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On Wednesday, GOP presidential nominee Donald Trump made an appearance at the National Association of Black Journalist conference that's the NABJ, where he sat down for and n IF You, moderated by ABC News correspondent Rachel Scott, Fox News host Harris Faulkner, and Semaphore reporter Katie Goba. During the discussion with Trump, Rachel Scott's opening question to Trump was about his past racial comments, and needless to say, Trump had a noteworthy response, gonna, I'm not gonna even into fear.
I want y'all to see this for yourself. Let's go to the video tape, play tape.
You have pushed false claims about some of your rivals, from Nicki Haley to former President Barack Obama, saying that they were not born in the United States, which is not true. You have told who were Congressman Wounic Color, who were American citizens, to go back to where they came from. You have used words like animal and rabbit to describe black district attorneys. You've attacked black journalists, calling them a loser, saying the questions that they ask are quote stupid and racist. You've had dinner with a white supremacists at your Marologue resort. So my question, sir, now that you are asking black supporters to vote for you, why should black voters trust you after you have used language like that.
Well, first of all, I don't think I've ever been asked a question so in such a horrible manner. A first question, you don't even say, hello, how are you? I love the black population of this country. I've done so much for the black population of this country, including employment, including Opportunity Zones with Senator Tim Scott of South Carolina, which is one of the greatest programs ever for black workers and black entrepreneurs.
I've done so much.
And you know, and I say this, Historically, black colleges and universities were out of money. There were stone call broke, and I saved them and I gave them long term financing and nobody else.
Was doing it.
I think it's a very rude introduction. I don't know exactly why you would do something like that. I have been the best president for the black population since Abraham Lincoln.
Wow. Well you heard Trump there.
And there have been many questioning the decision to have Trump at the conference at all, including my friend Roland Martin.
As we discussed on yesterday's show.
The decision was also denounced by Black Enterprise CEO Earl Butch Graves Junior, who decided to withdraw from his appearance on a separate panel discussion at the conference. Before I even get into that, let me say this about what Trump had to say just now, or what you just saw him say. I had no problem with the question that Rachel Scott asked. Rachel Scott is an outstanding reporter and correspondent for ABC.
What she said and the question that she posed was accurate.
You're showing up to the National Association for Black Journalists as a presidential candidate, particularly one on the conservative side, where you know the vast majority of African Americans are not going to vote, you have to expect piercing questions that are gonna make you uncomfortable. And instead of Trump responding the way I believe he should have, which I'll get into in a second, he showed his petulance, his belligerents, his immaturity, and his lack of leadership as far as I'm concerned in terms of being presidential and understanding of the coron that should come with a position.
Now here's the deal. If you are.
Trump, you're looking at Rachel Scott. You know what you should have said, what you should have brought up was some of the things you tried Tolu to. You know, when you think about Trump's economic policies and how it helped black voters in his first term, there's a lot of people that make that argument about him. There's a lot of people that say that the economy was thriving before COVID came about.
They talked about that. They talked about how he.
Should compare his record against the Biden record, particularly with inflation ravaging our country at this particular moment in time.
They talked about that. They also talked that he also should have talked.
About more specifically what he's done for historically black colleges and universities. I know Roland Martin alluded to him potentially not telling the truth about that. But Trump should have made his case. Okay, he should have made his case if there was a case to make.
Okay.
He should have talked about low inflation during this term. He should have talked about the economy being robust.
Okay.
He should have talked about border control and how open borders which has taken place since the Bidy And administration has taken office, is something that we've all meant it since ten and a half million immigrants have crossed the United States borders illegally. We should have talked about those things and all you have to do is answer the damn question. But instead he's like, you.
Didn't even say hello, how are you? And all of this other stuff.
I mean, come on, come on now and then and see, this is the thing that bothers me too, because I'm watching.
Harris Falkton on Fox News.
I'm not gonna denigrate and disrespect her, but I watched her on.
Fox News this afternoon, the day after.
This panel discussion took place, or this discussion with the former president took place, and there were three panelists, there were three moderators.
Harris Faulkner was one of them.
And she's sitting there there talking about how it didn't go the way that it was supposed to go, and watching Trump's deputy communications director I forgot her name, lamb baseding Rachel Scott and Coba and Gobra rather and talked about they were unprofessional?
How are they unprofessional? How are they unprofessional? Harris? You were up there with them.
I understand that you're working at Fox News and you don't necessarily want to go after a former president Donald Trump the way Brett Bear may have when he asked them very poignant questions. Go back to Fox News from a year ago or so. Watch Brett Bear's interview with Donald Trump and the questions he asked the former president, especially when he picked them apart on how Trump proclaims to hire great people to work for him, yet numerous people that used to work for him wouldn't endorse him, and he called them all types of names all over the place, like ten eleven different people.
And Brett Bear dissected.
It with a two Combe used his quote, said what he quoted, what he said about each individual, and asked him the question. Rachel Scott pretty much did the same thing. What's the problem And if you, Harris Faulkner, how you gonna let anybody go up there and talk about your colleague like that when you know they didn't do anything wrong. Asking tough questions is not a crime, especially coming from members of.
The fourth of State. That's what was supposed to be doing, and he knew in advance what was coming.
Now major major props to Donald Trump because he's the first Republican candidate if I can recall to show up at the NABJ. Yes, they've interviewed candidates before, but it was usually via satellite.
It wasn't them showing up in person.
He showed up in person or be it at twelve o'clock Central Standard time on a Wednesday, which is the first day, which is when most people wouldn't be there.
Fine, fair enough, though he showed up. He showed up.
But I think that he dropped the ball and he missed an opportunity. And why did he miss an opportunity? Because instead of showing his knowledge as the former president, what he was privy to, and the information that could have debunked or knocked down some of the accusations that were being thrown against them in his estimation, he went to the same old, same old, his petulant route. I mean, it's very rude, very nasty. Now we can't sit up there and point to racism. Why can't we point to racism?
You know why?
Because Rachel Scott asked the question when Caitlyn Collins for CNN was asking him question when she interviewed in one on one in front of a town hall. He calls her questions nasty and rude. He's turned against anybody. If you ain't pro Trump, you anti Trump. And he acts the same petulant, belligerent, disrespectful, rude in mature way towards everyone. He's equal opportunity. So when you bring up race, all white folks are going to do, or anybody who supports him is going to do. Is showed the litany of other people he said the same thing about who don't happen to be black?
That ain't the argument to make against him, It really really isn't.
But having said all of that, he's still had it wrong. He still missed an opportunity, and just a couple of weeks after a failed assassination attempt against him.
Where he had the ultimate visual.
With the American flag behind him while Secret Service agents are surrounded him, while he raised his fist and talked about fight, fight, fight, while blood was trickling down his ear and the side of the right side of his face. He had it all and all he had to do was chill and try to be presidential and let other people spew their rhetoric.
But he didn't do it.
He didn't do it at all, and as a result, now we're back to talking about that Trump that we wanted out of office because he was too divisive, and we can't. And this is where I'm disgusted. I'm personally disgusted by Trump because I wanted him to take advantage of the moment to force us all to look at his policies and how he governed and suppose that to how Kamala Harris would govern based on some of the policies she may have supported, so we can decide what is best for America. But we don't get to do that now. And we don't get to do that because when he acts like that, we know how divisive he's going to be. We suspect he's gonna be on a revenge tour. We don't know if he'll govern because of it.
Okay.
Then we hear about Project twenty twenty five, which is really about the Heritage Foundation and some of their ideas as it pertains to a conservative movement that they're going that they've been putting out there for conservative pundits and elected officials to follow. And we're gonna bring that up, okay, and we're going to speculate about what role Trump plays because some of his former employees and what have you were people that were working on Project twenty twenty five. And even though that's a political issue and I'm all for discussing that's as we already have on this show, my problem with it is that we don't get to get into the real issues. I'm not talking about Project twenty twenty five there. I'm talking about his behavior and how that's the focus instead of what he has to offer the black community compared to what Kamala Harris would offer. Because remember in twenty sixteen, where Trump really really made noise is when he showed up I believe it was in Detroit, Michigan at the time, and a bevy of other places. He looked at folks in the audience who happened to be black, and he said to them, what are your got to lose? In other words, the Democratic Party hasn't done anything for y'all.
That's what he was saying. And yeah, some people saying, hum, so one man, he.
Gets six percent of the vote and then in twenty twenty gets eight percent of the black vote, and they were speculating that nowra can grow to eighteen to twenty percent for this election, and then he acts like that, and then you find yourself saying, oh, hell no, hell no, we don't need more of this for four more years.
We don't need this. We need an adult in the room.
We need somebody's gonna govern, We need somebody's gonna act.
Right.
This is what pisses me off, because he's gotten us away from comparing his record in governing to that of Kamala Harris to us now focusing on his behavior. I'll get back to more of that in a second, because that wasn't the only thing that Trump did. Don't let me get started with what he said about the vice president. I'll get back to that in the moment. Let me transition for a quick second to Butch Graves Junior, because he issued a statement, you know, the CEO for Black Enterprise.
He walked away from a panel discussion that he was supposed to have just this.
Morning at the NABJ conference, and he issued this statement quote, I must emphatically state that I disagree with the decision of the leadership of NABJ to develop a panel featuring one presidential candidate, in this case, Donald Trump, in a session that does not include any black media organizations and for that matter, black male journalist. It appears that this panel was developed to accommodate the presumed Republican nominee and not potentially ask any of the difficult questions to garner responses that black people want, need, and deserve to hear. In fact, this decision was indeed one of folly and cowardice and not in keeping with the historic tradition of the NABJ and Black media as a whole. Let me say this to you. I'm not gonna say that the people up there weren't doing their job with the questions that they were asking. But I don't blame mister Graves for making his decision one bit. There is no excuse while at the NABJ that former President Donald Trump didn't have a representative from a black media organization asking him questions. There's no excuse for that, zero zero zan ABJ. It's the National Association with Black Journalists. How can a black owned media business not play a role in an interview in the president That was egregious.
He's right about that.
He's also right about a man not being up there asking him a question, just like it would have been wrong to have three men up there asking questions. It's wrong to have just women up there asking Donald Trump questions. Wrong, And it's yet the latest example of the thoughtlessness on the part of the NABJ.
There's no way around that. That's how I feel about it.
I completely understand where he's coming from because on far too many occasions in the past I've looked at some of the decisions that have been made by the NABJ, and I'm like, what are you thinking? What are you possibly thinking? So I don't blame him one bit. I don't blame him one bit. Having said all of that, I have more than that on my mind. It's the Vice president. I'll get to her and mister Trump in just a second. You're watching the Stephen A. Smith Show over the digital airways of YouTube and listening to it on iHeartRadio.
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More on Donald Trump. You know he made more headlines during his appearance at the NABJ. If you can't beat him, then question their ethnic origin. It appears Rachel Scott once again asks Trump if he believes com Harris was.
A quote unquote Dr Higher. Take a listen to his response.
Do you believe that Vice President Kamala Harris is only on the ticket because she is a black woman?
Well, I can say no.
I think it's maybe a little bit different. So I've known her a long time, indirectly, not directly very much, and she was always of Indian heritage, and she was only promoting Indian heritage. I didn't know she was black until a number of years ago when she happened to turn black. And now she wants to be known as black. So I don't know is she Indian or is she.
She is always college.
I respect either one, but she obviously doesn't because she was Indian all the way and then all of a sudden, she made a turn and she went she.
Became a black.
Just to be I think somebody should look into that too, when you ask a continue in a very hostile, nasty town.
Jesus, ladies and gentlemen, of vice president in the United States is multiracial. She has also been a member of the Congressional Black Black Caucus as a Senator. She's a graduate of Howard University and historically Black College. So Trump saying what he said. It's just annoying. It's just annoying. You know, when we look at original cons at our original Constitution, what have you, and it talks about black folks.
Being three fifths of a man.
For example, if you had a spec of black in you throughout history, particularly with white racist in America, at the very least in the past, you had a spec of black in you, you would consider black.
So let's get that out the way.
Number two, just looking at Trump and wondering what in God's name you're trying to accomplish. And then I thought about what I said on Cuomo on News Nation last night with Chris Cuomo, and he talked about what was towards Trump's objective, what could he possibly be thinking by saying some of the things that he's saying. And one of the conclusions I deduced was that you know something, you know, most of us, whether right or left.
Lean towards the center.
We like compromise, We want to be reasonable, We want to make sure that there's de quorum and professionalism and decency in our society. There are folks that operate on the fringes and they squealed the loudest and we hear them, and a lot of times if you're thinking about Trump, as is the case with other politicians on both sides, from time to time, to be fair, you want to appeal to your followers, your constituents, to make sure they know that you're still that dude. See when you look at some of the American citizens that rally behind Trump. You know, Hillary Rodalm Clinton was wrong when she called you know, some of them deplorables and stuff like that was wrong.
It's the wrong thing to say.
Okay, I'm telling you right now, each and every single one of us work with Trump supporters. We work alongside them, we work for them, We've used to work for them, We mingle with them or whatever. Everybody's not gonna be honest and forthcoming about their support for him. But make no mistake about it. There's a whole bunch of people. You don't get seventy four million votes and all of them stand in front and center saying, yeah, he's my guy.
No, a lot of them ain't gonna say anything.
They just go to the polls and they pull that lever for him, or they press that button for him. Make no mistake, that's how it goes down. And so when we sit up there and we allow ourselves to engage in and sending every rhetoric for anybody that would support him, because we think about some of the things that he says as opposed to a lot of the things that they believe he may have done. All we're doing is being transparent and our vitrioll towards somebody else that could potentially do us harm. We don't know, because they'll know how we think about them, and they won't admit it, but they'll say so quietly. But in the end, what I'm trying to say is this, you're Trump. What's the number one reason Let's get down to this. What's the number one thing Trump follows? Love about Trump? Let me tell you what it is that he doesn't give a shit that he talks smack about politicians on Capitol Hill, about the policies that they put forth, about a society that he believes they've contaminated. He's given a voice to the voiceless because there's a whole bunch of people, millions upon millions of people out there that felt that Capitol Hill and the residual impact it had on our society, they felt they weren't being heard and they were being cast aside, and then Trump comes along and he speaks their language. They don't want him showing the choral They don't want him being respectful. They don't mind if he's a bit misogynist that. They don't mind if he's a bit xenophobic, they don't mind.
If he's disrespectful. They don't care because it's what they want to do. But why do they want.
To do that Because they believe that folks on Capitol Hill have gotten away with far too much and they don't want to hear compromise.
They believe the.
Degradation of our society is We've witnessed things transpire over the years.
It's their fault.
And Trump is gonna sit up there and he's gonna have control, and he's gonna make them march lockstep with him, or he's gonna assist and getting rid of him.
And they love it, and they love it.
But what he said about the Vice President Kamala Harris was wrong, it was off, it was disrespectful.
It's no cause for it unless you believe it.
Appeals to folks far more than we realize.
And that's what Trump believes. And that's what he's playing towards now.
After hearing of Trump's comments, Harris of course had her response at a campaign rally in Houston yesterday.
Take a look, it was the same old show, the divisiveness and the disrespect.
And let me just say, the American people.
Deserve better, Yes, the American people deserve better. They deserve better than him acting that way. They deserve better than a petulant child disguised as a grown man running for the highest office in the land. But folks ain't trying to hear that because they're looking at how he's governed. They're looking at the economy, they're looking at security, they're looking at crime, they're looking at our borders. They're looking at all of these things. And that's what Trump should have focused on somewhere along the way. Kamala Harris is going to have to focus on that too at some point.
Now.
As it pertains to Trump, Trump has repeatedly attacked as opponents and critics on the basis of race he rose to prominence and Republican politics. Were false theories that former President of Barack Obama, the nation's first black president, was not born in the United States, birth is and remember that, because that's what it became known as. Was just the start of Trump's history of questioning the credentials and qualifications of black politicians. Vice President Kamala Harris is the daughter of a Jamaican father and a former prominent professor at Stafford University, and had an Indian mother who is a biomedical scientist at the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory, both immigrants to the United States. Trump seems to have difficulty understanding that people can be multiracial in some people's eyes. In my eyes, he's just going back to a familiar playbook because it works for him.
That's really what it comes down to.