The Honorable Betsy DeVos, former U.S. Secretary of Education, sat down with Center for Christian Virtue (CCV) President Aaron Baer at the 2023 Celebration Gala in Columbus just a few weeks ago. Thanks to her leadership, we've seen dramatic school choice expansions over the last 20 years in Ohio, and now we could see the Backpack Bill–a universal education freedom initiative–enacted.

There have been few school choice leaders in the public square like The Honorable Betsy DeVos, so we wanted her keynote remarks and this conversation to be available on a special episode of The Narrative.

Before the interview, Aaron, Communications Director Mike Andrews, and Policy Director David Mahan unpack the SAFE Act, a bill to ban the experimental and dangerous practice of giving children puberty-blocking drugs and wrong-sex hormones for the purpose of “gender transitioning,” and why the opponent hearing this week was actually good for the bill's progress. They also honor Tim Keller and discuss the need for Christians to be engaged in culture and politics.

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The Honorable Betsy DeVos, former U.S. Secretary of Education, sat down with Center for Christian Virtue (CCV) President Aaron Baer at the 2023 Celebration Gala in Columbus just a few weeks ago. Thanks to her leadership, we've seen dramatic school choice expansions over the last 20 years in Ohio, and now we could see the <a href="BackpackBill.com">Backpack Bill</a>–a universal education freedom initiative–enacted.
There have been few school choice leaders in the public square like The Honorable Betsy DeVos, so we wanted her keynote remarks and this conversation to be available on a special episode of The Narrative.
Before the interview, Aaron, Communications Director Mike Andrews, and Policy Director David Mahan unpack the <a href="https://www.ccv.org/safeact">SAFE Act</a>, a bill to ban the experimental and dangerous practice of giving children puberty-blocking drugs and wrong-sex hormones for the purpose of “gender transitioning,” and why the opponent hearing this week was actually good for the bill's progress. They also honor Tim Keller and discuss the need for Christians to be engaged in culture and politics.
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The Hope for School Choice with The Honorable Betsy DeVos

In this episode of The Narrative, Aaron and Mike celebrate the success of the most recent Prayer at the Statehouse, which saw its largest turnout ever as hundreds gathered to fill the Ohio Statehouse with worship and prayer. The guys also discuss the importance of Christian engagement in all areas of life, from protecting the family to advocating for fair property tax policies that ensure the elderly are not forced out of their homes.

After the news, Aaron and Mike are joined by Dr. Fenggang Yang, a professor of sociology and director of the Center on Religion and the Global East at Purdue University. Yang provides a fascinating look at the "Triple Market" of religion in China. In a world dominated by a Communist regime that enforces "scientific atheism" and bans baptism for minors, Yang reveals how the underground "Grey Market" of Christianity is exploding. Discover how the Holy Spirit is outmaneuvering the Deep State of Beijing and why China is on a trajectory to become the largest Christian nation on the planet in our lifetime.

More about Dr. Fenggang Yang

Dr. Fenggang Yang is a Professor of Sociology and the Director of the Center on Religion and the Global East at Purdue University. He also holds the appointments of Courtesy Professor of Political Science and faculty affiliate with the Purdue Policy Research Institute, Asian Studies, and Religious Studies. Dr. Yang has served as President of the Society for the Scientific Study of Religion.

As a renowned expert in the sociology of religion, immigration, Asian Americans, and East Asian societies, Dr. Yang has delivered numerous invited lectures at prestigious universities and keynote speeches at professional associations across the US, Asia, and Europe. His insights have been featured in major media outlets, including The New York Times, The Washington Post, Los Angeles Times, USA Today, The Economist, NPR, CNN, BBC, and ABC.

Dr. Yang earned his B.A. in politics and education in 1982 and his M.A. in philosophy in 1987 in China before moving to the United States in 1989. He completed his Ph.D. in sociology at The Catholic University of America in 1997. He is the author of several influential books, including Chinese Christians in America: Conversion, Assimilation, and Adhesive Identities(Penn State 1999), Religion in China: Survival and Revival under Communist Rule (Oxford 2012), and Atlas of Religion in China: Social and Geographical Contexts (Brill 2018).

Additionally, he has co-edited over a dozen scholarly books. Two of his numerous articles have received distinguished article awards from professional associations.

Want to Go Deeper?

On Saturday, April 11, Center for Christian Virtue will host our 2026 Columbus Celebration Gala.

We're excited to welcome our keynote speaker, Scott Jennings, who is CNN's senior conservative voice and one of the sharpest commentators in the national spotlight. He's known for his clarity, conviction, and humor, and Scott brings decades of experience at the crossroads of politics and media, including serving in the George W. Bush White House and key roles in multiple presidential and Senate campaigns. 

It's going to be an elegant evening where you'll enjoy an incredible dinner followed by visionary keynotes exploring the path forward for the future of Ohio and America. 

Get your tickets or secure your table today at CCV.org/ColumbusGala.

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🔎 About The Narrative

The Narrative breaks away from the script to cut through the typical media narratives and helps you understand the root causes of today’s culture and political controversies.

Join Center for Christian Virtue (CCV) President Aaron Baer, Policy Director David Mahan, Communications Director Mike Andrews, and world-renowned experts as they dissect current issues and events from multiple angles and viewpoints, equipping you to be a critical thinker on some of the hottest topics today.

In this episode of The Narrative, Aaron and Mike celebrate the success of the most recent Prayer at the Statehouse, which saw its largest turnout ever as hundreds gathered to fill the Ohio Statehouse with worship and prayer. The guys also discuss the importance of Christian engagement in all areas of life, from protecting the family to advocating for fair property tax policies that ensure the elderly are not forced out of their homes.
After the news, Aaron and Mike are joined by Dr. Fenggang Yang, a professor of sociology and director of the Center on Religion and the Global East at Purdue University. Yang provides a fascinating look at the "Triple Market" of religion in China. In a world dominated by a Communist regime that enforces "scientific atheism" and bans baptism for minors, Yang reveals how the underground "Grey Market" of Christianity is exploding. Discover how the Holy Spirit is outmaneuvering the Deep State of Beijing and why China is on a trajectory to become the largest Christian nation on the planet in our lifetime.
More about Dr. Fenggang Yang
Dr. Fenggang Yang is a Professor of Sociology and the Director of the Center on Religion and the Global East at Purdue University. He also holds the appointments of Courtesy Professor of Political Science and faculty affiliate with the Purdue Policy Research Institute, Asian Studies, and Religious Studies. Dr. Yang has served as President of the Society for the Scientific Study of Religion.
As a renowned expert in the sociology of religion, immigration, Asian Americans, and East Asian societies, Dr. Yang has delivered numerous invited lectures at prestigious universities and keynote speeches at professional associations across the US, Asia, and Europe. His insights have been featured in major media outlets, including The New York Times, The Washington Post, Los Angeles Times, USA Today, The Economist, NPR, CNN, BBC, and ABC.
Dr. Yang earned his B.A. in politics and education in 1982 and his M.A. in philosophy in 1987 in China before moving to the United States in 1989. He completed his Ph.D. in sociology at The Catholic University of America in 1997. He is the author of several influential books, including&nbsp;Chinese Christians in America: Conversion, Assimilation, and Adhesive Identities(Penn State 1999), Religion in China: Survival and Revival under Communist Rule (Oxford 2012), and Atlas of Religion in China: Social and Geographical Contexts (Brill 2018).
Additionally, he has co-edited over a dozen scholarly books. Two of his numerous articles have received distinguished article awards from professional associations.
Want to Go Deeper?
On Saturday, April 11, Center for Christian Virtue will host our&nbsp;2026 Columbus Celebration Gala.
We're excited to welcome our keynote speaker, Scott Jennings, who is CNN's senior conservative voice and one of the sharpest commentators in the national spotlight. He's known for his clarity, conviction, and humor, and Scott brings decades of experience at the crossroads of politics and media, including serving in the George W. Bush White House and key roles in multiple presidential and Senate campaigns.&nbsp;
It's going to be an elegant evening where you'll enjoy an incredible dinner followed by visionary keynotes exploring the path forward for the future of Ohio and America.&nbsp;
Get your tickets or secure your table today at CCV.org/ColumbusGala.
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🔎 About&nbsp;The Narrative
The&nbsp;Narrative&nbsp;breaks away from the script to cut through the typical media narratives and helps you understand the root causes of today&rsquo;s culture and political controversies.
Join Center for Christian Virtue (CCV) President Aaron Baer, Policy Director David Mahan, Communications Director Mike Andrews, and world-renowned experts as they dissect current issues and events from multiple angles and viewpoints, equipping you to be a critical thinker on some of the hottest topics today.

The Rise of Christianity in China with Dr. Fenggang Yang

The world looks very different from the way it did just last week. In this episode of The Narrative, Aaron and Mike explore the decisive US strikes in Iran that successfully took out key leaders of the regime. The guys break down why a Commander-in-Chief must act on intelligence to protect our sovereignty; if you don’t project strength, you invite chaos.

They also celebrate that the Supreme Court recently stepped in to stop California schools from the heinous practice of transitioning children in secret. The Court made it clear that parents have the fundamental right to direct the upbringing and mental health of their own children, and that right is non-negotiable. 

Finally, Aaron, David, and Mike are joined by Mark Meckler, co-founder of Convention of States. With the national debt now soaring past $38 trillion, Mark explains why electing "better people" isn't enough to stop the administrative state. Discover the Article V strategy to impose term limits on the Deep State and fiscal restraints on DC. Ohio is a "watershed" state in this fight, and Mark shares the roadmap for how we can finally restrain a federal government that has grown far beyond its constitutional boundaries.

More about Mark Meckler

Mark Meckler is the co-founder of Convention of States (COS) and a leading authority on grassroots mobilization. A former attorney and tech entrepreneur, Mark applied his business expertise to help found the Tea Party Patriots before realizing that electing "better people" wasn't enough to fix a broken Washington. 

A committed Christian and advocate for traditional family values, Mark’s worldview is grounded in the belief that the administrative state is a structural threat to American sovereignty. His experience ranges from serving as the interim CEO of Parler to starting and selling multiple businesses in retail, restaurants, manufacturing, network marketing, technology, and consulting along with his wife of 31 years, Patty.

Want to Go Deeper?

On Saturday, April 11, Center for Christian Virtue will host our 2026 Columbus Celebration Gala.

We're excited to welcome our keynote speaker, Scott Jennings, who is CNN's senior conservative voice and one of the sharpest commentators in the national spotlight. He's known for his clarity, conviction, and humor, and Scott brings decades of experience at the crossroads of politics and media, including serving in the George W. Bush White House and key roles in multiple presidential and Senate campaigns. 

It's going to be an elegant evening where you'll enjoy an incredible dinner followed by visionary keynotes exploring the path forward for the future of Ohio and America. 

Secure your table today at CCV.org/ColumbusGala.

📢 Talk to Us

We want to hear from you! As a valued listener, your feedback is critical for us to keep The Narrative insightful, relevant, and helpful. If you have a particular guest, topic, or question you'd like us to cover, let us know! We’ll answer your questions on an “Ask Us Anything” episode later, so send in your questions now.

👉  Leave us a voicemail or text at 614-769-7077.

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To learn more about Center for Christian Virtue and to get involved, visit CCV.org.

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If you've found any episode of The Narrative insightful, let us know by leaving a review or rating! It helps us to know what you're enjoying and brings the podcast to other listeners, meaning you're helping equip your neighbors to understand today's hottest cultural and political topics. So, thank you!

🔎 About The Narrative

The Narrative breaks away from the script to cut through the typical media narratives and helps you understand the root causes of today’s culture and political controversies.

Join Center for Christian Virtue (CCV) President Aaron Baer, Policy Director David Mahan, Communications Director Mike Andrews, and world-renowned experts as they dissect current issues and events from multiple angles and viewpoints, equipping you to be a critical thinker on some of the hottest topics today.

The world looks very different from the way it did just last week. In this episode of The Narrative, Aaron and Mike explore the decisive US strikes in Iran that successfully took out key leaders of the regime. The guys break down why a Commander-in-Chief must act on intelligence to protect our sovereignty; if you don&rsquo;t project strength, you invite chaos.
They also celebrate that the Supreme Court recently stepped in to stop California schools from the heinous practice of transitioning children in secret. The Court made it clear that parents have the fundamental right to direct the upbringing and mental health of their own children, and that right is non-negotiable.&nbsp;
Finally, Aaron, David, and Mike are joined by Mark Meckler, co-founder of Convention of States. With the national debt now soaring past $38 trillion, Mark explains why electing "better people" isn't enough to stop the administrative state. Discover the Article V strategy to impose term limits on the Deep State and fiscal restraints on DC. Ohio is a "watershed" state in this fight, and Mark shares the roadmap for how we can finally restrain a federal government that has grown far beyond its constitutional boundaries.
More about Mark Meckler
Mark Meckler is the co-founder of Convention of States (COS) and a leading authority on grassroots mobilization. A former attorney and tech entrepreneur, Mark applied his business expertise to help found the Tea Party Patriots before realizing that electing "better people" wasn't enough to fix a broken Washington.&nbsp;
A committed Christian and advocate for traditional family values, Mark&rsquo;s worldview is grounded in the belief that the administrative state is a structural threat to American sovereignty. His experience ranges from serving as the interim CEO of Parler to starting and selling multiple businesses in retail, restaurants, manufacturing, network marketing, technology, and consulting along with his wife of 31 years, Patty.
Want to Go Deeper?
On Saturday, April 11, Center for Christian Virtue will host our&nbsp;2026 Columbus Celebration Gala.
We're excited to welcome our keynote speaker, Scott Jennings, who is CNN's senior conservative voice and one of the sharpest commentators in the national spotlight. He's known for his clarity, conviction, and humor, and Scott brings decades of experience at the crossroads of politics and media, including serving in the George W. Bush White House and key roles in multiple presidential and Senate campaigns.&nbsp;
It's going to be an elegant evening where you'll enjoy an incredible dinner followed by visionary keynotes exploring the path forward for the future of Ohio and America.&nbsp;
Secure your table today at&nbsp;CCV.org/ColumbusGala.
📢 Talk to Us
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👉&nbsp; Leave us a&nbsp;voicemail&nbsp;or&nbsp;text&nbsp;at&nbsp;<a href="tel:614-769-7077">614-769-7077.</a>
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🔎 About&nbsp;The Narrative
The&nbsp;Narrative&nbsp;breaks away from the script to cut through the typical media narratives and helps you understand the root causes of today&rsquo;s culture and political controversies.
Join Center for Christian Virtue (CCV) President Aaron Baer, Policy Director David Mahan, Communications Director Mike Andrews, and world-renowned experts as they dissect current issues and events from multiple angles and viewpoints, equipping you to be a critical thinker on some of the hottest topics today.

The Constitutional Solution to Government Overreach with Mark Meckler

Big Tech is hiding behind the First Amendment to profit while their algorithms drive our children toward depression and suicide. In this episode of The Narrative, Aaron, David, and Mike expose how these giants are fighting to keep parents out of the room while they harvest the attention of minors. Countries like the UK and Australia are already moving to ban these platforms for children under 16. These giants fought the "Social Media Parental Notification Act" in court and won a temporary reprieve from a federal judge. CCV is back at the Statehouse to hold these platforms accountable through HB302. 

After the news, Associate Professor Wilfred Riley joins the guys to discuss how mid-level bureaucrats are rebranding the poison of DEI as "belonging" or "togetherness" to stay entrenched. Learn how the Deep State functions at the GS-level and why the Left's mechanical drift only stops when we actively dig the ideologues out of the mole holes.

They also tackle the rising threat of the "Woke Right" and why identity politics is a trap that abandons objective truth. From the absurdity of "pregnant men" to the weaponization of language, the hosts unpack why we cannot give an inch to word games that defy biological reality. 

More about Wilfred Reilly

Wilfred Reilly is an Associate Professor of Political Science at Kentucky State University, and the author of the books "Lies My Liberal Teacher Told Me," "Taboo: 10 Facts You Can't Talk About," and "Hate Crime Hoax."

Reilly, alone or in combination with others, has published more than 100 articles across both national media and academic outlets - including Administration and Society, Academic Questions, National Review, Commentary, Newsweek, Spiked UK, and Quillette. His research interests include international relations, contemporary American race relations, and the use of modern quantitative methods to test "sacred cow" theories like the existence of widespread white privilege.

Off work, he enjoys dogs, archery, basketball, and Asian cooking. 

Learn More about the Minnery Fellowship

The Minnery Fellowship provides ongoing educational opportunities for pastors and church leaders to dive into the practical issues facing Christians in culture and develop, with a cohort of their peers, biblical strategies and messages to respond. Get the details and sign up at MinneryFellowship.org.

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🔎 About The Narrative

The Narrative breaks away from the script to cut through the typical media narratives and helps you understand the root causes of today’s culture and political controversies.

Join Center for Christian Virtue (CCV) President Aaron Baer, Policy Director David Mahan, Communications Director Mike Andrews, and world-renowned experts as they dissect current issues and events from multiple angles and viewpoints, equipping you to be a critical thinker on some of the hottest topics today.

Big Tech is hiding behind the First Amendment to profit while their algorithms drive our children toward depression and suicide. In this episode of&nbsp;The Narrative, Aaron, David, and Mike expose how these giants are fighting to keep parents out of the room while they harvest the attention of minors. Countries like the UK and Australia are already moving to ban these platforms for children under 16. These giants fought the "Social Media Parental Notification Act" in court and won a temporary reprieve from a federal judge. CCV is back at the Statehouse to hold these platforms accountable through <a href="https://www.legislature.ohio.gov/legislation/136/hb302">HB302</a>.&nbsp;
After the news, Associate Professor Wilfred Riley joins the guys to discuss how mid-level bureaucrats are rebranding the poison of DEI as "belonging" or "togetherness" to stay entrenched. Learn how the Deep State functions at the GS-level and why the Left's mechanical drift only stops when we actively dig the ideologues out of the mole holes.
They also tackle the rising threat of the "Woke Right" and why identity politics is a trap that abandons objective truth. From the absurdity of "pregnant men" to the weaponization of language, the hosts unpack why we cannot give an inch to word games that defy biological reality.&nbsp;
More about Wilfred Reilly
Wilfred Reilly is an Associate Professor of Political Science at Kentucky State University, and the author of the books&nbsp;"Lies My Liberal Teacher Told Me," "Taboo: 10 Facts You Can't Talk About," and "Hate Crime Hoax."
Reilly, alone or in combination with others, has published more than 100 articles across both national media and academic outlets - including Administration and Society, Academic Questions, National Review, Commentary, Newsweek, Spiked UK, and Quillette. His research interests include international relations, contemporary American race relations, and the use of modern quantitative methods to test "sacred cow" theories like the existence of widespread white privilege.
Off work, he enjoys dogs, archery, basketball, and Asian cooking.&nbsp;
Learn More about the Minnery Fellowship
The Minnery Fellowship provides ongoing educational opportunities for pastors and church leaders to dive into the practical issues facing Christians in culture and develop, with a cohort of their peers, biblical strategies and messages to respond. Get the details and sign up at <a href="https://www.minneryfellowship.org/">MinneryFellowship.org</a>.
📢 Talk to Us
We want to hear from you! As a valued listener,&nbsp;your feedback is critical&nbsp;for us to keep&nbsp;The Narrative&nbsp;insightful, relevant, and helpful. If you have a particular guest, topic, or question you'd like us to cover, let us know!&nbsp;We&rsquo;ll answer your questions on an &ldquo;Ask Us Anything&rdquo; episode later, so send in your questions now.
👉&nbsp; Leave us a&nbsp;voicemail&nbsp;or&nbsp;text&nbsp;at&nbsp;<a href="tel:614-769-7077">614-769-7077.</a>
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🔎 About&nbsp;The Narrative
The&nbsp;Narrative&nbsp;breaks away from the script to cut through the typical media narratives and helps you understand the root causes of today&rsquo;s culture and political controversies.
Join Center for Christian Virtue (CCV) President Aaron Baer, Policy Director David Mahan, Communications Director Mike Andrews, and world-renowned experts as they dissect current issues and events from multiple angles and viewpoints, equipping you to be a critical thinker on some of the hottest topics today.

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