What happens when the conservative movement turns on one of its own? Governor Newsom is joined by Ben Shapiro to dissect a wide range of topics including Trump's economic failures, the importance of immigration, and how free elections are in fact in danger. Plus they debate Middle East politics, how to solve the housing crisis and whether it's possible to find common ground with those you disagree with. 

00:00 Intro

00:36 Ben Shapiro Is California Raised

5:25 Law vs. Politics

7:00 How Bullying Shaped Ben

11:26 Breitbart, Bannon & The Birth of A Right Wing Media Empire

19:02 Are Podcasts' Influence Overrated?

22:06 ICE in California, The Importance of Immigrants & The Benefits of Sanctuary Policies

30:01 Solving The Housing Crisis & Fighting Crony Capitalism

38:47 California vs. Red States

42:51 Did Ben Actually Support Prop 50

47:33 Is Donald Trump Trying To Kill Free Elections?

54:32 TPUSA's America Fest Speech, Candace Owens & The Right Wing Influencer Scene

1:00:50 Shapiro's Relationships With Charlie Kirk & Tucker Carlson

1:03:04 Grievance Based Politics & False Nostalgia

1:08:50 Trump's Economic Troubles, The Affordability Crisis and The Tariff Failure

1:17:06 Shapiro's Justification of Trump's Foreign Policy & The Greenland Question

1:19:49 Trump's Interference With The Fed

1:21:05 Israel, Hamas, The Devastation In Gaza, & Criticisms of Bibi Netanyahu

1:30:30 Gender Affirming Care Under Trump & The Right's Weaponization of LGBTQIA Rights

1:41:08 Is Trump The Scavenger in Ben's Book?

1:45:28 Rapid Fire: Midterm Predictions, Healthcare Subsidies, Vance vs, Rubio, Bondi's Exit 

 

 

 

Email: TIGNPod@gmail.com 

Young Man in a Hurry by Gavin Newsom, out February 2026. Pre-order your copy: https://linktr.ee/govgavinnewsom 

What happens when the conservative movement turns on one of its own? Governor Newsom is joined by Ben Shapiro to dissect a wide range of topics including Trump's economic failures, the importance of immigration, and how free elections are in fact in danger. Plus they debate Middle East politics, how to solve the housing crisis and whether it's possible to find common ground with those you disagree with.&nbsp;
00:00 Intro
00:36 Ben Shapiro Is California Raised
5:25 Law vs. Politics
7:00 How Bullying Shaped Ben
11:26 Breitbart, Bannon &amp; The Birth of A Right Wing Media Empire
19:02 Are Podcasts' Influence Overrated?
22:06 ICE in California, The Importance of Immigrants &amp; The Benefits of Sanctuary Policies
30:01 Solving The Housing Crisis &amp; Fighting Crony Capitalism
38:47 California vs. Red States
42:51 Did Ben Actually Support Prop 50
47:33 Is Donald Trump Trying To Kill Free Elections?
54:32 TPUSA's America Fest Speech, Candace Owens &amp; The Right Wing Influencer Scene
1:00:50 Shapiro's Relationships With Charlie Kirk &amp; Tucker Carlson
1:03:04 Grievance Based Politics &amp; False Nostalgia
1:08:50 Trump's Economic Troubles, The Affordability Crisis and The Tariff Failure
1:17:06 Shapiro's Justification of Trump's Foreign Policy &amp; The Greenland Question
1:19:49 Trump's Interference With The Fed
1:21:05 Israel, Hamas, The Devastation In Gaza, &amp; Criticisms of Bibi Netanyahu
1:30:30 Gender Affirming Care Under Trump &amp; The Right's Weaponization of LGBTQIA Rights
1:41:08 Is Trump The Scavenger in Ben's Book?
1:45:28 Rapid Fire: Midterm Predictions, Healthcare Subsidies, Vance vs, Rubio, Bondi's Exit&nbsp;
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Email:&nbsp;<a href="mailto:TIGNPod@gmail.com">TIGNPod@gmail.com</a>&nbsp;
Young Man in a Hurry by Gavin Newsom, out February 2026. Pre-order your copy: <a href="https://linktr.ee/govgavinnewsom">https://linktr.ee/govgavinnewsom</a>&nbsp;

I’m Gavin Newsom.

And, it’s time to have a conversation. It’s time to have honest discussions with people that agree AND disagree with us.

It's time to answer the hard questions and be open to criticism, and debate without demeaning or dehumanizing one other.

I will be doing just that on my new podcast – inviting people on who I deeply disagree with to talk about the most pressing issues of the day and inviting listeners from around the country to join the conversation.

THIS is Gavin Newsom.

I&rsquo;m Gavin Newsom.
And, it&rsquo;s time to have a conversation. It&rsquo;s time to have honest discussions with people that agree AND disagree with us.
It's time to answer the hard questions and be open to criticism, and debate without demeaning or dehumanizing one other.
I will be doing just that on my new podcast &ndash; inviting people on who I deeply disagree with to talk about the most pressing issues of the day and inviting listeners from around the country to join the conversation.
THIS is Gavin Newsom.

This is Gavin Newsom

And, This The Chaos Within The GOP Featuring Ben Shapiro 

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