I don't know about the rest of y'all. I don't know about the rest of y'all, but I'm gonna use a sports analogy when I'm talking about politics on this particular day, for this particular show, what we're witnessing as we speak may be the biggest choke job in the history of politics. I think you have an idea what the hell I'm talking about. But in case you don't tune in, it's The Stephen A. Smith Show coming your way right now. What's up, everybody? Welcome to the latest edition of The Steph Nate Smith Show, coming at you as I love to do at the very least at least three days a week over the digital airways of YouTube and of course iHeartRadio. As always, I like to take a moment to thank my subscribers, my followers, my supporters, my listeners, because we've now eclipsed over seven hundred and eighty four thousand subscribers and we continue to climb, climb, climb, rapidly, approaching eight hundred thousand subscribers on the YouTube channel, not to mention over two point five million downloads over iHeartRadio over the last couple of months. Can't thank y'all for the love and support. Enough keep it coming, and I'm going to keep on coming. Before I get into today's show, I just want to take an opportunity to let everybody know we know what this day is. It's September eleventh, it's nine to eleven, and we remember that faithful day many years ago when thousands upon thousands of American lives were lost because not one but two planes crashed intentionally into the World Trade Center and it was the greatest attack on American soil in history. And we know the devastating losses that have taken place because of that event, We know the lives that have been irreparably and permanently altered, And just wanted to take a moment to extend my heartfelt condolences to all those who've lost loved ones in nine to eleven and to let you know that myself, my staff, my colleagues, contemporaries, the people that I employ, and everybody in between, our hearts are always with you. He will never forget, We will never forget. Let me move on to the subject at hand, because he's got a lot of stuff to get into. I'm gonna get into jay Z and how folks have been going after him big time because of the selection that has taken place with Super Bowl fifty nine in New Orleans, Louisiana. The halftime selection and halftime performer is not going to be what some people or who some people think it should be. And jay Z has been eviscerated by a lot of people verbally with the things that they've been saying. So we're definitely going to touch on that. Gil's Arena, led by Gilbert Arena's former NBA star, had a debate about the best team in NBA history. He has some interesting comments. I've got some interesting pushback on that that I'd love for you all to hear. But before I do any of that, I felt it was necessary to touch on the biggest story going on in America, and that is the debate that took place to presidential debate that took place last night in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, with Vice President Kamala Harris versus former President Donald Trump. It was not a good night for Donald Trump. Let's get that out the way first. It was not a good night for him because the reality is that you got a lot of people pointing the fingers they're pointing the fingers at the moderators Lindsey Davis and of course David Muir for ABC, who are moderating the debate, and a lot of people have been very very critical of them, particularly critical folks that are on the right. Some folks looked at Trump and they felt that he wasn't his sharpest. They brought those things up. I was amused by the debate because, in my estimation, I got to give credit where credit is due. I have to be consistent. Now we all know that I've been on the record lamenting the state of affairs going on with Vice President Kamala Harris. I've been pointing out the fact that Joe Biden, before he stepped down, there was no primary and the skids had been greased for him to cake walk to the Democratic National Convention as the Democratic nominee for the presidency of the United States, and he wasn't doing interviews, he wasn't available, he wasn't available to take an abundance of questions from reporters, and then on June twenty seventh, he was exposed for being somewhat cognitively declined and as a result, a few weeks later forced to step away and hand the reins to Kamala Harris to be the Democratic nominee, and therefore she had no resistance. And I took into account the fact that he didn't have resistance for the primaries, she didn't have any resistance. And so as a result, she doesn't need to be avoiding interviews. She needs to stand up, take tough questions and deal with the onslaught of cynicism that might come in her direction. That's how I felt about it. That's how I still feel about it. Having said all of that, she went into that debate last night, and let me be very clear, she won. She won because we're not going to get into the substance or lack thereof, as it pertains the Pacific topics that would present it. Has she flip flopped on fracking, It appears to be so. Has she flip flopped on healthcare, Yes, it appears so. Has she flip flopped on the border? It appears so. But that ain't what this segment is about today. This segment is about the debate and who did their job in resonating with and ingratiating themselves with the constituency out there for the purposes of defining who was Sharper, who was more prepared, who was more presentable, who had a more favorable outing for the debate, and it was clearly hard. It was clearly hard. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna mince words. She whipped his ass. I'm gonna say that because whether it was him not being prepared or him taking her for granted because he assumed it was going to be a cake walk. She played the role of agitator. She did what Trump did. She reversed it. She reversed it. She flipped the script on him. She can't, as my boy Mark would say, she can't. He came with the cross. She came with the criss cross. That's what happened. She pulled the Trump. Think I'm lying, Griff, play tape one please.

I don't know about the rest of y'all. I don't know about the rest of y'all, but I'm gonna use a sports analogy when I'm talking about politics on this particular day, for this particular show, what we're witnessing as we speak may be the biggest choke job in the history of politics. I think you have an idea what the hell I'm talking about. But in case you don't tune in, it's The Stephen A. Smith Show coming your way right now. What's up, everybody? Welcome to the latest edition of The Steph Nate Smith Show, coming at you as I love to do at the very least at least three days a week over the digital airways of YouTube and of course iHeartRadio. As always, I like to take a moment to thank my subscribers, my followers, my supporters, my listeners, because we've now eclipsed over seven hundred and eighty four thousand subscribers and we continue to climb, climb, climb, rapidly, approaching eight hundred thousand subscribers on the YouTube channel, not to mention over two point five million downloads over iHeartRadio over the last couple of months. Can't thank y'all for the love and support. Enough keep it coming, and I'm going to keep on coming. Before I get into today's show, I just want to take an opportunity to let everybody know we know what this day is. It's September eleventh, it's nine to eleven, and we remember that faithful day many years ago when thousands upon thousands of American lives were lost because not one but two planes crashed intentionally into the World Trade Center and it was the greatest attack on American soil in history. And we know the devastating losses that have taken place because of that event, We know the lives that have been irreparably and permanently altered, And just wanted to take a moment to extend my heartfelt condolences to all those who've lost loved ones in nine to eleven and to let you know that myself, my staff, my colleagues, contemporaries, the people that I employ, and everybody in between, our hearts are always with you. He will never forget, We will never forget. Let me move on to the subject at hand, because he's got a lot of stuff to get into. I'm gonna get into jay Z and how folks have been going after him big time because of the selection that has taken place with Super Bowl fifty nine in New Orleans, Louisiana. The halftime selection and halftime performer is not going to be what some people or who some people think it should be. And jay Z has been eviscerated by a lot of people verbally with the things that they've been saying. So we're definitely going to touch on that. Gil's Arena, led by Gilbert Arena's former NBA star, had a debate about the best team in NBA history. He has some interesting comments. I've got some interesting pushback on that that I'd love for you all to hear. But before I do any of that, I felt it was necessary to touch on the biggest story going on in America, and that is the debate that took place to presidential debate that took place last night in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, with Vice President Kamala Harris versus former President Donald Trump. It was not a good night for Donald Trump. Let's get that out the way first. It was not a good night for him because the reality is that you got a lot of people pointing the fingers they're pointing the fingers at the moderators Lindsey Davis and of course David Muir for ABC, who are moderating the debate, and a lot of people have been very very critical of them, particularly critical folks that are on the right. Some folks looked at Trump and they felt that he wasn't his sharpest. They brought those things up. I was amused by the debate because, in my estimation, I got to give credit where credit is due. I have to be consistent. Now we all know that I've been on the record lamenting the state of affairs going on with Vice President Kamala Harris. I've been pointing out the fact that Joe Biden, before he stepped down, there was no primary and the skids had been greased for him to cake walk to the Democratic National Convention as the Democratic nominee for the presidency of the United States, and he wasn't doing interviews, he wasn't available, he wasn't available to take an abundance of questions from reporters, and then on June twenty seventh, he was exposed for being somewhat cognitively declined and as a result, a few weeks later forced to step away and hand the reins to Kamala Harris to be the Democratic nominee, and therefore she had no resistance. And I took into account the fact that he didn't have resistance for the primaries, she didn't have any resistance. And so as a result, she doesn't need to be avoiding interviews. She needs to stand up, take tough questions and deal with the onslaught of cynicism that might come in her direction. That's how I felt about it. That's how I still feel about it. Having said all of that, she went into that debate last night, and let me be very clear, she won. She won because we're not going to get into the substance or lack thereof, as it pertains the Pacific topics that would present it. Has she flip flopped on fracking, It appears to be so. Has she flip flopped on healthcare, Yes, it appears so. Has she flip flopped on the border? It appears so. But that ain't what this segment is about today. This segment is about the debate and who did their job in resonating with and ingratiating themselves with the constituency out there for the purposes of defining who was Sharper, who was more prepared, who was more presentable, who had a more favorable outing for the debate, and it was clearly hard. It was clearly hard. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna mince words. She whipped his ass. I'm gonna say that because whether it was him not being prepared or him taking her for granted because he assumed it was going to be a cake walk. She played the role of agitator. She did what Trump did. She reversed it. She reversed it. She flipped the script on him. She can't, as my boy Mark would say, she can't. He came with the cross. She came with the criss cross. That's what happened. She pulled the Trump. Think I'm lying, Griff, play tape one please.

I'm gonna actually do something really unusual. And I'm gonna invite you to attend one of Donald Trump's rallies because it's a really interesting thing to watch.

I'm gonna actually do something really unusual. And I'm gonna invite you to attend one of Donald Trump's rallies because it's a really interesting thing to watch.

You will see.

You will see.

During the course of his rallies he talks about fictional characters like Hannibal elector. He will talk about wind mills cause cancer. And what you will also notice is that people start leaving his rallies early out of exhaustion and boredom. And I will tell you the one thing you will not hear him talk about is you. You will not hear him talk about your needs, your dreams, and your need and your desires. And I'll tell you I believe you deserve a president who actually puts you first. And I pledge to you that I will Oh.

During the course of his rallies he talks about fictional characters like Hannibal elector. He will talk about wind mills cause cancer. And what you will also notice is that people start leaving his rallies early out of exhaustion and boredom. And I will tell you the one thing you will not hear him talk about is you. You will not hear him talk about your needs, your dreams, and your need and your desires. And I'll tell you I believe you deserve a president who actually puts you first. And I pledge to you that I will Oh.

Oh see, got them. See you gotta understand, ladies and gentlemen. You can talk all of that stuff about everything. You can bring up all the issues that I brought up. You can bring up Trump, you know, lamenting the twenty twenty election and talking about the borders and all of this other stuff. Who you're listening to right now is not a mid Who you're listening to right now is not somebody even though I was a reporter for years, that's not reporting. Who you're listening to right now? Dare I say, I'm sorry if I'm a little cocky when I throw this out, ra Sean, I'm sorry if I'm a little cocky when I throw this out, Griff, You're listening to somebody. Dare I say, who's considered the master debater? This is my lane. It's my lane right here and I'm telling you something right now. She got him good. There, she got him good. You know why, because she clearly agitated them from that point forward. He was talking about, look at my rallies. Look at the number of people who show up. They're not exhausted, they're very interested. They flock to my rallies. Blah blah blah. He got himself preoccupied with offsetting or off putting her accusations that she lobbed against them, instead of really focusing in on what the hell her record is. He didn't do that. That's exactly what she wanted, and he played right into her hands when she brought up Hannibal lecter manner. He was being clowned for bringing that up at one of his speeches because we know he deviates from the script, goes off prompt to off kilter, and then when he add libs as when he's at his worst. That's what transpired. So you had to hannibal elect the comment. Okay, you understand, and that she said, people notice that people start leaving his rallies out early out of exhaustion and boredom. Look at his face. Look at his face when she threw out the word boredom. That was problematic for him, and from that point forward, he got preoccupied with defending himself instead of being on the attack when it's usually him that's on the attack. And she didn't stop there. She didn't stop that at all. Play cutting number two, Griff, give.

Oh see, got them. See you gotta understand, ladies and gentlemen. You can talk all of that stuff about everything. You can bring up all the issues that I brought up. You can bring up Trump, you know, lamenting the twenty twenty election and talking about the borders and all of this other stuff. Who you're listening to right now is not a mid Who you're listening to right now is not somebody even though I was a reporter for years, that's not reporting. Who you're listening to right now? Dare I say, I'm sorry if I'm a little cocky when I throw this out, ra Sean, I'm sorry if I'm a little cocky when I throw this out, Griff, You're listening to somebody. Dare I say, who's considered the master debater? This is my lane. It's my lane right here and I'm telling you something right now. She got him good. There, she got him good. You know why, because she clearly agitated them from that point forward. He was talking about, look at my rallies. Look at the number of people who show up. They're not exhausted, they're very interested. They flock to my rallies. Blah blah blah. He got himself preoccupied with offsetting or off putting her accusations that she lobbed against them, instead of really focusing in on what the hell her record is. He didn't do that. That's exactly what she wanted, and he played right into her hands when she brought up Hannibal lecter manner. He was being clowned for bringing that up at one of his speeches because we know he deviates from the script, goes off prompt to off kilter, and then when he add libs as when he's at his worst. That's what transpired. So you had to hannibal elect the comment. Okay, you understand, and that she said, people notice that people start leaving his rallies out early out of exhaustion and boredom. Look at his face. Look at his face when she threw out the word boredom. That was problematic for him, and from that point forward, he got preoccupied with defending himself instead of being on the attack when it's usually him that's on the attack. And she didn't stop there. She didn't stop that at all. Play cutting number two, Griff, give.

It to me what they have done to our country by allowing these millions and millions of people to come into our country and looking for what's happening to the towns all over the United States, and a lot of towns don't want to talk. It's not going to be Aurora or Springfield. A lot of towns don't want to talk about it because so embarrassed by it. In Springfield, they're eating the dogs the people that came in, they're eating the cats, they're eating they're eating the pets of the people that live there. And this is what's happening in our country.

It to me what they have done to our country by allowing these millions and millions of people to come into our country and looking for what's happening to the towns all over the United States, and a lot of towns don't want to talk. It's not going to be Aurora or Springfield. A lot of towns don't want to talk about it because so embarrassed by it. In Springfield, they're eating the dogs the people that came in, they're eating the cats, they're eating they're eating the pets of the people that live there. And this is what's happening in our country.

I just want to clarify here. You bring up Springfield, Ohio, and ABC News did reach out to the city manager there. He told us there have been no credible reports of specific claims of pets being harmed, injured, or abused by individuals within the immigrant community.

I just want to clarify here. You bring up Springfield, Ohio, and ABC News did reach out to the city manager there. He told us there have been no credible reports of specific claims of pets being harmed, injured, or abused by individuals within the immigrant community.

All I've seen people intelligen Let me just say this is the people on television, So my dog was taken and used for food. So maybe he said that, and maybe that's a good thing to say for a city manager.

All I've seen people intelligen Let me just say this is the people on television, So my dog was taken and used for food. So maybe he said that, and maybe that's a good thing to say for a city manager.

I'm not taking this from people on television to say, man, dog was eaten by the people that went there.

I'm not taking this from people on television to say, man, dog was eaten by the people that went there.

I don't understand why David mull would even interrupt at that point. Just let him speak and let's hear what Kamala Harris's response was. But neither here nor there. It's not me. This man's a pro. He knows what he's doing. I'll leave it at that. I just didn't see the purpose of that. But my point is, you have any idea how ridiculous that sounded. Now, I remember seeing somebody actually say that, But just because they said it didn't make it true. So for a former president who's now a presidential candidate to be uttering such stuff during a debate didn't appear to be the wisest, most cogent, most smartest thing to tell. Okay, especially when you got Kamala Harris being just brilliant in terms of showing her level of preparation and how it worked for her with her facial expressions in the way she was coming back at him. She was basically looking at him like he was silly, and it was serving to agitate him and rile him up even more and get him off message. Remember, we got inflation to deal with. We've got an economy that the left has been bragging about and the right has been excoriating. We've got that going on. We've got border issues, which, by the way, whether they want to say she was the ZAR or not, whether people like Roland Martin and others who's been on this show saying she was not theizarre, there were people labeling her the borders are and over ten and a half million immigrants migrants came across the border illegally, and he couldn't zero in on that no matter how much he tried to bring it up, because he just appeared to be rambling, and so that didn't work to his advantage either. But that wasn't all. Look at what Kamala Harris did here. Play cut number seven. Griff, take it away.

I don't understand why David mull would even interrupt at that point. Just let him speak and let's hear what Kamala Harris's response was. But neither here nor there. It's not me. This man's a pro. He knows what he's doing. I'll leave it at that. I just didn't see the purpose of that. But my point is, you have any idea how ridiculous that sounded. Now, I remember seeing somebody actually say that, But just because they said it didn't make it true. So for a former president who's now a presidential candidate to be uttering such stuff during a debate didn't appear to be the wisest, most cogent, most smartest thing to tell. Okay, especially when you got Kamala Harris being just brilliant in terms of showing her level of preparation and how it worked for her with her facial expressions in the way she was coming back at him. She was basically looking at him like he was silly, and it was serving to agitate him and rile him up even more and get him off message. Remember, we got inflation to deal with. We've got an economy that the left has been bragging about and the right has been excoriating. We've got that going on. We've got border issues, which, by the way, whether they want to say she was the ZAR or not, whether people like Roland Martin and others who's been on this show saying she was not theizarre, there were people labeling her the borders are and over ten and a half million immigrants migrants came across the border illegally, and he couldn't zero in on that no matter how much he tried to bring it up, because he just appeared to be rambling, and so that didn't work to his advantage either. But that wasn't all. Look at what Kamala Harris did here. Play cut number seven. Griff, take it away.

Why do you believe it's appropriate to weigh in on the racial identity of your opponent?

Why do you believe it's appropriate to weigh in on the racial identity of your opponent?

I don't and I don't care. I don't care what she is. I don't care.

I don't and I don't care. I don't care what she is. I don't care.

You make a big deal out of something. I couldn't care less. Whatever she wants to be is okay with me.

You make a big deal out of something. I couldn't care less. Whatever she wants to be is okay with me.

But those were your words.

But those were your words.

So I don't know. I don't know.

So I don't know. I don't know.

I mean, all I can say is I read where she was not black that she put out and I'll say that, and then I read that she was black, and that's okay either one who was okay with me, that's up to her.

I mean, all I can say is I read where she was not black that she put out and I'll say that, and then I read that she was black, and that's okay either one who was okay with me, that's up to her.

That's up to her, Good Lord of mercy, how embarrassing. All you have to say in the situation like that is that one minute she's trying to cater to one constituency, another minute she's trying to cater to the next. But he isn't the most articulate person in the world at times. And it came across that way last night. Did you see how skillfully she would slide in and give remarks and that she slide out and just let him talk? What are the things that they talked about during the campaign in twenty twenty when Biden was going to go up against them, They said the right was saying, let Biden talk, he'll slip up. Biden said, nah, we were employing the strength same strategy, let him talk, he'll slip up, And that is what Kamala Harris executed last night. There is no way around this, Okay, So we watching here and I'm just reading for the Wall Street Journal, by the way, who's prone to lean right, But certainly I love their paper. They have a lot of objective material up in there. They called it like they saw it. Mister Trump went on to say that the FBI crime statistics are fraud, and the Bureau of Labor statistic job numbers are a fraud. And the twenty twenty election was, yes, still a fraud, and they should have sent it back to the legislatures. About the January twenty sixth, twenty twenty one ride at the US Capitol, he regretted nothing. Then world War three again? What if this is supposed to reassure suburban nights to worry that mister Trump is too erratic to put back in the Oval office. That is the strategy that Kamala Harris exercised. She took him to school. And I'm gonna tell you something right now. I'm gonna say it right now, what we are witnessing before our very eyes may be the biggest choke job in political history. Somebody needs to say it. So I'm gonna say it, the biggest choke job in political history. And here's why. When Donald Trump, when there was an attempted assassination on the life of Donald Trump, remember what happened. Something hits his ear, he touches his ear, he goes down. Secret Service piles on top of him to secure him. Once that happens, he gets up. He's got blood streaming down the right side of his face and his ear, at which time he then gets up, surrounded by Secret Service, raises his fist in the ear and pumps it. Fight. Fight, Fight, with the American flag draped behind him. You couldn't buy a more perfect moment, a more perfect scene for a politician in the history of this country. And that when that happened, all he had to do was shut up, let his surrogate speak for him. And instead, all he has continued to do is show that he's the same old Donald Trump, that he's learned nothing, that he's not bending or breaking one bit. And he has literally talked Kamala Harris into running neck and neck with him in the polls just like that, Just like that, I believe that this man at that time had the election locked and oh and since that time. He has absolutely positively blown it. I believe if he loses this election, because he still could win. Please don't get me wrong. I'm not saying he can't win. It's a tight race. It's gonna come down to the wire. But I believe if this man loses the race, it will go down as the greatest choke job in the history of politics. That's my perspective on this, But I don't know as much as my next guest. He is an upholster, extraordinary somebody that everybody knows because when it comes to looking at the polls, whether it's Republican or Democrat, but for the most part Republican. I if I'm mistaken, I apologize, sir, but that is his reputation. He is on top of these elections day in, day out, night in, night out. This is what he does. He is arguably the most renowned in the business when it comes to this. I'm talking about the one and only Frank Luntz, who is on the show with yours truly right now, what's up, my man? How are you? How's everything?

That's up to her, Good Lord of mercy, how embarrassing. All you have to say in the situation like that is that one minute she's trying to cater to one constituency, another minute she's trying to cater to the next. But he isn't the most articulate person in the world at times. And it came across that way last night. Did you see how skillfully she would slide in and give remarks and that she slide out and just let him talk? What are the things that they talked about during the campaign in twenty twenty when Biden was going to go up against them, They said the right was saying, let Biden talk, he'll slip up. Biden said, nah, we were employing the strength same strategy, let him talk, he'll slip up, And that is what Kamala Harris executed last night. There is no way around this, Okay, So we watching here and I'm just reading for the Wall Street Journal, by the way, who's prone to lean right, But certainly I love their paper. They have a lot of objective material up in there. They called it like they saw it. Mister Trump went on to say that the FBI crime statistics are fraud, and the Bureau of Labor statistic job numbers are a fraud. And the twenty twenty election was, yes, still a fraud, and they should have sent it back to the legislatures. About the January twenty sixth, twenty twenty one ride at the US Capitol, he regretted nothing. Then world War three again? What if this is supposed to reassure suburban nights to worry that mister Trump is too erratic to put back in the Oval office. That is the strategy that Kamala Harris exercised. She took him to school. And I'm gonna tell you something right now. I'm gonna say it right now, what we are witnessing before our very eyes may be the biggest choke job in political history. Somebody needs to say it. So I'm gonna say it, the biggest choke job in political history. And here's why. When Donald Trump, when there was an attempted assassination on the life of Donald Trump, remember what happened. Something hits his ear, he touches his ear, he goes down. Secret Service piles on top of him to secure him. Once that happens, he gets up. He's got blood streaming down the right side of his face and his ear, at which time he then gets up, surrounded by Secret Service, raises his fist in the ear and pumps it. Fight. Fight, Fight, with the American flag draped behind him. You couldn't buy a more perfect moment, a more perfect scene for a politician in the history of this country. And that when that happened, all he had to do was shut up, let his surrogate speak for him. And instead, all he has continued to do is show that he's the same old Donald Trump, that he's learned nothing, that he's not bending or breaking one bit. And he has literally talked Kamala Harris into running neck and neck with him in the polls just like that, Just like that, I believe that this man at that time had the election locked and oh and since that time. He has absolutely positively blown it. I believe if he loses this election, because he still could win. Please don't get me wrong. I'm not saying he can't win. It's a tight race. It's gonna come down to the wire. But I believe if this man loses the race, it will go down as the greatest choke job in the history of politics. That's my perspective on this, But I don't know as much as my next guest. He is an upholster, extraordinary somebody that everybody knows because when it comes to looking at the polls, whether it's Republican or Democrat, but for the most part Republican. I if I'm mistaken, I apologize, sir, but that is his reputation. He is on top of these elections day in, day out, night in, night out. This is what he does. He is arguably the most renowned in the business when it comes to this. I'm talking about the one and only Frank Luntz, who is on the show with yours truly right now, what's up, my man? How are you? How's everything?

I can't believe I'm doing this with you. I can't. So we know each other a little bit.

I can't believe I'm doing this with you. I can't. So we know each other a little bit.

You and I probably spent three or four times together in the last fifteen twenty years.

You and I probably spent three or four times together in the last fifteen twenty years.

The fact that I'm on your show is remarkable to me.

The fact that I'm on your show is remarkable to me.

I want you to know that you and Chris Cuomo have the most amazing chemistry and you're at the top of your game. And I want all your listeners and your viewers to know this. We worked for ESPN several years ago, and no sports journalist ever tested as well as you did in your commentaries. Whether people agree and disagree, they love your attitude, they love your approach, and they think you are awesome what you do. So thanks for including me. And hopefully the signal I'm at west Point doesn't have the best signal of the world. Hopefully it's good enough that I can communicate with you and your listeners.

I want you to know that you and Chris Cuomo have the most amazing chemistry and you're at the top of your game. And I want all your listeners and your viewers to know this. We worked for ESPN several years ago, and no sports journalist ever tested as well as you did in your commentaries. Whether people agree and disagree, they love your attitude, they love your approach, and they think you are awesome what you do. So thanks for including me. And hopefully the signal I'm at west Point doesn't have the best signal of the world. Hopefully it's good enough that I can communicate with you and your listeners.

Thank you so much. I'm honored to get those words from you. I really really appreciated it. For the benefit of my listeners, I have agreed to come up to West Point on October twenty ninth to speak at west Point. You have invited me, and I'm going to speak. If I remember correctly, I believe it is to over seven hundred cadets. Is that correct?

Thank you so much. I'm honored to get those words from you. I really really appreciated it. For the benefit of my listeners, I have agreed to come up to West Point on October twenty ninth to speak at west Point. You have invited me, and I'm going to speak. If I remember correctly, I believe it is to over seven hundred cadets. Is that correct?

We never know.

We never know.

One can never promise exactly how many people are going to be there, because we don't know what situation we're going to be in. But you're going to actually have lunch with all four thousand of them, and you, mister Smith, have to bring them their food and clear their table.

One can never promise exactly how many people are going to be there, because we don't know what situation we're going to be in. But you're going to actually have lunch with all four thousand of them, and you, mister Smith, have to bring them their food and clear their table.

No, I will happily do so. I will happily do so. Let's get into the debate that took place last night, because it's inescapable. We have to do that. You heard what I said. I think that Kamala Harris won the debate last night. I think she came across as a bit more polished, more prepared, certainly avoided some of the issues, but it ain't her job to make sure the issues are brought up. It's the opponent's jobs to make sure that they get after her, and Trump seemed ill prepared to do so. Your overall thoughts on the performance of both well.

No, I will happily do so. I will happily do so. Let's get into the debate that took place last night, because it's inescapable. We have to do that. You heard what I said. I think that Kamala Harris won the debate last night. I think she came across as a bit more polished, more prepared, certainly avoided some of the issues, but it ain't her job to make sure the issues are brought up. It's the opponent's jobs to make sure that they get after her, and Trump seemed ill prepared to do so. Your overall thoughts on the performance of both well.

I actually think it's the responsibility of the candidates to tell us the truth, to let us know what we need to know, and it's our right to demand it from the candidates. And I have to explain to people that I'm less concerned about this election and more concerned about the next generation about how ugly min become, how partisan, how divided, polarized, and toxic. Second is I don't believe that's as much as she won last night, as Trump lost. Number one, he did not focus on the issue that mattered most, inflation, And I cannot explain why, because he was given to him several times, and every time he got a question on inflation, he answered on something else.

I actually think it's the responsibility of the candidates to tell us the truth, to let us know what we need to know, and it's our right to demand it from the candidates. And I have to explain to people that I'm less concerned about this election and more concerned about the next generation about how ugly min become, how partisan, how divided, polarized, and toxic. Second is I don't believe that's as much as she won last night, as Trump lost. Number one, he did not focus on the issue that mattered most, inflation, And I cannot explain why, because he was given to him several times, and every time he got a question on inflation, he answered on something else.

Third, he lost his composure. He looked mean, he looked angry. He never looked at her.

Third, he lost his composure. He looked mean, he looked angry. He never looked at her.

Do you realize how many women looked at him and said, you know what, that's my ex husband, that's the son that really bothers me.

Do you realize how many women looked at him and said, you know what, that's my ex husband, that's the son that really bothers me.

It makes them mad.

It makes them mad.

That you show that kind of contempt for your opponents, that you can't even look them straight in the eye. You're showing the video behind you. Watch how often here she goes, she turns.

That you show that kind of contempt for your opponents, that you can't even look them straight in the eye. You're showing the video behind you. Watch how often here she goes, she turns.

And looks at him.

And looks at him.

Because it's a sign of respect, it's a sign of human interaction.

Because it's a sign of respect, it's a sign of human interaction.

He didn't have it.

He didn't have it.

Number four, I don't know what the hell this is about eating dogs and cats. I don't understand any of that. It's what he talked about everyone's talking about today. And number five, he had a great conclusion, a great closing if you understand that these problems exist, why you've done nothing about the It's what he asked to Harris, but the other one hundred minutes it was a disaster for him.

Number four, I don't know what the hell this is about eating dogs and cats. I don't understand any of that. It's what he talked about everyone's talking about today. And number five, he had a great conclusion, a great closing if you understand that these problems exist, why you've done nothing about the It's what he asked to Harris, but the other one hundred minutes it was a disaster for him.

Now she okay.

Now she okay.

You can say that she should have been more candid. You can say that it's up to Trump to force it from her, but she should want to provide it. We need more truth in this country. We need more candor in this country. We need less politics. It's not who wins and who loses, but it actually is, to some degree, how we play the game that matters. This isn't entertainment, this isn't sports.

You can say that she should have been more candid. You can say that it's up to Trump to force it from her, but she should want to provide it. We need more truth in this country. We need more candor in this country. We need less politics. It's not who wins and who loses, but it actually is, to some degree, how we play the game that matters. This isn't entertainment, this isn't sports.

Right, you can do that, but Frank, allow me to interject. I get that, and I totally agree with you for I benefit. But if you're trying to win the election and inflation is a huge problem and you don't necessarily have a potent enough argument to offset what he might throw at you, I'm not gonna knock her for not inviting the subject or trying to be evasive with it. If you've got a border issue and it's ten and a half million immigrants crossing the borders illegally, and you know that can cost you votes with independent I'm not going to get on her for trying to evade the subject. If he is not adroit enough to bring it up and to address her and attack her cogingly on the subject, that's his problem. One could easily argue, wouldn't you.

Right, you can do that, but Frank, allow me to interject. I get that, and I totally agree with you for I benefit. But if you're trying to win the election and inflation is a huge problem and you don't necessarily have a potent enough argument to offset what he might throw at you, I'm not gonna knock her for not inviting the subject or trying to be evasive with it. If you've got a border issue and it's ten and a half million immigrants crossing the borders illegally, and you know that can cost you votes with independent I'm not going to get on her for trying to evade the subject. If he is not adroit enough to bring it up and to address her and attack her cogingly on the subject, that's his problem. One could easily argue, wouldn't you.

Say, I, yes, this is problem, but it's our problem because in the end, she's gonna win, and in the end we have to deal with whatever she says. Whatever she does is going to affect us. So I'd rather have people up there who tell the truth. And I'm going to relate this to you. You've never held back in your career, even in times when if I were advising, I would have said, don't deal with that issue.

Say, I, yes, this is problem, but it's our problem because in the end, she's gonna win, and in the end we have to deal with whatever she says. Whatever she does is going to affect us. So I'd rather have people up there who tell the truth. And I'm going to relate this to you. You've never held back in your career, even in times when if I were advising, I would have said, don't deal with that issue.

Say it that way, your truth teller.

Say it that way, your truth teller.

Your attitude is exactly what I wish we had in politics, which is people said what they meant, meant what they said, and then did what they said. And that has not been happening in American politics. She's an example of this. I thought last night she beat him, but in the end it was not good for anybody, and the real loser last night was America.

Your attitude is exactly what I wish we had in politics, which is people said what they meant, meant what they said, and then did what they said. And that has not been happening in American politics. She's an example of this. I thought last night she beat him, but in the end it was not good for anybody, and the real loser last night was America.

You know, I'm not gonna visit that subject too much in terms of what you said about me. Because you've asked me, have I thought about running for office, and along with a whole bunch of other people over the last year, it ain't happening. I'm not running for office. I'm not gonna do that. But you did. Let me go back to you because something you was quoted to say, and I think you tweeted this that Trump was about Trump blowing the election. You've never seen anyone that has done so much to blow in selection. It falls in line what I've indicated that I think is gonna be good. It's gonna go down as the biggest choke job in political history. What do you say to that? Explain?

You know, I'm not gonna visit that subject too much in terms of what you said about me. Because you've asked me, have I thought about running for office, and along with a whole bunch of other people over the last year, it ain't happening. I'm not running for office. I'm not gonna do that. But you did. Let me go back to you because something you was quoted to say, and I think you tweeted this that Trump was about Trump blowing the election. You've never seen anyone that has done so much to blow in selection. It falls in line what I've indicated that I think is gonna be good. It's gonna go down as the biggest choke job in political history. What do you say to that? Explain?

It's very easy.

It's very easy.

And there are two tweets I said, I was tweeting all through the debate last night, and there are two tweets that I'll raise with you on this show. One when I was critical of him and his people went crazy on me, and one when I was critical of Harris and her people went crazy on me. In his case, if you want to have that comparison, that side by side comparison, which he did on inflation and immigration, then you have to draw. You have to give the numbers, and you have to explain why it happened, and what your solutions are. And he couldn't wait to get off of inflation to talk about anything but inflation.

And there are two tweets I said, I was tweeting all through the debate last night, and there are two tweets that I'll raise with you on this show. One when I was critical of him and his people went crazy on me, and one when I was critical of Harris and her people went crazy on me. In his case, if you want to have that comparison, that side by side comparison, which he did on inflation and immigration, then you have to draw. You have to give the numbers, and you have to explain why it happened, and what your solutions are. And he couldn't wait to get off of inflation to talk about anything but inflation.

And it's so easy, Stephen.

And it's so easy, Stephen.

It's food and fuel, housing and healthcare F squared, H squared, and it affects people in their day to day lives and affects their long term quality of life. As far as immigration, it's not just about what's happening at the border. It's safety and security and doing those things to make the country strong. He can show easily that the decisions of the Biden Harris campaign made things worse for Americans at the.

It's food and fuel, housing and healthcare F squared, H squared, and it affects people in their day to day lives and affects their long term quality of life. As far as immigration, it's not just about what's happening at the border. It's safety and security and doing those things to make the country strong. He can show easily that the decisions of the Biden Harris campaign made things worse for Americans at the.

Border and across the country.

Border and across the country.

I also want to address the tweet that I said about her, to know that it's blown up. Why I criticize the facial questions, don't do it there, you go, don't do it. People saw it as acting, they saw it as fake. She's raising legitimate points, but it's hurting her credibility and it did fit into female sterois. People went nuts on me for saying this.

I also want to address the tweet that I said about her, to know that it's blown up. Why I criticize the facial questions, don't do it there, you go, don't do it. People saw it as acting, they saw it as fake. She's raising legitimate points, but it's hurting her credibility and it did fit into female sterois. People went nuts on me for saying this.

This is the.

This is the.

Truth that she undercut her message, But for some reason I'm not allowed to bring it up because I can criticize him for his behavior, and that's Okay, I can't criticize her for doing the same thing. I'm a debate coach, I am an expert of body language. These are things that I've been studying for.

Truth that she undercut her message, But for some reason I'm not allowed to bring it up because I can criticize him for his behavior, and that's Okay, I can't criticize her for doing the same thing. I'm a debate coach, I am an expert of body language. These are things that I've been studying for.

Forty years now. And she under look at that.

Forty years now. And she under look at that.

Look who sits that way, who puts their hand like that underneath I don't know if you edited this just for this program, but it was constant and the publics because I'm watching him with over two hundred people, and they're booing her for this.

Look who sits that way, who puts their hand like that underneath I don't know if you edited this just for this program, but it was constant and the publics because I'm watching him with over two hundred people, and they're booing her for this.

They thought she had a better communication.

They thought she had a better communication.

They thought she gave better messaging, but they thought that the facial expressions undermine her credibility.

They thought she gave better messaging, but they thought that the facial expressions undermine her credibility.

But frank, real quickly, when you say you were sitting with two hundred people, how many of them were conservatives lash Republicans, how many of them were liberals lash progressives, How many of them were independents?

But frank, real quickly, when you say you were sitting with two hundred people, how many of them were conservatives lash Republicans, how many of them were liberals lash progressives, How many of them were independents?

It was everyone. It was everyone left, center right, It was the entire gambit of politics. And I went emphasize these people thought she won the debate, but they thought that she undercut her messaging with that with facial acting is what they said.

It was everyone. It was everyone left, center right, It was the entire gambit of politics. And I went emphasize these people thought she won the debate, but they thought that she undercut her messaging with that with facial acting is what they said.

Now, But what if she's able to make the argument that I was sitting like this and I was laughing and what have you. Because by mocking him seemingly, I knew it would agitate him, which ultimately lit itself towards me winning the debate because I got him off key, I got him off message, and that was the objective of it. One could easily argue that point.

Now, But what if she's able to make the argument that I was sitting like this and I was laughing and what have you. Because by mocking him seemingly, I knew it would agitate him, which ultimately lit itself towards me winning the debate because I got him off key, I got him off message, and that was the objective of it. One could easily argue that point.

Frank, Yes they could.

Frank, Yes they could.

But they're agitating Trump and at the same time they're agitating the millions and tens of millions of people watching the debate. So you agitated the candidate who you're running against, what you're agitating the people who support you. Look, we all do it. You do it with your voice, I do it with my hands. We all do it, or we're not all running for president. And in the end, often nicity, genuineness, candor is what the public is looking for, not an actor.

But they're agitating Trump and at the same time they're agitating the millions and tens of millions of people watching the debate. So you agitated the candidate who you're running against, what you're agitating the people who support you. Look, we all do it. You do it with your voice, I do it with my hands. We all do it, or we're not all running for president. And in the end, often nicity, genuineness, candor is what the public is looking for, not an actor.

Two more questions before I'll let you get on out of here. Number One, A lot of people out there are saying that it was three against one, that they were that the moderators were all over him, but they let her off the hook. I just felt it was her agitating him, and they were flowing with that. But nevertheless, I know that the right is going to have a different opinion than the left, and I get that. What was your take on that.

Two more questions before I'll let you get on out of here. Number One, A lot of people out there are saying that it was three against one, that they were that the moderators were all over him, but they let her off the hook. I just felt it was her agitating him, and they were flowing with that. But nevertheless, I know that the right is going to have a different opinion than the left, and I get that. What was your take on that.

I wondered how many times they fact checked him, which is very legitimate, But they should have done the same thing with her.

I wondered how many times they fact checked him, which is very legitimate, But they should have done the same thing with her.

I thought it would have been the outcome would have been the perception of.

I thought it would have been the outcome would have been the perception of.

A more balanced the debate. Now, he did get six extra minutes in her, So if you're saying that this whole thing was set up to make him look bad and make her look good, they gave him six extra minutes. Here's the problem. The more he spoke, the worse he got. He should speak less and Harris should speak more. The only time that we've ever had in modern politics where candidate actually did damage by talking more with Sarah Palin running for vice president under John McCain in twenty twelve, Yeah, sorry, in twenty eight the more she spoke, the worse he got for her.

A more balanced the debate. Now, he did get six extra minutes in her, So if you're saying that this whole thing was set up to make him look bad and make her look good, they gave him six extra minutes. Here's the problem. The more he spoke, the worse he got. He should speak less and Harris should speak more. The only time that we've ever had in modern politics where candidate actually did damage by talking more with Sarah Palin running for vice president under John McCain in twenty twelve, Yeah, sorry, in twenty eight the more she spoke, the worse he got for her.

Last question to you, does Trump need another debate or should he avoid it and just march to the election, have his rallies, let her have her rallies, and let the American people decide that way. What is your suggestion? Who needs what?

Last question to you, does Trump need another debate or should he avoid it and just march to the election, have his rallies, let her have her rallies, and let the American people decide that way. What is your suggestion? Who needs what?

Did you utile decisions based on side by side comparisons, and you notice the split screen during the entire debate side by side is his only opportunity to take her on. But frankly, if I'm her campaign and he's already said that he won't accept the Fox News hosts, I'm going to say, you know what, we offered it to them. He didn't want to do it. Fine, you'll go his way, we'll go our way, and we'll go right through election day and then she wins. He needs to get on his knees and beg for another debate, and guess what, he ain't gonna do it because Donald Trump doesn't beg, he doesn't admit mistakes, he has no humility, and all of these are gonna hurt him come election day.

Did you utile decisions based on side by side comparisons, and you notice the split screen during the entire debate side by side is his only opportunity to take her on. But frankly, if I'm her campaign and he's already said that he won't accept the Fox News hosts, I'm going to say, you know what, we offered it to them. He didn't want to do it. Fine, you'll go his way, we'll go our way, and we'll go right through election day and then she wins. He needs to get on his knees and beg for another debate, and guess what, he ain't gonna do it because Donald Trump doesn't beg, he doesn't admit mistakes, he has no humility, and all of these are gonna hurt him come election day.

So you think that Kamala Harris is gonna win the election, if you had to guess today, you'd say she's gonna win today.

So you think that Kamala Harris is gonna win the election, if you had to guess today, you'd say she's gonna win today.

And you emphasize the point today, As of today, Harris is the next president. She will need a slip up. Trump cannot do it alone. Harris will have to say something, something very upsetting to a large number of people for her to lose at this point. Is it possible? Absolutely? Is it likely?

And you emphasize the point today, As of today, Harris is the next president. She will need a slip up. Trump cannot do it alone. Harris will have to say something, something very upsetting to a large number of people for her to lose at this point. Is it possible? Absolutely? Is it likely?

No polls to EXTRAORDINAYD one and only Frank once right here, right on the steven A Smithchell for the very first time. I appreciate you, my man. Thank you so much. You know I'll be calling you as this election draws. Appreciate you so much. Thank you, my man. Take care of yourself.

No polls to EXTRAORDINAYD one and only Frank once right here, right on the steven A Smithchell for the very first time. I appreciate you, my man. Thank you so much. You know I'll be calling you as this election draws. Appreciate you so much. Thank you, my man. Take care of yourself.

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And he's going really good?

And he's going really good?

When you're this close to a fight, you're this healthy it's just it's hard to believe it's true, but it is true.

When you're this close to a fight, you're this healthy it's just it's hard to believe it's true, but it is true.

It's happening. Feel good. I'm excited, ready to go.

It's happening. Feel good. I'm excited, ready to go.

Now tell me this. How the hell are you feeling so good and so healthy when you're training? You're putting yourself through the riggers and all of this other stuff just from a physical perspective, Because you got a lot of folks out there. They getting the gym, they feel a little bit of pain, ain't in any kind of shape whatsoever, And the next thing you know, they're feeling worse than they did before. How do you feel better when you put your body through the riggers that you put yourself through to prepare yourself for championship matchups?

Now tell me this. How the hell are you feeling so good and so healthy when you're training? You're putting yourself through the riggers and all of this other stuff just from a physical perspective, Because you got a lot of folks out there. They getting the gym, they feel a little bit of pain, ain't in any kind of shape whatsoever, And the next thing you know, they're feeling worse than they did before. How do you feel better when you put your body through the riggers that you put yourself through to prepare yourself for championship matchups?

Our bodies adapt very well.

Our bodies adapt very well.

And it's been twelve weeks of eating perfect, sleeping perfect, training very hard, but most importantly, training very smart. So you know, I'm a vet in this sport. I've been doing it for a long time and I've learned a lot. Each fight camp I learned something new and I implement it into this fight camp. And I'm chasing greatness right now, so I have to mark all the boxes.

And it's been twelve weeks of eating perfect, sleeping perfect, training very hard, but most importantly, training very smart. So you know, I'm a vet in this sport. I've been doing it for a long time and I've learned a lot. Each fight camp I learned something new and I implement it into this fight camp. And I'm chasing greatness right now, so I have to mark all the boxes.

Got you you know what you're gonna make history is the first person to fight at the Sphere taking on Morob. Give us develised Villi. I believe that develis Villi is. I think that's how you pronounce his name. All right, how did that happen? How did this fight happen?

Got you you know what you're gonna make history is the first person to fight at the Sphere taking on Morob. Give us develised Villi. I believe that develis Villi is. I think that's how you pronounce his name. All right, how did that happen? How did this fight happen?

Well, Marob's gonna can fight win stream. He's ranked number one, He's been ranked number one for a very long time. Al Jamine Sterling was his training partner and best friend. So al Jamie was Sterling with the champ and uh, I had I had to mix that up. I had to get in there knock al Jamine Sterling out cold, drop hammer fist on his head.

Well, Marob's gonna can fight win stream. He's ranked number one, He's been ranked number one for a very long time. Al Jamine Sterling was his training partner and best friend. So al Jamie was Sterling with the champ and uh, I had I had to mix that up. I had to get in there knock al Jamine Sterling out cold, drop hammer fist on his head.

Uh.

Uh.

And then Rob wasn't next to going and uh take care of some business. Had to go whoop Cheeto's ass in Miami for a little bit, and now here we are. It's the fight that makes the most sense, the Sugar Show versus Brob at the Sphere.

And then Rob wasn't next to going and uh take care of some business. Had to go whoop Cheeto's ass in Miami for a little bit, and now here we are. It's the fight that makes the most sense, the Sugar Show versus Brob at the Sphere.

It's gonna be epic.

It's gonna be epic.

I want to know what your mentality. See, this is what I like about you as well. Yeah, you talk, but you back it up. That's all I give it damn about you back it up, you handle your business. But what I really like about you is that you never get the oppression, and maybe sometimes we attribute it to Dana White and how he runs the UFC, and but I give you fighters credit. I love when I see champions not running from anybody, not procrastinate, not hesitating, or anything like that. They've been talking about Marab for the longest time and now over the last two years, to be specific about how he's that dude outside of you. How bad did you want this fight? How hard was it to happen?

I want to know what your mentality. See, this is what I like about you as well. Yeah, you talk, but you back it up. That's all I give it damn about you back it up, you handle your business. But what I really like about you is that you never get the oppression, and maybe sometimes we attribute it to Dana White and how he runs the UFC, and but I give you fighters credit. I love when I see champions not running from anybody, not procrastinate, not hesitating, or anything like that. They've been talking about Marab for the longest time and now over the last two years, to be specific about how he's that dude outside of you. How bad did you want this fight? How hard was it to happen?

The fight was very easy to happen. Morob's next. In UFC's eyes and everyone's eyes, Morob is the number one guy.

The fight was very easy to happen. Morob's next. In UFC's eyes and everyone's eyes, Morob is the number one guy.

I love this fight.

I love this fight.

I actually was calling out Eliot Taporia, who in my mind's the one forty five pound champ. Is the most one of the most scary fights for me right now, I was calling out a guy that I thought was even more scary than Morob. So people are giving me shit saying, no, we want you to fight Morob. I was like, hell, yeah, I will. If you guys want me to fight some of what I think is less of a scary fight, I'll take that all day. So the fight was very easy to come together, and Rob's getting whooped in a few days.

I actually was calling out Eliot Taporia, who in my mind's the one forty five pound champ. Is the most one of the most scary fights for me right now, I was calling out a guy that I thought was even more scary than Morob. So people are giving me shit saying, no, we want you to fight Morob. I was like, hell, yeah, I will. If you guys want me to fight some of what I think is less of a scary fight, I'll take that all day. So the fight was very easy to come together, and Rob's getting whooped in a few days.

When they talk about Morob they talk about two things. Number one is wrestling ability. Number two, how his conditioning is just as an at an elite level. The motor never stops turning, never stops moving. This guy's got energy all day, every day, et cetera, et cetera. And with you, they just say, you know, he's spectacular, he's a knockout artist, he's box office. But going up against a wrestler, any concern for you in that regard? Somebody that would prefer to grapple as opposed to stay there and try to engage in a striking contest against you.

When they talk about Morob they talk about two things. Number one is wrestling ability. Number two, how his conditioning is just as an at an elite level. The motor never stops turning, never stops moving. This guy's got energy all day, every day, et cetera, et cetera. And with you, they just say, you know, he's spectacular, he's a knockout artist, he's box office. But going up against a wrestler, any concern for you in that regard? Somebody that would prefer to grapple as opposed to stay there and try to engage in a striking contest against you.

I would prefer to fight someone whose skull and the only way to beat me is to take me down. That is going to be his downfall. That is how he's going to get knocked out. It doesn't matter how good is Cardio is when he's sleeping.

I would prefer to fight someone whose skull and the only way to beat me is to take me down. That is going to be his downfall. That is how he's going to get knocked out. It doesn't matter how good is Cardio is when he's sleeping.

Just that simple, right, Just that simple. So let me ask you this, when you look at him as a fighter, what do you think of him? Break it down for those of us who don't know much about it, haven't seen much from him. Break down his skill set and what you think he brings to the table, and why we should be excited about this fight, considering the fact that he's going up against the magnificent sugar Sean O'Malley.

Just that simple, right, Just that simple. So let me ask you this, when you look at him as a fighter, what do you think of him? Break it down for those of us who don't know much about it, haven't seen much from him. Break down his skill set and what you think he brings to the table, and why we should be excited about this fight, considering the fact that he's going up against the magnificent sugar Sean O'Malley.

I'll break down of the peards. First, short, five to four, ugly, huge nose, just a weird head, very big head, very big nose, just a very ugly guy.

I'll break down of the peards. First, short, five to four, ugly, huge nose, just a weird head, very big head, very big nose, just a very ugly guy.

Skill set wise, very dangerous. Like you.

Skill set wise, very dangerous. Like you.

I mean we mentioned before it is Cardio is well, it's crazy.

I mean we mentioned before it is Cardio is well, it's crazy.

You called him the machine for a reason. He's got very very good wrestling.

You called him the machine for a reason. He's got very very good wrestling.

He's good at wrestling in the punches back into wrestling, and that is what makes him dangerous.

He's good at wrestling in the punches back into wrestling, and that is what makes him dangerous.

He's very durable.

He's very durable.

There's been fights he got cliffs that comes back and just wins the round.

There's been fights he got cliffs that comes back and just wins the round.

He's a very dangerous opponent.

He's a very dangerous opponent.

And you know, the more dangerous the guy standing across from me, the better I perform.

And you know, the more dangerous the guy standing across from me, the better I perform.

I'm here for it.

I'm here for it.

You've avenged the lone loss in your career. He has four losses on his resume. When you've seen I'm imagining that you've seen his fights, particularly the fights that he's lost. What's his weaknesses? What are the kind of weaknesses that he has that you believe is going to be relatively easy for you to exploit?

You've avenged the lone loss in your career. He has four losses on his resume. When you've seen I'm imagining that you've seen his fights, particularly the fights that he's lost. What's his weaknesses? What are the kind of weaknesses that he has that you believe is going to be relatively easy for you to exploit?

I mean, yeah, like I said, it's on ten fight win streaks, so those losses were quite a while ago.

I mean, yeah, like I said, it's on ten fight win streaks, so those losses were quite a while ago.

Years and years and years ago.

Years and years and years ago.

But I believe if I am faster than the opponent, I will knock them out Eventually.

But I believe if I am faster than the opponent, I will knock them out Eventually.

I didn't. I didn't get a knockout on my last fight against Cito.

I didn't. I didn't get a knockout on my last fight against Cito.

I hit him with some serious shots that did a lot of damage. I wasn't able to get him out of there. But I do believe I will get Morob out of there. I don't think he has the durability of Cheeto, and I'm gonna I'm gonna make sure I get him out of there.

I hit him with some serious shots that did a lot of damage. I wasn't able to get him out of there. But I do believe I will get Morob out of there. I don't think he has the durability of Cheeto, and I'm gonna I'm gonna make sure I get him out of there.

You know, I'm gonna do what I do and get it done too. I think I'm gonna get him out of there.

You know, I'm gonna do what I do and get it done too. I think I'm gonna get him out of there.

This isn't the.

This isn't the.

First time I've interviewed you, but every time I've interviewed you, you remind me of your love for boxing and how you watch the sport. You know a little thing, You're doing thing or two about the sport. Canilo Alvarez is gonna be fighting Edgar Berlanga at the T Mobile Arena on the same night. Why should fans tune in or come to see you fight in Vegas instead of the great Canilo Alvaretz.

First time I've interviewed you, but every time I've interviewed you, you remind me of your love for boxing and how you watch the sport. You know a little thing, You're doing thing or two about the sport. Canilo Alvarez is gonna be fighting Edgar Berlanga at the T Mobile Arena on the same night. Why should fans tune in or come to see you fight in Vegas instead of the great Canilo Alvaretz.

Edward Bolaga, who I have never heard of that guy.

Edward Bolaga, who I have never heard of that guy.

To be honest, I don't I'd like it.

To be honest, I don't I'd like it.

It's a friendly competition. It's across the street.

It's a friendly competition. It's across the street.

Canelo Alvarez, pound for pound, probably the best boxer in the world right now. I'm actually a massive fan. I've been throwing a little shade, but it's not you know, it's not personal. I'm a huge fan of Cadelo, but I mean, I just feel like it's a very I see on the boxers on Twitter saying that the UFC is fucked because the boxing is going on the same day. I don't think that's the case. I think UFC is going to get more views. And I promise you Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, the rest of that week they will be talking about the Sugar show. They will not be talking about the thirty six minute boxing match that went on at T Mobile. That'll be talking about how crazy the spear was, how mind blown it was. You weren't there, I cannot believe you missed it.