After a sudden health crisis rocked his family, Patrick Hall made an unexpected move: he bought a flower shop. Elan Flowers wasn’t just a creative venture—it was a lifeline. For Patrick, becoming a small business owner was the only way he could guarantee healthcare, financial stability, and a sense of control in a moment that felt anything but secure. 

 

In this episode, Ben Walter is joined by Dr. Laurie Santos, Yale professor and host of “The Happiness Lab,” to talk about how stability, risk, and security shape our sense of wellbeing. They’re also joined by Dan Mendelson, CEO of Morgan Health, and Stacy Edgar, CEO and Co-Founder of Venteur, to explore the real-world challenges of accessing health insurance as a small business owner—and what it takes to navigate a system that often leaves entrepreneurs behind.

After a sudden health crisis rocked his family, Patrick Hall made an unexpected move: he bought a flower shop. Elan Flowers wasn&rsquo;t just a creative venture&mdash;it was a lifeline. For Patrick, becoming a small business owner was the only way he could guarantee healthcare, financial stability, and a sense of control in a moment that felt anything but secure.&nbsp;
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In this episode, Ben Walter is joined by Dr. Laurie Santos, Yale professor and host of &ldquo;The Happiness Lab,&rdquo; to talk about how stability, risk, and security shape our sense of wellbeing. They&rsquo;re also joined by Dan Mendelson, CEO of Morgan Health, and Stacy Edgar, CEO and Co-Founder of Venteur, to explore the real-world challenges of accessing health insurance as a small business owner&mdash;and what it takes to navigate a system that often leaves entrepreneurs behind.

The Unshakeables podcast from Chase for Business and iHeartMedia's Ruby Studio dives into the make-or-break moments that changed everything for small business owners. Those who stand firm in their resolve have a special name. We call them The Unshakeables. Join Ben Walter, CEO of Chase for Business, and a lineup of special cohosts as they speak with real small business owners across America. Hear real stories from real people behind the small businesses that power their communities every day. The Unshakeables is an award-winning podcast, having won Gold at the 2025 ANA B2 Awards in the Podcast and Industry Sector Spotlight categories. 

The speakers’ opinions belong to them and may differ from opinions of J.P. Morgan Chase & Co. and its affiliates. Views presented on this podcast are those of the speakers; they are as of the podcast release date and they may not materialize. JPMorgan Chase Bank, N.A. Member FDIC. ©2025 JPMorgan Chase & Co.

The Unshakeables podcast from Chase for Business and iHeartMedia's Ruby Studio dives into the make-or-break moments that changed everything for small business owners. Those who stand firm in their resolve have a special name. We call them The Unshakeables. Join Ben Walter, CEO of Chase for Business, and a lineup of special cohosts as they speak with real small business owners across America. Hear real stories from real people behind the small businesses that power their communities every day. The Unshakeables is an award-winning podcast, having won Gold at the 2025 ANA B2 Awards in the Podcast and Industry Sector Spotlight categories.&nbsp;
The speakers&rsquo; opinions belong to them and may differ from opinions of&nbsp;J.P. Morgan Chase &amp; Co. and its affiliates. Views presented on this podcast are those of the speakers; they are as of the podcast release date and they may not materialize. JPMorgan Chase Bank, N.A. Member FDIC. &copy;2025 JPMorgan Chase &amp; Co.

The Unshakeables

Insuring a Family's Future: Elan Flowers

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