A lot has been bubbling away when it comes to vaccines. There are protests around mandates, concerns about vaccine equity, and China is taking its own approach to the pandemic. The girls ask whether all this noise is really about jabs - or is there something else going on? Their music picks could not be more different this week which is a good thing - cos variety, spice of life stuff, you know...

<p>A lot has been bubbling away when it comes to vaccines. There are protests around mandates, concerns about vaccine equity, and China is taking its own approach to the pandemic. The girls ask whether all this noise is really about jabs - or is there something else going on? Their music picks could not be more different this week which is a good thing - cos variety, spice of life stuff, you know...</p>

Formerly The Best Podcast Ever

Michelle and Kumi are journalists who met on Twitter and became friends. They're both curious, and concerned, about why the left and the right is so polarised and why the murky, grey areas of life are not being discussed. So, they dig in every week and chat off-the-cuff about the stuff between. They don't always agree, but that's OK. And their music taste differs - but is truly impeccable.

Kumi Taguchi and Michelle Stephenson met on twitter in a pandemic. This is their story.

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