Cheryl Thibault and Phoenix Van Dyke interview Alex Fox, ,organizer of Nailympia since its inauguration into London in May 2005, and editor-in-chief of Scratch magazine.

 

HOST BIO: 

Cheryl Thibault is a visionary, entrepreneur, multi-business owner, educator, influencer, and game changer in the beauty industry. A student of life, who will never stop growing and learning. She is assertive and an uncompromising beauty professional, and has been for over 40 years.  As a long time founder / owner of beauty spas and education centers since 1981, 

An Author, Co-Author and currently penning a series of books dedicated to telling her life story, overcoming struggles, and gaining life and career success. She is a true trail blazer and actively integrates love, understanding and compassion into all areas of her life as she influences thousands around the world to carry that forward.

Cheryl Thibault and Phoenix Van Dyke interview Alex Fox, ,organizer of Nailympia since its inauguration into London in May 2005, and editor-in-chief of Scratch magazine.
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HOST BIO: 
Cheryl Thibault is a visionary, entrepreneur, multi-business owner, educator, influencer, and game changer in the beauty industry. A student of life, who will never stop growing and learning. She is assertive and an uncompromising beauty professional, and has been for over 40 years.&nbsp; As a long time founder / owner of beauty spas and education centers since 1981,&nbsp;
An Author, Co-Author and currently penning a series of books dedicated to telling her life story, overcoming struggles, and gaining life and career success. She is a true trail blazer and actively integrates love, understanding and compassion into all areas of her life as she influences thousands around the world to carry that forward.

This is a show with a very diverse range of guests. Cheryl will be interviewing or conversing with many guests from all walks of life – each contributing THEIR story. It will be hart warming, funny and inspirational and educational.

This is a show with a very diverse range of guests. Cheryl will be interviewing or conversing with many guests from all walks of life &ndash; each contributing THEIR story. It will be hart warming, funny and inspirational and educational.

The Walk Of Life

Cheryl Thibault and Phoenix Van Dyke interview Alex Fox

On this bonus episode of The Walk Of Life podcast, Cheryl Thibault is joined by Cheryl Boone to talk about her journey as well as the chapter she wrote for the book, ‘Disrupting The Status Quo’, called ‘A Leap Of Faith’.
KEY TAKEAWAYS
Sometimes we sit and we think too much about what we want to do or what we’re going to do. It’s then that the voices come and tell you that you can’t do it. Sometimes you actually start listening to those voices that are coming to keep you from moving forward and doing the things that god called you to do. I would hear the voices – I wouldn’t tell anyone – but I would sometimes entertain them to the point where I wouldn’t move forward to do what God called me to do.
The Bible tells us to pull down strongholds, pulling down every thought and every imagination that exalts itself above the word and the knowledge of god. Because I know the word, when the thoughts begin to come, as a Christian woman, it is my job to pull those thoughts down because I know those thoughts are not from god. It doesn’t stop the thoughts from coming but it charges me to do what I know to do, and that’s to pull down every thought.
I’ve been writing songs for years, god has gifted my songs since I was a young woman. I didn’t have a gift or a talent, I would just hear it – the songs and the lyrics. I hear it in my spirit because I hear it from within. I get quiet before the lord and all of a sudden I start hearing words and I start writing, later I come back after I’ve heard everything to perfect everything that I heard.
When I connected with Dr Sonya and the women at Disrupting The Status Quo, it was as if the baby inside of me began to leap. When we came together it was like a wind at our back or an opening that took place inside of me to complete some things that god had already given that I hadn’t gone forth with. Divine connections started taking place and I started meeting people who could help me with things and it was almost as if everything that I started putting in my hand had a motion going. It literally was the wind in my back that caused me to move forward, it’s amazing!

BEST MOMENTS
‘The Bible talks about the mind being a battlefield and the enemy comes to put targets or darts of thoughts in your mind even to convince you to the point that it’s you.’
‘I am who I am.’
‘I was concerned someone would steal my music. I was in a bad place then, though from outside I didn’t appear to be in a bad place because I’m singing praise and worship in the church. I'm being about God's business, but there was a part of me that was afraid to take the next step of where god needed me to go. It was a battle from within.’
‘I do believe now is my turn, I do believe now I’m having divine connections, I do believe now doors are opening.’
ABOUT THE GUEST
Cheryl Boone is a Psalmist and a prophetic Songwriter, Entrepreneur, and Author. Her first book ‘Poems From The Heart’, which was birthed through an encounter with God, was featured in Today's Purposed Woman Magazine. She has been writing songs and prophetic poetry for several decades. As a veteran of the United States Armed Forces and former retiree from Corporate America. 
Cheryl considers herself as a finisher. Everything in her life is intertwined with dedication and longevity. 
As founder and CEO of  I Write A Song Ministries Cheryl’s endeavours are to create a safe space for other artists like herself; to produce a divine and fresh sound to impact the kingdom. Her clothing line Poems From the Heart inspires those to align with God to produce fruit of the spirit. 
She serves diligently at the Master’s Touch Church. A place of faith, courage and strength. An oasis where leaders find rest. As head Elder of Administration, Board member, Psalmist and Servant.
Website: https://www.poemsfromtheheart.shop/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/cheryl.boone.758
Instagram: @cheryl.boone.758
VALUABLE RESOURCES
Be a guest!  - https://misscheryl.com/podcast/podcast-guest-form/
FREE E-BOOK - http://promos.misscheryl.com/
CHECK OUT MY BOOKS - https://misscheryl.com/features/book-launch-career-in-the-beauty-industry/
ABOUT THE HOST
Cheryl Thibault is a visionary, entrepreneur, multi-business owner, educator, influencer, and game changer in the beauty industry. A student of life, who will never stop growing and learning. She is assertive and an uncompromising beauty professional, and has been for over 40 years.  As a long time founder/owner of beauty spas and education centres since 1981, 
An Author, Co-Author and currently penning a series of books dedicated to telling her life story, overcoming struggles, and gaining life and career success. She is a true trailblazer and actively integrates love, understanding and compassion into all areas of her life as she influences thousands around the world to carry that forward.
CONTACT METHODS
Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/cheryltbo/
Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/cherylthibault1/
Linkedin - https://www.linkedin.com/in/cherylthibault/
Podcast website:  www.thewalkoflifestories.com

On this bonus episode of The Walk Of Life podcast, Cheryl Thibault is joined by Cheryl Boone to talk about her journey as well as the chapter she wrote for the book, ‘Disrupting The Status Quo’, called ‘A Leap Of Faith’. KEY TAKEAWAYS
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">Sometimes we sit and we think too much about what we want to do or what we’re going to do. It’s then that the voices come and tell you that you can’t do it. Sometimes you actually start listening to those voices that are coming to keep you from moving forward and doing the things that god called you to do. I would hear the voices – I wouldn’t tell anyone – but I would sometimes entertain them to the point where I wouldn’t move forward to do what God called me to do.</li>
<li aria-level="1">The Bible tells us to pull down strongholds, pulling down every thought and every imagination that exalts itself above the word and the knowledge of god. Because I know the word, when the thoughts begin to come, as a Christian woman, it is my job to pull those thoughts down because I know those thoughts are not from god. It doesn’t stop the thoughts from coming but it charges me to do what I know to do, and that’s to pull down every thought.</li>
<li aria-level="1">I’ve been writing songs for years, god has gifted my songs since I was a young woman. I didn’t have a gift or a talent, I would just hear it – the songs and the lyrics. I hear it in my spirit because I hear it from within. I get quiet before the lord and all of a sudden I start hearing words and I start writing, later I come back after I’ve heard everything to perfect everything that I heard.</li>
<li aria-level="1">When I connected with Dr Sonya and the women at Disrupting The Status Quo, it was as if the baby inside of me began to leap. When we came together it was like a wind at our back or an opening that took place inside of me to complete some things that god had already given that I hadn’t gone forth with. Divine connections started taking place and I started meeting people who could help me with things and it was almost as if everything that I started putting in my hand had a motion going. It literally was the wind in my back that caused me to move forward, it’s amazing!</li>
</ul>
BEST MOMENTS ‘The Bible talks about the mind being a battlefield and the enemy comes to put targets or darts of thoughts in your mind even to convince you to the point that it’s you.’ ‘I am who I am.’ ‘I was concerned someone would steal my music. I was in a bad place then, though from outside I didn’t appear to be in a bad place because I’m singing praise and worship in the church. I'm being about God's business, but there was a part of me that was afraid to take the next step of where god needed me to go. It was a battle from within.’ ‘I do believe now is my turn, I do believe now I’m having divine connections, I do believe now doors are opening.’ ABOUT THE GUEST Cheryl Boone is a Psalmist and a prophetic Songwriter, Entrepreneur, and Author. Her first book ‘Poems From The Heart’, which was birthed through an encounter with God, was featured in Today's Purposed Woman Magazine. She has been writing songs and prophetic poetry for several decades. As a veteran of the United States Armed Forces and former retiree from Corporate America.  Cheryl considers herself as a finisher. Everything in her life is intertwined with dedication and longevity.  As founder and CEO of  I Write A Song Ministries Cheryl’s endeavours are to create a safe space for other artists like herself; to produce a divine and fresh sound to impact the kingdom. Her clothing line Poems From the Heart inspires those to align with God to produce fruit of the spirit.  She serves diligently at the Master’s Touch Church. A place of faith, courage and strength. An oasis where leaders find rest. As head Elder of Administration, Board member, Psalmist and Servant. Website: <a href="https://www.poemsfromtheheart.shop/">https://www.poemsfromtheheart.shop/</a>  Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/cheryl.boone.758">https://www.facebook.com/cheryl.boone.758</a> Instagram: @cheryl.boone.758 VALUABLE RESOURCES Be a guest!  - <a href="https://misscheryl.com/podcast/podcast-guest-form/">https://misscheryl.com/podcast/podcast-guest-form/</a> FREE E-BOOK - <a href="http://promos.misscheryl.com/">http://promos.misscheryl.com/</a>  CHECK OUT MY BOOKS - <a href="https://misscheryl.com/features/book-launch-career-in-the-beauty-industry/">https://misscheryl.com/features/book-launch-career-in-the-beauty-industry/</a>  ABOUT THE HOST Cheryl Thibault is a visionary, entrepreneur, multi-business owner, educator, influencer, and game changer in the beauty industry. A student of life, who will never stop growing and learning. She is assertive and an uncompromising beauty professional, and has been for over 40 years.  As a long time founder/owner of beauty spas and education centres since 1981, An Author, Co-Author and currently penning a series of books dedicated to telling her life story, overcoming struggles, and gaining life and career success. She is a true trailblazer and actively integrates love, understanding and compassion into all areas of her life as she influences thousands around the world to carry that forward. CONTACT METHODS Facebook - <a href="https://www.facebook.com/cheryltbo/">https://www.facebook.com/cheryltbo/</a> Instagram - <a href="https://www.instagram.com/cherylthibault1/">https://www.instagram.com/cherylthibault1/</a> Linkedin - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/cherylthibault/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/cherylthibault/</a> Podcast website:  <a href="http://www.thewalkoflifestories.com">www.thewalkoflifestories.com</a>

On this bonus episode of The Walk Of Life podcast, Cheryl Thibault is joined by Cheryl Boone to talk about her journey as well as the chapter she wrote for the book, ‘Disrupting The Status Quo’, called ‘A Leap Of Faith’.

The Walk Of Life With Cheryl Boone

On this bonus episode of The Walk Of Life podcast, Cheryl Thibault is joined by Christine Bowen about her journey as well as her chapter in the book ‘Disrupting The Status Quo’.
KEY TAKEAWAYS
A lot of people don’t realise how vulnerable kids can be, we often think that kids aren’t around and listening – believe me, they are! When I was around 14 years old my aunts were in the kitchen discussing me, but not in a positive manner. They were saying that I wasn’t going to amount to anything and I may not even graduate high school. I never thought these things would come out of the mouths of people who say they love you.
I had been given away by my mother when I was 2 weeks old to be raised by another family. So, I’d already gone through rejection and abandonment, so you cling to those who you think love you and those you think you can trust. After the hurt and thinking “what’s so bad about me?” After hearing them speak about me, I wanted to deny it, but I couldn’t because they were right there. I had to digest that at that age and I eventually got to a place of saying “no, that does not define who I am”, and I set out to make them a liar.
This catapulted me to even where I am today, as a breast cancer survivor. When you get a diagnosis that doesn’t define who you are, you have to make the choice of are you going to fight or are you going to give up? I fought then, I’m cancer free since 2010, I refuse to believe anything else and I refuse to believe that I couldn’t be somebody, that I wasn’t worth having a company, being a director, going to get my Master’s Degree, now working on my Doctoral Degree. I couldn’t allow the negativity to suffocate me to where I couldn’t be living on purpose.
There is purpose in each one of us. You have a purpose, you have a desire. If you say you’re an artist, go be an artist, go take a class, there are free classes, we’re out of excuses as to why we can’t live, why we can’t live with purpose, why we can’t be happy. Some of us are living, but we’re not actually living. We’re living to survive, we’re living for other people, we’re living to feed our families, but you're not actually living and able to enjoy life. That’s where I am now.

BEST MOMENTS
‘Don’t give up and allow negativity to hinder you or keep you from moving forward with the things you want to do with your life. People can say what they want to but it’s you who has to take the action. Are you going to do what you’re called to do or are you going to go ahead and give them what they’re actually thinking about your worth?’
‘It’s unfortunate, but a lot of times those closest to you are the ones that will hurt you.’
‘Too often we just settle, in how to pay the bills and even in love. We don’t think that we can do better or that we’re worth more. We’ve got to stop settling and start moving and living on purpose.’
‘I’m living my purpose by the writing that I’m doing. I never saw myself as an author, I didn’t even like writing papers in class. But when I begin to write what’s in my heart, what’s downloaded in me to write, I can’t stop writing. Then, when you see what you’ve created and other people can read it and it impacts their life, you now know this is your purpose.’
ABOUT THE GUEST
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/christine.bowen.313
Email: christinebowen79@gmail.com or realtalkjustforwomen@gmail.com
VALUABLE RESOURCES
Be a guest!  - https://misscheryl.com/podcast/podcast-guest-form/
FREE E-BOOK - http://promos.misscheryl.com/
CHECK OUT MY BOOKS - https://misscheryl.com/features/book-launch-career-in-the-beauty-industry/
ABOUT THE HOST
Cheryl Thibault is a visionary, entrepreneur, multi-business owner, educator, influencer, and game changer in the beauty industry. A student of life, who will never stop growing and learning. She is assertive and an uncompromising beauty professional, and has been for over 40 years.  As a long time founder/owner of beauty spas and education centres since 1981, 
An Author, Co-Author and currently penning a series of books dedicated to telling her life story, overcoming struggles, and gaining life and career success. She is a true trailblazer and actively integrates love, understanding and compassion into all areas of her life as she influences thousands around the world to carry that forward.
CONTACT METHODS
Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/cheryltbo/
Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/cherylthibault1/
Linkedin - https://www.linkedin.com/in/cherylthibault/
Podcast website:  www.thewalkoflifestories.com

On this bonus episode of The Walk Of Life podcast, Cheryl Thibault is joined by Christine Bowen about her journey as well as her chapter in the book ‘Disrupting The Status Quo’. KEY TAKEAWAYS
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">A lot of people don’t realise how vulnerable kids can be, we often think that kids aren’t around and listening – believe me, they are! When I was around 14 years old my aunts were in the kitchen discussing me, but not in a positive manner. They were saying that I wasn’t going to amount to anything and I may not even graduate high school. I never thought these things would come out of the mouths of people who say they love you.</li>
<li aria-level="1">I had been given away by my mother when I was 2 weeks old to be raised by another family. So, I’d already gone through rejection and abandonment, so you cling to those who you think love you and those you think you can trust. After the hurt and thinking “what’s so bad about me?” After hearing them speak about me, I wanted to deny it, but I couldn’t because they were right there. I had to digest that at that age and I eventually got to a place of saying “no, that does not define who I am”, and I set out to make them a liar.</li>
<li aria-level="1">This catapulted me to even where I am today, as a breast cancer survivor. When you get a diagnosis that doesn’t define who you are, you have to make the choice of are you going to fight or are you going to give up? I fought then, I’m cancer free since 2010, I refuse to believe anything else and I refuse to believe that I couldn’t be somebody, that I wasn’t worth having a company, being a director, going to get my Master’s Degree, now working on my Doctoral Degree. I couldn’t allow the negativity to suffocate me to where I couldn’t be living on purpose.</li>
<li aria-level="1">There is purpose in each one of us. You have a purpose, you have a desire. If you say you’re an artist, go be an artist, go take a class, there are free classes, we’re out of excuses as to why we can’t live, why we can’t live with purpose, why we can’t be happy. Some of us are living, but we’re not actually living. We’re living to survive, we’re living for other people, we’re living to feed our families, but you're not actually living and able to enjoy life. That’s where I am now.</li>
</ul>
BEST MOMENTS ‘Don’t give up and allow negativity to hinder you or keep you from moving forward with the things you want to do with your life. People can say what they want to but it’s you who has to take the action. Are you going to do what you’re called to do or are you going to go ahead and give them what they’re actually thinking about your worth?’ ‘It’s unfortunate, but a lot of times those closest to you are the ones that will hurt you.’ ‘Too often we just settle, in how to pay the bills and even in love. We don’t think that we can do better or that we’re worth more. We’ve got to stop settling and start moving and living on purpose.’ ‘I’m living my purpose by the writing that I’m doing. I never saw myself as an author, I didn’t even like writing papers in class. But when I begin to write what’s in my heart, what’s downloaded in me to write, I can’t stop writing. Then, when you see what you’ve created and other people can read it and it impacts their life, you now know this is your purpose.’ ABOUT THE GUEST Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/christine.bowen.313">https://www.facebook.com/christine.bowen.313</a> Email: <a href="mailto:christinebowen79@gmail.com">christinebowen79@gmail.com</a> or <a href="mailto:realtalkjustforwomen@gmail.com">realtalkjustforwomen@gmail.com</a> VALUABLE RESOURCES Be a guest!  - <a href="https://misscheryl.com/podcast/podcast-guest-form/">https://misscheryl.com/podcast/podcast-guest-form/</a> FREE E-BOOK - <a href="http://promos.misscheryl.com/">http://promos.misscheryl.com/</a> CHECK OUT MY BOOKS - <a href="https://misscheryl.com/features/book-launch-career-in-the-beauty-industry/">https://misscheryl.com/features/book-launch-career-in-the-beauty-industry/</a> ABOUT THE HOST Cheryl Thibault is a visionary, entrepreneur, multi-business owner, educator, influencer, and game changer in the beauty industry. A student of life, who will never stop growing and learning. She is assertive and an uncompromising beauty professional, and has been for over 40 years.  As a long time founder/owner of beauty spas and education centres since 1981, An Author, Co-Author and currently penning a series of books dedicated to telling her life story, overcoming struggles, and gaining life and career success. She is a true trailblazer and actively integrates love, understanding and compassion into all areas of her life as she influences thousands around the world to carry that forward. CONTACT METHODS Facebook - <a href="https://www.facebook.com/cheryltbo/">https://www.facebook.com/cheryltbo/</a> Instagram - <a href="https://www.instagram.com/cherylthibault1/">https://www.instagram.com/cherylthibault1/</a> Linkedin - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/cherylthibault/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/cherylthibault/</a> Podcast website:  <a href="http://www.thewalkoflifestories.com">www.thewalkoflifestories.com</a>

On this bonus episode of The Walk Of Life podcast, Cheryl Thibault is joined by Christine Bowen about her journey as well as her chapter in the book ‘Disrupting The Status Quo’.

The Walk Of Life With Christine Bowen

On this bonus episode of The Walk Of Life podcast, Cheryl Thibault is joined by Ramona Rogers to discuss her journey as well as a chapter she wrote entitled ‘Life’s Prisons Cannot Hold Me’.
KEY TAKEAWAYS
Over the years – the last half a century or so – I’ve learned that a lot of the time you don’t even know what you’re capable of, life comes at you, you don’t know how to deal with it. Learning how to cope with obstacles and challenges is part of the journey.
When I was 4-years-old I had a twin brother and I remember a day when my mother took us to the doctor for a check-up. I was sitting on the floor playing with some toys when the doctor came out saying something to my mother. I didn’t recall it for years, but what he told her was that one twin would have intellectual properties and the other wouldn’t be sufficient in that arena. My mother asked him which one that was and he pointed at me. He counted me out before I even had an opportunity to start life. That was reiterated by kids on my street when we’d play outside, I’d hear “she’s a cute little girl but she’s dumb”. That set my mindset for years, I didn’t push the envelope because I felt I was incapable. 
I went through postpartum depression after having my second daughter. If you’ve ever been through depression it’s debilitating, you can’t function, it takes your mindset, you can’t manoeuvre, there’s nothing you can do about it. When I finally got to feeling better, 6 months later, I looked at my daughters and decided something’s gonna change, my daughters won’t life the limited life I’m living and life changed
On the journey you grow because you’re learning and being challenged, it pushes the resilient part of you and pushes you to the next thing because you have to figure it out and think differently in order to get past the particular obstacle or challenge that’s in front of you at the time. A lot of the time we don’t think of it that way, we think about it as “why is this happening to me?”, but when you’re heading to that next elevation of life there are some challenges there, but they’re all there to help you grow and get you to that next level.

BEST MOMENTS
‘If you desire to live you’ll find a way to live.’
‘When I had my two girls watching me, like I watched my mother, I started pushing the envelope, trying new things. I became a four-time author, entrepreneur, etc. I started opening doors and more doors opened after that and it raised my self-esteem.’
‘When you do nothing, you get nothing.’
‘Where there’s no struggle there’s no strength.’
ABOUT THE GUEST
Ramona Rogers’ journey as an entrepreneur and coach began many years ago in her home town of Tulsa Oklahoma where she watched her parents and grandparents own and operate their own businesses. As a child she received hands-on experience working in many of those family entities. As one of the youngest of eight, she always went above and beyond the call of duty to prove her abilities. This is how she established her strong work ethic. Her mother stayed home to raise her and her siblings while they were young. At home her mother enforced the importance of order, discipline and cleanliness while her father exhibited how to be hard working and versatile, working two or three jobs at a time to provide for the family. The characteristics her parents embodied and displayed throughout her childhood gave her the model that she needed to set and measure her own life by. Even with these models, Ramona struggled with low self-esteem and lacked confidence in herself for a number of years. It wasn’t until she was an adult that she discovered her true self as well as her purpose in life. Drawing from the traits her parents modelled during her childhood helped her establish high standards, resiliency, creativity, and versatility, Ramona has used her skills to positively impact the lives of others.
Website: https://ramonarogers.com/
Socials: @iamramonarogers
VALUABLE RESOURCES
Be a guest!  - https://misscheryl.com/podcast/podcast-guest-form/
FREE E-BOOK - http://promos.misscheryl.com/
CHECK OUT MY BOOKS - https://misscheryl.com/features/book-launch-career-in-the-beauty-industry/
ABOUT THE HOST
Cheryl Thibault is a visionary, entrepreneur, multi-business owner, educator, influencer, and game changer in the beauty industry. A student of life, who will never stop growing and learning. She is assertive and an uncompromising beauty professional, and has been for over 40 years.  As a long time founder/owner of beauty spas and education centres since 1981, 
An Author, Co-Author and currently penning a series of books dedicated to telling her life story, overcoming struggles, and gaining life and career success. She is a true trailblazer and actively integrates love, understanding and compassion into all areas of her life as she influences thousands around the world to carry that forward.
CONTACT METHODS
Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/cheryltbo/
Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/cherylthibault1/
Linkedin - https://www.linkedin.com/in/cherylthibault/
Podcast website:  www.thewalkoflifestories.com

On this bonus episode of The Walk Of Life podcast, Cheryl Thibault is joined by Ramona Rogers to discuss her journey as well as a chapter she wrote entitled ‘Life’s Prisons Cannot Hold Me’. KEY TAKEAWAYS
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">Over the years – the last half a century or so – I’ve learned that a lot of the time you don’t even know what you’re capable of, life comes at you, you don’t know how to deal with it. Learning how to cope with obstacles and challenges is part of the journey.</li>
<li aria-level="1">When I was 4-years-old I had a twin brother and I remember a day when my mother took us to the doctor for a check-up. I was sitting on the floor playing with some toys when the doctor came out saying something to my mother. I didn’t recall it for years, but what he told her was that one twin would have intellectual properties and the other wouldn’t be sufficient in that arena. My mother asked him which one that was and he pointed at me. He counted me out before I even had an opportunity to start life. That was reiterated by kids on my street when we’d play outside, I’d hear “she’s a cute little girl but she’s dumb”. That set my mindset for years, I didn’t push the envelope because I felt I was incapable. </li>
<li aria-level="1">I went through postpartum depression after having my second daughter. If you’ve ever been through depression it’s debilitating, you can’t function, it takes your mindset, you can’t manoeuvre, there’s nothing you can do about it. When I finally got to feeling better, 6 months later, I looked at my daughters and decided something’s gonna change, my daughters won’t life the limited life I’m living and life changed</li>
<li aria-level="1">On the journey you grow because you’re learning and being challenged, it pushes the resilient part of you and pushes you to the next thing because you have to figure it out and think differently in order to get past the particular obstacle or challenge that’s in front of you at the time. A lot of the time we don’t think of it that way, we think about it as “why is this happening to me?”, but when you’re heading to that next elevation of life there are some challenges there, but they’re all there to help you grow and get you to that next level.</li>
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BEST MOMENTS ‘If you desire to live you’ll find a way to live.’ ‘When I had my two girls watching me, like I watched my mother, I started pushing the envelope, trying new things. I became a four-time author, entrepreneur, etc. I started opening doors and more doors opened after that and it raised my self-esteem.’ ‘When you do nothing, you get nothing.’ ‘Where there’s no struggle there’s no strength.’ ABOUT THE GUEST Ramona Rogers’ journey as an entrepreneur and coach began many years ago in her home town of Tulsa Oklahoma where she watched her parents and grandparents own and operate their own businesses. As a child she received hands-on experience working in many of those family entities. As one of the youngest of eight, she always went above and beyond the call of duty to prove her abilities. This is how she established her strong work ethic. Her mother stayed home to raise her and her siblings while they were young. At home her mother enforced the importance of order, discipline and cleanliness while her father exhibited how to be hard working and versatile, working two or three jobs at a time to provide for the family. The characteristics her parents embodied and displayed throughout her childhood gave her the model that she needed to set and measure her own life by. Even with these models, Ramona struggled with low self-esteem and lacked confidence in herself for a number of years. It wasn’t until she was an adult that she discovered her true self as well as her purpose in life. Drawing from the traits her parents modelled during her childhood helped her establish high standards, resiliency, creativity, and versatility, Ramona has used her skills to positively impact the lives of others. Website: <a href="https://ramonarogers.com/">https://ramonarogers.com/</a> Socials: @iamramonarogers VALUABLE RESOURCES Be a guest!  - <a href="https://misscheryl.com/podcast/podcast-guest-form/">https://misscheryl.com/podcast/podcast-guest-form/</a> FREE E-BOOK - <a href="http://promos.misscheryl.com/">http://promos.misscheryl.com/</a> CHECK OUT MY BOOKS - <a href="https://misscheryl.com/features/book-launch-career-in-the-beauty-industry/">https://misscheryl.com/features/book-launch-career-in-the-beauty-industry/</a> ABOUT THE HOST Cheryl Thibault is a visionary, entrepreneur, multi-business owner, educator, influencer, and game changer in the beauty industry. A student of life, who will never stop growing and learning. She is assertive and an uncompromising beauty professional, and has been for over 40 years.  As a long time founder/owner of beauty spas and education centres since 1981, An Author, Co-Author and currently penning a series of books dedicated to telling her life story, overcoming struggles, and gaining life and career success. She is a true trailblazer and actively integrates love, understanding and compassion into all areas of her life as she influences thousands around the world to carry that forward. CONTACT METHODS Facebook - <a href="https://www.facebook.com/cheryltbo/">https://www.facebook.com/cheryltbo/</a> Instagram - <a href="https://www.instagram.com/cherylthibault1/">https://www.instagram.com/cherylthibault1/</a> Linkedin - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/cherylthibault/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/cherylthibault/</a> Podcast website:  <a href="http://www.thewalkoflifestories.com">www.thewalkoflifestories.com</a>

On this bonus episode of The Walk Of Life podcast, Cheryl Thibault is joined by Ramona Rogers to discuss her journey as well as a chapter she wrote entitled ‘Life’s Prisons Cannot Hold Me’.

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