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And that means once those pillows arrive, you start getting the kind of peace full and RESTful and comfortable and deep peeling and recuperative sleep that you've been aving and you certainly deserve my pillow dot com promo code, Hannity, you will love this pillow A right gladiate with us. I know you're angry, I know you're frustrated. I know you're annoyed. I know you feel betrayed. I feel exactly the same way that you do. I am not giving up. And it's, you know, certain things in life that you're gonna just have to fight for. And you know it's it's something that we shouldn't have to fight for because promises were made to us, and um, it just is what it is. I mean, you know, look, in all of life, you're gonna face trials, tribulations, obstacles, difficulties, things that you don't want to have to face, you know, And unfortunately, we've just got to pound our way through these things. And I got to give the president credit. He's now been meeting with the senators, I guess twice now, and they just finished a meeting and out of the meet they're gonna have this vote next week, a repeal vote. And what I took out of McConnell, and he was there with John Thune and Senator corner, and when I took out of his comments was, oh, we're gonna offer amendments, and let me interpret that in Washington speak. Oh, we'll try and bribe the four senators that told us they wanted to repeal it but now have gone backwards. Now this is where the frustration comes down to. For me, I actually, in my heart believe that this is working out better having a full repeal and and this was Rand Paul's idea a long time ago, and he was on the program. I said, yeah, I support that idea a dent. But it's just when we saw in the House that a hundred of the House Republicans had no intention of a real repeal and replace, I think now the pressure is gonna be so massive that they're gonna have to do it because they will lose their jobs in And I will name names, and we will names on this program, and we will make sure that you have the ability. Two, you will know full well every single person that promised to repeal Obamacare and then doesn't support it. And so it comes down and you've got these four senators, We're going to play them for you. Lisa Murkowski from Alaska, let's let's go one at a time. You know, Lisa Mkowski, this is when was this said? This was May of sen Murkowski's committed to repealing Obamacare cut two. Listen to this. Want to share with you today where I am at on healthcare reform. First of all, I remain committed to repealing the Affordable Care Act. And in Alaska we are down to to one provider in the individual market. The state has been forced to spend its extremely limited general fund dollars to stabilize that market, even as our premiums are are still rising. So you've got rising premiums, We've spent a lot of the state to attempt to stabilize and and we we have just one provider on the individual marketing. Okay, Lisa Murkowski, will you please explain to me why it is you supported that then? And how many of how many of these senators, Linda, we looked at it up this morning and I forgot, off the top of my head how many of them. Three of the four voted to repeal it. Every everybody but Collins Collins did not vote to repeal Okay, so everybody but Susan Collins vote. But we have Susan Collins on record saying she repeal Obamacare. Right, this is Let's go to Susan Collins. Next, we'll go out of order. Here. This is her in November. Let's play the longer cut, saying she will repeal Obamacare. Mr. President, Thousands Ofmainers are receiving notices that their health insurance it's being canceled to Obamacare. This past weekend, I talked with Mark pender Guests, the owner of a small landscaping company who just found out that the premiums for his small business plan will jump by fifty four percent next year due to Obamacare. He can't pay that and stay competitive, and his workers can't afford it either. Their share of the premium will go up by seven hundred forty dollars next year. One of the major reasons that I strongly opposed the Affordable Healthcare Act was that there was nothing affordable about it. I predicted it would lead to fewer choices and higher insurance costs for middle income families and small businesses. Congress must work together to address the very real healthcare concerns of the American people and the budget reality. Sweet face. Repealing Obamacare is poorly crafted and misguided. Mandates and replacing the law with a fiscally responsible reform bill that contains costs and provides more choices is the best path forward. Thank you, Mr President. No, thank you, mister President. So there you have, all right, So now we got Lisa Murkowski, then you got Susan Collins, all committed. Now Susan Collins didn't vote for repealing well, Lisa Murkowski did, and Rob Portman did, and Shelley Moore capital did you know. Let's listen to Shelley Moore. Let's listen to what she says about repealing Obamacare. Later this week, the Senate will consider a bill to repeal Obamacare, a costly disaster that four years later, six five years later, we see has cost countless people access to their doctor, access to their healthcare plan of their choice, and the thousands of West Virginians from my state who have lost or had to change their coverage. We ought to ask individuals and families whose premiums and deductibles have skyrocketed, and the small businesses who have been forced to cut hours and employees. Americans deserve a healthcare system that works for them, and we know that Obamacare is not it. There is a better way, Oh, there is a better way repealing Obamacare. Rob Portman, what a disappointment in Rob Portman, All right, listen to what he says in two thousand ten. Um, I don't think that many of my Democratic friends thought they were voting for a bill that would kill jobs. I really don't. I don't think they would have voted for it. I can't believe that they thought that Obamacare would drive up premium costs and make health care harder to get as it has. But that is what's happening, and that's why I believe it needs to be repealed and replaced. Today here in the United States Senate and tomorrow sorrow, as we debate this and vote on it, we've got a chance to move the ball forward and show people that at least a majority here in the United States Congress agree we have to address this issue. Uh. This vote will show that there's some here in Congress who are listening and have some answers. Our job is to do what's right, and that's the past this legislation to repeal and replace Obamacare, to give us a chance to get rid of some of the most detrimental aspects of it that are eliminating jobs. That are pushing healthcare costs higher and higher. Oh yeah, well they've gone higher and higher. Now I'm not sure how this is. I'm going to tell you what I predict is gonna happen, and this is very key. I'm going to predict that they're gonna have the emotion on the floor of the Senate next week, and they're gonna push to get this done. And then what they're gonna do is what what Congress always does and will frustrate the living hell out of all of us. Then they're gonna start bribing those few senators they need to get this thing over the finished line. I'm just I'm just telling you. Then they're gonna bulk it up with extra spending that is unnecessary and blow the budget out on it to get it done. With that said, let's see how bad it is and let's see in the end if we can support it. Here's the problem. You know, Washington doesn't work the way all of you go about your daily life. You know, there's a reason. On this program, we have been talking to Dr Josh umber since do you really that's five years we have been trying to show and we know Washington listens to this program and watch his Hannity for five years, we have tried to tell them, for fifty dollars a month, you get unlimited concierge care, a doctor on call twenty four seven, you have his cell phone number. Everything is included in the fifty dollars a month. That dr number negoti gates directly with the pharmaceutical company. So if you walk out of his office and you have high blood pressure, your medicine goes with you at discount. If you have a cholesterol issue, you walk out with your medicine and you go back to the office to get the medicine, or they just mail it to you, which is a smart thing to do. That includes stitches, that includes broken bones, that includes X rays and procedures, and it's all fifty bucks a month. Now, that is concierge care for the men and women in this country that make the country great. And he's been able to duplicate his mod, his specific model. I think they've they've done over three four and practices around the country, and then other people have come up with the same innovation. It's not brain surgery. If you have kids, it's only ten bucks a month, and then a discount if they have an ear infection for the bubblegum medicine that they have to take, and then you get a free follow up visit and that's all included in your ten dollars a month for your child. I mean it's crazy. Now you couple that with catastrophic care. Atastrophic carender Obamacare is illegal. Can you imagine catastrophic cares what every twenty and thirty year old needs. It incentivizes a check up a year. You have. The higher the deductible, then the less the premium is every month, if you can afford, say a ten tho dollar deductible, you're gonna pay less. But that's catastrophic care. That's what insurance is. If you have the bad accident, if you have a heart attack at a young age, which very few people do, if you have cancer, God forbid, then you're covered. Everything's going to be covered once you pay the initial deductible. That's what insurance is all about. You know what if you if you have insurance in your car, it's if you have an accident, and then if you have insurance, let's say you don't necessarily have to have insurance on your particular vehicle, but if you have insurance on your vehicle, then you hand it over the insurance company say give me a new one, and that's how it usually works out. Or they'll give you a settlement offer depending on the age of your car. And that's what insurance is for. And that's how insurance works. And so the most fresh reading thing and all of this is all of these years, give us the House, give us the Senate, give us the White House, and we're going to repeal and replace Obamacare. You know, all of these same people promise this. Now I don't know. I mean, none of us are perfect. We've all sinned, we've all fallen short of the glory of God. I got it. But this is such a big promise. I can't understand why this is not rock solid deal done. And it should have been done in January when Donald Trump became the president, and it could have been done. And then when you look at the history and you've got since eleven, the Republican controlled House voted sixty to sixty eight times to repeal and delay or defund parts of Obamacare. Well, where's the action now? So those were show votes to make us think that they were going to do something they never had any intention to do well. That's called bait and switch. That's called fraud. Now it's the moment of truth. Now it matters, and Republicans want to be successful in You know, I keep telling you this is one of the four big things they need done. They need at least two three miles of the border wall built. They need Obamacare repealed and beginning the transition to replacement. There needs to be an energy revolution where millions of high paying career jobs take place. And then, of course we need the president's economic plan. Not that hard. What's the president's economic plan? The President's economic plan is okay, middle class tax scots, corporate tax scots, repatriation, energy independence, and we get the economy moving again. Alright. Eight Shawn is our toll free telephone number. You want to be a part of the program. Covert operative. Mitch Rapp is ready for anything, but this time the enemy is ready for him. Read Order to Kill, the explosive new novel in Vince Flynn's number one New York Times best selling Mitch rap series. Because of unscrupulous members of the Pakistani Secret Service, finds himself chasing false leads in an effort to keep Pakistani nukes from falling into the hands of terrorists. Soon, it becomes alarmingly clear that the forces in Moscow are bent on fomenting even more chaos and turmoil in the Middle East, and Rap must go deep into a racky territory, posing as an American ISIS recruit. There he uncovers a plan more dangerous and insidious than he ever expected, one that could have far reaching and catastrophic consequences. 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And if you can lower premiums and create competition, and you've create free market competition, then you're gonna end up with better services because you have more companies competing for your healthcare dollars. It's not any more complicated than that, all right, I see that Jamie Dupre wrote me is updating me on healthcase. At bottom line is GOP healthcare plan not dead? Floria talks underway on Capitol Hill to come up with a plan they can get the needed votes for senator approval. Group of Senators a meeting tonight. If they can revive a plan to repeal replace. Oh good grief, these people are frustrating. I'd rather just repeal the thing and let's go from there. GOP leaders say there will be a vote next week to start debate on the healthcare on the Center floor motion to proceed. The idea of repeal only and then way to replace is now. Lamar Alexander said he thought it might not get forty votes. Who were the other people. Oh, good grief, this is so frustrating, This is so there's so pathetic these people that you know, it's not an option here, It's just not an option. After all these years, this is the position we find ourselves in. It's what's today's day. It's July, and now we're now we're still fighting for the number one promise that they made for seven years. You know, I keep saying, I like my idea. I want to I want these people in a room together. I want to take away their air conditioning. I really do. I want our founders and framers didn't have air conditioning, you know. I put them in a room, throw their phones away so they can't be leaking the whole time they're in there. I'll send some beer and pizza and Wendy's and Hamburgers and KFC. I'll send it all in. We'll send in coke and sprite water and sit there and let him sweat until they and put up on the on a big blackboard promises made to the American people and serving the American people. And you know what if they can't get it done at that point, and then get a new leader, find somebody and keep him in the room and don't let him out. Maybe give him one minute bathroom break every six hours. Take a quick break. We'll come back eight hundred Senator Ted Cruz when we get back. As we continue Sean Hannity Show till the top of the hour nine for one, Shawn, if you want to be a part of the program. Senator Ted Cruz has been doing some pretty amazing work. I mean, all throughout the healthcare debate in the House, he was working arm in arm with the Freedom Calucuse guys, and he's been working. You know, there's certain people that have a sense of urgency, certain people that roll up their sleeves, certain people that actually get things done, and all throughout you know, the time. I can't tell you how many hours. I remember the day that it failed in the House, and I talked to Mark Meadows that Friday, and he was going home and he was depressed and he's upset, and I said, well stop you just now, you roll up your sleeves, you dig in harder, and God bless Mark Meadows and Jim Jordan's and then they were working very closely with Senator Cruz and a few others in the Senate and and they got it done. It wasn't perfect, but it was far better than what we have. And it was focused on premium reduction, which is what Senator crew is the exact thing that he was able to pull off in the Senate, which was a great audition. By the way, Senator cruises with us. Now, High Senator, how are you, John? Good afternoon, and good to be with you. I don't you like when you're listening on the line and I'm saying something nice about a politician and it happens to be you. Well, it looks all right. So here's what I want to ask you. Um, well, let's go through. There was a really, really good study and I thought it was very well deserved because I know the amount of time and effort that you put into this. And it was in the Washington Examiner, and it was a Health and Human Services analysis finding that your amendment lowered premiums, boosted enrollment, and offered better care. That that that's exactly right. So HHS studied the Consumer Freedom Amendment and add to assess what the impact would be and they compared it to Obamacare and and the differences are striking. What what they found is that the consumer Freedom Amendment, which is the amend and I drafted that says you, the consumer should have the freedom to choose the insurance you want to purchase what you want. It shouldn't be the federal government mandating what you have to buy. You should be able to decide what you and your family need. And and the way it works is it if people want to buy plans that are subject to all the Obamacare mandates, they can They'll still be those plans on the market, but they could also buy additional plan ends that meet their families needs. And what HHS found is the Consumer Freedom Amendment increases enrollment by two point two million people in the year four. Obamacare, the baseline is projected to be thirteen point nine million. With the Consumer Freedom Amendment, thirteen point nine rises to sixteen point one million people in the individual market. That's an increase of two point two million people that are additionally getting health insurance. But not only that, the impact on premiums is dramatic. So HHS projects that under Obamacare, the average premium per person per month will be eight hundred and forty five dollars. Under the Consumer Freedom Amendment, the average premiums for plans with the Obamacare mandates drops from eight forty five down to three eighty dollars, which is a decrease of five thousand, five hundred eighty dollars a year. And even more incredibly, the Freedom plans, the plans that are outside of the mandates, those dropped to two hundred and forty dollars a month from to forty How do you pull this off? It is it's the power of freedom and competition that that saves people over seven thousand dollars a year, seven thousand, two hundred and sixty dollars a year. It is a seventy two decrease in premiums, which is a win win for everyone. That is a phenomenal you know, one of the things for all these years, Center, I've had this guy. He's gonna be on at the top of the next hour, Dr josh Umber. I don't know if you've ever seen him or heard him on my radio show or seeing him on TV, but this guy is amazing. You know, for fifty dollars a month, you get unlimited care, and he negotiates directly with pharmaceutical companies and that he gets a ninety six percent reduction, and then he offers kids at ten bucks a month. And if you add a catastrophic planed tool with a reasonably a medium high deductible of five thousand dollars or so that covers accidents, cancer, and a heart attack, you're you're totally covered for like a hundred and fifty two a month. And it's like, what where is government thinking through the process of what you went through? What I know that guys like Jim Jordan and Mark Meadows work with you on in the House bill, and what guys like Dr Josh Umber are doing well, it's basic free market principles. It's economics one oh one that if you want lower prices, you want more choices, more competition. If you want higher prices, you want fewer choices and less competition. And that's what Obamacare does. It allows fewer choices, which has caused premiums to skyrocket. The average families premiums under Obamacare have risen over five thousand dollars a year. And you know, one way of analyzing it, it would be like the federal government mandating that the only cars that can be sold in America are fully loaded Cadillacs, and and that lets politicians say see everyone gets a fully loaded Cadillac. Well that's great if you have the money to buy a Cadillac. But if if you don't happen to have the resources to do that, you know, you might be happy getting your little VW Bug, which maybe it's not a fancy Cadillac, but it will get you to work. I bought two hundred dollar Vans and three Ford Mavericks, and I fixed them myself because I had no money. I know exactly what you mean. And by the way, I was happy to have a car that works sure, and and and let people, let people have choice and freedom. That that's how the marketplace works. And and the fundamental flaw behind Obamacare is is the federal government telling you, Sean, you don't get to pick your health insurance. We're going to tell you the only options you can get and and we're going to drive up the costs in the process. That that doesn't work. And it's why so many people are hurting under Obamacare. And when it even got worse than that, because you were taking young people and as if we haven't stolen enough money for future generations, and you forcing them to buy plans they never wanted, never needed, instead of like a catastrophic plan and which is illegal under Obamacare, which is unbelievable. And then they were subsidizing the poor and the uninsured and the elderly, which is not their job. That you are exactly right. No one was more hammered under oboniccare than young people. And it jacks up their premiums, sometimes doubles or triples their premiums, not to care for their healthcare, but to use them to cross subsidize other people. And it's really unfair to young people. Consumer Freedom Amendment solves that, and and the Consumer Freedom Amendment is in the current draft of the Senate bill. In addition, there's another amendment I drafted, which is allowing people to use health savings accounts to pay insurance premiums. That's illegal right now. What that means is immediately for millions millions of Americans, that is an effective reduction in your pre me ums, depending on whatever you're marginal tax rate is, you can pay your premiums with pre tax dollars. That's immediate bank for the buck, right and the get going that is in the bill right now. It's the provision I drafted. Those two together really have an impact helping people be able to afford the health insurance that you know your family want need. Senator I read years ago patient Power, Musgrave and Goodman out of the Cato Institute. I've been preaching this for years. It's refreshing. Um let me ask you, this is the repeal only dead because of these four senators Um, Capital and Murkowski, Importman and Collins. That is it dead? Are you now back to negotiating the other deal? And do you think I was surprised, Mike Lee, I know he's a friend of yours. I was surprised he bailed out because of your provision. Yeah, you know, look, I continue to believe we can get this done. We all left having lunch with the President at the White House, and and I want to ask you about that too. How did that go? It was a very good lunch. The President hosted that the Vice president was there, the Secretary of HHS Tom Price was there, and you had all or virtually all of the Republican senators were there. Uh. And it was a good two two and a half hour discussion that was that was media. It was substantive, and I think we're making real progress that that that we're moving towards coming to agreement. It's not easy to bring together fifty out of fifty two Republicans. There there's some wide, wide differences in the conference. But I believe we can get it done. And I think it was helpful for the President to host that and really to urge everyone to come together and get it done. And I think the key to unity, to unifying the Republican Conference, to bring in together conservatives and moderates and everyone on the same page, is focusing like a laser on reducing premiums, because that that's a win for everybody. And so that's that's what I've been trying to do, is really focus everyone's attention and on lowering premiums. And I think we're making real progress in that, right. I watched your interview on Fox immediately after the White House meeting today, and you said what I've been saying, and that failure is not an option. And uh, you know, look, I could tell you right now the anger in my audience beyond palpable, and and the and the argument is and by and you were right. You know, we learned a lot in and I remember I supported you. You went to the Senate floor and you rightly said we have constitutional authority and power. It's the power of the purse. And instead of the sixty eight votes that they had since eleven to repeal, defund, and do this, and do that, it was all show votes. And we learned that when the House was debating, or like a hundred of Republicans that never had any intention of keeping that promise, because when it meant something, they did nothing. And then you were excoriated for saying, we can get it done now, and you became the bad guy. And then they started predicting, oh, look with Ted Cruz, if we lose, in is his fault. But yet in reality, you were the only principal person saying, well, I'm here to keep my promise. Well, and not only did we not lose, we won big and we were fired. Nine Democratic senators retired, Harry read his majority leader and took the Senate, and then we won big and and front and center in those elections was the promise to repeal Obamacare. I think we have to honor that promise, and if we fail to do it, having the White House in both Houses of Congress, I think every one of us will look like fools. And I don't want that to happen. I am working night and day to try to bring let's honor our promise. You know, and you may not even know this, but when the House hit the same road bump or that you're hitting. I spent a lot of time on the phone with the Freedom Caucus guys. And there were nights I was talking to them at one two in the morning and they were talking to you on the other line at one and two in the morning. And you don't even a member of the House. But what you were trying to do is get a bill that would also work in the Senate so that that you wouldn't get to conference and have a blow up there, right, And the Freedom Caucus did a terrific job of the House. They the leaders Mark Meadows, Jim Jordan's are are good principal guys that they're good friends and and and they improve the bill in the House. Uh. And I think the bill has improved significantly in the Senate, adding the Consumer Freedom Amendment and hs as for premiums. Both of those are major provisions that lower lower premiums and and that's a big win. Does that bring Mike Lee back on board? Does this bring Rand Paul on board? Does this bring Susan Collins, Importman and and Markowski and Capital on board? You know, from from everything I've seen Ran Paul and Susan Collins, I think you're gonna be nos almost regardless of what we do. Well, that's it. We don't have any more margin, so we we If we lose those two votes, we can't lose anybody else. Um, you know, I am hopeful. I know Mike Lee wants to support the bill. He and I have worked very closely. I'm gonna call him and start yelling at him and beat him up. Oh look, Mike guy. I like Mike Lee. I'm just kidding. I mean, you want me to start yelling at him? No, no, no, no. Look. Look, Mike's disagreement is with one aspect of the Consumer Freedom Amendment, which is which is a concession that I had to make to get it into the bill, which is to require that that plans on the exchanges and Freedom Plans all be in the same risk pool. And he points out that that that ends up not reducing premiums for the Freedom plans as much as as we could. Um, and that's right. I agree with him. I'd rather it with two risk pools. That's how I drafted it initially. But with the single risk pool we end up saving people with freedom Plans seven thousand, two D and sixty. It's an amazing that's passing and going to too risk pools saves an additional six six, so it takes it from hundred. That's good. Um, you know, I think Mike is working productively and trying to get to yes, and I think he has getting him on the program. And I'll yell at him, although he doesn't take my calls like he used to. But all right, let me ask you one final question. So you're up for re election in right, I am. Does my endorsement help you or hurt you? Because absolutely, I look at you, I enthusiastically indorse you for re election. We need you in the Senate, we really do. I mean, you have been a leader and a principal conservative all these years. I know people thought we went sideways during the election. We did not. I've always loved Ted Cruz and I could tell people all the time and it frustrated me to no end. But you know, honestly, if we don't have people like you in the Senate, we're we're dead. We really need you well, Sean Shan, thank you, and you know you endorsed me early in the primary when I first ran for Senate in and I'm grateful for your friendship and I'll come down and do anything you need, because if we don't have Ted Cruises in the Senate, we're just we're done. I appreciate it very much. And and if your listeners agree, our our website is Ted Cruise dot org. Ted Cruise dot org, Ted Cruise dot org. Alright, Senator, it's always a pleasure. Thank you for being with us, and thanks for what you're doing on this. We've got to get it done. Failure is not an option, and we'll follow it. It's frustrating as hell, but we've got to get it done. Eight one Sean are toll free telephone number. You want to be a part of the program. When we come back, we're going to check in with Sarah Carter, Greg Jarrett. Amazing details that nobody in the media is covering about Hillary Clinton and corrupt quick break right back, we'll continue. Alright, Imagine for a second that the FBI is asking you for your phones and your devices to hand over, and you take a hammer and you smash them, or you hand them over with out the sim cards. Well, new information from the FBI shows that Hillary Clinton did just that. Why is the media ignoring it? That's called obstruction of justice? Greg Jarrett Sarah Carter Next. Later on, we'll get to a lot of your calls today and more on healthcare, our top story. I want to share with you today where I am at on healthcare reform. First of all, I remain committed to repealing the Affordable Care Act. In in Alaska, we are down to to one provider in the individual market. The state has been forced to spend its extremely limited general fund dollars to stabilize that market, even as our premiums are are still rising. So you've got rising premiums. We've spent a lot of the state to attempt to stabilize and and we we have just one provider on the individual market. Later this week to set up will consider a bill to repeal Obamacare, a costly disaster that four years later, six five years later, we see has cost countless people access to their doctor, access to their healthcare plan of their choice. And the thousands of West Virginians from my state who have lost or had to change their coverage. We ought to ask individuals and families whose premiums and deductibles have skyrocketed, and the small businesses who have been forced to cut hours and employees. Americans deserve a healthcare system that works for them, and we know that Obamacare is not it. There is a better way. In two UM, I don't think that many of my Democratic friends thought they were voting for a bill that would kill jobs. I really don't. I don't think they would have voted for it. I can't believe that they thought that Obamacare would drive up premium costs and make healthcare harder to get as it has. But that is what's happening, and that's why I believe it needs to be repealed and replaced. Today here in the United States Senate and tomorrow as we debate this and vote on it, we've got a chance to move the ball forward and show people that at least the majority here in the United States Congress agree we have to address this issue. Uh. This vote will show that there's some here in Congress who are listening and have some answers. Our job is to do what's right, and that's the past. This legislation to repeal and replace Obamacare to give us a chance to get rid of some of the most detrimental aspects of it that are eliminating jobs, that are pushing healthcare costs higher and higher. One of the major reasons that I strongly opposed the Affordable Healthcare Act was that there was nothing affordable about it. I predicted it would lead to fewer choices and higher insurance costs for middle income families and small businesses. Congress must work together to address the very real healthcare concerns of the American people and the budget reality. Sweet face. Repealing Obamacare's poorly crafted and misguided mandates and replacing the law with a fiscally responsible reef warm bill that contains costs and provides more choices is the best path forward. Thank you, Mr President. Alright, our to Shawn Hannity Show. There you have all the Big four Susan Collins repeal Obamacare, Rob Portman repeal Obamacare, Kelley Moore Capital repeal Obamacare, Lisa Murkowski repeal Obamacare. It's unbelievable, you know. So you've got four people. Now every other person that made the promises willing, the President's willing to sign it. I've been here just six months. I'm ready to act. I have pen in hand. To believe me, I'm sitting in that office. I have pen in hand. You never had that before. You know, for seven years you had an easy route, will repeal, will replace, and he's never gonna sign it. But I'm signing it. So it's a little bit different. But I'm ready to act. For seven years, you promised the American people that you would repeal Obamacare. People are hurting in action is not an option. And frankly, I don't think we should leave town unless we have a health insurance plan, unless we can give our people great healthcare. The House will go along with it, the center will go along with it. We'll get rid of this monstrosity, which I think works how better in the end. Anyway, I didn't like the house built, particularly that much. Wasn't everything we wanted. Anyway, here to comment and go through all of this with us. Betsy McCoy probably knows more about Obamacare than anybody else in the country. And Dr Josh Umber, whose life I ruined, who runs the Atlas m D practice in Wichita, Kansas and now has devoted his whole life to doing the Sean Hannity Show and go into Congress. How are you both? That's great, well, very good, thank you. What is your take? You know, Betsy McCoy, this is a disaster. It is a disaster. And let me point out that if members of Congress we're feeling the same pain as the rest of us, like the eighteen million people in the individual market who have plans that are unaffordable with deductibles that are sky high. Another eight million people, Sean who are paying a penalty, the average penalty now for not having Obamacare because they can't afford it. But members of Congress aren't feeling that pain despite what the Affordable Care Act says. The Act actually requires that members of Congress purchased their coverage on the Obamacare exchanges and followed the same rules as the rest of us. But wouldn't you know it, President Obama set up a way for them to weasele out of that legal requirement. So these members of Congress, including the hypocrites you just heard from, right, they get to choose from fifty seven gold plans and have us John Q Public and Jane que Public pick up most of the tab And that's one of the reasons Sean that they don't feel the urgency to do something about this because they're not feeling the pain. Well, I think that's all true. And by the way, did you say that they're thinking about not themselves, that they're not even uh going to apply the new laws to them selves. It's just unbelievable. It is unbelievable. And Madison warned us was fifty seven. He warned us two centuries ago that as soon as Congress starts passing laws that they're not willing to live by themselves, that is the end of freedom. It really is. Get on, Dr Number, I have you on the program. I didn't. I didn't realize until the last time you were on that I started interviewing you back in I didn't even know. It's been five years. I've known you for five years. We have been telling people that there's a there's a better way that there that it's working. You know, here you are, you're dedicating your life to your patients, and every doctor I know it does the same thing. I have a great respect doctors sacrifice a lot and and they save lives. Every doctor I know works for people for free because they can't afford every doctor. They don't even question it. It's they write off half the people they do now. But the point is that you've figured out a way that that every American can have concierge care, doctor availability twenty four seven. And yet you know, you go and talk to these idiots and wash Ington and they still can't get it. I don't understand it. I agree, especially after your explanation on on it yesterday. There's a huge outpouring of questions and the people want this um. They're they're calling, their texting, their emailing, they're asking us to find a doctor in their area because this just makes sense. But somehow that the same senators who said they would vote to repeal it now won't vote to repeal it are the same ones who just can't understand that this is a better model. It actually means less government, more free market, but more options. Now poor patients get medicine for opinion a pill too. That's great for them. And it's I think sad and frustrating that we're not penetrating farther into the DC mindset. I guess. Let me point out that although the Congress seems to be at a standstill because of the holdouts, these actually there are five or six senators now who are balking at the idea of supporting repeal because they don't want to repeal Medicaid the Medicaid expansion. Let me point out that there is a way to offer relief to the millions of people were talking about who are stuck in these Obamacare plans. They're unaffordable, they no longer have a choice of doctors where they're paying these penalties. The Affordable Care Act is really two laws glued together. One is the Medicaid expansion that's where most people who were uninsured got their coverage, and the other is this federal takeover of insurance laws that used to be done by the state. It used to be the states that regulated them. So if those senators are holding out on the Medicaid change, they Congress should at least pass a repeal of the parts of Obamacare that regulate the commercial insurance market to give relief, choice and affordability again to the eighteen million people who are affected by those laws. I mean, east take half a loaf, Reagan said way back in the eighties. I can't get a tem percent tax cut, so I'm willing to settle for five. In the meantime, a half a loaf is better than nothing. They could pass half of a repeal bill today, Sean, and provide relief to all those people in the individual market who are being What did you make by the federal government? What did you make a McConnell's comments when he came out and said, all right, they're going to allow amendments to be in and they plan on getting on this next week. Is that his signal to these four senators that in fact that well, we'll give you, We'll give you what you need to get to get you over the hump. It may be he's got a lot to offer, and of course the president has virtually an unlimited ability to offer these senators things. But the fact is they voted for the repeal before, they should be willing to do it again. Yeah. I agree. You know how many people doctors around the country, Dr Umber, have you been able to sort of offer a tutorial to and and they've taken your council and they've been able to build their own co operatives. How many of these cooperatives now exist around the country. We've personally helped over three hundred doctors convert to this model. Um and just in May we had twenty four doctors convert, but there's probably up to you know, thousand doctors doing this model in some regard. But there's two hundred fifty primary care or family physicians, almost five hundred thousand family physicians primary care. We we have a long ways to go, um we you know, and it is growing and as doctors learn more, as patients learn more. It's really taken off in the last year or two. But we've got a long ways to go. And UM we need bad legislation to be removed to open up the floodgates allow um, you know, states to control this. If block granting medicate dollars from the federal government to the state makes sense because of less paperwork than paying your doctor directly because of less paperwork makes sense to UM if you if we can lower interest know, I just want to remind people though I if I lived in Wichita, you know, now that I've gotten to know you, I mean, I have to like my doctor, and I don't know if you'd be like my friend who is my personal doctor now, but he actually kidnaps me to to do a check up on me and then he never lets me go. And and it's because he loves me, and he knows that I'm not going to come in voluntarily. And although that's not true if I you know, one time I accidentally dropped a knife on my leg and I and I ripped it open. And then when I one day he sees me, we're playing golf and and he looks at my LEGO, what did you do as well? I dropped the knife on it yesterday. He looks at it. You needed fifteen stitchies, you idiot, And I said, yeah, but it wasn't bleeding that bad. And oh boy, anyway, but it was a pretty deep insurance premiums for small businesses they make of the job. We would have an economic boom that would last generations. I mean, this isn't a need, this is a must. I mean this, this is an essential thing that needs fixed to help the economy and help patient. All right, I just stay right there. We gotta take a quick break eight D nine for one, Shawn, you want to be a part of the program, alright. So the meeting with the president has ended, and now we had Mitch McConnell, the Senate majority leader. I'm mad at him too, because you know what they take their suite. You know what time in the Senate and look what happens, and they could have gotten has done a lot earlier. There's no sense of urgency with any of these people in Washington. We still have an economic plan to pass, we still have a wall to be built, we still have a hundred other issues to be dealt with, and we're still fighting over healthcare. Is beyond frustrating. And then we have four senators you know that are now holding out. Well, I don't know anyway. McConnell said there will be a vote and a motion to proceed and that's going to take place next week. We continue with Dr josh On Bury's with Atlas m d and Wichita Kansas and Betsy McCoy. What did you want to say, Betsy? I think competition, free markets. The Senators who so far refusing to go along with repeal are cowed by the demacoguery coming from the Democrats who have so misrepresented the changes to Medicaid. It's only fair to point that out right now the Democrats are saying we need to continually expand Medicaid. How much over half of all the women who give birth in the United States now send the bill to Medicaid. There are seventy four million people on Medicaid. That's twenty million more than on the universal healthcare program for the elderly, Medicare. And this rapid expansion of Medicaid is threatening to drown the nation and redding. It's already the largest item on many state budgets, so it's crowding out schools and roads and other needs. But the Democrats are unwilling to have a discussion about how big Medicaid should be. Well, I mean the thing that frustrates me if they end up, because they're going to offer amendments now in this bill, if they end up bulking it up with pork and bribery for these senators to do what they said they were going to do, and you know what, then it defeats the purpose, doesn't it already does? Do you know that? I laughed when I saw that the Senate bill included forty five billion dollars billion with a B for opioid opioid treatment. Now here's the here's the gist of that. That's why that's so astounding. That's ten times more than the federal government is allocating for breast cancer research. It is forty times more than the Obama administration allocated for opioid addiction research and treatment. And yet Chuck Schumer Senate Majority Senate Minority leader is still complaining it's not enough. It's just demagoguery. You know, I guess from your prospective doctor number, I mean, is somebody that successfully offers concierge service to every patient. You have over six patients. You have how many doctors in your practice? We have five or so? Okay, And so you got all these patients and you're doing it and you make it a pretty healthy living ring. And I mean that's the point. There's such a better way to do it. And you listen to these idiots in d C and it's frustrated. Must frustrate you. It is because like she was just saying, they're trying to throw money at a problem when that's not not the solution. We keep throwing money and then we keep getting worse healthcare outcomes for it um what they need. Like that's why we were excited that Trump, as a businessman would come in and bring business entrepreneurial thought process in here and streamline and cut burdens and regulation and focus on value and we could have a whole lot better healthcare system for a fraction of the price, if the Senators would just quit trying to grow the government. Alright, I gotta thank you both for being one of us. Dr Number I'm sorry I ruined your life. I still love you. Thank you. And uh, Betsy McCoy, have you ever gotten rid of that marked up copy of OBAMACAREY still have it in bed with you. We're going to repeal it, so it's on my desk. I want your copy because I want to burn it. I want to I want to get rid of it. If if they ever get rid of this thing, well let's hope that we never see a bill passed through Congress that big. Again. You're the only one that actually read the thing. All right, thank you both for being with us. All right, what about the forty two pages highly redacted documents FBI, Greg jareded Sarah Carter there next and then much more in your call straight ahead? Well it's odd. It's like we have this giant roar shack test where everyone sees inc plots and sees crimes everywhere. I mean, the criminal code has defined elements to it. You just don't find these ambiguous crimes. Some people have said this could be treason. For love of God, treason is defined in the Constitution. This is not treason. Other people have said this could be a Logan Act violation. Well, Logan Act has been used once in two hundred years and is facially unconstitutional. One said, well, if you take things of tangible value under the campaign laws and treat information like that, then maybe you have a campaign contribution violation. Well, yeah, but we haven't seen that done. You could also treat it like a panda and say it's an endangered species violation, but courts haven't done that. So I think that people need to take a breath. You know, this was a meeting where someone said they had evidence of a possible crime by the opponent of the Trump campaign. Um, they met with this person. I think a lot of people in the city view that as naive. I think a lot of people say, my god, why didn't you use a surrogate, which is how it's done in Washington. But that itself is not a crime. If you get something of value, and they are alleging that information from a value from a foreign national could be you know, stretched out to mean you know words. Is that something that's ever been prosecuted, of course not, and if it were to be prosecuted the First Amendment with Trump, a candidate has the right to get information from whatever source the information comes. It's very much like the New York Times publishing the Pentagon Papers case, or the Washington Post publishing materials stolen by Snowdon and Manning. You don't prosecute the newspaper. They of a First Amendment right, and you don't prosecute the candidate of the canadidate Son they have a First Amendment right to get the material. If the material was obtained unlawfully, you prosecute if you can, the people who obtained the material. But there is a First Amendment right of a candidate to use information, and so you can't include information under the campaign finance law. That would be on constitution. Let me ask you. I understand Hillary Clinton lost, and I understand this effort was not as elaborate as as as the Russian effort. But was it acceptable or wouldn't have been acceptable for the Democrats to accept help from the Ukrainian government in this campaign? No, it would be appropriate for the Democrats to accept help from the Ukrainian government. But I think if you look at the political article, and we're talking about just a single article here. If you accept all the facts in the article, the scale of what the Russians did is not comparable to anything in that article. If it were, the comparable analogy would be that the Ukrainian president directed the Ukrainian intelligence agencies to steal the hack Donald Trump's campaigns, the emails published them, directed a social media army to influence the election, and sat down its representatives, sat down with Chelsea Clinton and John Podesta in which they indicated they wanted the dirt on Donald Trump. There's no suggestion anything of that magnetusde So the scale is different. Acknowledge that, But this is problematic. This Ukrainian meeting is problematic. In your well, it would be problematic to get any kind of support from a foreign government. But again, I think to compare the two is a bit like comparing bank robbery with writing a check with insufficient funds. Both appropriate money from the bank improperly, but a very different degree of seriousness and involvement, in this case by a foreign government. And as we roll along, that was Jonathan Turley, Alan Dershowitz, and even Congressman Schiff saying everything that we have been telling you about all of these issues. Everything. Anyway, glad you with US eight nine for one Shawn Tolfree telephone number you want to be a part of the program. Sarah Carter, Senior editor Circa dot Com. Greg Jarrett Legal, anilist Fox News. You know what, right, let's go back to and you've written columns about it in detail, and they have one respected liberal Democratic lawyer after another not told the party line. But I actually care about the rule of law, equal application of the law, and the constitution saying sorry, it's not a crime to get information if somebody says I got something for you. But yet the media plays this up like this is Watergate fifty degree. Well, and what's interesting is that no member of the mainstream media seems to have bothered to even look at the Federal Election Commission's government website, which makes it perfectly clear that it's lawful for foreign nationals to be involved in American political campaign Sean. And in fact, let me just quote it. It's one line and it's very simple. Even though a foreign national cannot make campaign contributions, he or she can serve as an uncompensated volunteer for any campaign or medical party, and then the website goes on to state that foreigners are allowed to camp, attend campaign strategy meetings and events. The Commission says none of this is considered to be a contribution. So how is it possible that the media ever bothers to look at the main website that explains the law on elections and what's legal and what's not legal with respect to the Russian lawyer meeting with Donald Trump Jr. I mean, do you see a difference in the Ukraine situation at all or is that legal in your mind too? Even though you have a DNC operative as being paid by the d n C meeting at the Ukrainian embassy with the Ukrainian ambassador and sharing the information with the d n C and the Clinton campaign under the Federal Election Commissions guidelines, rules and the law, and it conforms completely with the Code of Federal Regulations, um, you know, which identifies crimes and non crimes. Um. It is legal for you know, Hillary Clinton to have collaborated with the Ukrainian government as long as they're not in any decision making capacity, but providing information is legal. What's astonishing is the hypocrisy that you've pointed out repeatedly among the mainstream media, you know, they yawn and ignore the Hillary Ukrainian connection, but but they go apoplectic over Donald Trump junior meeting, you know, with a Russian lawyer to obtain information in both cases is perfectly legal, but the media demonizes Trump and gives a free ride to Hillary Clinton. Let me go to you, Sarah. You know, Sarah, you've done so much good investigative work, and you know, the media all sheep because they just follow each other. And meanwhile, you, you and John and and my friend Greg here, you all have broken ground in so many different areas. You're the one that talked early on about a FISA surveillance is warrant. You're the one that talked about another warrant. You're the one that exposed yeah, Trump Tower was being surveiled. Then you talked about unmasking. We're supposed to have Susan Rice testifying this week and we'll see if that happens and what's going on with that. But now we have this, this leak is dumped by the FBI. Was fascinating to me because you've got forty two pages of highly sensitive FBI criminal investigation into the email server scandal, and then you find out, you know, all part of a midyear exam. Then they talk about grand jury material when you couple with what Judicial Watch found, and then you begin to you know, find out, well, Hillary Clinton, by the way, was asked by the FBI, she's obstructing justice. Destroyed some of her her cell phone devices with a hammer, and then she hands over to the FBI cell phones that don't have a SIM card in them, which rendered them useless. Isn't that obstruction of justice under any reasonable interpretation, Yes, it appears to be an obstruction of justice. And this is what the FBI who were on the case, who were following this case, who were part of building a case against Hillary Clinton, looking at these facts. I mean, if you just look at these redacted documents, and they're so I mean, they're highly redacted. So there were pages and pages of documents that nobody could see. Judicial Watch just did not even have a word on them. But the ones that had a few a little bit of information exposed that. You know that there were documents that were designated to go to a grand jury. And I can tell you this from talking to law enforcement officials who were very close to this case, who had firsthand knowledge of what was going on here. They told me that their senior leaderships had them bending over backwards for the d o J. I mean, they just couldn't get two steps ahead because they were forced to bend backwards for the d o J every single time. I mean to the point where I mean even former FBI Director Comy had to admit where Cheryl Mills was getting in on the interview with Hillary Clinton and she was a potential witness, he had to admit that that never happened. So there were a lot of issues with how this played out. And I think, you know, especially because of the work of Judicial Watch, which is what you know, John and I try to do is get those documents, get those facts so when the facts are on their faith, nobody can dispute them. And what Judicial Watch was able to do was get these documents to give us a little peak into how difficult it was for our federal law enforcement officers, for our for our agents, FBI agents who are conducting this investigation, to conduct this investigation. And remember, Sean, even within the FBI senior leadership was basically and this is according to sources that I've spoken with. They were saying, look, we're not gonna have to worry about this after the November elections because basically Hillary is going to be the president. So everybody was assuming Hillary was gonna win right at that point. Those people that were supporting were people within the FBI, So there was a reason to not move this case forward. And um, apparently from what we're seeing from these documents, that was not the case with those that were conducting the investigation. All right, stay right there, we'll continue. Greg Jarrett and Sarah Carter eight nine one Shawn are toll free telephone number. You want to be a part of the program. All Right, it's really really hot these last couple of days in the Northeast and New York hazy hot human Hannity days this summer. But you know, look, you want the best comfort, You want the latest, greatest materials. You want to stay as cool and comfortable as possible. Well, some of you might be wearing like old T shirts and you're sweating like crazy in the more old underwear, old socks. And it's amazing because you have moisture fabrics that are available today by Tommy John that actually will pull the perspiration right off your body. Now, why wouldn't you want the comfort or why are you living back a hundred years ago with materials that just aren't relevant? 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Right, as we continue with Greg Jarrett and Sarah Carter, and uh, we're talking about Hillary Clinton, we have more information of obstruction of justice. Greg, let me ask you about First of all, why didn't the media pick up on this forty two page FBI document dump? How come if if Hillary Clinton, if basically they mentioned the word grand jury, I'm thinking, all right, they might have been a grand jury convened. Then I'm thinking, Okay, she the whole narrative that she gave us was well, I just wanted the convenience of one device. That was the whole narrative about the email server scandal. And I just wanted I only had one device. Let me find out she has a BlackBerry, an iPad and iPod or an iPhone rather and then she on top of that, she has a hammer and they break how many devices for her and smash them up into biddy pizzas. And then the FBI knows she has three other ones, she hands them over without any sim cards. Is that not obstruction of justice? If you destroy evidence relevant to appending investigation, it's obstruction of justice. You're destroying evidence to allegedly hide a crime. And uh, you know they handed over two of phones, smartphones, but without SIM cards. I mean, yeah, it's like handing over your computer, but I'm not going to give you my hard drive, so it's it's utterly worthless. And then they were requested to hand over it was actually demanded that they hand over thirteen mobile devices in all, they turned over none of them. So and all of the excuses that were offered were utterly vacuous. Um. And yet the you know, the FBI lets it go and the media ignores it in in the dump that you just referred to when they heavily redacted all of this information. But you can see what went on the Hillary campaign, and Hillary Clinton and and all of her associates, um went out of their way to be uncooperative. It's it's amazing to me that five people received immunity, five others took the fifth, and yet Hillary Clinton wasn't even sworn uh in during her brief interviewing, which all she could remember was her name and data birth. I mean more than thirty times she said, I don't remember, I don't recall. She didn't even remember the tutorial she received telling her how to handle classified information, or the memos that she sent to our own staff. I mean, let's be yeah, you know, this is why I don't know where Jeff Sessions is. Maybe something's happening that we don't know out and maybe you'll be able to discover it, Sarah Carter. But I'm like, Okay, we have a new attorney general, statute of limitations have not gone anywhere. Why isn't this woman being investigated? I we don't know that. We don't know that she's not Sean, And let's just put it that way, you know, And I've I've spoken to a number of people in federal law enforcement, and many times these cases never fully get closed. So maybe they've reopened it. We don't know that yet. And you're right, I'm going to continue to investigate this. But just looking at all of those facts that we now see before it's laid out on their face, it's hard to imagine where Director Comy at the time, former Director Tommey at the time came to the conclusion on July fifth, two thousand sixteen, to say that no reasonable prosecutor would take such a case. Um, could you imagine if any of us had decided to destroy our what appeared to be evidence that the FBI was seeking or take out the SIM cards out of our cell phones before smash them with a ammer. I mean, imagine, Sean, Yes, why do I know I'd be in jail? Why do I know that I'd be hiring Greg Jarrett and Jay Sekulo and you know, Joe to Geneva Victoria. I'd have to have fifty attorneys to get and I'd still end up in jail. And you'd have to bring me a file and a cake, a file in a cake. Yeah. Sure, I would definitely think about doing that shot or a bottle of vodka a day, well one of the others, so I won't even know him in jail. Well if if you if you bring up vodka, then they're going to collude you with the Russian exactly. Yeah, seriously, but looking at those facts on their face, I mean, they're very serious issues. Now you can understand the enormous frustration that a lot of federal investigators had when conducting this investigation. Right, Apparently, there were five separate FBI field offices conducting these investigations into the Clinton email server, and there was anger among the FBI agents. That's not just coming from the sources on my spoken with McKay himself admitted that I've got to run, but I'm gonna tell you if this doesn't get open, we don't have equal justice under the law. Now, I gotta take a break. I really appreciate both of you being with us, Gregg Jarrett, Sarah Carter won will continue, all right, news, round up, information, overload our eight nine one. Shawn told free telephone number. You want to be a part of the program, We're gonna get your calls on all of this. And if you want to be a part of the program, let's start with Seattle, Washington. Terry is standing by Terry, Hi, how are you? And glad you called? Hey, Sean, how are you? I'm good? All right? So I actually met you once upon a time at a fundraiser in Honolulu and I shook your hand. Is the of why the liberal agenda can maintain its momentum even though you know they're in the majority in power. It's the squeaky will, it's the grease and conservatives need to get out of their safe space. This whole we're the conservatives, We're right, they're wrong. We're gonna win by logic is not working. The silent majority is not working. We need more ground level activism knocking on doors. Given the GOP money is not working, we need to be more active. Listen, I I think what's gonna have to happen, And it's all gonna play out in the next few months, and we're gonna know who we can count on and who really needs to go, and there's just going to have to be a there's just gonna have to be some firings. I mean, look, one of the things I don't like to do in my business is fire people. I mean, Linda can tell you more than but Linda, how hard is it to get me to fire people? It's pretty hard? Right, Yeah, it's pretty annoying. And Linda, you know, usually to get me to fire somebody that has you have to start at least a year out right more. It's like too, it's a nightmare. And so I don't want to fire. And what is my rule? That people always fire themselves? Okay? But I try to give everybody the opportunity. And you know, the way my brain works is that, you know, you want to give everybody every opportunity. And I understand that everybody doesn't have the urgency of a Linda or me or whatever, and you you kind of everybody, you kind of put them in their zone and where as long as they're doing their part and their job and the way, that's affective. But if they're not, you set them down and you try and help them. Well, you know what, Sean, can I can I jump in here for a second, because Laura and I worked really really hard today and we tried our best as people who actually have the numbers on the inside to these senators. We have the press lines, we have the direct lines, we have direct emails where we gave them out earlier. But but here's the real problem. So here we are not calling the public numbers. You know, these people forget that they work for the American people. So we have a little bit of an advantage because we have a better number, we have a more direct email. We cannot get responses, we cannot get past an intern we cannot get an answer, we cannot get a confirmation on a potential request for an interview. And the problem is you're willing to go out and make the American people subject to these rulings and these votes that you are either willing or unwilling to give, depending on what year it is. But you're not willing to talk about those votes and that opinion. You're only willing to issue statements where you don't have to be called to count for what you're actually saying. And it's I have to say, like, I'm appalled today. I'm so angry today, I can't even I don't even have enough words to talk about angry. I am well, to be perfectly honest, I have been the victim of this wrath today behind the scenes. Well you deserve it, okay, and so Terry. So what I'm what I'm actually doing is letting her event right now because she needs to better at the audience than me. But I event, I mean yesterday I was left staring at the sky in complete disbelief and awe. And what I'm seeing a lot of and and this is just my instinct. You know, we talk about the money, we talked about locking on doors, public support, and what do you see on the left? What is working for them? You know, it's it's public These people on the left and why they maintain their powers. They've surrounded themselves with an army. We see how they attack you, we see how they attack other conservatives. They literally have an army that's willing to get as dirty as necessary to support their cause. And on the right, we're just more principled. We're not going to burn down businesses in march down the street and block traffic. I think it's called work. We're too busy. Work. Listen, well, yeah, work, you know. Let make finished my point on firing though, because this is important and what you're saying now is getting to a point. I'm well beyond my two year period here and this is now a seven year long process of repealing and replacing. And I don't have any more patients. I have none. And for those people we get into this next week and this battle and this fight is engaged, and if they fail and if they don't do their job and we don't get lower premiums and we don't get this promise fulfilled, it's just I am going to have a list of names of people that need to be fired. Well, Hanniday, we can't get rid of Susan Collins. It's our only chance in Maine of getting a Republican Well, if she's not going to repeal Obamacare, she's absolutely what's the point it's so fresh or Lisa Murkowski demanding whatever it is all right. I appreciate the call, Terre. I gotta get to some other calls here. Mike is in Kentucky. Mike, Hi, how are you glad you called? Sir Sean? Thanks. It's gonna say you're a true patriot to appreciate everything you've done. Uh, you know, the sentence done a pathetic job at trying to do this repew and replace. So I just want to throw out a suggestion, why can't we replace and then repeal? And here's what I'll explain. Can't they pass a bill to begin selling insurance on a free market by the end of this year, and then people can choose Obamacare or they can choose the free market option. And if the free market option is thus expensive and better, people are gonna flock to that. Essentially that by itself will make Obamacare, uh, you know, fail even quicker by the end of Trump's first term. And so I'm wondering, why can't they just do that they have both options in place. Well, I don't disagree at all. I mean they could have listen that Ted Cruz has a plan. Even the House bill, the CBO came back and said premium deductions, premium deductions, are huge, massive, needed, necessary free market competition is it's supposed to be what the Republican Party stands for. You know, that's where the health cooperatives that we we talked about in the last hour commit in in the last half hour. That's where health savings accounts coming these. You know, the things that are being done on the ground by people like Dr Umber are so creative and so innovative, and it's so frustrating because you know what, the average American can get concierge hop quality twenty four access care, and they can get it for as low as fifty dollars a month at ten bucks a month for their kids. And we can get a nine reduction in our pharmaceutical costs and we don't have to pay astronomical you know, amounts of money going to emergency rooms when we have the concierge care. You know something, the carpenters, the contractors, the plumbers. I went out to dinner. My son is home last night. I went out to dinner with him and and we're at a restaurant and I met this guy. I didn't remember him, but you know, some fifteen years ago he had worked on my house. You know, fixing a plumbing problem I had, and he reminded me of the situation. I said, okay, yeah, I remember, and I'm just talking to him about his business and you know those Why doesn't that guy get the concierge care. Why is the government in the way in the first place? Why are we forcing young people to buy plans that they don't need, can't afford, and if they don't buy, we're penalizing them with a huge tax, which many of them end up paying. It's so frustrating. Government is not by of and for the people. Big government is the problem. Reagan has said it. You know, for all the work the president has done, some of the best work he has done, you don't even know about because he's just rolling back Obamacare regular rules and regulations. Because you know, every five seconds, the government wants to tell you you can't eat salt, or you can't drink a soda, or you can't drink this many ounces of soda. And yet is that the role and function we want from these people? All right, I think we can get it. I can get a replacement out there and let let people compare Obamacare to the replacement. I think people start going to replacement, and quit focusing on trying to repeal it first, and the replacement by I disagree. I think you gotta repeal it. You gotta get rid of it because that allows all new creativity. I never liked the House Bill for that reason. Dump it and start over, and you can create the transition period where people are covered and nobody's gon to get hurt as long as you don't pork it all up. I mean, honestly, this is the this this is gonna work out so much better in the end. I in my opinion, it's so much better. Anyway, I appreciate the call eight hundred nine for one Shawn, you want to be a part of the program as let's see as we check in now. John is in Indianapolis, John High, How are you glad you called? Sure, it's fantastic to talk to you, my friend. What's going on? Hey? You got you got Mr rand Paul and Mr mcconnald are goth from you know, the great state of Kentucky. But it's like they don't talk to each other. You know, No, they talked to each other. What's that? What's that? They know they talked to each other. They actually have like a. I don't know they have this like alliance. Okay, I won't but I won't go after you. You don't go after me. I mean, it's very transparent. I mean, Randa is very popular in the state. Mitch McConnell probably a little less so. And Randa's decided he's not going to go after the majority leader. And the majority leader, I'm sure doesn't like Rand's position. He's he won't fall in line on a lot of issues, which is good for friend. And I think this was Rand's idea from the get go, and I thought it was a good idea. And I remember telling him I'll support that idea. Let's repeal it like we did in I didn't expect for senators, three of which voted to repeal it in fifteen, backtrack on their on their repeal. Nobody expected it, you know, all right, John, thank you, my friend, Teresa, Frederick Maryland, next McAll. I guess in the last few months, I've been very frustrated. But what's been happening in the last couple of days is just absolutely been sickening. Um. You know, right now in Congress, they don't seem to have the American public's interests um at all um. They're more interested in to me and things that don't matter the election results. Russia trying to get back at Trump. My message to them is do what the American people voted you in force, do the Republican agenda and start doing your job. You know. And I'm just repeating what you just said in that um. Two years ago they were going to repeal obama Care and now they're not. And why is it because it's Trump's the president? Is it because of special interest? I really begin to wonder, want to I really think, and I've said this that there are five groups that don't like the president, and I have said that two of those groups are never Trumpers and weak Republicans. And I do believe there is an element of some in the Republican Party that does not want this man to succeed. And yeah, I think they they they think they come from a liberal enough state and they can get away with it, or they can act like they're given away free stuff to their their constituents, and that's their excuse. I think it's you know, I don't put it past these these idiots. What I want to play for you some comments we had Mark Meadows and Jim Jordan's on the program last night, and I want to play what they said about the healthcare bill that they've been so instrumental in helping get done. I like the clean repeal idea, but three Republican senators you have what Collins, Murkowski and Compito I think is her name, all saying there against it. We don't have the votes already for that. Congress Congressman Medals, Well, I mean one of the problems is two of those senators you just mentioned actually voted on this very same bill last year, and so just suggests that they're going to vote no now when they voted yes to send it to a president Barack Obama, Then why not send the same bill to President Trump? Because I can tell you we'll get a different result. We're being out worked by the President of the United States. We've got to get it done here, and enough is enough a clean repeal. If we can't find a repeal and replacement vehicle, now is the time to act on ye and Congressman Jordan's no, I mean, look, it never hurts to do what you said, right. We told the American people were to repeal it. Let's let's pass the same thing. We passed in and it's a very different animal when you actually call the vote up. I always tell people if if if you never kick the ball off and play the game, you never you're never gonna actually know who wins. So sometimes the conventional wisdom doesn't hold true. Let's call the role. Let's see what happens. They might say they're gonna vote against it. Call it up both in the House and the Senate, and let's say, okay, are you really gonna vote different than you voted just fifteen, sixteen, seventeen months ago. Are you really gonna do something different than you told the American people you were gonna do the last six years. Never forget two thousand, two thousand, fourteen, two thousand and sixteen elections. This was a central issue where we promised them repeal. So let's call it up and see if what they say now actually happens. When it's the role calling, they're out there on the floor of the center of the House actually casting the vote. Is there anybody at all on the Democratic side of the aisle that's rulling in any way to help Joe Mansion, any Democrat you can think of, or were they just you know, literally maybe eat well that that's if you repeal it first, then maybe you can put together a coalition with some Democrats and Republicans to address them. So repeal it first, then you might be able to put together the coalition actually compress both sides. Agree with Congress, this could actually work out better. You repeal it first and like and they all voted for it, as you said, then you could really make add the cooperatives I'm talking about, and the health savings accounts we've been talking about, add the catastrophic here that I've been talking about the interstates, and work out better. Well, you're right all those points. The President made that point last night when he commented on this the very first time. He says, we'll get some Democrat involvement. You know, when we're talking about repeal, it's very difficult for a Democrat to vote on anything that repeals something that has their president's name on it. But once it's repealed, it's all about coming together and finding out what works best. And and my good friend Jim just mentioned that it's about that competition across state lines. It's about making sure that we have a so creation plans that actually can provide a group kind of policy that would drive premiums down protect those pre existing conditions. But we've got to be all hands on deck, you know, having failure is not an option right now. And so whether it's on the Senate side or the House sides, let's go ahead with a clean, straight repeal and get it done and make sure that we send something to the President so he can sign all right, Mark Meadows, Jim Jordan's, you know, but for the Freedom Caucus, I honestly have no faith in people in Washington. All right, we'll take a break, we'll come back when we come back. Your calls coming up straight ahead till the top of the hour. Toll free or telephone numbers und nine for one, Shawn, you want to be a part of the program, a lot more to say, We're just gonna continue to give out the names and phone numbers of all these people in Washington that aren't keeping their word. And it's unbelievable that we have, you know, all of these issues, all of these problems, all of these promises, all of these perks, all of these spoiled breaths, and they can't get together and get a single job done. It's amazing to me. Anyway, I want to get your calls in here, Scott and Oklahoma, Scott High how are you? What's up? Scott? Appropriate than you do, and uh, you're a great part of my day and thank you. What's going on? I just want to say that, you know, yesterday I was pretty apoplexic about all the news that the Congress is just gonna shoot down the the health build that you know, they promised they're going to get rid of us for seven years, sixty eight times they parted all and uh, you know, and now they're not gonna do anything about it, and that's just that's a betrayal to us. You know, well, I'm not sure they're not gonna do it. I mean, I honestly think that we're just gonna keep mounting pressure and mounting pressure. And you know, I'm a little piste off of people like Ron Johnson. Oh, let's just move on to the economy. No, you don't get to move on to the economy that quickly, you don't. You gotta finish your work here. And you know, this is what really ticks me off, you know about people like Susan Collins and Rob Portman and Lisa Murkowski and Compito. All these people, repeal, repeal, repeal, repeal, they're all on tape, repeal, repeal, repeal, and then they don't get it done. Now they're not what we're willing to do, what they said they were going to do, and exactly, you know, that's that's that's that's the betrayal I'm talking about, even if it's just for them, they also they were going to do it, and now they're not. No, Well, are we supposed to believe them anymore? No? Well, you know, and that's why we're trying to hold these people accountable and hold them to their word. That means that every other Senator, every other Congressman that's willing to vote for repeal and fulfill their promise, they're being held hostage by four people that have changed their position. I mean seriously, I mean, you really can't blame anybody else but these four. Murkowski, Shelley Moore, Corpito, Rob Portman, and Susan Collins. They all, as I've been playing, they all said repeal Obamacare. They've all said it. They've said it repeatedly. They said it again and again. Later this week, the Senate will consider a bill to repeal Obamacare, a costly disaster that four years later, six five years later, we see has cost countless people access to their doctor, access to their healthcare plan of their choice, and the thousands of West Virginians from my state who have lost or had to change their coverage. We ought to ask individuals and families whose premiums and deductibles have skyrocketed, and the small businesses who have been forced to cut hours and employees. Americans deserve a healthcare system that works for them, and we know that Obamacare is not it. There is a better way. I want to share with you today where I am at on healthcare reform. First off, I remain committed to repealing the Affordable Care Act. In in Alaska, we are down to one provider in the individual market. The state has been forced to spend its extremely limited general fund dollars to stabilize that market, even as our premiums are are still rising. So you've got rising premiums. We've spent a lot of the state to attempt to stabilize and and we we have just one provider on the individual market today here in the United States Senate, and tomorrow as we debate this and vote on it, We've got a chance to move the ball forward and show people that at least a majority here in the United States Congress agree we have to address this issue. Uh. This vote will show that there are some here in Congress who are listening and have some answers. Our job is to do what's right, and that's the past this legislation to repeal and replace Obamacare to give us a chance to get rid of some of the most detrimental aspects of it that are maating jobs, that are pushing healthcare costs higher and higher. One of the major reasons that I strongly opposed the Affordable Healthcare Act was that there was nothing affordable about it. I predicted it would lead to fewer choices and higher insurance costs for middle income families and small businesses. Congress must work together to address the very real healthcare concerns of the American people and the budget realities we face. Repealing Obamacare is poorly crafted and misguided mandates, and replacing the law with a fiscally responsible reform bill that contains costs and provides more choices is the best path forward. Thank you, Mr President, and every other Senator and Congressman that made the promise, and now they're not willing to do what they can do. The only thing I can say is call them all them and tell them to keep your promise to the American people and stand up for what you said you were going to do. Well, I can't change my mind. Well, I think we need the replacement. Now, that's not what they all said. You get, you have a perfect transition. You have two years that gives you time to actually do something right, and you've got plenty of warning. Altho, they'll end up waiting til the last minute anyway, you know, or mcausey is gonna demand some type of you know, quid pro quo, holding everybody a bridge to nowhere of some kind. Anyway, it's frustrating, It really is frustrated. Let's go all right, here's a liberal Tracy Katie Texas Katie Is. Tracy is happy that health care has failed, aren't you? You're very happy about that. No, I'm not happy that it fails so much, Sewan, I'm looking at the fakeness of the party. Look, for all these years it's been posturing, and all it did was postage just so it can get elected. If anybody knows the true origin of the health care. They know it came from the Heritage Foundation. They know that mid Romney actually implemented in Massachusetts. And you know, I realized what was so cold. Mitt Romney could have actually stole the election from Obama if Mitch McConnell, who should be fired, didn't posture and make Mitch McConnell go against Obama. I'm gonna show you something. Romney could have stole the election from Obama simply saying this, ladies and gentlemen, Obama implemented the healthcare improperly in law. I did it in Massachusetts, and I can do it better job than Obama. This is when the rollout was really bad. But all they did was positive for the Republicans to get the votes. And I'm gonna agree with part of what you're saying, and I'm not gonna disagree with you, all right, but I'm not I'm not disagreeing that these were show votes. I'm not disagreeing that these people had no intention to keep in their words. It was evident to people like me, you know, back when they wouldn't use their the constitutional authority and the power of the purse. It was obvious to me. It really was so I knew back then, and this audience knew back then. But with that said, if you can't get the full loaf, you gotta take three quarters. If you can't get three quarters, you take two thirds. But Sean, let me say this. Here's the thing that gives me the most. Right now, I'm listening to the Republicans crying, you know what, the Democrats will help us, all right, But here's the problem with your argument, Tracy. Because your side gave us keep your doctor, keep your plan. On average, the average family saves a year. You're the one that said, oh, we'll have choices and options. You're the one that said, okay, so we have millions lose their doctors, millions lose their care, millions more that only have one option, excuse me, and on average of six to eight thousand dollar increase per family, and nobody saved any money. And then you had young people forced to subsidize the the the poor, the uninsured, the elderly, and the sick. So I really don't want to hear that you have the answers either. But with that said, the answer is in the free market. You know. The answer is things like what I have been telling in this audience about since twelve, and that's healthcare cooperatives and has the word cooperative in it. Do you think liberals would love it? Fifty bucks a month, unlimited care, concierge care for the average American. They deserve it. And you have a doctor on call seven, and you have a percent discount on on drugs and pharmaceuticals, and you get stitches and broken bones taken care of and all your care. And then you couple it with a catastrophic plan, which is relatively inexpensive based on the amount of deductible you're willing to pay. And then when you have that, you're fully covered if you get cancer, have a heart attack, or a bad accident. None of this is that hard. What bothers me is they can't. These people frustrate me. So I'm saying, put them in a room, take away their air conditioners, put in fans, sending water, coke, Pepsi, sprite, whatever, pizza, Kentucky Fried Chicken, Wendy's. You know what. No no fair from the Senate dining room, no barbershops, no workout rooms. Go do your job, no vacations and get it done. I've been here just six months. I'm ready to act. I have pen in hand. To believe me, I'm sitting in that office. I have pen in hand. You never had that before. You know, for seven years, you had an easy route, will repeal, will replace, and he's never gonna sign it. But I'm signing it. So it's a little bit different. But I'm ready to act. For seven years, you promised the American people that you would repeal Obamacare. People are hurting. In action is not an option. And frankly, I don't think we should leave town unless we have a health insurance plan, unless we can give our people great healthcare. So my message today is really simple. We have to stay here. We shouldn't leave town, and we should hammer this out and get it done, and not just to repeal. I think the people of this country need more than a repeal. They need a repeal and a replace. We can repeal, but we should repeal and replace. And we shouldn't leave town until this is complete, Until this bill is on desk, and until we all go over to the Oval office. I'll sign it and we can celebrate for the American people and for all these people like Murkowski and and and Portman and Collins I'm just sick of these people, every one of them. It's such a disappointment. The whole country now sitting. You know, the President makes a promise, he's sitting on it. You know, every Republican that made a promise to repeal, they're all now sitting on their hands because of four people that can't keep their word. It's despicable to me. I don't know. You make it, you make a promise, you keep your promise, and they haven't done it. But the best thing we need to do is get rid of this monstrosity in this disaster which is Obamacare. Anyway, one Shawn told free telephone number. You want to be a part of this extravaganza. All right, let's say, Hia do Ben is in Montana? Ben? Hi, how are you glad you called? Hey son? Thank you very much for taking my call to stake. You know, I've been listening to your show and many others this whole period, with this whole conversations thing going on. The thing that keeps nagging at me, why aren't they talking about the cost of health care? Why aren't they getting into the nuts and bolts? Ted CRUs came up with a proposal to do that. Yeah, yeah, hello, can hear me? Yeah, go ahead? Yeah. Um. So the thing that's been bothering about this whole conversation, why aren't they getting into the nuts and bolts about the cost of health care. It's a difficult issue, it's a complicated issue, but they're treating it as a simple, black and white matter of how to pay for it, which doesn't seem to address any of the actual reasons why we're in this position. You know, if I can see the reasons why these Republicans are backing off of it, because a lot of the echoes of what everybody promised was a repeal and replaced, and you don't the last thing I think that anybody wants to do is to make a move that's just gonna totally break down the entire system in the first place, since that's basically where we're at right now. What's missing is the free market, you know, and this is the beauty of the cooperatives and health savings accounts. That's the beuty of portability, that's the beauty of competition. You have well, you know, you have trillions of healthcare dollars, and the American people are smart, instinctively It's like buying a car. You know, most people now have figured out car dealerships and pretty much you know the price of the car before you ever walk in the dealer, and the dealers know that everybody knows. And similarly, if, if if people are given the choice and the option of healthcare plans, they're going to go for the plan that's inexpensive, that offers the most care for the least amount of money, and those companies that offer it are going to be the companies that benefit in the companies that make a profit in the companies that have more customers. Perhaps And I like that you just said profit, because that's really the point on this. I think that to some degree we can understand that there's going to be a population of healthcare consumers that need more help than others, and when you're looking at it from a profit standpoint, you're going to have to draw a line somewhere. As a brief example, the only reason, for example, that my wife can afford the medication that she's on right now is because of the health of the Medicaid expansion here in Montana. Now I can see easily going off the roles for that which I understand and there's we can make, we can work through and make two. But there are certainly other customers who aren't going to be in that position at all. And I think that the fear is is listen, but you gotta understand if you're a doctor, imagine for a second, you're the doctor. Okay, you're the guy that spends four years in college, three or four years of medical school. You are for next to nothing, you know, doing a residency in an internship, and then you finally have to you know, work in a practice and turn the lights on and rent or buy a building. Absolutely you know it's then then that's what I mean, because you've got these guys trying to navigate the health care the health care industry themselves and provide good services to people. And they're in an industry which is just tapping every person in it, both the providers and the customers, for every dollar that they have within reason. But those losses are are there, and we've we've even see the benefits going to these insurance providers and they have to make their margins too. But it's like every everywhere you look in the system, there's a hard I got a break, but no problem all I appreciate your your word. All right. That's gonna wrap things up with today. Letting out your heart troubled Tannity tonight ten eastern. You know what I'm gonna do. Rather than be angry, I'm gonna give all the answers to the Republicans on healthcare because we've discussed them and if they follow our plan, we can help the American people, all right, So we're gonna help him out. Kelly and Conway will also react to that also, Dr Sebastian Gorka and media freaking out over Oh the big dinner that Merkel had and Trump talked to Putin and I got a mini monologue on Hollywood hate and Rosie O'Donnell and Lou Dobbs tonight ten eastern on the Fox News Channel. Set your DVR and we'll be back here tomorrow. Thanks for being with us. O