Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are back in the United Kingdom—but is their return really about the children, or is something much bigger happening behind the scenes?

Tudor Dixon is joined by British journalist and Outspoken host Dan Wootton for an explosive conversation about Harry and Meghan’s reported return to the UK, the state of their marriage, and what could come next for the Duke and Duchess of Sussex.

Wootton argues that Harry and Meghan have been living through an increasingly troubled marriage and explains why their move could mark the beginning of an effective “trial separation,” with Harry focused on life in Britain and Meghan potentially spending significant time back in Montecito. The two also examine what the move could mean for Archie and Lilibet, Harry’s relationship with King Charles, and the possibility of a future custody battle.

They also dig into Harry’s fractured relationship with Prince William and Catherine, Princess of Wales; whether the Royal Family could ever welcome Harry back; Meghan’s future without the monarchy; and why Wootton believes Prince William could take a much tougher approach to Harry and Meghan when he becomes king.

Plus, Tudor and Dan revisit the infamous Oprah interview, Harry’s memoir Spare, the brothers’ longtime rivalry, Meghan’s relationship with royal staff, and how Harry went from one of Britain’s most popular royals to one of its most controversial figures.

Could Harry and Meghan ultimately divorce? Can Harry repair his relationship with the Royal Family—or have too many lines already been crossed? And could their return to Britain set the stage for the next major royal family showdown?