In this special episode, Ben sits with Tino McFarland, CEO of McFarland Construction, and Michelle Rockwell, Founding Member & Licensed Customs Broker of Sheltered International, for a roundtable discussion in Florida. They discuss the state of small business in America and, through the lens of commercial real estate and freight forwarding, share the realities of working through labor shortages and tariffs, as well as how inﬂation and policy changes affect crucial staffing, budgeting, and operational considerations. Listen in as they discuss how small business owners can become more unshakeable in the face of uncertainty.

In this special episode, Ben sits with Tino McFarland, CEO of McFarland Construction, and Michelle Rockwell, Founding Member &amp; Licensed Customs Broker of Sheltered International, for a roundtable discussion in Florida. They discuss the state of small business in America and, through the lens of commercial real estate and freight forwarding, share the realities of working through labor shortages and tariffs, as well as how inﬂation and policy changes affect crucial staffing, budgeting, and operational considerations. Listen in as they discuss how small business owners can become more unshakeable in the face of uncertainty.

The Unshakeables podcast from Chase for Business and iHeartMedia's Ruby Studio dives into the make-or-break moments that changed everything for small business owners. Those who stand firm in their resolve have a special name. We call them The Unshakeables. Join Ben Walter, CEO of Chase for Business, and a lineup of special cohosts as they speak with real small business owners across America. Hear real stories from real people behind the small businesses that power their communities every day. The Unshakeables is an award-winning podcast, having won Gold at the 2025 ANA B2 Awards in the Podcast and Industry Sector Spotlight categories. 

The speakers’ opinions belong to them and may differ from opinions of J.P. Morgan Chase & Co. and its affiliates. Views presented on this podcast are those of the speakers; they are as of the podcast release date and they may not materialize. JPMorgan Chase Bank, N.A. Member FDIC. ©2025 JPMorgan Chase & Co.

The Unshakeables podcast from Chase for Business and iHeartMedia's Ruby Studio dives into the make-or-break moments that changed everything for small business owners. Those who stand firm in their resolve have a special name. We call them The Unshakeables. Join Ben Walter, CEO of Chase for Business, and a lineup of special cohosts as they speak with real small business owners across America. Hear real stories from real people behind the small businesses that power their communities every day. The Unshakeables is an award-winning podcast, having won Gold at the 2025 ANA B2 Awards in the Podcast and Industry Sector Spotlight categories.&nbsp;
The speakers&rsquo; opinions belong to them and may differ from opinions of&nbsp;J.P. Morgan Chase &amp; Co. and its affiliates. Views presented on this podcast are those of the speakers; they are as of the podcast release date and they may not materialize. JPMorgan Chase Bank, N.A. Member FDIC. &copy;2025 JPMorgan Chase &amp; Co.

The Unshakeables

The State of Small Business: Holding Strong Amid Changes

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