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I fell in for David Webb and Andrew will Cow and Serious X and Patriot Channel, and uh I've had my own show called The Experts on Facebook, Live, Twitter and YouTube. Unfortunately, YouTube decided to uh ban me from YouTube because I criticized David Hog a while back. I think I could do it again now, but I took a step away from social media because like in the case of Facebook, like happened to Diamond and Silk, I was reaching over a million people a night, and then all of a sudden it went down to about three thousand people a night, all at the same time. And uh. And then I also wrote a book called Sheep No More The Art of Awareness and Attack Survival. And that book was soaring, uh to the top of Amazon charts, and and uh, you know, Sean Hannity wrote the forward for me in that book, and some reason, strangely, Uh, the book in one day went from uh in the top one hundred uh down to the top one thousand, and then quickly went down and down and down. But every time I host the show, it goes back up, but unlike other books, it goes back down. I can't help but think that all these things are connected in social media, uh, and with the leftists in this country. I have been uh a Navy seal, I was a Federal Air marshal. I did security contracting for a very long time with an amazing company full of seals and special forces, and was an FBI agent here in New York City on the criminal encounter terrorism sides of the house. And uh, now you know, I'm doing my own thing writing um, working in media, and still working in the security contracting business doing uh threat assessments, which my book Sheep no More the Art of Awareness is based upon. So that's my background that and and it's steeped in service. I didn't do these things because I, you know, I wanted to have a cool haircut and and a great watch. I hardly even wear a watch anymore since I got out of the military and out of the federal service. Uh. The point of this is that my motivation was steeped in service. You know, my mother, who is my hero in life, taught me a long time ago about who I need to be in order to be respected. She taught me through her actions. Everybody that knows her and my stepdad at the church where they go, Grace Church there in in Arkansas, in Clinton, Arkansas, everybody knows those two. My mom and my stepdad is being the hardest workers in the world. They do more for people now in their seventies than most people do. I don't in a year. It's amazing what these two do. And so as I was planning for today's show the day before Independence Day, I started thinking, you know, what is it that is missing that we keep seeing uh in the news that we see that we that we don't see in the news, that we don't see in our politicians, that we don't see in the actions of those in Hollywood, that we don't see even in our own actions. And I felt, you know, today would be a good day, not necessarily to break from the news. There are some things in the news that are that are worth talking about, but constantly they revolve back into the set of characteristics that I looked upon that my mother taught me, that I founded, that the founding fathers of this country had, and that no longer exists in a lot of ways in this country. One of those things is dignity. Does anybody even think about dignity before they post a picture on Instagram or on Facebook or on Twitter. Is that even something that is in their mind when they post that selfie or that picture or that funny thing. Because quite often, if you were to look at the series of things that people post, the last thing that you're gonna say to yourself is, man, that person has got a lot of dignity, they've got morals. That's a person that I want to listen to. And I just look at now, I'm starting with you. I worked my way up into this family tree of of destruction in this country. Dialogue and debate. Is that something that we have anymore in this country. The Founding fathers when they created the constitution, when they when they crafted the Declaration of Independence, it came with great dialogue. It wasn't just somebody sending out a a tweet, uh, somebody that was putting a post on a social media platform giving their opinion. These things came at great cost and dialogue and debate, and that's how they came up with the answers of the very doctrine, the very sheets of paper that still guide us in this country two and forty two years after it was formed. Debate, dialogue, that is what the country to this. That's not what happens anymore. It's listening to me. Notice me, I have this to say, I'm right, this is my opinion on it, instead of what do you think I think it should be? This way? Now, I'll give you your turn, and you can say, and then I can tell you why I think yours isn't right, and you can tell me why you think mine isn't right, and then we can come to a conclusion as to what's best for the country. You don't see that sacrifice. How many people sacrifice for their country in this In the United States today, only one percent of the citizen reserves in the military. There's only about a million police officers in a country with three hundred and thirty million. More or less, selflessness is what it's the motivation. It's the foundation of service. You know, in World War Two, upwards of seventy of all the politicians in this country we're veterans. Now it's around more or less. It fluctuates a little bit. I find that shocking. And also when we used to look at the movie stars and the people in Hollywood, we would we note that we would see that they themselves were veterans. Many of them were veterans and served throughout the war in one way or another, supporting the war effort. You don't see that anymore. You see nonprofits. You see people um making money off of and and paying themselves a paycheck to support the troops. Or I don't support the war, but I support the troops all the while they're not even looking at the reality of what's going on and why we're at war. And I'm not just talking about Hollywood people. I'm talking about politicians, activists, talk about people on the street, some of the people that are listening to this show. So I gotta ask everybody, is that as we begin this show, and as you're driving down the road, as you're sitting on the beach somewhere, or you're preparing to leave tomorrow for this holiday, what part of this struggle of what's going on in this country right now, two and forty two years after it was crafted by the founding fathers? What is your part in this struggle? We talked all the time daily on this show and in media. We talk about the mainstream media and the lies that are coming out, and there are lives. We don't look at the family tree. We don't look at the reality of socialism and communism. Socialists are being voted in when they do UH, when they do um questionnaires out on the street polls of young people, they a vast majority of them support socialism. They don't even understand the reality of what it is. And this is what kills me. They are children of parents who didn't understand it. They didn't necessarily support it like these kids do now. But they didn't they didn't study it. They floated through life and freedom. And so now many of them are parents, they're in the media, they're in entertainment, and they have failed at their jobs of raising their children to understand what the the fourth of July. They just call it the fourth of July, not Independence Day. They neglect to understand what that actually is. And so that's what I'm gonna try to help you all out with today. We're gonna talk a little bit more about the dignity that existed in our founding fathers, the dialogue, the debate, the sacrifice, the selflessness that these individuals had, and how it directly affects on the headlines that you see today in the news, the lack of veteran service, the lack of politicians that are focused on what's best for the country and strictly on what's best for their party. Is I read to you when we come back, I'm gonna read you part of the Declaration of Independence. You if you've never read this or heard it, you're going to be shocked. And if you believe that socialism is a good thing. If you believe that communism is a good thing, you need to hear this because history. If you don't protect the very freedom that you've been given, history will repeat itself. So that's what we're gonna do today. We're going to educate you a little bit and we are going to show you America, what dignity is all about. We're gonna remind you of that, how you have dialogue and debate and what the true cost of sacrifice really is. Stay tuned. This is gonna be an amaze easing show. And as you're driving down the road, I want you to say a prayer and thank those that have given their lives for you, for this independence, and the founding fathers that went out of their way their comfort zone, put themselves last for your freedom. Go get my book, Sheep No More The Art of Awareness and Attack Survival. It's available on Amazon, Barnes, and Noble anywhere that you can can get books. And it's my gift to you as a step in the right direction of awareness of empowerment so that you can get away from learned helplessness. This Johnathan Gilham, This is the Shawan Hannity Radio Show and we are just getting started. We'll be right back. This is Jonathan Gilham back in on the Sean Hannity Radio Show. Man. We are all over the place. You're on terrestrial radio, You're on Serious X in Patriot channel, and the call in number is eight hundred nine four one seven three to six. That's eight hundred nine f one Sean, And just real quick, Uh, I want to talk to you all about, um, something that's going on that's happened, uh last Friday. I've gotten to know some of the people from Eric Eric Church's band. Uh. Eric Church himself, those of you that follow country music, one of the most talented artists that there is out there and has been in country music, and unfortunately his brother passed away last Friday evening. And I just wanted to say that they have a Brandon E. Church Memorial Scholarship Fund. I'm gonna put that on Twitter and on Facebook, and I want you all to think about this, because what the money was gonna be raised to to do is bless others and in honor of Brandon's life, and uh, they're gonna start a scholarship fund with this to bless other p pole. I want you to think about as you're driving down the road. Uh, in this Independence day, the freedom that we have. You know, you're the taxpayers in this country. You you are so powerful. The taxpayers are so powerful in this country. It's what makes this country go forward. The things that you do for veterans, the donations that you give, the things that you do as a whole as a citizenry, literally change the world and support freedom all over the globe. I don't know if you realize that or not. It's one of the defining things that this citizenry can actually stand and say, here's evidence of how powerful the people of the United States are. It's not the government that is giving the money to other people in other countries. It's you. The American taxpayers are the ones that provide that money so that we can help others, and so that we can have a the strongest military in the world, so that we can be the superpower, so that you can be protected, and so the government can continue to run your roads. All these things are done because of you. And as as we're going, we're gonna talk about this some more. I want you to realize that that is what makes this country great, and that's what the founding fathers. Uh intended was for the citizenry to work together to make things great. And so as we're gonna go to break here in just a second, I want you to remember that Brandon E. Church Memorial Scholarship. I'll talk some more about this throughout the day and probably on Friday as well. Um, plut your your pocket books and donate to this. Help them give money to to others so that uh, they can help others out with this scholarship in remembrance of Brandon Church. It's an amazing thing. So we're gonna we're gonna take a break here in just a second. And uh, as we do, and as you're drawing down the road, I want you to continue to focus. As I'm talking about today, what is your role as a citizen, What is the role of the citizen re How do we work together? And this is what we're gonna concentrate on for the rest of this show. Now, one of the things before we go, I'm also gonna be playing and I've gotten to know these guys quite well. Um. Jeff Hyde is one of the musicians with Eric Church's band, and uh, I'm gonna play a couple of cuts when we come back, I'm gonna play a cut from his new CD, Norman Rockwell World. You can get that on on iTunes, you can get it at Jeff Hyde music dot com. You're not gonna be disappointed in his music. And as you can see, I'm a huge country music fan. I think you guys are as well. I'm a huge country music fan. I grew up in Arkansas. It's kind of it's like the law and we have to be UH country music fans. But here's a little Eric Church. As we go out and remember the Brandon E Church Memorial Scholarship Fund. You can find that online and go and donate as a try to raise money in UH in honor of him. This is Jonathan Gillham on the Shawan Hanny Radio Show eight D nine for one seven, three to six. We'll be right back standing up for what's right with America. We're back on the Sean Hannity Show. This is Jonathan Gilham back in for Shawn Hannity on the Shawn Hannity Radio Show. Call in number is eight D nine four one seven, three to six. That's eight hundred nine one seven, three to six. If you're driving down the freeway right now on your way to your Fourth of July holiday. If you're at home getting packed or you're not going anywhere, UM call in and I'm I want to hear from you eventually, all right, So don't think that I'm just gonna be talking the entire time. I'm actually going to be uh wanting to talk to you and hear what you think about all the things that are going on in this country now as opposed to the way the Founding Fathers would have intended it to be. And that's what I want to I want to kind of talk to you guys a little bit right now about the Declaration of Independence. I was reading something earlier when I was trying to seek out exactly why, um, the Founding Fathers, what their motivation was for leaving uh Europe and UH striving to have this country and all the things we always hear about, you know, people always saying I'm constitutional, or I'm conservative, or I'm liberal, all these they're throwing all these different things out there, and people say that they believe that the Founding Fathers wanted this. Some people say they think the Founding Fathers were wrong. They think the Constitution is a living, breathing document. Here's why I do not believe that the Constitution was a living, breathing document, just like I don't believe that the Bible is something that was just written by men inspired by God. I believe it was the hand of God that literally wrote what he wants you to to see and to study. It's literal wording, and I think the Constitution is the same way. Now. When I look at the Declaration of Independence and I start looking at exactly how it was written, most people don't even they can't even uh, they don't even know any of the declaration it depends. They just know one line, uh, and that is we hold these truths to be self evident, that all men are created equal, and that they are endowed by their creator with certain and ailable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Now, many people, when they get in front of Congress or they give a speech, they will mistake the Declaration of Independence for the Constitution. The Declaration of Dependance is just that, it's the declaration of our independence from Great Britain and from a king and a prince that were and their words a tyrant. And here's what blows me away. Just like when you read the Bible and you hear the same people fighting then that are fighting now, and people say, oh, the Bible is not true. But yet the same people, since that book has been around for thousands and thousands of years, there is truth in it because things are still happening now that we're talked about then. And when you look at the Declaration of Independence. This is what will blow your mind. When we scroll down on the Declaration of Independence and we start to see that the things that they were fleeing from are the same exact things that are causing problems in this country today. Here two hundred and forty two years after after the country was created. In the Decoration Independence, says that the history and I'm quoting here the history of the present King of Great Britain, this is back then, two or forty two years ago, is a history of repeated injuries and usertations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute tyranny over these states. To prove this, let facts be submitted to a candid world. So they submitted the facts of their argument to the world. Now it would be via Twitter or Facebook or something like that, or or mainstream media, but listen to some of the things. I'm not gonna read them all. Listen to some of the things that they are saying actually occurred. He refuses. He has refused his assent to laws the most wholesome and necessary for the public good. So, in other words, this king would not allow laws to be created that actually did good for the people, that were actually for the people, that were wholesome and necessary for the public good. Now, if that doesn't hit you up the side of the head thinking about all that's going on in politics right now, you need to take a break. Start looking at the Democrat and Republican parties and look at how Washington works. I mean, people in Washington will tell you it doesn't work because they don't have the most wholesome and necessary concept of what is good for the public. It's all about the party, and in many cases it's all about the ideology. Many socialists, many communists, covert communist, many people who just do not have any care in the world for what is best for the country outside of what is best for their ideology or their narrative, or their concept of what the government should be, not what it was intended to be. Um he is for forbidden his governors to pass laws of immediate and pressing importance. I want you to think about that. When they're talking here in the Declaration in defense, are talking about a king. When I'm talking about in modern day, I'm talking about politicians and the two parties, the two party system that we have. We have no real separation of powers in this country. It doesn't matter if it's Congress or the Senate, or the judicial branch, the Supreme Court and all the federal courts in this system, it doesn't matter. They are all the exact same two parties. And if you think one politician is gonna venture too far away from what their party's narrative is, it's not gonna happen. The mainstream media is involved in this same game. So we're big money brokers. So its Hollywood power people, and so what do they do. They they forbid their own to pass laws of the media and pressing importance. Look at immigration, Look at the president trying to change immigration and saying exactly why he wants to change it. And yet the rhetoric, the mainstream media, all these different people have twisted it in such a way that you can't even determine what the truth is unless which most people won't do you listen and read exactly what the president is saying. And that's because where we had a king two hut two years ago, now we have two political parties that are on the verge of tyrannical behavior, and in many cases not on the verge, have actually shown their behavior to be tyrannical. He's uh, the king two u or forty two years ago called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the the the depository of their public records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures. Now, if that doesn't remind you of what's happening in government now, where you have something that is right, you have something that needs to be done. A wall needs to be built, immigration needs to be looked at, the way we fight wars needs to be reconsidered. And yet they will go and they'll fill a buster. They'll go and they'll go to the media, and they will put out narratives that are not true. They're doing that for the exact same reason that this tyrannical king did two and forty two years ago, to fatigue us into not caring and saying there's nothing we can do anyway, and then they have exactly what they want. He has it. He had endeavors back to ur Or forty two years ago to prevent the population of these states for the purpose of obstructing the laws of naturalization of foreigners, refusing to pass others to encourage their migration to this country. Now you may think, well, that's obviously President Trump, But I'm gonna challenge you there. The President is trying to that up an immigration policy that does encourage the right people to come here. I'm not I'm not just talking about people have PhD s. I'm talking about people who want to come here and be free. But there has to be a system to do that. And where you think that the Democrat Party wants that, that left us want that. They don't want that. They want to flood the country of as many people as possible for their own ideological reasons, not to get the right people here. This King two d forty two years ago, as written in the Declaration of Independence, obstructed the administration of justice by refusing his assent to laws for establishing judicial judiciary powers. I mean, look at the Ninth Circuit Court look at the way leftists work in this country. I mean it goes on and on. When we look at what was written in the Declaration of Independence, and they give the facts and state the facts as to why they were trying to break away or were breaking away from those tyrannical behaviors by this king in Great Britain. You see the exact same same thing today. I can go through all of these headlines and I can show you proof better. Yet you go through the headlines and with this in mind, you will see exactly this. A declaration of independence is not long. Go back and read this and you will see that the exact same game is being played on you today. So don't just go and look at it and pick out the one thing that you want. We hold these truths to be self evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their creator with certain and unenaable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Everybody loves that. But they failed to scroll down further and look at the reasons why our founding fathers declared their independence and fought to get away. And so we need to go back, as I always say, back to the future. We need to go back to that mindset and understanding not just what they created for us here, but what they were fleeing and why the founding fathers felt that it was important to do it right using the dialogue and the debate and the sacrifice and the service and the selflessness. I think we have that cued up. Jeff Hides Norman Rockwell World. If you get his CD, it's uh it's number seven, track seven. Go ahead, we'll be right back on the Sean Hannity Radio show, Skipping stones on the lad do everything, Mama's cooking in the kitchen, suffer tables, getting things, and Grandpa stands. Fine is for and Ain't no rock once again. That's Jeff Hyde. You can find that on iTunes or if at Jeff Hyde music dot Com. Go get it. The old CD is great. And get my book Sheep No More The Art of Awareness and Attack Survival. It's available on Amazon, Barnes and Noble. You and your family should all be reading this so you can be safer and do threat assessments on your own life. I teach you how to do that eight nine for one, seven, three to six. We'll be right back. This is Jonathan gill I'm back in for my buddy Shawan Hannity on the Shawn Hannity Radio Show. And right there you were hearing Eric Church, one of my favorites, and I've gotten to know some of the people that work with him and the musicians that play with him, and just an amazing group of people, including Eric herself. And unfortunately his brother passed away, uh last Friday. And they have a memorial set up. It's the Brandon Church Memorial Scholarship Fund. You can see that. I posted on Twitter and on Facebook under Jonathan T. Gilliam and on Twitter at at Jay Gilliam Underscore Seal and you can go and check those out and donate. Uh. We need to get as much money in there as we can so that they can build up to scholarship fund in his name to bless others uh in uh in honor of his life. So let's do that. That's the Brandon Church Memorial Scholarship Fund. And UH, We're gonna come back here in a few minutes. We're gonna talk a little bit more, uh in the next hour about the history of the United States. I want to talk with Kirby Wilbur when we come back, we're gonna talk about, uh, the founding fathers and what their mindset was versus now what the the Independence Day is all about. And then also my good buddy you may know him, Ron Bellan. He is the host of Reaper Outdoor Survived the Hunt. It's on Mondays at nine on the Pursuit Channel. He's gonna be coming on to talk about being in the the the lineage of the funding fighters, and that's something that we don't normally discuss. I mean, you have to realize, if you're a veteran out there right now, you are in the direct lineage of those men. And I would have to say women probably in those days and age, women that gave their lives, maybe not on the front line, but definitely in the fight and keeping their homes safe. You are in the direct lineage of those men. And that's incredible when you think about it two forty two years ago, when they were fighting for their independence. When you put on the uniform, when you put on your boots, when you sign up and raise your right hand and swear to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign domestic, you are doing that in direct lineage of those who founded this country. I just I don't think that the military and the recruiters push that enough so that you can actually see that you're a part of history. It's pretty fascinating when you when you think about it. So we come back, we're gonna talk about that. I'm also eventually gonna get to my book a little bit to talk about Sheep no More, the art of awareness and attack survival. And then later unwell, have Gregg Jared come in, and we're gonna talk about kind of reversing the role what today. It's all about how things have evolved today. So eight hundred nine four one seven three to six hundred nine four one seven three to six. This John the Guilham Navy Seal, Federal or Marshall FBI special Agent filling in for my good buddy Sean Hannity, and go to the Brandon Church Memorial Scholarship Fund and donate in honor of Brandon Church. Let's listen a little bit more Eric as we go out, Julie State, This is John and the Gillham, your resident Navy Seal and FBI special agent here on the Sean Hannity Radio Show calling number. As you you should know you should have this memorize by now eight hundred nine four one seven three to six, eight hundred nine four one sean. For those of you that like the spell numbers, and I'm gonna get to the calls eventually, don't worry if you're on hold, I'll get to you. But we just have a lot in this show, and had a lot to say in the first hour. But now you know I'm listen. I'm not a historian. I mean I've I've read a lot. I've I've studied the Constitution and the Founding Fathers, have a degree in political science and psychology. I've studied what motivated the Founding Fathers to come here and to do these things. But when I was talking to Lauren about who I should set up for this segment, she mentioned Kirby Wilber. He's a k v I talk radio host. He has a degree in history from the University of Washington and taught homeschool high school students American history and American government and economics for twenty years. Uh. Today, Uh, he's gonna join us right now to talk about the fourth of July, and I want to get his perspective on what the founding fathers intended and what we have morphed into. So Kirby, welcome and uh and thanks for being here and and teaching these young people about the reality of what this country is all about. I just don't think that we get that enough. Well, thanks Jonathan, No, we don't. And I've been honored to teach these kids for some twenty years and continue to do so. Having radio job, you can kind of manipulate your daytime schedule, so I've I've got the honor of teaching these kids and their parents trust me. And it's very important for us to understand where we came from and why we came from there, to understand where we are now and where we're going, Where are we're okay, where did we come from? That's let's start with that we came from a group of very dedicated men who had character and courage and conviction, who believed it was possible for people to rule themselves, that it was no longer necessary or right that a king or a small council or small number of people would rule the many. That he Coman's were endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights, and that they have the capacity for self government, and that was the moral way to go, and that's what the American War of Independence was about self government. Now I read earlier. I don't know if you're listening. I read earlier some of the Declaration Independence, and most people don't get past the phrase about the inabable rights that all men are created equal. They failed to go further past that to see what we were fleeing from because they founding fathers felt it important to display to the world exactly what was going on. And Uh, when we read those things, it's remarkable how much of that is going on today, but instead of a king, it's being caused by two political parties that own every seat of power in governmance in the United States. What we had back then was we had a very prosperous society. Americans were the most prosperous society in the world. Bertie sh Reviley left us a loan for a very long time. We weren't even heavily taxed, Jonathan, we were the lightest taxed. Uh. Similar society we're in the world in the mid eighteenth century, but the British were imposing taxes without our consent. And it's important that we remember that the slogan was no taxation without representation. It wasn't no taxation, it was that we were not represented among those who are making the rules for us. And that's what drove the Founding Fathers to establish a new nation dedicated to the idea that we could rule ourselves based on a belief in God, a belief in our rights coming from God, a belief in our ability to govern ourselves, and the idea of the government. The purpose of government was to protect our rights and no other reason. That's why governments are instituted among men, and that we have the right to change that government should have become destructive of those ends, and we were changing our government because the government we had had become destructive of the ends of liberty. You know, it's interesting when as we I was talking earlier, I was mentioning about a friend of mine whose brother dad Brandon Church Memorial Scholarship Fund. People can go and donate to that, but I was um I was talking about the h the American citizenry, that taxpayers, and how there's only a few things in this country where I think that the citizenry actually does act as in the in according to the way that the Founding Fathers intended us to do. One is when we pay taxes, and that's what really gives us our defense. That's what allows us to help the rest of the world and UH and fight against tyranny. And then also things like when they go I know the sounds trivial, and I'm sure that the Founding Fathers weren't thinking of this, but when you go to a sporting event and they play the national anthem and everyone stands together, that is the type of camaraderie and citizenship that they intended. But what is your your thought process as to how we got away from that? What was it because we're when you're in freedom, in your bathe and freedom, that you become lazy in that freedom? Or is it because of other ideologies or other UH forms of government that have have secreted their ways into this country. Well, I think to be free as a strug and the Founding Fathers knew that it's not easy to be free in this world, Jonathan, And most of the history of the world, we've been slaves or serves. People have not been free. We've only seen this liberty in the past two d and fifty years. And I always tell my students. If you look at the recorded history of the world is roughly five thousand years. The ability to the twelve inch ruler those last two and fifty years or half an inch. So for eleven and a half inches of the twelve inches of time, we have been servants and slaves and subjects. We have not been free citizens. And the burden of liberty is really hard to carry, and people get so accustomed to it, I think, to get tired of it. They think this is a natural state. So many people think that, oh, freedom is liberty is how everyone lives. No, it's not, and it's how everyone has lived. It's a burden. And the forefathers saw this. Founding father saw this. One Franklin there was a woman asking me out for the Constitutional Convention in seventy was leaving the hall and a woman said, Dr Franklin, what have you given us? And he replied, A republic if you can keep it. Because the founders looked at this is a great experiment. Every other attempt at this had failed, and they had no idea whether or not we had the stamina and the conviction to carry this through and have it survive. And you have our our institutions academy attacking the very idea of liberty, the very idea of America, and we get trashed in the media. People don't learn the constitution of the Declaration anymore, they don't learn about the Founding Fathers, or if they do, it's all about racism and sexism and classism. And as you tear down those foundations of this country, a lot of people on the left are like termites. They'll eat away the foundation and pretty soon you think the foundation looks very strong because it looks okay from the outside, but the inside has rotted because they've been rotted it out. Most Americans, I think, are very patriotic. Most Americans appreciate what we have. But over time that commitment wears down and the burden gets heavy and people want relief, and so they turned to government or turned to other forces, and it slowly erodes. Now, what do you think if the Founding fathers were here, what do you think they would say, um, that we should do to get back to that, Because I personally think that they would look at the two party political system that we have now as uh detrimental to the to the republic. I think that they would look at it as veering away from the what the Constitution was meant to be. And I think that they would be wise to look at it and say that these tyrannical powers have morphed into parties rather than one supreme leader. Um. I think that's what they would see. How would they what do you think their advice would beat us? I think they would tell Americans to get involved. Get involved on two levels. One, get involved in politics and make sure that you elect people regardless of party, of character and conviction, people who commit themselves to the founding principles of America, who understand why government should be limited, who understand why the people are the ones that should be listening to the idea of consents, totive government, the idea of what government should be small. I also think they would tell us to get involved in our communities because in the old days, you know, there were no welfare programs, there were no systems of public assistance. It was you and I helping each other. A neighbor's barn burned down, we raised that somebody was impoverished, We helped somebody lost their parents, we took them in. And Americans are involved at the community level. On on a big level. But however, we need more because what's happened. We've gotten entired of carrying for our neighbor so we let the government do it. We have a great homeless problem here in Seattle, but instead of taking them into our homes and and forcing them and compelling them to change their ways and get off drugs, we create a bureaucracy which then exists solely for the purpose of the bureaucracy, what we call the homeless industrial complex. We need more involvement in America, on both the political level and the social level, by good citizens who want to carry out the vision of the founders. And if we get involved, we can take this country back. We don't get involved, it will fall apart. Yeah, well, that's the problem is. I think it's falling so fast that it's um it's difficult to to stay ahead of it. Because most people, as we've aided, don't read the Declaration Independence, they don't read the Constitution. And young people I've seen a pole there that it was over fifty percent of young people polled are in favor of socialism, So they don't even understand the reality of the government we have. Yet they're in favor of governments that are historically proven to be tyrannical. Every parent's responsibility should be to teach their children what it means to be an American and guide them along the way. Don't let the schools do what you do it. This week, we should take time with our kids to read the Declaration of Independence. And Calvin Coolidge, who I think was a great president, gave a speech in ninety six and Philadelphia the one and fiftieth anniversary of the Declaration of Independence, and that speech which you can find online just google Calvin Coolidge speech Declaration Independence. He explains the Declaration Independence in America better than anyone ever has, Reagan all the others cooliesh has it down. And if we just read those two documents this week and the parent us and explain them to the kids, we can start taking this country back. But liberty is something we have to pass down generation generation, Jonathan, and we have to hope enough people get it, and the parents play a very important role on that. Yeah, that's definitely that I think. Definitely, if you see the reality of majority of problems in this country, they stem from a lack of parenting. People aren't aware enough or people become nefarious in nature because of it, and it just spirals out of control where the bad people always will try to climb to the top in a position of power, and the rest of the people that aren't educated enough to realize what's going on, they don't even realize the power that we have as a people. So right, too many people trust the schools and don't interfere and ask what are you what are you learning in school? What did you learn today? They don't interact with their kids. They ascend the schools do a good job. The advantage I had in teaching homeschoolers is the parents care. The parents care enough to forestall the second career in many cases to teach their children, and I was directly accountable to the parents and that created a great relationship with the kids. All too often we don't get concerned with what the kids are learning and the stuff they learned. The public schools in many cases just isn't right. Accountability. That's the thing. We put people in charge. We don't hold them accountable. We we we have kids and we don't make them accountable as well. Listen Kirby wilbur K v I talk radio host UH You have had a long career in teaching the history of this country. How do people find and follow you? They can catch us at k v I dot com or Kirby Wilberg Radio Facebook with a Facebook catch Kirby Wilber Radio or at KBI dot com and my email us there. I'd be happy to answer to the questions contact to anybody. I love interacting with people. And Jonathan and well, thank you for your service to this country. Is because it men like you that we are where we are today, and I thank you for that. You got to my friend. I'm gonna come back with Ron Bell and here in just a minute, retired master chief from the Seal Teams and one of my greatest mentors in life. And it's gonna be an honor to have him on following in the footsteps of Kirby as we talk about this and the reality of sacrifice and service. Uh, make sure that you go check me out on Twitter, Jay Gilliam Underscore Seal and on Facebook at Jonathan T. Gilliam. And I'm pushing a couple of things today. I really want people to uh to think about this. Go get my book Sheep No More, The Art of Awareness and Attack Survival. It's available on Amazon, Barnes and Noble. It's basically a book that will take your workbook to take you through and teach you and your family how to look at their lives from the attacker's point of view and do threat assessments on your life to build better defenses or mitigate these circumstances. Schools need this, Principles need this. UH daughters, sons, parents, UH mayors, the president should have one of these these books. Sheep No More, The Art of Awareness and Attack Survival. And again, a good friend of mine, Eric Church, the country music singer. His brother passed away on Friday. Brandon Church Memorial Scholarship has been set up. You can go and look at that online and donate and help them set up a scholarship fund and remembrance of him. Do that, and then also one last thing, We're gonna play another little bit of snippet of music here just a minute. When we come back from my good buddy Jeff Hyde and his his album Norman Rockwell World, go get that album. We'll be right back. This is Jonathan Gillham. We are just like this's like disco. We're bringing disco back on the John handy radio show. Yeah, that's gonna go real nicely into what I'm gonna talk about next, the Constitution. So listen, folks. Uh, my life, my adult life has been it's revolved around service to this country. I you know, I wasn't the greatest Navy seal, I wasn't the greatest investigator in the FBI. UM, But I'm not really concerned with whether or not I was the greatest. My motivation in a foundation of why I did the things I've done has been because of service and selflessness. I don't want to throw it in people's faces. I just I want people to understand that you can actually go out and serve and sacrifice. And for those young people who are afraid because they may have to go to war because they're not gonna get rich, I'm here to tell you will be rich whether or not you get to go to war or not. You will be rich, and uh the the most amazing way. You'll be rich in meaning You'll be rich and understanding. You'll be rich and awareness. And it's very important that you remember that and that when you try to make the decisions of your life, that you will think about this service and UM, I wrote a speech a while back. I'm not gonna read it right now, but it's I'll try to read it before the the end of the show. And it's about the perils of freedom. And it's interesting because when we look at freedom, and we look at the fact that we grew up in this free country, we take for granted a lot of the times. The things that we wake up to on a daily basis a pull east force that is not out too to censor you, but to but to protect you. A government that was put in place to ensure your freedoms and your protection, not to make sure that you work for them. These are things that you wake up to and you don't even realize it because you haven't studied it, because you were born into it. You wake up in a country where you don't have to be worried about being murdered because of your religious beliefs and your sexuality, your gender. You live in a country full of opportunity. You live in a country full of freedom. So we're gonna come back. We're gonna talk a little bit about those who serve and those and the realization that you are in the direct lineage of those that fought for our freedom. Jonathan Gillam filling in for Shaun Hannity. Go get my book Sheep No More, The Art of Awareness and Attack Survival will be right back. Well today you got Jonathan Gillham filling in or Gilliam, However I say Gilliam because it's hard for people to spell it if I say gil him. But Jonathan T. Gilliam, former Navy Seal, Federal Air Marshal, security contractor, FBI special agent, author, now media personality. And I worked in a grocery store a long time ago when I was in Arkansas. I'm from Arkansas, and I give Arkansas a big shout out. Um, I wanted to bring in somebody now that we're we've been talking all day about what the founding fathers intended, what the reality is of now in this country, and the reality of what has happened to the free citizenry and how they've been They've been misguided, they have gotten skewed as to the reality of how you obtain freedom and keep it. And I couldn't think of anyone better to bring in one of my greatest mentors in life, um Ron Bellan, Let me just tell you a little bit about this guy. He's retired Navy Seal Master Chief. He's hosted the first and only tactical survival and hunting show, re Ro Outdoors Survived the Hunt that's on the Pursuit Channel at nine pm on Monday's um And I'm gonna ask you a little bit about that show here in a minute. Ron. But Ron was when I was a civilian and I had done my whole package. It took me three years of being turned down to to go into the seal teams. It wasn't like it is now where you have dive motivators and seal recruiters. There was nothing, and my recruiters didn't understand anything about putting in a package. Nobody had gone uh into the seal teams from arks and trying to go through AFSCAR candidate school at that point. So at this point I had to find a seal to give me my p T tests. So I went down to UH Below, New Orleans where they had a special boat unit, and Ron was down there. And when he met me at the gate, just to describe what Ron looked like, cross between uh Tom Selleck and Sasquatch. He's about that big and he had that Yeah, that Tom Selleck mustache and I'm like, are you kidding me? This is what they really looked like. So, you know, I did my PD test, I get in and then I end up going to Seal Team four where Ron was at and he put me through land warfare, and we've had and how somehow we've ended up in uh the uh in media at the same time. And Ron has had a storied career. I would, you know, give my left leg to try to uh recreate the career that he had in the Seal Team. So Ron, uh thanks for being here. And I just got a text. I can't say his name, but I'll just tell you his code name, Dumpster Dan. Uh Master Chief says hello, alright, awesome, I'm doing good. But listen, I want to ask you. You know you we all, all those who serve, we fall in direct lineage of the founding fighters, not just the founding fathers, but the founding fighters in this country, the ones who fought against tyranny. What is it that's going on in this country? You think where young people don't want to serve because they don't want to go to war. Young people don't want to serve because it's it's not something that they you know, it's cool, it's or they deem it something that that those let those other people go serve what has happened to this country, um, and their understanding of freedom that those of us that serve understand what are they missing? I think it's uh what there was. What it is media. It's not only media, but the ability to uh of our technology these days too. You know, the left wing, the left side, whatever you want to call it, is actually you know, really good at what they do. And that's getting whatever word they have out on social media or the big time media. And that's what these young people are listening to. And it's infiltrated into our education system alway from elementary school always through universities. And I think as I travel the United States, and I travel it consistently, and I get to talk to schools and talk to these children, and after I give my spiel or you know, even if it's a come up and meet me, there's so many good America's out there. I just think we're really tainted with the ability of media, uh, and it's out it's it's uh, you know, because it's easy to get to. Back in the day World War two, people have to wait for reels to come back and find out what was going on. And now it's just uh, you know, wake up and look at your phone. Yeah, and and the things that they're seeing are easily manipulated. I would turned on linked In the day. I'm on all these different social media platforms, and on LinkedIn, people post stuff on there. I don't understand why. But they posted this, you know, a question, what is this? And the video was of all these car crashes and intersections, but it was just one car and there was nothing there, and it was slamming into something as if they were trying to make people believe that some ghost entity was in the intersection of these places. And I looked at the first comment and somebody just said, editing. That's it. It's just edited to make it. There's gonna be people that believe that's reality. And I can't help but think that the media does the same thing. Oh. Absolutely. So you look at YouTube, you look at Facebook, and you look at all these things that it's supposed to be free speech. Well, free speech only goes so far, and it's as far and left as you can go. So what that means is like YouTube and Facebook and Google and I can say that with Repreammunition, we have an immunition company, yet we cannot pay them to advertise they actually have ammunition and weapons listed with pornography and illegal drugs. Yeah, so that's what our young folks are actually seeing. And you know, it looks like Parkland. Then department shooting happened down in Florida, which is horrible, terrific. You know, they didn't get to see those other kids that were actually I wish there was somebody with a gun there and then and having that law enforcement actually, you know, step up to the plate and say hey, we were wrong. No, they went after it with social media and the left just got a hold of where they could actually go out and put these kids in front of millions of millions of Americans, if not the world, and say, oh, it wasn't It had nothing to do with the persons who did wrong, and everything to do with the gun. And the gun doesn't jump in someone's hand and and cause damage, it's the person behind it. So that's the problem. And that's why we look at America like this nowadays, like, man, it's really changed, Well, it hasn't. Politicians have been crazy since our founding fathers George Bush, I mean George Bush, actually George Washington said if we divided into two parties, will divide this country in half, and eventually it will go back to war. And it has. Yeah. I wonder though if they saw the reality of the tyrannical I guess that's probably what he was talking about. But the reality of how these two parties have actually are using the same tactics as the tyrannical king that they fled from. It's amazing when you read the Declaration of Independence and the and the bullet points. Yes, they used the bullet points. And that's how I know that these people were military minded, because they used if they would have had power point back then, it would have been a bullet point for him and they but they they actually put bullet points to show exactly, um what the king was doing. And it's very similar to what's happening now. Oh absolutely absolutely. I mean, you look back in the history. We had a civil war, we had revolutionary war, which we fought against ourselves. It wasn't another It wasn't the Dutch of the Spanish that came over here and started fighting for America. It was English, a lot of English, and that started fighting, and we did trying to link up with some French and that because we had to in Spanish, because we had to because of their nable and getting arms and stuff like that. But really it was English against English. That's what the Revolutionary War was. So in itself, it was a civilian civil war. And then you look at our actual civil war that we had with Lincoln being our first legitimate republican president. And if I'm wrong, and does anybody correct me, but as our first legitimate republican president, we had two parties and look what happened. George Washington was absolutely right. And now we look at today and we got Donald Trump as the president. Not one thing he does. I don't care what media stand is out there. They can't just go, oh, he's done great. No one sat down with the North Korean dictator before and had such an impact that we're having now. Yea, it may or may not come true, but at least he's doing something. You know, um when it was something you we talked about on my show The Experts that I that I do in the evenings. It's going to turn into a podcast now, but one of the things that we had talked about was that. I asked you, I said, what was different when you finally went to war? What was different from the training that we went through? And you said that it's a three sixty degree all the way around you, uh mission where you have airplanes, you have ships, you have other forces, and it's not just static and straight in front of you. It is literally you have you have to consider all the assets and things that you have in the enemy from a three sixty degree of you. I think that the American people offer from the same problem is that they haven't They don't realize that they're in the fight and they don't have this degree view. They just look at this is the government they're screwing us over, or I need this and they need to give me this, or I want to be recognized and so you give me recognition. They don't realize that there are so many other things in play, um that that make this country great or make the citizenry weak. Yeah. So I always tell people this, if you want to change America, number one, vote, If you want to complain about the way America is and you didn't vote, you don't really have anything to stand on. And here's your three sixty politics, your three sixty starts at the home. Who's your township supervisor, who is your city council? Who is your congressman, your senator? Is not just the President of the United States and his cabinet, not even close. When the n r A fights for the Second Amendment, everybody thinks that they're hiring a bunch of lawyers d C. To combat you know, whatever that president or administration is. Or No, they're fighting city ordinances across the United States. They're they're fighting state legislation across the United States. There's three hundred. There's a war going on between left and rights. And I like to think that, you know, we're common sense people. The majority of Americans are common sense. If you just say, hey, this is a common sense party, not independent party, common sense party, I think more people would sign up for that. Because I do have friends that are Democrats, that are gun owners, they're hunters, they believe in first second, they believe in the Constitution, they believe in that stuff, and they're just common sense. They just have some different beliefs. Then on the other side, and the last but not at least thing I'll tell you about, you know, the three six fight. When I look at my battlefield, and I want to set my battlefield up. You know, life is like that. You know, we set up our goals, we set this up. Who do I want to put my self on? On who side? Why? Look at the Democrats side, and I look at who's been in power in the Democrats side, had they legitimately ever owned a company and created thousands and or millions of jobs? But even on their own dime, have they created jobs? No. On the Republican side, I look at guys like Trump, He's created tens of thousands of jobs personally with his own empire, his own business. I look at you know, any Republican that's out there, and in a lot of cases, most of those Republicans have actually owned businesses before they got in the politics from one way or another. If you look at the Clinton administration, then you look at the Obama administration, they never created a job one other than you know, maybe an autobiographer, writer, or you know, uh security or something. You know, at Bernie Sanders, you didn't have a job to his forty depending on the state. Listen to these people who can't take a dollar and make it into a hundred, I would much rarely listen to somebody's gonna take a million dollars and be a ten billionaire and then have somebody running me that can't create a job in a in a Walmart. So I got about uh, I got about a minute left here before I got to go to a break. So let me just ask you this retired Navy Seal mass Chief Ron bell In, the host of the first and only tactical survival and hunting show Reaper Outdoors, survived the hunt on the Pursuit channel. Um, if you could tell the American people one thing that that that you think that they should consider um and they're understanding what's true and what's not true in media because you're saying, that's one of the biggest detractors we have from following what the founding fathers attended. What would you tell the American people Listen to your neighbor. Listen to your neighbor and your friends, because that's the people you have to concern yourself with. And then also travel, travel United States, go see things, Go talk to people. Quit being in this hole of looking down at your phone and never bringing your head out of the cloud because it's a legitimate thing now and talk to people and if you do, you're gonna be generally surprised about the people that are really out there. It's a small number people that are causing hate and discontent. It's a larger number who really make America what it is and it's always been great and will continue being great. Amen, listen, brother, thank you old Dan that's out there listening as well. Thank you Dan and and all the rest of the men that I served with. Royan. I can't thank you enough for all that you've done for this country. I say this every time you're on um. You have paid a huge price for this country and you are a legend in my mind, and I think a legend in many people's minds, and somebody that is a great mentor. And I can't thank you for all you've you've done. Thank you, Jonathan. I appreciate you having me on tonight. And uh, don't forget folks Independence Day tomorrow, and uh, for those who have carried the torches for centuries, I think that take a minute and think about that, you know, because we've lost a lot of good friends, and we just lost the state trup for up here by my hometown and yesterday, and uh, you know, it's been a big hit actually up here. So the thing is those people that protect us abroad and here, you know, we've got to give him a minute of silence and a minute of thought. And I think that, Uh don't go far with everybody out there. You got a brother retired, maybe you got it, retired Navy Seal Master Chief Ron Belling, God bless your brother. We'll be back on the Shawn Hannity Radio Show in just a minute. This is Jonathan Gillam filling in for Shawn Hannity on the Shawn Hannity Radio Show. Man. What a great group of guests so far. Um, I've been having a lot of tweets come out. Kirby Wilbur was who we had on earlier. He's a kve I talk radio host. People don't want to know how they can find him. Just look up Kirby Wilbur k v I Talk Radio and Ron Bellan. He's retired Navy Seal mass Chief, one of my great mentors uh in the seal teams. Uh, Folks, listen, I got just got a second here, go get my book Sheep No More, The Art of Awareness and Attack Survival. You won't be disappointed. It will help you and your family as you come back or as you're at the holidays, you come back, it'll help you understand how you can do threat assessments on your own life. Call in eight nine, one, seven, three to six. We're gonna come right back. This show is just getting started. We got one more hour, Togo, We'll be right back. This is Jonathan Gill, my team back there. Man. They're keeping me on top of things today, Ethan and Lauren and there's like fifty other people that work back here making this show go every day. I can't thank them enough for having me on. And tomorrow it's such an important day for this country, the Independence Day. We've been talking about the founding fathers, what they intended, uh, and I wanted and we just talked to Ron bell In a few minutes ago, Mass Chief from the Seal Teams, one of my mentors, and so we wanted to bring in. You know, I'm a huge dog person and uh, those of you know that I just lost my good buddy Rico. Uh. He was almost eighteen years old. He passed away May seven, lived an amazing life, buried in Arkansas next to my other dog Jesse. She was my pride and joy and um, and so I figured, you know, I don't know if you remember if you listen to this show regularly. We used to have a dog in her name, Treat, and she was an amazing dog. She was a service dog and she was going through the training. P assistant Lauren was, I guess you were kind of mentoring her, right, Lauren. I was a volunteer puppy raiser. So that means that you take the dogs, um, when they're puppies, and you raise them, You give them a good home, you socialize them, you teach them all the basic training, and then they go back for their advanced training and then hopefully they pass and become full fledged service talks and what is the update on Treat. By the way, Um, she has been placed with a veteran through the PTSD program. I loved her. She was so awesome. I know we miss her when you try to clip her tone nails. She didn't want anything to do with that. She would come a long way. Yeah good so Um. The Canine Companions for Independence is the nation's oldest largest assistance assistant I can't say that word assistance dog organization UH, serving children, adults, and veterans with disabilities. And interesting thing about them is that their forty third birthday is tomorrow on Independence Day. I don't know if if you all did that on purpose, but yeah, they did on purpose. So I think that's a great way to remember when you started your company. So, uh, we brought in um one of the one of the recipients of of one of the dogs from there, and he is a former US Marine, a third Battalions, Second Marine Regiment, Scout sniper. His name's Caleb Davidson. Let me just go through a little bit through his his resume of his career here. He started off as a male model. I'm just adding that in now. He joined the Marine Corps in April two thousand and seven. Uh. He was in the United States Marine Corps third Italian Second Marine Regiment, Scout Sniper Platoon. He deployed to Afghanistan in two thousand eleven to the Helman Province. He got out the Marine Corps in two thousand twelve UH and was paired with Velvet and two thousand and fifteen, Velvet is the dog. She's in here with us as well. Can she You said? She can speak right, She's let's see if she'll do it. She's a little shot in the air. But we'll see here it speak. She's try. There you go, quiet, good girl, Yeah, there you go. See that's what I'm talking about. That's the bond between man and dog right there. What a voice, She's got a powerful voice. Um. So he was paired with Velvet, who you just heard there in two thousand and fifteen. She's a six year old Labrador Golden Retriever mix and it was one of the first canine companions for independence dogs to be paired with a veteran UH in a v A study, and Velvet's training is tailored to helping veterans with PTSD UH diagnosis. Um. And she's just she's what else do you have to say about her? Just amazing? What has it done for you to be with her? Well, I mean they they train her. There's over forty different commands that she knows. But it makes extensive, extensive training, and so she can do a lot for me in that respect. But the biggest impact Velots had on my life is the fact that she's a companion. She's something some you know, an animal that I can take with me everywhere and uh and and that's always there, something that gives me a purpose and um, just something I can spend time with and enjoy a lot with. You know a friend of mine, uh that is amazing American patriot and and uh his name is John. He's down in uh in New Jersey. He's done a lot of metal work for my show and and help me out with a lot of stuff. He and Trish both Trisha's uh, his companion down there. They they have had succession of dogs throughout their lives and they ended up getting a parrot. I think he's a parrot. Pete's huge. But he because he lives to be like eighty and so he said he got tired of burying dogs because of the emotional because people who love dogs, they do become a companion. I mean my dogs were like my kids, you know, and uh, they they become somebody who in a in a lot of ways, when you have anxiety, when you have that stress, they are a consistent hero in the way that they rescue you. That's right. Yeah, they're family member. Yeah, they're one of us. Has there been times where you've experienced now where you know, if if Velvett wasn't around U, there would be a different situation. It would be a different outcome to situations. Absolutely. Yeah, those days I have, you know, off days or whatever, just like everybody. But it's those days that I can rely on her, I can look at it, I can pet her and just interact with her. Maybe go take your swimmings because she loves doing that, so she always gives me that outlet. It's something to do, you know, essentially, when I don't think a lot of people realize when you're in the military, your life goes It doesn't matter what you do in the military. You're you're in the military. Your life is a hundred miles an hour. You show up and you're on a ship. You may be chip and paint all day, but your life still has meaning and purpose, and you're being told what to do, and you're in service and people care about your service. And when you get out. There's two things that I think we lose that if you've had if you have PTSD or if you just have PTS, which is postraumatic stress, your life goes from meaning to even though we still mean a lot, uh, it goes to little meaning in your mind in the public's eye. You go from a job that keeps you busy and a hundred percent of time too. Sometimes nothing, and you're painionship. That camaraderie is instantly gone. It's I can only equate it to the day you graduated high school and the next day you wake up, you have no homework and nobody that you hung out with for twelve years is anywhere around. And a dog can do so much to fill that void. Yep, absolutely, yeah, it blows my mind what she does. Do you work with her to do more training yourself? Are you integrated with her training? How does that work? Yep? So I can teach her basically whatever I'd like to teach her. I mean, she knows the commands that she got coming straight out of training from mechanic commands for independence, but um, we can kind of tailor their training to whatever we like. So she explaining with toys, of course, being a dog, and so one of the first commands that I taught her outside of her original commands was clean up. And so she'll spread her toys all over the floor like any other dog. And I'll go point to a toy and tell her cleaned up, and she'll take it and go drop it off right in her little box. And I'll go another toy and tell her clean up, and she'll take it from any other room and go put it in that one single box, put them all away, just like any kid. Typical marine. First thing he teaches is to clean up. Hey, we're not talking about crayons yet, so we're all right. Yeah, But when it comes to you know, you can't uh, that was the whole thing. Until your weapons are cleaned. You can't have a beer. That's the whole thing when it comes to you know, when you're in the fielder, when you're in training. And so that's typical of a marine, good marine to teach his dog to clean up. That's that's pretty awesome. So what you let me just ask you this real quick because we are limited on time here. Um. I want to ask you two things. First and foremost is what are the qualifications for somebody to be to to get a service dog like this that's a veteran And how do they go about doing this? I think there's a lot there's a lot of veterans out there that don't think they're qualified or they just don't know how, and so they never pursue it. Right, Well, I got lucky enough. I went through the v A when they had that study. But obviously you have to have a primary diagnosis of PTSD. UM. But other than that, I mean, there's there's several different organizations throughout the country that are provide dogs for vets. So they can always refer to any of the local organizations. I know, can can I compan its for independence UM, They're currently in the process. They've got a pilot program going on right now to provide service dogs for veterans. But like I said, still in the process. I think she's trained specifically for PTSD, like she recognizes certain things that have to do with PTSD. She does yep, and her commands are based on veterans with PTSD as well. If I turn it on light searching rooms, anything providing like a block position in public, all sorts of different things like that. So and but for other veterans, I would recommend this, I know you would that maybe they don't have PTSD, but they just got out they have PTS where they're they're stressed, they don't have that meaning anymore. Getting a dog is just an amazing even if you rescue it from the pound, it's uh, it's an amazing thing to change your life and give you meaning again it is yep, and not even you know, just for everybody, not even veterans, anybody to have a dog. That just makes the world of difference. So let me see us before we go to break. This has nothing to do with velvet, uh, but in a way it kind of does. You have been have been a marine, You paid a huge price for their freedom of this country. Would you recommend for those people that are driving down the road, those people are home listening to this show, um, and they're wanting I'm seeing a great disconnect between the parents and the children. Parents weren't educated enough in history and service, and the children are not educated at all. And what would you suggest to people, um and understanding what services all about, how important is and what it actually does. Even though you have made these sacrifices and you've had uh these issues when you got out, would you do it again? And what would you recommend to other people or not recommend? What would you tell other people to help them realize how important services and what it does to you on the inside. Well, I'll start off by saying that I was over and by the North Cove um the Manhattan the other day, and I looked over and saw the Statue of Liberty, and I know a lot of the locals that might take it for granted just because they see it every day. But I just kind of hit home, like I just got goose bumps just looking at the Statue of Liberty for something like that. But I guess the biggest thing is I would definitely do it again, without any question. I do it again. You make that camarader you make that brothership with with those guys that you're with, and there's nothing that can compare to that. So now do you think that that what you see in a lot of the young people today? Um, and they're afraid. They don't want go on the military because they're afraid to They're afraid to go to war. Um. You know you people do come back with injuries, people do get killed, But ultimately, uh, standing um at the ready for freedom. What does that do knowing that you did that, what does that fill you with? What is that that you can convey to them? Excitement? That pride? Pride is the biggest thing in a legacy. Absolutely. I mean, if you and I died today, we have a legacy that we actually stepped up to the plate and served regardless of regardless of you know, whether you're in combat, regardless of whether or not you come home with an injury. The fact is you when when you die, we all will. You will have a legacy that's pretty amazing. Only one percent of the population and gets that now, right, And Uh, we're here for the most eighty years, dead forever or gone. I mean we're not. I believe we live forever, but but gone from this earth. It's it's pretty amazing when you think about that. And and even serving in just the military is great, but being in the brotherhood of the Scott Sniper community is as a whole nother world. Oh yeah, we could do a whole show on that. We'll have you back and we'll talk about that, and I'm good, and we'll talk about your service, we'll talk about who you're with. I'd love to have you talk about that. Um Kanaan Companions for Independence, as I said, it's the nation's oldest and largest assistance dog organization, serving children, adults, and veterans with disabilities. And their birthday is tomorrow their forty three birthday. Forty three is my favorite number, is Richard Petty's number. Uh, And you can visit them at c c I dot org to learn more and can we have Velvet speak one more time before we go to break? Here we go speak, Here we go. She's getting up. She's intense. White man, that's a park like God. Bless you, brother, Thank you for your service. Happy Independence Day to your wife and to everybody else out there that is served, and to Velvet and all the service dogs out there, all the police dogs, all the canines that just do so much for Scott Blusher, brother, thank you, you got it. This is John the gill And filled in for Shawn Hannity on the Shawn Hannity Radio Show. You can find me on Twitter Jay Gilliam, Underscore Seal and on Facebook at Jonathan T. Gilliam. We're gonna be back here in just a minute. Talk to Greg Jarrett, you know him from Fox News, and we're gonna talk about the reality of what's happening in this country today and how far we've come from what the founding fathers intended. Go get my book Sheep No More, The Art of Awareness and Attack Survival. It's this is John the gill And filled in for my good buddy Sean Hannity Shaun Hannity Radio Show. Man, that was awesome having Caleb in here. And uh, one interesting thing that I forgot to say is that he goes to uh Utica College I think it is, and uh so Velvet has been going to every class that he's gone to. He's trying to get her a diploma as well, which I think is is awesome. Uh well, Ethan pointed out she's better, She has a better attendance right than most students, so she definitely get her diploma. Yeah, she's been. And the other thing I forgot to mention is that c c I dot org that it's free for veterans. They don't play anything for that, uh for the service for the service dog. And that's a huge, huge amount of money that they put into that. And so I'm getting a lot of a lot of tweets from people, uh a lot from veterans and people that have been chiming in on different things. I just wanted to say a few of these things. Um Timothy Bell Latimer, he's listening. Uh, he wrote, reading the Founders is necessary, but if you want to understand why uh they thought the way they did, you have to read and discuss what they read. Uh lock uh Berkeley, Um, Voltaire Plato. They read all these things. These people were very very well read. Uh. This could go on and on, Thomas Paine, and you should read these things, you know. That's the thing about in this day and age. If it's not u uh in a meme, then people don't want to They don't want to read, they don't want to learn it. Which there is a good meme though that Kevin Stucky on Twitter posted and he said, um, uh, if you want to learn about what it what it is to protect this country, what the country needs that, there's an app for it. Uh. It's called the Constitution. That's the app. Uh. See what else we have here on Twitter? Um, there was a see there's oh this is somebody brought this up. It's in Russian, so I can't read what this is. But they were talking about how there's no rule of law. We haven't even talked about the news of today. Um, but I ran ah on he Uh he gets a sweetheart plea deal. The d o J is only going to uh can charge him with bank fraud and uh somehow he's escaped any other charges. Folks. When we come back, we're gonna talk to Greg Jarrett in just a second. You've seen him on Fox News. He's got a new book out, and we're gonna talk about what has happened in this county train where how far we've gotten away from what the founding fathers intended. This senior executive service, which I've talked about on this show before. That's all the the high end political appointees and uh and executives in the government, how they seem to get away with They probably would get away with murder, uh if they tried to murder somebody, but people that are connected to them also get away with stuff. Peter Struck, uh Page, the attorney that was having the affair with Peter Struck. All these people, uh McCabe, Comy uh Mueller, Clinton's now now the all One brothers, all of them, They're all they all get away with stuff. It's amazing. We're gonna talk about it when we come back. Go get my book Cheap No More, The Art of Awareness and Attack Survival, And don't forget the Brandon Church Memorial Scholarship. Please go online and donate to that. I want to get over twenty thou dollars and keep raising this for a a scholarship in his honor. This John Van Gilham find me on Twitter. J Gilliam Underscore Sealing on Facebook. Nathan T. Gilliam, We'll be right back. This is John the Gilham filling in for my good buddy Sean Handy real quick Ethan before we bring on Greg Jared. I wanted I don't know if Greg. I guess Greg's on here. I've really wanted him to hear. Uh this music from good buddy of mine. Jeff Hyde. He is one of the musicians that you see playing on stage with Eric Church, the country music star, and he's got it his incredible song and it's called it's called fiction. Let's play just a few seconds of that, just down fiction to keep up with the truth. I can't ye enough fiction, keep up with the truth, I think Greg. I think that says it all right there, wouldn't you agree, hey, Johnathan, great to be with a good song. And yeah, it has been a fiction for two years since the FBI and the Department of Justice started investigating Donald Trump for so called collusion, which is not even a crime excepting antitrust law. And they never had any evidence of a crime to justify a criminal investigation, so they changed it early on to a counter intelligence investigation. It turns out we now know they had no intelligence to justify the intelligen counter intelligence probe, and then of course it morphed into this absurd special counsel probe by Robert Muller and his team of partisans. So yeah, fiction, that's a beautiful song to summarize what's happened. That's and that's Jeff Hyde. You can get that on iTunes and Jeff Hyde music dot com. But let me just say this. You have a book that's coming out, and those of you you know here, I don't have to really tell people who you are, because I gotta tell you you have one of the most recognizable says. I think that's in television today. When I remember the first time I was on set with you over at Fox News, I was sitting across me going I felt the same way when I was across from Heraldo. I was like, I can't believe I'm across from Greg Jarrett. I mean, your voice is just that recognizable. But you've written a You've written a book. It's getting ready to be released. It's called the Russian host hoas the Illicit Scheme to clear Hillary Clinton. Um, it's available for pre sale right now on Amazon. Uh, how much when you look at this, okay, and when you were doing your research for this and you cover these stories, Um, how much of this stuff is for somebody like yourself that's in the media is mind blowing because you report stuff all the time about what's going on in government, and government has been corrupt, you know, for as long as governments have been around. But this has to be mind boggling, you know. Frankly, I've never seen such a fraud perpetrated on the American public since Water Gig, quite frankly. And I was, you know, a young man when that took place. And to think that top officials at the Department of Justice and the FBI, Uh, they're the ones who colluded, uh, in order to clear Hillary Clinton. And then they went about framing Donald Trump. And actually, you know, Jonathan, they did it. They started the Trump Russian collusion case on the very day, within hours of James Comey absolving Hillary Clinton in is now infamous news conference July fIF two and sixteen, Almost simultaneously, the FBI was meeting for the very first time with this former British spy. They were doing this in London on the same day that Comy was clearing Clinton, they were meeting with him and he was handing over this dossier and I you know, it's published, people can look at it online. It is a far on its face, it is totally preposterous. In any intelligence semi intelligent person looking at this dossier would have immediately said, oh that you know, this is fiction. This is the work of a really bad first time novelist. Uh. You know, anonymous sources, second third, fourth hand hearsay none of it would ever be usable or provable in a court of law. And yet the FBI ran with it in order to destroy Donald Trump. And you know, this is the arrogance of power of people like James Comey, Andrew McKay, Peter Struck, Lisa Page. The list goes on and on, and power corrupts, and as the old saying goes absolute power corrupts absolutely. And this is what happened. And when you look at the fact, the fact that aren't readily reported, uh that this sime uh intelligence operative from Europe, from from Great Britain was also a paid FBI informant at one point that the dossier that he wrote just happened to be written precisely in a way that a FISA court judge could approve it um. Even though normally the process that these verification that these uh something like this dossier would go through is extreme and most get kicked back. UH. This only went through a minor review and then was approved as a piece of evidence. It is that from when I look at this from a former FBI investigators UH viewpoint, I look at entrapment, the whole thing looks like, we need some evidence. Let's make it. Okay, we got it, now, let's get it legitimized. They did that, and then they pinned on the president. That's the way this stuff is worked. And it was all paid for, by the way, about the Hillary Clinton campaign, and then the Democratic National Committee spent more than a million dollars fulling it to Fusion GPS, who then gave it to the British spy was apparently paying uh some of these alleged Russian contacts that he had. He hadn't been in Russian in twenty years, and he didn't have any contacts left in Russia. And the fact that it was paid for by Democrats in Clinton was concealed from the face judges who were reviewing the application for a warrant wire tap the Trump campaign. And there is a veiled, a cryptic reference in two footnotes, and I you know, I've read them, and I mean, there's no way that you could tell that the money came from Hillary Clinton and the Democrats. You know, this is a fraud upon the court, which, by the way, is a crime if lawyers are the FBI or the Department of Justice do that. It's also called abuse of power, which which is a federal statue that makes it a felony to do what they did. Well, there's there are so many felonies if it was a normal person and not at this senior executive service which I keep talking about, or people connected to this SCS program, which I think is a whole book and of itself. Let me ask you this's real quick. You know that you hosted just the other day. The show is going by so fast. We got about three minutes left. I want to ask you, Um, there's two headlines that are coming out and I want to get your opinion on these things. And then if you don't mind, I'd like to have you back on Friday show, uh, to cover just a little bit more of this but um, how do you do it? All? Right? Great? Okay? So the two headlines are the House Committee subpoenas, FBA agent struck to testify in public. I think Page may have been uh subpoena as well. I want to get your opinion on that. And and also Devin Nunius Warren's Obama officials willingly testify on Russia investigation or face subpoenas. The question I guess halfway is how powerful these subpoenas? And Greg, we've been seeing this again and again, what good does any of these things do? Does Congress have any power left? No? Functionally they don't because for too long they never enforced subpoenas. So the Department of Justice and the FBI got out of the habit of just ignoring them or defying them with impunity. Yes, you can hold somebody like Rob Rosenstein in contempt. There's a resolution to do that if he doesn't turn over documents by July six. But you know, contempt is nothing. You know what asked Eric Holder. He was held in contempt, it had no effect on his career. You would have to impeach him, but that that requires two thirds of the U. S. Senate you'll never get that with Democrats opposing it. That what ought to happen for people like Rod Rosenstein, for example, who continues to defy lawful subpoenas, is the President should send him a letter and say you are hereby directed to comply fully with all lawful subpoenas issued for the House Intelligence Committee. Failure to do so as grounds for termination. And if Rosenstein misses the deadline on July six, you got to be fired by the President who is in charge of the Department of Justice and the FBI. And he can do that, and absolutely he can do that, and he should do that, and he cannot be accused of obstruction of justice because what he is doing is upholding justice and the rule of law. Congress has the authority of oversight. It's in the constitution. They issue lawful subpoenas and they cannot and should not be ignored. So let's have you back on UM on Friday when I'm hosting again, and let's talk a little bit more if you don't mind about your book, the Russian hoax, the illicit scheme to clear Hillary Clinton, because I want to I want to see that right now. The headline about the m r n all on uh situation and he's only gonna be charged with evidently bank fraud. UM. I want to see how that turns out over the next couple of days, and then we'll come back and have you on Friday. That okay, we'll do it, Jonathan, Thanks for having me on. You got it. Greg Jarrett, Fox News analysts and host of the book The Russian Hoax Illicit Scheme to Clear Hillary Clinton. This Jonathan Gillham filling in for Shawn Handy. Find me on Twitter j Gilliam Underscore Seal and on Facebook at Jonathan T. Gilliam. We'll be right back. This is Jonathan Gillham back in for Shawn Hannity on Shawn Hannity Radio Show. I'm gonna see you all again on Friday, and I just wanted to leave you real quick. See if I can get even get through this whole thing. A poem that I wrote a while back, let me just give it a shot. Here. We're gonna close out. Don't forget the Brandon Church Memorial Scholarship Fund. You can find that on my Twitter, Jay Gilliam, Underscore Seal and on Facebook at Jonathan T. Gilliam. Go donate to that and go pick up Jeff Hides album. Uh It's Norman Rockwell World. You can get that at Jeff high music dot com and on iTunes. So I just want to read part of this because I don't think i'll get through it, but I want you to think about something as I read this, and I wrote the US about the United States, And there there's a great mountain upon which many minds, young and old have gazed upon. God himself shines his grace upon this mountain, lights so pure and loving that it draws forth greatness and inspires true seekers to sacrifice for the greater goods, so that all may partake in its glorious victory. Leaders of men, inspired individuals, and freedom seekers have sought the path to the top of this great mountain, hoping to find freedom, unity, and equal rights under God. Anyone that has fought the good fight and striven to achieve the greater good has looked up and eventually realized that reaching the top of that great mountain is not unachievable, but it is a quest that can only be achieved through participation of the entire citizenry. This is the truth about that mountain. All must drive as though the climb depends on their efforts alone. Well, At the same time, everyone involved must understand that no single human is capable of sustaining a solo climb, nor are they worthy of standing at the pinnacle and claiming it as their own. But there's another truth about this place where the light of God shines and his glory prevails. Those that wish to control and enslave their fellow man will also desire ownership of this great mountain. They will lie and convince the masses to give their lives for the climb, while constantly feeding them a distorted perception of the purpose and meaning of the quest to reach the top. This distorted understanding leads straight to the servitude and dependency. Unable to think for themselves, the masses duped into the climb through the deception and trickery and nefarious lives, will begin to believe that they themselves are working together for the collective equality. That is what's happening today, folks. Yet the sad reality is that the wolves of power have no interest in sharing their position at the top. The wolves use the knowledge and experience of the sheep like wrongs on the ladder to increase their position and stature, while the sheep blindly give over their freedom and ultimately their lives to oppression. And that is where we're going. Yet, there is one last truth that we must understand, and we must understand it now. Is the truth that cannot be comprehended by great liars of history or those in the league with them. That truth is this, While God may have granted freedom to each individual to be ensured through the Constitution, those rights are completely dependent upon a united citizenry and the great mountain of which I speak, where the sacred pinnacle exists, upon which the light of God shines and its glory rains. Well, that great mountain is named America, and it's citizenry or what is actually the heart of this great mountain? I'm john to think, Gil, and I'll see you again on Friday. Maybe I'll read that again and give you the full speech. I want you to go donate to the Brandon Church Memorial Scholarship. Do it help them get a scholarship to remember Brandon. That's Eric Church's brother, the country music singer. Go pick up Jeff Hide c D. All the music we're playing today, a lot of that came from his CD and go get my book Sheep No More, The Art of Awareness and Attack Survival. It will help you stop being dependent, it will help you be empowered. Listen, I believe in this country. I believe in you, and I believe in the independence that our founding fathers gave their lives for, that men fought for two and forty two years ago. You are a direct lineage of those individuals born into freedom because of them. Don't lose it because of you. I can't thank you enough for tune in. I'll see you again on Friday. We're gonna talk some more about this. But remember as you celebrate tomorrow, as you drink your beer and eat your food and have a great time with your families, remember freedom, as we always say, is not free. It comes with a price, and that price has been paid by the blood and sacrifice of other free human beings, free Americans. God bless you, God bless you, and thank you for all that you do. And don't forget to go to CCI dot org as well. Help those veterans get those support dogs. I'm Jonathan Gillham. I'll see you on Friday on the Sean Hannity Radio Show. God bless