In college, Kaitlyn Clark was named the winner of the Nancy Lieberman point Guard of the Year two years in a row. If I remember correctly, I want to play something you said during the broadcast. Listen to this.

In college, Kaitlyn Clark was named the winner of the Nancy Lieberman point Guard of the Year two years in a row. If I remember correctly, I want to play something you said during the broadcast. Listen to this.

You know, when I walked in here before the game, there were just hundreds of fans lined up.

You know, when I walked in here before the game, there were just hundreds of fans lined up.

Oh yeah.

Oh yeah.

What Caitlyn Clark has done for the game is is generational, and I just as a baller to a baller, I just want to say thank you to you, Caitlyn Clark for just lifting our game up.

What Caitlyn Clark has done for the game is is generational, and I just as a baller to a baller, I just want to say thank you to you, Caitlyn Clark for just lifting our game up.

You and so many great players.

You and so many great players.

But what you're doing, You're gonna make all these women multi millionaires one day, like Tiger did, like Michael Jordan did, And we shouldn't hate on her. We should celebrate her, not tolerate her.

But what you're doing, You're gonna make all these women multi millionaires one day, like Tiger did, like Michael Jordan did, And we shouldn't hate on her. We should celebrate her, not tolerate her.

You know, Nancy, I listened to that sound, and that was one of the biggest reasons I wanted you on today, because you clearly feel such a level of appreciation for the greatness, for the potential and the greatness that we're witnessing from Caitlyn Clark. I want you to speak to why that is and whether or not you feel she's being appreciated enough by some members in the female basketball community.

You know, Nancy, I listened to that sound, and that was one of the biggest reasons I wanted you on today, because you clearly feel such a level of appreciation for the greatness, for the potential and the greatness that we're witnessing from Caitlyn Clark. I want you to speak to why that is and whether or not you feel she's being appreciated enough by some members in the female basketball community.

Well, I think you bring up a great point.

Well, I think you bring up a great point.

It's so important for us to understand that there's going to be generational players.

It's so important for us to understand that there's going to be generational players.

I'm not saying everybody's not going.

I'm not saying everybody's not going.

To be at the same talent level, but I'm saying that Caitlyn Clark has just caught the attention of the world.

To be at the same talent level, but I'm saying that Caitlyn Clark has just caught the attention of the world.

She might be right now.

She might be right now.

Maybe her and Simonbile's, you know, the most visible women athletes in the world right now. And this is a good thing for sports and internally, we can be women, we could be our worst enemies. We should embrace people who take us to another level. And she's done that and it's proven from her collegiate days with TV, with jersey sales, with.

Maybe her and Simonbile's, you know, the most visible women athletes in the world right now. And this is a good thing for sports and internally, we can be women, we could be our worst enemies. We should embrace people who take us to another level. And she's done that and it's proven from her collegiate days with TV, with jersey sales, with.

Arenas being filled.

Arenas being filled.

Why wouldn't you want to ride that train to success because it will change your tax bracket, you know, incrementally because of what she's doing. And there's so many great players like Asia Wilson. She's my unanimous MVP.

Why wouldn't you want to ride that train to success because it will change your tax bracket, you know, incrementally because of what she's doing. And there's so many great players like Asia Wilson. She's my unanimous MVP.

In this league.

In this league.

I don't think there's a player in the world right now better than Asia Wilson.

I don't think there's a player in the world right now better than Asia Wilson.

And we got great rookies.

And we got great rookies.

Andel Reestis, you know, broke this incredible rebounding record single season in WNBA history, these young players or Keia Jackson, Camella Cardoza. I mean, this is a great time, but it's the veterans and the youth. We have to come together because everybody has a hand in our growth.

Andel Reestis, you know, broke this incredible rebounding record single season in WNBA history, these young players or Keia Jackson, Camella Cardoza. I mean, this is a great time, but it's the veterans and the youth. We have to come together because everybody has a hand in our growth.

And you know, as.

And you know, as.

Good as some of the we didn't move the needle like Caitlyn and Movie the needle and everybody is benefiting from it.

Good as some of the we didn't move the needle like Caitlyn and Movie the needle and everybody is benefiting from it.

You know, Asy, I've been bringing this up for months that I've been taking hits for months because I wanted on Team USA, and I was not trying to say that she was better than one than any of the twelve players that was on the squad. What I was saying is that female basketball, women's basketball has been starving for recognition for so long, all the hard work, all the tremendous effort to bless and tears that so many of these wonderful ladies have put into the game, including yourself, by the way, and the lack of recognition that has come along with it. Here was a person that America had gravitated to in such a way that you could utilize it to your advantage to benefit everybody. Yet folks were appalled that I would did have the temerity to bring up marketing and promotion as something that should play a role, and ultimately you decided who's on Team USA to promote the game of basketball. Was that wrong in feeling that way, Well.

You know, Asy, I've been bringing this up for months that I've been taking hits for months because I wanted on Team USA, and I was not trying to say that she was better than one than any of the twelve players that was on the squad. What I was saying is that female basketball, women's basketball has been starving for recognition for so long, all the hard work, all the tremendous effort to bless and tears that so many of these wonderful ladies have put into the game, including yourself, by the way, and the lack of recognition that has come along with it. Here was a person that America had gravitated to in such a way that you could utilize it to your advantage to benefit everybody. Yet folks were appalled that I would did have the temerity to bring up marketing and promotion as something that should play a role, and ultimately you decided who's on Team USA to promote the game of basketball. Was that wrong in feeling that way, Well.

They came at you really hard, and that was short sighted, because first of all, she very well could have played and should have played. In my opinion, I aligned with you on Team USA.

They came at you really hard, and that was short sighted, because first of all, she very well could have played and should have played. In my opinion, I aligned with you on Team USA.

I am saying this.

I am saying this.

As you know, I'm still the youngest Olympic basketball player ever.

As you know, I'm still the youngest Olympic basketball player ever.

In nineteen seventy six, I was a high school senior.

In nineteen seventy six, I was a high school senior.

I was seventeen years old, and the late Billy Moore, the Hall of Famer, my coach.

I was seventeen years old, and the late Billy Moore, the Hall of Famer, my coach.

She had one.

She had one.

Pick, and she picked me for the future of the game because she knew the last player who was a great and All American, just a star of stars, wouldn't get a lot of minutes.

Pick, and she picked me for the future of the game because she knew the last player who was a great and All American, just a star of stars, wouldn't get a lot of minutes.

So she used that position.

So she used that position.

And I thought that this team could have used Caitlin Clark for that same express reason, because she was going to bring more eyeballs. She was going to make USA basketball, you know, more prominent.

And I thought that this team could have used Caitlin Clark for that same express reason, because she was going to bring more eyeballs. She was going to make USA basketball, you know, more prominent.

And we're talking about economics here.

And we're talking about economics here.

We're not just talking about you know, because just because we're talking about we want long term you know, sustainability and success. We can't sit there and say we want what the NBA guys have, you know, seventy something years later, they've built it to you know, that eight billion dollar a year business, and we're trying to build it now. And we have somebody who's moving the needle because the W right now is outdrawing Major League Baseball, some you know, soccer, some of the golf, some of the other sports.

We're not just talking about you know, because just because we're talking about we want long term you know, sustainability and success. We can't sit there and say we want what the NBA guys have, you know, seventy something years later, they've built it to you know, that eight billion dollar a year business, and we're trying to build it now. And we have somebody who's moving the needle because the W right now is outdrawing Major League Baseball, some you know, soccer, some of the golf, some of the other sports.

We've never had this before.

We've never had this before.

And for Caitlin and the Fever, I think five of the highest rated games this year have all been Indiana Fever. They lead in Jersey sales, they lead in attendance, any significant category that's tied to dollars and cents, and that's how we should be viewed, dollars and cents, because that's how you build a business. Then everybody goes up and everybody is successful.

And for Caitlin and the Fever, I think five of the highest rated games this year have all been Indiana Fever. They lead in Jersey sales, they lead in attendance, any significant category that's tied to dollars and cents, and that's how we should be viewed, dollars and cents, because that's how you build a business. Then everybody goes up and everybody is successful.

Together.

Together.

Explain what specifically you believe the issue is with Caitlyn Clark in terms of the lack of support that she's received from some, certainly, not most, not all. Most people support her. They see her potential, they see her greatness, they see what she's done for the game. There's an level of appreciation even the great Dawn Stealey, you know, in winning the national championship, she thanked Caitlyn Clark for what Caitlyn Clark did for the game, for women's basketball or whatever. But there's been a small cadre of individuals that obviously have come across in a different fashion. What is what is the thing that you're hearing Nancy as to what their justification for feeling feeling a bit reticent about throwing that lack of that that support in Caitlyn Clark's direction.

Explain what specifically you believe the issue is with Caitlyn Clark in terms of the lack of support that she's received from some, certainly, not most, not all. Most people support her. They see her potential, they see her greatness, they see what she's done for the game. There's an level of appreciation even the great Dawn Stealey, you know, in winning the national championship, she thanked Caitlyn Clark for what Caitlyn Clark did for the game, for women's basketball or whatever. But there's been a small cadre of individuals that obviously have come across in a different fashion. What is what is the thing that you're hearing Nancy as to what their justification for feeling feeling a bit reticent about throwing that lack of that that support in Caitlyn Clark's direction.

Well, it depends who you're talking to.

Well, it depends who you're talking to.

If you're talking about the keyboard warriors who hide behind you know, two hundred and eighty, you know, uh, you know, taps of their their their or whatever they're using. You know they're going to say something that first of all, they don't even realize that the players in this or friends with one another. Okay, So you might sit there and try to create this animosity or you might try to bring in well racism and this, and you know, there's no racism. I've been through this for a long time. I never came down the court and looked at somebody white or black and threw the ball to the white kid.

If you're talking about the keyboard warriors who hide behind you know, two hundred and eighty, you know, uh, you know, taps of their their their or whatever they're using. You know they're going to say something that first of all, they don't even realize that the players in this or friends with one another. Okay, So you might sit there and try to create this animosity or you might try to bring in well racism and this, and you know, there's no racism. I've been through this for a long time. I never came down the court and looked at somebody white or black and threw the ball to the white kid.

I'm throwing into the player who's the better player.

I'm throwing into the player who's the better player.

They're trying to pick Angel and Caitlyn against each other. They're friends, by the way, they're helping grow the sport. And for those who it's not a Caitlyn thing, it's.

They're trying to pick Angel and Caitlyn against each other. They're friends, by the way, they're helping grow the sport. And for those who it's not a Caitlyn thing, it's.

A people thing.

A people thing.

I mean, people were so jealous of Michael Jordan back in nineteen eighty four when he came out of you know, unc A. Chicago stadium was half empty prior to him arriving. Then the stadiums were filling up. Then TV wanted him and the Bulls on every game.

I mean, people were so jealous of Michael Jordan back in nineteen eighty four when he came out of you know, unc A. Chicago stadium was half empty prior to him arriving. Then the stadiums were filling up. Then TV wanted him and the Bulls on every game.

By the way, you know this as a.

By the way, you know this as a.

Fact, David Falk, his agent, pulled his jersey out of the GLA because Michael Jordan's jersey and I don't know the exact number, but let's say it was ninety percent of all jersey sales were Michael Jordan's jersey and he was getting like one thirteen hundredth of that and all the money was being you know, dispersed throughout all the players that were playing. He yanked his out because he saw the value of what was happening. Tiger Woods goes to the PGA, changes how the sport is viewed. It's not just a bunch of you know, white guys hitting balls in an elitist sport.

Fact, David Falk, his agent, pulled his jersey out of the GLA because Michael Jordan's jersey and I don't know the exact number, but let's say it was ninety percent of all jersey sales were Michael Jordan's jersey and he was getting like one thirteen hundredth of that and all the money was being you know, dispersed throughout all the players that were playing. He yanked his out because he saw the value of what was happening. Tiger Woods goes to the PGA, changes how the sport is viewed. It's not just a bunch of you know, white guys hitting balls in an elitist sport.

It's changed.

It's changed.

I mean, look at all the guys of color, women of color that play golf now because it's acceptable.

I mean, look at all the guys of color, women of color that play golf now because it's acceptable.

You should be able to do what you love.

You should be able to do what you love.

But it was him who was the catalysts to change, and all of a sudden he gets to a certain point in his career and people are jealous and envious. You know, he changed the TV ratings, he changed the purses. Did you know Scotty just win twenty five million dollars the other day. It's not because of Scottie, that's because of Tiger Woods. And I just don't understand people. Now you have signature shoes for both men and women because what MJ did and how he and his team constructed business. Caitlin is doing that right now and she should be supported and not maligned for that

But it was him who was the catalysts to change, and all of a sudden he gets to a certain point in his career and people are jealous and envious. You know, he changed the TV ratings, he changed the purses. Did you know Scotty just win twenty five million dollars the other day. It's not because of Scottie, that's because of Tiger Woods. And I just don't understand people. Now you have signature shoes for both men and women because what MJ did and how he and his team constructed business. Caitlin is doing that right now and she should be supported and not maligned for that