Right News Round Up Information Overload hour eight hundred and nine for one Shawn our number. You want to be a part of the program. Now we've discussed and by the way, they they're about to light the Christmas tree, the new Christmas Tree at the Fox News Channel. I think it's gonna be bigger. And they call it Fox Square and it's along sixth Avenue in New York City in forty eighth Street. If you live in the New York area, you want to go and stop by and see it. They make it a big deal about it. I will not be there, but you know, for people that want to, obviously I can't be here. At the same time, one of the things that has been pretty amazing if you go back to the ratings of Johnny Carson, they were massive, I mean massive, you know, twenty shares, fifteen shares. I mean even over the years. You go back to the days of Letterman versus Leno, I mean Lena was easily four or five six share in the ratings and Letterman, you know, when he became political, his ratings started to decline. And Leno he didn't care who he was making fun of. It was just being funny and that's what that's what's now missing from late night comics. You know, Colbert's show was pretty much dead, gone and buried. And then Donald Trump came on the scene and he built a little audience of I hate Donald Trump, sycophants, never trumpers, and he's not stopped the never ending left wing radical you know, he so called humor that's not funny anymore, and people see it, you know, people like him and Kimmel and Ballance. They barely can reach two million viewers a night because that's not what people want from a comedian. And I think the comedian that steps forward and one day is just just trying to make you laugh before you go to sleep, and non political will be the one that breaks true. Now, it's interesting on the Fox News channel because Gregg Gutfeld's late night show, which has a lot of humor in it. He's a very funny guy. He's a friend of the show. Greg Gutfeld shows now competing with these network shows, and he's right on their ass. And it's it's in large part because he's the only one that has a different political viewpoint anyway, and for him, anything that's funny is fair game. So Colbert last night, and Joe Conch had a really interesting tweet over this. He said, overpaid predictable second place Late night Comics self proclaimed the vout Christian celebrating arson of a Christmas tree. That's what happened last night with Colbert. The holiday season is in full swing already here in New York. The Christmas lights are burning bright, especially avert Foxing's headquarters. We're last night the Fox News Christmas tree was set on fire. Now, I know what you're thinking, but the ghost of Hugo Chavez has an alibi. Thankfully, no one was hurt. We're not talking about a couple of toasted pine cones here. Take a look, crispy cringles. Of course, this would never have happened if the tree had a gun. Come on, you gotta give a squirrel, Give a squirrel a gun or something like that. Fox News tried to warn us this was coming. Every time a story clerk says happy Holidays, a Christmas tree bursts into flames. In New York. At midnight last night, the Fox News Christmas tree was engulfed in flames. The fire is believed to have started after Fox News's pants caught on fire, but the fire is believed that started because judge Jannine pierro ate one too many rumballs and breathed on a cigarette. Someone set fire to the fifty foots tree outside the Fox News studios, and it's not clear how this happened. I mean, it could be an accident, could be awesome, could be Santifa. It's not clear. And unfortunately we can't ask the tree because like all Fox employees, it had to sign an NDA. And honestly, even corning this thing a tree is such a stretch because, I mean, if you saw this once the flames went out, it turns out that this thing was just like scaffolding covered in pine needles. I'm sorry, but that's not a tree. That's just a jungle gym with a buddy hair problem. All right, So, you know, some of it was mildly funny, but it's the never ended. That's all they will joke about, is anything conservative, you know. I mean, you would think that Joe Biden being an incoherent would be a great source of material for late night comics. They never do it. Ever, That's how partisan they become, and it's reflected. You know, they've got in They barely compete they're away under two million viewers these shows a night. If you get to the Trevor Noher's and the Seth what's that Guy's named? Seth Myers of the World, they're under a million viewers a night. These are broadcast channels. This was unheard of anyway. Joining us to way En, Joe contra is with us. He, of course Fox News contributor calumnists for The Hill, Carol Roth, author of The War on Small Business. You know, it's mildly funny, but the problem is that's so predictable. As you said in your tweet, Joe, that it's every second, every day, every show, every every single comedian, they're all the same. It's not comedy, Sean. It's like watching an extension of CNN. It's not even like it's like fake news CNN with a yuck here and there right right. And CNN of course now stands for the craptastic News Network, right, or the chaos News Net, or or whatever you want to cause they've got their own problems. We could talk about that at another time. But you mentioned Colbert has something like seventeen writers, he's got multiple producers, he's got an army over there, to do that show every night. And Gutfeld, and I know this for a fact in talking to Greg, he doesn't have any army of writers, he doesn't have an army of producers. He's basically kind of doing it on his own and maybe like two or three other people. And let me give you the latest numbers. Gutfeld averaging two point one million viewers, Colbert one point nine million. He's beating the broadcast guy who has a six year head start in that particular time slot. And then Seth Myers, he can't even get a million, to your point, and you'd played Trevor Noah would never be confused with John Stewart. He can't even get five hundred thousand viewers over at the Daily Show. And let me give you one more number before you go to Carol, because I know she's had a lot of interesting things to say here. You mentioned Carson before. Carson average fifteen million viewers a night in the nineteen eighties, Leno and Letterman five million, four and a half million in ain't even close now because half the country is predispositions to know they're not going to watch because they know what they're gonna get, which is conservative bashing and not a lot of comedy, quite frankly, and Leno and listen, Carson embraced people of all political persuasions. He'd have on you know, people from Reagan, feminist activists, you know, Jane Fonda. He put anybody on his show, and with every single guest, he wasn't berating them or mocking them. He would inquire, he would ask. He'd throwing jokes every single time, and the same with Leno and Letterman up to a point, and then went as soon as Letterman went harder and harder left, he started losing audiences. The gap between him and Leno grew pretty dramatically. Carol, Yeah, I think you're exactly right. If you think back to sort of the hey day of Letterman and what is it that we love to watch. We like to watch stupid petricks. We liked the quarterback challenge. You wanted the escapism. You didn't want to be be rated with, you know, this political talking down like every single moment, and even when the shows of the past did it, it was you know, funny or at least you were in on the joke. If you remember, during the oj trial, Jay Leno had the dancing ETOs and Judge lance Edo, which again was like completely absurd, but it was kind of this funny running joke if they were really running to cover the news and do something topical. I mean, the Jessie Smilette trial provides all kinds of humor that we should all be laughing at together. But they won't touch that with a ten foot poll because you know that's all about Maga country. You know that's such a good point. I mean, those would be ripe for comments commentary Joe Biden's cognitive decline. I'm sorry, but they would. They would find ways to make it funny. It would be sad, but they wouldn't dare touch it. Joe, And you have the sound bites to work with. It's not like you even have to find a Biden impersonator. Just play a clip like we was talking about yesterday about gas prices and they're down twenty cents. No, he means twenty dollars, No he means below three dollars. No, what they're below two dollars. It's just completely and totally writes itself in these situations. Or Alexander Accacio Cortez, I am certain there is material there when she denies that smash and grab looting isn't really going on, and then you just chuxtapose it's colden splot screens very easy in your should come so easy inter cities. That writes itself, Sean, I hate to tell you what I mean. We do a lot of this and it you know, for a long time, Carol, I was mocking Joe Biden's you know, cognitive gas, and at some point I began to realize this, this isn't funny anymore. This guy's a mess, and it's it's now getting I think, progressively, discernibly worse on a daily basis. Now we're headed towards a real crisis in the country and the world, and the serious side of me takes over because, oh, you know, look at what Putin's doing. Look at what President she is doing. He's lifting sanctions on the Molos in Iran. Our economy is an utter mess, and this guy can't put a coherent sentence together. It's not funny to me anymore. Yeah, I think that's a really valid point shown. You know, one sense, you want to kind of laugh because it's the only coping mechanism. But the reality is that the average American is having to live through these things, and with his cognitive decline, he has all of these other people who seems to be running the agenda and also repainting the agenda. You know. On the economy, you have the White House Chief of Staff, who I like to call Ron Klain quote unquote economic genius, trademark, who comes to try and tell you how great the economy is. In the same breath when we've just got numbers at the total employment level is still three and a half million people down from where it was in February twenty twenty, and about two point four million people have exited the workforce. So it is a tough situation. It's impacting every American and you know, we try to have these moments of humors that we can cope, but it is a pretty serious situation. Well it's serious enough that, in fact, it's going to now play out before the entire world. Here, quick break, we'll come back more at Joe Contra Carol Roth than your calls. Eight hundred and nine for one, Shawn our number, all right, we continue. Yeah, Late night comedy is not scoring big in the ratings anymore because they're not funny and they're very partisan we continue our discussion with Joe Contra and Carol roth Um. You know, I'm watching what's going on at CNN, and I know you have a lot to say about it, Joe Consta, you might have been surprised that I took the position that, you know, it's not the worst offense in the world, that that Cuomo was defending his brother Andrew. My guess is my strong guesses as Andrew Cuomo was not telling the truth to the world, nor was he telling the truth to his brother. And you know, you don't stop being a brother just because you have a TV show. And I don't believe that CNN was out of the loop on this at all. I think they were fully aware when they in the beginning of COVID, when Chris would bring on his brother what was going on. They didn't see a conflict. Then they were fully aware. He acknowledged and apologized as the network asked him to do. I'm sure as it relates to the when he was first implicated in the idea that he was helping his brother, and what we really learned from the Attorney General and the release of these documents is not much different than that which we already knew, so what he's helping his brother, I get it. His brother probably lied to him. I think the point you make around did senior management know and when did they know? It? The top grass that's more important right now, and Chris Cuomo is going to sue if he already hasn't started that process CNN for the remainder of his contract. It's something like eighteen million dollars. And he says that his boss is there, knew exactly what they were doing and what he was doing, and they were okay with it. Now, when the discovery period comes out at this point, when Cuomo has texts or emails showing that to be true, then what happens at CNN because that's when things really implode. Because remember John Malone now is the biggest shareholder of CNN. Who's John Malone. He's a pretty big deal in media, mainly radio and Liberty Media is what he's a CEO of. And he literally sit on CNBC of all places, Carol's former home that the CNN needs to go back to doing journalism and Fox News does a good job at doing journalism. This is all on CNBC. It's just remarkable to watch. So that's the case and now the scuttlebut is that there's going to be many heads rolling at CNN as they make that pivot back, because whatever they're doing now isn't working. When you lose eight and ten of your viewers since the beginning of the year, which they have done, and you're losing to the Food Network, I NSP which plays gun smoke reruns, I'm not joking with you. TLC two home channels and a partnership air treat. When you're losing all those channels, Sean, you've got problems. You got to make changes. Just like a football team. If they're all in eleven, you fire the coach and you get new players. The bottom line is, I don't call for Boycott's firings, cancelations. That's up to the audience. Carol. I think you're right, And I have to say, Joe Contact, I like the Food Network. I really enjoy don't know how to cook, but I enjoyly watch a good Food Network show. And you know, I had to back up Sean for a second because I said the same thing about Chris Cuomo. You know, it's human nature. Of course, if you're in a position and you're going you have a family member who is in need, you're going to help them, and of course the family member is going to paint it to you as, Oh, this person is trying to run me into the ground, can you help. I don't see the issue in that. The issue is for CNN to decide if it's a conflict of interest for somebody to be interviewing their brother, and if they decide that that's not. I feel like that's more of a network issue than it is an anchor issue. So it will be very interesting to see if it gets to the point where there is any discovery of this information or if they want to settle it and put the kabash on it so it never makes the light of day. All right, thank you, Carol Roth, Joe Concha eight hundred nine one Sea on our number. When we come back, we'll hit the phones quick break right back, all right? Ay, verdict has been reached twenty five now to the top of the hour and the Jose Smolett trial. And this is what nearly three years after he told police to Trump loving bigots, beat him up, tied a noose around his neck, daust him, and bleach on a blistering night in January we might get the the verdict read in this half hour, So we're on verdict Watch obviously, and you know a lot of information came out there, defense vehemently maintaining Smolette was the victim of a real hate crime. Jose Smolett taking the stand in this case, he called the brothers sophisticated liars in criminal the brothers of the people that were involved that turned on him. Thirteen witnesses and a lot of text messages and private messages back and forth, the tape of Jesse Smollette the day before, doing what they called a dry run through. This is going to be very interesting to see which way this all goes. So we're watching that this half hour, eight hundred and nine four. When shaunos on number we'll get to your calls here in a minute. 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The sleep that you want, you need, you crave, you desire and frankly deserve, will be yours by going to my pillow dot com and clicking on the Sean Hannity Square. It's it's it's really that simple, um anyway. By the way, Leo Terrell two point on Terrell, Greg Jardo joining us. Welcome both of you. Now, this is going to be an interesting verdict you guys. First, before I get to anything else, you want to make a prediction. Jury verdicts are very hard to predict. Leo will start with you guilty. I want to be consistent. I'm gonna be consistent. Why you last now your TV show? I think he's guilty, as said, there's no hung jury because they got verdict though. I think he's guilty. Great, Jarrett, Yeah, I think the evidence of guilt was overwhelming. Whether the jury would agree with that, you know, it's just never never. Sometimes juries engage in what's called jury nullification. They realize the evidence points beyond a reasonable down to guilt, but they just don't like like it, they don't want to do it. Maybe they like the defendant in some way, and so they simply ignore the facts, they ignore the law, and they're empowered to do that. Now. It's rare jury nullification, but it does happen. But I think on balance, any honest, reasonable person who is paying close attention to the evidence, facts, the testimony, you know, the text messages, the videotape surveillance would reach the inexorable King cluson that Jesse Smilett is guilty. You know this could you know, depending on what the verdict is here, could could come back to a lot of the Democrats and the rush to judgment. Now, we do what we always do on this program, and both of you know my policy, and that is we don't rush to judgment. We believe in the presumption of innocence. You're innocent before being proven guilty in a court of law. We had many presidential candidates twenty twenty Democratic presidential candidates that weighed in on it, including Kamala Harris will get to her in a minute. Corey Booker, you know, all expressing solidarity with Smilette at the time, both both blasting the alleged attack as an attempted modern day lynching, and Biden, also a candidate at the time, tweeting we are with you, Jesse and that homophobian racism have no place on our streets and in our hearts. Bernie Sanders, the racist, homophobic attack on Jesse Smiletta is a horrific instant of surging hostility towards minorities around the country, and it can goes on from there. Democrat Eric Swalwell, what happened to Jesse Smollet is violent, tragic. Thankfully he will recover, but hate crimes like this are happening more frequently will there be consequences if, in fact the verdict comes back guilty, Leo, I think the verdict it's necessary for the for there to be a guilty verdict. Why because Jesse Smoller represents everything that's bad about the system. There are true victims of racism, anti gay Bashie. Those people are basically on pins and needles Sean, because there are true cases, real cases. This guy was a fraud, so he has to be found guilty of hopes, because legitimate cases are in jeopardy with guys like him and Greg Jarrett. If it look again, none of us know and we've we've said this before and previous cases that we've covered, and more recently we were correcting our predictions. But let you know, took the stand in the case, how did you think he held up under cross? Any case involving race always attempts politicians, especially liberal politicians and their media collaborators, to rush to judgment. They did even know the facts, the facts that barely been been dipped into When people like Kamala Harris, you know, pronounced it a modern day Lynchy, the same way Jill Biden smeared Kyle Rittenhouse as a white supremacist so you know that part of the equation is not unexpected. They always do that. Smaller. How did he hold up on cross examination? He did not hold up well, in part because his story just makes sense match up with the surveillance, didn't match up with the text message. We'll talk about the surveillance in particular, because the surveillance you're talking about is what the day before the right you know, he ran through the next day's events. The surveillance tape that police presented to prosecutors who presented the jury was what they called a dry runner dress rehearsal of the attack beforehand, and it was compelling evidence of guilt. And so too the fact that police were able to corroborate every aspect of the two brothers story. Who said smalltt hate them for the hopes that all matched up. What didn't match up was a small at story. He claimed the attackers were white. The brothers certainly are not. The defense attorney told the jury the brothers were indeed his clients attackers. So you know, the smolette struggled to try to explain that. And you know, he sent text messages the brothers stating he knew they were innocent, that was construed as an attempt to get them to clam off. You know. The prosecutor recited another message that one of the brothers testified too, from Smolette quote, I want you to attack me, but when you hit me, I want you to kind of pull your punches a curiously hurt, you know what I mean. That's powerful stuff, you know, Sean, And that tells a jury that this was a hoax. When you look at the timeline, Leo Smolette received the racist, homophobic, threatening letter at the studio in Chicago. We're Empire's film. Police believe that Smolette sent the letter himself. Smilette tells police he was attacked by two men, and Greg points out that were white. In fact, they are not m and police say smilet who is African American and apparently, according to all reports, Gay that he told detectives. The deta the attackers yell that he was in Maga Country, an apparent reference to President Trump's Make America Great Again Now. Police say the investigation is shifted after detective's question the brothers and the follow up. His lawyers say he feels victimized, but you got the testimony of the two other men involved in this. I don't see how you get a verdict anything other than guilty. But we'll see. Here's the thing about it. I mean, the letter to the studio did work. The guy was making one hundred thousand dollars for episode he has. He's an egomaniac, egomaniac, a narcissist. And then basically his whole strategy and every guy, every grace that it's bought up. But his whole strategy was to go after one or two jurors to make this a race case. You know his comment, I didn't go to the police because I don't I'm a black man. I don't trust the police. I mean, it's just Nazis. Then you had Black Lives Matter jump into the hoop in the last twenty four hours they support the Jesse Smolette. This guy is nothing more than a liar. And what's going to happen is if the jury system work, vindication will come about it. He would be found guilty. And this is why this will serve as a deterrent to the left. Well, they may not because they don't care if the truth is always is in play. They don't deal with the truth, They deal with lie. But this will serve as a deterrent that you cannot go into a courtroom and lie. And one final point, Seoan his attorney should be up for some ethical charges because, let's face it, he has a dude. They had an obligation to make sure he didn't get up on that witness stand and lie. And I think they knew. So you got Joe Biden, you got Kamala Harris and her tweet Jesse Smilette at Jesse Smilette is one of the kindest, most gentle human beings. I know. I'm praying for his quick recovery. This was an attempted modern day lynching. No one should have to fear for their life because of the second uality of the color of their skin. We must confront this this case, Corey Booker, this vicious attack on Jesse Smollette was an attempted modern day lynching. I'm glad he's safe. To those in Congress who don't feel the urgency to pass anti lynching, an anti lynching bill designing lynching as a federal hate crime, I urge you to pay attention and we can add Al Sharpton as you mentioned, Black Lives Matter their comments this week, the human rights campaign times up all these groups. You know, this is the risk of everybody always rushing to judgment. Greg Jarrett, Yeah, it is. And you know, people should take the approach that you have consistently taken, Sean, and that is, let's wait till we get more information before we start a pining as to what happened. And you are always quick to point out that people are presumed innocent, that they you know, will have their day in court. But politicians, especially in a racially inflamed case, you know, love to pre judge and preordain the result, and of course they end up embarrassing themselves a lot of the time. And this is you know, sort of a classic case of it. Look, I mean this thing, this thing didn't make sense from the beginning when smallatt said he was attacked by by people who said, um, this is Maga country, mcado magac. I mean that that didn't make sense out at two in the morning to get a subway sandwich, uh, you know, and and attacked by people he knew who just happened to know it too in the morning would be there. This thing never added up, and yet politicians, you know, ignored all of that. I'm gonna let you both, Cob, you'll both be joining me in Hannity tonight. Leo two points, ll Greg, Jared, thank you. We have Dave in Wisconsin. Dave, You're on the Sean Hannity Show. Is now everybody's making their way back into the courtroom for the reading of the verdict in the smaller case eight. What do you say, Dave? What's on your mind? Thanks for taking my call and thanks, I thank you. If he has found if he has found guilty, how would that not be considered a hate crime? Since he made reference to Mega, you know, Caucasian people, How does that not reverse racism? You know, you can call it whatever you want if you look. I've often said this, when people lie about other people, There's a reason it made the top ten in terms of the Ten Commandments not bearing false witness because it's so damaging and I know people that this has happened to. It's horrible. It's absolutely horrible if somebody does that. We'll find out soon what the jury thinks in this case. Though, Big time aide Jay Houston, Texas. What's going on, my friend, big time big town Sean. Hey, I want to wish you a happy Thanksgiving, and I want to say, oh, Merry Christmas to all the little kids and everybody at the Sean handed the show. Hope y'all have a merry, merry Christmas. Thanks I think I think big time AJ is coming back to be Uh to join us for a special program this year. That's what I think. Oh, that would be great, Sean, that would be great. That give us a little shiny and shiny in New country. After all with Joe Biden into the crooks and died in the country. But now to the idiot, he's guilty. I mean, Sean, all we did to make race relations better until Obama got in there then messed it up, and then after that here come Biden messing it up worser and worser and worser. And now here this guy gonna try to pull that crap. The Shan, we worked hard to try to make America what it is. And we don't need no race, ain't we people? We God's people, man, We don't need all that crap. That is a bunch of boulogney. And he should be charged for what he did, for false impersonation, that's what that is. And it's sickening to wait you know to know that. Look, I thought the evidence was pretty compelling, but I don't like to predict what juries are going to do. I didn't like to do it in the case of Written House. To me, the case was overwhelming and incontrovertible. The jury took its time. I thought the longer they were out the perhaps the worst it was getting for Written House. But it was by state law in Wisconsin, by definition self defense. All right, big time, aj, I expect to speak to you soon. Um listen. Let me warn my affiliates across the Sean Hannity showed network that we are staying with our coverage. We expected verdict to be read any set now in the Jose Smileett hate hoax trial. We're gonna take calls. In the meantime, we have Trishes in West Virginia. Eight hundred and nine for one. Shaun is our number if you want to weigh in. What's up, Trish? How are you? I'm trying, Thank you, Thank you for taking my column. I'll be quick as another gentleman that just stated what I had called in to say, and that is this should be charged as a hate crime. It is paid against the rate. It is hate against the political group. It's a hate crime, and I don't understand why it's not being charged as such. Thank you so much for talking to me, and have a wonderful day. You have a wonderful day yourself. Anyway, this is going to be interesting. It's gonna be very, very interesting because you know, there's a reason why we are always right. You know. How is it that you know we saw what was coming in the written House case? Right? I mean, it was obvious when you went through each individual case. You see a kid running away from crowd, a mob that's chasing him. They tackle him to the ground. A guy's about to stomp his foot into his face into the pavement. That self defense. You have a case of another guy that is admitting that he pointed a loaded gun at Rittenhouse's head. That's self defense by anybody's definition. And then the case and it was on video of one guy with a horrific history of atrocious behavior grabbing the rifle of Kyle Rittenhouse. And still people think, you just don't know which way the verdict's going to come back, even though by the very definition in the law in Wisconsin, it was crystal clear that this was acting within the law, and it wasn't that hard to figure out, you know, I'm looking at this timeline and then what the police have been able to pick up here? Police, you know, he tells police he was attacked two am. Actor says the men used racist, homophobic slurs, wrapped a rope around his neck, poured an unknown substance on him. And the two people involved he claimed were white. As Leo pointed out, it turns out that that was not the case. And then we find out through you know, that he did a dry run as they call it, caught on surveillance video. Did they one day before the alleged hate crime attack? I mean, that's pretty compelling evidence. And then of course the text messages and private messaging between him and the other two people involved that testified against him. Let's go to Los Angeles. We expect this verdict to be read any minute. How anyway, Will is in Los Angeles, KiB what's up? Will? How are you hi? Afternoon? Yeah? I wanted to point out something. I thought it was bleach that was said that was thrown on him. And the thing about bleach is that freezes at eighteen degree so with the temperature at twenty below zero, what did they throw on him? I don't remember the bleach allegation for some reason. I just you know, remember this happened three years ago, correct, Yeah, but there was a big deal about it, and I looked it up. Bleach freezes at eighteen degrees, So if they threw bleach on him, they were throwing chunks of ice that would have cut him up and beat him up like you'd been hit with a hammer. I don't know that part of it, but if you're right, then there's news and information I never had before. I'll tell you that. Well, it just it further that this is kind of a story. You know, it should have started with once upon a time instead of you know, for real. You know, Jesse Smilett said under oh, there's no hoax. He said he was driving, said he was smoking a blunt and texting with a woman about an MSDNC appearance. Then he testified the attack felt like looney Tunes when he was attacked. But then you got the testimony pull your punches and other things that were said. It's it's it's just going to be interesting. And you know, I find the jury system, as imperfect as it might be at times, we've learned that through the Innocence Project, that you know, people that are innocent are proven innocent after they spend decades in jail. It's a great group. Harry Scheck founded this years ago. It's changed my opinion on the death penalty considering so many people because a new modern techniques with DNA evidence, they can find out the truth and veracity of some of the evidence. And they tested for DNA and they find, oops, we made a mistake. But if it's on videotape, that would be compelling enough for me. But we're gonna watch. Look, there's a reason we've been right, and this is the lesson. I always say that I learned in the Richard Jewel case, and that is I was on the air the AJA he comes out at Lanta Journal constitution fits the profile of the lone bomber because he lives with his mother, and I remember saying on air, well, just because he lives with his mother doesn't make him a domestic terrorist. I didn't know he was listening that day. I found out later and I got one of the first interviews with him, and that has served us well. With Ferguson, we ended up being right because we had sources on the ground that said there were numerous eyewitnesses that confirmed the story of Officer Narren Wilson, that it was in fact Michael Brown reaching into the car and trying to grab the police officers gun. It was Michael Brown charging the police officer. The same thing with Freddy Gray, Duke Lacrosse UVA. How is it we always end up being right because we don't rush to judgment and we do our own fact checking, something the media and these idiot politicians ought to start learning from. All Right, we'll take a quick break, we'll come back, we'll continue. Oh wait, we're almost at the end. We're at the end of the show. I'm not going to get the verdict on darn it. But what I'm hoping is is that we'll happen for you tonight anyway, So tune in tonight. The verdict has been reached in the Jesse Smillette hate hoax trial. My guess is I think it's going to come back guilty, but you never know. We'll have the answer tonight nineties and set DVR Hannity on Fox. We'll see it. Then back here tomorrow. We'll never forget you make this show possible thanks for being with us,

Right News Round Up Information Overload hour eight hundred and nine for one Shawn our number. You want to be a part of the program. Now we've discussed and by the way, they they're about to light the Christmas tree, the new Christmas Tree at the Fox News Channel. I think it's gonna be bigger. And they call it Fox Square and it's along sixth Avenue in New York City in forty eighth Street. If you live in the New York area, you want to go and stop by and see it. They make it a big deal about it. I will not be there, but you know, for people that want to, obviously I can't be here. At the same time, one of the things that has been pretty amazing if you go back to the ratings of Johnny Carson, they were massive, I mean massive, you know, twenty shares, fifteen shares. I mean even over the years. You go back to the days of Letterman versus Leno, I mean Lena was easily four or five six share in the ratings and Letterman, you know, when he became political, his ratings started to decline. And Leno he didn't care who he was making fun of. It was just being funny and that's what that's what's now missing from late night comics. You know, Colbert's show was pretty much dead, gone and buried. And then Donald Trump came on the scene and he built a little audience of I hate Donald Trump, sycophants, never trumpers, and he's not stopped the never ending left wing radical you know, he so called humor that's not funny anymore, and people see it, you know, people like him and Kimmel and Ballance. They barely can reach two million viewers a night because that's not what people want from a comedian. And I think the comedian that steps forward and one day is just just trying to make you laugh before you go to sleep, and non political will be the one that breaks true. Now, it's interesting on the Fox News channel because Gregg Gutfeld's late night show, which has a lot of humor in it. He's a very funny guy. He's a friend of the show. Greg Gutfeld shows now competing with these network shows, and he's right on their ass. And it's it's in large part because he's the only one that has a different political viewpoint anyway, and for him, anything that's funny is fair game. So Colbert last night, and Joe Conch had a really interesting tweet over this. He said, overpaid predictable second place Late night Comics self proclaimed the vout Christian celebrating arson of a Christmas tree. That's what happened last night with Colbert. The holiday season is in full swing already here in New York. The Christmas lights are burning bright, especially avert Foxing's headquarters. We're last night the Fox News Christmas tree was set on fire. Now, I know what you're thinking, but the ghost of Hugo Chavez has an alibi. Thankfully, no one was hurt. We're not talking about a couple of toasted pine cones here. Take a look, crispy cringles. Of course, this would never have happened if the tree had a gun. Come on, you gotta give a squirrel, Give a squirrel a gun or something like that. Fox News tried to warn us this was coming. Every time a story clerk says happy Holidays, a Christmas tree bursts into flames. In New York. At midnight last night, the Fox News Christmas tree was engulfed in flames. The fire is believed to have started after Fox News's pants caught on fire, but the fire is believed that started because judge Jannine pierro ate one too many rumballs and breathed on a cigarette. Someone set fire to the fifty foots tree outside the Fox News studios, and it's not clear how this happened. I mean, it could be an accident, could be awesome, could be Santifa. It's not clear. And unfortunately we can't ask the tree because like all Fox employees, it had to sign an NDA. And honestly, even corning this thing a tree is such a stretch because, I mean, if you saw this once the flames went out, it turns out that this thing was just like scaffolding covered in pine needles. I'm sorry, but that's not a tree. That's just a jungle gym with a buddy hair problem. All right, So, you know, some of it was mildly funny, but it's the never ended. That's all they will joke about, is anything conservative, you know. I mean, you would think that Joe Biden being an incoherent would be a great source of material for late night comics. They never do it. Ever, That's how partisan they become, and it's reflected. You know, they've got in They barely compete they're away under two million viewers these shows a night. If you get to the Trevor Noher's and the Seth what's that Guy's named? Seth Myers of the World, they're under a million viewers a night. These are broadcast channels. This was unheard of anyway. Joining us to way En, Joe contra is with us. He, of course Fox News contributor calumnists for The Hill, Carol Roth, author of The War on Small Business. You know, it's mildly funny, but the problem is that's so predictable. As you said in your tweet, Joe, that it's every second, every day, every show, every every single comedian, they're all the same. It's not comedy, Sean. It's like watching an extension of CNN. It's not even like it's like fake news CNN with a yuck here and there right right. And CNN of course now stands for the craptastic News Network, right, or the chaos News Net, or or whatever you want to cause they've got their own problems. We could talk about that at another time. But you mentioned Colbert has something like seventeen writers, he's got multiple producers, he's got an army over there, to do that show every night. And Gutfeld, and I know this for a fact in talking to Greg, he doesn't have any army of writers, he doesn't have an army of producers. He's basically kind of doing it on his own and maybe like two or three other people. And let me give you the latest numbers. Gutfeld averaging two point one million viewers, Colbert one point nine million. He's beating the broadcast guy who has a six year head start in that particular time slot. And then Seth Myers, he can't even get a million, to your point, and you'd played Trevor Noah would never be confused with John Stewart. He can't even get five hundred thousand viewers over at the Daily Show. And let me give you one more number before you go to Carol, because I know she's had a lot of interesting things to say here. You mentioned Carson before. Carson average fifteen million viewers a night in the nineteen eighties, Leno and Letterman five million, four and a half million in ain't even close now because half the country is predispositions to know they're not going to watch because they know what they're gonna get, which is conservative bashing and not a lot of comedy, quite frankly, and Leno and listen, Carson embraced people of all political persuasions. He'd have on you know, people from Reagan, feminist activists, you know, Jane Fonda. He put anybody on his show, and with every single guest, he wasn't berating them or mocking them. He would inquire, he would ask. He'd throwing jokes every single time, and the same with Leno and Letterman up to a point, and then went as soon as Letterman went harder and harder left, he started losing audiences. The gap between him and Leno grew pretty dramatically. Carol, Yeah, I think you're exactly right. If you think back to sort of the hey day of Letterman and what is it that we love to watch. We like to watch stupid petricks. We liked the quarterback challenge. You wanted the escapism. You didn't want to be be rated with, you know, this political talking down like every single moment, and even when the shows of the past did it, it was you know, funny or at least you were in on the joke. If you remember, during the oj trial, Jay Leno had the dancing ETOs and Judge lance Edo, which again was like completely absurd, but it was kind of this funny running joke if they were really running to cover the news and do something topical. I mean, the Jessie Smilette trial provides all kinds of humor that we should all be laughing at together. But they won't touch that with a ten foot poll because you know that's all about Maga country. You know that's such a good point. I mean, those would be ripe for comments commentary Joe Biden's cognitive decline. I'm sorry, but they would. They would find ways to make it funny. It would be sad, but they wouldn't dare touch it. Joe, And you have the sound bites to work with. It's not like you even have to find a Biden impersonator. Just play a clip like we was talking about yesterday about gas prices and they're down twenty cents. No, he means twenty dollars, No he means below three dollars. No, what they're below two dollars. It's just completely and totally writes itself in these situations. Or Alexander Accacio Cortez, I am certain there is material there when she denies that smash and grab looting isn't really going on, and then you just chuxtapose it's colden splot screens very easy in your should come so easy inter cities. That writes itself, Sean, I hate to tell you what I mean. We do a lot of this and it you know, for a long time, Carol, I was mocking Joe Biden's you know, cognitive gas, and at some point I began to realize this, this isn't funny anymore. This guy's a mess, and it's it's now getting I think, progressively, discernibly worse on a daily basis. Now we're headed towards a real crisis in the country and the world, and the serious side of me takes over because, oh, you know, look at what Putin's doing. Look at what President she is doing. He's lifting sanctions on the Molos in Iran. Our economy is an utter mess, and this guy can't put a coherent sentence together. It's not funny to me anymore. Yeah, I think that's a really valid point shown. You know, one sense, you want to kind of laugh because it's the only coping mechanism. But the reality is that the average American is having to live through these things, and with his cognitive decline, he has all of these other people who seems to be running the agenda and also repainting the agenda. You know. On the economy, you have the White House Chief of Staff, who I like to call Ron Klain quote unquote economic genius, trademark, who comes to try and tell you how great the economy is. In the same breath when we've just got numbers at the total employment level is still three and a half million people down from where it was in February twenty twenty, and about two point four million people have exited the workforce. So it is a tough situation. It's impacting every American and you know, we try to have these moments of humors that we can cope, but it is a pretty serious situation. Well it's serious enough that, in fact, it's going to now play out before the entire world. Here, quick break, we'll come back more at Joe Contra Carol Roth than your calls. Eight hundred and nine for one, Shawn our number, all right, we continue. Yeah, Late night comedy is not scoring big in the ratings anymore because they're not funny and they're very partisan we continue our discussion with Joe Contra and Carol roth Um. You know, I'm watching what's going on at CNN, and I know you have a lot to say about it, Joe Consta, you might have been surprised that I took the position that, you know, it's not the worst offense in the world, that that Cuomo was defending his brother Andrew. My guess is my strong guesses as Andrew Cuomo was not telling the truth to the world, nor was he telling the truth to his brother. And you know, you don't stop being a brother just because you have a TV show. And I don't believe that CNN was out of the loop on this at all. I think they were fully aware when they in the beginning of COVID, when Chris would bring on his brother what was going on. They didn't see a conflict. Then they were fully aware. He acknowledged and apologized as the network asked him to do. I'm sure as it relates to the when he was first implicated in the idea that he was helping his brother, and what we really learned from the Attorney General and the release of these documents is not much different than that which we already knew, so what he's helping his brother, I get it. His brother probably lied to him. I think the point you make around did senior management know and when did they know? It? The top grass that's more important right now, and Chris Cuomo is going to sue if he already hasn't started that process CNN for the remainder of his contract. It's something like eighteen million dollars. And he says that his boss is there, knew exactly what they were doing and what he was doing, and they were okay with it. Now, when the discovery period comes out at this point, when Cuomo has texts or emails showing that to be true, then what happens at CNN because that's when things really implode. Because remember John Malone now is the biggest shareholder of CNN. Who's John Malone. He's a pretty big deal in media, mainly radio and Liberty Media is what he's a CEO of. And he literally sit on CNBC of all places, Carol's former home that the CNN needs to go back to doing journalism and Fox News does a good job at doing journalism. This is all on CNBC. It's just remarkable to watch. So that's the case and now the scuttlebut is that there's going to be many heads rolling at CNN as they make that pivot back, because whatever they're doing now isn't working. When you lose eight and ten of your viewers since the beginning of the year, which they have done, and you're losing to the Food Network, I NSP which plays gun smoke reruns, I'm not joking with you. TLC two home channels and a partnership air treat. When you're losing all those channels, Sean, you've got problems. You got to make changes. Just like a football team. If they're all in eleven, you fire the coach and you get new players. The bottom line is, I don't call for Boycott's firings, cancelations. That's up to the audience. Carol. I think you're right, And I have to say, Joe Contact, I like the Food Network. I really enjoy don't know how to cook, but I enjoyly watch a good Food Network show. And you know, I had to back up Sean for a second because I said the same thing about Chris Cuomo. You know, it's human nature. Of course, if you're in a position and you're going you have a family member who is in need, you're going to help them, and of course the family member is going to paint it to you as, Oh, this person is trying to run me into the ground, can you help. I don't see the issue in that. The issue is for CNN to decide if it's a conflict of interest for somebody to be interviewing their brother, and if they decide that that's not. I feel like that's more of a network issue than it is an anchor issue. So it will be very interesting to see if it gets to the point where there is any discovery of this information or if they want to settle it and put the kabash on it so it never makes the light of day. All right, thank you, Carol Roth, Joe Concha eight hundred nine one Sea on our number. When we come back, we'll hit the phones quick break right back, all right? Ay, verdict has been reached twenty five now to the top of the hour and the Jose Smolett trial. And this is what nearly three years after he told police to Trump loving bigots, beat him up, tied a noose around his neck, daust him, and bleach on a blistering night in January we might get the the verdict read in this half hour, So we're on verdict Watch obviously, and you know a lot of information came out there, defense vehemently maintaining Smolette was the victim of a real hate crime. Jose Smolett taking the stand in this case, he called the brothers sophisticated liars in criminal the brothers of the people that were involved that turned on him. Thirteen witnesses and a lot of text messages and private messages back and forth, the tape of Jesse Smollette the day before, doing what they called a dry run through. This is going to be very interesting to see which way this all goes. So we're watching that this half hour, eight hundred and nine four. When shaunos on number we'll get to your calls here in a minute. 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The sleep that you want, you need, you crave, you desire and frankly deserve, will be yours by going to my pillow dot com and clicking on the Sean Hannity Square. It's it's it's really that simple, um anyway. By the way, Leo Terrell two point on Terrell, Greg Jardo joining us. Welcome both of you. Now, this is going to be an interesting verdict you guys. First, before I get to anything else, you want to make a prediction. Jury verdicts are very hard to predict. Leo will start with you guilty. I want to be consistent. I'm gonna be consistent. Why you last now your TV show? I think he's guilty, as said, there's no hung jury because they got verdict though. I think he's guilty. Great, Jarrett, Yeah, I think the evidence of guilt was overwhelming. Whether the jury would agree with that, you know, it's just never never. Sometimes juries engage in what's called jury nullification. They realize the evidence points beyond a reasonable down to guilt, but they just don't like like it, they don't want to do it. Maybe they like the defendant in some way, and so they simply ignore the facts, they ignore the law, and they're empowered to do that. Now. It's rare jury nullification, but it does happen. But I think on balance, any honest, reasonable person who is paying close attention to the evidence, facts, the testimony, you know, the text messages, the videotape surveillance would reach the inexorable King cluson that Jesse Smilett is guilty. You know this could you know, depending on what the verdict is here, could could come back to a lot of the Democrats and the rush to judgment. Now, we do what we always do on this program, and both of you know my policy, and that is we don't rush to judgment. We believe in the presumption of innocence. You're innocent before being proven guilty in a court of law. We had many presidential candidates twenty twenty Democratic presidential candidates that weighed in on it, including Kamala Harris will get to her in a minute. Corey Booker, you know, all expressing solidarity with Smilette at the time, both both blasting the alleged attack as an attempted modern day lynching, and Biden, also a candidate at the time, tweeting we are with you, Jesse and that homophobian racism have no place on our streets and in our hearts. Bernie Sanders, the racist, homophobic attack on Jesse Smiletta is a horrific instant of surging hostility towards minorities around the country, and it can goes on from there. Democrat Eric Swalwell, what happened to Jesse Smollet is violent, tragic. Thankfully he will recover, but hate crimes like this are happening more frequently will there be consequences if, in fact the verdict comes back guilty, Leo, I think the verdict it's necessary for the for there to be a guilty verdict. Why because Jesse Smoller represents everything that's bad about the system. There are true victims of racism, anti gay Bashie. Those people are basically on pins and needles Sean, because there are true cases, real cases. This guy was a fraud, so he has to be found guilty of hopes, because legitimate cases are in jeopardy with guys like him and Greg Jarrett. If it look again, none of us know and we've we've said this before and previous cases that we've covered, and more recently we were correcting our predictions. But let you know, took the stand in the case, how did you think he held up under cross? Any case involving race always attempts politicians, especially liberal politicians and their media collaborators, to rush to judgment. They did even know the facts, the facts that barely been been dipped into When people like Kamala Harris, you know, pronounced it a modern day Lynchy, the same way Jill Biden smeared Kyle Rittenhouse as a white supremacist so you know that part of the equation is not unexpected. They always do that. Smaller. How did he hold up on cross examination? He did not hold up well, in part because his story just makes sense match up with the surveillance, didn't match up with the text message. We'll talk about the surveillance in particular, because the surveillance you're talking about is what the day before the right you know, he ran through the next day's events. The surveillance tape that police presented to prosecutors who presented the jury was what they called a dry runner dress rehearsal of the attack beforehand, and it was compelling evidence of guilt. And so too the fact that police were able to corroborate every aspect of the two brothers story. Who said smalltt hate them for the hopes that all matched up. What didn't match up was a small at story. He claimed the attackers were white. The brothers certainly are not. The defense attorney told the jury the brothers were indeed his clients attackers. So you know, the smolette struggled to try to explain that. And you know, he sent text messages the brothers stating he knew they were innocent, that was construed as an attempt to get them to clam off. You know. The prosecutor recited another message that one of the brothers testified too, from Smolette quote, I want you to attack me, but when you hit me, I want you to kind of pull your punches a curiously hurt, you know what I mean. That's powerful stuff, you know, Sean, And that tells a jury that this was a hoax. When you look at the timeline, Leo Smolette received the racist, homophobic, threatening letter at the studio in Chicago. We're Empire's film. Police believe that Smolette sent the letter himself. Smilette tells police he was attacked by two men, and Greg points out that were white. In fact, they are not m and police say smilet who is African American and apparently, according to all reports, Gay that he told detectives. The deta the attackers yell that he was in Maga Country, an apparent reference to President Trump's Make America Great Again Now. Police say the investigation is shifted after detective's question the brothers and the follow up. His lawyers say he feels victimized, but you got the testimony of the two other men involved in this. I don't see how you get a verdict anything other than guilty. But we'll see. Here's the thing about it. I mean, the letter to the studio did work. The guy was making one hundred thousand dollars for episode he has. He's an egomaniac, egomaniac, a narcissist. And then basically his whole strategy and every guy, every grace that it's bought up. But his whole strategy was to go after one or two jurors to make this a race case. You know his comment, I didn't go to the police because I don't I'm a black man. I don't trust the police. I mean, it's just Nazis. Then you had Black Lives Matter jump into the hoop in the last twenty four hours they support the Jesse Smolette. This guy is nothing more than a liar. And what's going to happen is if the jury system work, vindication will come about it. He would be found guilty. And this is why this will serve as a deterrent to the left. Well, they may not because they don't care if the truth is always is in play. They don't deal with the truth, They deal with lie. But this will serve as a deterrent that you cannot go into a courtroom and lie. And one final point, Seoan his attorney should be up for some ethical charges because, let's face it, he has a dude. They had an obligation to make sure he didn't get up on that witness stand and lie. And I think they knew. So you got Joe Biden, you got Kamala Harris and her tweet Jesse Smilette at Jesse Smilette is one of the kindest, most gentle human beings. I know. I'm praying for his quick recovery. This was an attempted modern day lynching. No one should have to fear for their life because of the second uality of the color of their skin. We must confront this this case, Corey Booker, this vicious attack on Jesse Smollette was an attempted modern day lynching. I'm glad he's safe. To those in Congress who don't feel the urgency to pass anti lynching, an anti lynching bill designing lynching as a federal hate crime, I urge you to pay attention and we can add Al Sharpton as you mentioned, Black Lives Matter their comments this week, the human rights campaign times up all these groups. You know, this is the risk of everybody always rushing to judgment. Greg Jarrett, Yeah, it is. And you know, people should take the approach that you have consistently taken, Sean, and that is, let's wait till we get more information before we start a pining as to what happened. And you are always quick to point out that people are presumed innocent, that they you know, will have their day in court. But politicians, especially in a racially inflamed case, you know, love to pre judge and preordain the result, and of course they end up embarrassing themselves a lot of the time. And this is you know, sort of a classic case of it. Look, I mean this thing, this thing didn't make sense from the beginning when smallatt said he was attacked by by people who said, um, this is Maga country, mcado magac. I mean that that didn't make sense out at two in the morning to get a subway sandwich, uh, you know, and and attacked by people he knew who just happened to know it too in the morning would be there. This thing never added up, and yet politicians, you know, ignored all of that. I'm gonna let you both, Cob, you'll both be joining me in Hannity tonight. Leo two points, ll Greg, Jared, thank you. We have Dave in Wisconsin. Dave, You're on the Sean Hannity Show. Is now everybody's making their way back into the courtroom for the reading of the verdict in the smaller case eight. What do you say, Dave? What's on your mind? Thanks for taking my call and thanks, I thank you. If he has found if he has found guilty, how would that not be considered a hate crime? Since he made reference to Mega, you know, Caucasian people, How does that not reverse racism? You know, you can call it whatever you want if you look. I've often said this, when people lie about other people, There's a reason it made the top ten in terms of the Ten Commandments not bearing false witness because it's so damaging and I know people that this has happened to. It's horrible. It's absolutely horrible if somebody does that. We'll find out soon what the jury thinks in this case. Though, Big time aide Jay Houston, Texas. What's going on, my friend, big time big town Sean. Hey, I want to wish you a happy Thanksgiving, and I want to say, oh, Merry Christmas to all the little kids and everybody at the Sean handed the show. Hope y'all have a merry, merry Christmas. Thanks I think I think big time AJ is coming back to be Uh to join us for a special program this year. That's what I think. Oh, that would be great, Sean, that would be great. That give us a little shiny and shiny in New country. After all with Joe Biden into the crooks and died in the country. But now to the idiot, he's guilty. I mean, Sean, all we did to make race relations better until Obama got in there then messed it up, and then after that here come Biden messing it up worser and worser and worser. And now here this guy gonna try to pull that crap. The Shan, we worked hard to try to make America what it is. And we don't need no race, ain't we people? We God's people, man, We don't need all that crap. That is a bunch of boulogney. And he should be charged for what he did, for false impersonation, that's what that is. And it's sickening to wait you know to know that. Look, I thought the evidence was pretty compelling, but I don't like to predict what juries are going to do. I didn't like to do it in the case of Written House. To me, the case was overwhelming and incontrovertible. The jury took its time. I thought the longer they were out the perhaps the worst it was getting for Written House. But it was by state law in Wisconsin, by definition self defense. All right, big time, aj, I expect to speak to you soon. Um listen. Let me warn my affiliates across the Sean Hannity showed network that we are staying with our coverage. We expected verdict to be read any set now in the Jose Smileett hate hoax trial. We're gonna take calls. In the meantime, we have Trishes in West Virginia. Eight hundred and nine for one. Shaun is our number if you want to weigh in. What's up, Trish? How are you? I'm trying, Thank you, Thank you for taking my column. I'll be quick as another gentleman that just stated what I had called in to say, and that is this should be charged as a hate crime. It is paid against the rate. It is hate against the political group. It's a hate crime, and I don't understand why it's not being charged as such. Thank you so much for talking to me, and have a wonderful day. You have a wonderful day yourself. Anyway, this is going to be interesting. It's gonna be very, very interesting because you know, there's a reason why we are always right. You know. How is it that you know we saw what was coming in the written House case? Right? I mean, it was obvious when you went through each individual case. You see a kid running away from crowd, a mob that's chasing him. They tackle him to the ground. A guy's about to stomp his foot into his face into the pavement. That self defense. You have a case of another guy that is admitting that he pointed a loaded gun at Rittenhouse's head. That's self defense by anybody's definition. And then the case and it was on video of one guy with a horrific history of atrocious behavior grabbing the rifle of Kyle Rittenhouse. And still people think, you just don't know which way the verdict's going to come back, even though by the very definition in the law in Wisconsin, it was crystal clear that this was acting within the law, and it wasn't that hard to figure out, you know, I'm looking at this timeline and then what the police have been able to pick up here? Police, you know, he tells police he was attacked two am. Actor says the men used racist, homophobic slurs, wrapped a rope around his neck, poured an unknown substance on him. And the two people involved he claimed were white. As Leo pointed out, it turns out that that was not the case. And then we find out through you know, that he did a dry run as they call it, caught on surveillance video. Did they one day before the alleged hate crime attack? I mean, that's pretty compelling evidence. And then of course the text messages and private messaging between him and the other two people involved that testified against him. Let's go to Los Angeles. We expect this verdict to be read any minute. How anyway, Will is in Los Angeles, KiB what's up? Will? How are you hi? Afternoon? Yeah? I wanted to point out something. I thought it was bleach that was said that was thrown on him. And the thing about bleach is that freezes at eighteen degree so with the temperature at twenty below zero, what did they throw on him? I don't remember the bleach allegation for some reason. I just you know, remember this happened three years ago, correct, Yeah, but there was a big deal about it, and I looked it up. Bleach freezes at eighteen degrees, So if they threw bleach on him, they were throwing chunks of ice that would have cut him up and beat him up like you'd been hit with a hammer. I don't know that part of it, but if you're right, then there's news and information I never had before. I'll tell you that. Well, it just it further that this is kind of a story. You know, it should have started with once upon a time instead of you know, for real. You know, Jesse Smilett said under oh, there's no hoax. He said he was driving, said he was smoking a blunt and texting with a woman about an MSDNC appearance. Then he testified the attack felt like looney Tunes when he was attacked. But then you got the testimony pull your punches and other things that were said. It's it's it's just going to be interesting. And you know, I find the jury system, as imperfect as it might be at times, we've learned that through the Innocence Project, that you know, people that are innocent are proven innocent after they spend decades in jail. It's a great group. Harry Scheck founded this years ago. It's changed my opinion on the death penalty considering so many people because a new modern techniques with DNA evidence, they can find out the truth and veracity of some of the evidence. And they tested for DNA and they find, oops, we made a mistake. But if it's on videotape, that would be compelling enough for me. But we're gonna watch. Look, there's a reason we've been right, and this is the lesson. I always say that I learned in the Richard Jewel case, and that is I was on the air the AJA he comes out at Lanta Journal constitution fits the profile of the lone bomber because he lives with his mother, and I remember saying on air, well, just because he lives with his mother doesn't make him a domestic terrorist. I didn't know he was listening that day. I found out later and I got one of the first interviews with him, and that has served us well. With Ferguson, we ended up being right because we had sources on the ground that said there were numerous eyewitnesses that confirmed the story of Officer Narren Wilson, that it was in fact Michael Brown reaching into the car and trying to grab the police officers gun. It was Michael Brown charging the police officer. The same thing with Freddy Gray, Duke Lacrosse UVA. How is it we always end up being right because we don't rush to judgment and we do our own fact checking, something the media and these idiot politicians ought to start learning from. All Right, we'll take a quick break, we'll come back, we'll continue. Oh wait, we're almost at the end. We're at the end of the show. I'm not going to get the verdict on darn it. But what I'm hoping is is that we'll happen for you tonight anyway, So tune in tonight. The verdict has been reached in the Jesse Smillette hate hoax trial. My guess is I think it's going to come back guilty, but you never know. We'll have the answer tonight nineties and set DVR Hannity on Fox. We'll see it. Then back here tomorrow. We'll never forget you make this show possible thanks for being with us,