I don't know what's my favorite. It's either three O three three oh, or it's we choose truth over facts. And then of course then that gets really ugly. Poor kids is just as bright as white kids. Yeah, crazy, creepy. Uh. This is more than a gaff prone Biden. It's a disaster for the Democratic Party that's unfolding before the rise. We even have Democrats in Iowa. Iowa Democrats historically they want a more establishment candidate to vote for. And it is looking like a deep panic has said in to the Democratic Party. And and as I've been telling you, I mean, I'm watching the media very very closely these days, and I'm telling you it is, uh, whatever the talking point of the day is, they're gonna lock in and they're gonna stick to it, and they're gonna speak in one voice, whether it's Russia, Russia, impeachment, impeachment. The crisis at the board is not a crisis at the border. What do they call it a They called it a miss something, I forget what they call a manufactured crisis at the border, impeachment, impeachment. Then of course, stormy stormy, racist, racist, and they don't stop. You know, now it's you've got you know, what do we have here at the talking point all week long? Donald Trump is a racist. He wants an all white nation. You know Liberal Morning Joe Obama, you know, literally Joe saying on their show, they're trying to keep America a majority white country. Julian Castro, They're clearly trying to establish a whiter nation. This Katie k BBC lady, whatever her name is, it's about keeping America white. And then of course you have well Nicole Wallace claiming that, oh Trump is planning the extermination of Latinos. It's this is insanity, um, but it is all they've got. They don't have ideas. Muller let them down. Muller's life raft never came even when he went to testify, even though everybody knew he was not fully up to speed to testify, but they didn't care, so they stuck with what Joe Biden. Poor kids are just as bright as white kids. And you can't go to a seven eleven or Duncan Knownans unless you have a slight Indian accent. Then, for the first time ever, you know, we have somebody that is articulate and clean and bright, an African American. This is storybook, man. I mean, who talks like this, not remembering Margaret Thatcher is no longer the Prime Minister, she's long gone in Great Britain. Or saying that he was vice president and he met with the kids from Parkland. No, you weren't vice president. That was twenty eighteen. You're out for two years, and so there is a panic here. Even New York Magazine. Local party officials expressing concern this weekend in Iowa that Biden's onstage performance and the notion of his electability or in question, he's notally compelling. The Madison County party chair told The Washington Post, they're starting to be real fear that cannot that he cannot hold his own In a debate against Donald Trump, the party chair from Grundy County wished that he'd get his mojo back and reminisced over Biden of twenty twelve when he debated then vice presidential hopeful Paul Ryan. I don't think they're gonna get out from underneath this at all. Remember he also said after the shootings, the ones that took place in El Paso, Texas and the hours later Dayton, Ohio, Well, he referred to those having taken place in Houston and Michigan. That's how bad this is getting him. By the way, it wasn't the first time that he referred to Teresa May as Margaret Thatcher. That was the second time that he made that blunder. Then he's got his own record as vice president, which is a disaster. Nobody ever talks about that. Everyone thinks that there's just going to be able to gloss over the failing record of Biden and Obama. That's not gonna work either. He's a gaff machine. A second, and then all right, so then what are you left with? You're not left with a whole hell of a lot. Yeah, well, Kamala Harris and she wants Medicare for all, and you can't keep your own healthcare insurance, we're doomed. That means we will all be under the government system. Let me tell you what that means. We can't afford it. It would take up nearly the first tenure to take up the entire budget, and I am concerned about budget deficits. First thing we've got to do is build up our defenses, become energy independent. Yeah, we got to get a hold of the budget. Which will happen in my opinion, But I digress for a second. Here we have a lot of news. We are expecting a report. John Solomon, investigative reporter and the executive vice president of the Hill will join us. We expect that the first of what might be at least three, maybe four full reports that will be coming out. The one will be somewhat anti climatic tomorrow. This is information we've already known about come to up top secret classified information. That would be the information that was in his house that the FBI retrieved a month after he was fired. That was the information that he leaked to his professor friend to the New York Times for the purpose of getting a special counsel appointed. This a referral, of course, for prosecution has not been pursued. And then also the issue of a lack of candor in that specific case. But that is the lowest hanging of fruit, and the issues that are behind it are so significant, which would include a premeditated systemic fraud committed a knowing fraud against in the FISI court application process, which means that they were warned fully. That will be the Horowitz report on that there may be a separate report on all of the leaking from within the intelligence community in the DOJ and the FBI, that too will be coming out, And probably the biggest and most damning report of all is going to be the outsourcing of intelligence. Maybe we'll call this the bar report of the report of the combination thereof, and that means that that which is illegal spying on Americans without warrants, spying on a presidential candidate, a transition team, and a president and outsourcing that illegal activity to our allies, oh, let's say in Italy, Great Britain and Australia is all likely to be exposed and explosively. So so we are realistic here. Don't expect tomorrow's report to be the big cahuna. Wait for FISA, wait for this report on the outsourcing of intelligence gathering and the abuse of power at levels that we never dreamed of, and literally the powerful tools of intelligence that we entrust to the ninety nine percent of these brave people that work at the NSA and the CIA, and then of course our law enforcement, with the premier of the world's premier law enforcement is our FBI. They've been damaged because of the act of a few at the top, abusing their power and trying to influence the outcome of a presidential election and then unseat a duly elected president because they don't like them. And the same with the intelligence community. We have the premier intelligence gathering services in the entire world. We are the envy of the world. Say all you want about Russian interference. Whatever we do to them is I'm telling you, a thousand times more powerful. And don't think we don't spy on our enemies. We do, and thank god we do. But those powerful tools of intelligence can't be turned on political opponents, or we're not going to have a country. You cannot abuse these tools of intelligence. As powerful as they are, we need them for our enemies, both foreign and domestic, to protect our constitutional republic. And it appears that all of this abuse of power, not only will come out, will be exposed. And every source I have tells me confidently it'll shock the conscience and soul of the American people and it will all be exposed. So we'll get into all of this as the program unfolds here today, we just have a lot on our plate. Well this, we have Townhall dot com. You know, Democrats, they never seem to get tired of accusing ICE agents of mistreating illegal immigrants. Have you ever noticed that? I bet you won't hear Chuck, Nancy Acacio Cortez, or any of the squad I'll ever utter a peep about or a protest about what just happened to an eleven year old girl in Maryland. Because two illegal immigrants have been accused of raping an eleven year old Maryland girl over an extended period of time, and the two illegals, both in their late twenties, we're friends with the victim's older brother, and the first allegedly raped the girl in July of twenty eighteen. Now this is why I always go out of my way to say, look me and O'Reilly, we're talking about yesterday. It's true. I've been down to the border fourteen times. I have been at the Rio grand I have been all the way across the border through San Diego. I've been in the drug warehouses. I've been up in helicopters with these agents trying to protect our border. I have been out on boats with them. I have been on alterrained vehicles with them. I have been even on horseback and I nearly fell off out there with them. One of the agents saved me. I've been there when people are arrested. I've been there when drug dealers and gang members have been arrested, and I have the video to prove it. I've been in there. When you see the drug warehouses, you can't believe it. And what I don't understand is that if we now know definitively that ninety percent of America's heroin crosses that southern border, and that we're losing nearly three hundred Americans a week because of the use of heroin and opioids, and now we've got a lot of the fent and all that is killing you know, thousands of people every month in this country that's crossing our southern border. And then we have while I sat through the security briefing with then Texas Governor Rick Perry, and we had all the border professionals, and they put together an incredible power point. And then the power point they pointed out in a seven year period, six hundred and forty two thousand crimes committed against Texans alone, and some of those crimes as severe as murder, rape, and violent assault. And this is happening because we're not vetting people at the border. I'll concede. The ninety nine percent want what we all take for granted. The greatest, single, best country God, our Creator, has ever given man, and the only reason we have this freedom is as a gift from God, protected by the toughest, meanest, most powerful military on the face of this earth. That's why we have freedom. So if we're gonna let people in, we have a right to vet them. We have a right to know that they have a means of taking care of themselves. Democrats, they're running on the notion that you can be in the country thirty seconds and you're gonna get free medical care, and you're gonna get free access to our educational system, and you're gonna get everything free, free, free. Well, we can't afford it, number one, and they're insisting that we take it. But I'm worried first about the one percent. Build the wall, put the door in the wall, and that's what the President is doing. And with the President with his emergency orders, he has successfully now on the court battle, and that means that he will be reallocating defense funds to continue his building of the wall, repairing of the wall, which is going on now as we speak. And we had one of the top agents on what was the last week saying he expects by twenty twenty that some five hundred miles of fence will be fixed and repaired, and new wall will be up and it will be more secure than it's ever been and we'll probably still love more to do, but it's just the beginning of all of this. You know. Then you got people like you know, Mayor Pete, mister Buddha judge, you know he helped immigrants for ICE raids. We have states like California, cities like San Francisco, cities like New York City, they actually help illegal immigrants break the law, even criminal aliens they get out of prison. They won't cooperate with ICE officials to deport the criminals. We're not talking about children here. And never mind the ridiculous notion. Will somebody please please take Congresswoman to Cassio Cortez to Auschwitz and let us see and study and learn what a concentration campus like and then we can send it to the detention center that Fox News as Griff Jenkins went to the one with the soccer field and the wreck facilities, the one that had the TVs and the telephones for those being detained, the ones with the beds and the blankets and the pillows, the ones that provided the doctors and medical attention and medicines and the baby formula and the diapers and everything else that was required. Yeah, that you're going to compare that to Auschwitz and get away with it. Well, Buddha, judge, we now found out that, you know, when he was mayor, one of the mayor's challenges and models for America's futures. Two terms of mayor at South Bend, you know, we found creative ways to navigate within the structures of what the real law is about and bring undocumented immigrants and their families into the city's fold. And he partnered with local nonprofits and he instituted a community residing card program to help undocumented South Bend residents open bank accounts, fill prescriptions, filled, know your rights. I mean, they're doing everything they can do to aid in the bed. Why are these lawmakers never willing to enforce the law. If they want to change the law, good luck, go to the American people. Make your agenda known and try and get these laws implemented. But no, they just make them up as they go along. All right, as we continue on eight hundred nine for one Shawn now when we're joined by John Solomon and his investigative report Justice Department documents obtained by Judicial Watch. This is just breaking show that the wife of Bruce Or, the fourth highest person inside the Justice Department at the time, that his wife and Nellie Or, working for Fusion GPS as a researcher into all things Donald Trump and this phony Russia conspiracy theory, that she pretty much acted as a virtual campaign mole for Clinton inside the Justice Department, also feeding the FBI one bogus Russiagate conspiracy theory after another, even after Trump had won the presidency in twenty sixteen. Oh where did it all come from? The documents show Bruce Or discussing information obtained through his wife, Nellie including the dirty Clinton Boughton paid for phony Russian Trump dossier and a spreadsheet that tried to link President Trump to dozens of Russians, and Nellie Or's spreadsheet purports to show linkages between Trump, his family and criminal figures, many of whom were Russians, and a list of individuals allegedly linked to Trump include a Russian that was involved in a gangland killing, and Uzbeg mafia Don a former KGB officers aspected in the murder. Paul Tatum, a Russian who reportedly buys up banks and pumps them dry, a Russian money launderer for Sergei Magnitsky, a Turk accused of shipping oil for Isis. A couple who lent their name to the Trump Institute promoting a get Rich Quick scheme, and a man who poured him a drink and others, Well, isn't that nice? Then they also Bruce or emailed himself a document entitled Maniport Chronology, another Nelly or Fusion GPS document which detailed maniports travel and interactions with Russians and other officials. Jeez, and I thought two hookers urinating in a bed in the Ritz and Moscow was going to be a big deal. We love more with John Solomon coming up all right, twenty five now until the top of the hour. One hundred and nine for one Seawan is our number if you want to be a part of the program. I am telling you this is full on panic as it relates to what's going on in the Democratic Party and with Joe Biden. And it's not like they have a lot of other options here. I mean, there are now people saying, well, maybe we really need to look at Buddha judge, because Kamala Harris has now tied herself to such radical extremism, and of course AOC and the Squad and everything in between. But I look, I think in a very smart and nice way, David Axelrod, he's not a dummy. He's a pretty smart guy, and he orchestrated the whole. Yes, we can hope and change mantra of Obama, but you got to give Obama some credit. I mean, number one, he didn't have a media that would ever vet him. But he had a dynamic personality and a forceful delivery and energy of g that you know that caught on and people began to believe the slogans and so on and so forth. You know, Bernie Sanders is out there, you know, with his socialism, we're going to go to the eighty year old socialist from Vermont is gonna beat Donald Trump in this economy? I don't think so. And then Bernie accusing Israel of racism and threatening to cut off us. Hey, that's not gonna fly. He's obviously throwing in with the Omar Talib crowd, which is I don't link good politics. You got a pull in New Hampshire now showing Biden is sinking there. Sanders leads the field of New Hampshire with the twenty one percent Grabs marketing pull release today. Sanders following is followed by Biden with fifteen Elizabeth Warren with twelve. I would think that Warren might come up there. And of course, not only has Kamala Harris brought into the New Green Deal and Medicare for all and you have no choice for insurance. I didn't think she was particularly nice to the older lady when she was calling out BINGO numbers in Iowa the other day. It seemed like she didn't want to hear it when the lady said, don't take away my healthcare and anyway, So the Washington Post even had to call out Elizabeth Warren one twenty four and Harris four pinocchios for spreading their anti cop Ferguson smear because they both were given four pinocchios by the Washington Post. By the way, somebody needs to give pinocchios to the Washington Post for their two years plus years of lying in conspiracy theories and false reporting and propaganda and misinformation and the political hatchet job they do pretty much every day on the President, just like the faked New York Times. But anyway, but even in this case, their fact checker, who checks the fact checkers, gave its harshest rating of four pinocchios to both Kamala Harris and Elizabeth Warren, who were claiming that Michael Brown and Ferguson, Missouri, was murdered in twenty fourteen by officer Darren Wilson. Now, the only problem is they ignored the Justice Department findings and on top of that, they gave what is just an absolute false narrative that had been debunked repeatedly by eyewitness after eyewitness in that case. Now Brown had you know this idea that Brown had been murdered by officer Wilson. No, he wasn't indicted for the crime. The Obama administration's Justice Department, they issued an eighty six page report. They concluded there was no credible evidence at all that Wilson wasn't telling the truth and that Brown was killed in self defense as he was charging after him full on after he in fact had reached into the police car. Remember the first shot went off. He reached and tried to grab Darren Wilson's gun. That's where the first shot went off. This is after the robbery that we had on videotape. And remember the person that said hands up, don't shoot, if I recall correctly, was the guy that was also involved in that incident in the grocery store, the convenience shop. And instead they had witnessed after witness after witness, all testifying and many of them fearing reprisal when they told the truth, and they told the truth that in fact, yeah, it was Michael Brown charging at Darren Wilson, who's telling him to stop? And the guy had no choice in that particular matter. His career was ruined because he just laughed. He said, who needs this? You know, I'm going to tell you something. This is understand. These are really very interesting, new dynamic times, and I think all of it really comes down to the fact that America chose, I believe rightly to elect the president who was a disruptive force and a threat to all things that are the swamp, all things that represent the status quo, all things that are the sewer all things that are the establishment which is not serving the American people. Well, and that's why the iconoclass Donald Trump was elected. And I think Donald Trump is clearly with the people that went out in twenty sixteen as popular, if not more popular than he was when he ran in twenty fifteen and sixteen. And I think one of the reasons people number one in spite of the media and they're constant harping on whatever false talking point narrative of the day, manufactured Chris chrisis, impeachment, racism, stormy, Russia, Russia. You know, they see what has happened here. They see that the media mob had a real Russia interference story and Russian lies, purchased, real Russian lies leaked for the prop to the Washington Post, among others. Let's fact check that. Mister Kessler and people like Michael Izakoff of you know, he'll he'll pretty much print anything that's fed to him to create circular reporting. It was all the same source the dirty Clinton paid for Russian dossier that was never verified. This, of course all laughter. They rigged an investigation when the evidence was overwhelming, slam dunk, incontrovertible, that Hillary Clinton violated the Espionage Act, committed numerous other felonies associated with top secret classified information on a private server, and that was all covered up on her behalf. And then of course an obstruction case which was slam dunk. And that's her deletions of subpoena emails and the destruction of the hard drive bleach bid and the hammers on devices and the removal of sim cards. Nobody in the media mob felt like telling that story, just like they don't seem concerned the eye believers in the case of Lieutenant governor in Virginia, but they cared about Cavanaugh. All of this is political. All of these people are so are connected that they basically speak in one voice every single day, whatever the narrative of the day happens to be. And I'm going to tell you something, this is the biggest campaign contribution that will ever be given in the history of any presidential race. And that is the rot that exists in print media like the Washington Post, in the New York Times, the rot that would represent the big three networks, ABC, CBS and NBC. I mean, how does NBC have an anchor that has a job today after saying Donald Trump has a plan to exterminate Latinos, and that's pretty much daily fair for the people in the media, whatever the talking point of the day is, you can pretty much guarantee that they're gonna go out with it, and they're gonna spread it, and they're gonna run with it, and they'll never fact check themselves. They're never gonna say, oh, I think we're wrong. Oh I think we got this wrong. I think we need to apologize. I think we need to issue a correction. It's been two and a half years of this never ending line that has gone on, and they just continue on with it, and whoever emerges as the twenty twenty candidate for the Democratic Party, they're gonna end up supporting, and they're going to support in a major way, and they're not gonna care. You know. One of the more interesting anecdotal bits of evidence about Trump's popularity has to do with a report that just came out. Sixty one percent of the money that's being raised directly by the Trump campaign this election cycle, that's all coming from small donors. Well, I think that would be the people that are waiting, you know, at seven o'clock in the morning or even earlier the night before, in tailgating and hanging out in the pouring rain and the hopes that they may get one of the twenty thousand seats and whatever arena. Donald Trump will be speaking out at a rally later that night. Well, it seems like they're pretty energized. I don't think that people that voted for Trump a twenty sixteen are disappointed in terms of him keeping his promises. There are a few disgruntled people. I mean, I don't know, but he's ever going to please everybody out there. But I mean, he did keep his word on judges for the Court, and he did pick from the list he gave us ahead of time as it relates to Supreme Court justices and constitutionalists. He did give us the biggest tax cuts in history. He followed through on that. He's eliminated more Washington government bureaucracy in less than three years than had been done in the last thirty three years. I mean, we've been piling on all these burdens and regulations. It's costing us a fortune because business passed the cost on to us. And I've never seen anyone as active as this president in recruiting big companies to spend their dollars in this country and build their factories in this country and the manufacturing centers in this country. Than this president. He has no problem getting on the phone and asking CEOs of what I what's getting in the way of you building here and not Mexico. You know, what are we doing wrong? Tell me what's hurting you? How can how can government better serve you? Because he wants those Americans in those towns in Ohio and Pennsylvania and Wisconsin and Michigan. He wants those those people to have jobs and low and behold, we have the best employment situation since nineteen sixty nine. There's nobody in the media that's going to report that. A few of US talk show hosts will report it. You know, record low unemployment again, another record for African Americans at last week and a half, record low unemployment Hispanic Americans. A guy that has a plan to exterminate Latinos, according to NBC. You know, record law unemployment, record law unemployment for Asian Americans, women in the workforce, youth unemployment. You th unemployment is important because that means kids aren't going to be on the streets getting in trouble. When I was young and I had a job. I wasn't getting in trouble. That's good. Learn how to work, learn what real life's about. Every kid can use that that opportunity in life. But now sixty one percent of the money raised, well, that would be anecdotal that Donald Trump isn't losing the enthusiasm he out in twenty sixteen. So he got rid of the regulations, He kept his promises on judges. He gave us the biggest tax cut in history. You see. He kept his word and negotiated better trade deals. He's doing it with our European partners. He's done it with Canada and Mexico. He's now in the middle of a fight that he's gonna win with China. At some point. I'm getting concessions. It's not where we want it to be. It's not the best in terms of stability for the stock market. Not that I really most people really care about the stock market that much. I mean, honestly, it's the stock market for seventy percent of Americans. All these numbers are meaningless. Let's first get to survival. I would like to see American I think the best thing this president has done has opened up our energy independence for the first time in seventy five years, and by that is the single biggest wealth creator resource we have as a country. If you want to raise the standard of living of every American, we got all the oil, natural gas, clean coal that we could ever want. And if we start taking it out in larger and larger quantities and shipping it abroad and providing the energy needs the lifeblood of every economy on the face of this earth, that alone will raise the standard of living of every American because that industry is paying big money career jobs in basically every aspect of the energy, energy process or the energy industry, starting with you. Those that drive the energy and trucks are being trained to being paid eighty grand a year without any overtime, and then you have as much overtime as you can ever want. But of course that's not stories not going to be told by the media. They just you know, how can we hate Trump today? Let's call them how can we call them a bigger racist today? It goes on and by their standards in the media, well, then Bernie Sanders responsible for the skill Lee shooting, Elizabeth Warren, the Dayton shooting, all the Democrats that say they're concentration camps. Well, the shooting that has taken place in San Antonio and the ICE facilities, will they be responsible for that? Their rhetoric caused it? Or the other attacks? For example, in July of twenty nineteen, when the Washington Iceity facility you know, was shot at, yet a man accused of hurling incendiary devices at that Washington ICE facility, he was shot by police. Or the one in Arizona, the suspect and the shooting involving ICE special agents were identified there. Then you've got, of course Democrats. You have a representative Getierrez calling ICE agents gestopo. Is he responsible then for what happened in San Antonio? Or there's you know, liberal resistance dot net and it says ICE the American Gestapo, or a Cassio Cortes, Alexandria Cossio Cortez, the congresswoman from Queens, New York, or doubling down on dumb and stupid and comparing the detention centers to concentration camps. Will somebody please take this woman over to Auschwitz and somebody that we have plenty of video to show her what a real concentration camp looks like. And then we can go take her to the one that Griff Jenkins went to with the soccer fields, the wreck facilities, the phones, oh, the computers, and let's see what else did they have? There are the recreational facilities. They had medical care, they had beds, they had blankets, they had pillows. That's not what Auschwitz was and not a concentration camp. Pretty unbelievable. You know, Democratic congresswoman called Ice gestapo of America. This Vet Clark congresswoman, Well she responsible of what's happening. What about all these people like Mayor Pete, he helped prepare immigrants when Ice raids were coming. What about these the eating in the betting and sanctuary cities and states? You know Donald Trump moderndega stop all said almost every day by people on NBC, ABCCBS. They don't care about the truth. They'll never tell the truth, and that's why so many people hate them. But the question will be, as it is every election. Are you better off than you were four years ago? Donald Trump lost many of his supporters. I don't think so. And what about the people best employment situation since nineteen sixty nine? The millions and millions now off of food stamps, out of poverty, out of work, now working. Will they consider voting for Donald Trump because they have a better situation? I think the answers yes. Good luck to crazy Uncle Joe and company. Frankly angry to learn of the MCC's failure to adequately secure this prisoner. We are now learning of serious irregularities at this facility that are deeply concerning and demand a thorough investigation. The FBI and the Office of Inspector General are doing just that. We will get to the bottom of what happened, and there will be accountability. But let me assure you that this case will continue on against anyone who was complicit with Epstein. Any co conspirators should not rest easy. The victims deserve justice and they will get it. They deserve justice and they will get it. That the commitment from the Attorney General bar as it relates to the Epstein death in jail. Many many questions remain. There are two stories that we are following with investigative reporter and executive vice president columnist for The Hill, John Solomon. One has to do with Epstein. We now have memos showing the DJ has been warning for decades about really serious stark problems inside the federal prison system. The issue in Epstein's death closely resemble those and high profile inmate suicide probe from twenty four years earlier. Why haven't they fixed it? You see internal reviews frequently flagging security issues like security camera blind spots. You had the the unions fumbling contraband surge policies for ten years despite safety concerns. The question is, well, what high profile people was Epstein talking about when he talked to a New York reporter saying, Oh, yeah, I've got a lot of dirt on a lot of people. And with all the media out there, and they're sick, twisted and ugly conspiracy theories. Once again, it's hard to get to the truth. We don't know what the answers are at this moment. We'll get there anyway. John Solomon joins us on this, and we're also expecting what is the first of what will be at least three major reports that will be coming out. Reports two and three will be the massive bombshells we've been predicting for over two years. John Solomon, let's start on the Epstein case. Yeah, absolutely, Listen, there's a lot of things that are still uncertain in the factual narrative that we need to all build before we come to final conclusions. But one thing is certain. The Justice Department, for twenty five years has been repeatedly and chronically warned that it's Bureau of Prisons bureaucracy suffered from serious shortcomings. And these warnings began shortly after another famous suicide in prison back in nineteen ninety five and Oklahoma City, right after the Oklahoma City bombing aftermath, a gentleman named Trentadu hung himself in the jail after being beat up, and the significant failures of the prison bureaucracy to protect him, to properly investigate his death, to administer potential life saving help to him when he was still partially live, mirror so closely what happened to Epstein. And when you read through these twenty five years of Inspector General reports and internal memos, they make clear that the Bureau Prisons hasn't learned much, hasn't changed much in its behavior in twenty five years between these two epic deaths in prison. The words of Epstein I have dirt on powerful people well connected. One of the interesting things the media won't focus on. There was one guy that did stand up to him in a pretty bold, dramatic public fashion, and that was Donald Trump sixteen years ago when he threw Epstein out of moral lago. You know, for all the people speculating though Donald Trump had him killed, the Deborah Messings of the world, I mean, the conspiracy theories are obscene and absurd. But yet, after all we've been through fairly predictable. I guess at this point probably if there was dirt on Donald Trump, I doubt Donald Trump would have publicly humiliated him in the high society of Palm Beach, which, as you and I both know, means so much to so many where you stand in the pecking orders everything. But we also have this issue of guards that are overwork. Now we have reports on the paper today that in fact these guards may very well have been sleeping. There is massive overtime demands that are mandatory, and I know this from my own life and my mother it was mandatory. She does sixteen hours shifts week, seven days a week, week in and week out. You know, how to wake this woman up for her next sixteen hours shifts. He had an alarm clock and when it went off, the whole neighborhood bought a bomb one off in our house. It was the only way she could get up, the only way to get up, because she was so tired. That's how tired these guys are, and because nobody wants to work in these prisons. And one report today that prison guards fell asleep and then they falsified records to cover it up. That's that's it's very similar to what we saw in the Oklahoma City case. Listen. One of the things I found in these memos there are five thousand prison jobs that the Bureau Prisons has had trouble filling over the last couple of years. That's a red flag right there. Right If you're down five thousand staff positions, you know you have to be cutting corners in order to make ends meet. There's going and we can go through many things. Listen. It took ten years for the Bureau Prisons to come with a policy to fight the rapid growth of contraband, which is a way that someone can commit suicide or a crime or murder in prison. Contraband one of the biggest threats to prison guards and to the prison population. Ten years to come up with a plan when they instituted. The ig found boy, it is full of holes. In fact, here's one hole. The cameras that are supposed to protect the guards have giant blind spots, which and the prisoners know what those blind spots are. They can jump someone and never be caught on camera. If you take ten years to build a plan and you still have holes like that, you're not serving the American people. You're right. But John, even further than that, they have the means of installing a camera in every single cell, and in such a way as they're not going to be able to damage the camera, or if they start to try, you'll be able to run in there and stop them. But more importantly, you could have one prison guards, one correction officer watching one hundred cameras, and they'll know if somebody's trying to commit suicide in seconds. What you see here is the neglect of the permanent bureaucracy of the Justice Department, the same bureaucray see that gave us the Sharad that was the Russia investigation. You have people collecting checks and bonuses and patting themselves on the back of awards who do not do the American people any good. They don't serve, They don't use common sense the way you and I have to run our businesses in our lives every day. You know, we call it the deef state. We call it the permanent bureaucracy. But at some point, someone like Attorney General bar has to hold these people accountable in a way that's painful. And I believe the Epstein moment is going to be a flashpoint in that accountability process, as is the ongoing John Durham probe and Russia. About the Russia case, I think in both places that permanent bureaucracy has gotten a free ride, bad performance, rewarding themselves. They're going to be how to account for the first time in a very long time, and all that neglect from the Obama years of the Justice Department and even earlier is finally going to be put on the table and fixed. I think that's the big hope for the American people. Well, the problem is is you've got you know, people out there, celebrity they were messing actually saying Trump finally made good on his promise to kill someone, shoot someone in the middle of Fifth Avenue or Michael Moore. I guess a country dumb enough to elect Trump is stupid enough to believe that Epstein committed suicide. And they did it, you know, on the traditional Friday night early Saturday morning dunk document dumb time when they know the fewest number of people will follow it. And then Rosie O'Donnell, you know, genius that she is saying, well, Jeffrey Epstein's worms have opened and they will be crawling over some very powerful people. Oh that well, sorry, that was meathead Rob Reiner. But a right, let me move on to the next bit of information. So let me give you what I'm hearing, because while we do compare notes quite a bit. You're busy, I'm busy, and we kind of catch up at moments when we're getting to a critical point. Last night, you kind of accidentally on purpose because I know you let out of the bag. There's a pretty quickly, didn't you? I did? I mean, unfortunately, you know, our friendship allows for that. I loved it. But we expect maybe the first and what we expect to be what I am told will likely be three separate reports. That's correct. Report number one will be a follow up. This will be from the Inspector General Harrowitz right as it relates to Jim Comey violating the Espionage Act. Yeah, and their determination that he was lacking candor, in other words, lying that would be what Papadoppolo's manaphort Cohen We're all charged with and spend time in jail for that is that is what we know. It to be the most minimal by far. It doesn't even compare to the level of what we're heading into. UM the I agree. I think this is the first opening salvo. It's a narrow investigation looking at how James Comey handled his um memos from his meetings with the President about the Russia case, many which were classified, one which was several that were leaked to his lawyers, one leak to the media that had classified information that we already broke the story a couple of weeks ago. We know that he was referred for prosecution. DOJ declined prosecution because they thought it was a weak case. They're looking at other more serious matters with Komy. Let me stop you here. They thought it was a weak case in this sense, they did not want to start with a case that wasn't a guaranteed slam dunk conviction. And as you look at intent, that word intent becomes in a courtroom a word that would have been focused on by the defense like a laser beam, and proving intent is very difficult to do absolutely and beyond intent. There's a second issue here, which is the classification of the document that was actually leaked to the media, which is the most egregious of the examples in the Komey's handling was a document that didn't have markings on it, saying it was classified until after he returned it to the FBI. Now, in fairness, he stole the document from the FBI gave it to his Laura's before it had gone through the review process. That's bad conduct, but it's very hard for a jury to say, well, listen, it wasn't mark classified when he leaked it. Art. We get he didn't follow the rules, but we can't prove that he knew it was classified when he said it. That's why the prosecutors made the decision they did it. They would have made this decision whether it was Jim Comey or Joe Smith, and I think prosecutors would do this every day. You have discretion when you realize that a jury might not grasp or might not appreciate the nuances of the case. God doesn't mean Jim Comey's out out of trouble in any way or shape or form. His testimony before Congress is still being examined for truthfulness and his conduct in signing that first FISA warrant, what he knew before he signed it, what the FBI allowed itself to represent that we now know not to be true. Those are things that are more serious issues that I still think linger. Okay, So if we were going to if we were going to name the reports, we would say likely Thursday. Not here, it's likely Thursday. That's what I'm hearing. Yep, all right, which is the minor comy report by Harowitz. Then we're going to get the full Fiser report. What is your timeline for that? That will be the one that will perill, beyond any doubt, premeditated fraud in order to get a FISA application, denying American citizens their constitutional rights and due process and literally committing a premeditative fraud on the court for also the purposes of spying on an opposition party campaign, a president elect and then a president of the United States. That will be big. That will be I think that will be mid September to early October as the timeframe I'm hearing from people that are in the know. But in between that FISA report in the economy report, there could be a second report, an interim report that comes out that takes a look at the culture of leaking inside the FBI and the practice of FBI agents allowing for a leak to occur and then using the leaked information. The newspaper or media report that comes from it has potential evidence. They're looking at that as well. That could be a separate report given the breath of evidence I'm told they found in that practice. So that would be the circular reporting that we've discussed off, and that would be their media allies, conspiracy theorist hacks like oh, let's say Michael Isikoff, who's a conspiracy theorist and propagandist who just prints whatever that he's told to print. I actually am hearing something a little different. Will compare notes, will come back, John Solomon, Executive vice president of The Hill Investigative Reporter, And we are awaiting what will be at least three reports maybe now, based on what he's telling me for But we'll take a break, we'll come back, We'll continue right as we continue with John Solomon, investigative reporter, Executive Vice President of the Hill. All Right, so you're saying that the second report again Thursday, we expect the Komy stuff, which we pretty much already know. There might be one on the systemic leaking that's separate and apart from what I had known was going to be. Apart, then we've got the FIA Inspector General report, which full show premeditated fraud after numerous warnings that the information paid for by Hillary was false and they purposely misled a FISA chord on multiple occasions. But I also know that there is an undertaking that has been going on all through Europe, and that in this undertaking we might be getting to the origins of the Russia Trump conspiracy, and it might involve top intelligence people that were outs or sourcing intelligence gathering, spying on Americans to our allied spying agencies, things that they knew would be illegal for them to do, and that these agencies fully participated in. And there was some type of reciprocity going on, which means the powerful tools of intelligence were turned on the American people by some very high ranking intelligence people. Yeah, listen, a few weeks ago, Attorney General bar used a very specific term I've never heard used before, political surveillance. How do they term that doesn't belong in a lexicon of the Justice Department or the FBI or the intelligence community here in America. There is some suggestion that efforts were initiated overseas, either with the encouragement or wink of the United States, to spy on certain political figures bring intelligence in that would create the basis for an investigation. A lot of work needs to be done before we nail down the facts on that, but there is clearly an inquiry looking at this sort of loose network of foreign private foreign country intelligence agencies were working loosely with US intelligence perhaps to carry out this dirty trick that was carried out on Donald Trump during the twenty sixteen election. Now I have some breaking news for him. Just a few minutes ago, the Justice Department has released the memos that Nelly or prepared for her husband Bruce to give to the Justice Department in the FBI. When people read these memos, they're going to roll their eyes. You want to talk about tinfoil hat conspiracy data. These spreadsheets that were put together on Manafort and Donald Trump's hideous connections to Russia as they're portrayed in they're laughable. Most of them were laughed out of the box by the Muller investigation. But for the first time we now know exactly what Nelli or contractor for Fusion GPS, and Hillary Clinton divided her husband and used her husband as a conduit to get dirt on Trump to the FBI during and after the election. And when people read what it is, you'll wonder why the FBI ever accepted this information in the beginning. It's very troubling stuff. Another example of that conflict of interest we've been talking about. Stay right there, John Solomon, investigative reporter, Executive Vice President of The Hill, will keep him onto the other side of this break all right, twenty five now till the top of the hour, eight hundred and nine four one Sean our toll free telephone number. He is gracious, elely agreed to stay longer with us, Our friend, John Solomon, Investigative reporter, Executive Vice president of The Hill. We gave you as breaking news on the systemic prison problems that have now gone on for decades and have not been resolved on the federal level. And eerie similarities to other suicides that had taken place twenty twenty five, thirty years ago. But also we are awaiting the first of what will be at least three reports of abuse of power and corruption, maybe as early as even tomorrow. As relates to James Comy, this is information we kind of knew about, but now we'll get the formal inspector General report on Comy. The information that was in fact classified that he took to his own home a month after he left office. The home was rated by his former employees at the FBI. He was apparently interrogated at the time, and those documents had no right being there. Those are the documents that he ultimately leaked to his journalist friend of Columbia, his professor friend, who then was told to leak to The New York Times for the stated purpose of getting a special counsel appointed, which happened to be his BF Robert Muller, who had been applying for the job that Comy left or was fired from, just the day before he became special counsel, Which is a conflict in and of itself anyway, So we expect that report tomorrow. As John just explained in the last half hour. It no real bombshells here. My sources telling me that there's a reason. They have found evidence that in fact, the Espionage Act was violated by keeping those classified documents, and that Comy himself showed a lack of candor, which means he lied to the FBI correct absolutely certainly wasn't forthcoming. I think the actual allegation that the report focuses on, I'm told is the fact that when the FBI came, his own agents came to pick up these documents Sean that he had taken from the FBI improperly, he failed to tell them that they weren't only in his possession, that he leaked them to other people. So that delayed the FBI from discovering for some time that there was a leak of this classified information beyond just James Comey removing him from his office. So that's the lack of candor. It's a lack of candor biomission. But when you're the former FBI director, you owe it to your bureau to tell your agents, who work hard every day, everything you did with something. When you know they came to your house, you get to collect something that you shouldn't have had in your possession. It's one of the things that I think will come out in that report as early as tomorrow. I want to stay on this and we'll go through each of the items individually, because I don't want people, we don't give false hope to people, and we're not raising people's expectations. We know exactly what this portion on Thursday we expect will be released is going to deal specifically and only with this issue of comy. And in fact, they did recommend a potential charges in this case the Attorney General had denied. Now there are mixed reports from sources I have that that referral for potential prosecution was not even denied by Bar, but that decision had been made prior to Bar's arrival. I've heard that. I don't know it to be true, do you. What I do know is that the recommendation had been floating around in surface with many people, but the final decision was made after Bar was Attorney General. But here it doesn't matter when everybody inside the Justice Department was in agreement that this was not the sort of case you should bring in. Here's one of the reasons why if James Comey stole these documents, lee classified information, and he gets acquitted. It sends a terrible message to the rest of the bureaucracy about the handling of classified information. You bring these cases one to punish the person too, to send a message to others who might be tempted to do the same thing. And this didn't have as sort of circumstances that a jury would likely convict on it, So you don't take that risk. There are many other Melka So we're hearing the exact same thing. Then we're going to have the Michael Horowitz report. This has been delayed because of new circumstances. We now know that Durham spent some sixteen hours finally Christopher Steele, who again the bulk of information the Grassley, Graham and Nunez memos pointed out, and the applications the original application in October twenty sixteen, the three subsequent applications thereafter, three of the four signed by James Comey himself. But the bulk of information was the phony dossier. And to reinforce your reporting, you're the one that discovered. Everybody at the Justice Department and the FBI at the highest levels were warned not to try that information Hillary had paid for the dossier was unverified, and Steele had a political agenda hating Donald Trump. At the top of a FISA application is the word verified. That would mean a premeditated fraud committed on a court for the purposes of getting a backdoor channel into the Trump campaign, the Trump transition and later Trump presidency. And also denying Carter Page. And I don't think this is insignificant his constitutional due process right. That there's a document that doesn't get a lot of focused on that is so potentially powerful and understanding how far off the FBI was from its normal means when they shut down Christopher Steele. They did what's known a human source validation report, what they thought of Christopher Steele, his body of work. And here is what that report, which a lot of people haven't looked at. It's released under FOY a long time ago. It's so powerful. It said that his information was only minimally corroborated, meaning they didn't corroborate most of what he ever told them, too, that they only had a medium offence in the quality of his work. To know that that's where the FBI ended up with Christopher Steele. And yet to go into the court before that and tell the court this is a solid guy. We have every reason, we have no derogatory information about him. Trust us when we say we verified this stuff about carter Page. That's why you got to let us spy on carter Page. It really shows how far from the truth the FBI was in that application. And when James Comey signed his name to that application, he extended that fraud, He extended that misinformation, He extended that inappropriate contact with the court in a way that should never have happened. He holds the ball on that first fison. Okay, and then we've got now you're saying you believe there might be another report that I'm not that acutely aware of that would involve the systemic leaking of classified, top secret information. I think this might go back to your original reporting with me and that involved and that was in March of what year, twenty seventeen. Okay, which would be surveillance, legal unmasking. Leaking of raw intelligence is over the target on that, that's right, And in some cases it might not even be classified information they're leaking. But if they leak something so that they then can turn around and pretend it's evidence that they found independently. It creates that circular reporting we've been talking about. We know that one on with Christopher Steele, Christopher Steele and Simpson leaked information. The FBI then used an article based on that leak, the Yahoo article by Issokov, to support its FISA warrant, when they knew it came from the very source that they that was Christopher Steele. That culture of leaking, in that possible activity of using leaks to further warrants and court filings is something that the Inspector General's looking at, and I'm hearing that he's found enough and he might spin off a singular report just on that culture of leaking. Okay, Now the next aspect of this is that then we have again, so number one is to call me. We know that Thursday, number two is the big Horowitz FISA investigation. Premeditative fraud, commits it on a court. I've got to believe that there will be people that will be charged in that case. Certainly there should be a grand jury put forward. I would expect charges, would you. I'll wait to see. So far, I've seen no evidence of a criminal action, meaning the impanelment of a grand jury. This is getting subpoenas. So, Hey, John, are you saying that they might get away with premeditated fraud committed on a FISA court for the purpose of spying on a presidential campaign transition in presidency? They might get away with that without being charged. No. Here's what I'll say is that right now, at this point early in the Durham case, there's no sign as a reporter that I would be looking for that there's a criminal grand jury going on. We don't hear of a grand jury. We haven't heard subpoenas. But listen, at the beginning of an investigation, the first thing you do is you get all your facts together. That's why they've been in Europe. When they come back from Europe. If they impanel a grand jury, then you can begin to infer they found criminal activity. If we're three months from now still no grand jury, I think as a reporter, my professional assessment would be it doesn't look like they're going criminal on this. It's early. Remember or Durham only got this assignment a couple of months ago. There's a mammoth amount of evidence to review that had never really been looked at in the Rosenstein Sessions Justice Department, and I think we should hold our powder watch what happens. But for the public, what we ought to all be looking for the first grand jury subpoenas. That will be the first and most declarative sign that there could be criminal culpability in the Russia case. All right, now, this is where we now have, all of this time that has been spent abroad by the Department of Justice, by the prosecutor from Massachusetts, smister Durham. And what I'm hearing is at the end of the FAISA report from the Inspector General that things have gone a lot deeper and gotten a lot more, a lot more corruption and a lot more abusive power has been uncovered and will be exposed. And what I'm suggesting is you're suggesting a third report that might involve leaking. I'm suggesting a third report that might involve things way beyond this in terms of the origins of the Russia investigation, the use of foreign intelligence services to spy on Americans, the outsourcing of that which would be illegal by our own intelligence officials, done on purpose for the purpose of impacting a presidential election, and on seating a duly elected president, and that the people at the highest levels in the intelligence community under Barack Obama and Joe Biden are the ones that would be held responsible for that. And that called the Durham Report, the Bar Report, the Bar Durham Report, that that would be the explosive one. Yeah, And I think what's most important about that is, remember, the Justice Department Inspector General can only look at Justice Department employee conduct. You've got NSA, CIA, many other intelligence assets, maybe foreign allies or foreign private intelligence corporations like Orbis and others that were involved. The great thing about the Durham Bar investigation is that it's far more expansive than what the Inspector General Justice can look at. And I would expect that the Bar Durham report will be the final word, the most comprehensive word. It will incorporate what the IG found, what we learned from the great Congressional investigations, and then all the stuff that went on in Europe that now seems to be the most important and new focal point of this intelligence review. When you hear the word political surveillance used by our Attorney general, he's signaling he has found something very troubling that's a very explosive term to be using. Okay, now, listening closely as you have been doing, I've been doing my own little digging here. We all have our own little sources that we get information from. Sure that to me might actually be the lynch pit to all of it. And it actually would fit because it would go back to your original reporting about surveillance, unmasking, leaking raw intelligence on a level that I don't think in March of twenty seventeen either of us thought we'd get to. Yeah, when you look at the smartest people on this the people that have looked at the classified information that you and I can't see, people like Devin Nunez, they have always suggested that there was an intelligence operation, possible that an intelligence operation preceded the FBI opening its formal case on July thirty, twenty sixteen. That's why there's these questions about the professor's missuit and helper and other people who are getting involved with Carter Page and George popadappas long before there was an FBI investigation. Alexander Downer, I think it's that period of time, I would say February to June of twenty sixteen that the Bar review is digging in on because it's gotten no scrutiny up to this point. That could be some of the most explosive and interesting information about where people might have been coloring outside the line. We don't know yet, but there are certainly hints that people were in the intelligence community, private or government or coloring outside the lines. And that's where I think Bill bar is going to finish his investigation in that space of time. So maybe the Durham Bar report at the end that would be perhaps even the most explosive, certainly going to be the most comprehensive and most important, because at the end of the day, you want your intelligence communtee working the right way, not cheating an intervie meeting an American election. Yeah, that would be pretty bad. And I think it all happened, and it's all going to be revealed, all right. John Solomon, investigative reporter, Executive vice president for The Hill, right a final moments. I didn't think this was going to last the full hour, but our friend John Solomon, investigative reporter, executive vice president for The Hill. Okay, so assuming let's go through timelines, last thing here, so we expect maybe Thursday the Komy stuff that has to do with the documents we already know about. Then it's going to be the the Horowitz Spiser report, which we expect to be very damning, and then we might have a separate investigation and report on the leaking, and we might have an even bigger explosive report on the abuse of intelligence spying on Americans, outsourcing intelligence gathering, and spying on Americans buy our allies. That matches everything that I'm hearing on the inside. Now that things can change in these investigations. Right if a criminal inquiry begins, the bar Durham report could be delayed until criminal prosecutions occur. But right now, the sequencing is exactly as you have laid it out, Sean. That's what I'm hearing from Justice Department officials, from FBI officials, and others that I talked to. I think the period of September to December will be a very exposive time of revelation and really launch a discussion about what we want our intelligence community to do and what we don't want them to do in future elections. I suspect one of the big headlines we will get out of this regardless of prosecutions or anything else, is that there will be new rules imposed on the Justice Department, the Intelligence community, the FBI about when they get involved with something that comes from a rival campaign, when they get involved into elections. Those things were clearly missing in the Obama administration. That blindness led us to two and a half years of wasted investigation. Really great opportunity now to make sure this never happens again. All right, John Solomon, thanks so much for being with us. We'll have the latest on all of these developments tonight on Hannity, but we expect that first piece to come out tomorrow. Eight hundred Ninefold one. Shaun is on number our News round Up, Information Overload, Democratic Party, the media, Democrats in general are in a full panic over Joe Biden's meltdown. And of course then you have Elizabeth Warren and Kamala Harris saying that Michael Brown was murdered. No, that's not true either. Quick break right back. We'll continue stay right here for our final news round up and Information Overload in the final hour of the Sean Hannity Show. If you agree with me, go to Joe three three three oh and help me in this fight. I watch what happened when the kids from Parkland marched up to and I met with him, and then they went off to up in the hill as vice president, and they went off the hill to go into those neighborhoods. And you don't know my state, My state was a slave state. My state is a border state. My state is the eighth largest black population in the country. He got the first, ye sort of marical America. Who is our kicking and brave clean I mean, that's a story. You're gonna put y'all back in change, all right? There it is. There is a meltdown, the head of the Iowa Democratic Party stating publicly they're pretty much every Democrat in Iowa and they want a more establishment Democratic candidate and a full panic over Joe Biden's disastrous weekend. Now three o three oh is just the tip of the iceberg. I mean, you're talking about a gaff machine of you know, poor kids are just as bright as white kids. You know, it's the first time ever, I mean that you have an African American that's articulate and bright and clean. Wow, that's storybook man. And then of course we have him mistakenly saying he was vice president meeting the kids after the Parkland shooting. He wasn't vice president in twenty eighteen. We choose truth over facts. Yeah, we got that one. You can't go to a Dungan Donans or a seven eleven unless you have a slight Indian accent. His state is a slave state. We're not like those Northeastern states. No liberal states. No, this state was a slave state. Uh. And it goes on and on and on, and you have to wonder, well, did Joe Biden lose his fastball or did he even really ever have one? But five major gaffs in one weekend has put real fear and panic into the hearts of the Democratic Party. Anyway, glad you with US News round Up Information Overload. Our Ari Fleischer is with US media consultant Political Aid. I don't know how he did it. He was once the press secretary for President George W. Bush. I think the hardest job of anybody in Washington ever to deal with these idiots in the media mob. How are you? How did you handle that without like one day not unloading on them. I mean, I mean you must have the patience of Joe. But I couldn't do it. I could not do that job. Well, you know, Sean reporters love Republicans and so it was an easy job. Yeah, balls at me all day long. I would return them. Yeah bush light and people died. I know, here we go, Um, there we go. You know, it is funny. I know that you even you have said, you know, maybe Donald Trump shouldn't fight back as often as he should. I don't think people look at the other side of the equation though. Um, you know, just look at like yesterday or in the last week, he has a plan to exterminate Latinos. That was said by a host on NBC or you know on crazy Liberal Morning Joe that the administration is openly trying to keep America a majority white country or Julian Castro. They're clearly trying to establish a wider nation. And you look at manufactured crisis, manufactured crisis, stormy stormy racist, racist, Russia, Russia, impeachment, impeachment, and you just see this this rage, psychosis, hatred that is every second, minute, hour of the day. It's never been this bad. And yeah, Trump fights back, but nobody talks aboutter how often he gets it. Look, I wrestle with this a latch on because I think it's the biggest criticism I've heard about Republican style that Trump, thank goodness, fights back and there's merits to that, but there's not merit to it every day. And here's what I'm getting at. Nobody in politics will ever make the loon he's on the left go away. Trump won't, Bush won't. Trump successors won't. Nobody will. They'll be out there saying these ridiculous things like Biden said about put y'all back in chains. It doesn't matter, well you are, they'll say it. Issue to me with the president, though, is does he sometimes fight back well and when the day? Or does he sometimes fight back so hard by pulverizing his opponent that, particularly for suburban college had women and people in suburbs. Republicans are losing those people. Donald Trump is losing those people, gay men. An election without those people. So it's a question of the Grecian I wanted to fight back, and I think without his personality, and never have a president who takes on China the way he's doing it, No smooth talking politician ever do it. So there are things about his person but didn't America that also make them effective, they're also things that can go too far, and it ought to be said. Listen, I think the people that have gone the furthest over the edge, it's a combination there. They literally tied at the hip, which would be the media mob that just rages, you know, just every single day. We've had two and a half years of lies, propaganda, conspiracy theories, all proven false. They still can't let it go and then they just move on to the next talking point that happens to be coordinated with the Democratic Party. But I think the American people knew full well who they were electing. They were electing an iconic, clastic outsider and a disruptor that was going to take on the whole sore swamp culture of Washington, and he was going to break a lot of dishes. And I think the guy that has kept every promise, tax cuts, cutting and ending burdensome bureaucracy, originalist ustices, fighting for the wall, making us energy independent, better trade deals, you know, go down the list. This guy fought for every one of the promises he made, which I can't you know, a lot of most politicians don't do that. They don't fight that hard. And I think people now are grown accustomed to his style. Agree with everything you just said. But here's what you even better. He does everything you just said without having said about four congressmen, go back to the country where you came from and improve those countries before you come and criticize me without Well, we're gonna get we gotta get that comment right. He says, all right, well, you can go back to the country came from, fix it and then and then come back and then come back and show us how. That's what I just said. Okay, it would been better if he never said go back to the countries where you dot dot. It would just would have been better, because what happens when you talk like that, you send a signal to other people who are immigrants or first generation Americans? Am I supposed to go back if I disagree with the president? Is he targeting me? It's not just about those four conressmiths. The signals you send to others in society. Well, hang on, aren't we dealing with a bigger issue? Though? When you talk there is a foundation to this, a virulent anti semitism. Harsh cut. Well, it seemed like sympathetic comments to radical groups that want to destroy Us and Israel again this context and texture to everything. And the President has been very clear many many other times that he wants the wall to stop the ninety percent of heroin and the cartels and you know, the MS thirteen types from getting in, but he wants a big door so that immigrants can come in. And he said that, and how many times all agree with, all agree with. My point is, if you're coaching a baseball team and your team hit a bunch of home runs and is doing really good things well, but they made three errors. You work on those errors during the week. You drill so you don't make the same errors again. You keep hitting your homers, but you got to stop making the I'll concede the point. Let me concede your point. I would say that every one of us can learn and do better, but I don't think it's realistic. In Trump's case, this in to this extent that he's gonna fight all day for what he promised the American people, and he's gonna get hammered the way he gets hammered. Look, I thought George W. Bush got the crappiet out of him every single day. And George W. Bush, much to my chagrin didn't fight back harder. I know him to be a nice, good decent man. Mitt Romney is a nice, good decent man. And they still said he was a racist and a misogynist and a horrible person, and a false caricature was painted against him. They did the same thing to a guy they said they liked, John McCain. John McCain ran for president. John McCain got the crap kicked out of him by the media, and then when he became a little anti Republican again, he was loved by the people that called him racist and everything in between. So this this is a very predictable pattern that Democrats use. Used to be every two and four years. Now it seems like it's every day. Yeah, And I don't disagree with anything you said. There Again, I'm with you on all of that, and we're probably a lot closer than soundly Sean. I really do think the difference comes down to finesse hit your homers, be tough, but don't do anything that goes too far. And I submit to you for every time, for every five homers he hits, one time he goes too far. That's it. I actually I don't think that's bad advice at all. I really don't. I think. I think what he's doing. And what frustrates me about Republicans is that, I'll give you a quick example. How many votes did we have to repeal and replace Obamacare when they knew that Obama was never going to go along with it and they'd never pass it. What sixty sixty five seventy votes? And the Senate in twenty fifteen they pass a complete, clean repeal bill. Then when it matters, seven of those Republicans, when they had the chance to do it and Donald Trump would assigned it, seven of those Republicans backed off. They didn't really mean it. And what I see is in the Republican Party, I see a lot of weakness. I don't see the passion to fulfill promises and advance the country and get the job done. And I see the President out there often alone doing the heavy lift of really trying to implement the conservative policies that Mitt Romney said he stood for. But he didn't win. And it's frustrating to see the internal fight from people like him. And he can go on to other issues as well, moving the embassy to Jerusalem. He's done a lot of things that we've all dreamed about that politicians talk about and never do. And that's one of the reasons I've warned to President Trump. It's one of the reasons I recognize it. Maybe rhetorically he can go too far, but look at his policies. Look how effective they've been, Look how successful they are, and look how tough he has been where we need to be tough. And I mier that and I like that. So I think Trump is winning people over. But at the same time, I look at elections as saying, you got to win over a majority. You can't come close. You can't get forty seven or forty eight percent. Here you get forty nine or fifty percent or fifty one percent. And it's right on these margins that you can lose a close election. And I want him to win. So I'm not going to be afraid to criticize him when I think he's done something that hurts himself and sends a wrong signal. And I do recognize he is up against really a democratic media complex, the degree of which the press goes to minimize and soften what the Democrats do wrong, and that to pounce on the president is fierce it's one of the reasons that he calls him a fake news. He's tired of them. I don't blame him for that, But if I was on the inside giving him advice, I would try to point out, and it's in effect if nobody can give him advice, I think. But I would try to say, you gotta just be wise in your criticisms, so you don't have to pulverize your opponents. You need to be your opponents. I'd say it a different way. I think you're right, and a lot of your I think I don't even think it's really criticism. I just think it's stylistic differences. And I would say, we don't need to hear every thought that crosses his head. And I think that's probably the true of everybody. Will take a break more with Ari Fleischer, former press secretary for President George W. Bush, now owning his own consultancy company and doing very very well. Quick break right back, and we'll continue right as we continue. Ari Fleischer is with US media consultant political aide. He was also a White House Press secretary. I look at this crop of twenty twenty Democratic hopefuls, and I see the most radical, the most extreme, those that have bought into some version of the New Green Deal, which would to me be a disaster for the country. And I don't see anybody. I think the hopes had always been on Joe Biden, but we see Gaff after Gaff. I think there is a very public reevaluation of whether or not Biden's up to this task. I don't think he is personally David Axel or out hinted he doesn't think so either. What are your thoughts on it? I love campaigns, and this is one reason why, because people get to see the American people get to see for themselves what their choices are, and the presidential level, you really can't hide. People see your flaws and your strengths. And we're seeing a lot of flaws on the Democratic side, and their flaws begin with their ideas for America. They are a party that has increasingly moved into an overwhelmingly socialistic redistribute give everything out for free direction and it's the ruination of America if you go too far down that Roadus are all pushing my goodness, they said at the debates, and raise their hands as somebody who enters America illegally. This morning should get government provided, taxpayer paid for health insurance this afternoon. How bad would that be for America? So we're seeing their ideas on display, abolished private insurance. It's the whole socialistic agenda that they've all fallen for, and they're advocating these debates are the best thing to ever happen to Republicans. Who do you think it? Ultimately twins that who do you think is the front runner now? And if you had to make a prediction who, Well, I do think Biden will collapse, and then I think it's likely going to be either Sanders, Warren or foot Edge. I don't rule him out. Somebody's got to fill the the Biden void, which I think is inevitable, and I don't think anybody can answer that yet because too many future events will define it. Those are going to be their debates. But I do know is going back through history. You know, Republicans sixteen candidates run in twenty fifteen sixteen. Five of them dropped out in twenty fifteen, the year before the election, So we're gonna have a number of Democrats drop out here in twenty nineteen, and then as the field whittles, that's where Biden becomes most vulnerable. I agree, all right, Ari Fleischer, as always your insight. Thanks for being with us, eight hundred and nine for one Seawan Tolfree telephone number, we have Mark Ferman. At the bottom of the hour, we'll dig a little deeper into this Epstein, the irregularities as the Attorney General has said, and all that's gone on here and what the FBI is up to. All right, twenty five now to the top of the hour. We've been monitoring the situation out of Philly and hoping that the initial reports were not true. It turns out, in fact, they are at least four Philly police officers shot. We now have a massive police presence in and around the Temple University section of Philadelphia. It's the section you know, in the Nicetown section of Philly. According to officials, a massive police response has now descended in the area of North Philly. At least one of the suspects is in custody. Numerous reports we don't want to rush the reporting on this as ever, but numerous reports that one of the gunmen may in fact be hold up inside of a nearby building, and the police are acting as if that in fact is the case. This all happening in the last half hour. The audio that has been obtained I heard in one of the reports came in from a panicked officer and officer calls for everything you've got swat long gun. A law enforcement officer can be heard saying on the audio officers shot, officer shot. Skyforce ten was over the scene as an unidentified gunman firing well with some have reported as hundreds of shots, others firing, and local news coverage there in Philly saying dozens of shots being fired nearly thirty minutes into this whole thing, and as the police officers then descended on the corner of fifteenth and Butler Streets in downtown Philly, you can see the officers and crouched positions behind cars, blocked off surrounding streets. And at this point we just don't know if it's contained yet, but we do know that at least four police officers we can report have in fact been shot. One report, again I don't want to get out ahead of this, is that one officer was shot in the head. You hope, I hope and pray that God that's not true. Um, but that was the report from one of the news services that is out there. A lockdown is also in effect a Temple University's Health Sciences Center campus, and the school put out an alert for their students to take shelter in the place. The story is just developing as we speak. Uh, Linda, what are you hearing on your and you're talking about here? I can't hear. Yeah, sorry about that. So you know, I'm actually from Philly, as most people know, you know this area. We want to describe the area because this is some of this area is not a nice part of Philly, and then in other parts that has been in the Nicetown is not a nice area. Tioga, it's a tough name bhood. There's a lot of drugs, a lot of poverty. You know, people, how far away did you grow up from there? About twenty minutes, So it's it's this is not a good neighborhood. And I actually did my NBA at Temple University and did my residency about two blocks from here, so it's it's just not a really good neighborhood. And I'm assuming you know, there's usually a large police presence in the area to begin with, because they know there's a lot of narcotic activity there. But the fact that you know this many cops have been taken down and they still don't have all of the shooters in place. You know, it's still an ongoing situation, you know, but we're keeping our eyes and ears to the ground. I know, we have Jonathan Gillham on the line who also as a police officer and can speak to this a little bit. And I'm going to keep doing something. Got one reporter a friend of mine that lives in Philly literally saying that people are reported hearing over a hundred shots being fired in that area. Jonathan Gillham, I'm looking at the images now. I mean, it looks like the entire Philly police forces now descended on this area. But we can confirm, in fact, four Philly police officers have been shot, and we do believe at this moment there's still one person one of the shooters. Second, it's actually five officers. It's now five police officers. Police officers. Yeah. Um, And you want to and you have to wonder if the top of your head, Jonathan Gillim, if in fact this is an ambush, it could be. You know a lot of these neighborhoods where these drug dealers live and then a drug chaff king is pretty heavy. Uh, they have believe it or not, These bad guys have tactical plans in place, and they have a lot of people they call on. And I'm not you know, we're still not exactly sure what it is, but just going off of the neighborhood the way it's been described that the crime rate there and the type of crimes that are there, I think we can rule out terrorism as probably the fact of what's going on. This is probably a domestic issue or that had to do with drugs or something that blew up or let me just ad we're now being told officially this is an ongoing incident. It is not under controlled. The moment of five officers now issued and it's ongoing. Witness heard so many gunshots, others describing it well over a hundred shots heard fired. Yeah, in this type of situation, what's happening is to be hitting this. This is not typically something that law enforcement is involved with. Is this type of an overwhelming response from a bad person or bad people, So they're going to be hitting this in a fluid situation. I'm sure tactical units are there and they're going to have to start using what's called a blocking force, which they call in the military, law enforcement, they may call it different things, where they're going to try to coordinate the area off where this is happening so that they can isolate that to that area. And that's the first thing that they probably want to do is make sure that whoever these people are don't get out of that area so that they can contain the firefight to that area. And so I would imagine that's happening simultaneously with the tacticle units getting ready to engage. If they're not engage, we're getting a little more information the shooting began if the police responded to narcotics activity as we were talking about, Stay right there, Jonathan Gillham, former Lieutenant commander of the MYP counter Terrorism Unit, Bill McGrory. That gives us a little piece of the puzzle. But whenever you hear that number of police officers shot, it sounds like either the type of raid that we're talking about, or an ambush of some kind, or the type of activity if it was a narcotics bust. It seems to have gone arrive very quickly. Bill McGrory, Yeah, Yeah, Joan you know what, you know what jumps to my head. Sometimes they set up offices in an ambush. You know, they'll call in a drug sale man with a gun. They wait for the cops to show up, and next thing you know, they're being an ambush. And as Jonathan said, you know they're trying to set up and coordinate right now and try to locate those guys. And it's a it's a it's a shame because this is the second incident with the cops in the last foot weekend. It's it's it's unbelievable. Oh, you also saw what happened in Philly. I went through a great detail all the rhetoric that has been used against ice officers. We had the San Antonio late at night, they were shooting into one of the ice offices down there. We've had a number of these incidents. We had the case in Washington, DC where you had these devices that were sent into the Washington office in Tacoma. That guy who ended up being shot, he was hurling these throwing these devices, throwing him into a Washington State immigration detention center. We had another incident in May of twenty eighteen. And the rhetoric has been so far over the top. You know, we have Congressman Gatierras calling ICE agents Gestapo. We have liberal websites calling Ice the American Gestapo. We're calling detention centers that have beds and cots and blankets and medical care and soccer fields and wreck facilities and TVs and bones and baby formula, doctors and diapers, or comparing them to Auschwitz and concentration camps. The rhetoric against police have gotten so far out of control. I don't know if it's what's involved here. It sounds like this is a bust that has gone very very badly or an ambush. We don't know. Yes, and people and because of the left rhetoric, and I hate to put politics into it, but we have to call it what it is. Right, you look at the presidential debate. What was said on the presidential debate, tops are bad and we want to release criminals. So you have this sentiment that you could do whatever you want the tops. Don't worry about it. They're the enemy, They're the bad guys. Throw water on them, ambush them, shoot them, whatever it is. And this is the sentiment that's going on in the United States. Yeah, let me go to we have some of the audio now that has been picked up, and I want to play this for our audience here if you're just joining us. We have now five police officers confirmed shot and it was apparent narcotics raid that went badly. Here is some of the audio on the radio police radio scanners in Philly. I heard so many gun shots that it was I got scared and I lifted my window of to see what was going on, and I left out of the house because I was scared. Did you how many gunshots did you hear? Over a hundred? Over one hundred gunshots? Did you see people running? They were here, they were scurrying, they were afraid. Over there where they are they have them held up is a play lot where children play. Terrible. How do you feel about this happening here? For officers? You know here? You're scared. I'm scared all right. Now. What we know at this time that the Temple University Health Sciences Center campus, it's in and around this area. Fox twenty nine, Philly is in lockdown. The shooting began after police responding to a narcotics activity that was going on. Probably a lot of a lot of money, a lot of drugs involved. Here as you just heard some of the witnesses saying over a hundred shots have been fired. We now can confirm five police officers shot in the area around this part of Temple University. It's called Nicetown, the section of Philly, this part of the town was where this all went down. We have a massive police presence and what we're told is this is active and ongoing. In other words, I believe one person has been taken into custody and they suspect that there is there are others involved that are hunkered down inside at least one of the buildings surrounding the area, but we don't have any confirmation. Police are acting as though that is in fact the case. As of right now, we have two of the officers were taking a Temple University. One of the officers went to Einstein, which are the two local hospitals there. They're both great hospitals, and two of the other officers have been transported, but it's not being reported where they are. Mayor Jim Kenny and the Police Commissioner Richard Ross are also both heading to Temple University. The Philly helicopter over the scene could be seen taking one in into custody, but we're not sure what that person's role was in the incident. And it happened on the thirty seven hundred block of North fifteenth Street, So it looks like the police captain is on the sign kind brew he's there, and all of the police officers are now sheltering and telling people to shelter in place, as well as what you mentioned about the Health and Science senator being in lockdown as well. One witness called it like a scene you would see in ward Jonathan Gillham. If it's a narcotics rate of some kind, probably high dollars. If you're talking about the type of weaponry and the type of criminal activity that would bring it to this level, right, it could be probably most likely. So, And I'll tell you one thing that people need to understand about this that are in around that area is that this type of a situation, once they get these guys, of course they probably know who they are because that's who they were targeting. Once they have them locked down, it's different than a terrorism type of incident where they must keep pushing forward because they know people are going to be killed. In this situation, if there's no hostages, the police can stand back lock the area down, and that's where they negotiators still work because now they can just wait the guys out and not take any chances on losing life. And I do want to say one thing, you know, the people that were the witnesses that were talking there a minute ago, if you ever find yourself in a shootout, which most people never will, if you're outside and you can find an invention in the ground that's eighteen inches are deeper, your survivability rate goes up fifty percent because of the way bullets travel. And people should always remember that if they ever hear bullets going off and you're outside, if you can get away, fleet, but if you're caught in it, try to find some invention in the ground to get down into it. The Temple University Health and Science Center campus is on lockdown. That is the exact area with US took place. Some witnesses saying over a hundred shots have been fired. Police aren't telling everybody that this is an active and ongoing situation, and basically what looks like the entire Philadelphia Police force is on the scene now. Five police officers confirmed shot like a scene you would see in a war one witness saying and the shooting beginning after police responding to narcotics activity not known well in an area that it happens to be known for a lot of drugs and violence and crime, unfortunately, one of the cities that we need to get cleaned up in this country that we talk so often about. But the situation, again is active and ongoing. I'm looking at the scene right now and I can tell you that there are at least what looked like a hundred police cars surrounding this one particular area. Now we're also being told is that people are being told not to leave their homes, that there is an active firefight actually ongoing that just crossed the wires as we speak, and so it's an active shooting situation. If you're in and around this part of Philly, please take the proper precautions and shelter and let the police do their job. This is what they are trained to do, and their presence is heavy. You could see the way they're cordoned off. Let me just paint a picture here for you that the way that they're cordoned off is you can see that they're hiding specifically behind certain areas and there's certain blocks, so that would probably mean that they are aware of where the likely well shooter is there. Bertie Carrick is with us former MYPDA Commissioner commission I know you've lived through a lot of bad times. Five cop shot, pretty scary, it's active, it's ongoing, more shots being heard even as we speak. According to live reports that are coming in, over a hundred shots fired. A narcotics bust apparently gone bad. What can you tell us, well, I think what they're going to have to do and what they're doing now you'll see him stabilize in a certain area. They want to identify where the shooter is, where the gunshots are coming from, take care of the injured, and then get anybody else out of the way. You know, when you have one of these things shown, the key thing is take care of everybody as it stands right now. But then you know you're going to probably try to wait this guy out unless you can make him pop his head out and take him out in the process. That's probably going to be unlikely. So we might be in a standoff situation for quite a period of time. Walk us through what normal procedures would be. At least when you were running the NYPDA. From your perspective as commissioner, you know what in this time, in the aftermath of nine to eleven, even the everyday average patrolman are trained for active shooter scenarios where they're going to go, and they're going to go first. You know. Historically you would wait for a squat team where a special operations unit. That's no longer the case, which is why you see a bunch of these, you know, the everyday sector car patrol and so to speak up front, now you'll have special operations come in, they'll put up drones, they'll put up the you know, they'll start collecting camera information from the surrounding area and they'll identify where this person is or people depending on how many um and then you work on getting to them. But the first and foremost is get the injured cops out of there. Anybody else that's in the way, get them out of there as well. We're seeing images now of emergency response teams literally and ambulances racing out of the area. Assumingly they are taking them to the hospital as we speak. Stay right there, Commissioner Karrig. We have more audio from some of the witnesses. Let's listen to what they say they heard, and so'll make them one on one in priorities. How far Alice, you can hear commission, you can hear the gunshots in the background. There reports of over a hundred shots fired. So this was this sounds like a shootout in the middle of this apparent narcotics investigation raid. Whatever was going on? Do you think is there any chance this was an ambush? I don't know if it was an ambush, but you know, the normal narcotics raid, you may have a guy, you know, fire at the cops as they're trying to do an entry or something like that. Somebody doing a hundred rounds Sean. This is somebody that was sitting and waiting. This is somebody that had, you know, a stockpile of MMO and weapons. Perhaps you know, somebody that may have anticipated the cops coming, uh, you know, to their door. Um, that's not the norm in a drug you know, bust scenario, so to speak. So it's going to be interesting to play out what happened later. Um, you know, but for now, get those injured cops out here. What we know though, get shot. We know the shooting began after police responded to narcotics activity. Police are confirming that this situation remains active and ongoing, which means that one of the shooters at least is at large. If somebody holds up inside a building and maybe even that building has food, water, or supplies of some kind, no telling how long the standoff like that could go on. Fortu and Sean, let me jump in from one second, the shots we're being fired from inside of a house on that street, So they were firing from a window at the cops right as the cops were pulling up. So Commission I asked you again, you know they that would mean how long does this go on for? Well, listen, it's going to go on until they can get the person out of there. What the primary thing right now is going to make sure nobody else, nobody else gets hurt on the outside. So they need to secure it down the area. They need to evacuate the houses next to that. They need to create a secure zone to make sure the guy doesn't or people don't escape, can't get out of the air and disappear into the into the night. So that's what they're going to be working on. But if it's coming out of a house. This is this could be a group show you know, they were doing a narcotics arrest. This could be a group that anticipate, you know, in the drug rivalry arena, in the cartels, you know they're always uh stocked up with ammunition and guns, anticipating a rip, anticipating you know, another drug. Let me, let me add a couple of other things that are just coming through. Well, this didn't take long, Kamala Harris suggesting her twenty twenty gun control policies would have stopped the shooting that took place in Philly today. I mean, really, it's still ongoing. Can somebody inform the presidential candidate this is still ongoing. What we're also hearing is we get a little bit more details. A suspect, again narcotics related in a home, shooting in the upper floors. Two cops with two suspects or restrained and trapped in the upper floors. So this might even be worse than initially thought. Maybe the main reason why the police are telling us the situation is active and ongoing. Three suspects restrained. Also appears to be shooting at cops who are outside the home from inside the home. So there's things going on inside and outside, and we don't have any clue at this moment what's going on inside the area where and the home in particular that is now cordoned off by the police. This could be. This could be lasting quite a while, commission, It could be lasting quite a while, and the guys inside are going to be extremely important with regard to intel feeding the people outside what's in there. You know, what's in the house where the adversary is worth. Special agents from the atfforts are on the scene. If it is a police hostage situation, is that a possibility? Commission, it could be. You know, look, everything is speculation at this point. But when you have two officers in the house with other suspects and they can't get out, that's a major problem. So you don't have atf You're gonna have the FBI show up. It's gonna be a major problem, and who knows how long it's gonna go. Yeah, unbelievable if you're just joining us. By the way, witnesses hearing over one hundred gunshots. We have some of them that we just played on tape moments ago. It's in and around the Temple University Science center, which is on lockdown. It's active and ongoing, and reports that at least one of the shooters is inside and it's going on as we speak. This all in response to police responding to a narcotics traffic, a narcotics deal that was going on in particular at the time, in this particular home. A number of suspects would now being told are involved in all of this. Some are in custody, but some are at large, and several officers injured, active and ongoing. Our thoughts and prayers are with the City of Philly, these families, these policemen, and these brave nurses and doctors. May they do their best work. We'll have more tonight on Hannity Quick Break, and thank you Commissioner, Thank you, Jonathan Gillam, Thank you, mister McGarty.