Gavin sits down with 31-year-old conservative activist Charlie Kirk, founder and president of the right-wing student organization Turning Point USA.

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Gavin sits down with 31-year-old conservative activist Charlie Kirk, founder and president of the right-wing student organization Turning Point USA. IG: <a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.instagram.com%2Fgavinnewsom%2F%3Fhl%3Den&amp;data=05%7C02%7CEAllyn%40premierenetworks.com%7Cd8d3bc491edd4190548308dd5c6062dc%7C122a527e5b714eba878d9810b495b9e3%7C0%7C0%7C638768291240267378%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=3r004jIqxRdXrx28W0QsY78hK2O0hNm51NaMpmIy9Hc%3D&amp;reserved=0" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="434e58cf-f1cf-4730-a737-ae7ca27fabbd">@GavinNewsom</a> TikTok: <a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.tiktok.com%2F%40gavinnewsom%3Flang%3Den&amp;data=05%7C02%7CEAllyn%40premierenetworks.com%7Cd8d3bc491edd4190548308dd5c6062dc%7C122a527e5b714eba878d9810b495b9e3%7C0%7C0%7C638768291240283274%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=cgz8qkEBBBy9jDy%2FW3eYzLWsdMahFkaFIGvGsvbGgfk%3D&amp;reserved=0" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="90691bb5-2ba9-44d5-b1fd-a21a1cc9e9f3">@GavinNewsom</a>

I’m Gavin Newsom.

And, it’s time to have a conversation. It’s time to have honest discussions with people that agree AND disagree with us.

It's time to answer the hard questions and be open to criticism, and debate without demeaning or dehumanizing one other.

I will be doing just that on my new podcast – inviting people on who I deeply disagree with to talk about the most pressing issues of the day and inviting listeners from around the country to join the conversation.

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I&rsquo;m Gavin Newsom.
And, it&rsquo;s time to have a conversation. It&rsquo;s time to have honest discussions with people that agree AND disagree with us.
It's time to answer the hard questions and be open to criticism, and debate without demeaning or dehumanizing one other.
I will be doing just that on my new podcast &ndash; inviting people on who I deeply disagree with to talk about the most pressing issues of the day and inviting listeners from around the country to join the conversation.
THIS is Gavin Newsom.

This is Gavin Newsom

And, This Is Charlie Kirk

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Brandon Ewing aka Atrioc joins the show to talk with Gavin about gaming culture and whether violent video games lead to violent acts. Then they decide what it will take for Gen-Z to reject this administration, if a college degree is worth it, and whether online culture is a cause or symptom of the nihilism young people are feeling.

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(00:00) Intro

(2:56) The Alleged Link Between Violent Video Games And Violent Actions

(9:32) Gaming Culture For People Who Aren't In It

(14:50) The Rise & Fall of E-Sports

(21:12) Meme Culture & The Economy After Covid

(28:02) What It Takes For Gen-Z To Turn On Trump

(36:00) The Burden We're Placing On Young People Is Unsustainable

(39:57) Are College Degrees Worthless?

(45:55) Social Media Incentivizes Feeding Into Anger

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Brandon Ewing aka Atrioc joins the show to talk with Gavin about gaming culture and whether violent video games lead to violent acts. Then they decide what it will take for Gen-Z to reject this administration, if a college degree is worth it, and whether online culture is a cause or symptom of the nihilism young people are feeling. <a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fnext.frame.io%2Fshare%2F06e4072b-b280-4166-a9dc-f30f333d7a83%2Fview%2F776eed8d-b1b6-4b62-b37a-178c52278c0a&amp;data=05%7C02%7CLindsayHoffman%40iheartmedia.com%7C9389c80faa2e4f20609908ddfbf3af72%7C122a527e5b714eba878d9810b495b9e3%7C0%7C0%7C638943746256039961%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=UbEaaVyje8ybW7J65rjOGaTKjyQMAO5xawwDd1Ry1hk%3D&amp;reserved=0" data-auth="NotApplicable" data-linkindex="0"></a> SUBSCRIBE NOW: <a href="https://linktr.ee/govgavinnewsom">https://linktr.ee/govgavinnewsom</a>
 (00:00) Intro
(2:56) The Alleged Link Between Violent Video Games And Violent Actions
(9:32) Gaming Culture For People Who Aren't In It
(14:50) The Rise &amp; Fall of E-Sports
(21:12) Meme Culture &amp; The Economy After Covid
(28:02) What It Takes For Gen-Z To Turn On Trump
(36:00) The Burden We're Placing On Young People Is Unsustainable
(39:57) Are College Degrees Worthless?
(45:55) Social Media Incentivizes Feeding Into Anger IG: @ThisisGavinNewsom Email: <a href="mailto:TIGNPod@gmail.com" data-linkindex="2">TIGNPod@gmail.com</a> Substack: Gavinnewsom Phone: 855-6NEWSOM

Re-Release: And, This Is Gaming Culture & Gen-Z Nihilism With Content Creator Brandon _Atrio

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As the year comes to a close, the show looks back at some of the conversations that sparked debate, challenged assumptions, and cut across the political divide.

In this special end of year rewind episode, Governor Gavin Newsom revisits significant moments from his discussions with Charlie Kirk, Steve Bannon, Scott Galloway, Atrioc, and Ben Meiselas providing new context and commentary.


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New Book by Gavin Newsom: Young Man in a Hurry out February 2026. Pre-order your copy: https://linktr.ee/govgavinnewsom

As the year comes to a close, the show looks back at some of the conversations that sparked debate, challenged assumptions, and cut across the political divide.
In this special end of year rewind episode, Governor Gavin Newsom revisits significant moments from his discussions with Charlie Kirk, Steve Bannon, Scott Galloway, Atrioc, and Ben Meiselas providing new context and commentary. Email the show:&nbsp; <a href="mailto:TIGNPod@gmail.com">TIGNPod@gmail.com</a> New Book by Gavin Newsom: Young Man in a Hurry out February 2026.&nbsp;Pre-order your copy:&nbsp;<a href="https://linktr.ee/govgavinnewsom">https://linktr.ee/govgavinnewsom</a>

And, This Is A Look Back At The Biggest Moments of 2025 

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/4678a3ba-2065-497a-a5c7-b3b7008142b7/transcript

The Bulwark's Tim Miller joins the podcast to discuss being a leading figure in the Never Trump movement, the growth of The Bulwark and how Donald Trump is starting to make the mistake of a normal politician. Plus, Tim shares what it's like spending time with the Turning Point crowd and which Democrats could actually reach young men.


0:00 Intro
2:30 Miller's Media Diet
4:34 How Miller Came To Elevate The Bulwark
10:34 How To Understand The Trump Origin Story 
16:12 Who Really Benefits From Trump's Success
26:03 How Do Democrats Win Nationally
34:05 Did Covid Turn Democrats Into The Establishment?
40:59 Miller's Relationship With Charlie Kirk & Turning Point USA
46:17 The Left's Inability To Engage Young People
52:00 Is The Theo Von Voter Up For Grabs?

 

 

 

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The Bulwark's Tim Miller joins the podcast to discuss being a leading figure in the Never Trump movement, the growth of The Bulwark and how Donald Trump is starting to make the mistake of a normal politician. Plus, Tim shares what it's like spending time with the Turning Point crowd and which Democrats could actually reach young men. 0:00 Intro 2:30 Miller's Media Diet 4:34 How Miller Came To Elevate The Bulwark 10:34 How To Understand The Trump Origin Story&nbsp; 16:12 Who Really Benefits From Trump's Success 26:03 How Do Democrats Win Nationally 34:05 Did Covid Turn Democrats Into The Establishment? 40:59 Miller's Relationship With Charlie Kirk &amp; Turning Point USA 46:17 The Left's Inability To Engage Young People 52:00 Is The Theo Von Voter Up For Grabs?
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**BOOK ALERT** Preorder Young Man in a Hurry by Gavin Newsom, out February 2026.&nbsp;
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And, This Is How Trump Loses His Base with Tim Miller of The Bulwark

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/e10ae128-b2c2-409f-8d8f-b3b00183a3b0/transcript

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