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In the 1990s, Samuel T. Cohen, the father of the neutron bomb, became extremely vocal about the fact that the Soviets had discovered a new raw material that could potentially spell the end of organised society. Red mercury had hit the market. 



Apparently, when detonated in combination with conventional high explosives, it could create city-flattening blasts like a nuclear bomb. And, it would help make nuclear fusion weapons more efficient and considerably smaller. It was an arms dealer’s dream!



In theory, red mercury could produce enormous pressures and temperatures, sufficient to initiate a mini pure fusion explosion. Traditionally, fusion weapons need a fission component to trigger the deuterium fusion. However, with red mercury, this fission step is supposedly unnecessary. Cohen described it as a remarkably non-exploding high explosive. Sounds like something from a Marvel movie right?

SOURCES:

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2004/sep/30/thisweekssciencequestions1

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_T._Cohen#Red_Mercury_claims

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00963402.1997.11456737

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazher_Mahmood

https://web.archive.org/web/20081016050603/http://www.financialsense.com/editorials/douglass/2003/0311.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/22/magazine/the-doomsday-scam.html

https://www.gizbot.com/internet/news/what-is-red-mercury-and-why-people-are-ready-to-pay-lakhs-for-it-068487.html

https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg13418241-900-only-fools-still-hunt-for-elusive-red-mercury/



CHAPTERS:

00:00 Samuel T. Cohen Concerns About New Raw Material

03:05 Red Mercury: Doomsday Dreams

07:41 Mass Destruction or Myth?

10:06 Red Mercury Hoaxes 

14:23 Cohen Claims Red Mercury Exists

17:28 Frank Barnaby’s Investigations

23:30 Scammers and Fake Red Mercury

31:12 The Mystical and Sexual Properties of Mercury

41:16 The Enduring Red Mercury Scam

In the 1990s, Samuel T. Cohen, the father of the neutron bomb, became extremely vocal about the fact that the Soviets had discovered a new raw material that could potentially spell the end of organised society. Red mercury had hit the market. 
 
Apparently, when detonated in combination with conventional high explosives, it could create city-flattening blasts like a nuclear bomb. And, it would help make nuclear fusion weapons more efficient and considerably smaller. It was an arms dealer’s dream!
 
In theory, red mercury could produce enormous pressures and temperatures, sufficient to initiate a mini pure fusion explosion. Traditionally, fusion weapons need a fission component to trigger the deuterium fusion. However, with red mercury, this fission step is supposedly unnecessary. Cohen described it as a remarkably non-exploding high explosive. Sounds like something from a Marvel movie right?
SOURCES:
<a href="https://www.theguardian.com/science/2004/sep/30/thisweekssciencequestions1" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.theguardian.com/science/2004/sep/30/thisweekssciencequestions1&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1723185199653000&amp;usg=AOvVaw3qQhoqhFeZit2LdrGv_Ljw">https://www.theguardian.com/science/2004/sep/30/thisweekssciencequestions1</a>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_T._Cohen#Red_Mercury_claims" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_T._Cohen%23Red_Mercury_claims&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1723185199653000&amp;usg=AOvVaw1vtPa2FCwLDvWAvnYTkycT">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_T._Cohen#Red_Mercury_claims</a>
<a href="https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00963402.1997.11456737" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00963402.1997.11456737&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1723185199653000&amp;usg=AOvVaw1_qy4CxEpwIaxIy9H__-qs">https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00963402.1997.11456737</a>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazher_Mahmood" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazher_Mahmood&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1723185199653000&amp;usg=AOvVaw0Ky9goVHKGGtz143m-fmkP">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazher_Mahmood</a>
<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20081016050603/http:/www.financialsense.com/editorials/douglass/2003/0311.html" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://web.archive.org/web/20081016050603/http:/www.financialsense.com/editorials/douglass/2003/0311.html&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1723185199653000&amp;usg=AOvVaw3i1LiQxVbhncnQyc8xZoVs">https://web.archive.org/web/20081016050603/http://www.financialsense.com/editorials/douglass/2003/0311.html</a>
<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/22/magazine/the-doomsday-scam.html" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/22/magazine/the-doomsday-scam.html&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1723185199653000&amp;usg=AOvVaw2Do-dvvxuQhG0-oHGIwvsX">https://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/22/magazine/the-doomsday-scam.html</a>
<a href="https://www.gizbot.com/internet/news/what-is-red-mercury-and-why-people-are-ready-to-pay-lakhs-for-it-068487.html" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.gizbot.com/internet/news/what-is-red-mercury-and-why-people-are-ready-to-pay-lakhs-for-it-068487.html&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1723185199653000&amp;usg=AOvVaw06lV5D6xRSOVF8pWrqxS2g">https://www.gizbot.com/internet/news/what-is-red-mercury-and-why-people-are-ready-to-pay-lakhs-for-it-068487.html</a>
<a href="https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg13418241-900-only-fools-still-hunt-for-elusive-red-mercury/" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg13418241-900-only-fools-still-hunt-for-elusive-red-mercury/&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1723185199653000&amp;usg=AOvVaw0vy9Ryrzw4AdsG9ITQV7ji">https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg13418241-900-only-fools-still-hunt-for-elusive-red-mercury/</a>
 
CHAPTERS:
00:00 Samuel T. Cohen Concerns About New Raw Material
03:05 Red Mercury: Doomsday Dreams
07:41 Mass Destruction or Myth?
10:06 Red Mercury Hoaxes 
14:23 Cohen Claims Red Mercury Exists
17:28 Frank Barnaby’s Investigations
23:30 Scammers and Fake Red Mercury
31:12 The Mystical and Sexual Properties of Mercury
41:16 The Enduring Red Mercury Scam

Red Mercury: Snake Oil, Witchcraft and Nuclear Bomb All In One

Born just outside Vienna, Austria in November 1860, Hanns Hörbiger was an engineer by trade. He invented a steel valve for a blast furnace blowing engine which changed the game for efficient steel production. He also played a key role in the design and construction of the Budapest subway, the third in the world at the time. He was obviously a clever man. A real thinker. And some might say, a complete nut job. 

A keen astronomer, one evening Hörbiger pointed his telescope at the moon and suddenly realised, it was all made of ice. It was so shiny! How could it not be ice? He looked at Mars. He looked at Neptune. He looked at the Milky Way…Everything in the cosmos was ice. And not only was it made of ice, but ice was the driving force of the entire universe.

Strangely, the German scientific community at the time thought Hörbiger was bonkers and didn’t pay attention to anything he said. World War I was happening so, you know, people had other things to think about.

But Hörbiger was not dissuaded. He became a total zealot and decided that all he needed to do was convince the masses of his ideas. Then the academic scientists would be pressured to agree. 

SOURCES:
Willy Ley: Pseudoscience in Naziland
Christina Wessely: Cosmic Ice Theory—Science, Fiction and the Public, 1894–1945. 
Eric Kurlander: Hitler’s Monsters
Eric Kurlander: A Song of Ice and Fire 
Philip Ball: How 2 Pro-Nazi Nobelists Attacked Einstein’s "Jewish Science" 
The Occult History of the Third Reich: Horbiger

CHAPTERS:

00:00 The Dark Side of the German Students Union

03:12 Hans Hörbiger: Engineer & Inventor

05:35 Hörbiger's Cosmic Ice Theory

06:25 A Prophetic Dream and Pendulum Science

11:09 The Origin of the Solar System According to Hörbiger

17:23 Cults and Cosmic Theories

19:14 Hobiger's Zeal and Post-War Tactics

20:16 The Rise of the World Ice Movement

22:38 Hitler Embraces World Ice Theory

29:52 The Pseudoscience Impact on Nazi Germany

33:39 The Downfall and Legacy of the World Ice Theory

Born just outside Vienna, Austria in November 1860, Hanns Hörbiger was an engineer by trade. He invented a steel valve for a blast furnace blowing engine which changed the game for efficient steel production. He also played a key role in the design and construction of the Budapest subway, the third in the world at the time. He was obviously a clever man. A real thinker. And some might say, a complete nut job. 
A keen astronomer, one evening Hörbiger pointed his telescope at the moon and suddenly realised, it was all made of ice. It was so shiny! How could it not be ice? He looked at Mars. He looked at Neptune. He looked at the Milky Way…Everything in the cosmos was ice. And not only was it made of ice, but ice was the driving force of the entire universe.
Strangely, the German scientific community at the time thought Hörbiger was bonkers and didn’t pay attention to anything he said. World War I was happening so, you know, people had other things to think about.
But Hörbiger was not dissuaded. He became a total zealot and decided that all he needed to do was convince the masses of his ideas. Then the academic scientists would be pressured to agree. 
SOURCES:
<ul>
<ul>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="http://www.alpenfestung.com/ley_pseudoscience.htm">Willy Ley: Pseudoscience in Naziland</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mpiwg-berlin.mpg.de/research/projects/DeptIII-ChristinaWessely-Welteislehre">Christina Wessely: Cosmic Ice Theory—Science, Fiction and the Public, 1894–1945. </a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Eric Kurlander: Hitler’s Monsters</li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.laphamsquarterly.org/roundtable/song-ice-and-fire">Eric Kurlander: A Song of Ice and Fire </a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-2-pro-nazi-nobelists-attacked-einstein-s-jewish-science-excerpt1/">Philip Ball: How 2 Pro-Nazi Nobelists Attacked Einstein’s "Jewish Science" </a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="http://thirdreichocculthistory.blogspot.com/2011/07/">The Occult History of the Third Reich: Horbiger</a></li>
</ul>
</ul>
CHAPTERS:
00:00 The Dark Side of the German Students Union
03:12 Hans Hörbiger: Engineer &amp; Inventor
05:35 Hörbiger's Cosmic Ice Theory
06:25 A Prophetic Dream and Pendulum Science
11:09 The Origin of the Solar System According to Hörbiger
17:23 Cults and Cosmic Theories
19:14 Hobiger's Zeal and Post-War Tactics
20:16 The Rise of the World Ice Movement
22:38 Hitler Embraces World Ice Theory
29:52 The Pseudoscience Impact on Nazi Germany
33:39 The Downfall and Legacy of the World Ice Theory

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