S2 E4: Ben Shive

In Season 2, Episode 4, Drew Miller talks with Ben Shive about his album, The Cymbal Crashing Clouds, and together they break down his song "The Fire Pit."

They discuss the scandal of parables, the indispensability of collaboration, and the implications of sabbath for the creative process.

The Second Muse

A great song is most often the result not of instantaneous inspiration, but of a long obedience to t 
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