The Truth with Lisa BootheThe Truth with Lisa Boothe: Why Timing Matters in the Election with Jessica Anderson
In this episode, Lisa and Jessica Anderson from the Sentinel Action Fund discuss the importance of early voting and strategies to engage low propensity voters for the upcoming election. Lisa emphasizes the need to support Donald Trump and Republican candidates, citing perceived persecution and the importance of voting. Jessica explains the Sentinel Action Fund's mission to encourage absentee voting and early participation, particularly in battleground states like Pennsylvania and Nevada. They highlight the challenges posed by changes in voting laws due to COVID-19 and the significance of unreturned mail ballots in determining election outcomes. The Truth with Lisa Boothe is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network - new episodes debut every Monday & Thursday.
Go vote, Go vote for Donald Trump. This is a man who has taken a bullet for you in this country. This is a man who's been persecuted.
They've tried to.
Throw him in jail on multiple occasions. They've tried to bankrupt him. They've investigated him, they've slandered him, they've defamed him. They've gone after his family, they've gone after his friends, they've gone after the people who have worked for him. All you have to do is go and vote. That man's been through everything. All you have to do is go vote. It's simple, right now. What have Democrats called us this election cycle? What have they called Trump supporters this election cycle? We've been called fascist, We've been called Nazis. We've been called garbage, anti women, anti American. That the list goes on. In twenty sixteen, we were called the basket of deplorables and irredeemable. It's that old adage of when someone shows you who they are, believe them. At this point, why wouldn't you believe that the Democrat Party hates you? They've told us as much. That's not being hyperbolic, that's just the truth they've told us. Why would you want a party and a group of people who hate you to have power. And that's really what this is. To the Democrats, It's about power. They're drunk on power. They've controlled the White House for the past twelve out of sixteen years. They control the media, they control the bureaucracy, the deep state, they control Hollywood, they control most of big tech. And what do they do to those who are standing in the way. Well, Chuck Schumer gave the game away when he said that if you mess with the intelligence community, they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you. We've seen them do that to Donald Trump. We've seen them go after Elon Musk for daring to buy X and to make it free, to allow for freedom of speech. And mind you, this goes beyond them and earlier than that. And when we saw Obama's irs go after the Tea Party. We also saw during COVID, if you dare to not get vaccinated, they went after you. Right, you had nearly half of Democrats wanting to put the unvaccinated like me in government camps.
Remember, they were.
Saying that the unvaccinated, that your family shouldn't spend time with, you shouldn't have to be able to go. You shouldn't be able to go to the grocery store, have to be able to fly. These are people who are not deserving a power because of how grossly they wield it. And what if conservatives want, you know, what if Trump supporters want? What does Donald Trump want? Patriotism? That's what make America Great Again is about. It's about dreaming big, as he said, about wanting a better future, of wanting the American dream to be attainable again, of believing in the flag, not wanting to burn it, of wanting safe streets, safe communities, of wanting secure borders, of wanting inflation to be able to go down so you can buy a home, you know, and God forbid, be able to put food on the table without maxing out your credit cards, which has been a big problem in the United States. Of not wanting to send your son and daughter to war. It's about patriotism and the fact that the left and the Democrats and Kamala Harris hate that so much and reject making America great so much. Doesn't it tell you everything about their governing philosophy and their beliefs and their principles. The future is clearer right the trajectory.
Of this country.
We know where we're heading. Kamala Harris would just be doubling down on the same field of policies we're going to get from Donald Trump because we saw it, peace and prosperity. That's what we had. So, I mean, this is the clearest choice I think we've ever had ever in electoral history. Please, all you have to do is go out and vote for Donald Trump. I've already voted early. I've voted for Donald Trump, voted Republicans down the ballot here in Florida. I also voted No. One Amendments three and Amendment four. It's not that hard. All you have to do is go out and vote, all right. So, now getting into what this episode is going to be about today, there's all sorts of pulling all over the place, and at this point it's pretty irrelevant being this close to election day. But what do we have that we can go off of is early voting data and mail in ballot data. That's probably the best barometer of what could happen on election day. There's been this whole argument by a lot of people in the media, but it's sort of a defeatist mentality that somehow because Republicans have been doing historically well with early voting, that it's going to cannibalize our election day vote. But I've got someone on the show who is saying, no, that's not going to happen because a lot of these early voters, a lot of these people who are returning mail in ballots, they're low propensity voters. These are new voters, which means that our reliable election day voters are still out there and are still going to go to the polls. There's even a lot of low propensity voters that could go out to the polls. That means that we have enough Republicans in this country to get the job done in the battleground states that we need.
And why does she know this.
My next guest, Well, because her entire mission at the Sentinel Action Fund is to focus on early voting and low propensity voters, and she's been doing so since last spring, So she's got the data to back up what she's saying, and she's been on the ground working on all of this, focusing on a key battleground states and trying to drive out and turn out the vote. So we're going to talk to her today about why that's important what she's been doing and what the data is showing her about what's going to happen.
Tomorrow on election Day.
So stay tuned for Jessica Anderson with the Sentinel Action Fund. Well, Jessica Anderson, it's great to have you on the show.
I know that, you know, we're.
All kind of in this waiting game for election Day with you know, the stress and trying to figure out what's going to happen, but you probably have a better idea than anyone at this point. So I'm looking forward to having this conversation. Appreciate your time.
Absolutely, it's great to be here and team minus one day till our lives go back to normal.
I know I was saying, I feel like a you know, a keyboard warrior because I work in the media. You know, I'm no longer working on these campaigns, so I'm like this like anxiousness of feeling like, you know, what can I do? Am I doing enough?
You know?
Because it's an important election, which is probably why you started the Sentinal Action Fund in the first place. I guess kind of like big picture take us through, like what is it, why did you start it?
What's the mission? Absolutely so Central Action Fund.
We founded it last year, coming off of the governor's race and helping Governor Younkin in Virginia on the state races, and what we wanted to do was specifically target absentee ballot early vote heading into what's now one of the most consequential elections I think of our time, with a focus on building out a durable GOP Senate majority. And you know, at different parts of this year that looked like having a Senate to be the insurance policy if Biden was going to win. Obviously, then that shifted to Harris and now feel pretty strongly that the GOOP Senate majority will be a partner to President Trump in the White House. And to do that, we set out to do two things. First was to change the culture around absentee early vote from you know, opposition, skepticism, little antagonism that we felt in the party, to do embrace for candidates up and down the ballot, to really embrace that absentee ballot early vote was the way to properly engage low propensity voters, and we could do it in a way that was safe and secure, that emphasized the convenience, and then still held true to our beliefs for election integrity, knowing that one we win, we're able to actually go in and make election integrity reforms, but we have to play by the rules as they exist.
So that was that was one goal for the year.
And then the second was to engage and turn out these low propensity voters, ensuring that our candidates entered election day in the most aggressive and strong position as possible without cannibalizing or rescheduling election day voters. You know, this is not simply an effort to rearrange the deck chairs on the Titanic, right. This is about bringing in low propensity voters to the election that might not have voted. And Lisa, you're so good on the show, I know you're gonna ask me next how to define low propensity voters.
I'll just tell you question. I knew it was coming.
We look at every voter that's on the voter five nationwide and then broken down by a state, is put into buckets based on their propensity, and propensity is just a fancy word for how often they've voted. So they are a registered Republican, which is really important. These are not new registrants. They're a registered Republican and they have either never voted the last four elections, so they're a zero, they voted one of the last four, so there are one two of the last four. So there are two, three of the last four, three four of the last four. So a consistent voter you me many of the people that are listening four out of four consistent voter of the last election. So low propensity is really defined by those that have voted zero, one or two of the last four elections. And that's about the right cutoff. The four out of four voter. They don't need a lot of encouragement to vote. They're going to vote. We don't need to be spending money to turn them out. The three out of four they may be a swing voter. They may have stayed home in twenty sixteen or twenty two because of you know, not liking Trump's tweets or whatever, and there's different organizations that target those three out of four's. We really wanted to look at the zero, ones and twos and how to turn them out in the absent to early vote again, so our candidates were in a super strong and aggressive position heading into election day.
We've got more with Jessica but we've got to take a quick commercial break. How is courting and I'll use the word courting instead of targeting because it just it sounds lovelier. So, you know, how is courting low propensity voters different than you know, your registered voters that you know we're going to go out every election cycle.
Yeah, that's another good question.
So what we found specifically alongside Governor Younkin and the RSLC and the team that was working in Virginia in twenty twenty one, was that to court and turn out low propensity voters, we need upwards of thirty individual touches for them. So normal political science would tell you that an election day voter needs anywhere from three to seven reminders. And those reminders can be a text message, they could be a billboard, they could be a television ad, a door knock, things like that.
But they don't need they don't need a lot. They need a light touch.
You know, if they're in a state where you have to request an absent tee ballot, you need a reminder before the apps and tee ballot request deadline goes through to get your you know, to get your request in that sort of thing. Very basic for a four out of four voter. For these zeros, ones and twos, you need a whole program. And when I say thirty touches, that could mean every single type of vertical or channel to reach out to these voters. So text messages, digital ads, a door knock from volunteers that look like them, talk like them, are from their community, phone calls, pieces of mail. So you use the full suite of really marketing, if you will, to create this echo chamber around the voter, which frankly, you know they're either going to be annoyed, right.
That that they's so final voting, Yeah, exactly, They're either going to be annoyed, uh, and then therefore they're going to vote because they know that they'll stop being bothered when they get their vote cast. And actually some of our messaging says that are you tired of getting text messages from me?
Vote today?
Right?
And it works.
But the beauty of this sort of program is you you wrap around the voter, and you you wrap around them before the onslaught of kind of the election season of Red Team Blue team, and you do it in the summer and the spring before an election, and that's when you talk about how to vote, you talk about where to vote, and you kind of build in we call it educating like the education piece. We build in the education piece with these voters before they add start and before it's like taken over our lives. And then by the time you get to a Memorial Day, you've already established trusts with the voter with the hope that they know where to vote, they know how to vote, and now you talk to them.
About why to vote.
So it's a whole it's a different program. You have to start early. We've started in all of our target states actually in April and May. That way, we have a huge runway to get these thirty touches in using the multi channels, and in a really complicated state like Pennsylvania with the Senate race there, we're actually upwards of sixty individual touches now, which is I think pretty incredible from the coalition work that's been done in the state to turn out these voters and it's paying off.
And your states are Nevada, Pennsylvania, Ohio, and Montana that you've been focused on.
That's right, those are our four states and we chose them for kind of two reasons. One, we wanted to fill some of the operational gaps. Obviously, Montana and Ohio are two states that are not presidential battlegrounds. President Trump will win both of those states handily, and we needed to have a concerted specific effort for the Senate candidate there. Pennsylvania, Nevada both being overlaps that are battleground presidential and battleground Senate. So there's a lot of really good synergy there. But the reason why I also liked Montana and Ohio was in both of those cases, John Tester and Montana and shared Brown in Ohio. These are entrench Democrats, and these are the last remaining statewide Democrats holding office in a basically red state. So they're the last holdouts for the Dems. If you remember going back to like twenty ten and twenty twelve during the Tea Party wave, when we were looking at those blue dog Democrats, Democrats remember like Mike McIntyre and Heath Schuler and Larry Still in North Carolina, all those names, right, those were the last remaining of the blue dogs.
Well Sheriff was at the NRCC during twenty ten. So Macley, yes, yes, it was a huge priority.
And this is the same sort of analogy today where John Tester and Jared Brown are the last remaining statewide Democrats to hold those positions statewide in states that are basically already read.
You know, and we've had on the show, We've had all of these candidates on the on the podcast. I think that there should be a lot of credit due to the INTERSC for recruiting just like really top notch candidates. I mean, I've been like John, my producer, and I have been so impressed with the Senate candidates that we've had on the show, and also Hong Kow in Virginia. I mean, there's just so many of them are just really qualified, really great candidates. You know, I wanted to ask you, I guess walk us through a little bit.
You know.
You know, part of the reason why you know, we need stuff like this with what you're doing with early voting and low propensity voters is because of the changes from COVID COVID era election changes, particularly to mail in ballot and just the expansion of early voting throughout the country. Kind of walk us through about like how that has changed a lot elections, how it has made campaigns jobs more difficult, you know, sort of walk us through about what that means.
Yeah, so COVID really busted up the election integrity landscape in a way that we're all still feeling today. They called it COVID Convenience Laws. So the goal at the state level in many states in twenty twenty was to use the you know, the hysteria around COVID to lessen whatever election integrity measures were in place. And so you saw a lot of states move to one hundred percent mail out ballots. So that meant that no longer were you the voter responsible for requesting your absentee ballot, but instead the state sent it to you automatically. We saw this actually in Montana. Funny enough, they did they had a mandatory mail out and then they actually peeled it back, and so they pulled.
It back after twenty twenty two.
In twenty twenty four, we have to remind Montana voters that this is the first time you have to request your appsentee ballot in the last two cycles.
You don't just get it automatically in the mail.
So changes, you know, they're very technical, Lisa, they're not things that like I would say, the average voter is like following along and voters are habitual, like they tend to do the things, They tend to vote the same way that they voted before, and if there's a change in the law, they may not be aware of it. And so from a campaign standpoint, we really have to go, you know, kind of above and beyond to make sure voters know their rights, that they know the rules that govern how they can vote, and that they know the deadlines. You look at a state like Pennsylvania that used COVID to just completely splinter the election integrity framework in the state. It's got, you know, basically sixty something counties in the state of Pennsylvania, and every single county votes different and they govern how the election is operate, including how many days of early vote by the county. So it's not even a statewide rule in PA. It's a county by county. So imagine if you're in a neighborhood and eleventh Street is one county and twelfth Street is another, you actually have different rules that govern how you vote in your neighborhood, which is crazy. So COVID changed a lot of things, but I think what it did in the long run is it woke up state lawmakers and governors to the reality that they need to do their part to uphold election integrity. We want to make it easy to vote and hard to cheat. And that became, I think the guiding principle that you saw from so many state lawmakers from twenty twenty two till today, where there's hundreds of new laws that are on the books that provide security around dropboxes, that look at the voter roles and cleaning them up, make sure that making sure that the HHS and the DMV and the morgue in the state, that all these state offices are like talking to each other and taking a look at the voter rules. And you saw I think some great examples, even Virginia with Governor Younkin, you know, working so hard to make sure that illegals can't vote in the state and then winning that case all the way up to the Supreme Court. And so all of this attention I think that's been brought to the management of elections is actually a direct result of the changes that were made over COVID that just opened the waterfall. And then now you've got governors and state lawmakers doing their part for election integrity. And then we as an outside organization, we can come in and make sure that whatever the rules are you know, that will govern that cycle, that voters are aware of it so that they know how to vote, where to vote, and then we can talk.
About the issues at stake and make the case for why to vote, you know, for the Republican candidate.
And I think, you know, there's a lot of evidence to point to, you know, like, well one, it's like we might not like the game that's in front of us, but you know, you've got to play it to win. And I think part of the shift with even with Donald Trump, encouraging early voting has been significant and could potentially end up propelling him to victory on election Day. We've got more with Jessica, but first, this week marks one of the most consequential elections in our history, and we know that this critical time, the support of Americans like you means so much to the people of Israel, especially now this past year, not only have we seen the war ray John in the Holy Land, but we've also seen an alarming rise in anti Semitism. That's why I'm proud of partner with the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews.
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I think that part of the.
Story after election day, if people show up, you know who are telling you and telling the campaigns they are going to show up, is that about Republicans' efforts and success in bringing new voters into the fold. Kind of walk us through what you've seen in the early voting, which you know, the polls right now are pretty much irrelevant at this point.
It's really looking at the early voting data.
So walk us through, like what you have seen from Republicans' ability to bring in new voters, and let's kind of maybe focus on Nevada and Pennsylvania just because people are obviously very concerned with the presidential races there as well, or the presidential race as well.
Absolutely, and both of those states I think are really good examples of actually Republicans being aggressive for absentee ballot early vote and to do it in a way that would cut down the Democrats historical and really traditional early vote leads. So when you look at a state like Pennsylvania, we estimate right now that the Democrats lead going into election day from what it held in twenty twenty two has been reduced by about forty eight percent. And so what I mean by that is you have ballots that are returned for Democrats, ballots that are returned for the GOP. When you met those numbers, you have a historical Democratic advantage. So, going back to twenty twenty in Pennsylvania, Democrats had a one point four million ballot lead because of the early vote going into election day. In twenty twenty two, they had a seven hundred thousand vote Democratic advantage heading into election day. So when we hear these, you know, when we talk about the twenty twenty two midterms and we look at the doctor Oz race, you know, he had a seven hundred thousand vote deficit to make up with election day voters.
There was no way that that was going to happen.
There's not enough day of four out of four voters that could have could have closed that gap. So when we look at the role that cent Election Fund as well as the larger Pennsylvania coalition with Keystone Renewal and the RSLC now Elon's team in the state, I mean this is an all hands on deck moment to move as many low propensity voters to turn out in the election, to turn out in the early vote.
What we anticipate is that we will.
Land somewhere around a Democratic advantage of about three hundred and eighty maybe three hundred and eighty five thousand, and so that means McCormick tomorrow heading into election day is in the most aggressive position that any Republican has been.
Over the last two cycles.
And that I think will end up the story that we look at here because it then gives us, gives them strong a strong footing for early vote, and then you pair that with a robust election day turnout. More along the lines of twenty sixteen, where you've got the Trump momentum, Trump being at the top of the ballot drawing people out. And I think specifically in Pennsylvania, when you look at the numbers of just how we make up that three hundred and sixty eight thousand of the likely deficit, you look at both mail and early in person votes and where the candidates are today, but then you also look at a second set of numbers, which is the unreturned mail ballots that are sitting on kitchen counters today throughout the state of Pennsylvania that need to be returned today. And because of the rules in Pennsylvania, they can actually walk in to their voting location tomorrow and return their absentee ballot in person. And so I think that puts Pennsylvania as a really unique situation that the absentee early vote is going to be the difference maker, specifically when you look at that blue wall basically being cut in half heading into election day. And I think the second point in Pa and then we can talk about Nevada, is that the effort has been so robust in Pennsylvania to get absentee early voters that are low propensity voters that we've actually seen such a great response that we're not simply cannibalizing or rescheduling election date voters to vote early.
We're turning out new voters.
So when you look at Pennsylvania specifically by the numbers, you see that we've got a huge amount forty six percent that are not election day voters that are turning out. And I think that's a real testament to the program working and the ability for people to vote for the first time or the second time in the last four years, and they're doing it, and they're doing it through the absentee ballot early vote process. Now, of course there's going to be natural movement that an election day voter, you know, like myself, I voted election day the last few cycles that I've been able to vote, but this year I chose to vote early.
Well, that's not a bad thing. It's not a bad thing if.
You vote early, But specifically for those low propensity voters, it's probably the only way we're going to get them because they're busy and they're likely to turn around if the line is long, or if their childcare falls through or their job or whatever, and so you really have to open the aperture.
For them to be able to vote.
Similar situations going on in Nevada and I think it's worth really digging in on the numbers here too.
We see and we've seen.
An incredible response in Nevada, and I think the governor deserves a lot of credit for the work that he's done on the election integrity front.
And also to to.
Basically put the Harry Reid machine that's usually ran the ground game in Nevada, you know, he's really been able to match that. And so you're not only going against kind of the ghost of Harry Reid, if you will, but also the culinary unions and the larger union footprint that's in Clark County. I mean, it's a huge infrastructure to try to tackle. And to Sam Brown's credit, who's the candidate running in the Senate today, we have him up fifty four thousand early in person votes as of this weekend. He's behind on the mail votes. So when those two net out your early in person votes and your mail votes, we expect that he'll be that he stays at a thirty three hundred ballot GOP advantage. Now that number might seem really small, Lisa, and it totally is. But remember the Nevada Senate election in twenty twenty two was decided by seventy nine hundred votes. So these are these are really tight races in Nevada where literally every single ballot that's collected and cured and harvested is going to matter, is going to make a difference. I also think for Nevada, you've got an incredible amount of early of early voters that are first time voters. Some of these voters are could be new transplants that have moved into Nevada from California after COVID, which is also I think something interesting in the data. So of the four hundred and three thousand votes that have been cast, we think ballots returned for Brown at this point, one hundred and eighty six thousand of them are low props. And so I think that tells also a good story that there's not this election day cannibalization but really.
Bringing in new voters.
And of course Nevada is worth mentioning that it's a totally different setup than Pennsylvania or some of these other battlegrounds because everybody in Nevada automatically is mailed a ballot, and so there's really no difference between analyzing unreturned ballots versus ballots returned it's statistically insignificant.
In Nevada.
You really have to look at what the early in person vote, the mail vote, and then you rack those all up to get these numbers, which put Sam Brown in a very aggressive posture heading into election day, and I think ultimately we'll put President Trump over the finish line to win in Nevada.
And what's significant about this for those at home is, you know, Republicans don't lead in the early vote, right so to be leading in Nevada, I think it's the first time in the states, in the state for Republicans to be leading, or even in Pennsylvania, for Republicans to be able to cut that early vote in mail in ballot deficit by as much as they have. That's significant. And then the other significant point you made is that you know, there's this a lot of talk about because Republicans have been excelling in early vote, Well, that just means that we don't have enough in the tank. We don't have enough Republicans they're going to be able to turn out on election day to get us to victory. But what you're saying is no, because a significant portion of this early vote, of the early return mail in ballots. They're low propensity voters, which means that we still have enough in the tank of you know, our regular voters, the ones that show up every election day, or even of some of these new voters you don't tend to vote. There's enough of them that you're aware of that can get out and show up and win. And I think you had made a point to me the other day. You know, so in twenty twenty, Biden had an edge of you know, eighty five hundred votes in Pennsylvania. And how many unreturned mail in ballots are there right now.
In Pennsylvania, right now, sitting on kitchen counters, you know, statewide, there's over one hundred and sixty one thousand unreturned mail in ballots.
So that would have made the difference of the election in twenty twenty if so. Basically, the whole gist of this is is we have the votes, we have the people. The numbers look good. You know, people like Jessica have done their jobs. The Trump campaign's done, you know, their job. They're still doing their job. The McCormick campaign in Pennsylvania are doing their jobs. Sam Brown's doing his drop right. So like all you have to do if you're listening to this is a vote which is simple. Or in Pennsylvania just go return your ballot or Nevada just go eat it, right. So I mean, it's not that hard, like all you got to do is vote, and the numbers are there and we can.
Win, absolutely, and it's not too late, right and in a lot of places you can still vote today early, and then you can be the first in line tomorrow nowhere to go and be ready with your plan. And I think if we have a strong election day turn out tomorrow that's more in line with the twenty sixteen turnout numbers, then you're looking at President Trump in the White House and a GOP Senate majority that is his partner.
And how early on tomorrow do you think we will have a good idea of you know what we're going to learn on election night?
Oh that's a tough one.
The governor of Pennsylvania had an interview over the weekend where he was committed to committed at least over the weekend. So maybe this gets rolled back Democratic governor, but Governor Shapiro committed that they were going to they were going to count through the night and not stop. And so I think that's really important. People don't need a break, right, you can slide other people in. There's plenty of people to help count ballots, and so I think if Pennsylvania can commit to counting all the way through and not taking a break, that's going to be critical. I think the fact that you've got so many battleground states that are on East coast time also helps North Carolina, Georgia, Pennsylvania, all states that I think are going to be counting through the night. And then as you move west and you look at Wisconsin, Michigan, Montana for the Senate race, Nevada for both, Arizona for both, you know, that's when I think stuff trickles into the next day. The big outlier that we just don't know is if it's if it's going to be close, both for the presidential and the Senate. Nevada's got a frustrating law that's in place that could end up at the Supreme Court. It's not yet. It's a state law that's been upheld, but it basically allows that ballots that are ballots can be counted up to three days after election day. And so if it's a tight race, then I could see it I could see Nevada take advantage of all three of those days right with they're counting. But if it's not tough, if it's not tight and it's a landside, then the you know, the votes out of Nevada matter less for the presidency. So I think that's the big factor. But knowing North Carolina at Georgia and Pennsylvania on the early side of the night by you know two three am is a good sign for Trump at that point.
Well, I think, you know, a lot of the conversation because of course, you know, the media narrative is always weaker to Republicans. That's just you know, sort of like the constant theme right when you've got I think it's like eighty four percent negati or eighty nine percent negative coverage of Trump or whatever it is. But the whole narrative has been, oh, Republicans are eating into their election day vote, when I think maybe the flip side of that, and the better question is, you know, do Democrats have enough left in the tank, because you know, they're the ones who traditionally and historically get out the vote early. They're you know, tend to do better and mail ballots, and so do they have the numbers to maintain the edge that they have in Pennsylvania or make up, you know, the edge that Republicans have in Nevada. So I think it's actually the better question is do Democrats have enough in the tank and enough excitement on the ground to get their people out on election day?
Yeah?
I mean in Pennsylvania. One way to answer that question is the Democrats are sitting on more unreturned mail in ballots right now today than the GOP is. Democrats have about over two hundred thousand unreturned mail ballots. That are you know, sitting on those kitchen counters. They've got to do the work to chase those in whereas we have you know, closer to one hundred and thirty thousand unreturned mail in ballots. So, you know, I think that difference is significant, and it's a place we've never been before. This is not this is like, this is going to be hopefully a new trend line for Republicans to fully embrace and utilize the early vote and put our guys in as much of an aggressive position heading into election day that hasn't always been the case.
Yeah, there's this clip of David Oxelrod sort of freaking out on CNN the other day, worrying that their people just aren't as excited as they need to be and that they're not going to be able to get their coalition to show up enough on election day. But you know, we'll see, right, because we are almost there before we go. You know, I guess, how are you what's your read on what this election is going to look like when it's all said and done. You know, how are you feeling about things?
Well?
You know, I don't have a crystal ball, and so one can only hope and pray at this point. And my hope is that President Trump returns to the White House, that we keep a House majority, and that the Senate flips to GOP control by at least fifty three seats. I think should be kind of our high water mark of a goal for tomorrow. And that puts President Trump, I think, in the most aggressive position he can be for at least the next two years before the twenty twenty sixth election, for everything he wants to do, you know, everything from the economy to foreign policy, to safety and security to securing the border.
I mean, he.
Needs a strong Senate to be his partner to get his cabinet nominations through. What if we have another Supreme Court fight. I mean, there's so many things from a policy standpoint that could happen the next two years.
And I think the I think President.
Trump knows that time is of the essence, and he's going to be aggressive in fixing all of the things that the Biden Harris regimes screwed up over the.
Last four years.
And I think the economy and the border are probably two things that he handles right away on day one. And so I'm hopeful that we'll be at fifty three in the Senate, keep the House, and that President Trump will return to Pennsylvania Avenue.
Yeah.
I mean I feel good about things, but you know, obviously it all comes down to people showing up and returning ballots.
So that's right, it's not over. Yeah.
And also the irony is, you know, there's such a loss faith and institutions, and he's probably the only guy that can turn that around, just with transparency and also just you know, getting rid of some of these bad actors that have led to the loss of faith and institutions. Jessica Anderson really appreciate the work you're doing. And then where can people learn more about the Sentinel Action Fund.
Centel Action Fund dot com is a one stop shop for all of our work and you can follow me on Twitter at jess Anderson too.
Thanks for having me, Lisa.
That was Jessica Anderson with the Sentinel Action Fund. Appreciate her for taking the time to join the show. Appreciate you guys at home for listening every Monday and Thursday, but you can listen throughout the week. I doant to thank John, Cassie and my producer for putting the show together. Until next time.
