When God disrupts what’s familiar, He’s often inviting us into deeper trust.
In this episode of The Walk, Kurtis Parks sits down with Jeff Deyo to talk about calling, pain, faithfulness, and what it really means to shepherd people—not just lead platforms.

In this conversation, you’ll hear Jeff and Kurtis talk about:


Why pastoring is less about performance and more about guiding people to God


How pain and disappointment often precede clarity in our calling


What it looks like to be “comfortable in the uncomfortable” as a follower of Jesus


Why the church doesn’t need more spectators—it needs more shepherded disciples


The difference between feeding sheep and teaching them how to graze


Staying rooted when it would be easier to walk away

Guest Bio

Jeff Deyo is the lead pastor of Trinity Church Waxahachie in Waxahachie, Texas, near Dallas. He is an author, speaker, leadership coach, and longtime worship leader best known as the former lead singer of the Grammy-nominated, Dove Award-winning band Sonicflood. Jeff has written and recorded over 75 songs, authored several books on worship and leadership, and served for 14 years as a professor at North Central University in Minneapolis. Today, Jeff’s heart is centered on pastoring people into deeper intimacy with God, raising up disciples, and helping leaders live rooted, Spirit-led lives.

Pull Quote

“The only place God wants you to be comfortable is in the uncomfortable—because that’s where faith actually grows.”

Helpful Links

https://www.jeffdeyo.com
https://www.instagram.com/jeffdeyo

Sponsor: Planning Center

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When God disrupts what&rsquo;s familiar, He&rsquo;s often inviting us into deeper trust. In this episode of The Walk, Kurtis Parks sits down with Jeff Deyo to talk about calling, pain, faithfulness, and what it really means to shepherd people&mdash;not just lead platforms.
In this conversation, you&rsquo;ll hear Jeff and Kurtis talk about:
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Why pastoring is less about performance and more about guiding people to God
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How pain and disappointment often precede clarity in our calling
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What it looks like to be &ldquo;comfortable in the uncomfortable&rdquo; as a follower of Jesus
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Why the church doesn&rsquo;t need more spectators&mdash;it needs more shepherded disciples
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The difference between feeding sheep and teaching them how to graze
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Staying rooted when it would be easier to walk away
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Guest Bio
Jeff Deyo is the lead pastor of Trinity Church Waxahachie in Waxahachie, Texas, near Dallas. He is an author, speaker, leadership coach, and longtime worship leader best known as the former lead singer of the Grammy-nominated, Dove Award-winning band Sonicflood. Jeff has written and recorded over 75 songs, authored several books on worship and leadership, and served for 14 years as a professor at North Central University in Minneapolis. Today, Jeff&rsquo;s heart is centered on pastoring people into deeper intimacy with God, raising up disciples, and helping leaders live rooted, Spirit-led lives.
Pull Quote
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&ldquo;The only place God wants you to be comfortable is in the uncomfortable&mdash;because that&rsquo;s where faith actually grows.&rdquo;
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Helpful Links
<a href="https://www.jeffdeyo.com" data-start="1920" data-end="1944">https://www.jeffdeyo.com</a> <a data-start="1947" data-end="1981">https://www.instagram.com/jeffdeyo</a>
Sponsor: Planning Center
This episode is brought to you by Planning Center&mdash;the all-in-one software that helps churches plan services, schedule volunteers, and stay organized so ministry can thrive. Try it free today at: <a data-start="2219" data-end="2245">https://planningcenter.com</a>

Part of the Worship Leader Magazine Podcast Network, The Walk is a weekly devotional podcast where faith meets story in powerful, personal ways.

Each episode features a first-person devotional from a worship leader, pastor, artist, or creative—believers who don’t just lead worship, but live it. These aren’t interviews; they’re heartfelt testimonies about walking with God in the highs and lows, the mundane and miraculous.

Produced by Worship Leader Magazine, a trusted resource in worship ministry for over 30 years, The Walk equips and encourages worshipers to cultivate a lifestyle of Spirit-led worship beyond the platform.

Whether you’re a seasoned leader or just beginning your journey, these stories will help you walk closer with Jesus.

Explore every episode:worshipleader.com/podcasts

Part of the Worship Leader Magazine Podcast Network, The Walk is a weekly devotional podcast where faith meets story in powerful, personal ways.
Each episode features a first-person devotional from a worship leader, pastor, artist, or creative&mdash;believers who don&rsquo;t just lead worship, but live it. These aren&rsquo;t interviews; they&rsquo;re heartfelt testimonies about walking with God in the highs and lows, the mundane and miraculous.
Produced by Worship Leader Magazine, a trusted resource in worship ministry for over 30 years, The Walk equips and encourages worshipers to cultivate a lifestyle of Spirit-led worship beyond the platform.
Whether you&rsquo;re a seasoned leader or just beginning your journey, these stories will help you walk closer with Jesus.
Explore every episode: <a href="https://worshipleader.com/podcasts/" data-start="1072" data-end="1137">worshipleader.com/podcasts</a>

Worship Leaders are more than just musicians and performers. These leaders and creatives walk with God daily and can bring a good word to the Body of Christ.

The Walk: A Devotional Podcast from Worship Leader Magazine

The Walk Podcast shares real conversations with worshippers—moments when faith was tested, obedience cost something, and God showed up.

You’ll hear the struggle.
You’ll hear the choice.
You’ll hear what God did.

Because faith isn’t just a moment—it’s a walk. And you don’t have to walk it alone.

Hosted by Bay Turner
Part of the Worship Leader Magazine Podcast Network

Explore every episode: worshipleader.com/podcasts
Learn more: worshipleader.com/podcast/the-walk
Subscribe on your favorite platform: pod.link/1631583177

The Walk Podcast shares real conversations with worshippers&mdash;moments when faith was tested, obedience cost something, and God showed up.
You&rsquo;ll hear the struggle. You&rsquo;ll hear the choice. You&rsquo;ll hear what God did.
Because faith isn&rsquo;t just a moment&mdash;it&rsquo;s a walk. And you don&rsquo;t have to walk it alone.
Hosted by <a href="https://www.bayturner.com/">Bay Turner</a> Part of the <a href="https://worshipleader.com/podcasts/">Worship Leader Magazine Podcast Network</a>
Explore every episode: <a href="https://www.worshipleader.com/podcasts" data-start="773" data-end="841">worshipleader.com/podcasts</a> Learn more: <a href="https://worshipleader.com/podcast/the-walk" data-start="856" data-end="936">worshipleader.com/podcast/the-walk</a> Subscribe on your favorite platform: <a href="https://pod.link/1631583177" data-start="976" data-end="1026">pod.link/1631583177</a>

The Walk Podcast: Faith in the Real World

Jeff Deyo: Getting Comfortable in the Uncomfortable When God Calls You Deeper

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