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What's up, everybody. Welcome to this latest edition of The stephen A. Smith Show, coming at you usually three days a week over the digital airways of YouTube. Once again has always got to take a moment to thank y'all for the growth that we've been experiencing right here on The stephen A. Smith Show. We're on the verge of eclipsing seven hundred and twenty five thousand subscribers. Plus we've had more than one point two million downloads over the last three months over iHeartRadio. So we can't thank everybody enough for the love and support. Keep it coming, and we're gonna keep on coming. As I told you on Monday when I interviewed mister Patrick bet David from Value Tainment from the PDP from the PbD Podcast, I told you there would be a part two because Part one had aired Monday, and obviously he had a lot of interesting things to say, just about his personality, his approach, his business acumen, what's led to his success, what his upbringing was like, etc. Etc. Well, Part two is the one that I waited for a lot because I know he's got a lot of interesting things to say about the world of politics. We've got a president of the United States of America and Joe Biden, who I've been on the record saying needs to step down. I've been on the record stating that we need a new president. I've said that on many many occasions. Kamala Harris is the Vice President of the United States of America. I think right now she'd be a better choice. Gavin Newsom, the governor of California. The way that he's made his presence felt over the last several months, I think he looks like a viable choice. Hakeem jeffries An already whipping the house. I think he'd be a viable choice. Wes Moore of Maryland, I think he'd be a viable choice, along with various others. I've stated this position. I'm not backing up from it one bit. I think the President of the United States, in the eyes of a lot of people on the left, has done an outstanding job. I think as human beings in the United States, since we have to take into account its thirty six years of service as the United States Senator out of Delaware, that eight years he spent as Vice President, and now the four years he's been in office as the commander in chief. That's forty eight years of service. Thinking that he should step down just because he seems to have lost a step is no shame. He's eighty one, he's approaching eighty two years of age. The reality is is that some of us, most of us, lose a step for two at that particular moment in time. But after watching that interview with George Stephanopolis this past Friday, I don't know what you want me to say. Even George Stephanopolis has hinted towards a need for him to step down. Certain Democratic officials have been on the record publications, whether it be the Atlanta Jodal Constitution, a Chicago Tribune and Wall Street Journal, New York Times, etc. Everybody has alluded to the need for this president to step down, knowing that as a backdrop, it would be apropos anation to hear from a guy like Patrick bet David. We've certainly heard from enough liberals on this show, and we will continue to hear from them as well. But as I've told you all before, we're gonna hear all sides, and as long as the conversation is respectful and intelligent, we're gonna we're gonna address it. And we're gonna make sure that we listen to everybody and what they have to say as opposed to engaging and hate mongering or anything like that. We're not doing that or fear mongering. Rather, we're not doing that on this show. We're gonna listen to everybody. And I wanted to make sure everybody knew that, and that that was a big reason as to why Patrick bet David was kind enough to sit down with me because I asked him to because I wanted to get his perspective. And by the way, even though he doesn't pride himself from being a conservative, he thinks. He says he's an independent, just like I am. We're not liberals, we're not conservatives. The bottom line is whether it's independence, whether it's liberals, whether it's conservatives, if you have something constructive and substantive to say, we want to hear from you on this podcast. My audience wants to hear from you. With that being said, that's why Part two is something that I told you all days ago you needed to look forward to. So here it is Part two, with yours truly sitting down with the one and only Patrick Bett David. Here we go Okay, everybody, you know what time it is, right, It's Tom for stephen A's Weekly Picks. 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Football season is right around the corner, so I'm getting started early with my picks. For Get this category total receiving yards for the season. Now, let's get to them. Miami Dolphin stud the cheatah himself, Tyreek Hill more or less than one three hundred and seventy five and a half yards receiving. It's Tyreek Hill. I mean it's seventeen hundred, it's eighteen hundred. Is damn near two thousand? This is what he does. Thirteen hundred and seventy five and a half yards for him? Please, I ain't sweating that. Definitely going with more. Let's move on to the next up. Ain't know he's a debate in that Minnesota Vikings stud Justin Jefferson may be the best receiver in all of football more or less than one thousand, two hundred and ninety nine and a half receiving yards. I know that Kirk Cousins is going. I know there's a rookie and j. J. McCarthy thead. I get all of that, but Justin Jefferson is still Justin Jefferson Jefferson. He could take a five or ten yard pass and take it to the house. I'm not ruling him out. It's a seventeen game season. I know it'll be some struggles, but ultimately I think this brother's gonna get more than one thousand, two hundred and ninety nine and a half yards. I'm gonna say more with that brother right there, Ceedee Lamb of the Dallas Cowboys, more or less than one thousand, three hundred and twenty five and a half receiving yards, it better be more. Dark Prescott got some stuff to prove. He got a new contract. He's looking to get right. He's looking at it about fifty seven million a year, especially now that Trevor Lawrence got his back. Of course, he's gonna be throwing the football a lot. And who's he gonna be throwing it two more than Ceedee Lamb if for no reason other reason, rather other than volume, Ceedee Lamb is gonna get one thousand, three hundred and twenty five and a half receiving yards. It's gonna get more than that. We're gonna go with more. Last minu not at least Arizona Cardinals rookie Marvin Harrison Junior out of a high state more or less or the Ohio State. Let me correct myself, more or less than one and twenty five and a half receiving yards. That brother is special. And I don't know if y'all remember this or not. His daddy was special. Marvin Harrison was that dude, and so is this kid. I'm gonna go with more strictly because of his talents alone. I don't know how much I believe in Arison the Cardinals, but I believe in this brother. I can tell that much. Seventeen games, Heason, I'm gonna go with more than one thousand and twenty five and a half receiving yards. So we've got Tyreek Hill, We've got Justin Jefferson, we've got Ceede Lamb, and we've got Marvin Harrison Junior. More and more and more and more in all categories, on all fronts for these brothers. This is what they bring to the table. This is why Prospects brought them up, because we like the word more associated with prospects, because we're thinking more money in our pockets when we show you how right we are. I'm gonna tell you it didn't happen when I met you. It happened before I met you, but you've been incredibly instrumental in my personal growth in this one and I wanted to save this interview to tell you this little story because as a black man growing up in the streets of New York City being subjected to so many things I had been subjected to. I remember when and I revealed this to you when you interviewed me on your show right down the Hall, and I talked about how when I was let go in two thousand and nine, and so much of it was internalized on a personal level, I got screwed. I felt this way I should have had this. How do I wake up one day I have four jobs and the end of the day I got nothing and all of this other stuff. And then, after my mother basically slapped some sense into me figuratively speaking, by really having me confront my deficiencies, I went about the business of mastering my business. And from that point forward, I've never felt more free. And talking to you years later and talking about business the way that we've talked about business, to me, the greatest thing that has happened to me is that I've allowed I've been able to capture the ability to depersonalize things. The more knowledgeable I've become about my business, the more I speak the business language to business folks. Once I'm talking about that language, they have no choice but to be compelled to speak to me on that level, and as a result, the personal goes out the window, and all of a sudden, it's about numbers, it's about data, it's about facts, and it's depersonalizing. It's a freedom, a freedom of the eradication of animosity, the eradication of skepticynism, cynicism. Oh yeah, I know you're going to do this, but I know why, because as a business owner, I might try to do the same thing here, I might have thought about the same thing there, And as a result of that, it's left me free to be able to sit in front of people that I once may have deemed to be a bit shady or whatever the case may be, and have absolutely no problem with them whatsoever, because now I've edified myself even more. Is that what business did for you? Do you believe that's what business can do for the American citizen in this day and age?
You know, it's so amazing. So a couple nights school we're having a meeting kid with our sales team, and I said, when I was twenty three, twenty four years old, and I'm staying at the office till midnight and I'm coming in early, And I would tell myself.
No one sees this. Do people not realize I'm giving my best? How do you not see me running six days a week. I'm not getting the recognition you're having this conversation, Right, I'm somebody. I'm going to be somebody one day.
Right. And then eventually you realize in life you have two things you're flirting with. One is what's better for me to be a man of character or for me to have a strong reputation. Right, Like when you think about a president, you want them to be liked, loved, feared or respected. I don't care if you're loved. You shouldn't love the opponent, shouldn't love the president, should probably like them to negotiate with them. But I prefer fear and respect. But those four things, it's not applied to everything. Like your wife, you want your wife to fear you. It's different elements in different places. Right. So I used to sit there and listen to John Wooden's you know quota by character and reputation. Well, reputations what other people think about you, but characters who you really are, right, like, focus on your character, not the reputation. I think both matters. So watch what happens. One day. I'm in Atlanta, twenty five years old. I become a broker in the insurance game. And I'm at the Lute, Georgia, and we're in this training and we leave the event and they take our one hundred brokers and we're going to Atlanta for dinner. And if you know that road, it's a two hour traffic. It's terrible coming all the way down from the Lute. In the bus we're driving, I'm on the phone straight two hours. Just call my clients and call my sales guests for two hours straight. I'm on the phone, next call, next call, next call, and I don't speak, so I'm loud, so you people are looking at me like what an annoying guy? This is right? And then we get to the restaurant, we have dinner, and then we come back up and I'm on the phones again for two hours because I'm his coast. Look at this guy showing off like yeah, like as if you work like this all the time. Seven eight years ago, I get an email from one of the guys I was on the bus and he says, you may not remember me, but I was on that bus one day when we were driving back, and I was part of the crowd that said, look at this arrogant guy making all these calls, thinking like, you know those old earpiece stuff that we used to put on. You know what a show off you are, like, acting like you're better than us, he says. And I realized twenty years later, you weren't showing off, you were actually making calls and look at us now, right. He's kind of being very transparent about it. So meaning if you do the right thing and you're showing up with data, you're treating people fairly. Of course you're going to create enemies in the way, but enough people going to realize who you are, and they're going to tell the story behind closed doors, and eventually all those guys behind closed doors are going to say, listen, man, I don't know about like the other day, we're at the house and we're having dinner. This was like a couple months ago, and you're like, yeah, he's been with me for nineteen years. How have you guys been together for this spend years. Oh when he was chosen as secure and I said, no, I want him to be the one, not the other one. Remember this whole story that we're having a conversation. How long has she been with you? Well, it used to be somebody else, but I said, I want her. How long has she been with you? Eighteen years?
What? Yeah?
Why are they with you for this long? People don't sit for eighteen nineteen years if you don't treat him properly. These are the stories that eventually come out where somebody realizes. So if you do your part properly, if you come through and the numbers validates, eventually the entire market's going to sit there and say, look, okay, how much shit you want to talk about this person? He's a real McCoy.
Your podcast is done in a vault? Yes, Why so I.
Host an event once you call the vault? Because to me, everything in life is trying to crack the code. Okay, right, you're trying to crack the code. And so years ago I told Mario I have a book coming out a month of September, a fiction book I've been working on for thirteen and a half years.
Wow.
It's about a secret society that recruits young people and develops some into the future leaders of the world and have access to certain technology that nobody else has. They can sit there and literally have a three hour conversation with people that have been dead for centuries, and you're asking them questions and they're giving you the answers as if they're alive today. Have an access to today's content and what's happened in history. So take any world leader that's dead and imagine having a combo with them. That's how they shape these great leaders in the future. Right. So anyways, that book is coming out in the next few months. The book is called The Academy, but the cover of the book is a vault. Everything to me is in life. All I'm trying to do is remember one time I asked you a question When I was interview I asked you a question and says, so, CVNA, what do you do when you're about to call out somebody and you know you're going to go hard on them the next day? What do you do to still maintain that relation and do your job without pissing them off so they keep talking to you. If there's other stories you want to get their calls. Do you remember what you told me?
I don't remember.
I'll never forget what you say. I've told this story so many times. You said, if I know I'm going to go hard on somebody, I will simply call them and I'll say, brother, don't watch the show tomorrow. Just don't watch the show tomorrow because I'm going to get my strong opinions. You may want to skip it tomorrow, yes, and I.
Can help that.
I'm telling you tomorrow, I'm going to go You know, magic's your friend, so you imagine go way back. Sometimes you got to give your feedback though, right, whatever you think about what's going on in the NBA, that may defer what he has to say. Right. So I'm just trying to crack the code for what stephen A does. That's transferable knowledge to me. What can I get from him or from him or from him? If we can keep collecting that, then we put that in our vault. Now, our vault is accessible to so many different formulas in life. That's good for marriage, business, life, negotiation, communication. Now my arsenal, now my strengths are getting better and better, and I'm more useful in the marketplace.
What do you believe is the greatest code that needs to be cracked in the United States of America at this particular moment, it's on.
In the United States of America. Well, we have so much data. I don't I just don't think we look we want to look at the data. I think we're we are so much feeling driven that we are more concerned about feeling than actual data. You know how easy? For example, do you know who Jim Simons is?
I do not.
I'll give you the greatest, one of the greatest stories in the financial services industry ever. Jim Simon's is a guy that worked for the NSA for three years. He's a brilliant mathematician. He cracks the code on the way to see what Russia is doing. Right. Three years after working for the NSA, they fire him. Why because he says I disagree publicly in an interview he said, I disagree with else going to the Vietnam War. Boem, You're fired, NSA. You're out of here, all right, no problem. He goes and becomes a professor I think at Harvard. He goes and dabbles in Ai. In nineteen eighty two, this guy named Jim Simons two. In eighty two, Stephen A. Stephen in eighty two recruits a guy from MIT. He says, I want to revolutionize the entire financial industry. Creates a company called Renaissance Technology. Okay, they developed the software to trade stocks in ways that's never been done before. Everybody said, you're delusional. In nineteen eighty eight, he starts a fund called the Medallion Fund. Okay, the Medallion Fund. First year without AI, they lose four percent. Next year they do fifty five percent. Over the lifetime of the fund from nineteen eighty eight till today, I'll give you a very basic way to see how they destroy the marketplace. If you put a dollar in SMP five hundred and nineteen eighty eight, it's forty two dollars today. If you put a dollar in Berkshire halfaway with Warren Buffett in nineteen eighty eight, it's one hundred and fifty four dollars today. But if you would have put a dollar in the Medallion Fund in nineteen eighty eight, you know how much it's that today forty four thousand dollars Wow. Annual rate of turn of sixty nine percent net rate of return to their investors of thirty nine percent. They crushed it so well with this AI. That's a secret AI. They don't have anybody, They don't give access to anybody that Guess what they said nineteen ninety five they said, we're not taking new money anymore on this fund. You know what they did in two thousand and five they called all their clients that said, hey, take your money out moving forward. This fund is only for current and previous employees. We're not taking new money anymore. Medallion Fund destroyed it. The founder died earlier. This year's we're thirty billion dollars. Warren Buffett and Charlie Munger speak so highly about these guys. What do they figure out? Data driven? They didn't do feelings. They did data. We're too caught up right now in feelings. If we actually looked at data, we'd realize why people are struggling financially. We'd realize why marriages are not working out. We'd realize why so many people are single not wanted to get married. We'd realize why our birth rate right now is one point six to the worst it's ever been in a history of America. We'd realize why two states in America the last four years have lost a trillion dollars of assets under management that left their states. One is California, one is New York. And we have two states that have received been the beneficiaries of that trillion dollars. One has been Texas, one has been Florida. Data tells everything. With data, you can tell whether your policies are right or wrong because data validates it. But that's not how it's ranted. Everything's about feelings today. So if we went away from feelings one to data, we'd be able to solve more problems.
Got you A lot of people say that about our two parties. One's more just about numbers and the others about feelings. People say that all the time, but we'll have that discussion for another day. Everyone knows I demand excellence and I'm in it to win it. So that's why I've teamed with Prize Picks, America's number one fantasy sports app, to turn my sports knowledge into some big time money. In case you already didn't know, Prize Picks is a daily fantasy app where you choose two, three, or even up to six of your favorite players and then simply pick more or less on their projected stats. It honestly takes less time than it does for Asian Wilson to dribble up the court and hit that long range game winning three point shot. Every basket, every strikeout, every goal gets bigger each and every single week. So download the Prospects app today and join a community of more than three million members, and if you do, prize picks will match your first time depositive up to one hundred dollars. Yeah that's right, you heard me. So go toprospects dot com right now and use code says my initials. Of course, in case you didn't figure that out, just use promo codeesas on Prospects to receive a first deposit match up up to one hundred dollars, and then let the games begin. Prize picks pick more, pick less. It's really that easy. Before I let you get on out of here and thank you so much for your time, I got to ask you. I'm gonna go one by one from them people that you've interviewed, and I want you to tell me what comes to your mind. O. The late great Kobe Bryant.
Dude, it was like the coolest moment because right before we hit the stage. He comes in and you know, he looks at me. We start talking, talk to my wife for fifteen minutes, talks to my son for ten minutes, and he says, so, how many people are going to be out there? So six thousand people said, you get nervous before he eats up of interviews? I said, no, see I Meani does. Of course, you know, you play in front of everybody. And then all of a sudden, this lady shows up and probably in her early seventies, white lady, and they hug each other as if it's his grandma, and they have the most pleasant conversation right next to us. We're watching them, and then we go hit the stage and we do the interview, and we have the combo together and we leave afterwards. There was a bond like we actually were communicating. I don't know what it would have turned into, but we were communicating. Now. That was my guy, man. I mean, I'm a diehard Kobe guy. I can't even describe it to you. It was one of my favorite conversations of my lifetime.
Conversations is what I meant to ask about not just you interviewing somebody, but other people interviewing you. Bill Maher I.
Didn't talk a lot, even though he interviewed me. He was the one talking club random, club random. I just sat there. I'm like, Okay, well maybe this is his way of doing therapy. It's a show.
I can't imagine you not talking a lot. No, I mean you're a great You're a great Orridor.
I mean, did you watch the show?
I want to let me tell you I got I had a good time when I was on there, but I caught a contact time because he was smoking weed the whole time. Whole time, and I mean I don't smoke weed, but I mean you'd have thought I did that day, the whole time.
No, I think he's a I think the last four years you got to give credit to him because he's brought up issues that other people don't have the audacity to do, and.
As a guy on the left, he's called them out. Yeah.
I wouldn't mind if we do another one without any weed involved.
Okay, there's this.
Guy on ESPN that would say the weed you know. I don't know if you've heard this guy or not. Yoh, yeah, he's interesting guy.
Roland Martin.
I actually really enjoyed it. I know it's gonna sound crazy. I actually really enjoyed talking to Roland because because he's a fighter and it's it's what makes it good. Like the guy by the way, maybe a little bit too much for himself. He sounds like he's super chaotic all the time. But I actually enjoyed having a discourse because it was boom boom, boom boom. It was from the moment we got started till the end of the podcast. It was a fight beginning to the end. And then once it was done, hey man, all right, cool, great boom was done. Joe Rogan one of a kind. He's the goat man. Joe to me is super likable and he's the goat at this everything that we're doing on podcast, there's no question about. But you know, like the other day, I went and watched old old Joe Rogan interviews. He did an old interview with Conan O'Brien, right, and I went and watched his interviews there to see how he was and then you seeing like the way he moves and what you know, just not sitting still and how quick he was and working with the audience and energy was just attractive. You know, he's a grown man now. But you see him at thirty four years old. He was He's always had a very attractive personality and the way he sold like that guy could have been a lawyer if he wanted to. He would be one hell of a debater. He could, he could, He would have done so many different things. But when you see where he's at right now, he's having a time of his life. Yeah, he's in a league of his own.
Who haven't you interviewed that?
You would love to Jimmy Carter, but it'll never happen Jimmy Carter. Oh yeah, I mean I'm in us because of Jimmy Carter. So Jimmy Carter would be one. I think some of the Iranian leaders I would be interested in. I'd be very interested in Putin. I'd be very interested in Bill Clinton. I'd like to sit down with Bill Clinton, you know, probably above many other names. Bill Clinton would be on that list. Yeah, I'm just for whatever is. I'm interested in a lot of these political leaders.
Barack Obama.
Barack Obama would be fascinating.
Hillary Clinton.
I'd love to talk to Hillary, but Bill more than Hillary. Because did you have a twenty thousand named roller dicks? You write all these guys cards, and I'm running for office and I'm looking for your support. I went to a city Hope, Arkansas, right because there was my wife's father died. My father in law died, so we went to Arkansas. I realized my wife went to the same elementary school that Bill went to. Okay, I'll tell you very weird story. While I'm there, I'm asking everybody, how was Bill?
We love them?
How is Bill? We love them? Why he's still personal? We would open the door?
He was?
He a womanizer? Yeah, you always liked the ladies. Did you guys have a problem with that? Now? But he was always cool with us. Okay, Interesting, We're in New York. I'm going to Yankees games. I take forty my guys. We get the big suite bomb rain out. Yankees games canceled. Here we go, So so what do we do? We go to this what's this place with the bull galley with everybody in New York goes to there's a name for It's a big facility games, all this stuff. What is it called? What's the name of it?
Got the name of it? If it was Philly, I'd say David Busts.
But you know what, I'm talking about right, yeah, what is it? Chelsea's Chelsea Chelsea, That's.
What it is.
So we go there and vincent O'shanna. You know vincent O'shanna. He's been on the pod before. So him and Tikren are asking me, Hey, Pat, who's the one person you'd love to have on the podcast. Steven A, I say, oh, Bill Clinton, you can count to five. Both of them say, get the get out of here. I said why. He said he just walked in. I said what. Stephen a five seconds later said who just walked in? He said Clinton just walked in. I said, no way. I look back. I'm like, oh shit, he just walked in. This guy's seventy nine eighty years old. I go up. We have a nice ten minute conversation to get his service. Guys, follow the content, you know. We did it for twent and a half hours. I could not believe this. This guy goes and shakes everybody's hand, he could shake in that place, and is listening to everybody but how old he is. For two and a half hours, he just going, oh, so, what's your story? Where are you from? Oh? And he's looking him in the eyes like this right, Wow, I want to know that story. I want to know upbringing. I want to know a few different things about him. Yeah, i'd want to interview Bill Clinton.
Very last question, Patrick Bett, David steven A. Smith. People like us that have our platforms available to us, that reach millions of people, what can we do moving forward to assist in helping them make the world a better place?
Man, I think you're doing it. And it's not easy, right, because everybody has their own selfish reasons why we vote or we do what we do. Okay. I used to look at everybody and I would give them a score, and I would give myself a score, and I would wonder what's the right place to be? And I wrote about it in my latest book, Choose Your Enemies Wisely, the selfish Index. So what is a selfish index?
Is, by the way, your first two books, your next five modes, Master of the Art of Business Strategy twenty twenty one and Choose Your Enemies Wisely. Business Planning for the Audacious Few just came out last year. So this is a third books.
Talking no, no, this is one. Chose the one you're talking about, Okay. In that book, when I would talk to my sales leaders sometime I sales like to kind of give this example that it makes sense. So one guy's like, I want to build a big agency and I want to do ten millionaire. I'm like, brother, every lead you ever get, you only want to keep it to yourself. You're selfish, but guess what, you're still a closer. So you're a ninety ten leader. Ninety percent of all the decisions you make is about you. Then I had guys that every lead they ever got, they would give it to everybody. And that guy's what. That guy's a ten percent selfish, ninety percent selfless, and he didn't set a good example because you have to be hungry to go compete. Right. So then eventually I the more and more I looked at everybody on who did well and who didn't do well. The more selfish leaders sixty five percent always did better because that bigger goals that were pursuing. But they had a balance of being selfish and selfless. Right in this position, you get paid, I get paid. There's money on the line. Everybody knows what's going on with where you're at right now with contracts. We all read about it. You know, there's a lot of money on the table for you've been busting your tail to get the pay day. It's it's being able to openly speak and willing to have the debate with opposition and given them the platform and let the audience think for themselves. When you did your first two episodes, when you did your podcast and you had Cuomo and Bill O'Reilly would have Hannity Hannity and then Cuomo right.
Yes, and I'm like freaking love it.
What seriously? Yeah, that's good. That's good because now I get to sit there and say, like, right now, watching your camera guys. Right, most of these guys are from New York. They probably don't agree with me politically. They're probably like the strip sitting here right now. I just look at his face, how read it is, Like, there's no way in the world I agree with Pati. I look at his face. I got ready. That guy doesn't like me, right. But the fact that you're putting this conversation out there, and they're going to have the conversation when they get in their uber and they leave and they say, f the sky, they're already texting each other. Look at this, right, they're communicating. I've been around the block. I freaking love it. The fact that that thought is in their minds for them to talk shit to me and debate. We're making progress. I'm very comfortable with that, and you're doing that right now. You got a lot of people that hate you when you say stuff. How could you say what you said about Biden? Could you take a position like why would you ever say something like this? And guess what, let the discussion begin. I'm in the business of making an appointment for the conversation, not in the business being right. I think you're doing that, and that's why I call you to go.
My man. What a non and privilege to talk to you, my brother. I appreciate it, my man, one lonely Patrick bed David. It was beautiful. We'll talk against I look forward to. As a matter of fact, I'm quite sure you'll be cold several weeks. That's it. But the Stephen A. Smiths, y'all, y'all. Talk to y'all next time. Later
