Imagine being under the age of 5 and you've already been on more than 30 flights.

Sean and Josh Szeps are frequent flyers and so are their kids and they're not even two yet. So how do they manage to keep two babies entertained on long haul flights without losing your mind?

And it's every parent's nightmare...losing a child when you're on holidays. Andrew and Holly share the story of Vicky Hamilton-Ross whose nephew went missing at the beach in the UK.

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Your hosts are Holly Wainwright and Andrew Daddo

This podcast was produced by Luca Lavigne , Rachael Hart 

With special thanks to Sean Szeps & Vicky Hamilton-Ross

This Glorious Mess is a podcast by Mamamia. Explore more Mamamia podcasts: https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts

Imagine being under the age of 5 and you've already been on more than 30 flights.
Sean and Josh Szeps are frequent flyers and so are their kids and they're not even two yet. So how do they manage to keep two babies entertained on long haul flights without losing your mind?
And it's every parent's nightmare...losing a child when you're on holidays. Andrew and Holly share the story of Vicky Hamilton-Ross whose nephew went missing at the beach in the UK.
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Your hosts are <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/author/holly-wainwright/">Holly Wainwright</a> and <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/author/andrew-daddo/">Andrew Daddo</a>
This podcast was produced by <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/author/luca-lavigne/">Luca Lavigne</a>&nbsp;,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/author/rachaelhart/">Rachael Hart&nbsp;</a>
With special thanks to <a href="https://www.instagram.com/seanszeps/?hl=en">Sean Szeps</a> &amp; Vicky Hamilton-Ross
This Glorious Mess is a podcast by <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/">Mamamia</a>. Explore more <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts">Mamamia podcasts</a>: https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts

A weekly look at parenting as it truly is: confusing, exhausting, inspiring, funny, and full of surprises. Join Tegan Natoli and Libby Trickett every Monday as they discuss all the disasters and delights of parenting with a healthy dose of advice from our trusted experts.

A weekly look at parenting as it truly is: confusing, exhausting, inspiring, funny, and full of surprises. Join Tegan Natoli and Libby Trickett every Monday as they discuss all the disasters and delights of parenting with a healthy dose of advice from our trusted experts.

Imperfect stories from the frontlines of parenting.

This Glorious Mess

TRAVEL BONUS: Twin-Toddlers? 30 Flights? No Problem

With all the awful news over the weekend and the last few days, here at the mothers group in your ears, we wanted to help you find the tools to talk to your kids in age appropriate terms.

You can read Gen Muir’s article ‘How to talk to children of every age about the Westfield Bondi Junction attacks, according to a grief counsellor.’

If you or someone you know is in need of support contact help is available:
Lifeline 13 11 14
Beyond Blue 1300 22 4636
1800RESPECT  1800 737 732

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Host: Tegan Natoli & Libby Trickett

Producer: Grace Rouvray

Audio Producer: Leah Porges

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

With all the awful news over the weekend and the last few days, here at the mothers group in your ears, we wanted to help you find the tools to talk to your kids in age appropriate terms.
You can read Gen Muir’s article <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/how-to-talk-to-children-westfield-bondi-junction-attack/">‘How to talk to children of every age about the Westfield Bondi Junction attacks, according to a grief counsellor.’</a>
If you or someone you know is in need of support contact help is available: <a href="https://www.lifeline.org.au/?gad_source=1&amp;gclid=Cj0KCQjwlN6wBhCcARIsAKZvD5g_xb9MMAt9CLjxMl7D2mJwHQi1pd3OCfiNo43-lZG-Vu7le05jvqoaArtNEALw_wcB" data-stringify-link="https://www.lifeline.org.au/?gad_source=1&amp;gclid=Cj0KCQjwlN6wBhCcARIsAKZvD5g_xb9MMAt9CLjxMl7D2mJwHQi1pd3OCfiNo43-lZG-Vu7le05jvqoaArtNEALw_wcB" data-sk="tooltip_parent">Lifeline</a> 13 11 14 <a href="https://www.beyondblue.org.au/" data-stringify-link="https://www.beyondblue.org.au/" data-sk="tooltip_parent">Beyond Blue</a> 1300 22 4636 <a href="https://www.1800respect.org.au/" data-stringify-link="https://www.1800respect.org.au/" data-sk="tooltip_parent">1800RESPECT </a> 1800 737 732
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Host: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/tigga_natoli/?hl=en">Tegan Natoli</a> &amp; <a href="https://www.instagram.com/libby_trickett/">Libby Trickett</a> 
Producer: Grace Rouvray
Audio Producer: Leah Porges
Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

The News Is Terrible, Here Is How We’re Talking To Our Kids

Is the generation of cul de sac kids dying out? In this weeks episode Libby and Tegan discuss their free range childhoods and how its changed now they are parents. Asking the question, is the world changing or is the news just scarier?

Plus what age is too young for school camp and who should set the age rules? 

And in nails and fails Libby wants to social distance from her son, Tegan wins a raffle and they both discuss dates, prunes and all the things they do for their kids bowel movements. 

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CREDITS:

Host: Tegan Natoli & Libby Trickett

Producer: Talissa Bazaz 

Assistant Producer: Tahli Blackman

Audio Producer: Scott Stronach

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Is the generation of cul de sac kids dying out? In this weeks episode Libby and Tegan discuss their free range childhoods and how its changed now they are parents. Asking the question, is the world changing or is the news just scarier?
Plus what age is too young for school camp and who should set the age rules? 
And in nails and fails Libby wants to social distance from her son, Tegan wins a raffle and they both discuss dates, prunes and all the things they do for their kids bowel movements. 
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CREDITS:
Host: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/tigga_natoli/?hl=en">Tegan Natoli</a> &amp; <a href="https://www.instagram.com/libby_trickett/">Libby Trickett</a> 
Producer: Talissa Bazaz 
Assistant Producer: Tahli Blackman
Audio Producer: Scott Stronach
Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

“I Would Never Let My Kids Do What I Did Growing Up”

On todays very special episode Tegan & Libby sit down with podcast duo 'Sassy' Scott O'Halloran to hear the incredible story of how he became a father. 

Scott and his brother Luke rose to fame with hilarious prank videos during the pandemic and have turned their humour into a career. 

This episode Scott shares the story of how he and his partner Marcus navigated the world of surrogacy, a journey that took six years and cost half a million dollars. 

And Uncle Luke the biology nerd goes head to head with his brother to figure out who knows more about babies!

Want more from Luke & Scott? Click here. 

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CREDITS:

Host: Tegan Natoli & Libby Trickett

Guests: Scott O'Halloran and Luke O’Halloran from the Luke & Sassy Scott Podcast 

Producer: Talissa Bazaz 

Assistant Producer: Tahli Blackman

Audio Producer: Scott Stronach

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

On todays very special episode Tegan &amp; Libby sit down with podcast duo 'Sassy' Scott O'Halloran to hear the incredible story of how he became a father. Scott and his brother Luke rose to fame with hilarious prank videos during the pandemic and have turned their humour into a career. 
This episode Scott shares the story of how he and his partner Marcus navigated the world of surrogacy, a journey that took six years and cost half a million dollars. 
And Uncle Luke the biology nerd goes head to head with his brother to figure out who knows more about babies!
Want more from Luke &amp; Scott? <a href="https://linktr.ee/lukeandsassy">Click here. </a>
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CREDITS:
Host: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/tigga_natoli/?hl=en">Tegan Natoli</a> &amp; <a href="https://www.instagram.com/libby_trickett/">Libby Trickett</a> 
Guests: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/scottscotto/?hl=en">Scott O'Halloran</a> and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/lukeeohalloran/?hl=en">Luke O’Halloran </a>from the <a href="https://www.instagram.com/lukeandsassyscott/?hl=en">Luke &amp; Sassy Scott Podcast </a>
Producer: Talissa Bazaz 
Assistant Producer: Tahli Blackman
Audio Producer: Scott Stronach
Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

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