Did you know more than 70 percent of churches in America have no active marriage ministry? Communio is on a mission to change that—while also helping churches evangelize in their communities.

In this week's episode of The Narrative, JP De Gance, Communio founder and president, sits down with CCV President Aaron Baer, Communications Director Mike Andrews, and Church Ambassador Network Executive Director Chris Lightfoot to explore how churches can take the lead in strengthening marriages and families through the hope of the Gospel.

The guys dive into:

⛪ Why marriages are struggling—and how the Church can respond

💍 What makes Communio different from traditional marriage ministries

💭 How churches can capture the social imagination of the next generation

🤝 How CCV and Communio's partnership will impact churches across Ohio

Before hearing from JP, CCV Policy Director David Mahan catches up with Aaron and Mike on this week's news: Ohio's Universal Basic Income proposal and the recent New York Times article responding to President Trump's pro-natalist policies.

 

More about JP De Gance

JP De Gance is the founder and president of Communio, the co-author of Endgame: The Church’s Strategic Move to Save Faith and Family in America, and the author of the Nationwide Study on Faith and Relationships.

Communio is a ministry originally incubated as the Culture of Freedom Initiative at The Philanthropy Roundtable, where JP served as the organization's executive vice president. The Initiative raised and spent $20 million over three years in three different states seeking to identify the most effective strategies to boost marital health, family stability, and church engagement. Today, Communio serves churches across the United States, helping them evangelize by applying what they learned from their successful intervention in Jacksonville.

A husband and father, JP lives in Virginia with his wife and eight children.

🔊 Talk to Us

We want to hear from you! As a valued listener, your feedback is critical for us to keep The Narrative insightful, relevant, and helpful. If you have a particular guest, topic, or question you'd like us to cover, let us know! We’ll answer your questions on an “Ask Us Anything” episode later, so send in your questions now.

👉  Leave us a voicemail or text at 614-769-7077.

👉  Email us at thenarrative@ccv.org.

To learn more about Center for Christian Virtue and to get involved, visit CCV.org.

⭐️ How are we doing?

If you've found any episode of The Narrative insightful, let us know by leaving a review or rating! It helps us to know what you're enjoying and brings the podcast to other listeners, meaning you'rehelping equip your neighbors to understand today's hottest cultural and political topics. So, thank you!

🔎 About The Narrative

The Narrative breaks away from the script to cut through the typical media narratives and helps you understand the root causes of today’s culture and political controversies.

Join Center for Christian Virtue (CCV) President Aaron Baer, Policy Director David Mahan, Communications Director Mike Andrews, and world-renowned experts as they dissect current issues and events from multiple angles and viewpoints, equipping you to be a critical thinker on some of the hottest topics today.

Did you know&nbsp;more than&nbsp;70&nbsp;percent&nbsp;of churches in America have no active marriage ministry?&nbsp;<a href="http://url910.ccv.org/ls/click?upn=u001.bvMvV8bufniskU3WkRz04NC9hTZAUh-2BzJpyJwlZ54Yo-3Dz98n_Tn8IS281I5MkS9-2FaElipxZIBUob-2BYO1nbAKIhHomYTzErr4TeOSRYsY7fwoQ5eoqd5H6woi5xo2lCqo-2B9EW6wsQ-2FmJcUtRYOq236-2FuS4U2myYAshY8vLUllMHlahIfRlDtkby2xY5kq3-2BIznKEwJkNm2srNtZigQlcv0flQhhm1cark-2BGbs-2BdNqy-2Bi1pZhGV4aBlLJV8pRvM4a2w18baKw-3D-3D">Communio</a>&nbsp;is on a mission to change that&mdash;while also helping churches evangelize in their communities.
In this week's episode of&nbsp;The Narrative, JP De Gance, Communio founder and president, sits down with CCV President Aaron Baer, Communications Director Mike Andrews, and Church Ambassador Network Executive Director Chris Lightfoot to explore how churches can take the lead in strengthening marriages and families through the hope of the Gospel.
The guys dive into:
⛪ Why marriages are struggling&mdash;and how the Church can respond
💍 What makes Communio different from traditional marriage ministries
💭 How churches can capture the social imagination of the next generation
🤝 How CCV and Communio's partnership will impact churches across Ohio
Before hearing from JP, CCV Policy Director David Mahan catches up with Aaron and Mike on this week's news: Ohio's <a href="https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/2025/04/20/can-500-change-lives-stem-poverty-new-columbus-programs-test-theory-ubi-universal-basic-income-rise/81787264007/">Universal Basic Income proposal</a> and the recent <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/21/us/politics/trump-birthrate-proposals.html">New York Times article</a> responding to President Trump's pro-natalist policies.
&nbsp;
More about JP De Gance
JP De Gance is the founder and president of <a href="https://communio.org/">Communio</a>, the co-author of <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Endgame-Churchs-Strategic-Family-America-ebook/dp/B09FWQNFCQ">Endgame: The Church&rsquo;s Strategic Move to Save Faith and Family in America</a>, and the author of the <a href="https://communio.org/study/">Nationwide Study on Faith and Relationships</a>.
Communio is a ministry originally incubated as the Culture of Freedom Initiative at The Philanthropy Roundtable, where JP served as the organization's executive vice president. The Initiative raised and spent $20 million over three years in three different states seeking to identify the most effective strategies to boost marital health, family stability, and church engagement. Today, Communio serves churches across the United States, helping them evangelize by applying what they learned from their successful intervention in Jacksonville.
A husband and father, JP lives in Virginia with his wife and eight children.
<hr>
🔊 Talk to Us
We want to hear from you! As a valued listener, your feedback is critical for us to keep The Narrative insightful, relevant, and helpful. If you have a particular guest, topic, or question you'd like us to cover, let us know! We&rsquo;ll answer your questions on an &ldquo;Ask Us Anything&rdquo; episode later, so send in your questions now.
👉&nbsp; Leave us a voicemail or text at <a href="tel:614-769-7077">614-769-7077.</a>
👉&nbsp; Email us at <a href="mailto:thenarrative@ccv.org">thenarrative@ccv.org.</a>
To learn more about Center for Christian Virtue and to get involved, visit&nbsp;<a href="https://www.ccv.org/join">CCV.org.</a>
⭐️ How are we doing?
If you've found any episode of The Narrative insightful, let us know by leaving a review or rating! It helps us to know what you're enjoying and&nbsp;brings the podcast to other listeners, meaning you're helping equip your neighbors to understand today's hottest cultural and political topics. So, thank you!
🔎 About The Narrative
The&nbsp;Narrative breaks away from the script to cut through the typical media narratives and helps you understand the root causes of today&rsquo;s culture and political controversies.
Join Center for Christian Virtue (CCV) President Aaron Baer, Policy Director David Mahan, Communications Director Mike Andrews, and world-renowned experts as they dissect current issues and events from multiple angles and viewpoints, equipping you to be a critical thinker on some of the hottest topics today.

The Narrative breaks away from the script to reveal the driving forces behind the most important and divisive issues facing our culture today.

Visit CCV.org to learn more.

The Narrative breaks away from the script to reveal the driving forces behind the most important and divisive issues facing our culture today.
Visit <a href="https://www.ccv.org/">CCV.org</a> to learn more.

The Narrative

🔊 Talk to Us

We want to hear from you! Your feedback helps us keep The Narrative insightful, relevant, and engaging. Have a guest suggestion, a topic you're curious about, or a question you want answered? Let us know! We host “Ask Us Anything” episodes where we respond to your questions on the show.

👉  Leave us a voicemail or text at 614-769-7077.

👉  Email us at thenarrative@ccv.org.

To learn more about Center for Christian Virtue and to get involved, visit CCV.org.

⭐️ How are we doing?

If you've found any episode of The Narrative to be insightful, let us know by leaving a review or rating! It really helps us to know what you're enjoying and it brings the podcast to other listeners, meaning you'rehelping equip your neighbors to understand today's hottest cultural and political topics. So, thank you!

🔎 About The Narrative

The Narrative breaks away from the script to cut through the typical media narratives, and helps you understand the root causes of today’s culture, and political controversies.

Join Center for Christian Virtue (CCV) President Aaron Baer, Policy Director David Mahan, Communications Director Mike Andrews, and world-renowned experts as they dissect current issues and events from multiple angles and viewpoints, equipping you to be a critical thinker on some of the hottest topics today.

Visit CCV.org/TheNarrative to learn more.

Produced by Wessler Media.

🔊 Talk to Us
We want to hear from you! Your feedback helps us keep The Narrative insightful, relevant, and engaging. Have a guest suggestion, a topic you're curious about, or a question you want answered? Let us know! We host &ldquo;Ask Us Anything&rdquo; episodes where we respond to your questions on the show.
👉&nbsp; Leave us a voicemail or text at <a href="tel:614-769-7077">614-769-7077.</a>
👉&nbsp; Email us at <a href="mailto:thenarrative@ccv.org">thenarrative@ccv.org.</a>
To learn more about Center for Christian Virtue and to get involved, visit&nbsp;<a href="https://www.ccv.org/join">CCV.org.</a>
<hr>
⭐️ How are we doing?
If you've found any episode of The Narrative to be insightful, let us know by leaving a review or rating! It really helps us to know what you're enjoying and it brings the podcast to other listeners, meaning&nbsp;you're helping equip your neighbors to understand today's hottest cultural and political topics. So, thank you!
<hr>
🔎 About The Narrative
The&nbsp;Narrative&nbsp;breaks away from the script to cut through the typical media&nbsp;narratives, and helps you understand the root causes of today&rsquo;s culture, and political controversies.
Join Center for Christian Virtue (CCV) President Aaron Baer, Policy Director David Mahan, Communications Director Mike Andrews, and world-renowned experts as they dissect current issues and events from multiple angles and viewpoints, equipping you to be a critical thinker on some of the hottest topics today.
Visit <a href="CCV.org/TheNarrative">CCV.org/TheNarrative</a> to learn more.
Produced by <a href="https://www.wesslermedia.com/">Wessler Media</a>.

Advertisement