Independent journalist Aaron Parnas and Governor Newsom discuss the Trump administration’s push toward a constitutional crisis and the protests this past weekend.
 
Note: This conversation was recorded prior to the federal appeals court hearings on 6/17.

Independent journalist Aaron Parnas and Governor Newsom discuss the Trump administration&rsquo;s push toward a constitutional crisis and the protests this past weekend. &nbsp; Note: This conversation was recorded prior to the federal appeals court hearings on 6/17.

I’m Gavin Newsom.

And, it’s time to have a conversation. It’s time to have honest discussions with people that agree AND disagree with us.

It's time to answer the hard questions and be open to criticism, and debate without demeaning or dehumanizing one other.

I will be doing just that on my new podcast – inviting people on who I deeply disagree with to talk about the most pressing issues of the day and inviting listeners from around the country to join the conversation.

THIS is Gavin Newsom.

I&rsquo;m Gavin Newsom.
And, it&rsquo;s time to have a conversation. It&rsquo;s time to have honest discussions with people that agree AND disagree with us.
It's time to answer the hard questions and be open to criticism, and debate without demeaning or dehumanizing one other.
I will be doing just that on my new podcast &ndash; inviting people on who I deeply disagree with to talk about the most pressing issues of the day and inviting listeners from around the country to join the conversation.
THIS is Gavin Newsom.

This is Gavin Newsom

And, This is Aaron Parnas (Live on Substack!)

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/eba7c3b3-ed2f-4f60-9c99-b3010016cf2a/transcript

Congressman Jim Clyburn joins the podcast to reflect on the legacy of Jesse Jackson, his deep friendship with John Lewis, and how Democrats can speak to Black voters. Plus, he describes how today’s battles over voter ID laws and DEI are shaped by the battles fought during Reconstruction and the Jim Crow Era.

00:00: Intro

3:08 The Legacy of Jesse Jackson

4:55 Civil Disobedience, Faith and How Clyburn Met His Wife

12:48 The Phone Call That Changed The 1960 Election

16:21 Jim Clyburn And John Lewis’s Special Relationship

 23:29 I Didn’t Get Enough Votes

 29:08 “You Only Focus On Black People”

 35:38 The Reconstruction To Jim Crow Pipeline

41:44 Voter ID & Where MAGA Got Their Playbook

 47:52 The First Amendment, Democracy & The Attack on DEI

 54:15 - How The Democrats Regain Black Voters

 

Email: TIGNPod@gmail.com Young Man in a Hurry by Gavin Newsom, out February 2026. Get your copy: https://youngmaninahurrybook.com

The First Eight: A Personal History of the Pioneering Black Congressmen Who Shaped a Nation by Jim Clyburn available here:https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/jim-clyburn/the-first-eight/9780316572743/



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Congressman Jim Clyburn joins the podcast to reflect on the legacy of Jesse Jackson, his deep friendship with John Lewis, and how Democrats can speak to Black voters. Plus, he describes how today&rsquo;s battles over voter ID laws and DEI are shaped by the battles fought during Reconstruction and the Jim Crow Era.
00:00: Intro
3:08 The Legacy of Jesse Jackson
4:55 Civil Disobedience, Faith and How Clyburn Met His Wife
12:48 The Phone Call That Changed The 1960 Election
16:21 Jim Clyburn And John Lewis&rsquo;s Special Relationship
&nbsp;23:29 I Didn&rsquo;t Get Enough Votes
&nbsp;29:08 &ldquo;You Only Focus On Black People&rdquo;
&nbsp;35:38 The Reconstruction To Jim Crow Pipeline
41:44 Voter ID &amp; Where MAGA Got Their Playbook
&nbsp;47:52 The First Amendment, Democracy &amp; The Attack on DEI
&nbsp;54:15 - How The Democrats Regain Black Voters
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Email: TIGNPod@gmail.com Young Man in a Hurry by Gavin Newsom, out February 2026. Get your copy: <a href="https://youngmaninahurrybook.com">https://youngmaninahurrybook.com</a>
The First Eight: A Personal History of the Pioneering Black Congressmen Who Shaped a Nation by Jim Clyburn available here:https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/jim-clyburn/the-first-eight/9780316572743/ 
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And, This Is Where MAGA Got Their Playbook With Congressman Jim Clyburn

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/e954cf50-b9b9-4a2f-ac7e-b3f6001ce638/transcript

Presidential historian and author Jon Meacham shares how the Founding Fathers knew that a President like Trump was always a possibility and the best ways to celebrate America's 250th birthday. Plus they discuss the Super Bowl, Biden's legacy and whether the midterms might be our last election.

00:00 Intro
0:30 The Super Bowl IS Political
5:51 Democracy Has Always Been Messy
8:22  What Meacham Got Wrong About Trump's Rise To Power
12:26 Headlines vs. Historical Fact
15:26 Republicans Wouldn't Elect Their Own Party
19:43 Is Today's Political Climate Unprecedented
26:27 Could Trump Be Right About Our Failing Institutions?
34:00 Looking Back On 250 Years of American Struggle
39:40 This Administration Is Rewriting American History In Real Time
45:40 Are We The People Doing Enough To Resist?
53:10 Biden's Legacy
57:07 Will Democracy Survive The Midterms?

 

 

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Young Man in a Hurry by Gavin Newsom, out February 2026. 
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American Struggle By Jon Meacham
Available February 17th 2026: https://rb.gy/m9nkkv

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Presidential historian and author Jon Meacham shares how the Founding Fathers knew that a President like Trump was always a possibility and the best ways to celebrate America's 250th birthday. Plus they discuss the Super Bowl, Biden's legacy and whether the midterms might be our last election.
00:00 Intro 0:30 The Super Bowl IS Political 5:51 Democracy Has Always Been Messy 8:22 &nbsp;What Meacham Got Wrong About Trump's Rise To Power 12:26 Headlines vs. Historical Fact 15:26 Republicans Wouldn't Elect Their Own Party 19:43 Is Today's Political Climate Unprecedented 26:27 Could Trump Be Right About Our Failing Institutions? 34:00 Looking Back On 250 Years of American Struggle 39:40 This Administration Is Rewriting American History In Real Time 45:40 Are We The People Doing Enough To Resist? 53:10 Biden's Legacy 57:07 Will Democracy Survive The Midterms?
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Email: TIGNPod@gmail.com
Young Man in a Hurry by Gavin Newsom, out February 2026.&nbsp; Pre-order your copy: https://linktr.ee/govgavinnewsom
 American Struggle By Jon Meacham Available February 17th 2026: https://rb.gy/m9nkkv
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And, This Is What The Founding Fathers Were Worried About With Jon Meacham

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/a522c237-e5e5-4ee3-bf41-b3ef017ba347/transcript

Keith Edwards joins the show to reflect on the events in Minnesota and how to find hope amidst the tragedy. Then they jump into Keith's personal journey from reality TV to shaping political discourse, the choice to have Ben Shapiro on the show, and whether Democrats should shut down the government over DHS funding.

 

00:00 New York Culture vs. D.C. Culture 
1:52 What We're Seeing in Minneapolis 
7:30 Running in 2028 On Accountability
10:10 Keith's Upbringing Makes This Surreal 
13:20 Processing Grief & Learning To Trust Ourselves
17:30 How Reality TV Helps Keith Cover Politics
24:10 Trump's Election & Prayer Changed Keith's Career
29:45 "We Actually Need Someone Who Knows What They're Doing"
33:00The Lincoln Project Or The Inspiration Was I Need Money 
38:20 Becoming An Intentional Content Creator 
49:18 What Breaks Through In A 2026 Political Environment? 
54:18 What's Wrong With The Liberal Side of YouTube?
59:10 Why We Had Ben Shapiro On The Show 
1:02:55 Does The Left Hurt Itself By Being Too Judgmental? 
1:08:10 Fixing The DNC's Social Media 
1:13:26 How Do Democrats Persuade People?


Email: TIGNPod@gmail.com

Young Man in a Hurry by Gavin Newsom, out February 2026. Pre-order your copy: https://linktr.ee/govgavinnewsom

Keith Edwards joins the show to reflect on the events in Minnesota and how to find hope amidst the tragedy. Then they jump into Keith's personal journey from reality TV to shaping political discourse, the choice to have Ben Shapiro on the show, and whether Democrats should shut down the government over DHS funding.
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00:00 New York Culture vs. D.C. Culture&nbsp; 1:52 What We're Seeing in Minneapolis&nbsp; 7:30 Running in 2028 On Accountability 10:10 Keith's Upbringing Makes This Surreal&nbsp; 13:20 Processing Grief &amp; Learning To Trust Ourselves 17:30 How Reality TV Helps Keith Cover Politics 24:10 Trump's Election &amp; Prayer Changed Keith's Career 29:45 "We Actually Need Someone Who Knows What They're Doing" 33:00The Lincoln Project Or The Inspiration Was I Need Money&nbsp; 38:20 Becoming An Intentional Content Creator&nbsp; 49:18 What Breaks Through In A 2026 Political Environment?&nbsp; 54:18 What's Wrong With The Liberal Side of YouTube? 59:10 Why We Had Ben Shapiro On The Show&nbsp; 1:02:55 Does The Left Hurt Itself By Being Too Judgmental?&nbsp; 1:08:10 Fixing The DNC's Social Media&nbsp; 1:13:26 How Do Democrats Persuade People?
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And, This Is A Country In Crisis With Keith Edwards

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/91e44fb2-5eec-49ec-a318-b3e101434916/transcript

And, This is Aaron Parnas (Live on Substack!)

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