Pastor Michael Fuelling joins Ian in studio to fill in for Brian today. Michael happens to be a long-time friend of Ian’s from childhood He discusses his experiences with leading Village Church and generational differences within his congregation as well as his community.

DC Talk announced that they are touring again as they reemerge after almost two decades. Brian and Michael discuss the impact of the Christian rock giants on youth culture back in their day. Naturally, more memories of their childhood arise.

Michael talks about his podcast platform and the success he has had. He talks about routines he’s started since the beginning of the year, one of them including no caffeine on Sunday mornings.

Michael sticks around for one for segment to how charisma and intelligence apply to pastoring and leading. Ian insists that Michael is “ten times” more intelligent, but Michael thinks that Ian exudes more charisma. They also briefly discuss the BCCI, an outreach program out of Village Church in Bartlett to help the homeless.