Gavin sits down with 31-year-old conservative activist Charlie Kirk, founder and president of the right-wing student organization Turning Point USA.

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I’m Gavin Newsom.

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It's time to answer the hard questions and be open to criticism, and debate without demeaning or dehumanizing one other.

I will be doing just that on my new podcast – inviting people on who I deeply disagree with to talk about the most pressing issues of the day and inviting listeners from around the country to join the conversation.

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I&rsquo;m Gavin Newsom.
And, it&rsquo;s time to have a conversation. It&rsquo;s time to have honest discussions with people that agree AND disagree with us.
It's time to answer the hard questions and be open to criticism, and debate without demeaning or dehumanizing one other.
I will be doing just that on my new podcast &ndash; inviting people on who I deeply disagree with to talk about the most pressing issues of the day and inviting listeners from around the country to join the conversation.
THIS is Gavin Newsom.

This is Gavin Newsom

And, This Is Charlie Kirk

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/a56082e8-e050-49f4-bdd6-b2980047994b/transcript

What happens when the conservative movement turns on one of its own? Governor Newsom is joined by Ben Shapiro to dissect a wide range of topics including Trump's economic failures, the importance of immigration, and how free elections are in fact in danger. Plus they debate Middle East politics, how to solve the housing crisis and whether it's possible to find common ground with those you disagree with. 

00:00 Intro

00:36 Ben Shapiro Is California Raised

5:25 Law vs. Politics

7:00 How Bullying Shaped Ben

11:26 Breitbart, Bannon & The Birth of A Right Wing Media Empire

19:02 Are Podcasts' Influence Overrated?

22:06 ICE in California, The Importance of Immigrants & The Benefits of Sanctuary Policies

30:01 Solving The Housing Crisis & Fighting Crony Capitalism

38:47 California vs. Red States

42:51 Did Ben Actually Support Prop 50

47:33 Is Donald Trump Trying To Kill Free Elections?

54:32 TPUSA's America Fest Speech, Candace Owens & The Right Wing Influencer Scene

1:00:50 Shapiro's Relationships With Charlie Kirk & Tucker Carlson

1:03:04 Grievance Based Politics & False Nostalgia

1:08:50 Trump's Economic Troubles, The Affordability Crisis and The Tariff Failure

1:17:06 Shapiro's Justification of Trump's Foreign Policy & The Greenland Question

1:19:49 Trump's Interference With The Fed

1:21:05 Israel, Hamas, The Devastation In Gaza, & Criticisms of Bibi Netanyahu

1:30:30 Gender Affirming Care Under Trump & The Right's Weaponization of LGBTQIA Rights

1:41:08 Is Trump The Scavenger in Ben's Book?

1:45:28 Rapid Fire: Midterm Predictions, Healthcare Subsidies, Vance vs, Rubio, Bondi's Exit 

 

 

 

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Young Man in a Hurry by Gavin Newsom, out February 2026. Pre-order your copy: https://linktr.ee/govgavinnewsom 

What happens when the conservative movement turns on one of its own? Governor Newsom is joined by Ben Shapiro to dissect a wide range of topics including Trump's economic failures, the importance of immigration, and how free elections are in fact in danger. Plus they debate Middle East politics, how to solve the housing crisis and whether it's possible to find common ground with those you disagree with.&nbsp;
00:00 Intro
00:36 Ben Shapiro Is California Raised
5:25 Law vs. Politics
7:00 How Bullying Shaped Ben
11:26 Breitbart, Bannon &amp; The Birth of A Right Wing Media Empire
19:02 Are Podcasts' Influence Overrated?
22:06 ICE in California, The Importance of Immigrants &amp; The Benefits of Sanctuary Policies
30:01 Solving The Housing Crisis &amp; Fighting Crony Capitalism
38:47 California vs. Red States
42:51 Did Ben Actually Support Prop 50
47:33 Is Donald Trump Trying To Kill Free Elections?
54:32 TPUSA's America Fest Speech, Candace Owens &amp; The Right Wing Influencer Scene
1:00:50 Shapiro's Relationships With Charlie Kirk &amp; Tucker Carlson
1:03:04 Grievance Based Politics &amp; False Nostalgia
1:08:50 Trump's Economic Troubles, The Affordability Crisis and The Tariff Failure
1:17:06 Shapiro's Justification of Trump's Foreign Policy &amp; The Greenland Question
1:19:49 Trump's Interference With The Fed
1:21:05 Israel, Hamas, The Devastation In Gaza, &amp; Criticisms of Bibi Netanyahu
1:30:30 Gender Affirming Care Under Trump &amp; The Right's Weaponization of LGBTQIA Rights
1:41:08 Is Trump The Scavenger in Ben's Book?
1:45:28 Rapid Fire: Midterm Predictions, Healthcare Subsidies, Vance vs, Rubio, Bondi's Exit&nbsp;
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Young Man in a Hurry by Gavin Newsom, out February 2026. Pre-order your copy: <a href="https://linktr.ee/govgavinnewsom">https://linktr.ee/govgavinnewsom</a>&nbsp;

And, This Is The Chaos Within The GOP Featuring Ben Shapiro 

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/9399e990-9377-4858-a09b-b3d30183c67f/transcript

Alex Wagner (Crooked Media) joins the show to talk about why legacy media is struggling, what stories will matter in 2026 and how Democrats can find their senses of humor. Plus, Alex shares why she'd love to get rid of the internet and why she refuses to become too negative.   


00:00 Celebrating New Years With A Cold Plunge

5:15 The Difference Between Crooked Media & Legacy Media

9:47 Can CBS News Win Over MAGA?

14:24 Is Profitability Killing Institutional Media?

 19:07 How The News Chooses What to Cover 

23:17 Do Podcasts Break Through The Noise?

31:30 Trump's Endurance

36:00 Why Are Democrats So Humorless?

 40:16 Is Media Consolidation And Democracy

 45:05 How You Become Alex Wagner

 55:23 The Stories We Should Be Focusing On In 2026

1:01:30 How Democrats Should Address Climate Issues?

1:09:16 Fighting Loneliness

1:17:13 What Makes Nihilism So Appealing For Young People?


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Alex Wagner (Crooked Media) joins the show to talk about why legacy media is struggling, what stories will matter in 2026 and how Democrats can find their senses of humor. Plus, Alex shares why she'd love to get rid of the internet and why she refuses to become too negative. &nbsp;&nbsp; 00:00 Celebrating New Years With A Cold Plunge
5:15 The Difference Between Crooked Media &amp; Legacy Media
9:47 Can CBS News Win Over MAGA?
14:24 Is Profitability Killing Institutional Media?
&nbsp;19:07 How The News Chooses What to Cover&nbsp;
23:17 Do Podcasts Break Through The Noise?
31:30 Trump's Endurance
36:00 Why Are Democrats So Humorless?
&nbsp;40:16 Is Media Consolidation And Democracy
&nbsp;45:05 How You Become Alex Wagner
&nbsp;55:23 The Stories We Should Be Focusing On In 2026
1:01:30 How Democrats Should Address Climate Issues?
1:09:16 Fighting Loneliness
1:17:13 What Makes Nihilism So Appealing For Young People? SUBSCRIBE NOW: <a href="https://linktr.ee/govgavinnewsom">https://linktr.ee/govgavinnewsom</a>
&nbsp;Email: TIGNPod@gmail.com Substack: Gavinnewsom

And, This Is How The Media Is Failing Us In 2026 With Alex Wagner 

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/9d0f47ed-5cf7-4290-8ee4-b3cc014ac318/transcript

Brandon Ewing aka Atrioc joins the show to talk with Gavin about gaming culture and whether violent video games lead to violent acts. Then they decide what it will take for Gen-Z to reject this administration, if a college degree is worth it, and whether online culture is a cause or symptom of the nihilism young people are feeling.

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(00:00) Intro

(2:56) The Alleged Link Between Violent Video Games And Violent Actions

(9:32) Gaming Culture For People Who Aren't In It

(14:50) The Rise & Fall of E-Sports

(21:12) Meme Culture & The Economy After Covid

(28:02) What It Takes For Gen-Z To Turn On Trump

(36:00) The Burden We're Placing On Young People Is Unsustainable

(39:57) Are College Degrees Worthless?

(45:55) Social Media Incentivizes Feeding Into Anger

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Brandon Ewing aka Atrioc joins the show to talk with Gavin about gaming culture and whether violent video games lead to violent acts. Then they decide what it will take for Gen-Z to reject this administration, if a college degree is worth it, and whether online culture is a cause or symptom of the nihilism young people are feeling. <a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fnext.frame.io%2Fshare%2F06e4072b-b280-4166-a9dc-f30f333d7a83%2Fview%2F776eed8d-b1b6-4b62-b37a-178c52278c0a&amp;data=05%7C02%7CLindsayHoffman%40iheartmedia.com%7C9389c80faa2e4f20609908ddfbf3af72%7C122a527e5b714eba878d9810b495b9e3%7C0%7C0%7C638943746256039961%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=UbEaaVyje8ybW7J65rjOGaTKjyQMAO5xawwDd1Ry1hk%3D&amp;reserved=0" data-auth="NotApplicable" data-linkindex="0"></a> SUBSCRIBE NOW: <a href="https://linktr.ee/govgavinnewsom">https://linktr.ee/govgavinnewsom</a>
 (00:00) Intro
(2:56) The Alleged Link Between Violent Video Games And Violent Actions
(9:32) Gaming Culture For People Who Aren't In It
(14:50) The Rise &amp; Fall of E-Sports
(21:12) Meme Culture &amp; The Economy After Covid
(28:02) What It Takes For Gen-Z To Turn On Trump
(36:00) The Burden We're Placing On Young People Is Unsustainable
(39:57) Are College Degrees Worthless?
(45:55) Social Media Incentivizes Feeding Into Anger IG: @ThisisGavinNewsom Email: <a href="mailto:TIGNPod@gmail.com" data-linkindex="2">TIGNPod@gmail.com</a> Substack: Gavinnewsom Phone: 855-6NEWSOM

Re-Release: And, This Is Gaming Culture & Gen-Z Nihilism With Content Creator Brandon _Atrio

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/01c971ab-7481-495d-aeb0-b3b701175819/transcript

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