Gavin sits down with 31-year-old conservative activist Charlie Kirk, founder and president of the right-wing student organization Turning Point USA.

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I’m Gavin Newsom.

And, it’s time to have a conversation. It’s time to have honest discussions with people that agree AND disagree with us.

It's time to answer the hard questions and be open to criticism, and debate without demeaning or dehumanizing one other.

I will be doing just that on my new podcast – inviting people on who I deeply disagree with to talk about the most pressing issues of the day and inviting listeners from around the country to join the conversation.

THIS is Gavin Newsom.

I&rsquo;m Gavin Newsom.
And, it&rsquo;s time to have a conversation. It&rsquo;s time to have honest discussions with people that agree AND disagree with us.
It's time to answer the hard questions and be open to criticism, and debate without demeaning or dehumanizing one other.
I will be doing just that on my new podcast &ndash; inviting people on who I deeply disagree with to talk about the most pressing issues of the day and inviting listeners from around the country to join the conversation.
THIS is Gavin Newsom.

This is Gavin Newsom

And, This Is Charlie Kirk

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At 40, Deb Haaland was a single mom raising her daughter on WIC, Medicaid, and food stamps, and she once broke down in tears when she was told she didn’t qualify for emergency SNAP. Now, days before Election Day, she joins the show to explain why that experience shapes how she’d govern New Mexico.

With early voting underway in the New Mexico governor race, Haaland lays out her closing argument: governors are the first line of defense against the Medicaid cuts and SNAP cuts coming from H.R. 1, the “One Big Beautiful Bill.” 

She explains her plan for a day-one data center moratorium, with guardrails on water, clean energy, local hiring, and no NDAs. She also makes the case for protecting New Mexico’s first-in-the-nation universal childcare program.

Learn more at debhaaland.com

00:00 Intro
00:38 Back to school at 40
02:07 Closing argument: the first line of defense
03:23 Medicaid and SNAP cuts from the “Big Beautiful Bill”
05:43 Gas prices in an oil state
08:16 Should New Mexico suspend the gas tax?
10:05 WIC, Medicaid, food stamps: her single-mom story
16:31 “Two jobs and a GoFundMe”
17:39 Trades, apprenticeships, and 58,000 homes
21:44 Public lands, Chaco, and lawsuits
24:27 The five bills Trump signed
26:30 The day-one data center moratorium
31:06 The Biden record
34:37 Water and the Colorado River
37:41 ICE and immigration
42:12 Public safety, fentanyl, and recovery
46:06 Following Lujan Grisham
51:13 Get out the vote

At 40, Deb Haaland was a single mom raising her daughter on WIC, Medicaid, and food stamps, and she once broke down in tears when she was told she didn&rsquo;t qualify for emergency SNAP. Now, days before Election Day, she joins the show to explain why that experience shapes how she&rsquo;d govern New Mexico.
With early voting underway in the New Mexico governor race, Haaland lays out her closing argument: governors are the first line of defense against the Medicaid cuts and SNAP cuts coming from H.R. 1, the &ldquo;One Big Beautiful Bill.&rdquo;&nbsp;
She explains her plan for a day-one data center moratorium, with guardrails on water, clean energy, local hiring, and no NDAs. She also makes the case for protecting New Mexico&rsquo;s first-in-the-nation universal childcare program.
Learn more at <a href="http://debhaaland.com">debhaaland.com</a>
00:00 Intro 00:38 Back to school at 40 02:07 Closing argument: the first line of defense 03:23 Medicaid and SNAP cuts from the &ldquo;Big Beautiful Bill&rdquo; 05:43 Gas prices in an oil state 08:16 Should New Mexico suspend the gas tax? 10:05 WIC, Medicaid, food stamps: her single-mom story 16:31 &ldquo;Two jobs and a GoFundMe&rdquo; 17:39 Trades, apprenticeships, and 58,000 homes 21:44 Public lands, Chaco, and lawsuits 24:27 The five bills Trump signed 26:30 The day-one data center moratorium 31:06 The Biden record 34:37 Water and the Colorado River 37:41 ICE and immigration 42:12 Public safety, fentanyl, and recovery 46:06 Following Lujan Grisham 51:13 Get out the vote

And, This Is The Woman To Lead New Mexico With Deb Haaland

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/b05cb2a6-1c2d-4a3c-84b0-b4f2006242b5/transcript

Oscar-winning documentarian, Alex Gibney joins the show to discuss Musk his newest investigation into the world's most powerful man, and possibly America’s number one grifter, Elon Musk.

Gibney shares his expertise on Musk’s early days in Silicon Valley, how he has been reliant on the US government he now hates for most of his wealth, and why the world’s richest man's biggest export is overpromising and underdelivering.

They detail Musk’s exploits at Tesla, SpaceX, and DOGE and why he might be the man we should be most afraid of.


00:00 How To Capture Elon Musk When He Won't Be Part Of Your Film
9:59 Failing Upward and  Who Really Founded Tesla
15:16 Government To The Rescue
20:03 The World’s Greatest Salesman: Autopilot issues, Battery Swaps and Tax Credits
28:22 Musk’s AI Origin Story
35:35 How COVID Changed Musk Forever
41:10 Buying Twitter: From Free Speech to Propaganda Machine
51:56 DOGE: Trump, the Chainsaw and the Data Grab
1:01:22 Musk’s Family Dynamics
1:13:27 The Midterms and Power Without Purpose

Oscar-winning documentarian, Alex Gibney joins the show to discuss Musk his newest investigation into the world's most powerful man, and possibly America&rsquo;s number one grifter, Elon Musk.
Gibney shares his expertise on Musk&rsquo;s early days in Silicon Valley, how he has been reliant on the US government he now hates for most of his wealth, and why the world&rsquo;s richest man's biggest export is overpromising and underdelivering. They detail Musk&rsquo;s exploits at Tesla, SpaceX, and DOGE and why he might be the man we should be most afraid of. 00:00 How To Capture Elon Musk When He Won't Be Part Of Your Film 9:59 Failing Upward and &nbsp;Who Really Founded Tesla 15:16 Government To The Rescue 20:03 The World&rsquo;s Greatest Salesman: Autopilot issues, Battery Swaps and Tax Credits 28:22 Musk&rsquo;s AI Origin Story 35:35 How COVID Changed Musk Forever 41:10 Buying Twitter: From Free Speech to Propaganda Machine 51:56 DOGE: Trump, the Chainsaw and the Data Grab 1:01:22 Musk&rsquo;s Family Dynamics 1:13:27 The Midterms and Power Without Purpose

And, This is The World's Most Powerful Man With Musk Director Alex Gibney

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Axios co-founder and CEO Jim VandeHei joins the show to talk through how AI is changing the media industry, why he rejects the simple solutions floated by today’s politicians and how he’d handle saving legacy media institutions. 

He then shares his philosophy on how to manage one’s time and business effectively as articulated in his new book book Simplify: Do 50 Percent More with 50 Percent Less co-written with his Axios co-founders, Mike Allen & Roy Schwartz

00:00 An Era As Significant As The Great Depression
2:46 Trust Loss In Institutions 
6:09 The Challenge Of Breaking News In An AI World 
11:42 How To Fix  Business Leaders Selling Out 
16:57 How Algorithms Shape Our Thinking
19:22 The Competing Incentives Between LLMs & Algorithms 
22:00 Can We Shut Down AI Even If We Wanted To
25:06 How Axios Rejects The AI Binary
35:05 The Future Of Work 
39:32 Working With OpenAi & Local News 
43:36 Legacy Media vs. Digital Journalists
48:42 You Don't Have To Do It - An Operating Manual For Life 
55:35 Our Brains & Businesses Need To Adapt To Technology’s Influence 
1:01:16 How To Be An Effective Manager & Employee in 2026
1:04:39 The One Trick To Being An Effective Communicator 
1:09:27 How to Fix CNN & Cable News

Axios co-founder and CEO Jim VandeHei joins the show to talk through how AI is changing the media industry, why he rejects the simple solutions floated by today&rsquo;s politicians and how he&rsquo;d handle saving legacy media institutions. He then shares his philosophy on how to manage one&rsquo;s time and business effectively as articulated in his new book book Simplify: Do 50 Percent More with 50 Percent Less&nbsp;co-written with his Axios co-founders, Mike Allen &amp; Roy Schwartz 00:00 An Era As Significant As The Great Depression 2:46 Trust Loss In Institutions&nbsp; 6:09 The Challenge Of Breaking News In An AI World&nbsp; 11:42 How To Fix &nbsp;Business Leaders Selling Out&nbsp; 16:57 How Algorithms Shape Our Thinking 19:22 The Competing Incentives Between LLMs &amp; Algorithms&nbsp; 22:00 Can We Shut Down AI Even If We Wanted To 25:06 How Axios Rejects The AI Binary 35:05 The Future Of Work&nbsp; 39:32 Working With OpenAi &amp; Local News&nbsp; 43:36 Legacy Media vs. Digital Journalists 48:42 You Don't Have To Do It - An Operating Manual For Life&nbsp; 55:35 Our Brains &amp; Businesses Need To Adapt To Technology&rsquo;s Influence&nbsp; 1:01:16 How To Be An Effective Manager &amp; Employee in 2026 1:04:39 The One Trick To Being An Effective Communicator&nbsp; 1:09:27 How to Fix CNN &amp; Cable News

And, This Is How To Build A Better Media Business With Axios’s Jim VandeHei

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