What's up, everybody. Welcome to the special edition of The Stephen A. Smith Show, coming at you as I love to do at the very least three days a week over the digital airways of YouTube and of course iHeartRadio. Thank you, as always for helping my subscriber base, my followers to continue to build and build and build. I've now eclipsed over eight hundred and sixty seven thousand subscribers, and I'm gonna keep on climbing. I'm gonna keep on climbing on this particular day. I'm calling this a special episode because this ain't the typical Steven A. Smith's show right now. You see, there's a big time show coming on Friday Night. It's the series finale, not the season finale, the series finale. Okay, you made Power No Power with Stars on the Stars Network. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember the days of a Marii hardware, all right, I remember that. You understand that Ghost and Tommy Egan with Joseph Scorn all of these other cats get all that. As great as that was, and I appreciate it. Let me tell you something right now, I'm loving this right here. Friday nights, Friday Nights, This is where I've been watching this series, watching TIF Saint Patrick, watching Braden, watching Diana, watching Effie, watching Monet, watching Kaine, watching my next guest. You're saying some people might call him crooked and as in a crooked lawyer. Other people will say he's shrewd and adroit and all of these other things they call him. You understand him saying that's McLean. That's what they call them. But we know him as math as a method man. He's also known as Clifford Smith beautiful last day, by the way, very very beautiful last name. But I digress. I've been waiting for this series finally for weeks and it's coming Friday night. Who better to talk to than the one and Only method Man himself? Your Oh, I need to get by and this, y'all don't know nothing about that. I got some producers on here, a couple of them older than me, so they don't know what I'm talking about. They don't know what I'm talking about, but I know I know mething the house. You are to stand what I'm saying. Nothing the House, the One and Only method Man with your boy Stephen. Ay, that's coming up next. Don't go away because you ain't gonna want to miss what this brother got to say. Trust me on that. Trust me. My guest is a rapper, a songwriter, a producer, an actor, and a Grammy and NAACP Image Award winning founding member of the legendary rap collective Wu Tang Clan. He currently stars as criminal defense attorney Davis Clean on the hit Stars drama Power Book two Ghost, which is it's series finale this Friday, October fourth. Please welcome my brother, my boy, uh, the fabulous Clifford Smith, better known to the world as the One and only method Man. What's up, big time? It's a little stay in the house. What's what's up? Baby? How you? How you? How you been? Man? What's going on with your bad self?

What's up, everybody. Welcome to the special edition of The Stephen A. Smith Show, coming at you as I love to do at the very least three days a week over the digital airways of YouTube and of course iHeartRadio. Thank you, as always for helping my subscriber base, my followers to continue to build and build and build. I've now eclipsed over eight hundred and sixty seven thousand subscribers, and I'm gonna keep on climbing. I'm gonna keep on climbing on this particular day. I'm calling this a special episode because this ain't the typical Steven A. Smith's show right now. You see, there's a big time show coming on Friday Night. It's the series finale, not the season finale, the series finale. Okay, you made Power No Power with Stars on the Stars Network. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember the days of a Marii hardware, all right, I remember that. You understand that Ghost and Tommy Egan with Joseph Scorn all of these other cats get all that. As great as that was, and I appreciate it. Let me tell you something right now, I'm loving this right here. Friday nights, Friday Nights, This is where I've been watching this series, watching TIF Saint Patrick, watching Braden, watching Diana, watching Effie, watching Monet, watching Kaine, watching my next guest. You're saying some people might call him crooked and as in a crooked lawyer. Other people will say he's shrewd and adroit and all of these other things they call him. You understand him saying that's McLean. That's what they call them. But we know him as math as a method man. He's also known as Clifford Smith beautiful last day, by the way, very very beautiful last name. But I digress. I've been waiting for this series finally for weeks and it's coming Friday night. Who better to talk to than the one and Only method Man himself? Your Oh, I need to get by and this, y'all don't know nothing about that. I got some producers on here, a couple of them older than me, so they don't know what I'm talking about. They don't know what I'm talking about, but I know I know mething the house. You are to stand what I'm saying. Nothing the House, the One and Only method Man with your boy Stephen. Ay, that's coming up next. Don't go away because you ain't gonna want to miss what this brother got to say. Trust me on that. Trust me. My guest is a rapper, a songwriter, a producer, an actor, and a Grammy and NAACP Image Award winning founding member of the legendary rap collective Wu Tang Clan. He currently stars as criminal defense attorney Davis Clean on the hit Stars drama Power Book two Ghost, which is it's series finale this Friday, October fourth. Please welcome my brother, my boy, uh, the fabulous Clifford Smith, better known to the world as the One and only method Man. What's up, big time? It's a little stay in the house. What's what's up? Baby? How you? How you? How you been? Man? What's going on with your bad self?

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Blessed, blessed, blessed very much. So man, love your come up, Steven, I mean well deserved. You work your ass off to get where you're at. Anybody that disagrees with that got to answer to me.

Blessed, blessed, blessed very much. So man, love your come up, Steven, I mean well deserved. You work your ass off to get where you're at. Anybody that disagrees with that got to answer to me.

Listen, man, I appreciate you, man, nothing but love for you. Man. But this this, I gotta talk about you because I'm so proud of what I'm seeing you do as a defense attorney. I mean, I've never missed an episode. Uh, you're doing your thing, bro. Your acting is beautiful. You don't it's just special to watch. How much which fun has it been to play the role of Davis McLean? A power book?

Listen, man, I appreciate you, man, nothing but love for you. Man. But this this, I gotta talk about you because I'm so proud of what I'm seeing you do as a defense attorney. I mean, I've never missed an episode. Uh, you're doing your thing, bro. Your acting is beautiful. You don't it's just special to watch. How much which fun has it been to play the role of Davis McLean? A power book?

All loads of fun? Man?

All loads of fun? Man?

And not only that, you know, I work on one of the best casts on the planet, you know, Mary J.

And not only that, you know, I work on one of the best casts on the planet, you know, Mary J.

Blige, Woody McLean.

Blige, Woody McLean.

I don't want to start getting in the names, but Shane Johnson is my personal favorite. He played Sacks on the show. Loved that guy right there. But yeah, it's been a blast, man.

I don't want to start getting in the names, but Shane Johnson is my personal favorite. He played Sacks on the show. Loved that guy right there. But yeah, it's been a blast, man.

You know. Did you ever think, man, that you'd be playing a defense attorney? A lawyer? Mean, I mean when I think about you, I'm thinking of, hey, at least a prosecutor. I never thought that you'd be you'd be a defense attorney. But I'm loving it. Have you ever thought about that at all? No?

You know. Did you ever think, man, that you'd be playing a defense attorney? A lawyer? Mean, I mean when I think about you, I'm thinking of, hey, at least a prosecutor. I never thought that you'd be you'd be a defense attorney. But I'm loving it. Have you ever thought about that at all? No?

I hell know, that wasn't in the cards for me at all. Man.

I hell know, that wasn't in the cards for me at all. Man.

I wanted to play sports, honestly. I thought that was my real call, man, lacrosse of football.

I wanted to play sports, honestly. I thought that was my real call, man, lacrosse of football.

You know.

You know.

But this is a nice Uh, it's a nice little thing right here. If I could have been a lawyer in real life, I would have jumped at the chance to do that. But during career day, when they asked what did you want? What are you want to be when you grow up? My answer was always rich, So I think I accomplished that.

But this is a nice Uh, it's a nice little thing right here. If I could have been a lawyer in real life, I would have jumped at the chance to do that. But during career day, when they asked what did you want? What are you want to be when you grow up? My answer was always rich, So I think I accomplished that.

I feel you no doubt about that. But what I'm asking specifically is that when you think about your acting career and what roles you aspire to play, how does this factor in in terms of your level of enjoyment? What's so fun about playing a lawyer as opposed to a different kind of character for you?

I feel you no doubt about that. But what I'm asking specifically is that when you think about your acting career and what roles you aspire to play, how does this factor in in terms of your level of enjoyment? What's so fun about playing a lawyer as opposed to a different kind of character for you?

I like a challenge the same way any good actor does, and I've never been in that world.

I like a challenge the same way any good actor does, and I've never been in that world.

I don't even like lawyer shows.

I don't even like lawyer shows.

But when it was presented to me, it's funny because I had just did my whole acting class, my whole acting course, and myself and my senior partner had to redo a scene from Philadelphia. My part was the Denzel part, the lawyer. He played the Tom Hanks part. So I'm not saying it prepared me for this, but it kind of gave me an insight onto what lawyers do on a daily basis, Whether they're ambulance chasers or they're the top prosecutor in the eight you know they are basically bend people's wills to what they what their perception is, and what reality is. And that's what I did every day on set. Then what perception is and what reality is.

But when it was presented to me, it's funny because I had just did my whole acting class, my whole acting course, and myself and my senior partner had to redo a scene from Philadelphia. My part was the Denzel part, the lawyer. He played the Tom Hanks part. So I'm not saying it prepared me for this, but it kind of gave me an insight onto what lawyers do on a daily basis, Whether they're ambulance chasers or they're the top prosecutor in the eight you know they are basically bend people's wills to what they what their perception is, and what reality is. And that's what I did every day on set. Then what perception is and what reality is.

I gotta tell you, man, Listen, I ain't no damn actor. I try to do a little actor on a soap opera general Hospital, but I ain't no damn actor. I can't take no act of lessons or anything like that like you have. But I will tell you what has come to fascinate me about the profession. So many times, we go through so many things in life, trials and tribulations. You know, by the way you want for the purposes of this interview, and you want me to call your cliff Clifford, Meth what I mean, You've earned it. What you want me to call you? Brother?

I gotta tell you, man, Listen, I ain't no damn actor. I try to do a little actor on a soap opera general Hospital, but I ain't no damn actor. I can't take no act of lessons or anything like that like you have. But I will tell you what has come to fascinate me about the profession. So many times, we go through so many things in life, trials and tribulations. You know, by the way you want for the purposes of this interview, and you want me to call your cliff Clifford, Meth what I mean, You've earned it. What you want me to call you? Brother?

The block? Bro, We're from the block. You can on me math no matter.

The block? Bro, We're from the block. You can on me math no matter.

You know it. But Meth, let me tell you that the thing that I love, that I've come to love about acting, that's making me think about it more and more. I love and I am fascinated by the reality that you can be whatever the role allows you to be. You could get away with anything that the role as long as it defines the role. You good. That's what fascinates me about acting. What about you?

You know it. But Meth, let me tell you that the thing that I love, that I've come to love about acting, that's making me think about it more and more. I love and I am fascinated by the reality that you can be whatever the role allows you to be. You could get away with anything that the role as long as it defines the role. You good. That's what fascinates me about acting. What about you?

Well, I like you know, I like the fantasy world.

Well, I like you know, I like the fantasy world.

And you know, when we're young, as young boys, we use to play cops and robbers and the commitment alone just to you know, being shot and dying and coming back to life.

And you know, when we're young, as young boys, we use to play cops and robbers and the commitment alone just to you know, being shot and dying and coming back to life.

That alone was acting when we were younger. So you know, I think I.

That alone was acting when we were younger. So you know, I think I.

Prepare for this my whole life, man, And it's just when you can take control of an audience and make them believe that you are that person or whatever that role is, You've done the work, man, and it's going to resonate on that screen and people are gonna pat you.

Prepare for this my whole life, man, And it's just when you can take control of an audience and make them believe that you are that person or whatever that role is, You've done the work, man, and it's going to resonate on that screen and people are gonna pat you.

On the back, give you all the accolades and all that.

On the back, give you all the accolades and all that.

At the end of the day, man, is what you feel and how you feel, because when they call action, ain't none of them people there.

At the end of the day, man, is what you feel and how you feel, because when they call action, ain't none of them people there.

It's just you, like a camera and your imagination.

It's just you, like a camera and your imagination.

Is it true that you know you're a stickler, you know your lines, you get your lines right, you don't make those kind of mistakes. You ain't having that because you're a stickler for everybody making sure they know their stuff as well. Like if you're gonna do an actor scene with meth you're gonna have a problem if you don't remember your lines because he's remembering his. That you're a stickler for it on that level. Is that true?

Is it true that you know you're a stickler, you know your lines, you get your lines right, you don't make those kind of mistakes. You ain't having that because you're a stickler for everybody making sure they know their stuff as well. Like if you're gonna do an actor scene with meth you're gonna have a problem if you don't remember your lines because he's remembering his. That you're a stickler for it on that level. Is that true?

I think a lot of actors are because time is money and you don't want to be the weakest link in a scene.

I think a lot of actors are because time is money and you don't want to be the weakest link in a scene.

Let's say, if there's a scene of three people and.

Let's say, if there's a scene of three people and.

Other two actors are just killing it and you come with the wrong energy, you could ruin that scene to a point where they can completely cut you out of it in editing. That's how this thing works. But when everyone's clicking and all stealinders is clicking, you want to be a part of that action right there.

Other two actors are just killing it and you come with the wrong energy, you could ruin that scene to a point where they can completely cut you out of it in editing. That's how this thing works. But when everyone's clicking and all stealinders is clicking, you want to be a part of that action right there.

You want to jump in and be like, Okay, this is my contribution.

You want to jump in and be like, Okay, this is my contribution.

We're about to make magic here, and then when the magic actually happens. Yeah, it's no feeling like that in the world, Steven Mets.

We're about to make magic here, and then when the magic actually happens. Yeah, it's no feeling like that in the world, Steven Mets.

Let's get into the Power a little bit more because the series finale's coming up. This problem. I ain't gonna miss it. I can't wait. I'm mad. I gotta wait two days for it. But it's all right. I gotta ask you this. You know your favorite scene doing Power since you've been doing it is what because I remember when Sacks got himself getted when your brother on the show killed them, and that was some tremendous acting on your part right there. But I'm wondering what was your favorite scene?

Let's get into the Power a little bit more because the series finale's coming up. This problem. I ain't gonna miss it. I can't wait. I'm mad. I gotta wait two days for it. But it's all right. I gotta ask you this. You know your favorite scene doing Power since you've been doing it is what because I remember when Sacks got himself getted when your brother on the show killed them, and that was some tremendous acting on your part right there. But I'm wondering what was your favorite scene?

My favorite scene had to be the courtroom scenes because I worked so hard on those things, man, and they.

My favorite scene had to be the courtroom scenes because I worked so hard on those things, man, and they.

Came out pretty good.

Came out pretty good.

You know. That's the blessing of having a writer like a Courtney Camp who's written courtroom drama before.

You know. That's the blessing of having a writer like a Courtney Camp who's written courtroom drama before.

First of all, major major props. I'm just gonna call them out by characters. Money's Mary J. Blige, kine Is Woody McClain. I love, That's one of my favorite Tyreek. I mean, come on now, he's the start to show. We know what he brings, you know with his boy Braiden Gianni. I love the cast and Diana I love. I met her for the first time at the HBCUs during NBA All Star Week and she was fabulous to meet. And the whole bit. When you think about what the what the culture, what power has meant to our society, our culture, and how you've helped extend that. What do you think ultimately this is going this show is going to do for the industry moving forward, because I just like what I'm seeing and I like the residual impact that's gonna have. We talked about why we've talked about power, We've talked about all of those things in the past, but PowerBook Ghost I think is special as well. What do you think is gonna do moving forward? But just all of youall careers.

First of all, major major props. I'm just gonna call them out by characters. Money's Mary J. Blige, kine Is Woody McClain. I love, That's one of my favorite Tyreek. I mean, come on now, he's the start to show. We know what he brings, you know with his boy Braiden Gianni. I love the cast and Diana I love. I met her for the first time at the HBCUs during NBA All Star Week and she was fabulous to meet. And the whole bit. When you think about what the what the culture, what power has meant to our society, our culture, and how you've helped extend that. What do you think ultimately this is going this show is going to do for the industry moving forward, because I just like what I'm seeing and I like the residual impact that's gonna have. We talked about why we've talked about power, We've talked about all of those things in the past, but PowerBook Ghost I think is special as well. What do you think is gonna do moving forward? But just all of youall careers.

I think it's gonna I hate to use the word diverse because it's been ran into the ground, but it's definitely going to show that there are platforms for people of color and we are very can talent it, and we can bring a lot to a set. It doesn't matter what color it is. For us to be labeled a black show and for it to do so well that that says a lot in itself, you know. But moving forward, I would love for these parts to be written without any color whatsoever, Like any actor can come in there and basically get the part, you know, because powers, I think it's definitely setting a standard that you can no longer call these shows black shows, you know, because the cast again is so diverse, you to have to call it a Latino show. You'd have to call it a white show. You'd have to call it a Roman, Catholic show, whatever, religion, Jewish, all of that, because we covered all of those bases.

I think it's gonna I hate to use the word diverse because it's been ran into the ground, but it's definitely going to show that there are platforms for people of color and we are very can talent it, and we can bring a lot to a set. It doesn't matter what color it is. For us to be labeled a black show and for it to do so well that that says a lot in itself, you know. But moving forward, I would love for these parts to be written without any color whatsoever, Like any actor can come in there and basically get the part, you know, because powers, I think it's definitely setting a standard that you can no longer call these shows black shows, you know, because the cast again is so diverse, you to have to call it a Latino show. You'd have to call it a white show. You'd have to call it a Roman, Catholic show, whatever, religion, Jewish, all of that, because we covered all of those bases.

How much pressure are y'all feeling under when we think about the series finale and what other shows have, how they've you know, they've had that final moment, that indelible mark that they left on the world. How much pressure were y'all feeling to get this right? As the series finale approaches this Friday.

How much pressure are y'all feeling under when we think about the series finale and what other shows have, how they've you know, they've had that final moment, that indelible mark that they left on the world. How much pressure were y'all feeling to get this right? As the series finale approaches this Friday.

I think we I think a lot of times with power. The people that really follow the show would know that that ninth episode is always going to set up a banger for the tenth and the ninth episode is always kaboom. There's always a major something that happens. Last year with Sax's death and my brother this year. No spoiler alert because I'm not going to tell because there's some people who might not have seen it yet, but there's always something.

I think we I think a lot of times with power. The people that really follow the show would know that that ninth episode is always going to set up a banger for the tenth and the ninth episode is always kaboom. There's always a major something that happens. Last year with Sax's death and my brother this year. No spoiler alert because I'm not going to tell because there's some people who might not have seen it yet, but there's always something.

So I would rather go out with a bang or than a fart.

So I would rather go out with a bang or than a fart.

And we left it up to the writers, Brett Mahoney and the team to do their numbers on this one. So if people like it, let the actors take the credit. If they don't like it, let Brett Mahoney in that.

And we left it up to the writers, Brett Mahoney and the team to do their numbers on this one. So if people like it, let the actors take the credit. If they don't like it, let Brett Mahoney in that.

I like that plan. I like that plan. Nineteen ninety six Best Rap Performers by Duel You and Mary J. Blige. Just thirty years later, it's come full circle. The one would describe that is the moment with you and Mary jay a Blige acting together on this series. How would you describe it? What would you say about you two working together and what that's meant to you?

I like that plan. I like that plan. Nineteen ninety six Best Rap Performers by Duel You and Mary J. Blige. Just thirty years later, it's come full circle. The one would describe that is the moment with you and Mary jay a Blige acting together on this series. How would you describe it? What would you say about you two working together and what that's meant to you?

It was smart of them at first because you didn't see us together. I think most of the first season they kept us apart because they didn't want people to put us in that music light. And they kind of kept her being monet and kept me being Davis McLean as opposed to being married and met even though people were asking for it. They definitely were And a lot of the memes that popped up were of the video with me and Mary doing our thing. When we finally got to act together. I'll tell you those were some of the quickest days ever. Mary is a consummate professional, but not just because of that, because we laugh and joke most of the day.

It was smart of them at first because you didn't see us together. I think most of the first season they kept us apart because they didn't want people to put us in that music light. And they kind of kept her being monet and kept me being Davis McLean as opposed to being married and met even though people were asking for it. They definitely were And a lot of the memes that popped up were of the video with me and Mary doing our thing. When we finally got to act together. I'll tell you those were some of the quickest days ever. Mary is a consummate professional, but not just because of that, because we laugh and joke most of the day.

You know, we be on some mush stuff up there, you dig. You know. I just love her energy because she don't come to play at all.

You know, we be on some mush stuff up there, you dig. You know. I just love her energy because she don't come to play at all.

Come to handle her business. She always has. I mean every time you see it, you I met a couple of times. You just look at her. She just has that approach. She's about her business, She's about being elite at whatever it is that she chooses to do. That's why you don't have a choice but to respect her. But so much. I'm thinking about you though, from this perspective, I'm just gonna rattle off a couple of other memberable acting roles to do so plain train Wreck the Wire Is acting a priority for you now at this stage and point in your life, would you say so?

Come to handle her business. She always has. I mean every time you see it, you I met a couple of times. You just look at her. She just has that approach. She's about her business, She's about being elite at whatever it is that she chooses to do. That's why you don't have a choice but to respect her. But so much. I'm thinking about you though, from this perspective, I'm just gonna rattle off a couple of other memberable acting roles to do so plain train Wreck the Wire Is acting a priority for you now at this stage and point in your life, would you say so?

Absolutely? Absolutely? I love it.

Absolutely? Absolutely? I love it.

I love it once my mind was opened up to so many different It's just I don't It's a beautiful thing to be able to express yourself in so many different ways and be a creator. But acting just being just contributing to some kind of project that's going to be great and translating someone's vision from paper to film. Now, I mean you can't beat that right there, man. And you know, I just want to make sure I do my part, not just to stay relevant, but to you know, earn the respect of people that came before me and whose shoulders I stand on. It and let them know that this is in great hands with me. I will not take it for granting.

I love it once my mind was opened up to so many different It's just I don't It's a beautiful thing to be able to express yourself in so many different ways and be a creator. But acting just being just contributing to some kind of project that's going to be great and translating someone's vision from paper to film. Now, I mean you can't beat that right there, man. And you know, I just want to make sure I do my part, not just to stay relevant, but to you know, earn the respect of people that came before me and whose shoulders I stand on. It and let them know that this is in great hands with me. I will not take it for granting.

You made a name for yourself and hip hop and what have you. How are you feeling about the hip hop industry.

You made a name for yourself and hip hop and what have you. How are you feeling about the hip hop industry.

Today, Well, you gotta.

Today, Well, you gotta.

I mean our business acumen off the charts, off the charts right now.

I mean our business acumen off the charts, off the charts right now.

You know.

You know.

I think these kids learned a lot from our mistakes as far as taking care of their business first. But in the same vein, I think the art has suffered some A lot of things do sound the same, but that's not saying much because we did the same thing in the nineties. It's just that the difference between the nineties and now. If you heard a record, you knew exactly what region it came from. If you heard the West Coast record, you knew it because you heard that that funk You're the down South record, you knew it because you heard that twang in there, that that funky you know that base. If it came from New York, you knew what dom, you knew what tom it was. And even Bone Thugs when they when they first dropped, and Nelly from Saint Louis, he had his own original sound. That is I think where the game lost some of his juice. But I have so much confidence in these new cats coming up because I've been there with some brilliant stuff from some brilliant artists that are under twenty five years old.

I think these kids learned a lot from our mistakes as far as taking care of their business first. But in the same vein, I think the art has suffered some A lot of things do sound the same, but that's not saying much because we did the same thing in the nineties. It's just that the difference between the nineties and now. If you heard a record, you knew exactly what region it came from. If you heard the West Coast record, you knew it because you heard that that funk You're the down South record, you knew it because you heard that twang in there, that that funky you know that base. If it came from New York, you knew what dom, you knew what tom it was. And even Bone Thugs when they when they first dropped, and Nelly from Saint Louis, he had his own original sound. That is I think where the game lost some of his juice. But I have so much confidence in these new cats coming up because I've been there with some brilliant stuff from some brilliant artists that are under twenty five years old.

And these cats get it. These kids get it, man, they do.

And these cats get it. These kids get it, man, they do.

I'm wondering what level of concern you have about the industry from the standpoint I remember when you and the clan always greeted one another, What of God? What can y'all? Y'all y'all are about? Black positivity? Black empowerment? You my favorite, one of my all time's favorite is public Enemy care arrest. One can't ignore what he used to do, et cetera, et cetera. Black pride seem to be that thing. A lot of times you listened to some people and they're not They're not getting that from some in the hip hop industry. I want you to explain, is that a valid critique of valid skepticism about today's hip hop genre? Or are you feeling very positive about what we're hearing, what we're seeing and some of these artists on the come up.

I'm wondering what level of concern you have about the industry from the standpoint I remember when you and the clan always greeted one another, What of God? What can y'all? Y'all y'all are about? Black positivity? Black empowerment? You my favorite, one of my all time's favorite is public Enemy care arrest. One can't ignore what he used to do, et cetera, et cetera. Black pride seem to be that thing. A lot of times you listened to some people and they're not They're not getting that from some in the hip hop industry. I want you to explain, is that a valid critique of valid skepticism about today's hip hop genre? Or are you feeling very positive about what we're hearing, what we're seeing and some of these artists on the come up.

Okay, See, that's that's that's layered right there.

Okay, See, that's that's that's layered right there.

Because we've been discussing this since hip hop first began, and then there was a movement you know, native tongues, public enemy care one you must learn, and then for some reason it just got swallowed up by gangster rap, or not even just gangster rap, just that hardcore hip hop, because it was a need for that at the time. Now, I love the fact that there were people out there teaching us our history, and I love the fact that there were people out there, you know, basically teaching us how to dress, how to talk, act, walk and all that amongst wolves, you know, teach you how to run amongst the gangsters and things of that nature. But in the whole, as a whole, the music should not be held in just one category. I believe that it needs more room to grow. So we don't have a thing where it's like the industry is flooded with one thing.

Because we've been discussing this since hip hop first began, and then there was a movement you know, native tongues, public enemy care one you must learn, and then for some reason it just got swallowed up by gangster rap, or not even just gangster rap, just that hardcore hip hop, because it was a need for that at the time. Now, I love the fact that there were people out there teaching us our history, and I love the fact that there were people out there, you know, basically teaching us how to dress, how to talk, act, walk and all that amongst wolves, you know, teach you how to run amongst the gangsters and things of that nature. But in the whole, as a whole, the music should not be held in just one category. I believe that it needs more room to grow. So we don't have a thing where it's like the industry is flooded with one thing.

It's a bunch of things.

It's a bunch of things.

We can still have conscious hip hop right alongside gangster rap. If you ask me, both coincide together. It's just some people handle their business a little bit differently. You have your intellectuals and then you have your warriors, right and in my opinion that both warriors just one does it cerebrally.

We can still have conscious hip hop right alongside gangster rap. If you ask me, both coincide together. It's just some people handle their business a little bit differently. You have your intellectuals and then you have your warriors, right and in my opinion that both warriors just one does it cerebrally.

And I completely agree with you. As a matter of fact, sometimes I'm not even looking to blame the artists when stuff like that goes down. I'm looking at the industry because you young, you want to come up. You're trying to make a dollar, you understand, and they're telling you, nah, we ain't gonna hear it this, this ain't gonna work. This ain't gonna work. Do this this way, do it that way, And you have no choice if you want to get in the door in the industry in some instances, other than to follow what the executives and what the industry as a whole is telling you to do. Am I wrong in saying that, No.

And I completely agree with you. As a matter of fact, sometimes I'm not even looking to blame the artists when stuff like that goes down. I'm looking at the industry because you young, you want to come up. You're trying to make a dollar, you understand, and they're telling you, nah, we ain't gonna hear it this, this ain't gonna work. This ain't gonna work. Do this this way, do it that way, And you have no choice if you want to get in the door in the industry in some instances, other than to follow what the executives and what the industry as a whole is telling you to do. Am I wrong in saying that, No.

You're You're absolutely right. But I'll even put more on top of it.

You're You're absolutely right. But I'll even put more on top of it.

They're not telling these kids to like what they like as soon as it's like you have a child who doesn't eat, then you finally find something he likes, and you just keep beating him that over and over and over and over and over again until he gets tired up. Then you find something else he likes. Then you keep feeding them that over and over and over and over, whether it's good for him or not. You believe in that moment, you're giving your consumer what they want, and that's what the industry does. It doesn't have to be manipulated or bent. It's what the consumer. They see a want and they provide a service to the want.

They're not telling these kids to like what they like as soon as it's like you have a child who doesn't eat, then you finally find something he likes, and you just keep beating him that over and over and over and over and over again until he gets tired up. Then you find something else he likes. Then you keep feeding them that over and over and over and over, whether it's good for him or not. You believe in that moment, you're giving your consumer what they want, and that's what the industry does. It doesn't have to be manipulated or bent. It's what the consumer. They see a want and they provide a service to the want.

Period.

Period.

Now, mind you, you will have other artists coming in and they'll say, well, we want someone who sounds a little bit more like Drake. This is why we need more independence labels, that is, more independent record companies to show these people that there is life outside of the industry. There is a whole industry outside of the industry, and there are artists thriving that don't even have record deals, but people know who they are.

Now, mind you, you will have other artists coming in and they'll say, well, we want someone who sounds a little bit more like Drake. This is why we need more independence labels, that is, more independent record companies to show these people that there is life outside of the industry. There is a whole industry outside of the industry, and there are artists thriving that don't even have record deals, but people know who they are.

Good point, Good point, Just a few more questions for I'll let you get on out of here, metha. What were your thought about Kendrick Lamar Drake in that battle?

Good point, Good point, Just a few more questions for I'll let you get on out of here, metha. What were your thought about Kendrick Lamar Drake in that battle?

My business? That minds my business. But it was great for hip hop. I've seen that. I mean, I go back to LL cool J and mc shan. People don't know about that one, right there. Mc sham's going at LL cool J. Lle never answered Cararis one mc shan, same thing. Nobody They saw the battle, but they never seen the fights in the club. That would happen when certain records came on. So, I mean, this is all playing out, This is hip hop, this is the way it's supposed to be in every ten or fifteen years, maybe shorter than that, you're gonna have another one.

My business? That minds my business. But it was great for hip hop. I've seen that. I mean, I go back to LL cool J and mc shan. People don't know about that one, right there. Mc sham's going at LL cool J. Lle never answered Cararis one mc shan, same thing. Nobody They saw the battle, but they never seen the fights in the club. That would happen when certain records came on. So, I mean, this is all playing out, This is hip hop, this is the way it's supposed to be in every ten or fifteen years, maybe shorter than that, you're gonna have another one.

Of these and it's gonna be great for the circus.

Of these and it's gonna be great for the circus.

What were your thoughts when word came out that Jay Z and the Fellas picked Kendrick Lamar for the Super Bowl, but people like Lil Wayne, Master pe Cats from Louisiana felt it should have been somebody local. My argument, just so you know, was that outside of Snoop and Dre and there performing in la As so far about two three years ago, it was you almost never saw somebody performing for halftime at the super Bowl that was from that town where the super Bowl was being held. So what's the big deal? Now? That was my position. What was your position when you heard all the noise about Lil Wayne being upset and Kendrick Lamar performing at the super Bowl instead of somebody from Louisiana.

What were your thoughts when word came out that Jay Z and the Fellas picked Kendrick Lamar for the Super Bowl, but people like Lil Wayne, Master pe Cats from Louisiana felt it should have been somebody local. My argument, just so you know, was that outside of Snoop and Dre and there performing in la As so far about two three years ago, it was you almost never saw somebody performing for halftime at the super Bowl that was from that town where the super Bowl was being held. So what's the big deal? Now? That was my position. What was your position when you heard all the noise about Lil Wayne being upset and Kendrick Lamar performing at the super Bowl instead of somebody from Louisiana.

I actually saw that when you said that, and I was like, that's a beautiful statement for me, I honestly, and I'm just gonna keep it a Buck, I don't give a shit. But since I'm going the weigh in, I'm going to say Wayne has every right to be upset. But the point that you made is very valid. Just because you're from Louisiana does not warrant you to perform at the halftime Super Bowl. But I do believe there there should have been some kind of consideration for the artists from there where they can make maybe a guest appearance usher. For instance, did Vegas right last Super Bowl?

I actually saw that when you said that, and I was like, that's a beautiful statement for me, I honestly, and I'm just gonna keep it a Buck, I don't give a shit. But since I'm going the weigh in, I'm going to say Wayne has every right to be upset. But the point that you made is very valid. Just because you're from Louisiana does not warrant you to perform at the halftime Super Bowl. But I do believe there there should have been some kind of consideration for the artists from there where they can make maybe a guest appearance usher. For instance, did Vegas right last Super Bowl?

Right?

Right?

He brought on Little Johnny brought on Alisia Keys. It was like his own playlist.

He brought on Little Johnny brought on Alisia Keys. It was like his own playlist.

You know.

You know.

I don't know how that would work with Kendrick based off of the Drake and him, you know, having that little whatever it is, and you know, Drake basically being brought in by Wayne. So it's a little weird there. But when we're talking about business, we're not. It doesn't it doesn't matter who performs, the NFL wins the advertisers, well you know what I mean. So we're jocking for a position that we're not even going to see the plethora of the the credits or money so to speak, you know, And I get just wanting to have that experience of performing at the super Bowl in my own hometown, and this, that, and the third. I believe Weezy should, but he's not going to be able to do that because he was not picked. And Kendrick wasn't a bad choice at all, and I think he's going to do very well.

I don't know how that would work with Kendrick based off of the Drake and him, you know, having that little whatever it is, and you know, Drake basically being brought in by Wayne. So it's a little weird there. But when we're talking about business, we're not. It doesn't it doesn't matter who performs, the NFL wins the advertisers, well you know what I mean. So we're jocking for a position that we're not even going to see the plethora of the the credits or money so to speak, you know, And I get just wanting to have that experience of performing at the super Bowl in my own hometown, and this, that, and the third. I believe Weezy should, but he's not going to be able to do that because he was not picked. And Kendrick wasn't a bad choice at all, and I think he's going to do very well.

Who's the baddest artists out there right now? Yestimation?

Who's the baddest artists out there right now? Yestimation?

Who the baddest?

Who the baddest?

I mean, listen, man, I ain't qualified. I like the music that I'll like. I listen to who I listen to exceptionas I like a song head there or whatever, it's very rare, and I listened to when an entire album, and the legends are the legends. You just don't touch them. You always pay homage to them, you know what I'm saying. But in terms of the best out there, I don't think anybody should answer this damn question. Accept those entrenched in hip hop like yourself, who would know a thing or two about it? Damn it, I don't know, but I know you do.

I mean, listen, man, I ain't qualified. I like the music that I'll like. I listen to who I listen to exceptionas I like a song head there or whatever, it's very rare, and I listened to when an entire album, and the legends are the legends. You just don't touch them. You always pay homage to them, you know what I'm saying. But in terms of the best out there, I don't think anybody should answer this damn question. Accept those entrenched in hip hop like yourself, who would know a thing or two about it? Damn it, I don't know, but I know you do.

I'm gonna go with legacy, even though it's subjective subjective, I'm gonna go with legacy on this one. And I'm gonna have to say Snoop Dogg with the LL coming up right behind him. The reason why I say Snoop is Snoop has transcended rapper. He's transcendent artists. Snoop is a franchise now. Snoop is what you call he is doing. He should just be an ambassador for our music period or hold classes on how to broaden your horizons, how to master different trades, how to market yourself. Because Snoop is doing incredible things and we're looking at more than thirty years, even yes, thirty years, and he doesn't even have to drop musics.

I'm gonna go with legacy, even though it's subjective subjective, I'm gonna go with legacy on this one. And I'm gonna have to say Snoop Dogg with the LL coming up right behind him. The reason why I say Snoop is Snoop has transcended rapper. He's transcendent artists. Snoop is a franchise now. Snoop is what you call he is doing. He should just be an ambassador for our music period or hold classes on how to broaden your horizons, how to master different trades, how to market yourself. Because Snoop is doing incredible things and we're looking at more than thirty years, even yes, thirty years, and he doesn't even have to drop musics.

And that's the beauty of it, you know what I mean.

And that's the beauty of it, you know what I mean.

So I have pro I'm a I'm a sports analyst. I can assure you I ain't get paid no damn five hundred thousand dollars for one assignment. That ain't happen for me in this business. That's what that brother's pulling in. So I got news for you Snoopers on an extra level. Ain't no question about that.

So I have pro I'm a I'm a sports analyst. I can assure you I ain't get paid no damn five hundred thousand dollars for one assignment. That ain't happen for me in this business. That's what that brother's pulling in. So I got news for you Snoopers on an extra level. Ain't no question about that.

And if I'm following Brint, I'm following that one.

And if I'm following Brint, I'm following that one.

No doubt. LL not far behind ncis his active career into deep all of his music everything.

No doubt. LL not far behind ncis his active career into deep all of his music everything.

LL has been a superstar since he was six yesteen years Oh, he hasn't stopped since his first album dropped.

LL has been a superstar since he was six yesteen years Oh, he hasn't stopped since his first album dropped.

That's incredible.

That's incredible.

So when you think about the advice that you would espouse upon youngsters on the come up talking about what we're talking about, what would you say to them in the year twenty twenty four about moving forward, not just in this business, but with their life overall. Considering the kind of climate we live in.

So when you think about the advice that you would espouse upon youngsters on the come up talking about what we're talking about, what would you say to them in the year twenty twenty four about moving forward, not just in this business, but with their life overall. Considering the kind of climate we live in.

It, I can tell them this, you cannot move forward if you're in your own way. Get out of your own way, seriously and save your money.

It, I can tell them this, you cannot move forward if you're in your own way. Get out of your own way, seriously and save your money.

But what does that mean? Stay out of your own way? Crystallize that statement.

But what does that mean? Stay out of your own way? Crystallize that statement.

For a lot of times, we do things that we know aren't good for us. We compromise things that we don't even have to compromise that we look at in hindsight and say, if I could do that again, I would change this. I would say, go with your gut instincts. You got there, You're there for a reason, and it's got you that far. Stick with that. It's what worked for him. What work for Pete ain't gonna work for Paul. So stick to your guns, try to remain focused, and I think you'll be all right at the end of the day.

For a lot of times, we do things that we know aren't good for us. We compromise things that we don't even have to compromise that we look at in hindsight and say, if I could do that again, I would change this. I would say, go with your gut instincts. You got there, You're there for a reason, and it's got you that far. Stick with that. It's what worked for him. What work for Pete ain't gonna work for Paul. So stick to your guns, try to remain focused, and I think you'll be all right at the end of the day.

Man, Real talk can't have anybody from the hip hop industry, from the music industry on with me without even least asking them their thoughts on the state of P Diddy and what he's going through right now, sex trafficking, racketeer and all this stuff kind of trouble. He's in your thoughts, any thoughts you want to give about what your feelings are in regards to what happened with him right now? What's happening with him right now.

Man, Real talk can't have anybody from the hip hop industry, from the music industry on with me without even least asking them their thoughts on the state of P Diddy and what he's going through right now, sex trafficking, racketeer and all this stuff kind of trouble. He's in your thoughts, any thoughts you want to give about what your feelings are in regards to what happened with him right now? What's happening with him right now.

I would like to send love and light to his family. I would like to send love and light to his family, his children, and his mom. Yeah, that's that's. That's all I have to say about that.

I would like to send love and light to his family. I would like to send love and light to his family, his children, and his mom. Yeah, that's that's. That's all I have to say about that.

That's all. That's all you have to say. Cool, no problem for I'll let you get on out of here, man. One of the things that I've been noticing about Power with you on Power, you know you have a few scenes with Shirtle Yeah Future ye me. You know you you seem you seem committed to showing what kind of shape you in, you know, the muscles and all that. Now it's been an inspiration because my skinny ass with the pop belly and all all of that stuff. I was struggling a couple of years ago, Math, I mean, I I done changed my life around. I'm a lot healthier. I'm in the gym six days a week, bro. But I ain't looking like Method. Man, I ain't looking like Math. I'm not dead yet. I'm not dead yet. Okay, So what the hell is going on with all of that on the cover of mental health, you know, doing sex seeds and all of this. I mean, what the hell is going on? Math? But what's going on?

That's all. That's all you have to say. Cool, no problem for I'll let you get on out of here, man. One of the things that I've been noticing about Power with you on Power, you know you have a few scenes with Shirtle Yeah Future ye me. You know you you seem you seem committed to showing what kind of shape you in, you know, the muscles and all that. Now it's been an inspiration because my skinny ass with the pop belly and all all of that stuff. I was struggling a couple of years ago, Math, I mean, I I done changed my life around. I'm a lot healthier. I'm in the gym six days a week, bro. But I ain't looking like Method. Man, I ain't looking like Math. I'm not dead yet. I'm not dead yet. Okay, So what the hell is going on with all of that on the cover of mental health, you know, doing sex seeds and all of this. I mean, what the hell is going on? Math? But what's going on?

What's going on after the lize off it? Right now? While you still can you know what I mean?

What's going on after the lize off it? Right now? While you still can you know what I mean?

Yeo? Man?

Yeo? Man?

Like I told you.

Like I told you.

When we first started this interview, and shit like this position that you're in right now, not many people can dispute that you worked your ass off to get there. Same deal here, brother, I wanted to take control of me. I couldn't control anything else around me, couldn't control the industry, couldn't control record sales, what parts I got, things of that nature.

When we first started this interview, and shit like this position that you're in right now, not many people can dispute that you worked your ass off to get there. Same deal here, brother, I wanted to take control of me. I couldn't control anything else around me, couldn't control the industry, couldn't control record sales, what parts I got, things of that nature.

But I can control myself.

But I can control myself.

And I wanted to get as fit as possible and to push myself at as far as possible to see what I'm actually made of, not what society thinks of me, but what I think of myself.

And I wanted to get as fit as possible and to push myself at as far as possible to see what I'm actually made of, not what society thinks of me, but what I think of myself.

Were you going through some things from an anxiety perspective. I remember reading up or something about it, and you know you were going through some things mentally and emotionally before you got on this fitness tip. Can you talk about that a little bit and whether or not that was the reason you got in the gym, or did getting in the gym help you address those things? Which one was it?

Were you going through some things from an anxiety perspective. I remember reading up or something about it, and you know you were going through some things mentally and emotionally before you got on this fitness tip. Can you talk about that a little bit and whether or not that was the reason you got in the gym, or did getting in the gym help you address those things? Which one was it?

I can tell you this, anxiety depression always with me, always with me. My main reason for starting in the gym, starting with insomnia, and then my reasoning became I can't control anything else, but I can control myself. It's weird because it's always a constant battle to be happy and everyone's I mean, we know everyone's not going to be happy twenty four hours out the day and things of that nature. But you don't want to be so far in a rut that you cannot function. And anxiety does that to some people. Depression does that to some people. I don't have any solutions for it, but my coping mechanism was the gym. I would recommend anybody that's going through anything that is time for yourself, whether it's in the gym, whether you're hiking a trail or biking. It doesn't matter. You just need that time for yourself to focus on yourself and not worry about anything. Locking in on yourself.

I can tell you this, anxiety depression always with me, always with me. My main reason for starting in the gym, starting with insomnia, and then my reasoning became I can't control anything else, but I can control myself. It's weird because it's always a constant battle to be happy and everyone's I mean, we know everyone's not going to be happy twenty four hours out the day and things of that nature. But you don't want to be so far in a rut that you cannot function. And anxiety does that to some people. Depression does that to some people. I don't have any solutions for it, but my coping mechanism was the gym. I would recommend anybody that's going through anything that is time for yourself, whether it's in the gym, whether you're hiking a trail or biking. It doesn't matter. You just need that time for yourself to focus on yourself and not worry about anything. Locking in on yourself.

Listen, I gotta tell you this. It's done it for It's dunbe wonders for me. I've been I never been to the gym six days a week in my life until until the last year or so, and it's changed my life around. Bro. I can't even tell you how much better I feel about life. Area. So you give it some you give us some real knowledge in that regard before I let you get on out of here. Vegas residency Wu tang clan with I mean, how how is? How is? How's that been for? You? Talk about that for a second.

Listen, I gotta tell you this. It's done it for It's dunbe wonders for me. I've been I never been to the gym six days a week in my life until until the last year or so, and it's changed my life around. Bro. I can't even tell you how much better I feel about life. Area. So you give it some you give us some real knowledge in that regard before I let you get on out of here. Vegas residency Wu tang clan with I mean, how how is? How is? How's that been for? You? Talk about that for a second.

I loved it.

I loved it.

I mean, there's nothing greater than performing on stage with people you grew up with from teenage is on up and uh, you know, our crowd is a bit long in the.

I mean, there's nothing greater than performing on stage with people you grew up with from teenage is on up and uh, you know, our crowd is a bit long in the.

Two but so wee. But it's always great energy.

Two but so wee. But it's always great energy.

And anybody says that they never wanted to perform in Vegas is a liar.

And anybody says that they never wanted to perform in Vegas is a liar.

Uh, it's something about that town.

Uh, it's something about that town.

I think Wayne Newton comes with the ticket because we actually got to take a picture with him, and uh, you know, the Klan is the Klan, and to see us in that light, even though I was a fan saying, wow, I've never seen us like this big ever.

I think Wayne Newton comes with the ticket because we actually got to take a picture with him, and uh, you know, the Klan is the Klan, and to see us in that light, even though I was a fan saying, wow, I've never seen us like this big ever.

Hey man, So I'll let you go. You saw the Knicks. You see the Knicks get called Anthony Towns.

Hey man, So I'll let you go. You saw the Knicks. You see the Knicks get called Anthony Towns.

Yeah, but you know I'm gonna miss I'm gonna miss Yeah, I'm gonna miss Julius.

Yeah, but you know I'm gonna miss I'm gonna miss Yeah, I'm gonna miss Julius.

I'm gonna miss Devino, I'm gonna miss those guys. You know what I mean.

I'm gonna miss Devino, I'm gonna miss those guys. You know what I mean.

He's thing. Let's talk about this for quick second. Yeah, I'm gonna miss Devincenzo, that brother, big time shot Game two the way gave to it the guard and I was right there, that's right there courtside. I mean it was spectacular, it was special. Yes, here's my thing, Julius Randall. And I love Julius, durable workaholic, I love him. Never cheated us with effort, the whole bit. But he needs the ball and Jalen Brunst is there, so you ain't gonna get the ball. So I need a better dude that can catch and shoot. And that's where Carl Anthony town comes in. And that's why I think it's better. I would have loved to have kept Evincenzo. But I don't have a problem with the swap a cat for Julius Randall, that's what.

He's thing. Let's talk about this for quick second. Yeah, I'm gonna miss Devincenzo, that brother, big time shot Game two the way gave to it the guard and I was right there, that's right there courtside. I mean it was spectacular, it was special. Yes, here's my thing, Julius Randall. And I love Julius, durable workaholic, I love him. Never cheated us with effort, the whole bit. But he needs the ball and Jalen Brunst is there, so you ain't gonna get the ball. So I need a better dude that can catch and shoot. And that's where Carl Anthony town comes in. And that's why I think it's better. I would have loved to have kept Evincenzo. But I don't have a problem with the swap a cat for Julius Randall, that's what.

That's dope Because Mellow was asked a question. He was at our residency and one of our guys asked him the question, and I believe they said his answer was even about the trade.

That's dope Because Mellow was asked a question. He was at our residency and one of our guys asked him the question, and I believe they said his answer was even about the trade.

He said even, okay, he felt it was even.

He said even, okay, he felt it was even.

So I'm gonna go with that, and we're gonna see what this uh with this next season. Because Brunson is a star and I and and if was the missing piece to get us over the top, so be it. But I'm gonna tell you like this, they the Knicks ran and that in those playoffs, man, and you know when people were counting them out, they found a way to win, you know, with and without perks.

So I'm gonna go with that, and we're gonna see what this uh with this next season. Because Brunson is a star and I and and if was the missing piece to get us over the top, so be it. But I'm gonna tell you like this, they the Knicks ran and that in those playoffs, man, and you know when people were counting them out, they found a way to win, you know, with and without perks.

I gotta tell you I got the Knicks is third in the Eastern Conference. Nice boss is a champion, But I look at Philadelphia. You picked up Paul George and Beads lost about twenty five to thirty pounds. The brother averaged thirty five on one leg against the Knicks last year in the playoffs. If he healthy, I can't I can't give him the favorites. But the Knicks can beat him. They can't beat him though. They can't beat him metal.

I gotta tell you I got the Knicks is third in the Eastern Conference. Nice boss is a champion, But I look at Philadelphia. You picked up Paul George and Beads lost about twenty five to thirty pounds. The brother averaged thirty five on one leg against the Knicks last year in the playoffs. If he healthy, I can't I can't give him the favorites. But the Knicks can beat him. They can't beat him though. They can't beat him metal.

I believe so. There's something about Paul.

I believe so. There's something about Paul.

George has been a lot of people's favorite player over the years, but he's become many more people's favorite players in these later years.

George has been a lot of people's favorite player over the years, but he's become many more people's favorite players in these later years.

Man, something about that guy. He's a machine man.

Man, something about that guy. He's a machine man.

Love that dude, meth Man. I really appreciate everything. Man. I'm so happy for you, so proud of you. I can't wait to see the series finale Friday night. I told be fourth Power Book Ghost. I can't wait. You've been sensational on this show, my brother, number love for you. Brother. Hey, you called me little Stevie. I've never been offended by I never mind, bro, I never mind it at all. I'm like, hell, compare the myth. That's who the hell I am. That's what he wanted to call me. We all go with it. I appreciate you, big Stevie now, no doubt. Salute to you, my man, all the best of you. We'll talk soon, yes, sir, make sure y'all can catch the series finale of Power Book two Ghost on Stars Friday night, October fourth. Don't miss it. I damn sure I ain't missing it. I will be in front of the TV watching it. I can assure you of that. I can assure you of that. Welcome back to Stephen A. Smith Show right here but digital. It was a YouTube and of course our Heart Radio thanks again to the one only man himself, Clifford Smith. Cliff Smith, the actor extraordinaire. I mean I used to lean on the music. You know what I'm saying, Shorty. I'm here for you anytime you need me. For real, girls me in your world. Believe me, nothing make a man feel better than a woman creed with the crown that be down for whatever. I'm not gonna go any further than that. I'm not gonna go any further than that. Y'all know what I'm saying, because you know I just been a talking to. I got to give my man meth love because he deserves it. Stop some nuggets out there, all time great Snoop Dog number two on the list. I heard him. I heard him. You're said, his acting acting is what it is for him right now. I heard him. I heard him talked about the renaissance man that is Snoop. That is true. A lot of us should want to follow the path of a snoop dog considering what this brother has pulled off, what he has accomplished, how he has made himself mainstream, one of the biggest brands in the world. Okay, but Methay doing too damn shabby. Brilliant brother, brilliant conversation, incredibly talented, hard work and committed. And he's absolutely right. Time is money. When I'm doing general hospital as I digress for second, is I'm doing general hospital, I'm doing soap operas. I right, when you forget your lines, you know they got to stop the scene and start it all over. You know that everybody that's working on that scene you gotta start all over to. You know that you hold up people, and you hold up the ability to make money. That's a problem. And meth Is like, nah, I'm very demanded. I have expectations. And cats got a meeting that cats got a meeting. Y'all get that, y'all get that. All bosses have a mentality that the people who work for them have to meet a certain standard. It's how goes, it's how it goes. I think it's important to make that out. I think it's important. High like that. Meth Man just did that. No question about it, spoke about P Diddy, didn't have much to say. Most people in the music industry don't have much to say about P Diddy at this particular moment of time. Can't blame him, can't blame him. Shocked that he didn't have more to say about Kendrick Lamar and Drake. You know, mind's his business, minds his business. But he did highlight how you know, it would have been nicey Lil Wayne and somebody from New Orleans performing for the Super Bowl. But Kendrick Lamar and the Batcheler had a lot to say, a lot to peal from that. But in the end, here's the thing that you peel from him. Most of all, his greatness comes from his work and his commitment to excellence, and the fact that no matter how dowur, no matter how depressing things may seem, things may feel, things may look, you gotta keep going. You gotta push your head and keep going because there is always always light at the end of the tunnel if you're willing to purse VI and make it through. My man, meth What an honor and the privilege it was to talk to him. I enjoy it. I hope y'all did it as well. Until next time, everybody, Peace of love, Stephen A signing off

Love that dude, meth Man. I really appreciate everything. Man. I'm so happy for you, so proud of you. I can't wait to see the series finale Friday night. I told be fourth Power Book Ghost. I can't wait. You've been sensational on this show, my brother, number love for you. Brother. Hey, you called me little Stevie. I've never been offended by I never mind, bro, I never mind it at all. I'm like, hell, compare the myth. That's who the hell I am. That's what he wanted to call me. We all go with it. I appreciate you, big Stevie now, no doubt. Salute to you, my man, all the best of you. We'll talk soon, yes, sir, make sure y'all can catch the series finale of Power Book two Ghost on Stars Friday night, October fourth. Don't miss it. I damn sure I ain't missing it. I will be in front of the TV watching it. I can assure you of that. I can assure you of that. Welcome back to Stephen A. Smith Show right here but digital. It was a YouTube and of course our Heart Radio thanks again to the one only man himself, Clifford Smith. Cliff Smith, the actor extraordinaire. I mean I used to lean on the music. You know what I'm saying, Shorty. I'm here for you anytime you need me. For real, girls me in your world. Believe me, nothing make a man feel better than a woman creed with the crown that be down for whatever. I'm not gonna go any further than that. I'm not gonna go any further than that. Y'all know what I'm saying, because you know I just been a talking to. I got to give my man meth love because he deserves it. Stop some nuggets out there, all time great Snoop Dog number two on the list. I heard him. I heard him. You're said, his acting acting is what it is for him right now. I heard him. I heard him talked about the renaissance man that is Snoop. That is true. A lot of us should want to follow the path of a snoop dog considering what this brother has pulled off, what he has accomplished, how he has made himself mainstream, one of the biggest brands in the world. Okay, but Methay doing too damn shabby. Brilliant brother, brilliant conversation, incredibly talented, hard work and committed. And he's absolutely right. Time is money. When I'm doing general hospital as I digress for second, is I'm doing general hospital, I'm doing soap operas. I right, when you forget your lines, you know they got to stop the scene and start it all over. You know that everybody that's working on that scene you gotta start all over to. You know that you hold up people, and you hold up the ability to make money. That's a problem. And meth Is like, nah, I'm very demanded. I have expectations. And cats got a meeting that cats got a meeting. Y'all get that, y'all get that. All bosses have a mentality that the people who work for them have to meet a certain standard. It's how goes, it's how it goes. I think it's important to make that out. I think it's important. High like that. Meth Man just did that. No question about it, spoke about P Diddy, didn't have much to say. Most people in the music industry don't have much to say about P Diddy at this particular moment of time. Can't blame him, can't blame him. Shocked that he didn't have more to say about Kendrick Lamar and Drake. You know, mind's his business, minds his business. But he did highlight how you know, it would have been nicey Lil Wayne and somebody from New Orleans performing for the Super Bowl. But Kendrick Lamar and the Batcheler had a lot to say, a lot to peal from that. But in the end, here's the thing that you peel from him. Most of all, his greatness comes from his work and his commitment to excellence, and the fact that no matter how dowur, no matter how depressing things may seem, things may feel, things may look, you gotta keep going. You gotta push your head and keep going because there is always always light at the end of the tunnel if you're willing to purse VI and make it through. My man, meth What an honor and the privilege it was to talk to him. I enjoy it. I hope y'all did it as well. Until next time, everybody, Peace of love, Stephen A signing off