All right, gladiate with us. Tough week. Yes, this is good Friday eight hundred nine for one Sean Told free telephone number. You want to be a part of this extravaganza. This is peak week, as we anticipated this into sometime next week. And then as I think it was doctor Burke's just saying that we believe we're at the top. You begin the steady decline, and then it becomes somewhat precipitous, which we need. What is more than frustrating to me in a hundred different ways, is you know you're watching these congressmen and women. We all want the country open. Every American expects that you're going to go into your grocery store whatever you want, and you're gonna be able to get whatever you want whenever you want, even during this national emergency and pandemic. If you need to go to the pharmacy, you want to be able to pick up gloves and purell and medicines and whatever else you might need. Now, the supply chains for grocery stores they're all up and running. The supply chains for drug stores are up and running. The supplies that we have needed. Look, grocery stores are open seven elevens are open. Everything that you would want and need is on the shelves, with the occasional lapses of missing toilet paper and paper towels, which people apparently want to hoard. And anybody that talks about, Okay, now we've got to open up the economy, and there's a way, And it's just it's not. It's not a simple answer. Nobody's claiming it is. But there are large segments of the economy that are up in running, or else you would have nothing in your store, you'd have nothing in your pharmacy. We all want the store shelves stocked and full. We all want the pharmacy's shelves stock and and we need to be able to pick up our prescription drugs. So if you talk about safely opening up parts of the country, you're going to hear from the likes of Nancy Pelosi. Now, Congress is not in session right now, Aintcy Pelosi, I assume is you know, has taken her private jet and flown back to San Francisco, and she is, you know, maybe even listening to this program and in the comfort of her gated community, multimillion dollar mansion, and now she and all she does is issue edicts and issue proclamations and help start new investigations, which now is forthcoming. They're investigating the coronavirus response. Literally, they can't stop. It's it is obsessive, it is compulsive, it is beyond psychotic. It's every second, minute, hour of every day, and it's all about Trump. Now, Pelosi's lecturing the President that he will only make things worse if he reopens the country too quickly amid coronavirus. M Okay, Now, let's let's start with this assumption that the doctors are right that there always is going to be a rebound, not if when there's gonna be a rebound, they're gonna be hot spots that show up here and there. All right, So, now that we've been able to use the travel band that no Democrats supported, no medium mob person supported, so as far as I'm concerned, you know, they were the ones calling it rac as, xenophobic, hysterical, and a bunch of fear mongering Donald Trump. It is incalculable how much worse this would be for the entire country had the President did not implement the first travel band, the quarantine in the middle of him being impeachd did all of this subsequent travel bands. He did this ten days after the first known case of corona virus in the United States. Stone case was January twenty first. January thirty first, he implemented the travel band. Those that say the president didn't didn't take this seriously, well, a travel band's pretty serious. Quarantining is pretty serious. They were in the middle of impeachment. The likes of Andrew Cuomo was telling everybody as late as March second, Oh, we're New Yorkers. If you don't mind it, I'm going to be a New Yorker. And as a New Yorker, you know, nobody needs ten bullets to kill a deer. Um All talk, no action. The guy that just dismissed his own task force, that said this is predictable, this is a foreseeable, real threat. We have a responsibility to act. He didn't buy one. Remember they predicted they need sixteen fifteen thousand, and seven hundred eighty three ventilators. He bought none. Would have been zero point four percent of his state budget, but he wasted seven hundred and fifty million dollars on a solar factory and up upstate New York that got mothballed, another six hundred million dollars on a computer chip factory that went bust, another ninety million state dollars on a light bulb company in California. But he couldn't afford the ventilators. Just I need thirty thousand ventilators. Well, it turns out thanks to the hospitals Trump built in New York. By the way, the Comfort the Navy Hospital ship has very few patients on it. Same with the Jabbt Center Governor Innsley and Washington. They didn't put one patient in the Core Energy and the corp of Engineers hospital that they built. And now he's sending everything back thanks to credit to him. They actually did a pretty good job out in Washington and Oregon and even California, not in New York. But all the hospitals were built by Trump. The Navy Hospital, the largest hospital in the world, other hospitals, all the testing, all the equipment, all the gloves, all the ventilators, everything was sent. We're not needing anywhere near what we thought we'd need. Now, those same people that were impeaching the president not being involved in the coronavirus issue, not smart enough to support the travel ban. Now they want to tell the President Wenny Cannon cannot open the economy. Now, it's got to be done, and it's got to be done safely. There are some very tricky aspects of the economy that are going to be difficult to open, but there's ways to do it. To me, the answer is it's sort of many folds here. We first have to recognize a simple truth. And the simple truth is one life is not going to return to what we had as normal before this virus anytime soon. What does that mean, Hannity, It means that, Okay, in geographic parts of the country where you don't have a high density of people, it's going to be much easier to open up the economy. Now again, the economy is open. Truckers are driving, manufacturers are making medical equipment, and they're pumping out medicines for people. So part of the economy is going. The truck drivers are getting the items. Their farmers are farming dairy farmers are milking and pouring milkdown the sewer. Unfortunately, and but all of these things are happening. Your store shelves are filled because Americans are working now to say to the rest of America. You can't open up and work is ridiculous. Now, if we start with the understanding that there's going to be a new normal, Shaking hands, for example, is probably a thing of the past, at least for the near future. Probably would be better forever. Elbowing is the new thing. Using your purell is probably the new thing in certain parts of the country. Wearing masks and gloves, that is going to be a part of everyday life, especially for a while. That will be a new normal. If you will then, of course. But but there's no reason to say that we can't open up a large portion geographically of the country. We can. Now. It becomes a lot more difficult when you have a highest density of people, highest concentration of people in the smallest geographical area. Let's stay with New York City. In New York City, it's going to be more complicated. Now if you coupled together the essential employee model you can with every big building in New York and you couple that with okay, people that you're still going to have people tell a working they're gonna work from home. Those employees that ken and there's ways, by the way to monitor whether they're doing a good job. It's not that hard to figure out. If somebody's working at home or watching you know, Days of Our Lives, a soap opera or something, then those essential employees. The answer is going to come down to testing. And now that Abbot created this five minute test, I mean it's it's frankly, it's a marvel eighteen thousand what they call the Abbot COVID testing machine. There's now eighteen thousand, but there are other machines that are in other doctor's offices where they can easily be converted to do this. Now, the problem is, as much as they are producing, they're getting incredible amounts of these tests out and available. They expect, by the way, there's about fifty thousand tests a day. They expect to produce about two million tests a month. They run about you know, they're now upping the anti. But if it was me and I wanted to open a city like New York practicing social distancing by bringing fewer people into the office, by those people in the office a little more distant because it's less concentrated because some people are working from home. Those that go in can wear masks and respirators and gloves and whatever else they need. Social distancing will be a part of it. But then you need the testing. And if we were able to mass produce, implement the Defense Production Act and get twenty more companies to produce the Abbot machine it's about the size of a toaster, and get tests into every single building in a highly a densely populated area like New York City, and every building can then bring in waves of people that can then get their tests. Now you've got to do it in a way where there's medical privacy. Nobody's civil rights and liberties are violated. You're not sharing the information with the government. But if somebody wants to work in the building, their essential employee, they can go. They can go get a special time. You roll out test times for everybody. The companies will pay for the tests. You test people one by one, you know, and then everybody in the building will have been tested negative for COVID nineteen. It's that simple, and you do it slowly. Now it becomes a bigger challenge. How do we test everybody that's about to get on an airplane. That's gonna be tough. Now, it's going to be a specially hard all right, How do you get the entertainment business up and running concerts and sporting events. That's going to be hard too. How do you get people to open restaurants? Again, that's a complication. I don't have all the answers for, but I think a lot of it is going to be rooted in. You know, Let's say you privately get a test and you don't even have a name associated with it. They give you a little yellow sticker, put it on the back of your license. Yeah, I'm negative, I can go into the restaurant. That's the only idea I can think of as of now now is that are there going to be people that will counterfeit these things? Of course, no matter what you do, there's going to be those that don't care. But the reason, as doctor Oz was saying yesterday, they got the hammer and dance model in Germany, but the reason that their mortality rate has been lower is because of widespread testing. Abbott and their great innovation has now made it possible that we get results in five minutes. Now, if we could produce the toaster like machines and get the medical tests out there and mass produce them and use the Defense Production Act and give it to every big city in small town that wants won then we'll be able to test and we'll be able to get up and running, because if we don't get this economy going, we're not going to recover. This is all about the economy. It's all about Americans getting up and able to work, you know. On the other side of it, Pelosi's warning of an economic depression. At the same time, she's simultaneously blocking a package for small businesses because they want to get money for illegal immigrants, they want to change the voting laws in the country. I mean, it's sick how they act. And she's urging the president to shut the economy down indefinitely. Why so then she could say this is the Trump economy and use it in two hundred and seven days when the American people go to the polls. Well, if she's worried about having a depression, she ought to be working with the President to get all the testing machines and all the hands of all the people that'll need them. Now, we're going to talk about the economy. What art Laugher Later in the program, Doctor Oz will be taking your medical questions for the full hour and our second hour of the program today and we'll get some calls in in the course of the program. We have our facts without fierce segment as well. But the answer is getting the economy up and running. You can't and do it in a way that if there is a rebound, it will be identified immediately and it contained, because if you let it run wild out of control and we try to shut the country down again, we'll never recover. We're not designed. We are a consumption economy. We love our store shelves filled, we love our pharmacies full. Well, that's happening because that aspect of our economy is open. Now, let's open up the rest of the economy. First geographically, then through testing. You can open up every big city in the country. But you need the test machines, you need the five minute testing. There's your answer. I mean, they're in the middle of impeachment. The president is instituting travel bands and quarantines and more travel bands and taking it seriously. They say nothing now, like, you can't open up the country immediately. Well, where do you think we're going to get our food from and our medicines from, And what about all those Americans that need to go back to work? And what really is infuriating about what Pelosi's doing. She's not working. American truckers are working, manufacturers are working, farmers are working. There are many other people that want to work that are being forced into shut down and work and be willing to put on masks and gloves and even get the testing and you know. So on the other hand, she's warning of an economic depression. Oh, that's great, but they are busy unveiling a commission to review the coronavirus US response. That's what the Democrats are doing. There's no data to prove that small businesses need more emergency funds. No, the reason she's not voting for any small business money is because that's not where the democra crats want the money to go. They wanted to go. They want to insist on changes in election laws and immigration laws and that illegal immigrants get money out of any new package that passes on. Look, it's not. It is the surest, safest way, keyword safest to open up the economy. It is now April the tenth, We are twenty days away from May first. Geographically, you're going to see an opening of large portions of the country. There's going to be a new normal gloves, masks testing. But then you can open up the big city safely. But you've got to start manufacturing millions of these abbot testing machines about the size of a toaster that will take the Defense Production Act. And the sooner we get Americans back up and running, the better it's going to be for everyone and the economy. You can't stay in a state of shutdown forever, and you got to prevent the predictable rebound. I think it's possible to put in a regime that would make it very hard either to willfully circumvent FISA or to do so sloppily without due regard for the rights of the American person involved, and also to make it very clear that any misconduct will be discovered and discovered fairly promptly. So I do think we can put in safeguards that will enable us to go forward with this important tool. I think it's very sad, and the people who abused FISA have a lot to answer for because this was an important tool to protect the American people. They abused it. They undercut public confidence in FISA. But also the FBI is an institution and we have to rebuild that. That's the Attorney General Bill Bard a great interview over two nights with Laura Ingram on the Fox News Channel and on a variety of topics. We have not been spending the time that we will be spending once this is all taken care of and hopefully everybody's safely getting back to work. But he says, the people that abused FISA have a lot to answer for because that important tool to protect the American people was abused. They abused it, they undercut public confidence in BAISA. They also but also the FBI is in an institution. We have to rebuild that all the things we were telling you, and it goes on from there, and he further goes on to say it's his opinion that to enable us to go forward with that tool, we have to have the safeguards in place. He thinks that the Durham Report maybe probably will be a by product only of his activity, but his primary focus isn't to prepare a report. He is looking to bring justice to people who are engaged and abuses if he can show that there were criminal violations, and that is the focus. That's where the focus is on. And you know, as being a lawyer, you yourself building these cases, is especially the sprawling case you know we have between us that went on for two to three years. It takes time. It takes some time to build the case. So he's diligently pursuing that case. My own view is the evidence shows and we're not dealing with just mistakes and sloppiness. There's something far more troubling here, and we're going to get to the bottom of it. And I think what happened to President Trump was one of the greatest travesties in American history, and without any basis, they started this investigation of his campaign. And even more concerning actually is what happened after the campaign, a whole pattern of events while he was president to sabotage the presidency. Oh, it sounds like premeditated fraud on a fives court. It's amazing to watch the mob in the media. You know, we've put a timeline up on Hannity dot Com of what we were saying when about the virus. Now, there was certain like, for example, we played for you some comments of Anthony Fauci where he says Americans have nothing to worry about about coronavirus. Now, part of it was based on lies because of China. We weren't being told the truth. You can blame some of that misinformation, a lot of it actually on them, as doctor Perks has said many times. Also an evolution, you know, for in the beginning, nobody knows how bad anything was going to be. But from very early on January twenty seventh, when I had doctor Fauci on TV, then again on the twenty eighth and I'm sorry, then on February tenth, and then I had doctor Josh and a team of medical experts January twenty eighth. The travel band was the thirty first. You know, the first known case in America was January twenty first. We were covering at January twenty seventh on Hannity. And then as you go throughout the crisis, you try to give people perspective and say, well, don't forget. You know, everyone forgets. We lose tens of thousands of people every year with the flu, or sixty point eight million Americans contracted H one N one virus, or that hundreds of thousands of people, or if Joe Biden's N one h one, you know, hundreds of thousands of people. They ended up going to hospitals and having to go into the hospital because of all of this with H one N one, and then we lost seventeen thousand Americans, over twelve thousand Americans in a year. Every life is perfect. I wish we never had pandemics, but I was warning people early on, in the late days of January and early February, that I was concerned because people that were asymptomatic with this particular version of the flu. Remember they first discovered at December thirtieth only of last year. They didn't name it till Ruary seventh of this year, so it's been an evolution. We didn't think it become a worldwide pandemic, but as you learn more, you do more. Nobody else in the media, the Democrats were busy impeaching the president through February fifth. Nancy Pelosi January twenty fourth, what was she doing? She was, I'm sorry, February twenty fourth, was telling people to go to Chinatown in San Francisco, come visit. It's safe. March second, Guys like Andrew Cuomo, with all respect, we are New York. It's just want to be art our arrogance as New Yorkers. I speak for the mayor also on this point, We think we have the best healthcare system on the planet right here in New York and I have. So when you're saying what happened in other countries versus what happened here, we don't even think it's going to be as bad as it was in other countries, you know. And it's like you got the media mob, and then what they do is they sliced dice and at it. They're not going to put in the real timeline. When I was warning of people about it being asymptomatic and people that are carriers and it's highly contagious and they can infect other people. And for example, early on, what were we told We were told early on it was an impact young people. We were told that for the first couple of months, and it turns out, yeah, young people are being impacted by it. We did, but every doctor, Fauci himself on down, was saying it. But with that said, it would have been exponentially worse had the president not in the middle of him being impeached, implemented the travel ben Nobody in the mob in the media gives him credit for that. Nobody, you know, go back to March third, Super Tuesday, not that long ago. Nobody was covering coronavirus wall to wall like this. We didn't expect it would be exponentially worse, but it became. So you got to deal with the hand you dealt, and then you got to do everything you can do for mitigation efforts. First the fifteen days to stop the spread and the April thirtieth deadline. We're twenty days away from that. But at some point now, because of science, we are now going to be able to test people, which means that'll be helpful in opening up American business as quickly as possible. I don't know if if in the interim, maybe for restaurants and airlines, you might have to put everybody in masks and gloves, take temperatures until you can get the ABBOT five minute test. And maybe we're gonna have to show up at airports, you know, four hours early and get a COVID nineteen test, and we want the airline industry up and running again. I don't know for the time being. No, eventually, this is you got to watch out for the predictable efforts. Everybody will predict there's going to be a rebound. It's not if it's when it's going to happen anyway, eight hundred nine one Sean to free telephone number. Now, on the issue of the deep state and Spygate, there has been so much in terms of new developments. Our friend John Solomon has not given up the story. And you know, on top of what the Attorney General Bars had to say, you know, Russia case footnotes that are about to be declassified as it relates to the Horowitz Report, He's got his new website up and running, just thenews dot com. How are you, sir, I'm doing well, Sean. A lot of big developments in the middle of a pandemic. Nonetheless, Yeah, well, we got to get the country up and running. Now, you have not kept your eye off the ball. You've been uppeeling the onion. A lot has happened since we last spoke, right, let's talk about it. Yeah. So, I think one thing what the Attorney General said yesterday was a big evolution of even what the Justice Department has said in the past. He did not believe there was any basis to open this investigation up. That is a very profound statement, and we're going to see today later today, I believe we're going to get these footnotes unredacted from the bottom of the Michael Horwitz report. And they're going to show why Attorney General Barr would make such a claim inside the FBI's own files as they were starting this investigation, as Christopher Stilla was starting to put his dope into the dossier and give it to the FBI. It turned out the FBI had strong reason to believe what he was getting at that moment was Russian disinformation. It was propaganda from the beginning, and the FBI knew that, and they kept that from Congress, they kept it from the American people, they kept it from the FISTU court. That's why you can see the Attorney General making such a broad sweeping statement like he did to Lord the other night. Okay, so everything that we had reported premeditated fraud audifies a court. Multiple warnings. These were stories you broke, for example, about Katholeen Cavalac and Bruce Orr as early as August, they were warned, don't trust Hillary Clinton. Bolton paid for Russian dossier. Number one, she paid for it. Number two, it's not verified. Number three, Christopher Steel as an agenda, a political agenda. Yeah, and now they used it anyway, and it's unverifiable and it turns out to be debunked. Yeah, and now there could be a new element. It might have been Russian disinformation all along. They knew he was working for Clinton and Fusion GPS, and they fed him stuff. Now, why is that significant? Remember what the Obama administration told us at the end of their term. Not only did the Russians hack, they tried to do this to help Donald Trump get elected and Hillary Culton to get defeated. Well, here's the thing. If they were feeding bad information about Trump to harm Trump, that undercuts potentially what the Obama administration tried to sell us at the end of their administration. Yeah, which is, by the way, that this was all designed to help President Trump. Now that's right. Even the New York Times had reported, Oh, finally late in the game, it was likely Russian disinformation from the beginning. That's right. Well, these footnotes are going to make that clear. We're going to learn some other things about problems at the senior leadership of the FBI learned that very early on that show that this was not paper clerical errors going on here. These were systemic decisions to avoid telling the court the truth, avoid telling the American public the truth. And I think over the next few weeks has more to classifications occur, and I hear more coming. We are going to get a far greater picture. I mean, we saw yesterday the transcript. Remember we can go back to last fall. You and I talked about this. Papadopolis caught on a transcript telling the FBI informants before the election, we didn't hack right, we weren't involved with the Russians. Of the poor Papadopoulos. You know, I've read something sad, you know, apparently it's caused a lot of strain and his new marriage. And I can understand it, m and I feel sorry for them. I mean, they're one of the very nice people that both of them. Yeah, and you're in the line like that, it's tough. It's it listened, being in the line of fires a lot more rougher than people know. And you know it and I know it, but a lot of people not. Yeah, DNA does not is not made for this type of public beat down every day. But yeah, that's true, and it's it's hard. It's you know, all of a sudden you're in front and center and a part of a national narrative. But this guy went to jail for nothing. Yeah, that's what we're going to find out. It's going to have been nothing. And just like just like was surveiled for nothing, and Carter Page, Donald Trump was to bide on for nothing, and General Flynn was they abused their power with him too, they knew he did nothing wrong. How do we fix this mess? Well, I think you know, there's going to be a probably a small number of criminal prosecutions of people that will make a very large statement. And maybe a small number, but a large statement. But I think the greatest thing that we're going to learn is how this was carried out, in more specificity, the level of deception and playing within the bureaucracy that went on to achieve this sort of false narrative in the media. And I think shaming is going to play a big role of this as well. There's going to be some criminal prosecutions, I think a small numbers. I've been saying along. Well, that's what Barr was saying in a statement. He couldn't be any more clear that Durham is not all about a report. He's all about, you know, looking for criminal activity, and that means grand juries and charges and prosecutions, and there's been some of that going on. I've seen some evidence of the grand jury work in the last four or five six weeks. It's been going on, even in the middle of the pandemic, and I think we're going to get a better sense of what that looks like. Well, that's the first time you've told me that. What do you know? Well, I know of some witnesses that received subpoenas. I know of some witnesses that have appeared before the grand jury, And again, I think it's very foundational. They're building a very As the Attorney General said, it takes time. Right Where is this taking place in DC or in the Boston area DC? Is my understandings. Yea, at least the grand jury subpoenas that I've heard from people were in the DC area, but there could be multiple places where this is going on. But the one I'm most familiar with were some grand jury subpoenas that came out of the DC area. If they've got to build this case methodically, and you know, they have a good starting point. We know there was a crime clearly identified in the IGS report. A FBI lawyer changed the document to deceive the court they literally fraudently changed the document to deceive the court. That's a crime. I believe they will start there and then they will wind back. Why did that person do that and who else was involved and who instructed that? And what other intentional acts did we learn about that occurred in the same manner. What about all the people that signed the FISA applications, knowing that the top of a FISA applications is verified, and none of it was verified. What about the people who put their signature on it, like James Comey, Yeah, and Andrew McCabe and Rod Rosenstein. Every time you played that Rod Rosenstein clip on your show, you're reminded, Oh, we did this right, we did this right. Those guys lied to us when they said that they did nothing right. Nothing about this is right. And last week, what did we learned? Twenty nine or twenty nine fises reviewed all of them wrong. The FBI has not been following the law for a long time on this, and there has to be a reckoning. I don't believe that those people will be prosecuted for signing the documents. Now, there may be other questions, right, false testimony is an area that I believe Durham has been focusing on. Based on the grand jury subpoenas and questions that I've heard, it's possible that some of the people who gave false representations to Congress could get prosecuted for those false representations. So that's an area I'd keep an eye in. What about guys like Roger Stone. I mean, not only did they have a pre dawn rate of his house and all they needed to do is call his attorney and he would have surrendered, saying, what mana for it? But you know, twenty nine guys, tactical gears, CNN cameras, frogmen in the backyard, and for what. It's because too much of our law enforcement has become a law and order television show instead of being a law and order by the book, by the law. And that's what we got to fix. We have to fix that culture. And I think that Attorney General Barr really made some profound statements about how determined he is to fix this culture. It has got a but we'll stay on at justinnews dot com. John Solomon, thank you all right, gladuate with us. It is this good Friday edition. Sean Hannity Show Easter on Sunday, and I know it's not going to be the same for everybody that hurts, but Happy Easter to everybody. It is a time of renewal and rebirth of you will Christ rising from the dead after giving his life ultimate sacrifice from mankind or reconcile mankind to God and all of which I believe. And these are tough times. I just watched the president in an exchange. You know, well, why did you shut down that country? And you don't have enough and it's like eight you know, Unfortunately from the political standpoint in the mob in the media in this case, it was fake news, Acosta. It's just there's nothing that the president can do that they're ever going to give him credit for. Nobody, I mean, we played Anthony Fauci being wrong on this in the very beginning, in part we were lie to that played a part in it. We were talking to doctor Fauci on January twenty seventh about this and early on talking about, well, what about all these asymptomatic people that are running around contagious and how bad is it going to be? No one expected it would be this bad. Nobody expected, but so you react, you adapt. Now the question as the President was saying, he's got a big decision to make, and that is, how do we open the country? How do we open it safely? Now, certain air geographical areas of the country, it's not going to be as difficult. Remember the country is still open. Because if the country was totally closed off, your grocery stores would be empty and closed, the walmarts would be closed, the right aids and CBSS would be closed. All these places would be closed to not now, we want our shelves filled. We want our medicines and our pharmacies. We want to be able to go to Walmart. We want to be able to pick up the supplies we need bring them back home so we can continue to live our lives. That that part of the economy never shutdown, never can shut down. So opening it up, you know it will be a fairly Look, there'll be a new normal. As we've been saying, part of the new normal is okay. In areas with high density populations like New York City, it's going to be way more difficult than in more rural areas of the country. But these these companies that are building, the medical supplies are up and the ventilators are up, the farmers are up, the producers, the packers are up, the drivers are up. You know. Nancy Pelosi say you better not open up the country too soon. We don't really have What about all those people. She's saying, you're from the comfort of our gated community, multimillion dollars mansion. She needs to be at work. There might be a depression. Open up the economy. Anyway. Doctor Oz is back with us, and I'm gonna ask him this one question and then we're going to take calls for the full hour. Doctor Roles, how are you, sir? I'm doing very very well. Can I make fun of you a little bit? Please do? Please? Please do? Yeah? Please hit me while I'm down. So you're giving out advice I notice on how to sleep better. If coronavirus's anxiety is keeping you up at night, there's one problem. I happen to know you now, and you I happen to know your hours now, and I happen to know you don't sleep. So it's like you you given advice on sleep or me in the middle of all this, even with my pillow, I'm not getting much sleep. Well, I'm sleeping harder than ever when I do sleep is a little ironic because you're not sleeping. How many hours do you sleep at night? Well, normally I sleep seven hours. But I have never been busier in my life than what has happened here. And I got to say part of the reason is because research is taking place on every continent. And so when I get up in the morning, like this morning, I got up at you know, before six, because I had to do some Elvis Durand's show is a good friend at he's getting speaks to a very different audience, and I want to get to that audience on Thursday. And as I get by the way, I adored him, and you know, we're very close friends and he really knows how to communicate and folks listen to him, they trust him. So I want to be able to go on with him and share insights. Any case. I'm getting up to do that, and what do I notice an email from did Roult. That's again the French physician we've been talking about. He just met with Macron last night and he sent me the data that he shared with Macron. Now I wasn't expecting that, but so instead of going back to deep Game for an hour, I end up fitting the next couple hours putting the pieces together for Fox and Friends this morning, and that's been my left. But to your point, normally, in my day job, if I'm either the operating or doing my show and there's not a pandemic taking place, I'm in bed by ten thirty and I get up at six, and I'm pretty ruthless about it. I won't you know, I don't do. I learned I don't like to answer emails after ten because they're never good news. Right, You never get a good email at ten at night. Something bad just happened that you're going to belie. Listen, I'll give you five weeks. In my political world, it'll be much worse whatever the email is, by a multiple of one hundred, except you're dealing in with life and does so maybe that's not fair. All right, let's start with Okay, how do we safely? I think you'll agree with me certain geographic parts of the country we could probably open. Now. I think you'll agree with me that a new normal, like in a city like New York, is going to include gloves and social distancing and masks. But I think the answer is massive manufacturing of the abbot. Test your thoughts on how you can open up a city like New York. Without question, we've been flying blind. If you had to point to one critical issue that everybody would agree with, not a wep their political persuasion, it would be that we didn't have testing and timely fashion, no scenario, no simulation had ever taken into account, that possibility that you would be able to see literally your enemy at any capacity, even see the victims that it is hit. And so if we're gonna unleashed the economy, which obviously we have to do at some point, and this, you know, this is obviously disproportionately hitting poor people, folks who are manual labors, the people desperately need jobs that don't have a paycheck coming in no matter what, like me and you. For those folks to get back in, we're going to have to find a way of testing. So you bring up the AVID test, and I've been dialoguing with them, and I really do like these guys a lot. They're very up in front. I have nothing but praise for them. That's a five minute test, It's incredible. So their numbers are actually pretty good. They're making a million of the test that takes six hours a week, and they're making you know, like three hundred thousand, three hundred fifty thousand up to five minute tests a week starting this week. So that's over a million tests a week. And best you know, that mccleonland review that I've been reading and others have been influenced by that sort of maps out of strategy would argue that you need about three quarters of a million tests a week unless it's an outbreak. So let's just say it's a million a week. We have enough test to do it. What we have to be able to do is get them to where the people are. So if you look around the country. In New York State, you know, I mean, people get to test at least one out of three, maybe a little more, are positive in most of the countries one out of ten. So we need to put the test where the people are, whoever the problems, and in a place that New York City. It's going to have to be on public areas that are readily readily accessible. Thank the this is going to be warmer weather. I don't care if they're intense, but they have to put those tests everywhere around the country. Same thing, and we're gonna have to, let you know, if you have certain symptoms, maybe we do it on your phone. They use technology the private way that only you control. But if you think you're having a problem, we should be really easy for you to find a place that can test you immediately. Then you go home if you're sick, and if you're not saying, you know whatever, it needs to happen, Oh you're great now. Like, for example, if every building in New York had if they for example, every building has got to accept that there's going to be more people working from home, then the people essential personnel can start coming in. But if we have enough of those toaster sized tests, and we could use the six hour tests, you take the test one day and if it comes right, you come back the next day and you can work. You can get in the building. You know, you can put like a green little sticker on the back. I said goal before green, how about green for go and read for stop. You know, something like that, just simple to identify. Okay, I've been tested and I'm negative or I have the antibodies. But the thing is, I don't think that's where the risks are. People working in a nice office building, they have a lot of backup systems. They don't go home with fear in their heart. The people that are going to be the problem are folks that the father of two kids married, he's the only breadwinner and he's you know, he's making a minimum wage or close to it, but he doesn't feel well. He's still going to go to work. That guy has to get tested because he's incentivized to not played by the rules because he's trying to feed his kids. And so we need to make it easy for everyone to get tested because that's how it will rise up through the ranks pretty quickly. And I think that's very doable. But to your point, if we have the testing, and we now have it, we got to distribute it. But there's one other part of this you have to do. It's really important. It's not naturally in our instinct to go quarantine ourselves. Most people don't know how to do that, and you definitely don't know how to identify people that you probably inadvertently infected. So we have to help you figure that out. If we could do those two things, Sean, and then add one last thing, make sure we have enough hospital capacities so if we do have a step up we can save people. Then we can launch the country, and political leaders had a planed b besides pulling the emergency brake. And by the way, New York, there's like hardly any patience on the Navy ship the comfort. They're not filling up the Jabbt Center either. I mean, Americans cooperated more than I think anybody ever thought, and I think they would do more. And I think people are willing to keep up social distancing and wearing gloves and masks and using purel etc. And for the safety of other people. I think people are willing to do that now and for a period. I mean, we don't want it to be the rest of our lives. Probably handshaking is finished. But I think I would use the Defense Production Act and get the Abbot tests. I would be making millions of those machines, tens of millions of them, as quickly as possible. It is not a good idea, it is a good idea. Can ask one last thing I'm curious about your opinion on this is that you know you know eighty percent of questions or statements in disguise, This is not one. This is a real question. What should we do with older Americans who have chronic morbidities like high blood pressure, which once again in this French study that I just got this morning, it was the most important thing it stuck out of me was how much that changed your chance of dying or having a major problem was if you had high blood pressure. And there's a bunch of reasons for that. But let's say you're older with high blood pressure or diabetes or some chronic illness. What do we do to make sure you don't get ill? Is it fair to say you got to stay away from everybody else? You're double the sensitive. We're going to bring you your food. We'll do whatever we can't. Please try to stay out of the way. I can't do it in perpetuity. But maybe they're the people that get the You know, we have tens and tens of millions of masks in the pipeline and ninety five masks. Maybe they get the masks and the gloves themselves. You know, I'm worried about how do we open up a restaurant, how do we open up the airline industry? I mean, for twenty somethings getting on a plane, going to a restaurant, going to a bar, they'll spread the infection and they'll get sick, but they won't get that sick because that's historically what's going on with this virus. At least that becomes immorged a reasonable goal unless they go see grandma, and then grandma unfortunately, you know, it has a real problem, especially if she's in a nursing home and then everybody in nursing home gets sick. That's what we have to prevent. So we have to be and we're going to make a conscious decision about this. Because we love our parents and our in laws and everybody else, We're gonna have to make take the extra step to protect them. But to protect them, I think most Americans will do that. I think listen, I have an older person in my life recently went through chemotherapy. Nobody got near this person unless you were wearing a mask and gloves. That's it. Nobody. And yeah, because you have if you have that compromised immune system, I mean, you just have to do these things. But like a restaurant, I mean, how are you going to open a restaurant, doctor os, That's gonna be tough. How are you going to get the airline industry up and running? If you don't test every body well, the restaurants. I've been talking to the friend. My daughter's a chef. You know, my wife and my daughter are chefs. So I've been talked to Chris. I don't have time to eat the food because I'm talking with you. That's solutions. But here's here's what I'm here's what I'm hearing. They're saying, we're gonna have to put our tables six feet away from everyone else's tables, so within the table that you're at, that's a clear exposure. Right. So you're gonna go to dinner with people that you spend time with and you trust a lot. But aside from that, the people at the next table who you don't know, are not going to be on top of you, which is you know, if you go to a good New York City restaurant, they're packing them in there like Shardine's. We're not going to be doing that. Those you know, those capacity numbers that they put on buildings all over the country, they're just fires. Now they're going to be designed from infections and so instead of having a three hundred capacity, it's going to be a one thing. I mean that means concerts are going to be on hold. For you know, through you know, December and supporting of her. I've spoken the big time promoters who do all the artists that you know completely gone this year. I mean they're not there because people are e When you survey Americans, this has been done, eighty percent of Americans will not go to a concert. We're not going to a football game or a basketball game or a hockey match. They're not going to do it. Even if you were to open it up, people can easily set six feet from each other because no one's going. So what's the point of opening up the facility. It's a pain the neck and again I think this is one year of intense pain. But then after that, at least our economy is functioning, and there's a loss, there's a lost significantly. We can't let us say hi to Peter in Michigan, Peter say hi to doctor oz Hi, doctor oz how are you? How are you? Peter? What's your question? Okay, Well, look we're on another lockdown here for another three weeks in Michigan. The governor. Governor just ordered this. I think we're having some mental health issues here that no one's really talking about and addressing. Can you talk about that a little bit. Please, This is a huge crisis in China when they locked down the one area, and you know, they had initially sixty million people lockdown, but subsequently about eleven million. DIGHT did studies on the mental health and about half the people had significant depression. And we're social creatures, right, We're supposed to be with each other. Do just look at the size of our brain. To go hunting, you need about a wal night size brain. The whole reason the prefontal cortex grew out massively in humans is for two reasons. To look at each other's face and figure out what are you really thinking? Forget the words, what are you really thinking? And then to hear your voice and process it so I can really get into the deeper elements of what you're trying to get across. So if you can't do that because you're locked away by yourself, it starts to create a problem. And of course the people suffer the most of the folks who are already having difficulty financially, then they take it out on their kids and their spouses and it becomes a real crisis. And we're already seeing that with suicides. And I'm not saying it's caused in these but these are being noticed already spousal abuse and subsequently will have additional problems, so it becomes a worry. So here's just one basic tip that I can offer. What we really need is hope, and the best way to get hope is to have purpose. And this is a time when you can. You know, there's it's a time for battlefield commissions because we're in the war. So go lead something, Go figure something that you can make a different sign. Because if you don't feel like you have any control of your destiny, that is the ultimate stressful experience. But if you think, you know what, it's not a big deal. But I can go feed my neighbor, help my neighbor's kid get better education because I know how to homeschool math. Or I'm going to go over to the older couple and see if I can go shopping because I'm you know, I'm going anyway. I'll go for them. Those kinds of initiatives really add up rapidly. And again, Michigan's got three more weeks, but I think may first most people are gonna be pretty good. Last thing, you can socially distance outside fresh air and a little sun goes a long way, and I'm not I'm not saying that it does help me a lot. But more calls for doctor Oz A good call. By the way, We'll get to your calls. Eight hundred and nine for one Shaw, next half hour, straight to the calls right twenty five to the top of the hour, eight hundred and nine four one sean. If you want to be a part of this program, we're taking calls for doctor Oz this half hour. Arn't laugher on the economy. At the top of the next hour, let's say hi to Missy is in West Virginia. Missy, welcome aboard. Say hi to doctor Oz. Hi, doctor Oz, how are you, Missy? What's your question? My question is, so the concern is that the people shedding this that may not show symptoms of it. Are you certain that they're going to get antibodies? And my reasoning for asking that is, I've lived with patients zero for twenty years. He gets the flu every year. I did not. I have an autoimmune disease. I have hashimotos. I don't get sick, and I don't know why. So do I have immunity to the flu? And are there people who are going to be exposed to it, not have antibodies, and not just get it because they're just not going to The answer is yes, I think we don't know for sure about the antibody pardon how much you'll have, but there are definitely some people who just not going to have symptoms. You know, this virus invades us through a receptor in our nose called an ACE two receptor. You're not like an ACE bandage ACE two receptor. So some people have more than others, and some parts of the world, like Northern Europeans, they just have more of those receptors in their nose, so they end up getting more virus. Now does not translate to more illness. Does it make them ill for longer? We don't know, but we do know that it's a penalty shot that's just genetic and that's going to be head in their future. Interestingly, folks in Asia have less of those receptors, so your reason that you don't get sick maybe partly related to the fact that the influenza virus, which is a different virus, doesn't get into your body quite as readily. However, let's go back to the real fundamental issue. If you are ill and don't have any symptoms, your body is not irritated by it, so there's a likelihood that your antibody response might not be as aggressive. And there have been cases already people who have had the infection tested negative. So theoretically they're over it, right and normally you think, okay, you're immune to it, but then they get the infection again. Now one of two things happened. Either they got over that infection and they got a different version of this virus to infect them, which is that sort of a hassle because now you've got to make two vaccines, or the fact the virus never left their body. It just hid like you know, chicken box becomes exhauster, you know that shingles. So sometimes viruses just don't go away, this hide for a while, and they come back up again when something else happened. So that's another possibility. It's not common, but that might be an issue. And finally, if you don't have a big immune response, you can still make lots of antibodies. That's not that we don't know exactly why some people and some don't, but that's always going to be a possibility. Staying on the same topic topic, Missy thank you, Randy, as in Michigan, Randy say hi to doctor Oz, good afternoon. Same similar question as a person who was recovering from the virus donates his players ma twice. Who a year from now if there's a flare up, does he have enough community left to protect them and would he'd be able again to give players money another year. So we only have four months of experience with this virus if you go back into December, which no, we didn't know about it back then, and there's no way predicting what's going to happen in a year. Theoretically we should still have enough antibodies in us in a year. That would be the natural process if you've been hit by the flu, that you have that antibody in you for at least a year. And all we got to do is get to a year. And the good news, of course, people are going to be recovering uneventfully from this virus even in a year, be able to give their antibodies if yours have run down. The bigger concern I start to have is we don't know how long the antibodies will less for. So it's a possibility that in some people don't wear off in six, eight, ten, twelve months. So we're going to get the vaccine as soon as we can so we can build that immunity and herd immunity, not herd mentality, but herd immunity is when sixty seventy percent of people have in the antibodies, because that way that you have a firewall to protect the virus from raging through a population. Right now, we've got in places like New York, we think maybe fifteen percent of the people, maybe twenty percent I've had, the infection might be much higher. Most parts of the country, it's very low, so we don't really have protection. So we don't want to, you know, we don't want do that experiment. Randy, thank you Renee in North Carolina. Renee, you're on with doctors glad you called. Thank you doctor Oz for everything you're doing. I have a question about first how do you claim for us produce to get rid of corona on it? And secondly, is it killed by either sun or subfreezing temperatures. We don't think temperature kills it. It doesn't last as long in the heat, and especially when it's dry, it needs a little moisture to keep it alive. Because you know, viruses aren't really alive till they're in your cell. They just sort of sitting there like seeds, and so if they're moisture, they like that. If it's dry and it's hot, and you know, they don't last so long. Produce is an interesting issue. We don't we don't have any evidence that you could eat coronavirus and get sick. I know it sounds crazy, and I'm sure if you had enough of it you would, but it doesn't seem to be how the virus it's us. So the bigger issue would be you touch the fruit, touch your face with your fingers, then you get it in your nose, your eye or someplace like that. So what we do in our families we wash it. If it's something they can't get washed easily, we try to heat it, because you know, if you give you cook it, you'll kill anything. But soap and water is an incredibly powerful combination because the soap actually penetrates it. It perforates the place where the virus or the home that it makes for itself, and then you surround it with soap. They're called my cells, these pieces of soap, and it carries away with the water. That's why it's a very inexpensive, very reproducible that doesn't taste too good, which is why there are others. There's some soaps that are made specifically for produce, but that's not a big risk. I don't think the container it comes in might be all right. Good culver and thank you. Ed is in Kansas City and you're on with doctor Ys. Glad you called. Hi, Thanks for taking my call. I just wonder if doctors and knows of any studies that have looked at the effect of statins, those cholesterol learning drugs on the outcome because they have anti inflammatory properties. Yeah. I like statins because of the anti inflammatory pop properties, and not everyone needs to be on one, but when they appropriate they use it can be very helpful. I'm unaware of any studies showing that they're beneficial. Uh, there are other products that seem to like the hydroxychlorically and we've been talking about that help with immune mediation and folks with lupus. But they're more powerful. It might be that the statin drugs are just aren't strong enough to move the needle yet. But again, we're discovering things. I'll tell you something. I just found out that you might all might be interested in that, you know, I was. We were talking calling around to these European investigators, and that this large study in Europe showed that eighty five percent of people who have coronavirus when you examine them, actually don't have normal taste anymore, at eighty eight percent don't have normal smell. Now it gets better, but that might be a nice way of identifying who's got the virus. So instead of just relying on the test from Abbott, for example, which we're gonna need to make the definitive test, you can say, okay, everyone, just there's an automated system if you can you test us to taste us it away for good god, you next got you got you, You're not normal. You got to get checked. Same for temperature scans. So there might be ways of automatic discreating huge groups of people and then setting the ones you're worried about to get tested. All right, good call, appreciate it. Back to our phones. Dianas and Yorktown Heights, New York. Diane, glad you called your own with doctor oz Hi. Doctor oz I believe I had the virus back in early February, but did not get tested. I had every symptom. When can I get an antibody test? We should have anybody test next week, That's what I'm being told. We've been interviewing members of the task force. They've been saying that for a while. They had a misstep, you know, two weeks ago, so it never got out. But I'm thinking by the end of next week there'll be some out there. You probably won't be the first person they want to get to, because they want to go to healthcare providers, you know, and just to make the DIP. The most important thing for us to do as find docs and nurses and technicians who have already had it and are safe, because getting them back into the er and the ICU is really helpful and they don't have to be quite as meticulous potentially because they can't directly get it again as quickly. But I think by the end of this month, I'm hoping you could get tested and then you'd go for sure. All right, good call, Thank you, Diane. Let's get back to our phones. Let's say hie to Don in Colorado. Don, how are you you're on with doctor? I was glad you called. With patients having a blood oxygen level in the seventies. Has anybody tried a hyperbaric chamber? Excellent question, concepts of courses instead of atmospheric pressure, where you can actually pressurize the air around you and drive more auction into the body. The problem is those devices are incredibly clunky to work around, and we don't have enough. Even closer, you don't have to completely clean it every single time to be able to put patients in there, because they're different strains of the virus. So it's just a logistically an impossible task. And if you're already on a breeding tube, putting you in there, you know, darn your impossible because you have to seal the thing off from the outside world. So unfortunately it's not a practical solution, but theoretically it could have worked if we had enough. Good call again, thank you, let's say hi to is it Josie, Josie in Virginia? How are you? Josie? Glad you called your own with doctor Oz eight hundred nine for one sean mother, I just calls for doctor Oz. Everybody's so called quiet about the various vitamin D and A and other things that are effective on the lungs. Anything holistic they're not. They're just waiting for a vaccine which maybe they can force on us later. Doctor Sherry ten Penny is fabulous. She was talking about this last night and I wonder why they're not talking about it. Why you doctor os is not talking about it and other doctors are not talking about it. Well, I know, Sherry ten Penny said, and have talked to her quite a bit. I have. I made a total a sheet, a survival kits sheet that Sean sent out and I, you know, it's the most popular piece of paper I ever put out there. And it's a it's a you know, it's a quick cheat sheet of things you should do. And on there I put vitamin D is the number one thing to do to prevent getting a virus, not to coronavirus, because we don't know that yet. But doctor Hannity out, you know, I could concur with his earlier comment about sunlight, because the sun doesn't just give you vitamin D. It gives you about fifty other important chemicals, many of which have remarkable impact on your immune system, sleep, and lots of other functions that are healthy for you. So going out and if you're able to for this easter weekend, getting some sun on your front and your back and your leg. It's not your face. There's not much vitamin D absr up through your face and your age yourself. But you know, put it on your back, in your stomach before you put on some block and get a little bit of vitamin day or take it as a pill form twelve hundred units now if you feel ill. Data from people who have had the common cold, which is also often a coronavirus or a cousin of what we're dealing with now have as pretty clearly shown that vitamin C and zinc and bid a uklan which is basically mushroom, have been effective and shortening the course or the severity of the illness. So I told people to go ahead and do that. It's not going to hurt. Some doctors are using high dose vitam and see in the ICU for really sick patients, but I'm not talking about that kind of dose. This is just orally as a pill form, So your points are well taken. Unfortunately, no one has had the time and nor the confidence in these items to make a big difference. But zinc is actually breaking through. I interviewed a doctor from California, very busy emergency room doctor, and he's been using hydroxyl chloroquine zythromycin, but he adds zinc and he adds it for important reason. And the French doctors agree with this concept, although they didn't initially start doing it. But you need the zinc actually to get through the cell, and that's partly what the hydroxyl chloroquine does. So you naturally have zinc in your body, that's probably enough, but if not, you need to give higher amounts. So he gives a lot of zinc with these meds, and he says within a day he sees remarkable turnarounds and the patients that are he uses this on. Not not everyone gets it. Only people who thinks are in trouble get it. But if you're if you're having issues, that's what he does for his patience. It's fine. I've been taking sinc every day too. What I've been doing is, you know, I do mixed martial arts. I've been doing it for seven years. As it relates to being outside and just feeling fresh air and the sun. I've been working outside every day, working out outside, even even in the rain, and by the way, a little bit of a distance. We're not doing the full on contact like we usually do. And for me psychologically, just the fresh air as helps and so that I'm just passing that along. Is it the panacea or for people that are feeling down? No, but for me it helps, It gives me a lift, it makes me feel better. So I imagine others feel the same way. Dallas, Texas, Lily on with doctor Oz. Glad you call, Lily, how are you? I'm well? Doctor. I have a quick question. Is the venolators causing more problems than good? Doing more damage to the lung So this has been in the news a lot for the less couple of days. The ventilators are designed and used often for people who have damage to the lungs caused by pneumonia. So one of the challenges we find is you have to actually put higher pressure on the lungs to get them to open. It's like a balloon that you first start to blow up. You gotta put extra pressure in there to get it going, and then after that it opens up comfortably. Well, it turns out with this virus that's not really necessary for a lot of patients, and the real issue is they can't outrigenate. It's not so much that the lung ist stiff, is that the lung doesn't work, and so when you put extra pressure into a lung like that, you can risk damaging the lung. As soon as I get off this wonderful hour with you guys taking questions at five o'clock in Eastern time, I've got a call with a bunch of intensive care unit doctors about this very issue, because they think we might want to use a different tactic for these lungs, to coat the lungs with a natural substance that we make but is just activated by this by the virus, and that might allow us to have less people on ventilators. That's just good because we don't have enough ventilators in New York right now. But also help get people to survive, because although Governor Almo said we have a twenty percent survival rate, which is you know, tragical. Well, actually, they do have enough ventilators in New York. I mean that shortage them. We do now, Yeah, I mean, but if there was a big breakout again in another part of the country, I just want to avoid Chicago having the same issue or Dallas. You know, crazy agreed. Look at the hospital that we built the Army Corps of Engineers in Washington State is now. They didn't put a single patient in it. The Navy Ship of Comfort has very few patients. The Javit Center never got anywhere near full. Um Mitigation efforts obviously work, starting with the travel band subsequent travel bands. But um anyway, I might set out a shut up, I'm gonna shut up a right back to our phones. Robin New York is a doctor. Rob How are you say hi to doctor oz Sean. You're amazing and I've been listening to you forever. I'm in the like success. I'm kind of a neighbor of viewers. Doctor, I've been watching you forever. I'm a physician. I had the virus untested back in February. Like a previous caller saw a throat the five. I'm a marathon runner. I fought it off in about two plus weeks. The dry corp was awful. Here's my question to you, number one. We must at a comment. We must get that antibody test. That's that's so important because we society could get back to working. Because if we are we're gold. We are the people that could get back out there because the vaccine is gonna take a lot longer. So I think that's the most important thing. I believe this virus. I've talked to many people in my field as well as lots of friends. They seem to have had it back in January February, all these same symptoms. Now my question to you on the more important I'm on a personal level since the dry corp okay that I had, my lungs just don't feel the way they used to feel. I fought it off. I was trained for the Boston Marathon. I'm an elite runner, but my lungs are are unique. But is there some residual problems with are you noticing with people that fought it off and you know, I saw we all have about thirty seconds. There was a paper recently that reported that some people have irritation of their lung and scarring from it. So it doesn't go back all the way to normal. We don't know if it will take longer to get back to normal with the long terms of quality are but some of this injuries profound and people are shorter breath who have never been shorter breath. That's one of the back back One of the most telltale signs is that fatigue and shortness of breath. You know that goes along with it. And if you have that, or you lose your sense of smell, don't ignore it because those could be signs. All right, doctors, Number one, you've been amazing. You spend all day and all night seeking answers and cures. You're generous with your time, You're helping the country. Thank you for all you're doing. And I hope you do get some sleep this weekend. It's been a rough week, a little few more rough days and hopefully we're on the other side. And the down slope said that we had this coronavirus thing come in there and take us from not the best economy ever, and it did knock us off the block. It did that. But you know, once the coronavirus has gone, I fully expect us to come back to our high levels because the same policy is the same president, the same teams in place, and I think we're going to be in fine shape in a while. As a Trump supporter and a guy who thinks Trump is one of the best presidents we've ever had, I was delighted to see Joe Biden win the Democratic primary, not because I want to vote for Joe Biden, but because I think Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders would be very, very bad for this country. And if by chance, I think it's small chance, but if Biden wins the election, I think he would do a lot better job than any other Democratic candidate that was running for office. So I'm very pleased that Joe Biden's winning the nomination for the Democratic Party. We do have, I think a fourth stimulus plan, a rescue plan, call it what you like. It's coming at us. You don't think it works, you don't think we should do it? No, I don't. I mean, as you know, Stewart, I'm the biggest fan of this president's ever. I think he's been the best president so far in the last fifty years. I mean, ritty, I'm a huge fan. But this stimulus package will make things worse, not better. What we need to do is let people who work and produce keep their income, not have the government take it. And by putting that stimulus package in, just like in the two thousand and eight two thousand and nine period and in the Great Depression, it will make the economy worse, not better. But I don't get it. I don't get it. I don't see how massive spending. Oh, we're talking trillions and trillions and trillions of dollars. I don't see how that does not put a flaw under the economy. I don't see how it hurts. They come, you'll explain it to me. You tell me how spending all of this money actually huts the economy. I will. Government spending is taxation. Government doesn't create resources to it, they redistribute resources. Whenever the government spends a trillion dollars, it takes a trillion dollars from workers and producers who others would. So government spending is taxation. And as such, government spending will reduce the growth rate of the US and will hurt the economy in bad, bad times. Now, when we're rich and when prosperous, government spending it's perfect then because then we can afford to take resources away from producers. But right now we need to be the fans of producers, not the fans of consumers. I'm very sorry, but that's what has to be done. Now. We need free markets more than ever. All right now, the question is when do we open up the economy, How do you open up the economy, how do you do it with the knowledge that there will be not maybe there will be a rebound. To me, the answer lies in the five minute testing. But you have to maintain health privacy and civil liberties and constitutional rights. You know, Art Laffer is with us. The President said to me the other night, you look so young. When I mentioned you. You did not agree with the financial package rescue plan. From the beginning. Your thought would have been that we have a payroll tax cut seven hundred and fifty billion dollars minimum. But anyway, it's been past two point two brillion, unprecedented amount of money, and four trillion the FED leaving up for Loan's art. Now they're talking about phase three in a phase four, and I'm not sure if there's any example in history, none that I can think of, where that's ever worked. I think you're correct. I mean it usually doesn't work. I mean, the incentive plan here on the getting rid of the payroll tax would work. I mean, the nicest thing there is. Payroll taxes are about nine point six four percent of a worker's pay taken out, and as far as there's the employer contribution, which is also nine point six four percent. So if we were to suspend the payroll tax, get rid of it, waive it, let's say through December thirty first, that would increase the amount of pay workers received, and it would reduce the cost for hiring a worker by the employers. And you know, we'd find it very attractive to hire new workers and to retain the old workers that you've got, and the worker would find it very attractive to continue working. That's what I have been advocating, and that would have us bounce back very very quickly. But you know, giving an extra six hundred dollars to someone who's unemployed doesn't increase jobs. It really doesn't, Sean, and I wish it hadn't been put in there, but you know, they did it. It's done. It won't hurt the economy too much, but it will hurt the long run prospects. But my view is we're going to come out of this pandemic nicely soon and we're going to have a bounce back. The question is how high is it? And I think we can make it a lot higher. If I'm talking about we have to watch for a health rebound. For example, I think you would agree with me that there are parts of the country where the very low incidents of positive tests for COVID nineteen. You know, there is a part of our economy running that's you know, those are the truckers, those are the farmers, those are the people that are working in the grocery stores and the pharmacies, in the minimarts. You know, all of these people are up and out and working viewed quote is essential. And what I'm trying to understand is, Okay, what about that geographic part of the country that could fully and completely open up. Now, look at Nancy Pelosi is lecturing the president, you better not open up this economy too quickly. But she's saying it from the comfort of her gated mansion in San Francisco when she ought to be at work. Yeah. Well, you're completely right. What you're suggesting is profiling, and I agree with you entirely. There are certain areas of the country that don't have the problems like other areas. Why not let them start back to work sooner than the other areas. There's certain segments of the population that are very prone to coronavirus and it's deadly for them. Make them stay at home, make them keep their social distances. But those people who've already had the disease and have the antibodies, those people who are very low risk, why shouldn't they be allowed to go back to work, especially if they're in business as sean that don't have huge crowds or something like that. You know, you should profile businesses, you should profile people, You should profile regions to start up those areas that can start. I see no reason not to do that. The answer to me is testing, and we're lucky. Abbott has come up with a test that you can get results in five minutes. They're producing fifty thousand tests a day. If we would a mass produce those tests and the machinery along with it, I think you could use the Defense Production Act as part of this. Abbott would show other companies how to manufacture this. We could do it around the clock, and every for example, big building in New York can go out and buy five or ten of those testing machines and all right. This there'll be certain new normals temporarily at least where where people, for example, essential employees can start coming back in. Others can work from home. Those that do come back in, okay, maybe they're wearing masks and gloves, but maybe before they're even allowed in the building, they have their test administered privately by their company, and nobody gets in the building if they test positive for COD nineteen. You're perfectly sensible. I mean, that's thinking smart, and that's the way we should open up the economy by thinking smart, by not opening up those areas that are hugely high risk where mortality is high, but opening up those areas with people who don't have the disease or have the antibodies already in them. You're completely correct. We have and we're getting the facilities to be able to do that and do that correctly. And that's what I'd love to see us do. Do we have to open up everything so people are put together and old people who hide comorbidities. Now, of course not. But what you can do is make it open up to where people are productive, can go back to work and do much less damage to the economy. Let me just say one thing, Sean. You know, a poverty stricken economy is not a healthy place to be. Life expectancy under poverty is much lower than it is under prosperity and sacrifice in the economy in the hopes of saving lives is really a double edged sword. You not only can savatibly it lives, but the poverty will cost lives and will cost a lot of lives over a long time. Well, the FED chair Jerome Powell said yesterday the economy is an emergency, is deteriorating with alarming speed. And these remarks came after the Central Bank unveiled over two trillion to new loans to keep the economy afloat as much of the nation gets back into lockdown. My knowledge of the economy nowhere near the knowledge you have, tells me that would mean we're headed towards a predictably inflationary period of my own Well, it could be inflationary. I don't see that yet. But I don't see that, but I do see the sharp downturn. Now, whether that causes inflation will have to see. But right now there are no signs in the marketplace except for the very sharp price in the price of gold that would indicate that there's any inflation on the horizon. Okay, So if you were to get in the President's ear and I would like to see the task force. I know there's been talk about it. Have you talked to people in the White House and all your friends with Larry Cudlowe, have you spoken to him? Have you spoken to Manuchin? Have you spoken to the President? I haven't spoken to them in any of them in the last week, Okay. And what would you tell them if you spoke with them today? To me, I would tell them use the Defense Production Act and immediately create a manufacturing masterpiece of getting these toaster sized testing machines that Abbot created and crank out these tests in the tens of millions, so that everybody that wants to test their employees can test it and then confidently open up every building in the country if we want. I think that's a perfect idea. I think that's the first thing we should do, is make sure we get all the tests so we know what the facts are. It's really hard to propose solutions when you don't even know what the facts are. And I think your suggestion of getting everyone tested so we know who has it, we know who's immune to it, we know who is susceptible to it. I want to look at all of the age groups. For example, people sixty and over are far more prone to dying from it than our younger people. It has an age characteristic, it has a comorbidity characteristic, it even has a gender characteristic. I mean, there are all these things that you want to know. Shaunsey can make very good decisions and balance risk versus return out and you're a hundred parr give me your best prediction. It's going to be ugly. We already know the unemployment application number. That's ugly. What is third quarter GDP going to look like? And I'm sorry a second quarter? And more importantly, if we now begin the opening of the country May first, all right, second quarter is April, May, June. What will the third quarter July, August, September look like? Well, I think I think that quarter will look a lot better than the second quarter. I mean, the second quarter is going to be the hardest hit quarter my view of the economy. You're going to see a very sharp drop. I really wish people wouldn't put that at annual rates, because it's not going to be at an annual rate. If you have a drop of eight or nine percent in GDP, which is very possible in the second quarter, don't even think it's even possible to be higher than that. But we won't get back to where we were before for quite a while, don't you think it's going to be I would think higher than eight nine percent gdp D eight or nine percent on a quarterly basis. On an annual basis, that would be thirty plus percent, okay, would be thirty five percent would be if you dropped eight percent in the second quarter at an annual rate, that would be a drop of a thirty five percent, which is unsustainable for a year. And then Nancy Pelosi already you can see the Democrats. They're now saying they don't want to open the country, don't open it too quickly. And then on the other side of that, mount is saying we could have a depression because so many people are out of work. Well, if you're not, if you're not opening the country up, you're not going to improve the economic situation and you're gonna have more people looking to the government for an answer. All right, isn't it amazing? Hypocrisy knows no bounds, does it, Sean, I mean it is incredible. They complain that we're not doing enough about the thing, we should shut the contromy down more. And then they're complaining the Trump has an awful economy. I mean, you can't have it both ways, but they try to make it both ways. I think I think the President's going to come out of this very very very positively. Frankly, He's done a great job on the pandemic. He's a phenomenal leader. I think his polls are rising. I think I think if he handles this correctly from now on out and make sure he gets this economy going soon back with the right incentives, I think he could be liked in the landside. And the Republicans get the House and the Senate. All right, Art Laugher, do me a favor. Call all those people I mentioned. I want them to hear from you directly. I'm giving you up. I'm giving him. By the way, you didn't even know I was a big enough, a big fan of yours. Do you hear me mention your name with the president? That cracked me up. He said, people told me that, you know, I go to bed real early, so it's wrong with you. You're going to better own morning. And I heard that there was there. My daughter called me from California and everything like that. I said, oh my god, I missed it. I missed it, so thank you very much. It was really nice. Watching you, even if it was on a replay. I've been I've been a fan for a long time art laughing. I'm a fan of yours Sean. Thank you, sir, You're a great American. We need your voice. This is a price sis. This is no time for Donald Trump. It's record of hashterical xenophobia. China is going to eat our lunch. They're not bad folks. Both. Since the outbreak, the Communist Party has been motilizing overseas organizations to buy local supplies and send them to China. It is in our self interest that China continue to prosper. But a beautiful history we rode together. Banning all travel will not stop. President is right that travel restriction on China is Every public health official we've talked to you said Bock country time. That was a very smart move, rightobia xenophobia. I complimented him on dealing with China. I'm not going to nice and don't forget zero experience Hunter. Yeah, he got the one one and a half billion dollars Bank of China deal with zero experience. Again, he can't make it up. There is a COVID nineteen doctor who is discovering that people aren't dying from the virus, but with an immune reaction to it. He's going to explain what this is as we get to the medical side of this crisis. Coming up. Eight hundred and nine four one Sean is a toll free telephone number. Final half hour on this Friday. People should be more concerned right now with the flu in this country. A lot of people are concerned about the coronavirus because they're hearing a lot of news about it right now, But the reality is comparing it to the flu, for example, it's not even close to being at that stagent Sandia you were telling us the last hour. There's an important context need to keep this in, and that is that the flu is more deadly. Yeah, I mean, you know, this is one of the ironies I think that always comes up with this. Take a look at the numbers. How worried should Americans be about coronavirus? Coronavirus is not going to cause a major is the United States. Half of the people in America do not get a flu shot, and the flu right now is far deadlier. So if you're freaked out at all about the coronavirus, you should be more concerned about the flu and you can actually do something about and get a flu shot. There are tens of thousands of people who will die in the country or have. Some of them have already died, more are still going to die because of Donald Trump's incompetence and lack of leadership. Here we have a president who is exploiting a national crisis to move forward his own agenda, his own revenge, his own profit. But he's still acting reckless and unmoored. He still can't rise to the occasion. What we saw was a hijacking, hijacking of the task Force press conference by a president determined to right the history of his early and reprehensibly irresponsible responds to this virus. This was a nine to eleven level failure of the federal government. It was it needs to be talked about and covered and scrutinized that way. Here in the United States, we are still not doing what we need to do to fight this deadly virus because of a complete lack of leadership. Right, there's the mob, there's the media. Eight hundred and ninety four one shot. You know where the failures start out. It's the pointing of the fingers is just insane, but it is what it is, and it's predictable as the day is long. Now there is a doctor Thomas Jetegar is his name, and he's the Medical Director of ICU, Medical Director of Hospitalist Services, Command leader for the COVID team at Providence eder Sinai Medical Center, practicing pulmonary critical care doctor for over twenty years. And I noticed that he had been on Fox and Friends earlier this week, and what he has discovered is that what his suspicion was that a majority of nineteen patients, the ones that we're dying, we're not dying from the virus itself, but from the activation of the person's own immune system and a rare syndrome that has been emerging. And it occurs in a subset of patients, small subset with COVID nineteen. Anyway, doctor Yetigar is with us. Sarah, how are you? Thank you for joining us, and uh, well, thank you for what you do every day. Also, Hi, Sean, thank you so much for having me. Well, it's interesting that you're saying this because my sister has a very close friend getting very good care in a hospital. Even has been on hydroxy chloroquin and zithromax and zinc. That's part of the hospital protocol. I won't mention the hospital, but even with it, she's been struggling and they finally ended up intubating her. And what they kept coming back with was well, and she had underlying health issues I won't mention on the air. Not nothing serious, but complications. And what they noticed is the immune response is what they kept coming back to. Is this exactly what you're talking about, yes, Sean, This is exactly in the patients that I had where they had difficulty as well. This was exactly what we found is that it was really their immune system that had been hyperactivated and instead of you know, trying to kill the virus, now it's doing damage to the organs themselves. All right, So explain what actually happens. In other words, this is a very small subset of people that have COVID nineteen. Correct. Yes, Not everyone that gets COVID nineteen develops the syndrome. It's only a subset of patients where the virus activates the immune system, and unfortunately the immune system, instead of healing the body, is now starting to hurt the body. Okay, so what is the way now when you've treated these patients you've developed the guideline for this, and your guideline works. What is it? So? The guideline is really based on very closely following the disease pattern of COVID. What we find is that there's a certain markers. These markers are checked by everyone. Unfortunately, I think a lot of people are checking a lot of markers. Some of the markers are helpful, some of the markers could be very confusing. You have to pick out the ones that are important which will kind of sound off the alarm of what's happening in the patient's body. The syndrome is very hard to detect. It's very elusive. All of our normal things that we check, all of the normal blood tests that we check, the normal X rays that we check, these don't help you in finding and diagnosing this disease. The first thing the colinician needs to do is, you know, make sure first of all that there isn't something else going on, so that there isn't a patient that isn't having a back to your ow pneumonia or having septic shock or some other reason. Once you've made sure that there isn't another reason for the patient getting sicker and sicker and sicker. Then you have to think about this disease. If you don't think about it, you're not going to find it and you're not going to treat it appropriately. Well, okay, so once you catch this, for example, I'm going to put you in touch with my sister because she's, you know, been she's a nurse herself. And I don't think this has been as clearly identified as as you are identifying it. But you have in your twenty years of intensive care practice, you never even thought about it, and so you can understand why other doctors are not thinking about this either. How do you deal with it when you see it because you're saving lives because of this knowledge. Yeah, so exactly. And then the treatment is really counterintuitive. Typically in the U, we want the immune system to be strong, we want it to be active. We want to make sure that patients don't get it in the infections in the ICU, because that's one of the leading causes of death for our patient that's in the ICU. But in this case, for this syndrome to heal such patients, you really need to suppress their immune system by giving them very very strong I mean the suppressive medications. Okay, and you know specifically what they are, correct, I do, I do know what they are. They're out there, people are using them. You know, we're waiting for well controlled, randomized studies to come up so that we can arrange for a protocol. But at this time, you know, when you have a dying patient in front of you, you try to do your best to save them. Yeah, I mean it's scary. You know, one of the things everyone was so hung up on, Get the ventilators, Get the ventilators, get the ventilators, you get to the intubation part that that's not the moment you want to be at. You want to mitigate people getting on that as much as possible. Exactly exactly for this syndrome, you got to catch it early and then you got to treat it aggressively early enough in the disease. If you wait long enough, you know you're not going to get to it. Yeah, what are your thoughts on hydroxy chloricual And you've been watching the debate go on around the country, what are your thoughts? You know, I don't really have enough experience to give it one way or another. I know there's a lot of controls that eas that are being done and then you know, like like everyone else, I'm waiting to see my overall feeling. Though it probably does work for a subset of patients. If you think of a cytokine storm, think of it as like a tornado. So maybe if it's before a level one tornado, you can probably catch it off and slow it down. If it's a level five tornado that's coming at you, you need much more immun a suppressive medication. It's probably not strong enough. All right, Doctor Jaded Garth, thank you so much for what you're doing. Thanks for being one of us. Thank you for sharing this information so people if they're seeing this specific subset reaction of somebody that they know, love, care about that is dealing with COVID nineteen, it will be helpful. Thank you so much. Thank you for having me. Sean Okay eight hundred nine four one, Sean, if you want to be a part of the program, all right, let's get to our phones on this Friday, all right, let's say hi to Bill as a New Jersey Bill, Hi, how are you and welcome to the program. Happy. Well, it's good Friday today, Easter Sunday and passover as well. How are you good? How are you sean happy Easter? Thank you, sir, Happy Easter. I used to work for Novartis Pharmaceuticals out they had a plant out and suffering, and they we manufactured everything from like Diavan for blood pressure to this courtem that they sent over to Africa for malaria patients. And it was right up in Suffer, New York, which isn't that far outside of New York City and the places there since nineteen sixty six. And they closed it back down back in like twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen. H sent everything overseas because of the tax, the corporate taxes they were paying in New York State. Um. They they're such ironic that they were. This place was open twenty four hours a day, seven days a week. We ran twelve hours shifts and I was on the courtem line for quite a while as a mechanic. And they sent you know, we all lost their jobs, like five hundred and something people. They sent it overseas, and and you know now they're like trying to get the stuff. I don't know if there's a backlog on it, but they could have had it right right up the street. It's ironic, you know. Well, no, Vartes said, they're going to give one hundred and thirty million doses of hydroxy chloroquin to people and to the country. We already have thirty million doses that are being you know, given out day and night. So yeah, I think for the country. Look, the mobile is it? I mean, this is the irony of shutting down the country. Okay, we still want our pharmacy's filled, We want our grocery stores stocked and filled. We want to be able to go to lows and home depot and we want to go pick up supplies. And people are out there doing all those things. But we're saying, but everyone else can't work. It is madness at this point. And you know, listening to the ever lecturing Nancy Pelosi, you know, cordoned off in the confines of our multi million dollar mansion in a gated community in San Francisco, saying she's not they're not going back to work? In Congress, why not if the truckers are working, and the farmers are working, and the store clerks are working, and everybody else is stocking the shelves, why can't she got back to work? Unbelievable. Well, we might hit a depression Oh, then what are you doing in San Francisco? How about getting back to Washington and fixing it? Helping? But no, they're too busy putting together the latest Shift show investigation of Donald Trump. It is unbelievable. Anyway, eight hundred and ninety four one, Sean, if you want to be a part of the program, Thanks Bill. Let's say hi to Attila in Wisconsin. Hey, Attila, how are you? Hey, Sean? How are you doing today? I'm good, sir, how are you today? Great? Before I make my point, I want to ask you a question. Is withholding aid only an impeachable offense if it concerns any country but America? Withholding aid meaning to like the who meaning the Democrats? Withholding aid to you mean, oh, holding up the aid for displaced Americans their relief packets so they can fund the Kennedy for the Arts Performing Arts Center in the National ENDOWMO for Humanities and National ENDOWMO for the Arts. And then they want to change immigration and election law. Do you mean that that group of people? Yeah, that's Nancy Pelosi. You're conducting a self serving quit pro quoal and by their own admission, these snapper heads are conducting an impeachable offense right in front of everybody. They're withholding aid for America and they don't see a problem with that. It's only Ukraine, and the president didn't he was exonerated. But they think it's just dandy though, withhold aid from Americans in a crucial time, just so they could get their Democrat wish list. I would tell you something. They quit and they pro and they quote all the time. That's how Washington works. What an irony. Great point. Jim in Connecticut, Jim, how are you, Sean, I'm fine, my friend, how are you. I'm hanging in there. This is I want to get this country up and running now. I'm getting very anxious about him. Well, you know, before I make my point as well, I just want you to know that you're a great American, you and Rush and Mark and all you guys for the hard work you dook bringing the truth. You know, the mob in the media is too busy, you know, hating on Donald Trump every second of every day. And I'm sick of that too. And I'm sick of getting lectures from Nancy Pelosi also from the from the you know, her press releases from her mansion. I'm sick of it, get back to work, Nancy. Yeah, my god, it makes me sick when I hear him say the things. And I guarantee you, and I'm a nursing Connecticut. And last this past Saturday, I was positive for COVID nineteen and I had a few a couple of rough days. And first, I'm sorry about that. How are you doing well, Sean? That's okay, I'm fine. I did a video appointment with my doctor and ask Timithy who had put me on plaque winnell, and he did. And since I started it two days ago, I'm feeling so much better. So Plaquinnell, by the way, for those that don't know, is hydroxy chlora quinn Right. Well, first of all, you know if you lived in New York, you wouldn't be able to get that medicine if you lived in New York. And last, you went to a hospital, which is the last place you need to be right now, because you're not that sick yet, and the plaque winnow is going to help you. That is absolutely crazy. And I guarantee you. I guarantee that if morning blow Hole Joe and his wife Mishka and Rachel Clinton Maddow even thought they had contracted disease, they would be knocking people down in line and have their hand out to get the medicine first, even though they say it doesn't work and don't use it. You know, they are actually hurting people and what they're doing and what they're saying, And they have absolutely no conscience, no empathy, no sympathy for any American. They are all out for themselves. Look, you know, first of all, listen, you are smart to talk to your doctor. Make sure you stay in touch with your doctor. You did this in consultation with your doctor, and I recommend that for everybody. But you know, all these nurses and doctors and medical professionals, even the janitors in the hospital, they're all putting their lives at risk here to get this thing. Thank you for what you do. Get a speedy recovery. I know you're probably going to be back on the front lines immediately thereafter if you need any help or anything, or any of our doctors will put you in touch with them if you need any helper, right best. And I can only imagine what this country would be going through if we didn't have Donald Trump in the White House right now. If we had. All he does is get a handful of crap from the mob and the Democrats. It's all we get. Now we got another we got a corona and virus investigation in the middle of the pandemic. We're going to start the investigation. That's where their mind is at. And then lecturing about depressions. But you can't open up the economy. It's it's insane. This is a form of insanity. All right. That's gonna wrap things up for today. It is good Friday. I know it's Easter on Sunday, and I don't know. It's gonna be a little difficult. Families won't be getting together the way they usually do. And but you know what, we have so much to be thankful for. We've got the greatest medical scientists in the world. We got the best doctors, the best nurses. The government has done their job. Now let's think about you know what is Easter about. It's about rising Jesus and coming back to life, and he paid the ultimate sacrifice for the world. And this renewal that is Easter we needed now, an American renewal and safe opening of our country. That's my prayer for everybody. This Easter, and everyone says say. Everybody stays safe and healthy, have a great Easter. We'll see you back here on Monday.