Andrew wonders who today's Prime Minister is, while Karl takes a trip out to Heide to look at - but not sit in - some of the most perfect examples of the work of Australia's most famous furniture designers.

Grant and Mary Featherston make a showing at the NGV too, in an exhibition about the NGV. Meanwhile, Karl is still reeling from the ending of Sharp Objects, and Better Call Saul morphs into Breaking Bad redux. It's all here on your favourite pop culture podcast.

Karl Quinn is on Twitter, Facebook and writes a lot for Fairfax Media.

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