Trump Was Right Again - 4.3

Published Apr 4, 2017, 1:06 AM

The news of the day noted that former National Security Adviser Susan Rice might have led some of the efforts to gather surveillance on President Donald Trump and his staff. So, the liberal media was very critical of President Trump's claims that he was "wiretapped" but it seems there is some truth to the claims... perhaps the President was correct? The Sean Hannity Show is live on weekdays from 3 pm to 6 pm ET on iHeartRadio and Hannity.com. 

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All Right, it appears some good news and that is that healthcare is hopefully back on track, and my understanding is is that those negotiations are gonna be ongoing. I did like what Ryan said, you can't put a timetable on this because one of the things that I think it was so poorly mishandled by the how US the last time in leadership. Maybe when they get a final bill, they can let everybody see it, make sure there's consensus, make sure it has the votes to win and then let the president unveil it. And my sources in Washington say, the president's up to his eyeballs himself personally reviving these talks and trying to get things done. But you know what details are we have will be forthcoming. Um um. I have no idea where that came from. That's pretty funny though. Anyway, now I don't need stop. Do you think I'm Hillary Clinton? Thing? I can't talk through a little coughing fit here. It was one quick second, it's over. I feel better. My My team in there's like, why are you panicking? I can handle it. I'm just making sure you have what you need boss. You know, I just kind of inhaled the wrong way. Campaign very very healthy though. All right, but our top story today is everything we have been covering and telling you is turning out to be true. I need a new cutlast, by the way, and that is you know, all last week I was telling you about Evelyn Farcas and what Evelyn Farcas was. Well. The reason I was so upset last summer I was getting winks and hints from inside that there was something really wrong here. Evelyn Farcus admitting that there was unmasking, Evelyn Farcass, corroborating that Donald Trump was right. Evelyn Farcas even talking trying to get this information to our friends on the hill. What are they talking about intel? You can't spread intelligence anyway. So you know, we had a bombshell report come out of the Fox News channel last weekend, which the fake news Democratic press is now desperately trying to ignore. Now, I'm gonna make a prediction based on everything we have built up to this point. People, very high level people at some point are going to be indicted. There will be people going to jail. It is absolutely a necessity. Now Evelyn Farcas, I have it on pretty good authority, and I predicted this last week. She's gonna be called before the House and Senate intelligence committees. Uh, why did you say all of these things that you knew about surveillance back in July, that you knew about unmasking, that you wanted to get this information to your friends on the hill. Well when might we're learning enough now that it might even be bigger than that anyway, So the media is going to try and ignore this, just like they they went after Devin Nunez. Nuness and and try to attack him. You notice that Adam Schiff, I mean, the most dangerous place to be in the last three weeks, but it was between a microphone or a television camera and Adam Schiff. He's been living on TV, living on attacking devon nounas well. Now that he went over to the White House and actually saw the evidence, he's been awfully quiet lately and the things he is indicating seemed to think that he actually came to the same conclusion as New Newness. Anyway, So what we learned over the weekend, which the news is going to try and to ignore the all left propaganda destroy Trump media that if and by the way, when this turns out to be true, it will be the biggest political scandal in American history, barn none. And it means the Obama administration was using America America's intelligence and the intelligence gathered and I'm not talking just about to tell I'm talking about raw intelligence like their own personal East German secret police force to spy on their political opponents and go after enemies, which is, by the way, if it's right into the way, the Obama administration used the I R S to go after political opponents and shut them down, especially in the lead up to different elections. And on top of that, Fox News they're investigated reporters Adam Housley and Malia Zimmerman. They actually corroborated a bombshell revelation from Evilyn Farcas, which he made not to NBC on March second, but in that February sixteenth interview that I uncovered at vox dot Com, which we broke exclusively on TV on Friday night. And according to Evelyn Farkas and now Fox News, the surveillance of Donald Trump wasn't merely of his transition team, which meant it would have been that would have started after the election. The surveillance of Donald Trump actually began well before he was elected, during the height of the presidential campaign. Now stop and think about you have a sitting administration literally surveilling an opposition party candidate. And according to Evelyn Farcas and now Fox News, that that in fact happened, that would mean that the Obama wire taps weren't just designed to undermine the Trump presidency, but that became the fallback strategy only because Hillary lost. But if this surveillance was going on during the campaign, and Sarah Carter and John Solomon broke that story right here. It means it was designed to steal the election from Trump. It means that that there was an attempt here to gather intelligence. And by the way they they're they're a little clever in this and as much as they're using usual intel methods. But here's where it gets very, very interesting, is that the National security chief remember last remember last week, why did I say, pay attention to these words surveillance, unmasking, and intelligence leaking. Those four words were key all last week. Eli Lake, who's gonna join us at the top of the next hour, wrote a blockbuster report on Bloomberg News that White House lawyers last month learned that Obama's National Security advisor and BFF Susan Rice requested the identities of US persons from the raw intel agents reports on dozens of occasions that were directly related to the Trump transition and campaign. You know what this means. This never happens. Let me explain when our intelligence agencies, for example, let's say they're spying on somebody from Russia, China, Iran, wherever, it doesn't matter, and and in the course of legitimate surveillance, there is an American that is caught up in that surveill, Well, there's no Americans have constitutional protections Fourth Amendment rights, First Amendment rights. They have protections against unreasonable search and seizure. So if you don't have a warrant either fives or a criminal or otherwise, and in the course of surveilling some foreigner, an American is caught up in it because they're talking to the foreigner i e. General Flynn as a perfect example. Well, then what they're supposed to practice, what's called minimization. Minimization is they're not supposed to expose or really listen to what the American is saying because that's not lawful because they don't have a core order or a FISA warrant. So that surveillance against the American is highly sensitive and illegal. And in the process when they write up reports, standard operating procedure is they never mentioned the American by name. They'll usually say an American. That's how they handle that, and then they usually minimize the part that the American is talking about. That's what made would happen with General Flynn. Not only did they surveil illegally, then they unmasked illegally, and then they leaked the intelligence and he lost his career over it. That's a felony, that's a crime, that's a violation of the Espionage Act. Anyway, So what we discovered is Susan Rice frequently requested the identities of US persons that were caught up in legitimate eavesdropping. Do you understand what I'm saying. In other words, if in the case of Flynn, they're surveiling the Russian ambassador, well, incomes General Flynn is doing his job and he's getting ready for his new job, and he's reaching out to his Russian counterpart. Our intelligence agencies are surveiling it, but they don't have a warrant to go after to go after General Flynn. So number one, his name never should have been revealed, and minimization processes should have been put in place, and he certainly shouldn't. That intelligence rare intelligence never should have been leaked. Anyway, We've now discovered that Susan Rice had numerous requests. It was now discovered a National Security Council review of the government's policy of unmasking the identities of these individuals in the US who are not targets of electronic eavesdropping. They're not allowed to be surveiled as a matter of course. And in February, the National Security Council Senior Director for Intelligence Ezracone what Nick discovered Rice's multiple requests to unmask US persons and intelligence reports that were related to the Trump transition team. Who were they talking to why were they talking to them? And he brought this attention to the White House Counsel's office. White House Council's job is to follow the law anyway, who then reviewed more of Rice's requests instructed him to end his own research into the unmasking policy. The intelligence reports were summaries of these monitored conversations primarily between foreign officials. That's why Devin Newness said that they were legal and as much as yeah, we're allowed to surveil our enemies, but it bothered him greatly because we were unmasking the identities of Americans anyway. One US official familiar with the report said they contained valuable political information on Trump and on the Trump transition team and who Trump and the team was meeting, and the views of Trump's associates and foreign policy matters and plans for the incoming administration. Now Rice had no business to ask for that unmasking, and then who knows who is responsible for the felony committed against Lieutenant General Flynn. Now, Susan Rice was in an interview back when in Mark March twenty two with Judy Woodruff, and when we come back, she actually lies and denies knowing this, even though it's now reported she purposely asked for it. This is really bad, and you want to know why it's bad, because you have a right to privacy as an American and you don't want your government surveiling your phone calls, your emails, your text messages, because then it can all be used by by people without any scruples or morals to destroy innocent people's lives. That's why it's illegal. Alright, So I have insomnia, but I've never slept better. And what's changed just a pillow. It's had such a positive impact on my life. And of course I'm talking about my pillow. I fall asleep faster, I stay asleep longer. And now you can to just go to my pillow dot com or call eight hundred zero nine zero, use the promo code. Hannity and Mike Lindell, the inventor of My Pillow, has the special four pack. 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Now again we now know, as Eli Lake and Fox and others are reporting, she was asking for the unmasking, in other words, the identities of Americans that never should have been surveilled. Listen to her not tell the truth here. I know nothing about this. I was surprised to see reports from Chairman Unas on that count today. I mean, let's back up and recall where we have been. The President of the United States accused his predecessor, President Obama, wire tapping Trump Tower during the campaign. Nothing of the sort occurred, and we've heard that confirmed by the Director of the FBI, who also pointed out that no president, no White House can order the surveillance of another American citizen. That can only come from the Justice to Partment with the approval of a FISAC coord So today, I really don't know to what Chairman Nunez was referring, but he said that whatever he was referring to was a legal, lawful UH surveillance and that it was potentially incidental collection on American citizens. And I think it's important for people to understand what incidental means. That means that the target was a either a foreign entity, or somebody under criminal investigation, and that the Americans who were talking to those targets may have been picked up. Nobody's saying that the surveillance of for example, a Russian or some Chinese operative or Iranian operative is illegal. But the fact is that she is asking for the identities of the Americans that were not the target. And when she says I've never heard anything about this, what now has been contradicted and that she herself was asking that Americans in these instances where there was surveillance of Trump Tower. Now, remember Sarah Carter John Solomon confirmed a FISA warrant was issued in October, as was a criminal warrant, not nothing to deal do with the with with Donald Trump, but as an ancillary part of the investigation. Remember, the pings to the Trump server lead investigators to surveil the server and other things. Yet wire tapping is the wrong word. It should have been surveillance. As the same woman that lied about Benghazi and what happened there on the five Sunday shows, she's not exactly a person that I put my faith, hope and trust in or believe could be capable of honesty. We'll get to more of this on the other side, this is potentially massive, the biggest case ever, adds me. I guess I'm bad for America. Maybe I'm bad for liberal America. Maybe I'm bad for fall flawed, failed government. Yeah, I'm bad for that. So let me just summarize here. So now we have Susan Rice now caught as the person that is trying to unmask people that are not the target of surveillance, and that, in fact, surveillance took place against then candidate Trump and then President elect Trump and the entire transition team, which has been confirmed for November, December, and January. For what earthly purpose would Susan Rice be unmasking the names of those people that were caught up in legal, legitimate surveillance except to advance the narrative. Now, it explains Evelyn Farcas's comments last week in Toto. Apparently a lot of people knew that the surveillance had taken place, and she was corroborating and confirming it. Now, the question is did it really go back as far are as as July. How long did the surveillance take place? Who knew what, when and where? That's a pretty fascinating development, you know, now we've got Adam Shift. Adam Shiff was whining and complaining, and the media was whining and complaining all last week. Kevin Newness had no business at all being the person to go over to the White House and and get this information. Well, we now discovered what happened in this case, and this was in Eli Lake's column from earlier today, and that is that, well, the White House Council became aware that in fact this intelligence existed. Well, what's the White House Council supposed to do at that point? White House Council is supposed to Okay, Well, let's make aware those people that are in the intelligence community, and that would be okay, the House Intelligence Community chairman. Now here's you know. Multiple sources now have confirmed to Fox, for example, that National Security Advisor under Obama, Susan Rice, she personally made the request to unmask out of the surveillance legitimate surveillance of Russia, China, other countries, anytime there was a conversation with anybody on the Trump transition team, and the unmasking of names and and people associated with Donald Trump were then sent to the entire NSC and some of the Department of Justice and James Clapper saw it, and John Brennan saw it. Basically the people at the top, including the former Deputy National Security Advisor Ben Rhodes. So I want to know what all these people saw, and I want to I want to ask why didn't anybody see a red flag? Because you're not supposed to unmask or surveill Americans, especially an opposing political party, which is what happened here. All these names from the Trump campaign were part of incidental what they call incidental electronic surveillance, but it ended up also being surveillance of a candidate, the president elect, and people close to him, people part of his transition team, also including family members. It could have been going on up to a year, up to a year, It's possible, Fox reports now when the names of Americans are incidentally collected through legitimate surveillance. Has now explains Stevin Newness's comment that it was a legal surveillance, but it bothered him because the people on the other and the Americans identities are supposed to be protected because you don't have a warrant to surveil an opposing political party. Then it raises huge questions about whether or not intelligence gathering legitimate intelligence gathering was used as a ruse to really surveil the main target, which was Donald Trump and his transition team. You see how bad this gets. Now, think about this. When the names of Americans are in an incidentally collect did which is what Noon has said, they're supposed to be masked. In other words, their names and identities, as a matter of standard operating procedure, are redacted from reports. Doesn't matter if it's international domestically domestic collection. Let's say there was you know, a legitimate warrant or a target of an American, It doesn't matter the person that is not the target. Their identity is supposed to be protected. That should be for obvious reasons, to ensure the privacy of the American people and yes, presidential candidates, especially especially if you're talking about an administration that's so deeply opposed to a to an opposition candidate anyway, So those names are supposed to be redacted when reports are written at standard operating procedure. Here, they don't even name the American even if they recognize for exact Let's say, let's say they were surveiling China and I called somebody in China and that call was being surveiled, Okay, legal surveillance, Fine, you don't write. And then Sean Hannity called, and Sean Hannity said this, that would be illegal because they don't have a search warrant to go after Sean Hannity. Now, let's say I said something on the call. And let's say Susan Rice, who hate Sean Hannity because Sean Hannity doesn't like Barack who's saying Obama. And then let's say they unmasked my name and then they leak it to the press. Sean Hannity talked to this corrupt Chinese official and Sean Hannity as a trader, whatever way they want to spin it, You got it. You can't do it. You you subject every American to a police state and a police state tactics. You understand how dangerous this is. And let's say, well, well, let's say that Donald Trump in the transition was flirting with some old girlfriend of his. Okay, it's nobody's business. There's real danger in surveilling innocent people that then could potentially be used to blackmail them. I don't want my wife to find out I was flirting with that girl or this girl or whatever. I'm just using that as an example whatever it happens to be. But you get you get the point. So anyway, they're supposed to be redacted names. When Americans are incidentally surveiled, whether it's international or domestic collection, it doesn't matter unless it's an issue of national security. Now, if they heard me say it is some guy in Russia, oh god forbid, I would never say it. Of course, obviously I want to blow up this or that. Okay. At that point, then they have every right to keep listening because now national securities in play, or I'm gonna rob a bank. Okay, Now they have a right to listen because the crime is being contemplated. But they are very strict, stringent rules and procedures that are to be followed. In other words, if their security isn't threatened in any way. Now there are loopholess way to unmask people through back channel. And this is what Susan Rice was asking for as it relates to any surveillance quote incidental surveillance that took place and that was connected to anybody in the Trump team, Well, there had to be tons of surveillance because their job there with their incoming job was to meet with and talk to counterparts all over the world, and every one of those calls could have been surveilled legally anyway, so you know if you go through back channels. Even then, Americans are supposed to be protected from incidental collection. It's a process known as minimization. You minimize what it is that you know about the American that is incidentally picked up in any type of surveillance. You protect their identity. Now this all comes in the wake of Evelyn Farcas and her ridiculous comments on Liberal Joe where under the you know, former Secretary Defense under Obama saying I was urging my former colleagues and frankly speaking the people on the Hill. It was more actually aimed at tell the Hill people gather as much intelligence as you can before Obama Leave's office. Hello, that would be leaking intelligence. Who are the four our colleagues she's gonna leak it to? That's what it sounds like to me. And in the meantime, we're told that the House Intelligence Committee Chairman Deva Newness knew about the unmasking and the leaking back in January, well before President Trump tweeted in March that he'd been wire tapped, by the way, probably used the wrong term. What he was saying is I was surveiled. They were gathering intelligence on the president elect and the candidate as well. Do you see how dangerous this is? Do you understand the magnitude of this anyway? So sources are telling Fox now the intelligence agencies slow rolled Devin Newness. They did it on purpose because they knew what had really gone on. In other words, he could have seen the logs at other places besides the White House, but it had been already a few weeks. So he went to the White House because he could protect his sources and he could get the logs. So it was smart for him and perfectly legal, as I told you last week, to do what he did. And then the Democrats, they don't want to focus on the fact that the presidential not only an incoming president of president elect and a presidential candidate was being surveiled by the the current administration during a major political campaign. They'd rather focus in on, well, why did somebody, why did Devon Newness go to the White House? Because the White House Council told them to go there, That's why. And he was brought into it specifically. Now keep in mind as the Obama administration left office. Then it gets into twelve triple three, the executive order that I've been talking about for weeks. What's Executive Order twelve triple three. It was the amendment that the President signed and apparently others in the illustration, including the intelligence people like Brennan and Clapper and I'm sure Lauretta Lynch all signed off on that allowed sixteen other U. S. Intelligence agencies to have access to the raw data. Well, that makes it harder to find out who leaked it. M hmm, Anna, you're believing in conspiracy. One of the things that's fascinating is Adam Schiff, who couldn't couldn't You couldn't get him off a TV or radio. Now all of a sudden, he's clambing up all of a sudden, shifts nowhere to be found. And he actually said, I can't say whether anything was masked or unmasked properly, because he knows damn well that what Susan Rice apparently was requesting here was not good. And Susan Rice now has either way, this is an announcement. If anybody knows Susan Rice, we're not saying she's guilty of anything, but we may want to consult a really good attorney today, same lady that lied about Benghazi to us repeatedly. You've got the computer logs of President Obama's team, what they left behind in the White House. Well, it indicates that Susan Rice access numerous intelligence reports during the last seven months of Obama while he was in office that contained n SA intercepts, all involving Trump and associates. And Sarah Carter has a similar article out today over at Circuit News, and intelligence sources say the logs discovered by the n s A Council staff show and suggests that Rice's interests in the NSA materials, which included the unmasking of American identities, appeared to begin around July, the time that Trump secured the GOP nomination, and then it accelerated after Trump's election in November. So they basically have been surveiling Trump for since last July. And the intelligence reports included intercepts of Americans talking to foreigners. That makes it legal, but they're not the target they're supposed to be protect. Did their identities protected? The process of minimization should have kicked in nobody's name should have been masked as a matter of standard operating procedure. They should have just written down American and not given any details, even if they knew it was Trump or anybody associated with him, and most, if not all, had to do with the Russian election interference. That then explains farcas. This also explains the comments of Devin Newness. This is now beginning to unfold exactly as I told you it would. And ordinarily references to Americans are adapted or minimized by the n s A before being shared with outside intelligence sources. But in these cases names were unmasked at the request of Susan Rice, or the intelligence reports were specific enough that the Americans identity was easily ascertained. They're supposed to protect their identities, and the exact national security justification for Rice accessing and unmasking these reports isn't clear. The only obvious answers she was spying and wanted to spy on Trump and his transition team or his campaign before the election occurred. So it raises a lot of interesting questions here. How how the information was disseminated beyond Rice. That's also got to be a major focus point in terms of looking into who knew what, when and where and congressional oversight, and since lawmakers may want to know if it was brief to Obama himself or Ben Rhodes himself. Rice is I guarantee you Rice is gonna clam up now. One intelligence professional with detailed knowledge of how the NSA and other intelligence agencies share information with the White House during transitions told Circa that u S intelligence reporting on foreign leaders perceptions of Trump spiked after his election win in November, creating a trove of information that could be accessed by the outgoing White House. There's always intelligence reporting on an incoming president and how the world's reacting. But this election was not like any other. There was a report in spikes in the amount of intelligence being gathered. Devin Nunius turns out to be a a hero in all this. You get what I'm saying here? Do you understand the magnitude the proportion? If you think Watergate break in was a big deal, don't you think it's a big deal if they were surveilling a candidate, an opposition party candidate, a transition team and using national security as a cover, Because that's what it looks like happened for one. 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We're getting to that, but our top story Eli Lake, Now, Fox Now, others all admitting what we have been telling you is true, and the headline of Eli Lakes columnist top Obama advisors sought the names of Trump associates and intel in other words, White House lawyers last month learned from the National Security Advisor Susan Rice had requested the identities of US persons, in other words, unmasking and raw intelligence reports on dozens of occasions that connect to the Donald Trump transition and campaign. What was she doing this on her own or at the behest of a nosy president anyway, the don't no Rice's request was discovered by the National Security Council review of the government's policy on unmasking. What is unmasking? What are the three things I keep telling you to pay attention to? Surveillance? Yes, that's been converned, firmed of candidate Trump, of President elect Trump up until when he became president November, December, and January. And then I say, the most important thing after that is all, right, intelligence leaks. What was I saying last week? Pay attention to four words, right, surveillance, unmasking, intelligence leaking. So those are the four words. Well, now it is all coming together, and there's there's so much about this that's getting interesting. And then you got Adam Shift. Adam Shift was literally the most dangerous place in America up until this weekend was between Adam Schiff and a television camera because he was racing every camera. Well, now his remarks seemed to support Devin Nounez and Trump's claims, and he's going dark. And add to that the actor that we've we've focused so much on last week, which was Evelyn farcass is big reveal as it relates to oh yeah, unmasking and intelligence leaking and and trying to save it. It's all now beginning to come together. And Chiff says that that Trump wants to focus on tweets, not on the Russia prob but he goes silence after silent, after he finally reviewed the new nest documents. All right, so let's go to Susan Rice when she was on PBS with with Judy Woodruff and listen to what she said and her denial. No wire tapping occurred to Trump Tower. I'm not aware of any order. Given a spread intelligence amongst government officials about Russia that appears now to be a lie. Pay close attention. I know nothing about this. I was surprised to see reports from Chairman Unis on that count today. I mean, let's back up and recall where we have been. The President of the United States accused his predecessor, President Obama, are tapping Trump Tower during the campaign. Nothing of the sort occurred, and we've heard that confirmed by the Director of the FBI, who also pointed out that no president, no White House can order the surveillance of another American citizen. That can only come from the Justice Department with the approval of a FISA court. So today I really don't know to what Chairman Nunez was referring, but he said that whatever he was referring to was a legal, lawful UH surveillance and that it was potentially incidental collection on American citizens. And I think it's important for people to understand what incidental means. That means that the target was a either a foreign entity or somebody under criminal investigation, and that the Americans who were talking to those targets may have been picked up. In the last few weeks, The New York Times has reported then, in the final days of the Obama a ministration, UH individuals went out of their way to spread information throughout the government about what they knew about intelligence that the Russians had interfered UH in the election last year, and that there may have been a connection with Trump campaign officials. So that story has now been out there for several weeks. Could there be a connection here, I'm not aware of any connection. I had read the New York Times story at must say Duty is one of the most senior White House officials and the most senior responsible national security. I found that report a bit perplexing. I was not aware of any orders given to disseminate that kind of information was having, So I have no idea whether that was the case. But the fact is that uh In, the president did request back in December, and the intelligence community compile all of the information that it had on what it transpired during the campaign with respect to the Russians involving themselves uh In the presidential campaign, and that report was provided to the American people and unclassified for him into Congress. Uh In classified for him in early January. Did Susan Rice just lie there joining us? Now? Eli Lake? He had a blockbuster report on Bloomberg Today about how White House lawyers last month learned that she, Susan Rice, had requested the identities of US persons and raw intelligence reports. That is called unmasking. Eli, welcome back to the program. Thanks so much for having me. All right, why don't you explain what you learned and to the extent that this went on. First of all, unmasking certainly confirmed surveillance, does it not? Well, what unmasking does is it means that someone who's political, in this case, it's Susan Rice who is, you know, the National Security Advisor. She has policy reasons for seeing the most you know, sensitive intelligence, but she's also a political appointee and somebody who works directly for Barack Obama. And the question is that it was, as it was described to me, the kinds of reports that she would get where she would see a name Black that we're clearly things having to do with either conversations between foreign officials about the Trump transition or conversations with a Trump transition official and someone who was under surveillance a foreign target. And then she would say, I'd like to see who that U S person is in order to get more information on things that at least we now know from from Devin Nude as is what he said two weeks ago, that had nothing to do with Russia. So so this is this is very important here. So in the course of the n S A doing their job, which is eavesdropping, and this, let's say, in this case on Russia, or it could be China or ran or any of our adversaries, friend or foe, it doesn't matter actually, but they're doing their job now. But to surveil an American would require a court order, wouldn't it wouldn't it require some type of warrant. That's right. If you were going to put a five A wire cap on the communications of an American citizen, you need a court order in a secret court known as the Fisi Court. But there is also lots of Americans who will be spoken about or speaking with someone who's already being targeted for legal reasons, usually a foreign entity or something like that. And when that person is being scooped up, or you've been scooped up, if you've had any conversations with you know, foreign diplomats or foreign ministers or things like that, chances are there will be you know, at some point in the raw data, your name will be there and what you said. The reason the system that we have so that we make sure that this sort of thing is not abused is that that name needs to be minimized. It needs to be blacked out. You can't know who I am, you can't know the identifying characteristics. If you're just trying to focus on the one person who you are legally, he's dropping. Let me let me let me help my audience out here, because a lot of people don't understand the terms that you're using here So in the course of serve veiling, let's say it's a Russian ambassador a Chinese ambassador, which we want them to do, right. If that if that Chinese ambassador, Russian and an ambassadors talking to an American, then there is a process that is known as minimization. In other words, that they will they might be aware of who the purpose person is, and but they don't usually when they write up reports. To correct me if I'm wrong, standard operating procedure is they would not unveil or unmask the name of the American when they write that report up. Is that correct? That's right? And here's an important distinction that the people who would know the US person are in the bowels of the National Security Agency or somewhere in the intelligent community. Either are not political appointees, They're not people who would use that information for some sort of political ends. They're just they're collecting this stuff and they make sure that it's minimized and then it goes out to government officials. And that's the way the process is opposed to work. The story here is that in a view of the logs of the National Security Council, it was discovered by one of the new Trump staffers who was in charge of intelligence, that there had been a number of the requests to find out who the US persons were that were blacked out in trummaries of monitored communications sort of raw intelligence reports that would describe a conversation between uh someone in the Trump transition and again a foreign official or to foreign diplomats discussing a meeting they may have had with the Trump transition official, things of that nature. And this was a pattern and anomaly where you saw again against Susan Wright's requesting to find out who that U s person was, When this staffer of the National Security Council named des Ripell and Watnick discovered that, he then takes that information to the Office of General Council, the lawyer of the President, and says, I want you to do something with this. The Office General Council says, I want you to stop the review that you're doing there on this poll, see if I'm mapping, And then the Office General Council then proceeds to look into it. And what they've now done is to share this with the House Intelligence Committee. We know that Adam Schiff and Devin Unis have of course seen this stuff and uh, they've offered to share this with the Senate Intelligence Committee to have Congress properly investigated. So doesn't it sound to you highly inappropriate and that this now has become a political sitting administration politicizing raw intelligence and in the process requesting the unmasking in particularly focusing on an opposition party either running or a transition team that is doing their work in the lead up. Now, if if the four words that I keep saying to my audience matter, well, number one, this would confirm that surveillance of the Trump transition team at least took place, and that that that unmasking happened because Susan Rice was requesting it. And then we have to ask the question, well, how did Lieutenant General Michael Flynn, you know, his that raw intelligence in his case was leaked and it ended up with him losing his job. Over it all that I want to I would just say a couple of caveats. The real scandal here might be that everything that Susan Rice did was legal, and that we need to reform the law to make sure this doesn't happen going forward us. But I gotta, I gotta take a break. But you would agree with me that the league of the league is a crime. Absolutely, that is a felony under the Espionage Act. Correct, Yeah, I mean I think there's specific wire tap information laws. But you're right, all right, stay right there. Eli Lake is with us with the Bloomberg and he wrote this great piece today. Hey, many times in your life, for whatever reason, something comes up you need extra money and maybe a home equity loan to make a lot of sense to you. Then there's times when you need a loan really fast, you don't want to do all the paperwork. Well that's where my friends at t R Y s o f I dot com come in. They have a very simple, fast, easy way that you can get personal loans and it takes about two minutes of your time. Just apply online. You'll know immediately how much money you qualify for. And best of all, a tri soupie dot com personal loan is a fixed rate loan with rates as low that can be as low as any home equity loan. 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And as we continue, Eli Lake is with us with Bloomberg News, and we're discussing, of course, the surveillance of then Candidate Trump and then of course President elect Trump and his transition team, and also the unmasking now that we've discovered and Susan Rice's request to unmask people, in other words, the raw intelligence and which is very it's not within standard operating procedure by any measure, and then it gets taken to the next level, for example with General Flynn. All right, when Susan Rice said she didn't know about wire tapping occurring, and when she said she wasn't aware of any order given to spread intelligence. Um, was she telling the truth in that interview with Judy Woodrof Well, I think she has a little bit of wiggle room there because she was talking. I mean, I think we may have been responding to the tweets from Donald Trump, which is which is really literally not correcting that there wasn't a wire tap of a fisit sort on Trump Tower? And then she claimed not to know what Nudace was talking about, which I think, you know, she should revise and extend her remarks because it appears now that you know, this was getting at this unmasking issue. Now in fairness, when this story originally broke, I think because we're dealing with very classified information, some of the most tightly guarded stuff, that Noon has had to sort of talk around some of these issues. So he spoke of intelligence reports and incidental collection, you know, did not connect it originally to the issue of unmasking. So that may give her some technical wiggle room, but I think that she will have more, you know, questions to answer down the road. All right, So then the next question is, let me play for you Adam Schiff and what he said, and he's gone uncharacteristically quiet since all of this. All right, but let's listen to what he had to say. There's no definitive proof of collusion between the Trump camp and Russia. Let's play it. Can you say definitively that there was collusion there were people affiliated with the Trump campaign who were working with Russians to time the release of damaging information about Hillary Clinton that had been that had been hacked, either UM, John Fodesta or the d n C. I don't think we can say anything definitively at this point. We are still at the very early stage of the investigation. The only thing I can say is that it would be irresponsible for us not to get to the bottom of this. We really need to do. We really need to find out exactly what the Russians did, because one of the most important conclusions that the intelligence community reached is that they are going to do this again to the United States. They're doing it already in Europe. So we can say, you know, conclusively, this is something that needs to be thoroughly investigated. But but it's way premature to be reaching conclusions. All right. He seems to also support Nunez and and and Trump claims that surveillance took place based on what he saw when he finally went over and looked at the information. Well, he's he's keeping fairly tight lit about it. And I think again, I would just stress here that you know, when you're dealing with classified information like that, it does get uh, it becomes difficult to talk in too much detail about what's going on, which is one of the reasons why, um, you know, I'm my sources are on background and not on the record. But and he is interesting because if you remember, Representative Shift was talking about more than circumstantial evidence, uh not even I think a week ago regarding collusion, and now he's saying, at this point, we're still investigating it. And I think that that is the responsible position at this point, in that there hasn't been any kind of smoking gun. And you know, the other thing I would do, by the way, James Clapper said it, Admiral Rodgers said it, and James Comey said it. But what call me wouldn't admit is whether or not there's an investigation into the into the leaking of intelligence information which we know happened, which we know as a felony. Well, I mean, James Comey has created so many problems for himself because if he can give details about an ongoing counter intelligence investigation or at least acknowledge that, and why wouldn't he talk about other kinds of investigations. I know the Tree Gaudy and other members of the video on the public side are very concerned about that. I'm very concerned, all right, Eli Great War By the way, Eli Lake, He's gonna be on Hannity tonight with Sarah Carter and we're gonna do a deep dive into this because it's getting more interesting by the day, and it seems the media was wrong on every single solitary point. Everyone one, Sean, you want to be a part of the program quick break right back. We'll continue holding them accountable. Sean gets the answers no one else does. America deserves and know the truth about Congress to the top of the hour, toll free tell phone numbers eight. Seawn, if you want to be a part of the program, Big Week. As it relates to the President, he's gonna be meeting with what the head of China, and he met today earlier with President Abdel Fatah Alcisi. Remember he's the one guy in Egypt that really stood up to radical Islam and what became a historic speech on on his part, and frankly a very courageous one. And also we now have reports that a defector from North Korea is saying that Kim Jong un would in fact use nuclear weapons, and that issue begins to heat up as we speak. Anyway, here's the President talking to President Alcisi and the Egyptian people. Here's what he said at the White House earlier today. It's great to be with the President of Egypt. And I will tell you President l c c has been somebody that's been very close to me from the first time I met him. Uh I met during the campaign, and at that point there were two of us and we both met and hopefully you'll like to be a lot more. But but it was a very long It was supposed to be just a quick brief meeting, and we were with each other for a long period of time. We agree on so many things. I just want to let everybody know in case there was any doubt that we are very much behind President l CCI. He has done a fantastic job in a very difficult situation. We are very much behind Egypt and the people of Egypt and the United States has believed me back in and we have strong backing. We are very much and as you and I will do soon talking, we're building up our military to a level that will be the highest, probably the highest that we've ever had. Plane orders, ship orders, aircraft carrier orders. We are rejuvenating our military to the highest level I think in these times, probably more than ever before, or certainly almost more than ever before. That's what we need. And I just want to say to you, just the President, that you have a great friend and ally in the United States and in me alright. That was the president with the President of Egypt, Delcci. One of the things that I guess in the aftermath of Obama's reckless foreign policy and stupid Iranian deal, I guess one of the benefits that emerged from that is the creation of a new alliance that has emerged between the Saudias and Israel, between Israel and Egypt, between Israel and Jordans and the Arab Emirates. Can he get to this and all the other issues as it relates to uh this, Colonel Oliver North is with us knows a thing or two about the Middle East, as he once went there with a suicide pill in his pocket in case you ever had to take it. Thank god you didn't. How are you, sir? And alright, we've got a lot of different issues on the table here. Let me start with this. Then we'll get to the attack in Saint Petersburg and Russia. And but first I look at alsis is is almost like a modern day Anwar Sadat. If you ever read Anwar Sadat's autobiography, it's it's amazing the guts and the courage that he showed in an effort for peace and eventually ended. He lost his life over that, that alliance that he created with Israel, but he lost it to the Muslim brotherhood. That's not that's correct. I can't forget that too. Um L Cisi seems to be a guy that understands the dangers of radical Islam and is not afraid to say it. He does. In fact, he's probably offered the best secular challenge to radical Islam of any Arab leader. I mean, what he said about it is almost a year ago, and he's refined it since it's a challenge to the Imams, the Molas, the Ayatolas. No matter what they are, the radical Islam no longer has a place on the planet Earth and his his charges those we sometimes I think mistakenly call it moderates, but the challenges for them to stand up and and take charge of Islam so that it's not perceived I think rightly it is as a terrorist entity. Well, I think that, yeah, I think what's happening now, don't you think Jordan's, the Emirates, Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Israel all recognized the real, clear present danger of Iranian hegemony in the region and absolutely absolutely, and of course those are Sunni Islamic states, and they realized that what you're what, what we're on the cusp of, is an enormous civil war that goes on between Shiites dominated by Iran and the Sunnies, which quite frankly started their own terrorist organizations back in the eighties after they watched the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps created by holmani usurp Islam. And that's what really happened if you you consider what was going on prior to nine. When the Homany comes back from Paris, goes to comb and eventually overthrows the Shah, the creation of the Islamic People often get it wrong. They call it the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps. It's not. It was the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps. And that's how Shi i Islam was going to take over and dominate all of Islam. One. In response to that, you had the sellafuss and you had the wahabbies saying, hey, wait a second, we can do even more because there's a lot more of us. Of course, that's where al Qaeda comes from, That's where Isis comes from. And now you've got the potential for a major cataclysmic event. The worst part of it, Sean is you now have read on the cusp of nuclear weapons in the hands of the Ayatolas in Tehran, and unfortunately they have a very apocalyptic perspective on what's going to happen. They see mag and magog armageddon. For those of us in the Judaeo Christian traditional they have this belief in the in the Madia is gonna, you know, comment that's gonna be the ultimate Islamic Yes, but that that lends itself to those who have those kinds of weapons in their hands to precipitating the kind of event that will bring about that cataclysmic end. And unfortunately, uh, the Iranians. When we first started talking about this conversation and Lenn it was on phone with me and sending me emails back and forth, it was Russia, North Korea and Iran. Almost known is paying any attention to the secret collusion between the North Koreans and the Iranians on two things, number one nuclear weapons and number two intercontinental ballistic missiles. Both those countries are getting away with it because no one's paying attention to what the collusion that's going on. And unfortunately, there are Iranian scientists in North Korea every time they do a nuclear test or an I C B M test, And the same is true in reverse, because the North Koreans send their people to watch the Iranians and they exchange information, they give each other advice, and it would not be at all unexpected. I don't think it should be unexpected that you have a an announcement from both sides, one in the Pacific with North Korea and one in in the in the Middle East from Iran that they now have nuclear weapons and and dare the world to deal with either one of them that way? So you're saying there's an unholy alliance and their trading information. And on top of that that there is a good possibility the Iranians, because of Obama's bad deal, would get nuclear weapons with the help of the North Koreans. I don't think that's even a possibility. I think it's an absolute fact. And unfortunately, we don't have an intelligence service that's able to put all that together. But if you all you have to do is look at the open source. You have to look at the look at the photographs that come out of all these tests in these laboratories. There's Iranians there, there's North Koreans there. What are they doing. They're working together to come up with a miniaturized nuclear device that can be put on the tip of a missile, and missile number one goes into Tel Aviv, not Jerusalem, and the missile number two hits a US based somewhere. It's pretty scary scenario, but it's well I'm trying, I'm trying to be upbeat, but somebody has to speak reality here. And unfortunately, what was done to our intelligence services in the last eight years before Mr Trump got to Washington was to emasculate the in collection of the human intelligence that would give us that stuff, that in politicizing it, which we now see that happened to General Flynn. And these revelations today about Susan Rice asking for the unmasking of raw intelligence, would you know and I know never happens. Well, it should never happen by treaty. By the way, the world has been divided up into five sectors. By treaty. The United States has certain places where it collects intelligence and we share it with the others. And those others are Great Britain, Australia, New Zealand, and one other one. And and in those cases what they do is they collect in their particular areas and they share it. And part of the treaty is you're not going to reveal things that are super sensitive. There are code words for this stuff, Sean, I can't even say on the radio because I signed a nondisclosure agreement that the code words pertained to the collector and the dissemination of it. And by a treaty, we've agreed not to print copies of this stuff and sent it around the government. Before the Obama administration town they broadened the distribution of that kind of intelligence what's called raw intelligence all over the government. And apparently, if this thing is right about Susan Rice, Obama's National security advisor, she exceeded her bounds by leaps. I couldn't even imagine in my day to disseminate the raw information with the names in it and what's now commonly was unmasking. You know, where is Russia in all of this? Because all right, now we have this, this what appears to be a terror attack tonight. Now the Russians have had their own radical Islamic problem over the years. But anyway, the latest update is we've got what ten people killed, at least of the fourteen people, you know, according to other unconfirmed reports, forty people injured. An explosion tore through the train in Carnage in St. Petersburg in their metro tunnel earlier today. But you know, now we've got Vladimir Putin seemingly you know, dealing with Iran, seemingly dealing with Syria and Turkey and and seemingly you know, looking at what the outcome and Syria is ultimately going to be for his own benefit. So where is he in this? I would add to that, add to what you just said the relationship that exists and has for a long period of time, all the way back to the fifties with the Kim dynasty inside North Korea. And so what you really have is what I call a triangle of evil. You've got the Russians dealing with Iran, You've got the Russians dealing with Turkey, You've got the Russians dealing with North Korea. And if you think about it, Vladimir Putin is not in great shape. I mean, he looks good on a horseback without a shirt hunt. But his allies are crazy despots in Point Yang and crazy Jahadis in Tehran, both of whom could well start World War three in less than a year. So the Trump administration, which came into town saying that they were going to try to get something going with the Russians, had an open window for a while. I would tell you that as of as of today, despite what just happened in St. Petersburg with it what is undoubtedly a terror attack, despite that, politically in this town, it's going to be very difficult for anybody in Washington to include the new president from opening up a new overture for some kind of accommodation with Moscow and Putin's governing a dying country. It covers what nine Times owed. It's a demographic time bomb. The Russians don't reproduce. No one emmigrates to Russia. There's a million fewer Russians today than they we're two years ago, not getting any better because nobody goes there, and as soon as they can export a pretty woman, she comes and marries somebody over the internet. By the way, it sounds like the same move from New York. There was an article today more than a million people moved out of the state of New York to other parts of the country since at a rate of four point four percent, which by the way, is the highest negative net migration rate among the nation's large population centers. And I'm still stuck here, paying stay out in New York Virginia, Now, buddy, it's not it's by the way, the Commonwealth isn't that much better either, So let's be honest here. But there are better states like Texas and Florida. Hey, listen, we'll continue with Colonel North on the other side. We'll get to your calls. News round of information overload also coming. If you are a regular listener to the program. Hey listen, we all like family time. Here's the problem. You sit around the table, Easter's coming up, and before you go and sit down and eat dinner, or even during dinner, everyone's using their gadgets. Everyone's on their phones, everyone's on their computer. Nobody ever talks to anybody anymore. 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All Right, News round Up, Information Overload your calls coming up at the bottom of this half hour eight nine for one Sean. So a lot of reports this weekend that there is some ongoing negotiations, that they have revived discussions, although thankfully maybe for the first time, nobody is out actually out there talking and negotiating in the press because I I thought it was so mishandled the the reveal on the first plan to repeal and replace Obamacare. Anyway, So hopefully they're also looking at free market competition solutions to the problem, because that's the answer. I mean, if you have cooperatives like our buddy Josh humber down in Whichita, Kansas, Well, that's an option that I think a lot of small communities and towns can use. Maybe not big cities, but maybe you can't even translate it into some big cities. If you are offering health savings accounts, that's a great way for young people to build up a pretty hefty nest egg over the years and their healthy years so when God forbid they get older and they get sick, and they have a heart attack or a bad accident, or God forbid to get cancer, they'll be fine, and they'll have the money to pick and choose where they want the best care and where they think they get the best deal. The fact that I keep hearing that these negotiations have been revived and it seems like they tant has been reached between the Freedom Caucus and and it's critics, and as if they were responsible for this breakdown is a is a good sign to me. Joining us now the former looks on a governor of the great State of New York and has been involved. She carries around and sleeps with the Obamacare bill every night, and she's now the chairman of the Committee to Reduce Infection Deaths. Betsy McCoy's with us. Dr josh Umber of Atlas m D. I mean he created the cooperative now that has been duplicated by hundreds of other practices around the country where adults only pay fifty bucks a month for unlimited care, children ten bucks a month for unlimited care, forty eight cents for a an X ray, and reductions because he negotiated directly with the pharmaceutical companies, including even some some chemotherapy type of drugs. So welcome both of you back to the program. Betsy, I guess it's to me this is very critical. This is not something I know people got a little bit angry that it didn't happen right away. But from my perspective, if improvements are made to the bill and it's more free market oriented and it's the right answer, I don't care how much time it takes. I'd rather get it right than get speed. Your thoughts, Oh, I so agree with you, Sean. And the fact is the Freedom Caucus has done a great pervice to the nation. Of course, I wanted the bill to go through. When when Speaker Paul Ryan stood up there at the podium that Friday and said Americans would be living with Obamacare for the foreseeable future, I was extremely distressed with him, because all of us want to see Obamacare repealed. He shouldn't have thrown in the towel. In my view, he should have said we need a few more days. Um. But the fact, well, I I actually blame him for part of this. And as much as nobody saw the bill before he unveiled it publicly. Nobody, not one person had a chance to read it, and he misled the president about having the votes. Yeah, and he also built zero consensus. Now we all know the Republican Party, like the Democratic Party, is a coalition party. You've got some liberals, you've got some moderates, you got you know, the Tuesday, the Sunday, the Wednesday, the Saturday Night drinking Group, the Freedom Caucus, you know, I mean, the study group. It gets to be insane, and everyone's got their specific agenda. But at the end of the day, it's not going to be a perfect bill, but it's gonna be infinitely better are than anything Obamacare gave us as long as it's free market oriented. Right, Well, that's right. And the original bill, the Ryan Bill, let's call it, did three things very well. Repealed the individual mandate to relieve those eight million people currently incurring penalties. Have repealed the employer mandate, which should create an enormous amount of hiring, and also ensured that people who have been demoted to part time status get their full time jobs back. And a reformed Medicaid, which is threatening us with a tidal wave of red ink. But it didn't do one thing. And here I can quote Louis Golmert, one of our mutual favorite friends. It did not lower premiums. And the Freedom Caucus had the answer for that. They had a very sound answer. They were going to repeal the wacky rule in Obamacare that requires health insurers to charge healthy people the same exorbitant premiums as very sick people. It's not that we're leaving sick people defend for them selves, but it provides another much fairer way to subsidize care for the sick and relieve healthy people from the unfair burden of having to put those bills in their premiums. I think that you've raised such a good point, and listen, at the end of the day, nobody in this country gives a rip about what reconciliation challenges exist for the Senate. They don't care about the bird rule, and they don't care about culture. What they want, Let's face it. By the end of the week, let's face it, we hope that the filibuster and the culture rule are things of the past. I agree with that too, and if that, if that happens, then this is we can make it the best bill ever at that point, because they not have to consider any of those Things's predicted in a few days now that Rand Paul and others have gone out and played golf with the President Trump and exchanged these views in a calmer circumstance, that we will have that bill that does all the things the original bill did, plus that critically important components. Nobody's going to happy lowering premiums. And by the way, people want the ductibles lower two and they want better care. You can't see the chihuahua and a Great Dane for the same price. And that's what Obamacare was forcing healthy people to do. They were they were the bill. You better be careful because the great Dane is going to chew up the chihuahua and then have that for breakfast. Uh. Dr Umber, let me bring you back. And I gotta be honest. There's been a lot of people that have been asking me about you from Washington, and I do know that there are people advocating not only for health savings accounts, but also to incentivize the type of cooperatives that you yourself have designed in Wichita and had duplicated around the country. Do you think it's something that even big cities cann't handle. Absolutely. We have doctors um you know, in small towns of a few hundreds too obviously large urban areas doing this model. And I think what you guys are talking about is the GM pre leadership is isn't really good maybe leading. They've always been the party opposition, or at least for the last eight years, so to get into a role where they had to bring people together. I think we can repeal the place if we had a plan good enough to get sixty votes. And I think the direct care model of actually lowering the cost of care, well, let me let me say, I don't think there's one Democrat doctor m but not one. I mean if if literally they if Donald Trump was offering the best care for the lowest price, every Democrat would oppose it just because it's Donald Trump. Well, but no, I think there's a lot of vulnerable Democrats in states where where Trump wont handedly and and if okare continues to go forward, it continues to hurt people. So despite that, they want to find some solution and they can't be obstruction to set either. And direct care is easily the largest option to come along, you know, unlimited care, no copase, free visits, huge, saving some medicine lads. By the way, if I got you more patients because I keep talking about you NonStop, happy doctor, more patients. Oh, we'll spend my app tonoon answering phone calls after the show airs because people call and they want to find a doctor near them. They they need more affordable healthcare and and that's that we're this conversation. How how many how many other cooperatives did you help doctors form at this point or how many people came to you and and you shared with them the model and they're duplicating it. As of the first of April, we now have over two d fifty clinics that we've personally helped get started UM. But there's probably between five hundred thousand doing UM some variation of this model, but there could be hundreds of thousands of doctors doing this. This is just the start, and unfortunately there's a lot of people asking for this and there isn't a direct care provider near them, So we're telling them go out, talk to your doctor, tell them there is a better way. This is a grassroots movement led by patients. By the way, the only people that I could see angry at this or the insurance industry and maybe the pharmaceutical you know, distributors want to control doctors and patients. They were angry too, But I gets wonderful what what dr Umberg is doing. And I'm a strong supporter of the American Association of Physicians and Surgeons. People should go to their website and really learn how you can have a relationship with your doctor that keeps the insurance companies and the bureaucrats out of the examining room. And it does lower insurance premiums while improving insurance company profit. So I know that sounds odd, but this is more like car home life insurance. So there is a way that we can take this to me, how do they make more money because they sell more catastrophic plans and they're not involved if you stub your toe. Same reason my life insurance makes money is they don't use them for all the little stuff. And if we're out competing Walmart, Target CBS on medications, we're lowing the cost of labs, were eliminating paper, we could reasonably decrease the cost of care in this country a significant amount. We're able now with even less an ideal policy decrease employer health insurance premiums by sixty percent. If Trump could do that, trump could lower taxes and he'd have an economic boom. I would last. Well, let me ask you this, what where did this originate from? What made you start this? Well, you know I had watched doctors leaving insurance since two thousand when I was a premed student, because it was broken then and it only got worse. So over ten years, we watched a lot of different doctors try a lot of different things before coming up with our model. Uh. And there are a lot of just wonderful doctors who we learned from in that process, and then a continual evolution of how do we find the best value for our patients? And I think if we keep asking ourselves that are hypocritic, oh should you know of do no harm? Shouldn't do no financial harm? Physicians should take it that proud responsibility um that to be looking for, for example, lower care. So when the cost of pharmaceuticals and you negotiated what reduction on average? Is that the built in profit? If I go to a CBS or a rite aid, some of that's built in profit. And but I think a lot of it is built in inefficiency, and so I do think the big box stores could be a lot more aggressive on the value proposition, but they're not having to be. We have a broken market because the consumer pays their ten dollar copay and then they try to build insurance for the most that they can, but then they don't get paid on every prescription they hand out because of insurance rules and red tape and and you know, coding and bureaucracy. So it's a broken system leading to more expensive care with without even good profit. But let's once we eliminate the individual mandate, all of these solutions are going to flourishes, Sean because there won't be anything stopping them. People won't be legally right listen right now, as you know, Betsy, because you know the healthcare bill of Obama better than I do. But you can't even buy a catastrophic planets illegal. Well, that's right. In most states, it's illegal. And and furthermore, this is the really terrible part of this whole thing. When people pay their premiums now in the individual market, they're not paying for their own insurance. This is just a tax, a big tax, a big shift of wealth from one group of people to another. They're being forced to pay a premium that's many times the cost of their own The whole, the whole crux of Obamacare was the young and the healthy paying for the sick, the elderly, and disabled. And it became a Ponzi scheme. And that's why nobody instinctively wanted it and why we didn't get to twenty four million people on Obamacare. We got to less than half of that. All right, stay right there, We'll continue with Betsy McCoy and with Dr umber One. Shawn. Your calls at the bottom of the hour. Hey, do you have an old cell phone that you want to donate or resell? 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Just go to LifeLock dot com or call one eight hundred LifeLock bention my name, Hannity, and the good news is you'll get a ten percent discount. All Right, life flock dot com or one eight hundred LifeLock mentioned by name, Hannity ten percent off. Quick Break right Back will continue well with Betsy McCoy and Josh Humber and your calls straight ahead bringing jobs back to America and getting America back door shure. And as we continue, it looks like the healthcare debate is back in play. We'll have to wait, watch and see over time which way this goes. But anyway, we continue with Dr Josh Umber. He is with Atlas m d out of Wichita Kansas. Betsy McCoy, former Lieutenant governor of the State of New York and a healthcare advocate. Drum. You know people write us and ask us all the time. Well, actually they annoying Linda, which is why this is really Linda's question. And Linda is annoying me until I ask her question and she goes where do people go to find one of the doctor cooperatives like the one you're a part of if they don't live in Wichita, Kansas. Absolutely, we have a great map UM another doctor put together. It's the website is DPC like Direct Primary Care DPC frontier dot com, and it's an excellent map. You can zoom in and find doctors who practice this model nearby, and then if you don't have a doctor nearby, they can always reach out to us. This is a grassroots movement. This is patients demanding something better when they hear about it UM, so simply on shows like this, they they naturally gravitate towards it UM and won't needna Linda said. Linda said, I'm making your life a living hell by putting you on all the time and mentioning you all the time. Mine too. Yeah, First of all, I didn't say that. Great, that's not true. You said I'm making his life a living hell because I keep mentioning him every day. And you said he's getting the calls and he can't do his job as a doctor anymore. Well, you're probably bugging my nurses more because they feel more of those song calls than I do. But yes, well, you know what you're really describing. You know what I love about this. You're describing concierge care that really is only available to very wealthy people. In other words, people that may not have insurance or all they have is catastrophic insurance. And in other words, if they need stitches, they go into a doctor, they write a check, or they go to you know, their buddy the doctor, or they put a doctor on retainer themselves for you know, God forbid an emergency happens. I know a ton of people that do it. I don't do it myself, but I have friends of mine that are doctors, and I'll just pick up at the phone at three in the morning and they'll do me a favor, right, right, And so this is blue collar concerts in a lot of ways. That's also for the term direct care because I think some people get afraid of the term concerts. But what we do want to show is that we're providing top level care that is affordable to everybody. I think it's real quick that people get worried that this means only wealthy people are going to get access to care. And what we want to show is that this is a model that helps everybody. And if we decrease again health insurance for employers and there would be a Trump economic uh you know, boom, the breaking would be jealous. That's what That's what we were saying earlier though, because it's very important that Republicans get it right, because if they don't lower the cost of premiums and offer better care, and they're gonna end up access. They can't fix jobs now, they can't do anything. I mean, they're they're counting on up I think a trillion dollars almost in savings here before they can move forward with their economic plan. Is that right, Betsy, Well, that's right. And if you eliminate this one price for everybody, regardless of health condition rule, so that the chihuahua and the Great Dane aren't forced to pay the same price, you will see premiums come down by as much as fifty We've analyzed the data and we know that that one rule in Obamacare that prohibits insurers from giving healthy people a break amounts to fifty percent of the premium hikes. Since all right, thank you both for being with us. Betsy McCoy, doctor number atlas m D Wichita, Kansas, Thank you both for being with us. This is what you call a solution to a major problem, because sometimes getting it right is more important than the speed of getting it done. Alright, eight one, Shawn are told free telephone number. We'll take a quick break. We'll hit the phone's final half hour, quick break. Right back, we'll continue day in this country. But January first, what he did, yes, card to be or trusting on them the merchant to pecat rustan careen merch Trump walks the world said, Donald Trump, you don't stand for our values. That's what they said, Donald Trump. You didn't win this election. Donald Trump, we will resist. And when we know he did so, we didn't show that says fully now. And I gave her health to night done. WoT he had something? Non Trump wants his name around everything like Trump towers, Trump says tump times. But when it came to healthcare, you want to want trump care, So what we call trump care, I can't line care. Well, that good idea, because you know what you need is a program. I don't care. I don't care. He's got. They're back the snowflakes. That is the new d n C chairman Tom Perez and his insistent Trump didn't win the election. He's dangerous, He's unhinged. I mean, I just can't believe this guy is losing his mind this way and he's just starting. Somebody I know sat next to this guy once and he is absolutely off the rails, insane. It's gonna be interesting to watch. What else you have? The Massachusetts City Council to vote on Trump impeachment resolutions. Good Morning America covered that important story. Let's see we've got uh oh, the DC swamp creatures funneled. I saw this the other day. Forty one billion taxpayer dollars to elite wealthy ivy schools. Chatton Bream reporting for Fox your taxpayer dollars and helping to fund private universities despite the fact that their bank accounts are bursting at the seams. Why would we ever do this? Jerry Willis reports a new study founded over a six year period, Ivy League colleges brought in more money from your taxpayer dollars than from all the payments a tuition to undergraduate students. And this despite the fact that they have more than a hundred and nineteen billion dollars in endowment money. That's insane. Uh. And then we got Hillary back on the scene, and they got Chuck Schumer, and we got Nancy Pelosi, we got Maxine Waters talking about impeachment every other day. All right, let's get to our busy telephones here as we say hi to uh, let's say hi to Mike and North Carolina. What's up, Minke? How are you, Sean? What's going on? I'm good? How are you good? Can't complain. Look, I'm a officer in the United States military down here for Brad. I'm just here to tell you I'm a little deeply disappointed in the Freeman Caucus. I'm disappointed into the whole entire way that the Republican Party show is to lay out the plan, especially in my own Senator Mark Meadows. He's a freaking record and at the end of the day, what he really needs to do and be voted out office by somebody else is a little bit more smart about how North Carolins actually see things. You don't even you don't even know what was in the bill at all. Do you tell me what was in this new bill? Me? What was in the new bill? Okay, so let's talk about one in the new bill was for defund and plan parenthood. I listened to you almost every single day, okay, but here, but what was what was? You know? Because you're you're attacking Congress me Meadows, here's my take on it. Rather than engage in your ad hominem attacks and using horrible names to call people, I'll just put to push that to the side because I think Mark Meadows and the Freedom Caucus actually what they're asking for is to make this a better bill that allows for the cooperatives, that allows for the healthcare savings accounts, which, by the way, we're fundamental to what the president's promises were during the campaign. So that in my mind makes him a hero and that's a good thing for everybody. And then if you look at the specific things that they're talking about here, you know they're gonna redesign the Obamacare tax credits instead of creating a new tax credit, you know, reduce the value of the benchmark plan from a sevent actual actual aerial value to a sixty one, allow credits for people with income below of the of the type of coverage that they want to have, and what they're trying to do is make it more. It allows the creation of high risk pools. It allows, you know, potentially adding the component which was missing in the in the last bill, of enhanced health care savings accounts, increasing significantly the contribution limits, you know, rolling over excess premium tax credits, and the health savings accounts allow for health sharing cooperatives to be built. And at the end of the day, it allows the health savings and counts, you know what to do what dr Umberg is doing, and then go out and negotiate better rates for people. So, you know, you maybe want it done now and fast, and I want it done right, and I think what they proposed as changes should have been taken into consideration. Now. The biggest obstacle to all of this is nobody got to read the bill before they unveiled the bill publicly. They were never brought into the process of trying to make the bill better at any point, and so fighting to make a bill better for people just makes sense to me. And it's just something that I actually applaud them for. But I'm not going to convince you, so there's no point alright. Eight nine four one Sean Big Time A J Houston, Texas. What's going on baby at KTRH big Hey, you know what the best part about this all is we're gonna get another shot at this And the best part about it is we the people know what we need to do. And the best part about it is we got somebody with some cohones up there to get it done. And the only thing we need is the rest of the idiots to get some cohones to stand for what they said they was going to do. Now, we had somebody up there that said, oh, we gotta read the uh, you gotta vote it before you read the bill. Now we don't know who that was, but like you said, they did not show nobody to bill. But can now people, we just like a football game, you gotta get a first down. And then they look what raiding them did. They was losing and then they came back and wanted you got to give yourself a chance in this People don't be selling out to these Democrats. They make you sick, becoga what they've been done. Look at Susan Rice right now, look at all that, and we ain't hear nothing about the man. Only you, Sean and the rest of us as on this now. And they're still talking about Russia, Shanda, Russia, call you because they showed and called me to vote for Trost Vladimir and waiting for Vladimir's call and I didn't call me. Uh, I ain't got no call either. Now wait a minute, they quick they have a start, but that is no story. There isn't anything. Why they keep hoppering on what they We got real stuff and the media ain't sharing it with nobody. So with that telling the shine, we got a bunch of crooks up there in the Democrat Party and this showing, but the media, that nut wing media, whar they are to know? The people? Should we know what they're about? And all this they scared to put out. Well, Sean, we're gonna have it. We got it, and dugg on it. These Republicans better girls set because we're watching them. We're watching them big time, Sean. And good work as usual, big daddy fan. You are the man. You know a j We've been way ahead of the curve on this, and you know what, we're being proving right, and the media is gonna have egg on their face as well, all of the snowflakes and all of these so called newspeople. All right, let me get to our phones. Thank you big time. Appreciate it. John and Long Beach in California. What's up, John? How are you listening to K E I B. What's going on? Certainly, Sean, First of all, let me tell you a thirty eight years in the in the as a media, in print and broadcast media, all in big markets. I was proud of you standing up the Copple. I really was, honestly, the journalists of journalists, I just really appreciate that was easy to get how this happens, the group think happens. The fourth estate we call ourselves and and they we view ourselves collectively, not me particularly, as the only block, the only barricade between the evil corporate world, the plutocrats and everything. And at first it becomes a sense of duty. Then it becomes like a sense of entitlement, right, and and then it becomes like, well, anything that we do is okay because if you're fighting. You know, this is how Harry Read can justify being such a hypocrite on these on this nuclear option, because when you're fighting evil, Sean, when fighting the bad guys, anything you do is okay and anything they do is not okay. So they have to follow rules we don't. You know, if you have hell elections in newsrooms, you have very few Republicans electors. So this is how it happens. What do you what do you do that? How Copple was so arrogant with you, you know, that's how it was. They look upon themselves as being better. What do you doing media? I'm a I'm a primarily print but I've done the talk shows. I've done a couple of national sports talk shows over the years. You know, you know, you know to call Robin Berta Lucci out there in Los Angeles over at our affiliate k I B and I think she she also runs KF High, So check in with her and tell her that, hey, you need a good host. I'm available. Well, I've done I'm working on that. I've I've done that in the past. But this is about you right now, Sean. I was Copple was so sanctimonious with you because he doesn't have any problems to get his point across being up. You know, an ethical is to cut the you know, cut it short. It's because they want to control the message. It's it's you know. The funny thing is he asked me to give him the time to say what he wants to say. I sit back and let him make his attack and then boom, cut, slice and dice in the edit room, and I'm like, can you make it any more unfair? I mean, and I will tell you the entire interview if he ever aired it, I look great. And that's the way he didn't want everyone to see because I come prepared to do these interviews. And why do you think that's braggadocious. I think I'm bragg No. I I want people to see it because I know, I know I made the case against the abusively biased media, and I know I made the case about how liberalism has failed and why it must be defeated. They kept the line in there, the headline, Hannity says liberalism must be defeated. But why? And then I went through all the Obama statistics and I explained everything in detail, and I explain how people are suffering, and I explain how the countries in a precipitous decline. Anyway, John God blush you and uh go see Robin and tell her. I say, hello, Okay, thanks, I will thank you very much. All right, thank you one. Sean Susannah is in Pittsburgh, p A. What's up, Susannah? How are you well? Hi? San? First, I want to say you're great for America. You're just horrendous for the Russian conspiracist. Yeah, exactly, Or as liberal Joe said, Hannity's having a bromance with Russia. I'm like, no, Joe, but he listen. I just want to say that sewn Um, there's a whole lot of things wrong with the Ryan Uh. I want to say Ryan Care. First of all, he was very deceptive saying that it was necessary for three phases when I hear otherwise. He left out key people and didn't discuss it with them. But the thing that's the worst about it is that he has no passion to change it because he doesn't have to accept the healthcare that we paid for. So what I think a national campaign should be this that since they didn't have to accept what we have to live under, they need to come up with a plan that is acceptable, that that they have to accept and that is good for us. That's the only way I see then coming up with a decent plan. So I think we just need to start a national campaign that whatever they passed they have to accept for themselves and their families. And there's no reason why they shouldn't. And I'll tell you why we pay for their bill. Well, I think you right, is a good point. Look, I think that I'm like the average person, and I think the average American that has seen their rates go up five thousand four dollars on average, and we're seeing rate increases this year that are even higher percent in the case of in the case of of what's going on in Arizona. And and people want this. They want the best plan they can get, the best care they can have, and they wanted at the lowest price. And unfortunately the bill needed an adjustment because the premium warrant set to go down. And that's the only main reason why anyway under it, they just won't do it. I had a brother in law who died because of Obamacare, so it's very first not me, but I think they need to live under whatever they passed that they are public servants, that's what they call themselves, to let them live like such. I agree, you know, I'd used the analogy last week on the program. This guy that for many years was one of the the leading voices in the radio industry. He used to do a speech and he draw up a triangle, and he'd have at the top of the triangle were the listeners and everybody else below that was there to support the host, which is closest to the listeners, and the program directors that directly helped the hosts, and and the producers that helped the host, and and then all the way down to the main managers, the top guys there at the bottom, and their job is to support everybody's goal, which is to serve your listener. And I thought it was a great analogy. The same thing with politicians. They should be at the bottom, the base of the triangle and serving the people at the top. That's we the people with good bills that you know. And by the way, getting rid of government regular like the President's doing is going a long way as well to help that. But anyway, Susannah, we deserve better, and Americans deserve better, and we can get this right. And as Dr Rumber said, there's so many new innovative, creative paradigms out there available to us. It's all gonna happen anyway. Good call appreciated. All my best to Pittsburgh. Hey, like many of you, I do suffer from insomnia. It's amazing how a pillow has had such a profound impact on my life. And I'm talking about Mike Lindell's my pillow now right now, you can go to my pillow dot com or call eight hundred nine six zero nine zero mentioned my name, Hannity. You'll get Mike Glendell's Special four pack to my Pillow, premiums to go anywhere pillows. Now I fall asleep faster, I stay asleep longer because of a pillow. Now My pillows made in the USA. It has a sixty day unconditional money back guarantee and Antenia warranty. Or you can spend more sleepless nights on a pillow that does not work for you, or just go to my pillow dot com right now or call eight hundred nine one nine six zero nine euro promo code Hannity Mike Special four Pack to My Pillow premium pillows to go anywhere. 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