James and Richard sit down and discuss the results of the State of Theology Report. In this episode, they consider the statement: "God accepts the worship of all religions, including Christianity, Judaism, and Isalam." 56% of U.S. Evangelical respondents agreed with the statement in the 2022 report. Is the statement supported biblically? Find out in today's episode of Thinking Christian.

James and Richard sit down and discuss the results of the State of Theology Report. In this episode, they consider the statement: "God accepts the worship of all religions, including Christianity, Judaism, and Isalam." 56% of U.S. Evangelical respondents agreed with the statement in the 2022 report. Is the statement supported biblically? Find out in today's episode of Thinking Christian.

Christians shouldn’t just think. They should think Christian. Join Dr. James Spencer and guests for calm, thoughtful, theological discussions about a variety of topics Christians face every day. The Thinking Christian Podcast will help you grow spiritually and learn theology as you seek to be faithful in a world that is becoming increasingly proficient at telling stories that deny Christ.

Find more from James at https://www.thinkingchristian.org/.

Christians shouldn&rsquo;t just think. They should think Christian. Join Dr. James Spencer and guests for calm, thoughtful, theological discussions about a variety of topics Christians face every day. The Thinking Christian Podcast will help you grow spiritually and learn theology as you seek to be faithful in a world that is becoming increasingly proficient at telling stories that deny Christ.
Find more from James at <a href="https://www.thinkingchristian.org/">https://www.thinkingchristian.org/</a>.

Christians shouldn’t just think. They should think Christian. Join Dr. James Spencer and guests for calm, thoughtful, theological discussions about a variety of topics Christians face every day. The Thinking Christian Podcast will help you grow spiritually and learn theology as you seek to be faithful in a world that is becoming increasingly proficient at telling stories that deny Christ.

Thinking Christian: Clear Theology for a Confusing World

Christians shouldn&rsquo;t just think. They should think Christian. Join Dr. James Spencer and guests for calm, thoughtful, theological discussions about a variety of topics Christians face every day. The Thinking Christian Podcast will help you grow spiritually and learn theology as you seek to be faithful in a world that is becoming increasingly proficient at telling stories that deny Christ.
Find more from James at <a href="https://www.thinkingchristian.org/">https://www.thinkingchristian.org/</a>.

Does God Accept Worship from Other Religions?

Michael McDuffee — formerly professor of historical theology at Moody Bible Institute, now living in Germany — joins James Spencer and Ashish Varma for the seventh episode in the faith and politics series.

The conversation starts with an essay by Jürgen Habermas. Habermas, a lifelong child of the Enlightenment, found himself after 2001 asking whether reason alone could carry the weight of a public ethics, and began describing modern societies as post-secular. McDuffie uses that as a way into the collapse of secularization theory: the assumption that modernization would inevitably shrink religion turned out to describe Europe, not the world.

His sharper claim is that the secular was never a neutral condition but a strategy — a way of categorizing peoples and ideas that maintained a particular hegemony, and one whose vulnerability has opened room for voices it had kept out.

They apply this to America, which McDuffee argues was post-secular before the term existed. The last stretch takes on 1776 and 1619 together, arguing both frameworks share a blind spot, and ends on coveting, idolatry, and Francis of Assisi as a model for finding a voice.

Chapters:

00:00 Introductions

01:19 Habermas and an awareness of what is missing

06:21 Durkheim, France, and the durability of religion

08:38 Why secularization theory described Europe, not the world

11:43 Liberalism, neoliberalism, and the sovereign individual

17:47 Post-secular doesn't mean the secular is over

21:28 The secular as a deliberate strategy

25:00 From Hellenized being to deism to history to ideology

31:44 What post-secular opens up

37:31 Postmodernism gave voices the chops

45:50 A nation with the soul of a church

51:20 1776 and 1619 share a blind spot

57:17 Creation, not nature

1:00:27 Coveting, idolatry, and the inclusio of the Decalogue

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Michael McDuffee &mdash; formerly professor of historical theology at Moody Bible Institute, now living in Germany &mdash; joins James Spencer and Ashish Varma for the seventh episode in the faith and politics series.
The conversation starts with an essay by J&uuml;rgen Habermas. Habermas, a lifelong child of the Enlightenment, found himself after 2001 asking whether reason alone could carry the weight of a public ethics, and began describing modern societies as post-secular. McDuffie uses that as a way into the collapse of secularization theory: the assumption that modernization would inevitably shrink religion turned out to describe Europe, not the world.
His sharper claim is that the secular was never a neutral condition but a strategy &mdash; a way of categorizing peoples and ideas that maintained a particular hegemony, and one whose vulnerability has opened room for voices it had kept out.
They apply this to America, which McDuffee argues was post-secular before the term existed. The last stretch takes on 1776 and 1619 together, arguing both frameworks share a blind spot, and ends on coveting, idolatry, and Francis of Assisi as a model for finding a voice.
Chapters:
00:00 Introductions
01:19 Habermas and an awareness of what is missing
06:21 Durkheim, France, and the durability of religion
08:38 Why secularization theory described Europe, not the world
11:43 Liberalism, neoliberalism, and the sovereign individual
17:47 Post-secular doesn't mean the secular is over
21:28 The secular as a deliberate strategy
25:00 From Hellenized being to deism to history to ideology
31:44 What post-secular opens up
37:31 Postmodernism gave voices the chops
45:50 A nation with the soul of a church
51:20 1776 and 1619 share a blind spot
57:17 Creation, not nature
1:00:27 Coveting, idolatry, and the inclusio of the Decalogue
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The Secular Was a Strategy | Faith & Politics #7

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James Spencer and Ashish Varma debrief their conversation with William Cavanaugh, and work out what he was and wasn't saying.

They start with a tension: Cavanaugh sounded gentler in conversation than his books read, and both men try to account for it. The answer they land on has to do with audience — that Torture and Eucharist and Being Consumed are written to people who need to resist, while the broader project is aimed at those of us sitting near the center of a global economic order who don't notice we're being formed at all.

Much of the episode turns on Cavanaugh's remark that he couldn't answer a question about the midterms without sounding partisan. James and Ashish read that carefully: not as a coded endorsement, but as a recognition that theological convictions will sometimes land incidentally on one side of a two-party ballot without originating there.

From there they recover the older sense of politics — the life of the polis — through a piece of litter on the ground, a squirrel in the road, and Hebrews on efforts that matter without being ultimate.

Chapters:

00:00 Why he sounded softer than he reads

02:23 The nation state as an ideology, not a neutral container

04:33 Why Cavanaugh reaches for idolatry

07:14 Formation, identity, and voices from the periphery

10:16 "I'm not sure I can answer that without sounding partisan"

16:52 Incidental alignment isn't partisanship

20:52 Recovering the polis

26:26 The litter on the ground

29:35 Creation care and the squirrel in the road

36:00 Amazon, Target, and picking your poison

40:13 Politics as art rather than science

44:16 We don't fix the world; we live faithfully in it

48:15 The fall as an optimistic doctrine

51:04 Hebrews: effort that matters without being ultimate

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James Spencer and Ashish Varma debrief their conversation with William Cavanaugh, and work out what he was and wasn't saying.
They start with a tension: Cavanaugh sounded gentler in conversation than his books read, and both men try to account for it. The answer they land on has to do with audience &mdash; that Torture and Eucharist and Being Consumed are written to people who need to resist, while the broader project is aimed at those of us sitting near the center of a global economic order who don't notice we're being formed at all.
Much of the episode turns on Cavanaugh's remark that he couldn't answer a question about the midterms without sounding partisan. James and Ashish read that carefully: not as a coded endorsement, but as a recognition that theological convictions will sometimes land incidentally on one side of a two-party ballot without originating there.
From there they recover the older sense of politics &mdash; the life of the polis &mdash; through a piece of litter on the ground, a squirrel in the road, and Hebrews on efforts that matter without being ultimate.
Chapters:
00:00 Why he sounded softer than he reads
02:23 The nation state as an ideology, not a neutral container
04:33 Why Cavanaugh reaches for idolatry
07:14 Formation, identity, and voices from the periphery
10:16 "I'm not sure I can answer that without sounding partisan"
16:52 Incidental alignment isn't partisanship
20:52 Recovering the polis
26:26 The litter on the ground
29:35 Creation care and the squirrel in the road
36:00 Amazon, Target, and picking your poison
40:13 Politics as art rather than science
44:16 We don't fix the world; we live faithfully in it
48:15 The fall as an optimistic doctrine
51:04 Hebrews: effort that matters without being ultimate
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Politics as an Art, Not a Science | Faith & Politics #6

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William T. Cavanaugh — professor of Catholic studies at DePaul, director of the Center for World Catholicism and Intercultural Theology, and author of The Uses of Idolatry, Torture and Eucharist, Migrations of the Holy, and Being Consumed — joins James Spencer and Ashish Varma for the fifth episode in the faith and politics series.

Cavanaugh begins where politics itself begins: not with elections, but with how people organize a shared life. He traces how the sacred trappings once belonging to the church migrated to the modern state, and points to the Apotheosis of Washington on the Capitol dome as a reminder that ostensibly secular nations still deify.

Much of the conversation is about idolatry — why the word is worth recovering despite its colonial baggage, and what Latin American theologians saw when they applied it to economics rather than atheism. Cavanaugh works the argument through Amazon packages, cobalt mines, and Milton Friedman's definition of a free transaction, then answers the obvious objection about whether ordinary people can do anything at all.

He closes on why the pursuit of Christian political power keeps producing the opposite of what it promises, with Hungary as the case in point.

Chapters:

00:00 Welcome

01:24 Politics before it meant elections

03:38 Ecclesia: the church as a third thing

05:30 Migrations of the holy

08:25 The Apotheosis of Washington

09:12 We didn't have to end up here

11:30 Why the fall is an optimistic doctrine

14:58 Chile, Argentina, and the habits of a church

17:17 Kennedy's Pyrrhic victory

20:59 Why Christians think they need power

22:59 Recovering the word idolatry

27:08 Economics as theology

30:31 Amazon, cobalt, and what's invisible by design

34:51 If I don't buy the bananas, who eats?

41:06 Neither the status quo nor a treehouse

44:46 Mondragon and worker ownership

46:12 What you can actually do

48:12 A migrant ministry in Oak Park

51:13 Framing a midterm election

54:34 Hungary, Orbán, and what power costs the church

57:02 The churches everyone assumed were holding

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William T. Cavanaugh &mdash; professor of Catholic studies at DePaul, director of the Center for World Catholicism and Intercultural Theology, and author of The Uses of Idolatry, Torture and Eucharist, Migrations of the Holy, and Being Consumed &mdash; joins James Spencer and Ashish Varma for the fifth episode in the faith and politics series.
Cavanaugh begins where politics itself begins: not with elections, but with how people organize a shared life. He traces how the sacred trappings once belonging to the church migrated to the modern state, and points to the Apotheosis of Washington on the Capitol dome as a reminder that ostensibly secular nations still deify.
Much of the conversation is about idolatry &mdash; why the word is worth recovering despite its colonial baggage, and what Latin American theologians saw when they applied it to economics rather than atheism. Cavanaugh works the argument through Amazon packages, cobalt mines, and Milton Friedman's definition of a free transaction, then answers the obvious objection about whether ordinary people can do anything at all.
He closes on why the pursuit of Christian political power keeps producing the opposite of what it promises, with Hungary as the case in point.
Chapters:
00:00 Welcome
01:24 Politics before it meant elections
03:38 Ecclesia: the church as a third thing
05:30 Migrations of the holy
08:25 The Apotheosis of Washington
09:12 We didn't have to end up here
11:30 Why the fall is an optimistic doctrine
14:58 Chile, Argentina, and the habits of a church
17:17 Kennedy's Pyrrhic victory
20:59 Why Christians think they need power
22:59 Recovering the word idolatry
27:08 Economics as theology
30:31 Amazon, cobalt, and what's invisible by design
34:51 If I don't buy the bananas, who eats?
41:06 Neither the status quo nor a treehouse
44:46 Mondragon and worker ownership
46:12 What you can actually do
48:12 A migrant ministry in Oak Park
51:13 Framing a midterm election
54:34 Hungary, Orb&aacute;n, and what power costs the church
57:02 The churches everyone assumed were holding
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William Cavanaugh on Idolatry and Power | Faith & Politics #5

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