So we're going to get into a little media news today. We're going to have my friend Bobby Burreck with OutKick on the show. He's been on before. He's a great writer, a great columnist, always a great guest, and there's a lot to cover right now. We're going to talk a little bit about the super Bowl. This will come out after the super Bowl. That's the only downside of having a podcast twice a week. We do our best to try to bring you the news in a timely manner, but here we are. So we're going to talk to him about the Taylor Swift effect. She has increased NFL ratings by dating Travis Kelce being at some of the games. Will she have the same effect on the Super Bowl? Beyond that? Will she have that effect on twenty twenty four? You know, she recorded an Instagram video and then after that, thirty five thousand people signed up to vote through vote dot org during National voter Registration Day. So what impact could that have on two thousand and twenty four. We're gonna ask Bobby about that. Also, Joe Biden is skipping the pre Super Bowl interview again this year, huge audience.

So we're going to get into a little media news today. We're going to have my friend Bobby Burreck with OutKick on the show. He's been on before. He's a great writer, a great columnist, always a great guest, and there's a lot to cover right now. We're going to talk a little bit about the super Bowl. This will come out after the super Bowl. That's the only downside of having a podcast twice a week. We do our best to try to bring you the news in a timely manner, but here we are. So we're going to talk to him about the Taylor Swift effect. She has increased NFL ratings by dating Travis Kelce being at some of the games. Will she have the same effect on the Super Bowl? Beyond that? Will she have that effect on twenty twenty four? You know, she recorded an Instagram video and then after that, thirty five thousand people signed up to vote through vote dot org during National voter Registration Day. So what impact could that have on two thousand and twenty four. We're gonna ask Bobby about that. Also, Joe Biden is skipping the pre Super Bowl interview again this year, huge audience.

Is that a mistake?

Is that a mistake?

I'm gonna get Bobby's take on that. You know, we'll also talk to him about this big tuger Carlos in an interview with Vladimir Putin. Good idea, bad idea, I'll ask him. We'll also get his take on what are the big media stories that people are missing? So all of that and more without kicks, Bobby Burrack, stay tuned. Well, Bobby, It's great to have you back on the show. A lot of media stuff to get to, so looking forward to hearing what you have to say.

I'm gonna get Bobby's take on that. You know, we'll also talk to him about this big tuger Carlos in an interview with Vladimir Putin. Good idea, bad idea, I'll ask him. We'll also get his take on what are the big media stories that people are missing? So all of that and more without kicks, Bobby Burrack, stay tuned. Well, Bobby, It's great to have you back on the show. A lot of media stuff to get to, so looking forward to hearing what you have to say.

Hey, I appreciate you having me. It's been a while. Always good to hear from you, and by congrats to you. As seen you all over the TV the past year, so always cool to see you succeed. I'm happy to be here.

Hey, I appreciate you having me. It's been a while. Always good to hear from you, and by congrats to you. As seen you all over the TV the past year, so always cool to see you succeed. I'm happy to be here.

Thanks, Bobby. It's actually funny because this will air after the Super Bowl. I'm co hosting the Big Show at seven PM and ten PM. And my dad's response was, so I have to decide between the Super Bowl and my daughter.

Thanks, Bobby. It's actually funny because this will air after the Super Bowl. I'm co hosting the Big Show at seven PM and ten PM. And my dad's response was, so I have to decide between the Super Bowl and my daughter.

So I'll give the viewers some inside baseball. Last Super Bowl it was Chiefs and Eagles and you were flying home from New York during the game and I don't know if your signal went out, but you thought the game was over and there was still a quarter to go. So I had to catch you up to date because you were in the air missing the big game.

So I'll give the viewers some inside baseball. Last Super Bowl it was Chiefs and Eagles and you were flying home from New York during the game and I don't know if your signal went out, but you thought the game was over and there was still a quarter to go. So I had to catch you up to date because you were in the air missing the big game.

I appreciate. I appreciate you doing that. Well, this time I will probably be missing it because I'll be on air, so all have to update me again. Yeah all right, Well, so let let's start with the Super Bowl. So before I want to ask you about Biden skipping the pre Super Bowl interview. But before that, what's really crazy is this Taylor Swift, Travis Kelsey. The amount that she has been able to increase viewership is insane. Like, I think there is a whole seven percent increase from a year earlier. You look at the I'm looking at it now, so you look at the Chiefs Jets game got like twenty nine point four million viewers. There was a fifty three percent surge among teenage girls watching, and then that game, I guess they showed her like seventeen times. And then by comparison, the twenty twenty two World Series had something like twelve point eight million viewers. I mean, so that's pretty wild the amount of viewership that Taylor Swift alone has probably brought to the NFL this season. Yeah.

I appreciate. I appreciate you doing that. Well, this time I will probably be missing it because I'll be on air, so all have to update me again. Yeah all right, Well, so let let's start with the Super Bowl. So before I want to ask you about Biden skipping the pre Super Bowl interview. But before that, what's really crazy is this Taylor Swift, Travis Kelsey. The amount that she has been able to increase viewership is insane. Like, I think there is a whole seven percent increase from a year earlier. You look at the I'm looking at it now, so you look at the Chiefs Jets game got like twenty nine point four million viewers. There was a fifty three percent surge among teenage girls watching, and then that game, I guess they showed her like seventeen times. And then by comparison, the twenty twenty two World Series had something like twelve point eight million viewers. I mean, so that's pretty wild the amount of viewership that Taylor Swift alone has probably brought to the NFL this season. Yeah.

Absolutely, And so the NFL is the number one TV show in the country. Every year, if you look at the top one hundred broadcast it's usually like ninety seven candidates. Are NFL games. Other than residential debates, Football games top everything, particularly the Super Bowl, which last year had one hundred and twelve million viewers. But there is some concern with because everybody who likes football is already watching football. But what Taylor Swift has done, and then if you dig in the numbers, what's pretty glaring is teenage girls from twelve to seventeen that have been watching a lot more football than any year prior. So that's a demographic the NFL has not attracted to. So by doing that, they're seeing record business. I talked to some people in the TV industry. They're expecting this year's Super Bowl to break the record of one hundred and twelve million viewers. The expectation is is going to come in at about one hundred and fifteen million, in large part because of that teenage girl demographic.

Absolutely, And so the NFL is the number one TV show in the country. Every year, if you look at the top one hundred broadcast it's usually like ninety seven candidates. Are NFL games. Other than residential debates, Football games top everything, particularly the Super Bowl, which last year had one hundred and twelve million viewers. But there is some concern with because everybody who likes football is already watching football. But what Taylor Swift has done, and then if you dig in the numbers, what's pretty glaring is teenage girls from twelve to seventeen that have been watching a lot more football than any year prior. So that's a demographic the NFL has not attracted to. So by doing that, they're seeing record business. I talked to some people in the TV industry. They're expecting this year's Super Bowl to break the record of one hundred and twelve million viewers. The expectation is is going to come in at about one hundred and fifteen million, in large part because of that teenage girl demographic.

Yeah, I guess it's the highest regular season average since twenty fifteen. So then in that same vein it leads to a lot of conversations and some skepticism that the relationship between the two could be controlled. Do you buy into that? You know, what do you make of that?

Yeah, I guess it's the highest regular season average since twenty fifteen. So then in that same vein it leads to a lot of conversations and some skepticism that the relationship between the two could be controlled. Do you buy into that? You know, what do you make of that?

I wrote about this a couple of weeks ago, or actually last week. It's become a politi sized topic and there's different groups, right. I think there are people who are using this opportunity to grift, right, like say that she's a psyop. I don't believe that that seems out there, but is there some fatigue of it and probably some reasonable skepticism. Of course, because we've seen all throughout history these celebrity relationships usually have some performance art to them, right, including all of Taylor Swift's previous relationships. I don't know how serious it is, but look, they do tend to walk towards the camera after the game. Is obviously a big business for the NFL. It's raised Kelsey's status significantly. He's now the most popular football player in the country because of Taylor Swift. So I think there probably is some art to it. But I wouldn't go as far as some people to say that she's this psyop or play and I think that's a little far fetched from the evidence we have right now.

I wrote about this a couple of weeks ago, or actually last week. It's become a politi sized topic and there's different groups, right. I think there are people who are using this opportunity to grift, right, like say that she's a psyop. I don't believe that that seems out there, but is there some fatigue of it and probably some reasonable skepticism. Of course, because we've seen all throughout history these celebrity relationships usually have some performance art to them, right, including all of Taylor Swift's previous relationships. I don't know how serious it is, but look, they do tend to walk towards the camera after the game. Is obviously a big business for the NFL. It's raised Kelsey's status significantly. He's now the most popular football player in the country because of Taylor Swift. So I think there probably is some art to it. But I wouldn't go as far as some people to say that she's this psyop or play and I think that's a little far fetched from the evidence we have right now.

Yeah, I mean it's definitely being put in our face. I mean, you can't you know, it's like constant Travis Kelsey, Taylor Swift. Now, you know. There's also been conversations that she could swing the presidential election. I guess after an Instagram post. I guess it was in the or I can't I'm trying to. So she posted on Instagram and a record of something like thirty thousand people signed up through vote dot org during National voter Registration Day. I believe that was before the last midterms. So, I mean, could she sway the election? Is that giving her too much power?

Yeah, I mean it's definitely being put in our face. I mean, you can't you know, it's like constant Travis Kelsey, Taylor Swift. Now, you know. There's also been conversations that she could swing the presidential election. I guess after an Instagram post. I guess it was in the or I can't I'm trying to. So she posted on Instagram and a record of something like thirty thousand people signed up through vote dot org during National voter Registration Day. I believe that was before the last midterms. So, I mean, could she sway the election? Is that giving her too much power?

So a Newsweek article did a survey on this and they calculated that she could sway eighteen percent voters. Now that seems like an awful lot to me. Eighteen percent is substantial, Like, I don't know that anybody in the country could sway it that much other than the two candidates or some scandal. So I don't know if I'd go as far as eighteen percent. But could she sway the election in Biden's favor? I would say yes. And here's why. Believe it or not, a lot of people still don't vote in the election. I know the number keeps going higher and higher, but there's still a significant portion of the country that does not vote, particularly younger Americans, and where most of Taylor Swift's influence among younger Americans under thirty. So if she could get particularly women under thirty to go out and vote for a candidate, that could absolutely change the election. Because it's not boomers that she would be perswaying as people who are on the fence about voting in the first place. So if she goes on social media or during one of her concerts and advocates for Biden and tells people to go out and vote for him, couldn't have an impact. Of course, I.

So a Newsweek article did a survey on this and they calculated that she could sway eighteen percent voters. Now that seems like an awful lot to me. Eighteen percent is substantial, Like, I don't know that anybody in the country could sway it that much other than the two candidates or some scandal. So I don't know if I'd go as far as eighteen percent. But could she sway the election in Biden's favor? I would say yes. And here's why. Believe it or not, a lot of people still don't vote in the election. I know the number keeps going higher and higher, but there's still a significant portion of the country that does not vote, particularly younger Americans, and where most of Taylor Swift's influence among younger Americans under thirty. So if she could get particularly women under thirty to go out and vote for a candidate, that could absolutely change the election. Because it's not boomers that she would be perswaying as people who are on the fence about voting in the first place. So if she goes on social media or during one of her concerts and advocates for Biden and tells people to go out and vote for him, couldn't have an impact. Of course, I.

Guess it was twenty twenty three, it was something like thirty five thousand people registered.

Guess it was twenty twenty three, it was something like thirty five thousand people registered.

I don't know what.

I don't know what.

I don't know what I would do with that much power. That's probably why I don't have it.

I don't know what I would do with that much power. That's probably why I don't have it.

Well, Lisa, she's the I would argue, other than the presidents who are in their own stratosphere. I think she's the most famous person in either of our lifetimes. You could argue Michael Jackson, who precedes us a little bit, but the influence that she has behind social media is what makes her so much more influential than some of the stars before her, who couldn't reach so many people instantly all day like she can on Instagram.

Well, Lisa, she's the I would argue, other than the presidents who are in their own stratosphere. I think she's the most famous person in either of our lifetimes. You could argue Michael Jackson, who precedes us a little bit, but the influence that she has behind social media is what makes her so much more influential than some of the stars before her, who couldn't reach so many people instantly all day like she can on Instagram.

Why do you think that is?

Why do you think that is?

That's a good question. I don't know, because is there a music good I think you and I have talked about before. You're a fan of it. I mean, I think it's but as her music any better than anybody else's, I don't know. I would say no. A lot of it I think goes back to an MTV talked about this in twenty twelve about how the music industry has usually been uplifted by teenage girls. They tend to be the most passionate concertgoers and music downloaders or previously CD buyers. So she hits the right demographic and it's really become a culture cultural phenomenon. A lot of people parents think, well, she's a better role model than other musicians, so they let their kids listen to her and follow her earlier. And I don't know if that's true, but I guess compared her to like Megan d. Stallion and Rihanna, she probably is more quote unquote family friendly. I think people are getting into her at an early age and now this. The entire culture has been centered around her over the past year. Her concert gross I believe, over a billion dollars and it actually changed the economy because of how many tickets and hotels and merchandise she produced. It really is something that we don't see now in the country, when there's so many options, things are more and more niche but Taylor Swift, She's everywhere. Her popularity seems to actually be increasing.

That's a good question. I don't know, because is there a music good I think you and I have talked about before. You're a fan of it. I mean, I think it's but as her music any better than anybody else's, I don't know. I would say no. A lot of it I think goes back to an MTV talked about this in twenty twelve about how the music industry has usually been uplifted by teenage girls. They tend to be the most passionate concertgoers and music downloaders or previously CD buyers. So she hits the right demographic and it's really become a culture cultural phenomenon. A lot of people parents think, well, she's a better role model than other musicians, so they let their kids listen to her and follow her earlier. And I don't know if that's true, but I guess compared her to like Megan d. Stallion and Rihanna, she probably is more quote unquote family friendly. I think people are getting into her at an early age and now this. The entire culture has been centered around her over the past year. Her concert gross I believe, over a billion dollars and it actually changed the economy because of how many tickets and hotels and merchandise she produced. It really is something that we don't see now in the country, when there's so many options, things are more and more niche but Taylor Swift, She's everywhere. Her popularity seems to actually be increasing.

Well, and it might have been getting to her head because she totally you know, gave Selein Dion the stiff arm at the Grammys, which I thought was really rude because Slen Dion's an icon and has had some whole issue, you know, I want to get into. Biden is now skipping the traditional pre Super Bowl interview for the second year in a row. His team told CNN, we are being more creative and relying less on the formulas of the past, which is a very hilarious way to put it. Is it a mistake for him to skip it this year?

Well, and it might have been getting to her head because she totally you know, gave Selein Dion the stiff arm at the Grammys, which I thought was really rude because Slen Dion's an icon and has had some whole issue, you know, I want to get into. Biden is now skipping the traditional pre Super Bowl interview for the second year in a row. His team told CNN, we are being more creative and relying less on the formulas of the past, which is a very hilarious way to put it. Is it a mistake for him to skip it this year?

No, because he embarrasses himself. Every time he speaks, he references dead people, he stumbles over his words. The last time I heard him talk about football, he stood up and said I married a Philly girl. I'm wearing an eagle sweatshirt and it wasn't even an eagle sweatshirt. So I think keeping him away is actually a good thing. But speaking of that CNN story you reference, Biden's team also said they're doing this to keep politics out of sports. That is such a lie. They're trying to hide him because that's what they did in twenty twenty. Right, the only way he can win, unless you know, maybe censorship, and we'll get into some of that, is if they just hide him and allow the other side to hopefully self destruct, because he's not going to win over any voters when he's front and center. So usually I would say, yeah, the president should go in front of the Super Bowl audience, the largest audience in the country, and try to swing vote, but he can't do that. He's only going to make more people think he's deranged, in senile and not fit for office.

No, because he embarrasses himself. Every time he speaks, he references dead people, he stumbles over his words. The last time I heard him talk about football, he stood up and said I married a Philly girl. I'm wearing an eagle sweatshirt and it wasn't even an eagle sweatshirt. So I think keeping him away is actually a good thing. But speaking of that CNN story you reference, Biden's team also said they're doing this to keep politics out of sports. That is such a lie. They're trying to hide him because that's what they did in twenty twenty. Right, the only way he can win, unless you know, maybe censorship, and we'll get into some of that, is if they just hide him and allow the other side to hopefully self destruct, because he's not going to win over any voters when he's front and center. So usually I would say, yeah, the president should go in front of the Super Bowl audience, the largest audience in the country, and try to swing vote, but he can't do that. He's only going to make more people think he's deranged, in senile and not fit for office.

Yeah. Twice this week he has said that he has spoken to European leaders who are dead. He said he talked to them about January six. You referred to a German chancellor who is dead, and then also had said that he had spoken to a French president who's been dead since nineteen ninety six, and they unless they visited him and his dreams or you know, some sort of ghost version, those conversations did not happen. Do you think Americans are paying attention to that?

Yeah. Twice this week he has said that he has spoken to European leaders who are dead. He said he talked to them about January six. You referred to a German chancellor who is dead, and then also had said that he had spoken to a French president who's been dead since nineteen ninety six, and they unless they visited him and his dreams or you know, some sort of ghost version, those conversations did not happen. Do you think Americans are paying attention to that?

I do. Look, I don't think it's the top of the concerns. You look at pulling and I wrote about this recently. The border is prior number one. It's actually a bigger priority than the economy among like Iowa voters we saw during the caucus. Why do you think biden capabilities and obvious cognitive decline is at least part of the conversation because look at his approval ratings. He's not popular. And now some of that is he's done a bad job. But I do think Americans know that he is not a strong candidate, and his polling reflects that. I follow betting odds a lot when it comes to the election, which were early accurate in twenty sixteen and twenty twenty, and the odds are, according to the betting market, that Biden's not going to win the general election, and they cite some of those concerns with his slip ups and all of that. So I think the best thing for his team to do is to keep him far away from the spotlight because he doesn't help himself at all.

I do. Look, I don't think it's the top of the concerns. You look at pulling and I wrote about this recently. The border is prior number one. It's actually a bigger priority than the economy among like Iowa voters we saw during the caucus. Why do you think biden capabilities and obvious cognitive decline is at least part of the conversation because look at his approval ratings. He's not popular. And now some of that is he's done a bad job. But I do think Americans know that he is not a strong candidate, and his polling reflects that. I follow betting odds a lot when it comes to the election, which were early accurate in twenty sixteen and twenty twenty, and the odds are, according to the betting market, that Biden's not going to win the general election, and they cite some of those concerns with his slip ups and all of that. So I think the best thing for his team to do is to keep him far away from the spotlight because he doesn't help himself at all.

What do you think this media coverage? The media coverage this election cycle is going to look like, oh.

What do you think this media coverage? The media coverage this election cycle is going to look like, oh.

Awful, worst that we've ever seen. We're already seeing it, right. So after Trump jan Iowa, he went on and started talking about illegal immigration, which again was Iowa caucus goer's biggest concern. CNN interrupts his speech, saying we can't show that because he's spewing anti immigration rhetoric. Well no, he wasn't. But what is CNN doing. They are censoring the speech the leading Republican candidate, then telling their viewers he's saying something that he's not and not giving their the viewers a chance to actually hear what Trump says. And why are they doing that? Because immigration, from Trump's perspective, is a winning message and CNN does not want that winning message aired across their network. Same thing with New Hampshire, NBC cut his speech short. MSNBC didn't even air it. So I would expect the media to continue to do that and do whatever they can to assist Joe Biden. You what evidence do we have of that, we have almost a decade of evidence. For eight years, ever since Trump came down that escalator, the legacy media has been doing whatever they can to try to diminish his chances, swing votes, and convince people he's doing things that he's not actually doing. So I think that the media is going to be a huge story this year.

Awful, worst that we've ever seen. We're already seeing it, right. So after Trump jan Iowa, he went on and started talking about illegal immigration, which again was Iowa caucus goer's biggest concern. CNN interrupts his speech, saying we can't show that because he's spewing anti immigration rhetoric. Well no, he wasn't. But what is CNN doing. They are censoring the speech the leading Republican candidate, then telling their viewers he's saying something that he's not and not giving their the viewers a chance to actually hear what Trump says. And why are they doing that? Because immigration, from Trump's perspective, is a winning message and CNN does not want that winning message aired across their network. Same thing with New Hampshire, NBC cut his speech short. MSNBC didn't even air it. So I would expect the media to continue to do that and do whatever they can to assist Joe Biden. You what evidence do we have of that, we have almost a decade of evidence. For eight years, ever since Trump came down that escalator, the legacy media has been doing whatever they can to try to diminish his chances, swing votes, and convince people he's doing things that he's not actually doing. So I think that the media is going to be a huge story this year.

We've got to take a quick commercial break more with Bobby. You know, we saw the Huffingam post I think in the twenty sixteen I believe it's in the primary, relegated him to like the entertainment section, and then you had Dworter obviously removed his account, took down his account, which is really a set a dangerous precedent for all this, Like you said of not even taking his speeches. So if you're a Trump and your his team, I mean, how do you counter that that's going say? How do you get your message out?

We've got to take a quick commercial break more with Bobby. You know, we saw the Huffingam post I think in the twenty sixteen I believe it's in the primary, relegated him to like the entertainment section, and then you had Dworter obviously removed his account, took down his account, which is really a set a dangerous precedent for all this, Like you said of not even taking his speeches. So if you're a Trump and your his team, I mean, how do you counter that that's going say? How do you get your message out?

Yeah? Yeah, that's my concern. So I wrote a piece last week about the censorship industrial complex, which is we knew from a House Judiciary filing there are several government agencies that pressured and influenced tech companies in twenty twenty to meddle with information interfere and intercept the publishing of information that was inconvenient towards the Biden campaign. And I think it's a really damning filing that's not getting nearly enough attention. But what bothers me and concerns me is Republicans have been talking about big tech suppression and censorship for years now, but what have they done about it? They haven't done anything about it. The powers that helped influence the last election online in the media, they have the same opportunity to do all that. Again, there is no regulation. Nobody in Congress is really doing anything about it. There is nothing stopping Twitter. We're not Twitter because Musk owns it now, but facebooks, YouTube, Google, TikTok, Instagram from deciding and manipulating what information voters see and do not see. They can censor any report like they did the Hunter Biden one. Yet again, so whenuntil Congress does something about it or or takes away Section two thirty the liability this type of media and social media manipulation is going to continue when.

Yeah? Yeah, that's my concern. So I wrote a piece last week about the censorship industrial complex, which is we knew from a House Judiciary filing there are several government agencies that pressured and influenced tech companies in twenty twenty to meddle with information interfere and intercept the publishing of information that was inconvenient towards the Biden campaign. And I think it's a really damning filing that's not getting nearly enough attention. But what bothers me and concerns me is Republicans have been talking about big tech suppression and censorship for years now, but what have they done about it? They haven't done anything about it. The powers that helped influence the last election online in the media, they have the same opportunity to do all that. Again, there is no regulation. Nobody in Congress is really doing anything about it. There is nothing stopping Twitter. We're not Twitter because Musk owns it now, but facebooks, YouTube, Google, TikTok, Instagram from deciding and manipulating what information voters see and do not see. They can censor any report like they did the Hunter Biden one. Yet again, so whenuntil Congress does something about it or or takes away Section two thirty the liability this type of media and social media manipulation is going to continue when.

It's always under the guise of we're doing this for you, you know what, We're doing this to protect you from misinformation and disinformation, which really shows us how they view us and then how they view themselves as well.

It's always under the guise of we're doing this for you, you know what, We're doing this to protect you from misinformation and disinformation, which really shows us how they view us and then how they view themselves as well.

Yeah, it's such a lie, because you're right, there is. They made it their moral duty to not allow us to decide if Trump should win the election. Right. They tried everything they tried to taking them up primary vallist, impeach him, raid his home and dieted them, arrested him. It goes on and on, but I want to underscore I think how dangerous this topic is. So the government cannot legally censor the ordinary Americans. The First Amendment preventsive. However, what we have here is government agencies strong arming tech platforms to censor Americans on their behalf. Remember Twitter files last year showed several communications between the Biden, White House and Twitter officials. Jeff Zuckerberg has admitted that he's been in communication with the White House and Biden administration about censor and content as well. That makes social media services not private companies, but state actors, and they are restricting the First Amendment rights of Americans. That is a constitutional concern. It's by definition ugly authoritarianism, and I think that has to be at the front and center of the conversation this year because that has a profound impact on voting them. I looked at the members the other day. One in six Americans say they would have voted differently in the election had they known about the validity of the Hunter Biden laptop expose. I mean, imagine one in six voters changing their votes in swing states. So this, this entire topic cannot be underestimated at all.

Yeah, it's such a lie, because you're right, there is. They made it their moral duty to not allow us to decide if Trump should win the election. Right. They tried everything they tried to taking them up primary vallist, impeach him, raid his home and dieted them, arrested him. It goes on and on, but I want to underscore I think how dangerous this topic is. So the government cannot legally censor the ordinary Americans. The First Amendment preventsive. However, what we have here is government agencies strong arming tech platforms to censor Americans on their behalf. Remember Twitter files last year showed several communications between the Biden, White House and Twitter officials. Jeff Zuckerberg has admitted that he's been in communication with the White House and Biden administration about censor and content as well. That makes social media services not private companies, but state actors, and they are restricting the First Amendment rights of Americans. That is a constitutional concern. It's by definition ugly authoritarianism, and I think that has to be at the front and center of the conversation this year because that has a profound impact on voting them. I looked at the members the other day. One in six Americans say they would have voted differently in the election had they known about the validity of the Hunter Biden laptop expose. I mean, imagine one in six voters changing their votes in swing states. So this, this entire topic cannot be underestimated at all.

Well, you know, in the irony too, is that, you know, they tell us that Trump is the one that is destroying democracy, that he's the threat to democracy, and then they have just completely taking a wrecking ball to every norm in America under that facade, right, so, uh, you know, and to to try to stop him, and so you know, I do think it's kind of led us to the scary place where, you know, are we free? You know, do we have a First Amendment? You know, you know what what kind of country are we really? Right now? Yeah?

Well, you know, in the irony too, is that, you know, they tell us that Trump is the one that is destroying democracy, that he's the threat to democracy, and then they have just completely taking a wrecking ball to every norm in America under that facade, right, so, uh, you know, and to to try to stop him, and so you know, I do think it's kind of led us to the scary place where, you know, are we free? You know, do we have a First Amendment? You know, you know what what kind of country are we really? Right now? Yeah?

We keep hearing the two greatest threats to democracy or Donald Trump and white supremacy. There's no evidence of either of those. The greatest threat to democker REI fundamentally is taking away the access voters have to factual information about the candidates they're voting for. I mean, look, when you're an American, you're you're proudest right should be you decide who gets to lead this country. So when the government or media, our social media diminish that ability for you, that makes you less of an American. And that's, you know, something that should never happen in this country, but it's happening and nobody's doing anything about it.

We keep hearing the two greatest threats to democracy or Donald Trump and white supremacy. There's no evidence of either of those. The greatest threat to democker REI fundamentally is taking away the access voters have to factual information about the candidates they're voting for. I mean, look, when you're an American, you're you're proudest right should be you decide who gets to lead this country. So when the government or media, our social media diminish that ability for you, that makes you less of an American. And that's, you know, something that should never happen in this country, but it's happening and nobody's doing anything about it.

You know. I had Robert Cahally on the podcast not too long ago from the Trifler Group, and he was saying that he believes young voters are going to surprise us this election cycle in part because they are turning to podcasts and alternative means of media and to get their information, and so, you know, they're less reliant on traditional media these days. Does that track? I know you follow podcasts very closely, you follow alternative media very closely. You know, what do you make of that statement?

You know. I had Robert Cahally on the podcast not too long ago from the Trifler Group, and he was saying that he believes young voters are going to surprise us this election cycle in part because they are turning to podcasts and alternative means of media and to get their information, and so, you know, they're less reliant on traditional media these days. Does that track? I know you follow podcasts very closely, you follow alternative media very closely. You know, what do you make of that statement?

Yeah, so I've thought about that. I understand what he's saying, right, because legacy media is not as influential. But here's the problem with that belief. Unfortunately, and I hate to be the bearer of bad news. I dug in the numbers for my piece. Facebook and YouTube still control pretty much all of the marketplace of online news consumption like x as Cool as it is with Elon Musk reaches about fifty five million American users. Facebook reaches two hundred and seventy million. YouTube is right under there. You look at podcasting, the number one podcast platform is actually YouTube right now, which does, as we know, interfere with the content that you can consume. So there is there is a truth to it that there are some alternative media sites like X and Rumble and Joe Rogan that can give you facts that you're not getting elsewhere. But by and large, the legacy media's narratives have dripped right into big tech because Facebook and YouTube control most of what voters see. So I think there is something to that, But this time around, I still think that that is not enough to offset the power structure that so favorably leans democrat.

Yeah, so I've thought about that. I understand what he's saying, right, because legacy media is not as influential. But here's the problem with that belief. Unfortunately, and I hate to be the bearer of bad news. I dug in the numbers for my piece. Facebook and YouTube still control pretty much all of the marketplace of online news consumption like x as Cool as it is with Elon Musk reaches about fifty five million American users. Facebook reaches two hundred and seventy million. YouTube is right under there. You look at podcasting, the number one podcast platform is actually YouTube right now, which does, as we know, interfere with the content that you can consume. So there is there is a truth to it that there are some alternative media sites like X and Rumble and Joe Rogan that can give you facts that you're not getting elsewhere. But by and large, the legacy media's narratives have dripped right into big tech because Facebook and YouTube control most of what voters see. So I think there is something to that, But this time around, I still think that that is not enough to offset the power structure that so favorably leans democrat.

I saw an NBC poll that said one in five voters use TikTok at least yes per day exactly. You know, Republicans have expressed a lot of concern about TikTok obviously because it's a parent company byte Edance is controlled by China, like yeah, buying data collection, propaganda, you know, pushing propaganda, mind control, all these various concerns. But I mean, that's a lot of voters that we're maybe not reaching. Should republic Bos join TikTok?

I saw an NBC poll that said one in five voters use TikTok at least yes per day exactly. You know, Republicans have expressed a lot of concern about TikTok obviously because it's a parent company byte Edance is controlled by China, like yeah, buying data collection, propaganda, you know, pushing propaganda, mind control, all these various concerns. But I mean, that's a lot of voters that we're maybe not reaching. Should republic Bos join TikTok?

Yeah, absolutely, because look, remember when Parlor had some momentum. There's a lot of Republicans that went to Parlor and they're like, well, I'm quitting Twitter, I'm going to Parlor. The problem is is that that doesn't it doesn't really reach a lot of people. It ends up just being a conservative echo chamber, which is fine, but conservative echo chambers don't get people on the other side to convert right. And that's where the left continues to dominate, is that because they control TikTok, which reaches so many young Americans, they're able to convince them, hey, come to our side. So building an alternative doesn't work. Republicans in the right need to convince young Americans on TikTok, Hey that side might not be right, come to our side. So unfortunately, as sort of icky as TikTok is, and it really is. You read that some of the reports about the influence China has and it's just awful. I think Republicans should be on there because TikTok in a lot of ways does control the information the future of Americans access day to day.

Yeah, absolutely, because look, remember when Parlor had some momentum. There's a lot of Republicans that went to Parlor and they're like, well, I'm quitting Twitter, I'm going to Parlor. The problem is is that that doesn't it doesn't really reach a lot of people. It ends up just being a conservative echo chamber, which is fine, but conservative echo chambers don't get people on the other side to convert right. And that's where the left continues to dominate, is that because they control TikTok, which reaches so many young Americans, they're able to convince them, hey, come to our side. So building an alternative doesn't work. Republicans in the right need to convince young Americans on TikTok, Hey that side might not be right, come to our side. So unfortunately, as sort of icky as TikTok is, and it really is. You read that some of the reports about the influence China has and it's just awful. I think Republicans should be on there because TikTok in a lot of ways does control the information the future of Americans access day to day.

Should I join TikTok? I can't dance, though, I don't know what.

Should I join TikTok? I can't dance, though, I don't know what.

I would do on a well, I don't know if you need to dance, but I know that you told me about a year ago you started to bake cookies, and I heard those videos do very well.

I would do on a well, I don't know if you need to dance, but I know that you told me about a year ago you started to bake cookies, and I heard those videos do very well.

I well, so, I actually it's a recipe from one of my friends. And she did make it seem like it was this super secretive recipe, and I guess she got it from Mike Bussel. She later admitted, but it's a very good recipe. But yeah, like I can't dance, I can't, you know, so I'm not really sure what sort of like performative. I don't know. We'll figure it out.

I well, so, I actually it's a recipe from one of my friends. And she did make it seem like it was this super secretive recipe, and I guess she got it from Mike Bussel. She later admitted, but it's a very good recipe. But yeah, like I can't dance, I can't, you know, so I'm not really sure what sort of like performative. I don't know. We'll figure it out.

You do, you do walk bella and those videos can be pretty entertaining.

You do, you do walk bella and those videos can be pretty entertaining.

She's very cute, awful that much. She's very very cute, you know. So Tucker is going to be releasing the interview with Vladimir Putin soon. You know, good idea, bad idea.

She's very cute, awful that much. She's very very cute, you know. So Tucker is going to be releasing the interview with Vladimir Putin soon. You know, good idea, bad idea.

I think it's a great idea. So I see journalists are furious that he's doing this. And if you remember this a journalist has three or jobs. Seek the truth, question the narrative, and speak to the subjects they cover. Tucker is doing all three of that. Look the war between Russia and Ukraine, we're pretty much funding it. We don't know much about it. We only know what people are telling us. We haven't really heard Russia's side or Putin's side, and Americans ought to be able to hear that and no more. A journalist's job is to find those answers and bring those answers out.

I think it's a great idea. So I see journalists are furious that he's doing this. And if you remember this a journalist has three or jobs. Seek the truth, question the narrative, and speak to the subjects they cover. Tucker is doing all three of that. Look the war between Russia and Ukraine, we're pretty much funding it. We don't know much about it. We only know what people are telling us. We haven't really heard Russia's side or Putin's side, and Americans ought to be able to hear that and no more. A journalist's job is to find those answers and bring those answers out.

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I don't know what question is Tucker asked Putin. If there's ways to do a good interview, there's ways to do a propagandistic interview. I assume he did a pretty good job, because he's always been a strong interviewer. And I think it behooves all of us to know what is going on in Europe, given how invested we are, Because I'll be honest when I hear reports from the New York Times about what's going on or Zelensky, I don't believe it. Why should we? These people have lied to us for so long. We were told for a long time that Russia was losing the war. I don't know if that's true. So I think Tucker bringing to light Putin is beneficial to all of us and shame on the journalists for trying to shame him for doing his job, you know.

I don't know what question is Tucker asked Putin. If there's ways to do a good interview, there's ways to do a propagandistic interview. I assume he did a pretty good job, because he's always been a strong interviewer. And I think it behooves all of us to know what is going on in Europe, given how invested we are, Because I'll be honest when I hear reports from the New York Times about what's going on or Zelensky, I don't believe it. Why should we? These people have lied to us for so long. We were told for a long time that Russia was losing the war. I don't know if that's true. So I think Tucker bringing to light Putin is beneficial to all of us and shame on the journalists for trying to shame him for doing his job, you know.

And I guess EU lawmakers are now urging sanctions against him, a travel band against him. I mean, do you think they'll go through with that? And is that just to kind of like silence people from having these kinds of interviews in the future.

And I guess EU lawmakers are now urging sanctions against him, a travel band against him. I mean, do you think they'll go through with that? And is that just to kind of like silence people from having these kinds of interviews in the future.

You know, four years ago I would have said that that is ologous fear tactics. But stuff that we see now, I don't put any thing past the people in charge, because they do so many things that are unethical and counterproductive to what the American people want. I wouldn't be surprised at all. I mean, look, other than Donald Trump and Elon Musk, is there a bigger target than Tucker Carlson, the coverage of him, what they've tried to do to him, the way they frame him. I would put nothing past them. But it's so unfortunate because Vladimir Putin is one of the most influential world leaders in the country, and we should have access to what he says, correct him, hold him accountable, and hear his side on stuff. And nobody's doing that. So props to Tucker for at least trying to do that.

You know, four years ago I would have said that that is ologous fear tactics. But stuff that we see now, I don't put any thing past the people in charge, because they do so many things that are unethical and counterproductive to what the American people want. I wouldn't be surprised at all. I mean, look, other than Donald Trump and Elon Musk, is there a bigger target than Tucker Carlson, the coverage of him, what they've tried to do to him, the way they frame him. I would put nothing past them. But it's so unfortunate because Vladimir Putin is one of the most influential world leaders in the country, and we should have access to what he says, correct him, hold him accountable, and hear his side on stuff. And nobody's doing that. So props to Tucker for at least trying to do that.

I've got to take a quick commercial break more without kicks. Bobby Burrick, what's the biggest media story that isn't getting discussed as much as it should?

I've got to take a quick commercial break more without kicks. Bobby Burrick, what's the biggest media story that isn't getting discussed as much as it should?

Oh, that's a good question. There's a lot, but I would say it is what's the entire foundation and financial incentive to the trans movement? Right? The right is done a bad job fighting back on this because they talk about minor issues. They're like, well, men shouldn't compete against women's sports, obviously, Then they talk about bud Light. Obviously that was stupid, But that's minor stuff. What they don't discuss enough is is that there are entire industries built around gender affirming care. That's why when I write the word trans now I make the yes a dollar symbol because so many people are making money from it. And I did some research in September. The Human Rights Campaign is the most powerful gay rights lobbyist in Washington. They gained influence in fortune by fighting for gay rights. Well, once gay rights were legalized, they didn't just pack up and celebrate. They had to pivot, so they pivoted to this idea that the trans can unity is victimized and that they need our support, and that its bled into all fastests of culture. Now, I mean you have George Soros investing a lot of money in the human rights campaign, and the long term consequences of transgenderism, I think a severe There's been some studies about what it does to your body to have body parts chopped up in the name of gender affirmation. It's a really dangerous phenomenon that the medium doesn't cover a lot, and they're afraid to cover it because there's so much sensitivity around that topic.

Oh, that's a good question. There's a lot, but I would say it is what's the entire foundation and financial incentive to the trans movement? Right? The right is done a bad job fighting back on this because they talk about minor issues. They're like, well, men shouldn't compete against women's sports, obviously, Then they talk about bud Light. Obviously that was stupid, But that's minor stuff. What they don't discuss enough is is that there are entire industries built around gender affirming care. That's why when I write the word trans now I make the yes a dollar symbol because so many people are making money from it. And I did some research in September. The Human Rights Campaign is the most powerful gay rights lobbyist in Washington. They gained influence in fortune by fighting for gay rights. Well, once gay rights were legalized, they didn't just pack up and celebrate. They had to pivot, so they pivoted to this idea that the trans can unity is victimized and that they need our support, and that its bled into all fastests of culture. Now, I mean you have George Soros investing a lot of money in the human rights campaign, and the long term consequences of transgenderism, I think a severe There's been some studies about what it does to your body to have body parts chopped up in the name of gender affirmation. It's a really dangerous phenomenon that the medium doesn't cover a lot, and they're afraid to cover it because there's so much sensitivity around that topic.

Why do you think that is? Because you know, we're talking about such a small portion of the population, so why do they have so much control.

Why do you think that is? Because you know, we're talking about such a small portion of the population, so why do they have so much control.

I talk a lot about the hierarchy of victimhood, right, and that defines your level of success and what you can get away from. The trans people sit firmly atop the hierarchy of victim but right, like Christians for now at least right. It used to be used to be exactly right, like gay people used to be high, they got pushed down. Women used to be high, they got pushed out.

I talk a lot about the hierarchy of victimhood, right, and that defines your level of success and what you can get away from. The trans people sit firmly atop the hierarchy of victim but right, like Christians for now at least right. It used to be used to be exactly right, like gay people used to be high, they got pushed down. Women used to be high, they got pushed out.

Should have tried to you know, really it was not I was not a fan of the me too.

Should have tried to you know, really it was not I was not a fan of the me too.

Uh, you missed your opportunity.

Uh, you missed your opportunity.

Now I'm now I'm at the bottom of the barrel. It's just uh you know, yeah.

Now I'm now I'm at the bottom of the barrel. It's just uh you know, yeah.

Yeah, as a straight white woman, you're right there with white guys, so you have no help and nobody cares. But it's about the trans community, and so they get away with so much. I mean, they represent such a small portion of the country. I think it's like, what point nine percent, but we spend so much time hatering to them, and then people have been fired for making trans jokes, for making fun of people with their pronouns. Look right now it is their time. Unfortunately. I think that's a really dangerous idea, but it is. And you see every June, these big brands in corporate America spend the entire month advocating to the trans community with like these creepy, tough friendly swimwears. So yeah, people right now do not want to offend that community, and we know it. So I've written a lot about them. You wouldn't believe all the media people that will call me or DM me after I write about them, saying we so agree with you. We think this entire movement is a farce, But we're not allowed to say that publicly. Really, you're in the media and you're not allowed to talk about one of the biggest topic going How cowardly of that is, are you?

Yeah, as a straight white woman, you're right there with white guys, so you have no help and nobody cares. But it's about the trans community, and so they get away with so much. I mean, they represent such a small portion of the country. I think it's like, what point nine percent, but we spend so much time hatering to them, and then people have been fired for making trans jokes, for making fun of people with their pronouns. Look right now it is their time. Unfortunately. I think that's a really dangerous idea, but it is. And you see every June, these big brands in corporate America spend the entire month advocating to the trans community with like these creepy, tough friendly swimwears. So yeah, people right now do not want to offend that community, and we know it. So I've written a lot about them. You wouldn't believe all the media people that will call me or DM me after I write about them, saying we so agree with you. We think this entire movement is a farce, But we're not allowed to say that publicly. Really, you're in the media and you're not allowed to talk about one of the biggest topic going How cowardly of that is, are you?

So? The New York Times did allow for an opinion piece recently raising some of these concerns. Do you think it told the story of a grace how twenty three year old biological woman who is detransitioning from the sex change that she had a few years ago.

So? The New York Times did allow for an opinion piece recently raising some of these concerns. Do you think it told the story of a grace how twenty three year old biological woman who is detransitioning from the sex change that she had a few years ago.

Is that?

Is that?

What do you make of that? I mean, that does seem like a positive step in terms of, you know, mainstream media finally admitting that, you know, there's some real dangers to allowing this to happen to young people.

What do you make of that? I mean, that does seem like a positive step in terms of, you know, mainstream media finally admitting that, you know, there's some real dangers to allowing this to happen to young people.

Yeah, it's funny you bring that up. I just saw today that there are staff for the New York Times outrage at that piece was published. So they're now receiving pushback for just telling the truth. But we do raise an interesting conundrum because I don't think most people Lisa agree with the idea that a man can just turned into a woman or vice versa, like we saw with bud Light. A lot of the country rejects it, but they end up being the silent majority. Like so many of these cultural issues, whether it be like Black Lives Matter, transgenderism, it's only supported by this annoying ten percent vocal majority. But the problem is is that they control the conversation, right, and that is where it's important and incumbent upon other people to not be so afraid of them, right, Like just like DEI. I think a lot of Americans agree DEI is not beneficial, but they're afraid to say it. But I think the one comfort they can take in all of this is you're not alone. Right. There's a lot of normal people out there that don't want to be judged by their sexual orientation, their gender, and their race, but they're afraid to say so because that low ten percent controls the message.

Yeah, it's funny you bring that up. I just saw today that there are staff for the New York Times outrage at that piece was published. So they're now receiving pushback for just telling the truth. But we do raise an interesting conundrum because I don't think most people Lisa agree with the idea that a man can just turned into a woman or vice versa, like we saw with bud Light. A lot of the country rejects it, but they end up being the silent majority. Like so many of these cultural issues, whether it be like Black Lives Matter, transgenderism, it's only supported by this annoying ten percent vocal majority. But the problem is is that they control the conversation, right, and that is where it's important and incumbent upon other people to not be so afraid of them, right, Like just like DEI. I think a lot of Americans agree DEI is not beneficial, but they're afraid to say it. But I think the one comfort they can take in all of this is you're not alone. Right. There's a lot of normal people out there that don't want to be judged by their sexual orientation, their gender, and their race, but they're afraid to say so because that low ten percent controls the message.

So before we go, my friend, and mind you, this is airing on Monday. Yes, so you're going to be held to account for your answer to this, right, So, chiefs forty nine ers, who do you have?

So before we go, my friend, and mind you, this is airing on Monday. Yes, so you're going to be held to account for your answer to this, right, So, chiefs forty nine ers, who do you have?

Oh? I have the forty nine ers. And granted, keep in mind here, I've gotten like the last five Super Bowls wrong, so I'm bound to get one right. Right. I get be you wrong every year? Like I think at some point the ball has to bounce in my core.

Oh? I have the forty nine ers. And granted, keep in mind here, I've gotten like the last five Super Bowls wrong, so I'm bound to get one right. Right. I get be you wrong every year? Like I think at some point the ball has to bounce in my core.

I'm gonna get rooting for you, Bobby.

I'm gonna get rooting for you, Bobby.

You should be I'm gonna I'm gonna bore your listeners a little bit here and get okay x's and o's. So the Kansas City Chiefs, they're not the Chiefs of old where they can score a lot of points. This is a team that relies on ball control playing defense. Well, this is the worst matchup because the forty nine Ers have the best running back in the NFL, and he's just gonna run the ball down the Chiefs throat. So I think they're gonna keep Travis Kelcey and Patrick Mahomes on the sideline, and I have the forty nine ers winning pretty comfortably, maybe thirty twenty.

You should be I'm gonna I'm gonna bore your listeners a little bit here and get okay x's and o's. So the Kansas City Chiefs, they're not the Chiefs of old where they can score a lot of points. This is a team that relies on ball control playing defense. Well, this is the worst matchup because the forty nine Ers have the best running back in the NFL, and he's just gonna run the ball down the Chiefs throat. So I think they're gonna keep Travis Kelcey and Patrick Mahomes on the sideline, and I have the forty nine ers winning pretty comfortably, maybe thirty twenty.

All right, well hashtag go sports.

All right, well hashtag go sports.

And wait before you go, I have a question for you. So, yeah, if you were in charge of halftime, and I've asked a lot of people, this would be performing this year.

And wait before you go, I have a question for you. So, yeah, if you were in charge of halftime, and I've asked a lot of people, this would be performing this year.

Oh okay, not usher, oh man, all right, I put you on the spot, but I put everybody on the spot, so you're not alone. I know. I'm trying to think. So I'm like kind of weird because I don't have like a lot of favorites, you know, like I like a bunch of different music, but I don't know if I don't have like a favorite artist of all time. Okay, so I'm trying to think. I don't know who I would put, yeah, because it would have to be someone who, like it can't just be a singer, right, like you need like a performer. Yeah, yeah, So it can't just be it can't just be someone with like a great voice. It has to be someone who can thoroughly entertain an audience.

Oh okay, not usher, oh man, all right, I put you on the spot, but I put everybody on the spot, so you're not alone. I know. I'm trying to think. So I'm like kind of weird because I don't have like a lot of favorites, you know, like I like a bunch of different music, but I don't know if I don't have like a favorite artist of all time. Okay, so I'm trying to think. I don't know who I would put, yeah, because it would have to be someone who, like it can't just be a singer, right, like you need like a performer. Yeah, yeah, So it can't just be it can't just be someone with like a great voice. It has to be someone who can thoroughly entertain an audience.

Okay, Okay, so I think the big takeaway here is Lisa Boube pretty charger.

Okay, Okay, so I think the big takeaway here is Lisa Boube pretty charger.

Although she's like crazy now, so she might like bring out knives and but then that could be interesting. That's a per comments, right.

Although she's like crazy now, so she might like bring out knives and but then that could be interesting. That's a per comments, right.

And it's all about TV viewerships and interests. So I would say that's a pretty good one, right. Other than Kanye West, I don't know who would be more of a loose can than Britney Spears.

And it's all about TV viewerships and interests. So I would say that's a pretty good one, right. Other than Kanye West, I don't know who would be more of a loose can than Britney Spears.

I like it, although I have to admit that I really got that one wrong because I was like all about free Brittany, and now I'm like, maybe she shouldn't be free after saying, you know, some of the videos that she posts to Instagram. So yeah, I kind of I botched that one.

I like it, although I have to admit that I really got that one wrong because I was like all about free Brittany, and now I'm like, maybe she shouldn't be free after saying, you know, some of the videos that she posts to Instagram. So yeah, I kind of I botched that one.

Well hey that I mean, I've gotten the last five Super Bowl wrong, so you can get Free Britney wrong or even.

Well hey that I mean, I've gotten the last five Super Bowl wrong, so you can get Free Britney wrong or even.

Yeah, yeah you can't. The part of it was they were making her work and so it's like, if she's as bad as they were saying, why are you monopoly? You know, why why are you trying to make money off of her? Right? So yeah, I don't you know, I don't know. The whole thing was uh, you know, suspect and then you know, now she you know, she's telling everyone she's fine, and you know she doesn't look fine. So all right, Bobby, well you know we're going to see if your prediction was right or not.

Yeah, yeah you can't. The part of it was they were making her work and so it's like, if she's as bad as they were saying, why are you monopoly? You know, why why are you trying to make money off of her? Right? So yeah, I don't you know, I don't know. The whole thing was uh, you know, suspect and then you know, now she you know, she's telling everyone she's fine, and you know she doesn't look fine. So all right, Bobby, well you know we're going to see if your prediction was right or not.

So we are. And just like you were the first person to predict that Dion Standers was going to lose, people forget about that, right, everybody was on the Dion Sanders train. And then one Saturday Lisa Booth jumped on The Big Saturday Show and question how good of a coach Dion Sanders was, and a couple hours later he lost. Then he kept on losing it and make a mistake. I've told some of the sports networks if they want to analysts call Lisa.

So we are. And just like you were the first person to predict that Dion Standers was going to lose, people forget about that, right, everybody was on the Dion Sanders train. And then one Saturday Lisa Booth jumped on The Big Saturday Show and question how good of a coach Dion Sanders was, and a couple hours later he lost. Then he kept on losing it and make a mistake. I've told some of the sports networks if they want to analysts call Lisa.

You know, no one called. I will say, in fairness, I did admit that I phoned a friend and the phone was the friend was my dad, so it was his prediction. I did give him proper credit, but so you know, I would need to phone him every time I'm on So that might be why I didn't get the calls that we were expecting. I don't know. Just spend that out there.

You know, no one called. I will say, in fairness, I did admit that I phoned a friend and the phone was the friend was my dad, so it was his prediction. I did give him proper credit, but so you know, I would need to phone him every time I'm on So that might be why I didn't get the calls that we were expecting. I don't know. Just spend that out there.

I thought maybe I was losing my touch.

I thought maybe I was losing my touch.

All right, everybody go follow up? You know Bobby where you know OutKick? Where else can people read your work? Find you?

All right, everybody go follow up? You know Bobby where you know OutKick? Where else can people read your work? Find you?

Yeah? OutKick. I do a lot of interviews throughout the week on different networks and podcasts and radio shows. So you can find me on Twitter, OutKick dot com, and uh, it should be good. I'm not actually not on any other social media platform. I know I should be because I just said that you should be. But fortunately right now I'm only on Twitter, and.

Yeah? OutKick. I do a lot of interviews throughout the week on different networks and podcasts and radio shows. So you can find me on Twitter, OutKick dot com, and uh, it should be good. I'm not actually not on any other social media platform. I know I should be because I just said that you should be. But fortunately right now I'm only on Twitter, and.

Uh, what's your Twitter again? Because it's not just your name right because I feel like I've had a.

Uh, what's your Twitter again? Because it's not just your name right because I feel like I've had a.

Yeah, this is kind of a sore subject. So I'm stuck at at Burrak Bobby Underscore because somebody in twenty thirteen took my name Bobby Burrack and I can't get it back, and the account is not active, has been active in eleven years, but I can't have it. So I have this stupid name that makes me look like some troll or fanboy or egg account, but unfortunately, yeah it's at Burrak Bobby Underscore.

Yeah, this is kind of a sore subject. So I'm stuck at at Burrak Bobby Underscore because somebody in twenty thirteen took my name Bobby Burrack and I can't get it back, and the account is not active, has been active in eleven years, but I can't have it. So I have this stupid name that makes me look like some troll or fanboy or egg account, but unfortunately, yeah it's at Burrak Bobby Underscore.

Well, I was only saying that because I know I've tried to tag you before, and then I was like, wait, you know what I mean.

Well, I was only saying that because I know I've tried to tag you before, and then I was like, wait, you know what I mean.

So yeah, well.

So yeah, well.

That is rude and hopefully you can get it back one day. Always going to talk to you my friends. You're a great friends, a great writer, and always a great interview. So appreciate you taking the time.

That is rude and hopefully you can get it back one day. Always going to talk to you my friends. You're a great friends, a great writer, and always a great interview. So appreciate you taking the time.

Hey, you really appreciate it anytime.

Hey, you really appreciate it anytime.

That was Bobby Brooke with OutKick. Go check out his work. He's a great guy, great friend. Appreciate him making the time. Appreciate you listening at home every Monday and Thursday, but you can listen throughout the week. I want to thank John Cassio and my producer for putting the show together. Until next time,

That was Bobby Brooke with OutKick. Go check out his work. He's a great guy, great friend. Appreciate him making the time. Appreciate you listening at home every Monday and Thursday, but you can listen throughout the week. I want to thank John Cassio and my producer for putting the show together. Until next time,