I told you all this wasn't going away. I told you this wasn't going away.

I told you all this wasn't going away. I told you this wasn't going away.

I got it.

I got it.

You know you don't want to get into stuff like this, but you can't help it because you see the.

You know you don't want to get into stuff like this, but you can't help it because you see the.

Trouble down the road. I said it two days ago and I'm gonna say it again. P Diddy's in a world the trouble.

Trouble down the road. I said it two days ago and I'm gonna say it again. P Diddy's in a world the trouble.

Just look at what has happened since the last time you heard me speak on this a couple of days ago.

Just look at what has happened since the last time you heard me speak on this a couple of days ago.

The stephen A. Smith Show in the House coming at you right now You're about to hear more. How at you? Boy? What's up? Everybody? Welcome to the latest edition of The stephen A. Smith Show, Coming at you.

The stephen A. Smith Show in the House coming at you right now You're about to hear more. How at you? Boy? What's up? Everybody? Welcome to the latest edition of The stephen A. Smith Show, Coming at you.

As I love to do over the digital airways of YouTube, and of course iHeartRadio. Want to take a moment to thank my subscribers. As always, we now eclipsed over eight hundred and six thousand subscribers. Can't thank y'all enough for the love and support that you're giving me on YouTube, not to mention the nearly three million downloads we've had over the last few weeks on iHeartRadio. Can't thank y'all enough. Keep the love coming, and I'm gonna keep on coming. Let me get right started. Let me get started right now. Rather because it's necessary, I'm gonna start with the news that shoo up the entertainment industry this week, the arrest and detainment of music mogul Sewan P. Diddy Combes. On Tuesday, the federal government, more specifically the Southern District of New York unsealed a fourteen page document charging cones with racketeering, conspiracy, sex trafficking by force, fraud and coercion, and transportation to engage in prostitution. If convicted on any or all of the chargers, P Diddy could be spending the rest of his life in federal prison. He's currently locked up in the same federal jail that once housed R.

As I love to do over the digital airways of YouTube, and of course iHeartRadio. Want to take a moment to thank my subscribers. As always, we now eclipsed over eight hundred and six thousand subscribers. Can't thank y'all enough for the love and support that you're giving me on YouTube, not to mention the nearly three million downloads we've had over the last few weeks on iHeartRadio. Can't thank y'all enough. Keep the love coming, and I'm gonna keep on coming. Let me get right started. Let me get started right now. Rather because it's necessary, I'm gonna start with the news that shoo up the entertainment industry this week, the arrest and detainment of music mogul Sewan P. Diddy Combes. On Tuesday, the federal government, more specifically the Southern District of New York unsealed a fourteen page document charging cones with racketeering, conspiracy, sex trafficking by force, fraud and coercion, and transportation to engage in prostitution. If convicted on any or all of the chargers, P Diddy could be spending the rest of his life in federal prison. He's currently locked up in the same federal jail that once housed R.

Kelly during his trial.

Kelly during his trial.

Combs appeared in court Tuesday and pleaded not guilty to.

Combs appeared in court Tuesday and pleaded not guilty to.

All of the charges.

All of the charges.

However, the judge denied his bill, which means this week may very well be his last as a free man. Here's the bottom line. The story's not going away. I'm just reading some of the commons, y'all, and I just want y'all to know I keep telling y'all the biggest story in all of this, my personal opinion, and this is just an opinion. I'm deducing points and facts. Here is here and there. Yes, he's a big enough name to go after with these charges that have been leveled against them, no doubt about it, federal charges of racketeering, conspiracy, sex trafficking by force, fraud and coercion, transportation and engaging prostitution, etca. Saying those are very serious charges. And he's a big enough name. He's worth of a four hundred million dollars. He's a public figure, very high profile.

However, the judge denied his bill, which means this week may very well be his last as a free man. Here's the bottom line. The story's not going away. I'm just reading some of the commons, y'all, and I just want y'all to know I keep telling y'all the biggest story in all of this, my personal opinion, and this is just an opinion. I'm deducing points and facts. Here is here and there. Yes, he's a big enough name to go after with these charges that have been leveled against them, no doubt about it, federal charges of racketeering, conspiracy, sex trafficking by force, fraud and coercion, transportation and engaging prostitution, etca. Saying those are very serious charges. And he's a big enough name. He's worth of a four hundred million dollars. He's a public figure, very high profile.

Yes, that's a big enough name.

Yes, that's a big enough name.

I don't believe all of this is happening because it's just Sean P.

I don't believe all of this is happening because it's just Sean P.

Diddy Cones.

Diddy Cones.

Thereafter, I believe thereafter others well, And just like I learned from the Mission Impossible, the first one when those guys that were chasing Ethan Hunt aka Tom Curuz was saying, this is not complicated. You find somebody's sore spot and you squeeze, you squeeze.

Thereafter, I believe thereafter others well, And just like I learned from the Mission Impossible, the first one when those guys that were chasing Ethan Hunt aka Tom Curuz was saying, this is not complicated. You find somebody's sore spot and you squeeze, you squeeze.

Sean P.

Sean P.

Diddy Coles knowing he's a public figure, knowing the connections that he had, knowing that he wasn't in this alone. Assuming they're right with the charges and allegations that they've leveled against.

Diddy Coles knowing he's a public figure, knowing the connections that he had, knowing that he wasn't in this alone. Assuming they're right with the charges and allegations that they've leveled against.

Them to get others.

Them to get others.

You went after Jeffrey Empstein, you went after Harvey Weinstein.

You went after Jeffrey Empstein, you went after Harvey Weinstein.

Who else are you after? You're trying to get everybody? And that's what I think this is about.

Who else are you after? You're trying to get everybody? And that's what I think this is about.

And I'm just reading from some of these stories because I think it's.

And I'm just reading from some of these stories because I think it's.

Important to point this out.

Important to point this out.

When you highlight and you talk about some of the charges that have been leveled against him, and you see some of the stuff that's being said about.

When you highlight and you talk about some of the charges that have been leveled against him, and you see some of the stuff that's being said about.

Them, Look at this right here.

Them, Look at this right here.

Dannity Kane, singer Aubrey O'Day writes, I never thought I would see this day, she told TMZ.

Dannity Kane, singer Aubrey O'Day writes, I never thought I would see this day, she told TMZ.

We all buried.

We all buried.

This inside of us in order to be able to keep going, and not just me, but victims.

This inside of us in order to be able to keep going, and not just me, but victims.

You don't even know yet.

You don't even know yet.

We're all processing what that type of vindication can actually feel like.

We're all processing what that type of vindication can actually feel like.

Now.

Now.

Every conversation I've had with victims last night has been beyond moving on all levels. That was Aubrey o Day. You know, fifty Cent was gonna make sure his voice was heard. Clown and P Diddy taunting him basically because he's long taunted P Diddy for years over the harrowing allegations against him.

Every conversation I've had with victims last night has been beyond moving on all levels. That was Aubrey o Day. You know, fifty Cent was gonna make sure his voice was heard. Clown and P Diddy taunting him basically because he's long taunted P Diddy for years over the harrowing allegations against him.

And what does he say here? This is yesterday fifty.

And what does he say here? This is yesterday fifty.

Cent here, I am keeping good company with the Drew Barrymore TV show, and I don't have one thousand bottles.

Cent here, I am keeping good company with the Drew Barrymore TV show, and I don't have one thousand bottles.

Of lube at the house.

Of lube at the house.

C was referencing the over one thousand bottles of baby oil and personal lubricants for the Freakoffs that the indictment revealed were allegedly found during the raid of Ditty's homes in Los Angeles and Miami back in March. Of course, Foxy Brown had something to say, Shit's about to really get crazy. And obviously the breakfast Clubs the one and only Charlemagne of God, because remember this show was carried on Revote TV that was.

C was referencing the over one thousand bottles of baby oil and personal lubricants for the Freakoffs that the indictment revealed were allegedly found during the raid of Ditty's homes in Los Angeles and Miami back in March. Of course, Foxy Brown had something to say, Shit's about to really get crazy. And obviously the breakfast Clubs the one and only Charlemagne of God, because remember this show was carried on Revote TV that was.

Once owned by P Diddy, And what did he post?

Once owned by P Diddy, And what did he post?

He said, if Diddy gets racketeering and sex trafficking charges for Freakoffs, there will definitely be others involved. And of course the United States attorney said, we're not done. This investigation is ongoing. They're going after more than P Diddy. And by the way, one of the attorneys came out because they're disgusted by what's happening. From an article here on Yahoo, the arrest of music Mogul showan P. Diddy coons is not about the one thousand bottles of baby oil in lube discovered during the March raids on his Los Angeles and Miami properties. It's about allegations of coordinating and documented physical and sexual abuse. It's not about the sickly the slickly named freak off parties. It's about a legised, systemic coercion, threats and trafficking of multiple women over many, many years. It's not even about Ditty, or at least not just Ditty. It's about the hundreds of people who enabled him, the thousands who turned a blind eye, and the culture that once again allowed the brutal treatment of women and men to remain an open secret for years as long as the perpetrator is rich, famous and powerful enough.

He said, if Diddy gets racketeering and sex trafficking charges for Freakoffs, there will definitely be others involved. And of course the United States attorney said, we're not done. This investigation is ongoing. They're going after more than P Diddy. And by the way, one of the attorneys came out because they're disgusted by what's happening. From an article here on Yahoo, the arrest of music Mogul showan P. Diddy coons is not about the one thousand bottles of baby oil in lube discovered during the March raids on his Los Angeles and Miami properties. It's about allegations of coordinating and documented physical and sexual abuse. It's not about the sickly the slickly named freak off parties. It's about a legised, systemic coercion, threats and trafficking of multiple women over many, many years. It's not even about Ditty, or at least not just Ditty. It's about the hundreds of people who enabled him, the thousands who turned a blind eye, and the culture that once again allowed the brutal treatment of women and men to remain an open secret for years as long as the perpetrator is rich, famous and powerful enough.

But let's stop. Let's stop with the lube jokes.

But let's stop. Let's stop with the lube jokes.

That was what a column in the Los Angeles Times articulated. Everybody's in on it. This is not going away. They're trying to find out all culprits involved.

That was what a column in the Los Angeles Times articulated. Everybody's in on it. This is not going away. They're trying to find out all culprits involved.

And it ain't just.

And it ain't just.

People who were employed under Bad Boy Entertainment or any of any more of Sean P. Diddy Combs's enterprises. They're trying to get everybody. You got music detecatives toil into the Daily Mail. You got music executives that have been put on notice to have contingency plans in case their names are implicated. This is not going away, ladies and gentlemen, This is not going away. And if you love yourself some Sean P. Diddy Combes and you find yourself very, very scared for him, consider yourself justified. There's some local police department that's coming after them. This is some officer coming out.

People who were employed under Bad Boy Entertainment or any of any more of Sean P. Diddy Combs's enterprises. They're trying to get everybody. You got music detecatives toil into the Daily Mail. You got music executives that have been put on notice to have contingency plans in case their names are implicated. This is not going away, ladies and gentlemen, This is not going away. And if you love yourself some Sean P. Diddy Combes and you find yourself very, very scared for him, consider yourself justified. There's some local police department that's coming after them. This is some officer coming out.

This is Homeland Security. These crimes are federal. These are rico charges.

This is Homeland Security. These crimes are federal. These are rico charges.

You've had people who've been on the record saying they'd rather be charged with the murder than having rico charges leveled against them.

You've had people who've been on the record saying they'd rather be charged with the murder than having rico charges leveled against them.

That's how serious this is. And Sean P.

That's how serious this is. And Sean P.

Diddy Combes was willing to post fifty million dollar bond, and with this economy, with inflation, with the government constantly looking to get their hands on our money, they said, keep your money. Nah, we ain't accepting it. Stay your ass in jail. This is not a joke. This is some serious, serious business.

Diddy Combes was willing to post fifty million dollar bond, and with this economy, with inflation, with the government constantly looking to get their hands on our money, they said, keep your money. Nah, we ain't accepting it. Stay your ass in jail. This is not a joke. This is some serious, serious business.

They ain't even just.

They ain't even just.

Talking about his abuse, one of which was called on video when he hit his ex girlfriend or his then girlfriend.

Talking about his abuse, one of which was called on video when he hit his ex girlfriend or his then girlfriend.

Cassie Ventura.

Cassie Ventura.

This isn't even just about continuous physical abuse spanning years. In terms of the allegations and accusations that have been thrown out about him, they're calling this a criminal enterprise, which means there's a boatload of other people involved. They're using words like prostitution, essentially implying there was a prostitution ring going on. I don't know what else to say to you, y'all, other than we have to sit back and wait, and I pray that some of the people that I've seen over the years, some of the people he's done business with, some of the people were fans of I'm not gonna throw any names out there, but we all know who used to work und the Bad Boy Entertainment. We all know that he's been friends with everybody. We all know the kind of connections this man has. I am praying that this man doesn't find himself in a position where others are inevitably implicated, and we see some of the people we love the most, scars, we revered for years, producers and executives that we've known for years, implicated in all of this. Because the federal government is coming after everybody, we got to brace ourselves, y'all. We got to brace ourselves. Coming up, I'll speak to the one and only Ryan Smith about the legal road ahead for Diddy heading into his federal trial.

This isn't even just about continuous physical abuse spanning years. In terms of the allegations and accusations that have been thrown out about him, they're calling this a criminal enterprise, which means there's a boatload of other people involved. They're using words like prostitution, essentially implying there was a prostitution ring going on. I don't know what else to say to you, y'all, other than we have to sit back and wait, and I pray that some of the people that I've seen over the years, some of the people he's done business with, some of the people were fans of I'm not gonna throw any names out there, but we all know who used to work und the Bad Boy Entertainment. We all know that he's been friends with everybody. We all know the kind of connections this man has. I am praying that this man doesn't find himself in a position where others are inevitably implicated, and we see some of the people we love the most, scars, we revered for years, producers and executives that we've known for years, implicated in all of this. Because the federal government is coming after everybody, we got to brace ourselves, y'all. We got to brace ourselves. Coming up, I'll speak to the one and only Ryan Smith about the legal road ahead for Diddy heading into his federal trial.

Legal analyst Ryan.

Legal analyst Ryan.

Smith does a great, great job for ESPN and ABC over the last several years.

Smith does a great, great job for ESPN and ABC over the last several years.

I'm honored to have him on.

I'm honored to have him on.

He's up next to break all of this down for us right here on the stephen Ate Smith Show, over the digital airways of YouTube, and of course over iHeartRadio.

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Diddy.

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My colleague, my contemporary. What's up, my man? How are you? How's everything?

My colleague, my contemporary. What's up, my man? How are you? How's everything?

What's going on? Steven A good and talk to you as always, ma'am.

What's going on? Steven A good and talk to you as always, ma'am.

Thank you so much for making time out of your busy schedule. I really really appreciate it. Let's get right to it. Shawn Combs is charged with racketeering, conspiracy, sex trafficking, and then to state transportation for prostitution. The crugs that the charges are tied to freak offs coursed sex acts that.

Thank you so much for making time out of your busy schedule. I really really appreciate it. Let's get right to it. Shawn Combs is charged with racketeering, conspiracy, sex trafficking, and then to state transportation for prostitution. The crugs that the charges are tied to freak offs coursed sex acts that.

Combs allegedly orchestrated and recorded. Is that correct?

Combs allegedly orchestrated and recorded. Is that correct?

That's right, that's right. The freak coffs, as the prosecution said, and the bail here in the freak offfs are the core of this case. It all kind of revolves around that and the idea behind this. You talk about racketeering conspiracy, stephen A. That's the big one, that's the one. And you talk about the penalties here minimum fifteen years maximum life in prison. But the racketeering conspiracy is the big one because it involves Shawn Colmbs setting up business enterprises to be a record executive, to build a media empire, but also the allegation, say, conspiring with others to get together and set up a criminal enterprise, to commit criminal acts, and then to commit other acts to cover up some of those acts, all in furtherance of satisfying as sexual desires. Charges you have are spot on and these are serious charges, very hard to beat for a defense.

That's right, that's right. The freak coffs, as the prosecution said, and the bail here in the freak offfs are the core of this case. It all kind of revolves around that and the idea behind this. You talk about racketeering conspiracy, stephen A. That's the big one, that's the one. And you talk about the penalties here minimum fifteen years maximum life in prison. But the racketeering conspiracy is the big one because it involves Shawn Colmbs setting up business enterprises to be a record executive, to build a media empire, but also the allegation, say, conspiring with others to get together and set up a criminal enterprise, to commit criminal acts, and then to commit other acts to cover up some of those acts, all in furtherance of satisfying as sexual desires. Charges you have are spot on and these are serious charges, very hard to beat for a defense.

Is this an embellished way Ryan of saying that he basically tried to have his own prostitution ring.

Is this an embellished way Ryan of saying that he basically tried to have his own prostitution ring.

That's one way to put it. You know, it's almost a way of saying he controlled this almost like a mobster controls certain criminal organizations. The allegations here and when you talk about Rico, it all stems it's first started because of mob activity. You couldn't necessarily say someone did something directly, but you can say people got together, set up an enterprise, and decided to carry out criminal acts. So it's almost like, yes, a prosecution ring, but more to facilitate these free costs. According to the allegations. And even if it's important to say these are all allegations, at this point, the federal government has put together a case. They've compiled what they say is mountains of evidence, and so this will all have to be proven in Courtant what have you.

That's one way to put it. You know, it's almost a way of saying he controlled this almost like a mobster controls certain criminal organizations. The allegations here and when you talk about Rico, it all stems it's first started because of mob activity. You couldn't necessarily say someone did something directly, but you can say people got together, set up an enterprise, and decided to carry out criminal acts. So it's almost like, yes, a prosecution ring, but more to facilitate these free costs. According to the allegations. And even if it's important to say these are all allegations, at this point, the federal government has put together a case. They've compiled what they say is mountains of evidence, and so this will all have to be proven in Courtant what have you.

Ever seen anybody, of course doesn't turned down fifty million dollar bond, I mean fifty million. He's offering up fifty million dollars to get all to you know, let him out of jail, let him go to home confinement and detainment, promising according to TMZ, anyway that he wasn't going to he wasn't going to be near any women or anything like that. And they still said, hell no, stay your behind in jail. As of Tuesday afternoon, do you find that to be a tad bit odd.

Ever seen anybody, of course doesn't turned down fifty million dollar bond, I mean fifty million. He's offering up fifty million dollars to get all to you know, let him out of jail, let him go to home confinement and detainment, promising according to TMZ, anyway that he wasn't going to he wasn't going to be near any women or anything like that. And they still said, hell no, stay your behind in jail. As of Tuesday afternoon, do you find that to be a tad bit odd.

Not at all, not considering the nature of the crimes. Because when you look about bail, right, Stephen A is not just about well can I sit at home? I'll be fine. I won't leave his defense lawyer putting up, Hey, Sam, we're going to put up fifty million bond, showing passports in the bail hearing, I've got his passport, his children's passports. He's not going anywhere. But when you talk about giving bail, there's a couple of factors involved, the dangerousness of the individual, the flight risk involved potentially, and the nature of the crimes dangerousness. These are harsh allegations kidnapping, four sex, coercion, bribery, kidnapping, arson. That's just some of what they're alleging in this complaint. Flight risk, you're talking about a billion Stephen He's saying, I'll give up my house. The prosecution looks at that and says, well, look, you have so many resources. You could find a number of ways of getting out of town. And not only that, the judge in this case, in denying bail, talked about how a lot of these activities happened behind closed doors. And happened when he was under the influence of substances, according to the allegations. So it seems like the judge was looking at this and saying, if I did let you off and stay at home, you could commit the very crimes that prosecutors are alleging, and that's the last thing I want to happen, no matter how much money you're saying you'll offer.

Not at all, not considering the nature of the crimes. Because when you look about bail, right, Stephen A is not just about well can I sit at home? I'll be fine. I won't leave his defense lawyer putting up, Hey, Sam, we're going to put up fifty million bond, showing passports in the bail hearing, I've got his passport, his children's passports. He's not going anywhere. But when you talk about giving bail, there's a couple of factors involved, the dangerousness of the individual, the flight risk involved potentially, and the nature of the crimes dangerousness. These are harsh allegations kidnapping, four sex, coercion, bribery, kidnapping, arson. That's just some of what they're alleging in this complaint. Flight risk, you're talking about a billion Stephen He's saying, I'll give up my house. The prosecution looks at that and says, well, look, you have so many resources. You could find a number of ways of getting out of town. And not only that, the judge in this case, in denying bail, talked about how a lot of these activities happened behind closed doors. And happened when he was under the influence of substances, according to the allegations. So it seems like the judge was looking at this and saying, if I did let you off and stay at home, you could commit the very crimes that prosecutors are alleging, and that's the last thing I want to happen, no matter how much money you're saying you'll offer.

Is that based strictly on the prosecutions assertions or is it about witnesses who've already publicly proclaimed that he's engaged in this behavior and even though they didn't necessarily do it. This past Tuesday, the noise reverberating around this country about him and the kind of acts that he's alleged to have committed, and along with the video of him hitting and kicking Cassi even or a few months ago. How much of a role did debt play in your estimation in the judge denying him bail on Tuesday.

Is that based strictly on the prosecutions assertions or is it about witnesses who've already publicly proclaimed that he's engaged in this behavior and even though they didn't necessarily do it. This past Tuesday, the noise reverberating around this country about him and the kind of acts that he's alleged to have committed, and along with the video of him hitting and kicking Cassi even or a few months ago. How much of a role did debt play in your estimation in the judge denying him bail on Tuesday.

Denying bail on Tuesday, I think it played a role because it's the basis of the indictment in some ways. So the idea is, this is the situation that happened with Cassidy that you're putting up right there right now, at least according to what we can surmise from the indictment, that's part of this, that's part of what they're considered to be these freak costs, that's part of some of the alleged conduct. They're saying that did he did? And so the judge and looking at that and tying all this together in the indictment, says, hey, these kinds of things could happen, Maybe not the behaviors seeing on the video there, but in terms of what prosecutors are alleging. Now, if you talk about the larger picture here, when you talk about the free costs, this overall behavior, the judge looks at that and looks at what's out there, and the last thing they want to do is say I let somebody out on bail. They provided the money, and then they did the same conduct, the very same conduct that's being alleged. We find out that later in a sense trying to protect the public from what could be a dangerous individual. So did it have an impact, Yes, in the sense of what the prosecutors are saying, p did he did in this entire criminal enterprises they alleged.

Denying bail on Tuesday, I think it played a role because it's the basis of the indictment in some ways. So the idea is, this is the situation that happened with Cassidy that you're putting up right there right now, at least according to what we can surmise from the indictment, that's part of this, that's part of what they're considered to be these freak costs, that's part of some of the alleged conduct. They're saying that did he did? And so the judge and looking at that and tying all this together in the indictment, says, hey, these kinds of things could happen, Maybe not the behaviors seeing on the video there, but in terms of what prosecutors are alleging. Now, if you talk about the larger picture here, when you talk about the free costs, this overall behavior, the judge looks at that and looks at what's out there, and the last thing they want to do is say I let somebody out on bail. They provided the money, and then they did the same conduct, the very same conduct that's being alleged. We find out that later in a sense trying to protect the public from what could be a dangerous individual. So did it have an impact, Yes, in the sense of what the prosecutors are saying, p did he did in this entire criminal enterprises they alleged.

Interested in knowing what you think about the arguments that P. Diddy tried to make in his own defense through his lawyer. Of course, on Tuesday, I saw his lawyer appear, one of his lawyers appear on Cuomo on News Nation, and when she was talking to Chris Cuomo, she articulated that the difference people that brought up are Kelly. They brought up stuff like that, and they were like, you're talking about underage people there in this particular instance, they're saying, you might abhor P. Diddy's behavior, but nevertheless it involved consenting adults. That is the argument that they were trying to make. How plausible of an argument is that at this particular moment in time, Stephen A.

Interested in knowing what you think about the arguments that P. Diddy tried to make in his own defense through his lawyer. Of course, on Tuesday, I saw his lawyer appear, one of his lawyers appear on Cuomo on News Nation, and when she was talking to Chris Cuomo, she articulated that the difference people that brought up are Kelly. They brought up stuff like that, and they were like, you're talking about underage people there in this particular instance, they're saying, you might abhor P. Diddy's behavior, but nevertheless it involved consenting adults. That is the argument that they were trying to make. How plausible of an argument is that at this particular moment in time, Stephen A.

This is a tough case to be but I will say this, what you're articulating right now is the defense strategy to a t think about it this way. They look at this situation and they say, this entire case for them, the defense is based on Cassie's allegations. And what that really is for the defense, at least according to what we've heard from them so far, is a relationship gone bad, gone very bad. And it's important to note when you look at the defense argument here. There are bad people who do very bad things, but just because they do bad things doesn't mean those are criminally bad things. That's sort of the angle they're taking there. Even when they talk about the Cassie video in the detention hearing, they talked about the precursor to that being an argument over stuff that was on his cell phone, about communicating to other women. They've talked about did he being an imperfect person, They've talked about the freak costs being adults doing adult things. When looked at that way, it's like they're trying to paint stephen A a picture of a bunch of people got together, had a party and there was sex. That's not illegal. A bunch of people got together, had a party and there was crazy sex. That's not illegal, none of they're trying to paint it as if the activities that people are saying that he did are not criminal acts. They might be untoward, people might think they're freaky, people might not like him, people might think he's a bad person, but for them, being a bad person does not mean being criminally liable.

This is a tough case to be but I will say this, what you're articulating right now is the defense strategy to a t think about it this way. They look at this situation and they say, this entire case for them, the defense is based on Cassie's allegations. And what that really is for the defense, at least according to what we've heard from them so far, is a relationship gone bad, gone very bad. And it's important to note when you look at the defense argument here. There are bad people who do very bad things, but just because they do bad things doesn't mean those are criminally bad things. That's sort of the angle they're taking there. Even when they talk about the Cassie video in the detention hearing, they talked about the precursor to that being an argument over stuff that was on his cell phone, about communicating to other women. They've talked about did he being an imperfect person, They've talked about the freak costs being adults doing adult things. When looked at that way, it's like they're trying to paint stephen A a picture of a bunch of people got together, had a party and there was sex. That's not illegal. A bunch of people got together, had a party and there was crazy sex. That's not illegal, none of they're trying to paint it as if the activities that people are saying that he did are not criminal acts. They might be untoward, people might think they're freaky, people might not like him, people might think he's a bad person, but for them, being a bad person does not mean being criminally liable.

One could argue, you look at Bill Cosby and what happened to him, albeit years later, you look at Jeffrey Epstein, you look at Harvey Weinstein, you look at R.

One could argue, you look at Bill Cosby and what happened to him, albeit years later, you look at Jeffrey Epstein, you look at Harvey Weinstein, you look at R.

Kelly, because you have.

Kelly, because you have.

Those specific incidences to point to in recent memory that would dilute the potency of such an argument under the part of the defense.

Those specific incidences to point to in recent memory that would dilute the potency of such an argument under the part of the defense.

Do you agree with such an assertion?

Do you agree with such an assertion?

I do personally because we've now seen and frankly, we've known in some ways many many people in the public and just in the way you look at life. We have known about the issue of power and balance in our society on jobs, in different occasions. Many people men your listeners have probably experienced it on many occasions. And what we've seen through the Epstein case, the RKelly case, is that there are situations that the rich and powerful can put other people in that can coerce them, force them to do things against their will, even force them in criminal ways. But they can do it because of their power dynamic. So, getting back to your point, this idea of hey, these are consenting individuals doing consenting things. Did they's relationship with victim Ie and the indictment, which many people are saying is Cassie. In this case, it's consenting activity. But looked at another way, especially through the lens of what we've seen recently with Epstein, with Bill Cosby, with R. Kelly, we now know that there are things that are going on with powerful individuals that may be criminal act but they're doing it because they have the power over others. They're doing it because they can, They're doing it because they're holding threats. Some of these allegations are you put somebody up in a hotel somewhere to live, and then you threat to take away unless they participate in free costs. You kidnap them, you commit arson in other cases, bribe. Read so many different things that they're alleging here that a criminal enterprise, in their mind, a criminal enterprise has done in order to facilitate these criminal acts. So for me, the argument falls short. But here's the thing, stephen A. Everything changes when you're in a courtroom. And if the defense, what they're going to try to do is convince a jury of Hey, you may hate p. Diddy, may hate everything about him, you may think he uses his power for wrong means, but in a criminal way, is that what he's doing? And they're going to try to poke holes in that.

I do personally because we've now seen and frankly, we've known in some ways many many people in the public and just in the way you look at life. We have known about the issue of power and balance in our society on jobs, in different occasions. Many people men your listeners have probably experienced it on many occasions. And what we've seen through the Epstein case, the RKelly case, is that there are situations that the rich and powerful can put other people in that can coerce them, force them to do things against their will, even force them in criminal ways. But they can do it because of their power dynamic. So, getting back to your point, this idea of hey, these are consenting individuals doing consenting things. Did they's relationship with victim Ie and the indictment, which many people are saying is Cassie. In this case, it's consenting activity. But looked at another way, especially through the lens of what we've seen recently with Epstein, with Bill Cosby, with R. Kelly, we now know that there are things that are going on with powerful individuals that may be criminal act but they're doing it because they have the power over others. They're doing it because they can, They're doing it because they're holding threats. Some of these allegations are you put somebody up in a hotel somewhere to live, and then you threat to take away unless they participate in free costs. You kidnap them, you commit arson in other cases, bribe. Read so many different things that they're alleging here that a criminal enterprise, in their mind, a criminal enterprise has done in order to facilitate these criminal acts. So for me, the argument falls short. But here's the thing, stephen A. Everything changes when you're in a courtroom. And if the defense, what they're going to try to do is convince a jury of Hey, you may hate p. Diddy, may hate everything about him, you may think he uses his power for wrong means, but in a criminal way, is that what he's doing? And they're going to try to poke holes in that.

Just a few more questions for I let you get on out of here.

Just a few more questions for I let you get on out of here.

Ryan Smith, legal analysts for ESPN and ABC News, right here with stephen A.

Ryan Smith, legal analysts for ESPN and ABC News, right here with stephen A.

Smith on the stephen A. Smith Show. P Diddy's face. The wave of lawsuits, one.

Smith on the stephen A. Smith Show. P Diddy's face. The wave of lawsuits, one.

Is recent as last week accusing him a sexual assault of misconduct in the past year. Of course, he's denied wrongdoing. How many lawsuits has he settled at this point? Are you aware of that number so far?

Is recent as last week accusing him a sexual assault of misconduct in the past year. Of course, he's denied wrongdoing. How many lawsuits has he settled at this point? Are you aware of that number so far?

Not aware of the specific number, but it's been more than a few. And here's the thing when you think about that. I know a lot of people see that, and technically, and this is one of the mountains of problems for the defense people here that he settle a lawsuit and say that you must have done something, must have done something. Doing something does not mean guilty of rico conspiracy. Doing something does not mean guilty of sexual traffic, trafficking by force, fraud or cores or transportation for engagement in prostitution. Those are the charges he's facing in the federal indictment. So that's going to be important here because yes, they will have and you know already you can see, stephen A the mountain of evidence that prosecutors are compiling in their detention letter. They talked about over fifty witnesses and victims that they've talked to, over one hundred electronic devices, securing from his property, over a thousand bottles of baby oil and lubricants. This is what they're all trying to do to build out this idea that these freak offs happened and that he violated the law in this way and face the severe penalties for it.

Not aware of the specific number, but it's been more than a few. And here's the thing when you think about that. I know a lot of people see that, and technically, and this is one of the mountains of problems for the defense people here that he settle a lawsuit and say that you must have done something, must have done something. Doing something does not mean guilty of rico conspiracy. Doing something does not mean guilty of sexual traffic, trafficking by force, fraud or cores or transportation for engagement in prostitution. Those are the charges he's facing in the federal indictment. So that's going to be important here because yes, they will have and you know already you can see, stephen A the mountain of evidence that prosecutors are compiling in their detention letter. They talked about over fifty witnesses and victims that they've talked to, over one hundred electronic devices, securing from his property, over a thousand bottles of baby oil and lubricants. This is what they're all trying to do to build out this idea that these freak offs happened and that he violated the law in this way and face the severe penalties for it.

What will happen to his assets?

What will happen to his assets?

Answer me that question, Because he put up fifty million dollars they didn't accept it. But what scheduled to happen to his assets right now?

Answer me that question, Because he put up fifty million dollars they didn't accept it. But what scheduled to happen to his assets right now?

Yeah, if he's convicted. So if he's convicted, one of the things they're asking for and here is for fiture of assets, and look, Stephen ad that could mean his businesses, bad boy houses, cars, playing, all these different assets he has. We don't know the amounts to the extent of what would happen here. That's going to be up to the judge again, if convicted, but that's what could happen right now. It's all a waiting game. We wait for the trial. They have to go through discovery and that could be months and months and months away. So for now those assets might be generally fine, but all bets are off if he's convicted.

Yeah, if he's convicted. So if he's convicted, one of the things they're asking for and here is for fiture of assets, and look, Stephen ad that could mean his businesses, bad boy houses, cars, playing, all these different assets he has. We don't know the amounts to the extent of what would happen here. That's going to be up to the judge again, if convicted, but that's what could happen right now. It's all a waiting game. We wait for the trial. They have to go through discovery and that could be months and months and months away. So for now those assets might be generally fine, but all bets are off if he's convicted.

Based on what happens, Kevin Lawle CEO of three hundred and Entertainment, announced that he'll step down at the end of September. He announced that Tuesday. He's been with Warner Music Group since two thousand and four, which formerly hosed did these bad Boy records, and has been a vocal defender of Puffy. What are we to make of the announcement on the day of the indictment that that something like that happened that he decided to step down.

Based on what happens, Kevin Lawle CEO of three hundred and Entertainment, announced that he'll step down at the end of September. He announced that Tuesday. He's been with Warner Music Group since two thousand and four, which formerly hosed did these bad Boy records, and has been a vocal defender of Puffy. What are we to make of the announcement on the day of the indictment that that something like that happened that he decided to step down.

Yeah, it's a tough one because you look at this stephen A and I guess on one side, you could say, well, is there some sort of involvement with Kevin Lyles in this? But again I put my legal hat on and I say, we can't know that for sure. All of this is even with p Diddy, it's innocent until proven guilty. I always want to say that in a case like this because the allegations are so explosive. But when you talk about other individual individuals involved, think about what is alleged here in the indictment. It's not just did he committed a crime racketeering? Conspiracy? Is you had a meeting of the minds with another person a group of individuals to set up a criminal enterprise and do criminal acts. I am not saying that Lyles or anyone else that might have been identified or that people are thinking of, had anything to do with that. But I think one of the problems with people involved in Diddy's life is that they are now wrapped in in some way in this They might be in some way questioned about whether or not they have some involvement, or questioned about what they knew, or questioned about what they knew about his activities, So it becomes tough to say that the two are related. We just don't know for sure. But this is the problem of being in Diddy's orbit at this point in time with these charges. One thing, I think all the people who were involved in his orbit in somewhere or others, employees, if they haven't already been talked to, they must be thinking, I wonder if they're looking for me next. I wonder if they want to ask what I know? And that puts you in a really delicate spot.

Yeah, it's a tough one because you look at this stephen A and I guess on one side, you could say, well, is there some sort of involvement with Kevin Lyles in this? But again I put my legal hat on and I say, we can't know that for sure. All of this is even with p Diddy, it's innocent until proven guilty. I always want to say that in a case like this because the allegations are so explosive. But when you talk about other individual individuals involved, think about what is alleged here in the indictment. It's not just did he committed a crime racketeering? Conspiracy? Is you had a meeting of the minds with another person a group of individuals to set up a criminal enterprise and do criminal acts. I am not saying that Lyles or anyone else that might have been identified or that people are thinking of, had anything to do with that. But I think one of the problems with people involved in Diddy's life is that they are now wrapped in in some way in this They might be in some way questioned about whether or not they have some involvement, or questioned about what they knew, or questioned about what they knew about his activities, So it becomes tough to say that the two are related. We just don't know for sure. But this is the problem of being in Diddy's orbit at this point in time with these charges. One thing, I think all the people who were involved in his orbit in somewhere or others, employees, if they haven't already been talked to, they must be thinking, I wonder if they're looking for me next. I wonder if they want to ask what I know? And that puts you in a really delicate spot.

The very last question here Ryan, you know should Knight had indicated doing an interview months ago that Diddy's in a world of trouble because of who he is, who he knows, who he's connected to, and how there might be something to be concerned about. He alluded to Jeffrey Epstein and how ultimately he had committed supposedly reportedly suicide in twenty nineteen. I remember the two cameras near the jail cell. There was something wrong with it, and there was no video of the suicide, et cetera, et cetera. So you have a lot of conspiracy theorists out there that was saying he was taken out because of who he knew and who he could implicate, et cetera, et cetera. And sug Knight refer to that. Usually you're not trying to use Sugar Knight as a source. But when you talk about the music industry and some of the stuff that goes on in the music industry, if anybody would know, it would be him. Is that real or fantasized in your eyes? As it pertains to the kind of concerns that somebody in P Diddy's position should have at this moment in time.

The very last question here Ryan, you know should Knight had indicated doing an interview months ago that Diddy's in a world of trouble because of who he is, who he knows, who he's connected to, and how there might be something to be concerned about. He alluded to Jeffrey Epstein and how ultimately he had committed supposedly reportedly suicide in twenty nineteen. I remember the two cameras near the jail cell. There was something wrong with it, and there was no video of the suicide, et cetera, et cetera. So you have a lot of conspiracy theorists out there that was saying he was taken out because of who he knew and who he could implicate, et cetera, et cetera. And sug Knight refer to that. Usually you're not trying to use Sugar Knight as a source. But when you talk about the music industry and some of the stuff that goes on in the music industry, if anybody would know, it would be him. Is that real or fantasized in your eyes? As it pertains to the kind of concerns that somebody in P Diddy's position should have at this moment in time.

You mean that others might be wrapped into this outside of you, and that other people bigger than him might be wrapped into this.

You mean that others might be wrapped into this outside of you, and that other people bigger than him might be wrapped into this.

Yeah, potentially.

Yeah, potentially.

Yeah, I think that when I think that not has something to do with them saying no, we're not granting you bail.

Yeah, I think that when I think that not has something to do with them saying no, we're not granting you bail.

We're gonna keep you right here, you know.

We're gonna keep you right here, you know.

I think that when you have the Homeland Security and again I don't know, but my attitude, Ryan is this, if Homeland Security is coming your way, chances are they age is coming for you.

I think that when you have the Homeland Security and again I don't know, but my attitude, Ryan is this, if Homeland Security is coming your way, chances are they age is coming for you.

They're coming for more than just you. That that's wow.

They're coming for more than just you. That that's wow.

I'm thinking I could be wrong. You would know better than me. That's why I'm asking.

I'm thinking I could be wrong. You would know better than me. That's why I'm asking.

I'll tell you. It's an interesting point because you almost look at it like this. There's two ways to look at somebody in a situation like this when you have a P. Diddy. First of all, you could look at it one way and say, what bigger fish is there than him? So, because he's a big enough fish in out of himself. This is a man who's assets some estimate to be in the billion range, the companies, all the different things that he's got, So he's a big figure in the industry. But I mentioned two ways to look at it. One way you look at these charges is the prosecutor's office, the SDN of the Southern District of New York is making a statement, we are not going to tolerate this kind of conduct. So if you are involved under Diddy around Diddy, we will hold you accountable. They have said stephen A, they are not done. That's what's really interesting in this. They are not done. They might be doing more. Even in the detention letter they sent they said they're not revealing every everything right now, So there's more out there that we don't know. To your point, someone higher, what you do in a lot of these cases is if you've got somebody charged with a crime, you might step back and say, okay, who do you know above you? What information are you willing to give on to this person? And you talk about the severity of these charges, think about it life in prison as a maximum that could be used to get Diddy to comply if they think there's something to this, if the defense thinks there's something to this, to maybe flip on somebody else. So we're talking about theory, we're not talking about fact. But in some ways I think you've got a point. You're not only sending the message of anybody in the orbit. You could be held accountable in some way if you don't come forward with the information you know or to somebody like Diddy. Hey, if you know others in different situations, tell us what you know, and maybe that changes your picture. I'm not saying it's fact. I'm saying it's always a possibility when you're looking at a case like this.

I'll tell you. It's an interesting point because you almost look at it like this. There's two ways to look at somebody in a situation like this when you have a P. Diddy. First of all, you could look at it one way and say, what bigger fish is there than him? So, because he's a big enough fish in out of himself. This is a man who's assets some estimate to be in the billion range, the companies, all the different things that he's got, So he's a big figure in the industry. But I mentioned two ways to look at it. One way you look at these charges is the prosecutor's office, the SDN of the Southern District of New York is making a statement, we are not going to tolerate this kind of conduct. So if you are involved under Diddy around Diddy, we will hold you accountable. They have said stephen A, they are not done. That's what's really interesting in this. They are not done. They might be doing more. Even in the detention letter they sent they said they're not revealing every everything right now, So there's more out there that we don't know. To your point, someone higher, what you do in a lot of these cases is if you've got somebody charged with a crime, you might step back and say, okay, who do you know above you? What information are you willing to give on to this person? And you talk about the severity of these charges, think about it life in prison as a maximum that could be used to get Diddy to comply if they think there's something to this, if the defense thinks there's something to this, to maybe flip on somebody else. So we're talking about theory, we're not talking about fact. But in some ways I think you've got a point. You're not only sending the message of anybody in the orbit. You could be held accountable in some way if you don't come forward with the information you know or to somebody like Diddy. Hey, if you know others in different situations, tell us what you know, and maybe that changes your picture. I'm not saying it's fact. I'm saying it's always a possibility when you're looking at a case like this.

Of the very best in the business, legal analysts extraordinaire for ESPN and ABC News, the one and only Ryan Smith right here on Steven H.

Of the very best in the business, legal analysts extraordinaire for ESPN and ABC News, the one and only Ryan Smith right here on Steven H.

Smiths Show.

Smiths Show.

Thank you so much for your time, my man, and the education. Much much appreciated. Man, Thank you so.

Thank you so much for your time, my man, and the education. Much much appreciated. Man, Thank you so.

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Much anytime, man, take care of That's a lot.

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To think about right there. Aint know doubt that's a lot to think about. Right there.

Ryan dropped some info on all of us. I hope y'all caught it. I hope y'all got it. Just even more reasons, not less, even more reasons for p Diddy to be concerned. I'll get into all of that just a little bit more and touch on it before I close out the show today, but not before I talk about a colleague of mine who's decided, shockingly, I might add, to step away from the business. One of the very very best to ever do it is walking away. I'll bring that up and tell you who I'm talking about it.

Ryan dropped some info on all of us. I hope y'all caught it. I hope y'all got it. Just even more reasons, not less, even more reasons for p Diddy to be concerned. I'll get into all of that just a little bit more and touch on it before I close out the show today, but not before I talk about a colleague of mine who's decided, shockingly, I might add, to step away from the business. One of the very very best to ever do it is walking away. I'll bring that up and tell you who I'm talking about it.

In a minute.

In a minute.

You're watching Steven Ate Smithshaw over the digital airways on YouTube and listening to the Steven Ate Smith Show of iHeartRadio. Back with my closing remarks and my comments about a colleague in a minute, Welcome back to Cevny smithshal right here over the digital airways of YouTube and of course iHeartRadio. Ryan Smith was excellent, make no mistake about it. He is a legal analyst for ABC News and ESPN for a reason. A brother knows what he's talking about. He's right on top of it, and he gave us cause to pause and contemplate a few things. The fact that why the courts initially turned down a fifty million dollar bond, some of the allegations that have been thrown against him. I'm just looking right here to report. I mean, we've got stuff with p Diddy. Daton back to nineteen ninety nine, arrested on felony charges in the nightclub shooting, reached the settlement after he and an executive allegedly beat up into Scope Records. Executive Steve Stout December of nineteen ninety nine was involved in a club shooting where when he was with his then girlfriend of one and only, Jennifer Lopez, and gunshots were fired and stuff like that. A woman by the name of Natanya Rubin, who was at the club that night, said she saw Combs shoot her in the face. She filed a one hundred and thirty million dollars lawsuit against them in two thousand and eight, which was settled in twenty and eleven. There's one in June of two thousand and four where fashion designer Kamora Lee Simmons, Russell Simmons' ex wife said in a New York magazine interview that quote she said something to Combs and he threatened to hit her while she was pregnant. Combs eventually got down on his knees in public to apologize. February twenty twenty four, Combs allegedly threatened a blow up rapper Kid Cutty's car after he learned the rapper was romantically interested in his ex girlfriend R and B singer Cassandra Cassi Ventura. Kid Cutty's car exploded in his driveway around the same time, according to a lawsuit later fib by venturer cut He told the New York.

You're watching Steven Ate Smithshaw over the digital airways on YouTube and listening to the Steven Ate Smith Show of iHeartRadio. Back with my closing remarks and my comments about a colleague in a minute, Welcome back to Cevny smithshal right here over the digital airways of YouTube and of course iHeartRadio. Ryan Smith was excellent, make no mistake about it. He is a legal analyst for ABC News and ESPN for a reason. A brother knows what he's talking about. He's right on top of it, and he gave us cause to pause and contemplate a few things. The fact that why the courts initially turned down a fifty million dollar bond, some of the allegations that have been thrown against him. I'm just looking right here to report. I mean, we've got stuff with p Diddy. Daton back to nineteen ninety nine, arrested on felony charges in the nightclub shooting, reached the settlement after he and an executive allegedly beat up into Scope Records. Executive Steve Stout December of nineteen ninety nine was involved in a club shooting where when he was with his then girlfriend of one and only, Jennifer Lopez, and gunshots were fired and stuff like that. A woman by the name of Natanya Rubin, who was at the club that night, said she saw Combs shoot her in the face. She filed a one hundred and thirty million dollars lawsuit against them in two thousand and eight, which was settled in twenty and eleven. There's one in June of two thousand and four where fashion designer Kamora Lee Simmons, Russell Simmons' ex wife said in a New York magazine interview that quote she said something to Combs and he threatened to hit her while she was pregnant. Combs eventually got down on his knees in public to apologize. February twenty twenty four, Combs allegedly threatened a blow up rapper Kid Cutty's car after he learned the rapper was romantically interested in his ex girlfriend R and B singer Cassandra Cassi Ventura. Kid Cutty's car exploded in his driveway around the same time, according to a lawsuit later fib by venturer cut He told the New York.

Times the story was true.

Times the story was true.

June of twenty and nineteen, some spoke against them, swearing he abused her during their five year relationship. December twenty twenty two or b O day, you heard what she had to say, you know, during a podcast call her daddy said Combs fired her from the band because she quote wasn't willing to do what was expected of her, not talent wise, but in other areas. Another's lawsuit first filed against Diddy BODCASTI Venturer. She sued Comb's alleging in the New York Federal Court that he brought her into his ostentatious, fast paced and drug fueled lifestyle when she was just nineteen and he was thirty seven years of age. We know what's come of that because we saw the video. I'm just looking at all of this. It's a pattern. That's what they're trying to say. I'm not sitting up there and putting this business out on Front street. It's already been out on Front Street. And in the end, what it comes down to is the fact that there's a litany of allegations against them that he's going to have to answer for because they're gonna use all of this against him. And when I asked Ryan Smith about Jeffrey Epstein and bringing out things analogous to that, Yes, it was a hypothetical question on my part. Why do I ask that? Because guess what, ladies and gentlemen, I'm a law and order fanatic. I loved Matt Locke, I loved Perry Mason, I loved Colombo.

June of twenty and nineteen, some spoke against them, swearing he abused her during their five year relationship. December twenty twenty two or b O day, you heard what she had to say, you know, during a podcast call her daddy said Combs fired her from the band because she quote wasn't willing to do what was expected of her, not talent wise, but in other areas. Another's lawsuit first filed against Diddy BODCASTI Venturer. She sued Comb's alleging in the New York Federal Court that he brought her into his ostentatious, fast paced and drug fueled lifestyle when she was just nineteen and he was thirty seven years of age. We know what's come of that because we saw the video. I'm just looking at all of this. It's a pattern. That's what they're trying to say. I'm not sitting up there and putting this business out on Front street. It's already been out on Front Street. And in the end, what it comes down to is the fact that there's a litany of allegations against them that he's going to have to answer for because they're gonna use all of this against him. And when I asked Ryan Smith about Jeffrey Epstein and bringing out things analogous to that, Yes, it was a hypothetical question on my part. Why do I ask that? Because guess what, ladies and gentlemen, I'm a law and order fanatic. I loved Matt Locke, I loved Perry Mason, I loved Colombo.

I loved all of those shows.

I loved all of those shows.

Okay, And you see people engaging in hypotheticals all the time, theories being thrown in front of the courts to explain what actions have taken place in why they may have done so, all of these things.

Okay, And you see people engaging in hypotheticals all the time, theories being thrown in front of the courts to explain what actions have taken place in why they may have done so, all of these things.

So I had no problem asking Ryan Smith that question.

So I had no problem asking Ryan Smith that question.

But being a astute professional that he is, he answered that he didn't engage in hypotheticals. He's stuck to the facts. More power to them. In the end, what it comes down to is this, we don't see what happens moving forward. But the reason why I'm paying so much attention to this story Sean P. Diddy Cohone's case is one thing. Who they're trying to squeeze him to implement maybe another. We're not saying definitively that that's what the courts are doing, and that's what the federal government is doing in pushing this case against them. I'm saying, in all likelihood it is a possibility, and this man is facing potentially life in prison in a federal prison. One would surmise that if you have some information to offer about other folks to incriminate them to make things lighter for you, things could get very, very interesting. As I reported earlier. Earlier, the Daily Mail says several executives at least five in the industry were informed to engage in contingency planning in case they're implicated in any way because shareholders and what have you for their respective companies are not going to protect them. That's according to The Daily Mail. We heard what fifty cent had to say, We heard what Aubrio Day had to say, We hear what Foxy Brown had to say.

But being a astute professional that he is, he answered that he didn't engage in hypotheticals. He's stuck to the facts. More power to them. In the end, what it comes down to is this, we don't see what happens moving forward. But the reason why I'm paying so much attention to this story Sean P. Diddy Cohone's case is one thing. Who they're trying to squeeze him to implement maybe another. We're not saying definitively that that's what the courts are doing, and that's what the federal government is doing in pushing this case against them. I'm saying, in all likelihood it is a possibility, and this man is facing potentially life in prison in a federal prison. One would surmise that if you have some information to offer about other folks to incriminate them to make things lighter for you, things could get very, very interesting. As I reported earlier. Earlier, the Daily Mail says several executives at least five in the industry were informed to engage in contingency planning in case they're implicated in any way because shareholders and what have you for their respective companies are not going to protect them. That's according to The Daily Mail. We heard what fifty cent had to say, We heard what Aubrio Day had to say, We hear what Foxy Brown had to say.

This is bad. It's very bad.

This is bad. It's very bad.

I don't know what else to say, so I'm just gonna leave it at that on that particular subject. But before I go, I want to give a quick shout out to a friend and former ESPN colleague, the man affectionately known as wolj Adrian Woje Drowski, who announced a couple of days ago, he is leaving the ESPN network in the industry all together. Wolde is retiring to become the general manager of the men's basketball program at his alma mater, Saint Bonaventure. Wold released a statement that read quote, it is a thrill of a lifetime to be able to return to a university and community.

I don't know what else to say, so I'm just gonna leave it at that on that particular subject. But before I go, I want to give a quick shout out to a friend and former ESPN colleague, the man affectionately known as wolj Adrian Woje Drowski, who announced a couple of days ago, he is leaving the ESPN network in the industry all together. Wolde is retiring to become the general manager of the men's basketball program at his alma mater, Saint Bonaventure. Wold released a statement that read quote, it is a thrill of a lifetime to be able to return to a university and community.

That I love and a role of service to.

That I love and a role of service to.

Our student athletes, coaches, and institution. I am hopeful that I can bring value in a lot of areas to our basketball program and open doors for our young men's futures in ways both professionally and personally.

Our student athletes, coaches, and institution. I am hopeful that I can bring value in a lot of areas to our basketball program and open doors for our young men's futures in ways both professionally and personally.

A couple of things I want to say about Woljes real quick.

A couple of things I want to say about Woljes real quick.

Number One, At this present moment, he is without questioning the best in the business. As a colleague who's worked with him closely over the last two to three years on NBA Countdown, I can't say enough about what he's meant to the show and what he's meant to the network. It got to a point where there were barely any moments concerning the NBA where it was anything that we had to report. The network mandated we had to go through Woges before things were given the complete Okay, he's that elite at what he does. He is a phenomenal insider, incredibly well connected, very very committed to his craft. And I have no doubt that this was a very hard decision for him to make because I know how much he loves doing what he does. Just remember a few months ago he was on this show and I asked him about his future, his career, how much he enjoyed doing this, etc. Asked him those things, and he thoroughly enjoyed it. But I will say this on his behalf, there's nothing outside of his love for his family that comes close to his love for Saint Bonaventure University. That man loves that university. He's incredibly committed to it, and it's not shocking when you heard why he was stepping away. I imagine that ESPN may try to work things out and work out a way where he can still do some of the things that he was doing while still doing his job at Saint Bonaventure. I imagine that something along those lines will transpire. It'll all depend on where his heart lies and how committed he wants to be to doing what he does at Saint Bonaventure, where he doesn't want any distractions. I assure you that ESPN didn't want I'm going. I can promise you that, I can assure you nobody on NBA countdown one of them going. I can assure you of that, godspeed, nothing but the best to him and for him. He's truly one of the best to have ever done it, without question, and I know it's great of a network as I think ESPN is ween as good today as we were just a few days ago when he was still there. I can promise you that we're not better off today. All the best to my man Wojes, Adrian Wolje and Eowski. You always got a friend and a brother this way, my man, All the best to you, God bless. That's it for this edition of the Stephen A.

Number One, At this present moment, he is without questioning the best in the business. As a colleague who's worked with him closely over the last two to three years on NBA Countdown, I can't say enough about what he's meant to the show and what he's meant to the network. It got to a point where there were barely any moments concerning the NBA where it was anything that we had to report. The network mandated we had to go through Woges before things were given the complete Okay, he's that elite at what he does. He is a phenomenal insider, incredibly well connected, very very committed to his craft. And I have no doubt that this was a very hard decision for him to make because I know how much he loves doing what he does. Just remember a few months ago he was on this show and I asked him about his future, his career, how much he enjoyed doing this, etc. Asked him those things, and he thoroughly enjoyed it. But I will say this on his behalf, there's nothing outside of his love for his family that comes close to his love for Saint Bonaventure University. That man loves that university. He's incredibly committed to it, and it's not shocking when you heard why he was stepping away. I imagine that ESPN may try to work things out and work out a way where he can still do some of the things that he was doing while still doing his job at Saint Bonaventure. I imagine that something along those lines will transpire. It'll all depend on where his heart lies and how committed he wants to be to doing what he does at Saint Bonaventure, where he doesn't want any distractions. I assure you that ESPN didn't want I'm going. I can promise you that, I can assure you nobody on NBA countdown one of them going. I can assure you of that, godspeed, nothing but the best to him and for him. He's truly one of the best to have ever done it, without question, and I know it's great of a network as I think ESPN is ween as good today as we were just a few days ago when he was still there. I can promise you that we're not better off today. All the best to my man Wojes, Adrian Wolje and Eowski. You always got a friend and a brother this way, my man, All the best to you, God bless. That's it for this edition of the Stephen A.

Smith Show. I'm signing off until next time.

Smith Show. I'm signing off until next time.

Peace in love everybody, God bless.

Peace in love everybody, God bless.