This is for the girlies who've found themselves in a touch of debt... but what if we told you that not all debt is actually bad?

This week on the pod, we've brought back Victoria Devine from Australia's number 1 money podcast, She's On The Money.

Vic's here to help us unpack the real reason so many of us get into debt, the girl-math trap, tips for hacking the credit card system, and how we can actually use debt to our advantage.

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Hosts: Emily Vernem & Bec Melrose

Guest: Victoria Devine

Producer: Cassie Merritt

Executive Producer: Tia Ucich & Gia Moylan

Audio Production: Scott Stronach

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