Ahead of the expected release of the matric results later today, those in the education sector are still questioning governments focus on quantity vs quality. Over the years it's always been about how many matriculants have passed over how many obtained good marks in key subjects. So this morning we've invited two academics to get their perspective on the state of matric in the country. Where would they say the system is letting down the learners and what are the long-term effects for tertiary and boosting industry? To help us through this conversation, we are joined by…

Guest: Professor Brahm Fleisch - Professor of Education Policy in the Division of Education Leadership, Policy and Skills at Wits

Guest: Professor Ramodungoane Tabane - School Director at the School of Educational Studies at Unisa