Pianist and singer Diane Schuur and singer Jonathan Karrant have a conversation with Joe about Schuur's career, recording music together, and Karrant's latest album, "Full Circle," which is a tribute to Schuur.

Then, Joe sits down with trumpeter and film score composer Mark Isham to talk about how composing for film differs from writing songs for an album, how music and art can be joyful and still be considered art, plus "At The Carousel Club," Isham's new EP.