Welcome to this latest edition of The stephen A. Smith Show, coming at you as I love to do over the digital airways of YouTube, and of course iHeartRadio. This is a special edition because I've got a special guest in studio. Now you have seen her before, you've heard her come at me before, you see me stand down, because you know, I mean, when I'm getting checked, I have to be careful about these things. I got to watch my verbiage, my body language, but the meana everything. But before I even introduce you to who this person is that is my next guest right here sitting next to me in studio, let me remind y'all of who she is by showing y'all her last appearance right here on the stephen A. Smith Show. Take a look at this please, like you can disagree with it, but you're acting like, oh my lord. If they were to decide not to support and they wanted a Kamala Harris, or they wanted a Newsom, or they wanted Wes Moore out of Maryland, who, by the way, I think would be a incredible candidate. If they wanted somebody like that, it's like you're throwing like you're throwing a party under the bus.

Welcome to this latest edition of The stephen A. Smith Show, coming at you as I love to do over the digital airways of YouTube, and of course iHeartRadio. This is a special edition because I've got a special guest in studio. Now you have seen her before, you've heard her come at me before, you see me stand down, because you know, I mean, when I'm getting checked, I have to be careful about these things. I got to watch my verbiage, my body language, but the meana everything. But before I even introduce you to who this person is that is my next guest right here sitting next to me in studio, let me remind y'all of who she is by showing y'all her last appearance right here on the stephen A. Smith Show. Take a look at this please, like you can disagree with it, but you're acting like, oh my lord. If they were to decide not to support and they wanted a Kamala Harris, or they wanted a Newsom, or they wanted Wes Moore out of Maryland, who, by the way, I think would be a incredible candidate. If they wanted somebody like that, it's like you're throwing like you're throwing a party under the bus.

What I'm acting like is we got to stay the course and try to stay united, and all of these other conversations are distractions. I say that, and I say it honequivocally. They are distractions because we got work to do, and the work is not trying to decide who is going to replace Joe Biden.

What I'm acting like is we got to stay the course and try to stay united, and all of these other conversations are distractions. I say that, and I say it honequivocally. They are distractions because we got work to do, and the work is not trying to decide who is going to replace Joe Biden.

Okay, well, I unequivocally disagree with you there, Reva, and you and I will be talking about this moving forward. I'm not giving it to this opinion. Reef, I'm not giving it to it. And that's right. I did it, given and low and behold. This weekend, the President of the United States, Joe Biden, has decided to step aside. Incomes Kamala Harris, the Vice President of the United States, who's received every endorsement under the son with the exception of the Obama which is something we'll get into in a second. Now, the one and only Arriva Martin. Welcome to the show. Civil rights attorney, also a Democratic delegate based out of California. Let's not forget that, legal affairs analyst. Extraordinary. Good to see you again, my pleasure. How are you? I mean, I tried, I tried to tell y'all.

Okay, well, I unequivocally disagree with you there, Reva, and you and I will be talking about this moving forward. I'm not giving it to this opinion. Reef, I'm not giving it to it. And that's right. I did it, given and low and behold. This weekend, the President of the United States, Joe Biden, has decided to step aside. Incomes Kamala Harris, the Vice President of the United States, who's received every endorsement under the son with the exception of the Obama which is something we'll get into in a second. Now, the one and only Arriva Martin. Welcome to the show. Civil rights attorney, also a Democratic delegate based out of California. Let's not forget that, legal affairs analyst. Extraordinary. Good to see you again, my pleasure. How are you? I mean, I tried, I tried to tell y'all.

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I tried to tell y'all it needed to happen. How do you feel now that it actually has happened that Kamala Harris is going to be the nominee for the presidency of the United States.

I tried to tell y'all it needed to happen. How do you feel now that it actually has happened that Kamala Harris is going to be the nominee for the presidency of the United States.

I feel like it was all divine order, and I was trying to tell you what needed to happen was going to happen.

I feel like it was all divine order, and I was trying to tell you what needed to happen was going to happen.

Really, that's not how I recall.

Really, that's not how I recall.

I recall that you can't interpret what I'm saying to you here.

I recall that you can't interpret what I'm saying to you here.

Okay, well go ahead.

Okay, well go ahead.

I was trying to tell you whatever needed to happen.

I was trying to tell you whatever needed to happen.

To remember, I told you that if they stepped over Kamala Harris, we would blow the party up.

To remember, I told you that if they stepped over Kamala Harris, we would blow the party up.

That was almost a year ago. I completely agree with that, that that wasn't your last appearance or rebuff.

That was almost a year ago. I completely agree with that, that that wasn't your last appearance or rebuff.

The tape I told you that you did went viral because everybody else agreed with that, and now you see what's happening.

The tape I told you that you did went viral because everybody else agreed with that, and now you see what's happening.

I didn't disagree with it. I was simply saying, your last appearance, you were getting on everybody who was calling for the president to step aside.

I didn't disagree with it. I was simply saying, your last appearance, you were getting on everybody who was calling for the president to step aside.

It wasn't time Stephen A. Smith, it wasn't time look at the strategy, look at what Joe Biden did. Donald Trump went to the RNC convention. He built a whole campaign around being the younger guy and getting rid of the older guy. They got bumper stickers, they say, f Biden.

It wasn't time Stephen A. Smith, it wasn't time look at the strategy, look at what Joe Biden did. Donald Trump went to the RNC convention. He built a whole campaign around being the younger guy and getting rid of the older guy. They got bumper stickers, they say, f Biden.

And look what we did.

And look what we did.

We pulled a switch of root on them. They built their whole strategy around that.

We pulled a switch of root on them. They built their whole strategy around that.

And guess what.

And guess what.

It ain't the old guy, it's the young articulate's smart, brilliant, fabulous, Kamala Harris.

It ain't the old guy, it's the young articulate's smart, brilliant, fabulous, Kamala Harris.

Now they gotta go and rework their whole strategy. We outstrategized them.

Now they gotta go and rework their whole strategy. We outstrategized them.

This ain't just this, This ain't this is chess that.

This ain't just this, This ain't this is chess that.

The Democrats and why Okay, we can move on from this in a second. But I must ask, it wasn't you. I mean, I know that I listened pretty well. It was was it not you who specifically said it is entirely too late. There is no way you got to have delegates in every state. There is no way that at this particular juncture you have enough time to have someone different than Joe Biden.

The Democrats and why Okay, we can move on from this in a second. But I must ask, it wasn't you. I mean, I know that I listened pretty well. It was was it not you who specifically said it is entirely too late. There is no way you got to have delegates in every state. There is no way that at this particular juncture you have enough time to have someone different than Joe Biden.

That wasn't you, That was me, And it was all a part of the strategy. Dude, It wasn't time to call for Joe Biden to step aside. I am a true blue ten toes down Democrat.

That wasn't you, That was me, And it was all a part of the strategy. Dude, It wasn't time to call for Joe Biden to step aside. I am a true blue ten toes down Democrat.

So you just so. In other words, you was talking to me and you were just strategizing. You knew this was gonna happen on the law. You just wanted to say this.

So you just so. In other words, you was talking to me and you were just strategizing. You knew this was gonna happen on the law. You just wanted to say this.

You want to put my inside of crabs on you. Just just say that it was strategy. Okay, Just trust me, Okay, trust that I know what.

You want to put my inside of crabs on you. Just just say that it was strategy. Okay, Just trust me, Okay, trust that I know what.

I'm talking about.

I'm talking about.

How worried were you when the former president got shot and you saw the country rallying around him from the standpoint in nearly being assassinated, the blood trickling down his face, to secure Secret Service around him, the American flag in the background. I thought that was toast for Joe Biden, then the Democratic Party for this election. When I saw that photo, What are you feeling right like at that moment?

How worried were you when the former president got shot and you saw the country rallying around him from the standpoint in nearly being assassinated, the blood trickling down his face, to secure Secret Service around him, the American flag in the background. I thought that was toast for Joe Biden, then the Democratic Party for this election. When I saw that photo, What are you feeling right like at that moment?

I at poor violence. I definitely don't want to see anyone shot, whether you're the president or you are the kid in the neighborhood. But I had no doubts that that would not I wasn't concerned that that was going to change the trajectory of the election. In fact, I was in Las Vegas at a spa and women said, it's an ear he ain't dead, please don't ruin.

I at poor violence. I definitely don't want to see anyone shot, whether you're the president or you are the kid in the neighborhood. But I had no doubts that that would not I wasn't concerned that that was going to change the trajectory of the election. In fact, I was in Las Vegas at a spa and women said, it's an ear he ain't dead, please don't ruin.

My spa dayness.

My spa dayness.

So I know there was some part of the country that was very, very concerned, But there was also parts of the country that said, look, what we've been talking about is gun violence and the need for sensible gun laws. And now the very person that's been blocking that has been shot by someone using the same kind of gun that we've seen used in school shootings, we've seen in mall shootings, we've seen in grocery store shootings. So I thought it was going to be an opportunity for the Democrats to talk about why we need to be serious about sensible gun control law. So I didn't see it as now Donald Trump's going to get the sympathy vote. I saw it as now Democrats are going to see the need to push even harder for the House, for the Senate so that we can do something to get guns like that off the street. So don't want to use anyone's tragedy, but I did see it as an opportunity to talk about an issue that's very important.

So I know there was some part of the country that was very, very concerned, But there was also parts of the country that said, look, what we've been talking about is gun violence and the need for sensible gun laws. And now the very person that's been blocking that has been shot by someone using the same kind of gun that we've seen used in school shootings, we've seen in mall shootings, we've seen in grocery store shootings. So I thought it was going to be an opportunity for the Democrats to talk about why we need to be serious about sensible gun control law. So I didn't see it as now Donald Trump's going to get the sympathy vote. I saw it as now Democrats are going to see the need to push even harder for the House, for the Senate so that we can do something to get guns like that off the street. So don't want to use anyone's tragedy, but I did see it as an opportunity to talk about an issue that's very important.

Riva Martin, I got to ask you this question because I'm not going to say too much about the President other than this His years of service. Thirty six years in the Senate for eight years, and as a Vice president, four years in the White House as our commander in chief. That's forty eight years of service to this country. And to me, I was getting pretty annoyed at everybody trying to act as if he was being disrespected because we were calling for his exit. There's nothing wrong with looking at some and saying, we really really appreciate all that you've done, it's time for somebody else. That person now appears to be Kamala Harrison. By all accounts. Chuck Schumer endorsed her today, Nancy Pelosi endorsed her recently. We know that, along with practically everybody else, the Clintons, etc. The Obamas have been conspicuously quiet. Is that a cause for concern in your mind?

Riva Martin, I got to ask you this question because I'm not going to say too much about the President other than this His years of service. Thirty six years in the Senate for eight years, and as a Vice president, four years in the White House as our commander in chief. That's forty eight years of service to this country. And to me, I was getting pretty annoyed at everybody trying to act as if he was being disrespected because we were calling for his exit. There's nothing wrong with looking at some and saying, we really really appreciate all that you've done, it's time for somebody else. That person now appears to be Kamala Harrison. By all accounts. Chuck Schumer endorsed her today, Nancy Pelosi endorsed her recently. We know that, along with practically everybody else, the Clintons, etc. The Obamas have been conspicuously quiet. Is that a cause for concern in your mind?

Well, let me address what you first said.

Well, let me address what you first said.

Sure, I kind of agree that there becomes a time when a leader needs to pass the baton, pass the torch, and if that was the case with Joe Biden, and a lot of people felt that it was, a lot of people felt that it was not. Though don't forget fourteen million people voted in the primaries for Joe Biden.

Sure, I kind of agree that there becomes a time when a leader needs to pass the baton, pass the torch, and if that was the case with Joe Biden, and a lot of people felt that it was, a lot of people felt that it was not. Though don't forget fourteen million people voted in the primaries for Joe Biden.

I think What made many of us.

I think What made many of us.

Upset, and I'm one of them, was not so much those people that did what you just did, talked about the record and then talked about the need to move on. That's very different than what we saw from some of the donor class, some of the party elites, those people who were holding the party hostage, saying, if this man doesn't step aside, we're not going to give another dime.

Upset, and I'm one of them, was not so much those people that did what you just did, talked about the record and then talked about the need to move on. That's very different than what we saw from some of the donor class, some of the party elites, those people who were holding the party hostage, saying, if this man doesn't step aside, we're not going to give another dime.

And I felt that was incredibly not.

And I felt that was incredibly not.

Only disrespectful to Joe Biden, but hurtful to the people that live in neighborhoods that don't have a yacht, don't have a plane to get in, can't go anywhere when Donald Trump wins the presidency, and now you're tying up those resources that Democrats needed, not just for the presidential elections. We're talking about the house races, we're talking about the Senate races. So you're going to hold the whole country hostage because you don't get your way. That's what petulant children do. That's not what responsible, mature donors should do. And we don't want a party where the billionaire class tells us what.

Only disrespectful to Joe Biden, but hurtful to the people that live in neighborhoods that don't have a yacht, don't have a plane to get in, can't go anywhere when Donald Trump wins the presidency, and now you're tying up those resources that Democrats needed, not just for the presidential elections. We're talking about the house races, we're talking about the Senate races. So you're going to hold the whole country hostage because you don't get your way. That's what petulant children do. That's not what responsible, mature donors should do. And we don't want a party where the billionaire class tells us what.

To do the regular voting people.

To do the regular voting people.

Because now we are no better than the Republican that's fair. But if they're trying to get to the same finish line that you're trying to get to, they're trying to ensure that the Democratic Party keeps Donald Trump out of office. And they saw that debate on June twenty seven, and they saw the slippage in Joe Biden, and that was the precipice or that was the motivation for their ultra concern. Isn't that to be appreciated.

Because now we are no better than the Republican that's fair. But if they're trying to get to the same finish line that you're trying to get to, they're trying to ensure that the Democratic Party keeps Donald Trump out of office. And they saw that debate on June twenty seven, and they saw the slippage in Joe Biden, and that was the precipice or that was the motivation for their ultra concern. Isn't that to be appreciated.

No, not at all, because seeing an issue and acting on that issue and acting in a way that can harm millions of everyday people very different to me. What we heard a lot of them say is we're not gonna fund the presidential elections, but we're gonna fund those down valid races. And when you talk to fund raisers, they'll tell you that wasn't happening. Many of these people threw in the towel. They were ready to run and give up the race. And that's not what we do as black women, as Democrats, we stand and we fight. So we had a crisis, a many crisis in our party. But the way to solve that crisis is not to withdraw the resources that are needed for those people who are knocking doors and making calls, we stand in and we fight. And that's why I'm super excited abou Kamala Harrison. I hope she was taking names and numbers, and I venture to say, you know, she's probably gonna help deal with those people that were our party hostage, because that is not the way to treat those people who've been out there working day in and day out.

No, not at all, because seeing an issue and acting on that issue and acting in a way that can harm millions of everyday people very different to me. What we heard a lot of them say is we're not gonna fund the presidential elections, but we're gonna fund those down valid races. And when you talk to fund raisers, they'll tell you that wasn't happening. Many of these people threw in the towel. They were ready to run and give up the race. And that's not what we do as black women, as Democrats, we stand and we fight. So we had a crisis, a many crisis in our party. But the way to solve that crisis is not to withdraw the resources that are needed for those people who are knocking doors and making calls, we stand in and we fight. And that's why I'm super excited abou Kamala Harrison. I hope she was taking names and numbers, and I venture to say, you know, she's probably gonna help deal with those people that were our party hostage, because that is not the way to treat those people who've been out there working day in and day out.

And so there are a lot of lessons.

And so there are a lot of lessons.

You know, after you have a crisis like that, we need to do an autopsy, right, we need to go look and say what happened? Did we wait too long?

You know, after you have a crisis like that, we need to do an autopsy, right, we need to go look and say what happened? Did we wait too long?

You know, did we rely too heavily?

You know, did we rely too heavily?

You saw the money that's been raised by grassroots people.

You saw the money that's been raised by grassroots people.

Nearly two and fifty million in more in about thirty six hours, in about thirty six hours.

Nearly two and fifty million in more in about thirty six hours, in about thirty six hours.

And that's not the billionaire class. So for me, it's always about the power of the people and the people when the people speak, that's what the Democratic Party should be listening to. And they are listening right now to the people.

And that's not the billionaire class. So for me, it's always about the power of the people and the people when the people speak, that's what the Democratic Party should be listening to. And they are listening right now to the people.

Now, before I get any further into our vice president who's now is now going to be the nominee for the presidency of the United States, representing the Democratic Party. Talk to me about your relationship with her. How well does Arieva Martin know Kamala Harris? How far back do y'all go. Let's make sure we give our audience perspective on the knowledge that you have of our vice president.

Now, before I get any further into our vice president who's now is now going to be the nominee for the presidency of the United States, representing the Democratic Party. Talk to me about your relationship with her. How well does Arieva Martin know Kamala Harris? How far back do y'all go. Let's make sure we give our audience perspective on the knowledge that you have of our vice president.

Yeah, we go back a long way. We are family friends. We've known each other since college, since about eighteen years old. We didn't go to the same college, as everybody knows. She went to Howard. She's very proud a graduate of Howard University. I went to University of Chicago, so at different colleges, but we met as we were both in college, and we have been family friends since then. I was talking to someone this morning about what like, why her, you know, why support her? And she was talking about donors in particular. I said, well, look for me. When anyone gets ready to run for office, first thing they do is call their friends and their family and say, hey, will you support me? Will you write that first check? Will you knock on those first doors for me? So I have been in it with her, you know, from the beginning, in terms of supporting her and being there for her. So, but I don't profess that. Someone asked me what job was I going to get into White House?

Yeah, we go back a long way. We are family friends. We've known each other since college, since about eighteen years old. We didn't go to the same college, as everybody knows. She went to Howard. She's very proud a graduate of Howard University. I went to University of Chicago, so at different colleges, but we met as we were both in college, and we have been family friends since then. I was talking to someone this morning about what like, why her, you know, why support her? And she was talking about donors in particular. I said, well, look for me. When anyone gets ready to run for office, first thing they do is call their friends and their family and say, hey, will you support me? Will you write that first check? Will you knock on those first doors for me? So I have been in it with her, you know, from the beginning, in terms of supporting her and being there for her. So, but I don't profess that. Someone asked me what job was I going to get into White House?

I said, I'm not that kind of friends.

I said, I'm not that kind of friends.

I ain't trying to borrow no money from me, I ain't trying to trade on favors. I just want to be as supportive and helpful not only to her but the entire party. So that's where I say, and I don't make a big deal out of that relationship other than people who know what they asked me about it. I think a lot of people have relationships with elected officials, and hopefully they respect what the job is that person has to do. They can't be the president, the vice president, the congress person for one person, for their friends, for their personal relationships. They have a job to do for everyone that gets them into those offices that vote for them. And that's what I love about her.

I ain't trying to borrow no money from me, I ain't trying to trade on favors. I just want to be as supportive and helpful not only to her but the entire party. So that's where I say, and I don't make a big deal out of that relationship other than people who know what they asked me about it. I think a lot of people have relationships with elected officials, and hopefully they respect what the job is that person has to do. They can't be the president, the vice president, the congress person for one person, for their friends, for their personal relationships. They have a job to do for everyone that gets them into those offices that vote for them. And that's what I love about her.

Why should folks feel confident about Kamala Harris in this upcoming election, the debates that will predictably precede the election and what have you. Why should anybody feel confident about her considering what happened when she ran for president against the Joe Biden then others four years ago, and how she performed at that particent kill a moment in time which was not very good.

Why should folks feel confident about Kamala Harris in this upcoming election, the debates that will predictably precede the election and what have you. Why should anybody feel confident about her considering what happened when she ran for president against the Joe Biden then others four years ago, and how she performed at that particent kill a moment in time which was not very good.

We are in a different moment. First of all, she's a different person. She's been tested on the national stage in the way that she had not been when she ran for her when she ran for president of twenty twenty, I was a part of her finance team, a part of her inner circle for that election or for that campaign that she ran. Very different. She's a different candidate. We are in a different time. At that time, she was in a primary, very crowded primary, with a lot of talented elected officials, many who've been in national politics as senators a lot longer than she had been. So that's first and foremost. And then look at what she has done, how she has evolved, the world leaders that she has met with, the room that the rooms that she has set in, and she's had the best mentor anyone can have if you're the vice president, that means you've been in all of those critical.

We are in a different moment. First of all, she's a different person. She's been tested on the national stage in the way that she had not been when she ran for her when she ran for president of twenty twenty, I was a part of her finance team, a part of her inner circle for that election or for that campaign that she ran. Very different. She's a different candidate. We are in a different time. At that time, she was in a primary, very crowded primary, with a lot of talented elected officials, many who've been in national politics as senators a lot longer than she had been. So that's first and foremost. And then look at what she has done, how she has evolved, the world leaders that she has met with, the room that the rooms that she has set in, and she's had the best mentor anyone can have if you're the vice president, that means you've been in all of those critical.

Meetings with the president.

Meetings with the president.

So she's had that kind of training that no one else that would be considered.

So she's had that kind of training that no one else that would be considered.

For the people were eva who believed that she didn't do much because she was muzzled and basically rendered damn near helpless body administration.

For the people were eva who believed that she didn't do much because she was muzzled and basically rendered damn near helpless body administration.

Even that is absolutely categorically false.

Even that is absolutely categorically false.

She didn't do much.

She didn't do much.

She has been leading the charge on reproductive justice. She has attended over one hundred reproductive justice reproductive rights events. She's the first vice president ever to visit an abortion clinic. She has been the most outspoken elected official on that issue. She has been next to Joe Biden on issues of student loan that relief sixteen billion dollars to HBCUs. Now you think that somebody other than Kamala Harris, a graduate of Howard University at Aka.

She has been leading the charge on reproductive justice. She has attended over one hundred reproductive justice reproductive rights events. She's the first vice president ever to visit an abortion clinic. She has been the most outspoken elected official on that issue. She has been next to Joe Biden on issues of student loan that relief sixteen billion dollars to HBCUs. Now you think that somebody other than Kamala Harris, a graduate of Howard University at Aka.

Is responsible for the largest amount ever dedicated to HBCUs. Are you gonna tell me that?

Is responsible for the largest amount ever dedicated to HBCUs. Are you gonna tell me that?

Somebody question? I'm just but who did that? These people that say she didn't do anything, who did that?

Somebody question? I'm just but who did that? These people that say she didn't do anything, who did that?

Who did?

Who did?

Making drug prices available, making insulin thirty five dollars cap on insulin? You think Joe Biden alan did? These are things that impact our community. Kama Harris has been a partner with him on all of that. Right now, you go to the hospital, not you because you're rich, but the average person goes to the hospital can't pay their bills. A credit agency now gets that right start blowing your phone up. You can't pay it.

Making drug prices available, making insulin thirty five dollars cap on insulin? You think Joe Biden alan did? These are things that impact our community. Kama Harris has been a partner with him on all of that. Right now, you go to the hospital, not you because you're rich, but the average person goes to the hospital can't pay their bills. A credit agency now gets that right start blowing your phone up. You can't pay it.

They can deem your credit so that means you maybe.

They can deem your credit so that means you maybe.

Can't rent an apartment, you can't get a car loan, you can't get a business loan. So our vice president, working with our president now has made it impossible for your those kind of hospital medical bills to impact your credits.

Can't rent an apartment, you can't get a car loan, you can't get a business loan. So our vice president, working with our president now has made it impossible for your those kind of hospital medical bills to impact your credits.

Were Then if that was the case, what was the hesitancy of her being in this position? Because even when Joe Biden announced that he was endorsing her, what have you, there was still some initial resistance. That's number one. Number two, excuse me, you had other Democrats that then did didn't jump on boy, you had donuts that didn't jump on board.

Were Then if that was the case, what was the hesitancy of her being in this position? Because even when Joe Biden announced that he was endorsing her, what have you, there was still some initial resistance. That's number one. Number two, excuse me, you had other Democrats that then did didn't jump on boy, you had donuts that didn't jump on board.

You made the announcement Sunday.

You made the announcement Sunday.

I'm just saying we were worried about this, and then you had other You had of the folks talking about this should be an open convention, and you still haven't heard for Barack Obama and Michelle Obama about her.

I'm just saying we were worried about this, and then you had other You had of the folks talking about this should be an open convention, and you still haven't heard for Barack Obama and Michelle Obama about her.

All due respect to Barack and Michelle Obama, what I believe is happening, which is rightfully their position to take.

All due respect to Barack and Michelle Obama, what I believe is happening, which is rightfully their position to take.

Barack is a senior statesman.

Barack is a senior statesman.

He doesn't want to put his thumb on the scale and tip the scale.

He doesn't want to put his thumb on the scale and tip the scale.

He wants the people to speak.

He wants the people to speak.

You think Barack Obama and Michelle Obama are not going to come out for Kama Hair.

You think Barack Obama and Michelle Obama are not going to come out for Kama Hair.

I think they will eventually. I don't think they're going to have any choice if everybody in their grandmother.

I think they will eventually. I don't think they're going to have any choice if everybody in their grandmother.

Of the people, That's what I'm talking about.

Of the people, That's what I'm talking about.

But I'm just saying that one could argue, why would it why should it take that she is the Vice President Unitedvant Because I don't know there's a Democrat alive that matters more than Barack Obama. How about that?

But I'm just saying that one could argue, why would it why should it take that she is the Vice President Unitedvant Because I don't know there's a Democrat alive that matters more than Barack Obama. How about that?

I would beg to differ. When you raise two hundred fifty million and thirty six hours, I would say a whole lot of people matter more than Barack Obama. When you got every Democratic governor, every Democratic governor, you got pretty much every Democratic senator, the House of Representatives, you got Chuck Schumer, Hakim Jeffrey's, you got Nancy, which.

I would beg to differ. When you raise two hundred fifty million and thirty six hours, I would say a whole lot of people matter more than Barack Obama. When you got every Democratic governor, every Democratic governor, you got pretty much every Democratic senator, the House of Representatives, you got Chuck Schumer, Hakim Jeffrey's, you got Nancy, which.

Is why it should be easier for him to come out.

Is why it should be easier for him to come out.

But it doesn't matter when you have the kind of grounds.

But it doesn't matter when you have the kind of grounds.

Well, I submit to you that the enthusiasm we saw in two thousand and seven around Barack Obama, that's the kind of enthusiasm we're seeing around Kamala. Harris got a friend tell me they worked the polls for Baraka. People came in an ambulance to vote, got out of the ambulance off of gurney. That's how important it was to be a part of that historic election. That's what we're experiencing now. Forty thousand person I crashed zoom.

Well, I submit to you that the enthusiasm we saw in two thousand and seven around Barack Obama, that's the kind of enthusiasm we're seeing around Kamala. Harris got a friend tell me they worked the polls for Baraka. People came in an ambulance to vote, got out of the ambulance off of gurney. That's how important it was to be a part of that historic election. That's what we're experiencing now. Forty thousand person I crashed zoom.

I personally don't care the reasons why. But when Joe Biden got over eighty one million votes in twenty twenty, people were saying it wasn't really for him, it was against Trump. So you can make a legitimate argument that right now, excuse me, you're gonna be the nominee for the Democratic Party. You certainly don't want Trump in office. That's the motivation behind all of this. And as far as I'm concerned, I don't I to no.

I personally don't care the reasons why. But when Joe Biden got over eighty one million votes in twenty twenty, people were saying it wasn't really for him, it was against Trump. So you can make a legitimate argument that right now, excuse me, you're gonna be the nominee for the Democratic Party. You certainly don't want Trump in office. That's the motivation behind all of this. And as far as I'm concerned, I don't I to no.

No.

No.

If you're Kamala Harris, you listen, I love her chances. I gotta admit to you because let me tell you something right now, Roe v Wade, I mean how that was overturned. You're Kamala Harrison taking the positions like you just articulated. You should have an abundance of women support in Kamala Harris, no question about it. Black folks definitely going to support Kamala Harris. We know this much. So I'm looking at it, and I'm looking at this as a huge fight because to me, she has a legitimate chance if she goes after him and doesn't hesitate in doing something.

If you're Kamala Harris, you listen, I love her chances. I gotta admit to you because let me tell you something right now, Roe v Wade, I mean how that was overturned. You're Kamala Harrison taking the positions like you just articulated. You should have an abundance of women support in Kamala Harris, no question about it. Black folks definitely going to support Kamala Harris. We know this much. So I'm looking at it, and I'm looking at this as a huge fight because to me, she has a legitimate chance if she goes after him and doesn't hesitate in doing something.

But wait a minute, you just said that you don't know if the enthusiasm about her.

But wait a minute, you just said that you don't know if the enthusiasm about her.

Is because of her or because.

Is because of her or because.

I don't care.

I don't care.

But that's the whole point.

But that's the whole point.

A win is a win.

A win is a win.

A win is a win.

A win is a win.

A win is a win, and she is by all indication, she has stolen all of the momentum from the Republican Party. You've got black women crashing Zoom on Sunday, black men crashing stream yard on Monday. I got a message today that Asian American women are about to do the same call that black women did. Okay, that Latina women are organizing to do that same call. Thirty thousand people that have never volunteered for a presidential campaign have volunteered to work on this campaign. That money we talked about, that eighty million, one hundred million keeps growing. Sixty percent of those people had never ever donated to the twenty twenty four presidential election, and about forty percent of those people said, hit my bank account every month.

A win is a win, and she is by all indication, she has stolen all of the momentum from the Republican Party. You've got black women crashing Zoom on Sunday, black men crashing stream yard on Monday. I got a message today that Asian American women are about to do the same call that black women did. Okay, that Latina women are organizing to do that same call. Thirty thousand people that have never volunteered for a presidential campaign have volunteered to work on this campaign. That money we talked about, that eighty million, one hundred million keeps growing. Sixty percent of those people had never ever donated to the twenty twenty four presidential election, and about forty percent of those people said, hit my bank account every month.

So I don't think that is an anti Trump vote.

So I don't think that is an anti Trump vote.

That is clearly a pro Kamala Harris history vote, new era, new generation, new opportunity to move this country toward any way that we haven't seen in a long time.

That is clearly a pro Kamala Harris history vote, new era, new generation, new opportunity to move this country toward any way that we haven't seen in a long time.

So you're not concerned about those white women out there who may be pro life. There's millions of them.

So you're not concerned about those white women out there who may be pro life. There's millions of them.

They're more of us, They're more of us if we do our job. This has always been and continues to be about the numbers. Right, you are numbers man.

They're more of us, They're more of us if we do our job. This has always been and continues to be about the numbers. Right, you are numbers man.

We just had a conversation.

We just had a conversation.

We did.

We did.

The math is mathing in this case. If we turn out enough voters, if we knock on enough doors, which is why again I go back to those petulant donors, if they free up that money, if people keep giving that grassroots money through free we will knock on enough doors and we will turn out voters this enchanted voters. You know who I think we're also gonna win with who've been pretty critical of Kamala Harris. Black men.

The math is mathing in this case. If we turn out enough voters, if we knock on enough doors, which is why again I go back to those petulant donors, if they free up that money, if people keep giving that grassroots money through free we will knock on enough doors and we will turn out voters this enchanted voters. You know who I think we're also gonna win with who've been pretty critical of Kamala Harris. Black men.

I was getting that.

I was getting that.

I was going the next I was gone for them, and I think we're.

I was going the next I was gone for them, and I think we're.

Gonna okay, So remind out what this is. I'm not gonna put the words of Reave. I'm gonna let you put the words, why would black men be reluctant to support Kamala Harris? Go, I'll let you explain uninformed? Don't me that? Fine, fine, but tell me tell me what they were uninformed about.

Gonna okay, So remind out what this is. I'm not gonna put the words of Reave. I'm gonna let you put the words, why would black men be reluctant to support Kamala Harris? Go, I'll let you explain uninformed? Don't me that? Fine, fine, but tell me tell me what they were uninformed about.

First, uninformed about her record as a prosecutor. And this is what they were uninformed about.

First, uninformed about her record as a prosecutor. And this is what they were uninformed about.

Okay.

Okay.

I'm a lawyer, civil rights lawyers, stand on the shoulders of some of the greatest civil rights leaders and based.

I'm a lawyer, civil rights lawyers, stand on the shoulders of some of the greatest civil rights leaders and based.

Out of the state of California, which is where she was a district attorney in San Francisco.

Out of the state of California, which is where she was a district attorney in San Francisco.

On the attorney is people were mad calling her a cop and a prosecutor. Do you know how many people died so that we could integrate the ranks of prosecuting attorneys. Do you know we had to fight so that black people could be elected as prosecuting attorneys. Our criminal justice system is screwed up. This disproportionately disadvantages people of color, no doubt about that handstance.

On the attorney is people were mad calling her a cop and a prosecutor. Do you know how many people died so that we could integrate the ranks of prosecuting attorneys. Do you know we had to fight so that black people could be elected as prosecuting attorneys. Our criminal justice system is screwed up. This disproportionately disadvantages people of color, no doubt about that handstance.

And what does she do to help them?

And what does she do to help them?

But do you think it's gonna be better or worse if you don't have black prosecutors like Kamala Harris. What she did to make it better was representation behind her. Are so many black prosecutors now who said I wanted to be a prosecutor because I watched her, and I want to reform our criminal justice system. So she single handily has gone around the country helping other black women and black men and people of color become prosecuted.

But do you think it's gonna be better or worse if you don't have black prosecutors like Kamala Harris. What she did to make it better was representation behind her. Are so many black prosecutors now who said I wanted to be a prosecutor because I watched her, and I want to reform our criminal justice system. So she single handily has gone around the country helping other black women and black men and people of color become prosecuted.

But hold on, hold, daughter, I'm not minimizing it, nor am I disputing it. I'm simply pointing to the perspective, albeit might be might be an oblivious perspective on the of those who are critical of her about this. But nevertheless, there are voters out there who may not be as knowledgeable, who definitely are not as knowledgeable as you, who believes that she assisted in incarcerating a disproportionate amount of black men for a non violent offenses. And now that might not be accurate. And Roland mart came on here and said that that's not true.

But hold on, hold, daughter, I'm not minimizing it, nor am I disputing it. I'm simply pointing to the perspective, albeit might be might be an oblivious perspective on the of those who are critical of her about this. But nevertheless, there are voters out there who may not be as knowledgeable, who definitely are not as knowledgeable as you, who believes that she assisted in incarcerating a disproportionate amount of black men for a non violent offenses. And now that might not be accurate. And Roland mart came on here and said that that's not true.

That's what I'm saying, that's the distortion of her record. That is the reading of a Republican talking point and a repetition of that talking point.

That's what I'm saying, that's the distortion of her record. That is the reading of a Republican talking point and a repetition of that talking point.

These were democratic, but these are democratic opponents that were saying this about her too during the primaries, you know, four years ago. Come on, they were they were saying.

These were democratic, but these are democratic opponents that were saying this about her too during the primaries, you know, four years ago. Come on, they were they were saying.

That when you went primary, what do you do understand research and you try to take your opponent down.

That when you went primary, what do you do understand research and you try to take your opponent down.

Kyble Harris took a swipe at your Biden on the.

Kyble Harris took a swipe at your Biden on the.

Ended up his vice president. So you can't point to that as evidence of anything that's facial tocy. She's the last person you want to but anyhow you.

Ended up his vice president. So you can't point to that as evidence of anything that's facial tocy. She's the last person you want to but anyhow you.

Say she was running, she was a presidential candidate.

Say she was running, she was a presidential candidate.

I tried not to make disparsity remarks about women. So I'm just gonna say that's the last person you want to quote. Kama Harris wrote a book called Being Smart about being Smarter on crime. Okay, they never talk about all of the diversion programs. Diversion meanie, you got a low level offense, rather than go to jail, you go do some community service, you get into rehab, you do some things other than jail. She was the champion of diversion programs when she was working as a prosecuting attorney.

I tried not to make disparsity remarks about women. So I'm just gonna say that's the last person you want to quote. Kama Harris wrote a book called Being Smart about being Smarter on crime. Okay, they never talk about all of the diversion programs. Diversion meanie, you got a low level offense, rather than go to jail, you go do some community service, you get into rehab, you do some things other than jail. She was the champion of diversion programs when she was working as a prosecuting attorney.

You know what they don't talk about either.

You know what they don't talk about either.

This woman became the first black woman ever to win the seat of Attorney General in the state of California.

This woman became the first black woman ever to win the seat of Attorney General in the state of California.

Do you know how.

Do you know how.

Hard it is to win an election statewide in a state as huge as California?

Hard it is to win an election statewide in a state as huge as California?

Almost impossible, and nobody's questioned her intellect. Nobody's question her accomplishments, nobody questioned her we know.

Almost impossible, and nobody's questioned her intellect. Nobody's question her accomplishments, nobody questioned her we know.

That she's geral.

That she's geral.

Nobody's question.

Nobody's question.

Let me tell you what she did, Attorney General. All those people that say she put black people in jail and some black people went to jail who committed crime, prosecutors John That's why it's gonna be so beautiful watching her prosecute the criminal, the convict that Donald Trump is. But as Attorney general, don't talk nearly enough about this. She went after those big banks that did those prime loans, those those horrible subprime loans that resulted in those big balloon payments that cost so many black and brown families to lose their homes. She went after those banks, held them accountable, got huge settlements for the state of California to make those families, to make sure those families got some restitution for what they lost in that whole prime subprime market.

Let me tell you what she did, Attorney General. All those people that say she put black people in jail and some black people went to jail who committed crime, prosecutors John That's why it's gonna be so beautiful watching her prosecute the criminal, the convict that Donald Trump is. But as Attorney general, don't talk nearly enough about this. She went after those big banks that did those prime loans, those those horrible subprime loans that resulted in those big balloon payments that cost so many black and brown families to lose their homes. She went after those banks, held them accountable, got huge settlements for the state of California to make those families, to make sure those families got some restitution for what they lost in that whole prime subprime market.

Fiasco that we had.

Fiasco that we had.

So there is so much positive in her record as a prosecuting attorney and as Attorney general that doesn't get highlighted because you know what, Stephen, you know this, if it bleeds, it leads what we have watched over the last four years is the media giving Trump billions and billions of dollars of unearned media times.

So there is so much positive in her record as a prosecuting attorney and as Attorney general that doesn't get highlighted because you know what, Stephen, you know this, if it bleeds, it leads what we have watched over the last four years is the media giving Trump billions and billions of dollars of unearned media times.

I don't blame the media for that. I'm gonna let y'all do that. You know what I'm gonna tell you. Let me tell you why I'm not. I'm not gonna let you do that, because even though that's true, he's compelling in a lot of people's eyes, why the hell ain't you compelling I'm talking about as a candidate.

I don't blame the media for that. I'm gonna let y'all do that. You know what I'm gonna tell you. Let me tell you why I'm not. I'm not gonna let you do that, because even though that's true, he's compelling in a lot of people's eyes, why the hell ain't you compelling I'm talking about as a candidate.

Because the job president.

Because the job president.

The job of a candidate, is the job of a.

The job of a candidate, is the job of a.

Candidate, is the job of the president and vice president not to be compelling reality TV excuse.

Candidate, is the job of the president and vice president not to be compelling reality TV excuse.

We want you to govern the country with start, you gotta crawl before you walking, before you get into that office. You got to be somebody that's compelling enough to resonate with the constituency out there. And we got too many Democrats that aren't able to pull that off. And that's the reality. If you know you're going up against somebody that's got that kind of cachet, that got that kind of pull that magnetizes an audience for some reason, the way that trumps on the right, you got to have somebody on the left capable of pulling.

We want you to govern the country with start, you gotta crawl before you walking, before you get into that office. You got to be somebody that's compelling enough to resonate with the constituency out there. And we got too many Democrats that aren't able to pull that off. And that's the reality. If you know you're going up against somebody that's got that kind of cachet, that got that kind of pull that magnetizes an audience for some reason, the way that trumps on the right, you got to have somebody on the left capable of pulling.

That off to you are categorically wrong about that when you say, first of all, we do have Democrats that have enough cash, have enough millions of voters to vote for them. So let's be clear about that.

That off to you are categorically wrong about that when you say, first of all, we do have Democrats that have enough cash, have enough millions of voters to vote for them. So let's be clear about that.

I'm just saying it's all right to have that.

I'm just saying it's all right to have that.

You're saying about the media again, categorically wrong, the media driven by prophets business I'm having a problem with.

You're saying about the media again, categorically wrong, the media driven by prophets business I'm having a problem with.

I'm an entrepreneur.

I'm an entrepreneur.

I'm driven by profits I work.

I'm driven by profits I work.

Are you a captain?

Are you a captain?

I demand to get paid for what I think about that that makes you work to ensure that I make the lives of people better.

I demand to get paid for what I think about that that makes you work to ensure that I make the lives of people better.

Okay, what's when I say you're a capitalist?

Okay, what's when I say you're a capitalist?

Though?

Though?

What's wrong with that?

What's wrong with that?

I'm not defining myself the way you wanted to find me. You want to put me in a box.

I'm not defining myself the way you wanted to find me. You want to put me in a box.

I'm a riava.

I'm a riava.

That's it.

That's it.

That's all I am, right, Okay.

That's all I am, right, Okay.

My point is Donald Trump was given billions of dollars of unearned media because he is a as you just called me, your reality start.

My point is Donald Trump was given billions of dollars of unearned media because he is a as you just called me, your reality start.

I don't know what he is.

I don't know what he is.

He's definitely that our government is a reality TV.

He's definitely that our government is a reality TV.

These are these are real issues that impact real people, and I do hold our media to account, and I do expect better than them allowing someone to come on television until someone said he told six hundred lies. I'm not saying he should be allowed to get away minutes during that debate. So the unknowing person, the person got two jobs. The person's gotta work all day. They don't have time to go and fact check that. So don't you think it's journalists? If I'm watching the news, the news should be without question, but based on reality.

These are these are real issues that impact real people, and I do hold our media to account, and I do expect better than them allowing someone to come on television until someone said he told six hundred lies. I'm not saying he should be allowed to get away minutes during that debate. So the unknowing person, the person got two jobs. The person's gotta work all day. They don't have time to go and fact check that. So don't you think it's journalists? If I'm watching the news, the news should be without question, but based on reality.

Based on what you just said, he's told so many lives. You ain't got enough real estate television, real estate go through all lives.

Based on what you just said, he's told so many lives. You ain't got enough real estate television, real estate go through all lives.

But we take him off, maybe we don't have them one television.

But we take him off, maybe we don't have them one television.

Fine, let me ask you this question. What about Kamala Harris as No, she wasn't the borders are as they tried to call her, But they still point the figure at her because she's the person that Joe Biden the sign overlook that they and ten and a half million I legal immigrants across our borders. What the what level of culpability do you attach to her for that? These are things that critics might have.

Fine, let me ask you this question. What about Kamala Harris as No, she wasn't the borders are as they tried to call her, But they still point the figure at her because she's the person that Joe Biden the sign overlook that they and ten and a half million I legal immigrants across our borders. What the what level of culpability do you attach to her for that? These are things that critics might have.

Well, first of all, I take care she was you calling people illegal again? That's a Republican talking point. It is where people coming are people seeking asylum.

Well, first of all, I take care she was you calling people illegal again? That's a Republican talking point. It is where people coming are people seeking asylum.

I don't have a problem. Tell me what you want. I didn't mean that. I apologize. So I'm asking you what would you like me to call them? That suffices? Just tell me and I'll start doing all them. Immigrants, immigrants, no problem, immigrants crossing the immigrants crossing the borders.

I don't have a problem. Tell me what you want. I didn't mean that. I apologize. So I'm asking you what would you like me to call them? That suffices? Just tell me and I'll start doing all them. Immigrants, immigrants, no problem, immigrants crossing the immigrants crossing the borders.

Is that fine?

Is that fine?

Because I don't want to be offensive to anybody. I don't I certainly don't have a problem. What's the deal with that?

Because I don't want to be offensive to anybody. I don't I certainly don't have a problem. What's the deal with that?

The deal with that is again that the information is being distorted.

The deal with that is again that the information is being distorted.

The fact is, Joe.

The fact is, Joe.

Biden, the number of people crossing the border is lower, is lower under the Biden Harris administration that it was under the Donald Trump a minister, and we're doing it in a much more humane fashion. Do you remember those cages? Remember those kids who were in cages? Is that what we want to go back to? Remember Donald Trump first thing he did when he got into offices to say, deport all Muslims.

Biden, the number of people crossing the border is lower, is lower under the Biden Harris administration that it was under the Donald Trump a minister, and we're doing it in a much more humane fashion. Do you remember those cages? Remember those kids who were in cages? Is that what we want to go back to? Remember Donald Trump first thing he did when he got into offices to say, deport all Muslims.

People are at airports.

People are at airports.

Lawyers were having to run to airports to help the deportation of people. So Donald Trump has shown what he will do in office. The difference in this election than twenty fifteen when he was running.

Lawyers were having to run to airports to help the deportation of people. So Donald Trump has shown what he will do in office. The difference in this election than twenty fifteen when he was running.

He has a record.

He has a record.

Now we don't have to guess about We have to buy into the narrative that this billionaire businessman is going to do for the country what he did allegedly for those businesses.

Now we don't have to guess about We have to buy into the narrative that this billionaire businessman is going to do for the country what he did allegedly for those businesses.

Now we know what he did for those businesses was.

Now we know what he did for those businesses was.

To run them in the ground.

To run them in the ground.

First of all, bankruptcy at least four times. I think that name might have been.

First of all, bankruptcy at least four times. I think that name might have been.

That was a narrative, that was a reality.

That was a narrative, that was a reality.

Secondly, ain't get nobody's vote this way, But I would ask you this question, why the hell is he has even leading in the polls if that's the case. All the things you just highlighted, and you didn't even bring up the thirty four fella in the ga acounts against them, they was found gifty of You didn't bring up the four unto the fifty four million dollars civil suit. You had to bring up the ordinate amount of cases legal cases against them just going on as records. You brought that up. And yet the record plus this stuff, the man is still the GOP nominee.

Secondly, ain't get nobody's vote this way, But I would ask you this question, why the hell is he has even leading in the polls if that's the case. All the things you just highlighted, and you didn't even bring up the thirty four fella in the ga acounts against them, they was found gifty of You didn't bring up the four unto the fifty four million dollars civil suit. You had to bring up the ordinate amount of cases legal cases against them just going on as records. You brought that up. And yet the record plus this stuff, the man is still the GOP nominee.

I hate to break it to this one word. It's called racism.

I hate to break it to this one word. It's called racism.

What Donald Trump unleashed when he became president. He emboldened white supremacists, white nationalists not to say that they weren't always there, but he gave them a platform. He gave the insurrectionists the platform and said, Brad vote.

What Donald Trump unleashed when he became president. He emboldened white supremacists, white nationalists not to say that they weren't always there, but he gave them a platform. He gave the insurrectionists the platform and said, Brad vote.

White supremacist insurrectionists don't equate to seventy four plus millions vote. Can't I can't call everybody that votes for him that.

White supremacist insurrectionists don't equate to seventy four plus millions vote. Can't I can't call everybody that votes for him that.

No, you can respect that there is a large number of people, millions of people that want to maintain the status quote, maintain white hierarchy.

No, you can respect that there is a large number of people, millions of people that want to maintain the status quote, maintain white hierarchy.

In this country.

In this country.

And we can look at what the evidence all the attacks on Dei sharn you know who they are. The Society for Human Resources Johnny Taylor black Man, actually a lawyer, president of organization three hundred and forty thousand member human resources organizations. He said, for our diversity, equity inclusion strategy, we are now going to remove the word equity because equity is too difficult for people to understand and it's too divisive. So we can go back to the attacks on Clarting Gay, the first black female president of Harvard University. We can go back to statements made by Bill Wackerman and others that they're coming for Dei. We can look at the dismantling of affirmative action and college admissions, and know that there is a concerted effort Project twenty twenty five. Need we say that on the show, nine hundred page manifesto that basically undermines the rights of just about everybody.

And we can look at what the evidence all the attacks on Dei sharn you know who they are. The Society for Human Resources Johnny Taylor black Man, actually a lawyer, president of organization three hundred and forty thousand member human resources organizations. He said, for our diversity, equity inclusion strategy, we are now going to remove the word equity because equity is too difficult for people to understand and it's too divisive. So we can go back to the attacks on Clarting Gay, the first black female president of Harvard University. We can go back to statements made by Bill Wackerman and others that they're coming for Dei. We can look at the dismantling of affirmative action and college admissions, and know that there is a concerted effort Project twenty twenty five. Need we say that on the show, nine hundred page manifesto that basically undermines the rights of just about everybody.

Minorities, people of the LGBTQ women.

Minorities, people of the LGBTQ women.

So don't tell me that we are not seeing people voting for Dollard Trump, not necessarily because I'm saying they're a racist. I don't know if your racist or not, but we do know by the actions of people that there is an effort to support white hierarchy in discussion.

So don't tell me that we are not seeing people voting for Dollard Trump, not necessarily because I'm saying they're a racist. I don't know if your racist or not, but we do know by the actions of people that there is an effort to support white hierarchy in discussion.

I'm gonna come back with a big time question based off of what you just said. This is Stephen Nate Smithshow, right here over the digital airways and YouTube and iHeartRadio, the one and only Ariva Martin is in the house and my studio. Cause it all types of trouble.

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We'll be right back in a minute.

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Welcome back to Steven Asmithscheid right here over the digital airways of YouTube and of course iHeartRadio. I want to know when you think about the tens of millions of people who support the Republican candidate to the United States of America. I've run across many of them who don't like him a little bit. They actually think he will be bad for the country, but they don't think he'll be worse than what we see on the left because of the kind of things one could argue, you just articulated this belief that, Okay, if you can't see where we're coming from, you must not get it, you must be a bad person. That's how people interpret that.

Welcome back to Steven Asmithscheid right here over the digital airways of YouTube and of course iHeartRadio. I want to know when you think about the tens of millions of people who support the Republican candidate to the United States of America. I've run across many of them who don't like him a little bit. They actually think he will be bad for the country, but they don't think he'll be worse than what we see on the left because of the kind of things one could argue, you just articulated this belief that, Okay, if you can't see where we're coming from, you must not get it, you must be a bad person. That's how people interpret that.

Arefa That is not what I said, and that is what people say to avoid dealing with the bigger issue. Okay, this isn't what I say.

Arefa That is not what I said, and that is what people say to avoid dealing with the bigger issue. Okay, this isn't what I say.

This is well documented history.

This is well documented history.

Stephend A. Smith. I'm not making this up. Read a history book.

Stephend A. Smith. I'm not making this up. Read a history book.

Have some of these people you run into Read a history book.

Have some of these people you run into Read a history book.

Look at the history of African Americans in this country, from Reconstruction to Jim Crow, to the segregated South to the Civil Rights era. There are laws and policies that have been enacted in this country since we were brought here on slave ships to separate, to undermine, to marginalized, and to create benefits for non black.

Look at the history of African Americans in this country, from Reconstruction to Jim Crow, to the segregated South to the Civil Rights era. There are laws and policies that have been enacted in this country since we were brought here on slave ships to separate, to undermine, to marginalized, and to create benefits for non black.

People and disadvantages for black people.

People and disadvantages for black people.

That's not an arreva statement, that is a historical fact. Is a lot of people who say they don't want the left quote unquote to be in power because we are attacking them. That is them again showing what we just have to call it white fragility.

That's not an arreva statement, that is a historical fact. Is a lot of people who say they don't want the left quote unquote to be in power because we are attacking them. That is them again showing what we just have to call it white fragility.

A who lot of books about that.

A who lot of books about that.

I didn't create that either, doubt. The reality is there are systemic racism and systemic barriers in this country, in the institutions of this country, and we get real close to dealing with them, and then people retreat because they personalize it. Systemic racism isn't you or me. It's a system. It's a policy in red lining, that's a policy that made it difficult for people who were black to get bank loans and to buy homes.

I didn't create that either, doubt. The reality is there are systemic racism and systemic barriers in this country, in the institutions of this country, and we get real close to dealing with them, and then people retreat because they personalize it. Systemic racism isn't you or me. It's a system. It's a policy in red lining, that's a policy that made it difficult for people who were black to get bank loans and to buy homes.

In certain neighborhoods.

In certain neighborhoods.

So when we talk about red lining, I'm not talking about your great grandfather, I'm sorry, but red lining exists, and it deprived millions of black people from home ownership. And as a result, you were able to buy a house, you were able to pass that house down to your descendants.

So when we talk about red lining, I'm not talking about your great grandfather, I'm sorry, but red lining exists, and it deprived millions of black people from home ownership. And as a result, you were able to buy a house, you were able to pass that house down to your descendants.

They now have generational wealth.

They now have generational wealth.

My family couldn't buy a house, so now the wealth gap is ten to one. I'm not personalizing this, I'm just pointing to the facts, and you.

My family couldn't buy a house, so now the wealth gap is ten to one. I'm not personalizing this, I'm just pointing to the facts, and you.

Know, it's interesting because one of the things that one of the biggest things I think the Democrats need to be given credit for, and I've often said this, they were the ones the Democratic Party, were the ones who gave black folks access to capital in this country. That's not something that the Republican Party can brag about. That is something the Democratic Party can brag about, based especially or for what you just articulated. As you sit here right now, are you more confident now about the possibility of Kamala Harris winning this election than you were about Biden's chances of winning the election.

Know, it's interesting because one of the things that one of the biggest things I think the Democrats need to be given credit for, and I've often said this, they were the ones the Democratic Party, were the ones who gave black folks access to capital in this country. That's not something that the Republican Party can brag about. That is something the Democratic Party can brag about, based especially or for what you just articulated. As you sit here right now, are you more confident now about the possibility of Kamala Harris winning this election than you were about Biden's chances of winning the election.

I always believed and I continue to believe, that the Democrats were going to win this election. I believe that Joe Biden could have won this election.

I always believed and I continue to believe, that the Democrats were going to win this election. I believe that Joe Biden could have won this election.

I believe Kama Harris.

I believe Kama Harris.

Even after the debate on June twenty seven.

Even after the debate on June twenty seven.

Even after the debate, because I believe sensible people were going to look at the record that I talked about and you just talked about.

Even after the debate, because I believe sensible people were going to look at the record that I talked about and you just talked about.

I believe that when people.

I believe that when people.

Got into that ballot box, they were going to have a binary choice. They were gonna have to choose between a party that wanted to continue and move this country forward or a party whose only platform is retribution and revenge. That's what Donald Trump says. I am going after my political enemies. I am running for office some people. You know, the belief is there, and I think there's evidence to support it to stay out of jail. If I'm president, I can make those criminal cases that you've talked about go away. I can make them disappear. I can appoint more people to the federal bench. I may get another Supreme Court I can get maybe you know, some of those Supreme Court justices, the majority of them are over seventy years old.