Welcome to This Glorious Mess Little Kids. A twice-weekly look at parenting as it really is. Confusing, exhausting, inspiring, funny, and full of surprises. So many surprises. 

Expanding your family can be a huge adjustment. 

If you get the chance to do it, you'll probably be asking yourself - how will I prepare baby number one? Will I need more in the bank? And how will I ever manage to find time to myself again?

Our guest today, Sarah Ockwell-Smith is a mum to four, parenting expert, psychologist and author, and she has written a book all about preparing for baby number two, The Second Baby Book. So if you're lucky enough to plan your babies or are worried about your expanding family, Sarah is here to help! 

And as always, we answer your listener dilemmas... how do I get my kids to settle at the same time? 

LINKS 

Sarah's book, Second Baby Book: how to cope with pregnancy number two and create a happy home for your firstborn and new arrival, is available now! 

CREDITS

Host: Leigh Campbell & Tegan Natoli

Guest: Sarah Ockwell - Smith

Producer: Elissa Ratliff & Mikayla Floriano

CONTACT US

Share your WTF moment by leaving us a message on 02 8999 9386.

Send us an email at tgm@mamamia.com.au

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Looking for other podcasts to listen to? You'll find all our Mamamia shows at https://mamamia.com.au/podcasts/

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Welcome to This Glorious Mess Little Kids. A twice-weekly look at parenting as it really is. Confusing, exhausting, inspiring, funny, and full of surprises. So many surprises.&nbsp;
Expanding your family can be a huge adjustment.&nbsp;
If you get the chance to do it, you'll probably be asking yourself - how will I prepare baby number one? Will I need more in the bank? And how will I ever manage to find time to myself again?
Our guest today, Sarah Ockwell-Smith is a mum to four, parenting expert, psychologist and author, and she has written a book all about preparing for baby number two, The Second Baby Book. So if you're lucky enough to plan your babies or are worried about your expanding family, Sarah is here to help!&nbsp;
And as always, we answer your listener dilemmas... how do I get my kids to settle at the same time?&nbsp;
LINKS&nbsp;
Sarah's book, <a href="https://sarahockwell-smith.com/sarahs-book-2/%20">Second Baby Book: how to cope with pregnancy number two and create a happy home for your firstborn and new arrival,</a>&nbsp;is available now!&nbsp;
CREDITS
Host: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/author/leigh-campbell/">L</a><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/author/leigh-campbell/">eig</a><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/author/leigh-campbell/">h Campbell</a> &amp; <a href="https://www.instagram.com/tigga_natoli/?hl=en">Tegan Natoli</a>
Guest: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/sarahockwellsmith/?hl=en">Sarah Ockwell - Smith</a>
Producer:&nbsp;Elissa Ratliff &amp; Mikayla Floriano
CONTACT US
Share your WTF moment by leaving us a message on 02 8999 9386.
Send us an email at tgm@mamamia.com.au
Looking for a community of like-minded parents?&nbsp; Join our Mamamia Parents Facebook Page... https://www.facebook.com/groups/1047713658714395/&nbsp;&nbsp;
Want a weekly parenting newsletter from Holly Wainwright?&nbsp; Sign up here... https://www.mamamia.com.au/newsletter/
Looking for other podcasts to listen to? You'll find all our Mamamia shows at&nbsp;<a href="https://mamamia.com.au/podcasts/">https://mamamia.com.au/podcasts/</a>
Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

A weekly look at parenting as it truly is: confusing, exhausting, inspiring, funny, and full of surprises. Join Tegan Natoli and Libby Trickett every Monday as they discuss all the disasters and delights of parenting with a healthy dose of advice from our trusted experts.

A weekly look at parenting as it truly is: confusing, exhausting, inspiring, funny, and full of surprises. Join Tegan Natoli and Libby Trickett every Monday as they discuss all the disasters and delights of parenting with a healthy dose of advice from our trusted experts.

Imperfect stories from the frontlines of parenting.

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