Sean Bigley, a partner with Bigley Ranish, LLP, joins Sean to discuss the special Federal Security Clearance Defense that was granted to his client, Adam Lovinger. Lovinger, who lost his security clearance after Stefan Halper complained about him, had his life ruined because of his efforts to protect American taxpayers. This is a must-hear story about pure government waste and the damage that can happen if you try and stand up to the Deep State. The Sean Hannity Show is on weekdays from 3 pm to 6 pm ET on iHeartRadio and Hannity.com.
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And if somebody is to retain would like to retain their security clearance, they must act in a manner that is consistent with how a current CIA employee would act. Now is John Brennan, with all of his inflammatory rhetoric, uh, in any way acting like any CIA employee that you know. No, does he deserve to lose his clearance? Yes? Should he really be asking how he ever got a clearance in the first place? Yeah, I think that's a probably a really good question. And how is it if you want to just look at, you know, the deep state and what a lot of what we have exposed has been proven true to all of you. We've got James Comey fired, McCabe fired. That's the director and the deputy director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation. Again, I'm not I'm not talking. Don't rank really rank and file guys. None of them are gone. Now that's the interesting part of this, And what they tell me privately is is minded me they want to get to the bottom of all this more than anybody. Then you can add to departures, Peter Struck fired, Lisa pay resigned, James Ribeki resigned, James Baker resigned, and there are others. But all told, then when you look at FBI, either firings, uh departures or demotions, I can name twenty five top officials. This because the evidence is overwhelming and it's incontrovertible. You know, look at the d O. J. Sally Yates fired bruce Or, Deputy Associate Deputy Attorney General, fourth in line, fourth highest ranking official the d o J. He's demoted twice, and the President rightly will bruce Or, whose family received big money for helping create the phony, dirty, discredited Russian dossier ever be fired from the Jeff Sessions Justice Department, and Trump rightly writes a total joke. It's not a joke. That's the problem. The problem is it's corruption. There's enough evidence here at this point with what we point it out last week and the correspondence with Christopher Steele, both before and after the election, Before and after the firings of Christopher Steele, before Steele testified that he wouldn't even stand by his own dossie, they were still pushing this bony thing and and using it a to stop Trump from getting elected, be to hurt the incoming administration, and see really just to take him down, and they were they were conspiring to do so. We've got the emails. Why do you think that Christopher Steele was so afraid of quote and this is from last week being exposed and hoping the firewalls hold up that he was discussing we got twenty five high ranking FBI and d o J departures, firings to motions. It's all happening. And one of the big things that people are saying, well, what about brennanan Well, frankly, anybody that's fired ought to lose their security clearance. And you're saying, well, Hannity, why would you do that? What if we ever need them, Well, we could always reinstate it. Number one, But number two, I don't think this president is ever going to ever want the advice of John Brennan, James Comey, Andrew McCabe or Peter Struck or Sally Yates. Let's be honest here. And it's and and the idea that this has happened before but was never reported on is also a big issue now. One of there was a great exchange on fake news CNN. I know it sounds like a contradiction. It was a great exchange because I never saw anybody this is Look, I've watched this guy just it's just angry anti Trumper Phil mud And anyway, there's a guy by the name of Paris Denard. We should get him on the radio program. I don't know, I guess he has he worked for CNN fake news. I mean he tore this guy apart, not once, not twice, not three times. He points out that in the private sector that having a security clearance is worth a lot of money, and he directly asked fil Mud about it, and film at three separate times turns it into I've never ever indignant, outraged, I've never used this for any governmental contract. And he keeps saying, I didn't ask you about a government contract. Now I don't know anything about what film Mud does or doesn't do. If he has a consulting from it's neither here nor there. But if you want to talk about this show being ahead of the curve, well remember last week we took time out of our busy schedule to tell you about a pretty important book. And it's called Compromised. And this is put out by the Government Accountability Institute. They're the same people, Peter Schweitzer's group that were involved in exposing so much about the Clintons, so much about what we then built on as it worked for uranium one. You know, imagine this. We actually we actually got to the eyewitness and the FBI that was inside Putin's networking side the United States bribing, extorting, money laundering, racketeering, all of that, and the informant saw it and reported on it. Who was the FBI director at the time, Robert Mueller. And in the meantime, all those crimes were being committed, the FBI is being told about it, and yet they're continued to allow to operate inside the United States and they're successful. The whole purpose was to get there, you know, for Putent's thugs in the United States, to get their greedy hands on America's uranium, so that which is the foundational material for nuclear weapons. And we're told but none of it ever left the country. Well that turned out to be a total croc also because that wasn't true. But what Paris den Hard is saying in this debate, I'm gonna play it here, and i want you to keep one thing in mind is that security clearances are worth money. And by the way, and I'm not necessarily against it. You know, you build up a certain amount of sacrifice your government. You work for the government. There's literally for many people, they make a lot more in the in the private sector. For me, these the numbers sound pretty outrageous to me. But I'm not against the idea of people getting outside of government using their professionalism, the experience they have garnered to get into the private sector and make money. I'm a capitalist. But we do know that James Comey's net worth, according to Compromise this book, How Money and Politics Drive FBI Corruption, that his networth skyrocketed four thousand percent between leaving the d J and two thousand and five and returning in two thousand and thirteen. One thing that caught my eyes in this and we discussed it last week. Again we're ahead of the curb because now are these security clearances worth something? Yeah? And call Me made six point one million dollars after Muller's FBI granted Comey's employer, In other words, that the ones paying him Lockheed Martin, largest contractor in history, a billion dollar boondoggle, and under Muller's direction, the FBI granted multiple spy contracts to Lockheed Martin while call Me advised them on the legality of the operations. Call Me also, according to the book, got another six million dollars working for one of the world's largest hedge funds, and an additional five thousand dollars for a quote unused vacation time, and then it goes into Muller. You know, he cashed in as well. And in twenty thirteen, when Comey took over the FBI, on Mueller left to start a consulting firm made more than three and a half million dollars a year and giving speeches representing clients who had previously UH enriched as FBI director. Look, and I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it. This revolving door and government is what it is. I don't like it, just generally if the stench goes to high heaven. But the fact that we keep getting intertwined between these two and others is beyond the coincidence to me and troubling in light of where we now are with the deep state. But just listen, this is this guy, Paris de nard Is is right by the way. I didn't watch Fake Newcy and then I saw it on mediaite. I was reading, you know this media it's one of these websites that chronicles, you know, all the all the intramural fights and moments on cable news, which then they do a good job. Anyway, here's the exchange. A lot of these people that have these security clearances and this is the secret and and the swampy Washton d C. They have them and they keep them because it's profitable for them after they leave government. Because if you have a security clearance, especially high level security clearances, your contracts and your consulting gift pay you a lot more money because of the access that you have. I hope the President continues to do this, and I hope he adds i'm Rosa to the list because if she has a clearance, she too, because of her actions, should have it revoked. Well, I don't know if I put m Rossa in the same category of people signed those letters but filmed. I imagine you want to react profitable Paris. When I am requested to sit on an advisor board, let me ask you one question. How much do you think I'm paid to do that? At the requestion to the US with the request of the government, and you got ten seconds? How much I'll give I'll ask you a question. How much are you paid for your answer the question? And gig for for being a for They have no contracts with the U. S Government that pay more. I'm not talking here, and this is the thing I'm not talking about Zerial that's beyond this. I'm not talking about your role with the federal government. I'm talking about that insultant and a contractor, the consulting firms that they form and that you all get is because you get more money when having a consultant before having the security class like that doesn't happen. I have zero consulting relationship to with the US government. Zero. I'm not talking field. That's a good talking point. I'm not talking about relationship with the government. I'm talking about in the private sector. When you have a security fans and you keep the relationships with the private sector that involved my security clearance zero. I get zero dollars from consulting companies that deal with US government. Are we clear? Well, I will be clear and saying that everybody in Washington, d c. Knows. If you don't want to be honest about it, that's on you, alright. So the point is that maybe filled Mont doesn't, but certainly this book compromises pointing out that Comey does, and that all these other people, because of their background, experience, and yes, their security clearance. Yeah, they've all they've all benefited. I gotta so I think that that was a great that nobody else is picked up on this. This book is really full of yeah, follow the money type of information. Now, I guess if these guys were friends with Donald Trump, that they probably could expect Robert Mueller to be knocking on their door and asking a bunch of questions. And if they paid taxes on it. And in two thousand and five, by the way, we still have no verdict in the Mullard and the Mantaphor case. Third straight day of deliberations. Linda and I disagree on this point. I think I think that they only asked what, no, no, you know what, you're right, say that it's for Pette thought I didn't hear it is every Do you want to hear the breaking news sounder? Jason, Yeah, And I think, no, we don't need the breaking news sounder. Just say it again. I'm always right, go ahead. Lynda McLaughlan is admitting that Sean Hannity on his own show is right. Well, no, because I said, because you had said to me Friday, Linda, I will put this out ahead of time. You said that you thought, no way man off, it's going to get a conviction, and I said, the odds are against him. If there's there's six women and they're six men. And if they're gonna be honest, and they're literally just looking at the evidence, which I know it's hard to put a side personal bias, he's gonna walk. The only thing we didn't see is the follow the money charts. That's the only then, by the way, that that's a key part of this. And you were also right that they only asked this a good day for you. It's very good Monday. They only asked ones for that. Yeah, the questions that they asked was about reasonable doubt which happened on day so far off deliberations and they may go into the night tonight if they think their vacation on the financial interests into farm bank accounts. All right, we got that. Okay, it was talking, But all right, I have to go to a break. I have to tell everybody about oh you do okay, public life. You can reclaim it. You can't reclaim anything. It's Sean Hannity shop. For decades, credit cards have been telling us buy it now and pay for it later with interest, despite your best intentions, that interest can get out of control fast. With Learning Club, you can consolidate your debt or pay off credit cards with one fixed monthly payment. Since two thousand seven, Learning Club has helped millions of people regain control of their finances with affordable, fixed rate personal loans. No trips to a bank, no high interest credit cards. 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I don't know why would they have ever waived attorney client privilege and by the way, only the president can wave it, not as lawyers. And they decided to hand over. They wanted to be cooperative with Mueller a lot of and I know there was talk, oh, it's all gonna be over by Thanksgiving of last year. Now we'll be lucky if it's over by Thanksgiving. It this year, then it was gonna be over by Christmas, then right after the New year, then March, then May, and here we are. But the fact that in the article, I mean ethically, I just cannot understand, you know, this is this is not only the office of the President, but it is the President's Council, and um, why that would ever be waived is it's unimaginable to me. And that, you know, McCann goes on to give thirty hours of testimony to Robert Muller and his team out there is another sign of this that maybe strategically, maybe they're smarter than I am, because that has never happened before. And you know, maybe maybe that's the interview that they got. They don't get the president, they got his lawyer because the only reason at this point that I could ever see Mueller wanting the president and is to find well, what are your thoughts on firing? It doesn't matter what his thoughts are. If he got a full accounting from the president's attorney, well that's gotta be the president's accounting. And by the way, if if they're bringing them in because they set a perjury trap, well what you said is different than what you're a lawyer said. Well, this is what Rudy was saying. It'll be the special counsel. If there are two versions of events, they will decide which one they think is the truth. That's what Rudy was saying to the top of the hour. Remember FBI departures, call me fired, McCabe fired, Struck fired, Page demoted, sign Rebecki resigned, Baker resigned. In total, then you've got the DOJ departure, Sally Yates fired or demoted twice, and so many other high profile people in total that are now out. And then yeah, this guy Paris ton Art is right that, yeah, there is there is a value on the open market as it relates to the marketability of a security clearance, because you know, that's the only way that James Comey can represent or be a part of a group that represents Lockheed Martin and can go to to Muller and and offer his recommendations about, you know, how to look at the legality of bidding for you know, contracts with the government as it relates to what the FBI is spending on spy material, etcetera. And I'm not saying does any necessarily anything the farious in it, but there is a revolving door issue here. And you know, if you're fired, why wouldn't you lose your security clearance? I, for the life of me don't understand, except unless the thinking of Cobb, Thie Cobb, and John Dowd were that, Okay, if we give you one point four million documents and we also allow the White House Council to speak to you for thirty hours, then that basically he's speaking for the president because he's the president's attorney. I just but for me, ethnically, it's problematic, well beyond a privilege issue now, and I don't see why anybody would waive that privilege. And if you go back and passed instances, I mean that would never have happened with Clinton lawyers, and um, you know McGann literally has his loyalty to act in his client's best interest at all times. So why they would waive this privilege. I don't know the president in his official capacity as his client. And according to the article, mccannon his own lawyer, and his lawyers suspected, well, maybe they were making him the fall guy, and they devised their own strategy that was in the best interest of Don McGann. At least, if you believe the New York Times, Mueller probably was, you know, barred from eliciting or receiving this information from McGann. And as well as knowing McGann was the president's lawyer. I mean, there actually is an a B, A formal opinion my friend David Shoone sent me over the weekend that probably applies right onto this and would have prohibited McGann and Muller from ever engaging in this conduct. And then it raises questions about what did Don McGann say. But if it's used to say, well, you talk to the president's attorney. We gave you one point four million documents. This is look at the team. It's there's no evidence of any Russia collusion. And if you're trying to create a perjury trap for the president. Basically, if he says one thing that contradicts what Don McGann does, says, well, who's the one that decides which version is correct? And this is where Rudy got into a little bit of maybe it was inarticulate, but inarticulate in the sense that it was very legalistic what he was saying. He actually used the phrase truth isn't the truth. What he was saying is, you have two versions of testimony that will be given to the special counsel on say, any given issue. Who decides what version is right or what version is truth? And what version is it? It would be the special counsel would make that decision if there was a conflict, and so you know his years as a prosecutor. That was what Rudy was referring to. They will be the ones that decide who they decided to believe it. But we already know that prejudice against the president. We already know they don't like the president. It was inarticulate. I'm not gonna sit there and defended, but I think but he was speaking more legal jargon too. I guess Chucky Little Todd over there at uh Conspiracy TV. He will never be Tim Russet ever. Might have the show, but he won't be Tim Russert. It was an original, amazing man. I loved Tim russur Um, I'm gonna have to be rushed into having him testified, why so that he gets trapped into perjury. And when you tell me he's you're testified because he's gonna tell the truth that he shouldn't worry. Well, that's silly, Rudy said, because it's somebody's version of the truth, not the truth. And in other words, truth is truth, Chuck Todd said, And he said, no, it's not. Now Juliannie was saying, and he said, truth isn't the truth, Mr Mayor, the truth is the truth. This is going to be, you know, bad for you. And he's like running, And in a sense he's right. But what he's saying in this statement is very clear to me and I think would be clear to most lawyers. What he's saying here is that, Okay, if there are conflicting versions of a story, big items, small item, it doesn't matter. If you're under oath and you say something that conflicts with what the lawyer said, they are going to be the ones that make the determination of who they believe and which one they believe is telling the truth. Now, maybe maybe they're both wrong. Maybe it's somewhere in the middle where the actual truth lies. But I'm assuming McGann when he speaks under oath is speaking the truth, as I would suspect the President would be. Um And then Julianni respond he said, you know, he said I didn't talk about Flynn with Comey. Comey says, you did talk about it, So what's the truth there? And I thought that was a pretty good comeback on Julianni part. They have two pieces of evidence, Julianni said of Mueller's team, Trump says, well, I didn't tell them. The other guy says he did say it, which is the truth. Maybe you know, because you're a genius. But that's the point is that would be the special counsel that would decide what they ascertained to be the truth. And they have a pre judgment and a bias against Donald Trump. What they don't like what Donald Trump is doing. I mean, the President went on a tear this weekend that this is Mueller's team as a national disgrace and frankly, any team that would hire Andrew Weisman as a national disgrace. How do you hire a guy with his track record? How do you hire a guy that lost nine oh in the Supreme Court that cost tens of thousands of fellow Americans their job and the Anderson accounting issue that literally put four innocent people from Maryland jail for a year that was overturned by the Fifth Circuit. Who loses nine hero in the Supreme Court? Not many people, and that's part of his team. And by the way, what what does any of this have to do with what Paul Maniford has been charged with? I find it fascinating. It is this now goes. You know, if they wrap up like they did on Friday at five o'clock, this will be three full days no verdict in the Manaphort case. I'm not I'm not reading into anything here. Let me be very clear. The odds for Manafort are not good. But you have to see this for what it is, and that was he was singled out for one reason is that he worked for Trump. The judge in the case knew it. The judge said, look, let's let's not kid ourselves here. We all know what this is about. You don't really care about Paul Manaforts tax issues. You're putting the screws to him, so he sings or composes as it relates to Donald Trump, so you can prosecutor impeach the president. Let's just be honest about what it is happening. The judge was right in this particular case. People wondering, well, why was that. Why was Judge Ellis tough on the prosecution because he sees through this he was singled out to be prosecuted for the purpose of putting the screws to him. Manafort, you know, has that I have nothing to say about what you're looking for. He worked for the president like a hundred days, and so they brought up this old tax and loan issued case or whatever. So that's what you know. This is that this isn't justice. And meanwhile, it has nothing to do with Russia, nothing nothing to do with collusion, It has nothing to do with Donald Trump, it has nothing to do with the campaign in the election. So then you must ask yourself. Remember, the judge made a big deal about wanting to see Rod Rosenstein's mandate, and the mandate is so broad that it includes a two thousand five tax case. Well, that means basically anybody can be indicted it through the Special Council, and nobody's really paying a lot of attention as he's now literally, you know, handing out work all over the place, you know, ferreting out this one and that one, and you know, it's just unbelievable. Okay, where well, where's the Russia collusion in this? Well, we do know that Russian misinformation, Russian propaganda, Russian lies. We're paid for by Hillary and the d n C, whose finances she controlled. According to Donna Brazil, they funneled the money through a law firm they fired, hired Fusion GPS Glenn Simpson his group, and then they hired Christopher Steele. Christopher Steel is also being paid by the FBI. And we know that Christopher Steele didn't even believe in his own dossier. We've come to find out. We find out that under oath, under the threat of perjury, and great Brittany said, uh, I'd listen, this is raw intelligence. I have no idea if any of this is true. Fifty fifty maybe I don't know. Okay, then how did it possibly become the basis of four fights A warrants and how did they not verify it and how did they not corroborate it? And how did they not tell the judge or the four judges and the original application, three subsequent applications, Hillary paid for it. How is it that Hillary got off when it's the biggest lamb dunk obstruction of justice case we've ever seen in history and a clear violation of the Espionage Act. How did all that happen? And what we're discovering is that's why the people that have either resigned, have been demoted or fired from the FBI and the d o J. It's it's not by accident that these people have been exposed. And what are we finding fix was in for Hillary? That Hillary like she rigged the primary against poor Bernie Sanders. Nobody ever seems to care. I care. I don't know why. I just think in America, rigging primary shouldn't happen. And then they you then Hillary tried to do in the general election. She pays for these Russian lies. The Russian lines are disseminated through the America to the American people, this phony witch hunt begins, and all these people in all these different spots that we we interconnected all this. We have Russian influence, it was actually bought and paid for. We have FISA core judges that were that a fraud was committed on them. We've got it all. We have Christopher steel On the fourth highest ranking twice demoted. Bruce Or when is he ever gonna be fired? We have a communication stream back and forth before the election, after the election. I hope the firewalls hold. And uh boy, I'm getting a little nervous here. I'm worried we might be exposed. And you go to Struck and Page and all that corruption. I mean, it stinks to hide. I haven't want any of these people have any security clearances. So the President's piste off, When is Bruce or going to be fired? You know? When is uh? When is Jeff Sessions Justice Department gonna fire him? Remember Bruce Or he's talking to steal about the dossier. Stealer had already been fired from the FBI. He's fired from the FBI. But the bulk of the FISA warrants are steals, dossier Russian lines. And yet we're dealing with the two thousand whatever tax case of Poe Manafort. No Russia, none, no, collusion none, no Trump none, no campaign nothing. This is what it's all become. And this is equal justice under the law. This is equal application of our laws. Now this is a travesty. This is a witch hunt. I don't blame the president for being piste off. He has every right to be piste off at this point. And it keeps going on and on and on, and then his own attorney, the White House Council is talking to Mueller, and then it gets into and and John Brennan can say whatever he wants about the President of the United States, no ramifications with his security clearance. And that was the case. People are trying to make you know, where is the evidence of collusion, But we got collusion. Somebody paid for Russian lines and used Russian lines to get a FISA warrant four times. These unbelievable times we're living at. You have a former top defense official. This was on Fox News Sunday, Admiral Michael Mullen. You know, risk damaging Brennan was risking damaging America's intelligence community with his anti Trump comments. Even Brennan said, he's away over the top. You know, we've got remember back the Weekly Standard November. They pointed out that it was Brennan that tried to what no, no, Now we know he lied to the Senate and Tell Committee as well as the American people about spying and and so on and so forth, and illegally spied on the Senate Intelligence Committee issue of teen. Brennan but actually tried to silence the heroes of Benghazi, keeping them from telling the truth about what happened over there, because he was afraid it would expose the Obama administrations and Hillary's big Benghazi cover up. Remember, they wanted these guys, forced them to sign non disclosure agreements. By the way, even the Washington Post people forget July thirty one, fourteen, they called for Brennan to be fired. Interesting quote, you know the accusation. Washington Post points out that John Brennan was asked by Andrew Mitchell whether the CIA had illegally access Senate Intelligence Committee staff computers to thwart an investigation by the committee into the agency's passed interrogation techniques. Accusation had been made earlier in the day by Diane Feinstein, who said that the CIA violated separation of powers principle. Brennan said, as far as the allegations, you know, CIA hacking Senate computers. Nothing could be further from the truth. Should surprise nobody. When the truth came out, Brennan was exposed as a liar. And it goes on and on, like, are we the only people that don't do any investigative reporting? You're not a reporter, Hannah. We yeah, we do reporting a lot more than they do. By the way, sixty one people shot over the weekend in Chicago. What are we doing? When is that going to be fixed? I can't believe this is allowed to continue in this great country. It's unbelievable to me. I've got to protect the people in Chicago. Is that so hard to understand? Put the resources on the ground. Dead fish isn't gonna do it. So John Brennan's threatening to Sue. Okay, Sue. I love to get you know, Discovery into his emails, etcetera. Text messages, all right, New Gingrich, Sarah Gregg much more. In an exclusive interview, coming up, I clad you with us our too, right down our toll free number. It's eight hundred nine four one, seawn if you want to be a part of the program. I pointed out that Don McGann, the White House Council. It's I can't even fathom why this happened, but it did. Um although there's been I have known about this for a period of time. Uh that he had even some thirty hours of testimony as it relates to what he saw and heard in the White House. The White House handed over one point four million documents as it relates to those witch hunt. Now, the White House Special Counsel represents the President and the office, and he gave thirty hours a testimony. But with that said, uh, new king Rich who joins us now, I think rightly points out, well now that there's no no of the heat testified the president's lawyer for thirty hours. There's no reason at all for Muller to even ask to interview the President, which I think is a thousand percent right. The only reason Mr Speaker would be to me, it seems that it would be a perjury travel Well, your lawyer said this, and you say that, and one of yours are lying, and we're going to determine who the lawar is. I think it's up to three mounts New class mourners yesterday who were just astounded by New York Times article and thought that it clearly indicated the end of all right, we're having about a hard time hearing you. I don't know. Are you want a Sports Illustrated football phone? I'm just asking. We don't have to remember they used to give out the we're gonna reconnect with you. Hang on, we'll see if we can get a better line. Remember Sports Illustrated years ago. If your order of subscription, we'll send you this really cool football phone. And I'm like, okay, who wants then you? Who wants a football phone? Well? I guess probably Jason is the biggest n of ELSA. But you know I don't want a football phone or sneaker phone. None of those craps get or get smartphone only. Yeah, well listen, or maybe a Dick Tracy watch that you can talk into, which, by the way, we actually now have it's called uh an I watch, or want to be preferable to a sneaker phone? Now that's true? All right? Do we get the speaker back? Are you calling? Now? We gotta get a better line for this. Did you want to talk to me about No? I don't. Actually, I'm just wishing you'd dial faster because I'm done talking about football phones, but I can I can fill the gap because the president with the NFL going down, I doubt they would give those. I can't even you know, I'm trying to watch this year. I can't excuse me. I'm sorry, I have the guests. Lady, go ahead, go ahead, Mr Speaker. Okay, you think Muller has nothing now after the cooperation? Go ahead? No, Well, what I was focused. I'm not a lawyers, you know, I'm a historian. But the three lawyers I constall him with yesterday all said, I just flat out when when you give up executive privilege, which the president did, and you give up lawyer confidentiality, which the president did, and your top attorney, who's the guy who was in the room all the time spends you think about this thirty hours talking to Moore's team and saying to them, based on the New York Times coverage, that as a lawyer, he did not believe Trump did anything illegal. Now at point, what's Moller's case for just not closing up shop, writing a report and going home. I mean, this is over. Not only only a crazy fanatically Brennan, I would think that there's anything left in this story and the truth is that the time has come to just close it down, to go home. Realized that it was a dry hold. There ain't nothing there, and they're never gonna get Donald Trump in these issues. You've lived through this. How many ethical charges were thrown at you? And I think all but once you know, and even that one, I think eventually was thrown out. How many total, well, I had. I had eighty three Athletics Committee charges we beat eighty two three was the lawyer a letter my lawyer had written that was technically wrong, but it was my fault because I did sign it, but it was written by the lawyer. That's the only thing out of AD three. I then an attacked by the Internal Revenue Service under Bill Clinton, and an attacked by the Federal Election Commission. And after two years you're fighting in court. We weren't both of those, And the judges in fact chastise both the i r S and the FEC and said that they were clearly false attacks done for political purpose. By the way, I've had the same thing happened in my life. I wonder if this is a coincidence. And then you spend how many thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars and lawyers fees. There's no choice, there's no option, and uh and after that, But what it does is it effectively distracts you and prevents you from putting your full focus on the job you have. Mueller has been at this, you know since what April of seventeen. I think it's you know, high time or sixteen whatever it was, now seventeen, I mean, it's high time this goes away. It's a year and a half. What does he have. But beyond that, you have to give Trump enormous credit. You do exactly right. If it was pretty tough for me to do the speaker negotiate the only balanced budgets in your lifetime, negotiating reform, to negotiate the largest capital in text. That can do all of that, will having this kind of a fight in the way. But to watch the president calmly lives through all this, uh a little constant brawl, uh and not back down, not get tired, not get weak. So it's an amazing performance on his part. Listen, I tend to agree with you, and and in the sense that I think this is an important overall lesson for everybody in terms of all right, what do they have here. Now what frustrates me and that we're now in day three still no verdict in the Mantaphor case. It has nothing to do with collusion, nothing to do with the campaign, nothing to do with Trump, nothing to do with Russia. But this is what Muller and his team have focused on. And I believe that the judge Ellis is correct and that this was to put the screws to Manifort, that he was literally singled out because of his his role for a hundred days working for Donald Trump. And I think that all of that is true. And I guess now the big question is, well, what about the real Russian lies that were propagated to the American people that Hillary paid for, that the phony dossier that even Steel admits he never verified. That we're fed to afise a court and four applications and a fraud committed upon the court. How come we have all this Russia stuff that they could be looking at, and then we have literally Adam Schiff on tape talking to a Russian about naked pictures of or who he thinks is a Russian source giving him information about Donald Trump and naked pictures, and that evidence is there nobody talks about the real Russia collusion. And I think we've learned how really sick the national establishment has been, and how bipartisan some of that sickness is. And I think we've learned that, um, if Hillary had one, all of us who have been swept under the rug, none of them whatever come out in the open. And we're I think only in the opening stages will take you across us of taking apart things that are going to just shock us, and we're gonna look at them and we're gonna think it could really have been this bad and could they really have been this sick? But I think that I'm not just the point similar to it'sak a loot monoport per second, mean, what what do you like Palmentivo? You disliked palm Asset from the time that they invaded his house at three in the morning with he and his wife and the pajamas and had armed federal agents. Could could no practical reason, movement reason to do this except intimidation, and that the sheer power of a tyranny then manifests. Been sitting over here and I've recently started writing some lettercis and experts sitting in isolation, but the only three hours a day. I think he has no television. I mean, I mean this is a sort of thing which is considered a punishment. Uh. If you know, if he were a terrorist and he's at Montanolo, we'd have outrage about the way he's been tweeted. And yet, man, what you see is that Muller has been willing to use the power of the government to go after an individual in order, frankly, to terrify everybody else. Will signal here is not about Manafort. It's not everybody else. He might go lafter to put the screws. The judge said it, to put the screws to Manafort so he sings or composes, so they can prosecute or impeach Trump. The judge had this from day one, and I've got to imagine that this is why this jury hasn't come back yet. I can't believe they're not back, and I wouldn't read into it. I think the odds are against manaford conviction rate in federal court. You know there he called to not bring in any wusnesses and just say the federal governments not proven this case. It was a gutsy call. I agree. Let me go back to one other things. James Comey fired, Andrew McCabe fired, struck Uh fired Page, demote, resigned Robicki Baker. And then if you go to and you include FBI and d o J departure, Sally Yates, fired Bruce or demoted twice associate deputy, you've got twenty five people in total that are involved at the highest levels. And what are nothing but deep state shenanigans. Why aren't any of these people indicted, and why would any of them ever deserve to keep their security clearance? And when are the House and Senate Judiciary committees gonna take seriously their responsibility to have Watergate style hearings out in the open and bring in all of these people and layoff the case, not just as you point out, not just about Trumps, but all the way back to how the Clintons have been handled, When the Clintons and their allies have been protected in ways given given immunity in ways that are astonishing. And if you put up a card and you showed the treatment of the Clinton team and the treatment of the Trump team, you understand how sick the deep state is. And this is not just some random language. You know, the last four years, fifty years, we've seen to grow through a bureaucracy which states it's above the law, it's above accountability, and it gets to define president. If you look at again a Brenner implemented, who believes that he can say the president is a traitor and then with a straight tase say no, I'm not political. And you have to think this is a guy who has very serious mental health problems, was just a compulsive wire. Well, I just want to know, I mean, you know why anyone would think it's right to keep fired or resigned people that resign under a cloud, or demoted people that somehow they deserve to keep their security clearance. You know, there's a new book out and um I had the authors on last week. It's called Compromised, How Money in Politics Drive ATBI Corruption. Now. It's put out by the Government Accountability Institute. That's Peter Schweitzer's group, and uh he wrote the foreward and Shamus Bruner wrote the book. But among the other findings here is that security clearances we discover worth a lot of money. Points out James Comey, for example, made six point one million dollars after the FBI granted his employer, Lockheed Martin, who was I guess he was representing at the time, a billion dollar boondoggle. Under Muller's direction, the FBI granted multiple spy contracts to Lockeed Martin while Comey was advising them on legality of their operations. You got another six million dollars working with one of the world's largest hedge funds, and another five grand for unused vacation time. Now I'm not saying there's anything the fairies here, but I am saying that those security clearances are worth money. Your thoughts on the five years that there is no You know, this is not an automatic earned right, This is not an aristocracy. You get the clearance for the purpose of serving the country that when you're no longer serve in the country, you give up clearances that were really very high when I was. But it would never occurred to me to try to keep clearances at that level once I quit being speaker. The ironic thing is that we found a provision within the CIA that says that, well, the only way you keep your clearance if you act in a manner as a currency I a employee. Brennan is not meeting that standard. Uh, if you listen to the media eight other places, the Democrats are going to take over the House. Uh. I would like to think that's not true. Well, first of all, there's a fascinating new book coming outside the head of polling for CBS who starts with the whole notion of how wrong they were when they tried to call the election in two thousand sixteen, and he goes back and says, you know, there's some really painful lessons to be learned by how how wrong we were. And his conclusion was, uh, that they didn't look in detail at what was really going on. He has a brand new bookout which I recommend. Everybody's names Anthony Salvanto and looking along the point team makes it I think the normal establishment types domp here. He said, what was happening the last six weeks of the campaign was that everybody who was on the side it was splitting for for Trump. And the reason was that they had all had years and years and years to decide their like Hillary, and they just couldn't do it. And Trump ran this very aggressive, was very intense campaign. As you remember, five or six major rallies a day, and each of those rallies had twenty thousand people, and each of those people took pictures with her smartphones and sent it out to twenty or more of their friends. So each rally was a four hundred thousand or million person events in terms of impact. She was doing one of it a day for fifteen hundred people. And Savanta's point is that when you looked at the momentum underneath all of what was going towards Trump. So so here's here's my prediction. If the Trump team, including the President and the Republican National Committee, which has done under uh Roland's jobs. He has done an amazing job as the chairman of raising more money than anybody in history, obviously with enormous help from the President. If that team, working with the House and Sentate committees, runs a very issue oriented campaign in September in October, we're going to have an upset as big as nineteen, as as two thousand and sixteen. I mean, everybody who told you of two thousands of sixteen that Hillary was clearly gonna win, Everybody who went into two thousands of sixteen election night buying champagne as a good leberl, They're going to be as shaken come election night, and I'll give you two quick examples. Um, every Democratic Senate incumbent responsible, Bill Okay as CORESPONSI open orders, and I doubt if the country's from with orders. So thank you. Go on try to defend that in deep trouble. Sanctuary cities are worse percent the country thinks they increase crime. So if we have a very issue ran a campaign this fall, you're going to be very happy on election night. Let's hope they listen to you. One of the smartest guys in politics, New Gingrids, thank you. We have an exclusive breaking story next than Sarah and Greg straight Ahead. Didn't the I R S scandal and the NSA atrocities convince you you need a watchdog on Washington with insider sources. You need Hannity every day. Do you think that on Brandan's hyperbole is an issue? Here is one of the reasons we're having this crisis? Well, I think it is. I think, um, you know, John is sort of like a freight train and he's gonna say what's on his mind. I think though, that the common denominator among all of us that have been speaking up though, is genuine concern about the jeopardy or threats to our institutions and values. And although we may express that in in different ways, and I think that's what this this really is about. But John and his rhetoric had become I think an issue in and of itself. You indicated that you've had lawyers contact you about possible legal action. It's forty eight hours later. What would that look like. Is that something you're serious about. Well, I have been contacted by a number of lawyers and they have already given me their thoughts about the basis for a complaint and injunction to try to prevent him from doing this in the future. If my clearing sys and my reputation as I'm being pulled through the mud now, if that's the price we're going to pay to prevent Donald Trump from doing this against other people, to me, it's a small price to pay. So I am going to do whatever I can personally to try to prevent these abuses in the future, and if it means going to court, I will I will do that. This is a dictatorial exercise of power that should frighten and call on all Republicans to say, Mr President, you cannot do this. You are trying to inhibit the free speech of people who may be in opposition to you, to use this kind of punishment to chill speak in the violation of the First Amendment. I mean, this is a striking move towards authoritarianism. You know, this is what dictators do. They shut down the press, shut down to send they jailed their opponents for in this case, they steal their security clearance. What happened here was a pure authoritarian act from an president who wanted to punish one of his critics, nothing more, nothing less him right now. But do you know what he already right, it doesn't influence me already, taking away from from John Leiden. So doesn't that say that everybody else shut your mouth because something was a norm means that it's it's law. That's not the case. A lot of these people that had these security clearances, and this is the secret and in the swampy Washington d C. They have them and they keep them because it's profitable for them after they leave government. Because if you have a security clearance, especially high level security clearances, your contracts and your consulting gift pay you a lot more money because of the access that you have. I hope the President continues to do this, and I hope he adds i'm a Rosa to the list because if she has a clearance, she too, because of her actions, should have it revoked. Well, I don't know if I put m Rossa in the same category of seople sign those letters but film. But I imagine you want to react profitable Paris. When I am requested to sit on advise your board, let me ask you one question. How much do you think I'm paid to do that? At the requestion to the US government? Give me one answer and you got ten seconds. How much I'll give I'll ask you a question, how much are you paid for your answer? The question? Acting gigs for for being a They have no contract with the US government that paid more. I'm not talking hearing. This is the thing I'm not talking about that's beyond this. I'm not talking about your role with the federal government. I'm talking about the Sultan and a contractor. The consulting firms that they form and that you all get is because you get more money when having a consultant before before having the security class. That doesn't happen. I have zero consulting relationship to with the U s government zero. I'm not talking field. That's a good talking point. That was a phenomenal debate, believe it or not on fake news CNN. Now I wasn't watching fake news CNN. I saw it the media because they had the clip up Paris de Nard clabboring this the Santy Trumper of film money. I never I tell me what what contracts I had with the US cover that somebody's talking about. I told you about this new book last week, and we had Peter schweitzeran and Shamus Brunner on the program, and it's called Compromise. How money and politics drive FBI corruption? Now, what are these security clearance is worth? Now? The book points out James Comey's net worth skyrocketed over four thousand percent between leaving the d O J and OH five and returning to the FBI. In the book chronicles how Comy made six point one million dollars after Mueller's FBI granted his employer. In other words, Comey's working for Lockheed Martin, which is the largest contractor in history and what was many described a billion dollar boondoggle, and under Mueller's direction. He was the FBI director at the time. The FBI granted multiple spy contracts to Lockheed Martin while Comey advised them on the quote legality of their operations. At six point one million dollars, we're talking about this serious amount of money. Well, what are they paying for. They're paying for contacts, which by the way, can be totally completely legitimate. But the point is that security clearance is worth something, and that's the point here. And to have clapp or even recognizing that the rhetoric of Brennan is so over the top is unbelievable. But this isn't the first time that this has happened. Shawn Bigley is a partner with Bigley run A LLP specializing in federal security clearance defense. And you represent Adam Lovinger who lost his security clearance after Stephen Helper complained about him, and you wrote a op ed about your client. Why don't I just let you tell our audience what you found and what you said. Good to be with you, that's right. I do represent Mr Lovinger. He's a long time a Defense Department employee who is a very strong supporter of the President and uh In. He complained numerous times to his superiors, all of whom were Obama appointees at the Pentagon about these egregious contracts that were being awarded to Stefan Helper and also to a close friend of the Clinton families. And subsequently several months go by and his mysterious his security clearances mysteriously revoked, and he's now sitting at home trying to figure out ways to feed his family. All right, So now this is fascinating. So when did this happen? What year? So the complaints originally were filed in the fall of twenty sixteen, right around the election cycle, and they were ignored, and uh subsequent the administration comes in. He moves over to the White House as a by name request from the new administration. They had heard about his reputation and wanted him serving in the White House. And by May one he had been recalled to the Pentagon and his security clearance had been stripped. You know, when you look at all the FBI departures, for example, and the reasons why, whether there are people are fired like James Comey, Andrew McCabe fired, Peter Struck fired, then you've got the resignations. Lisa Paige, she got out while she could. James Robecki, James Baker uh and and others. And then you look at the others in the d o J, the number of people that have resigned. People aren't even beginning to pay attention to any of this. But you've got a list between the d o J and the FBI top people that have either resigned, been fired, or demoted twice like Bruce Orr. But the reality is, uh, these clearances are worth money in the private sector. And I'm not even saying that anything. The furious necessarily goes on, except it's all this that all the same people all the time. Why is it Comey is getting paid all this money from Lockheed Martin, according to this book, compromised at a time when Mueller is the FBI director. I mean these I mean, we can keep running into the same group of people. Seems to me like who you know matters in Washington, Oh, absolutely, And I mean I think a lot of people outside the Washington DC beltway may not understand that really a security clearance is a meal ticket. It's the equivalent of a professional license for a doctor or a lawyer, and without it, you're not gonna work in the field in which you practice. And so for somebody like a COMI or a Brennan who's spent their career in government and who's going to go on to lucrative uh consulting gigs or sit on boards at various defense contractors. Without that clearance, they're not as valuable. And the same thing the reverse goes for somebody like Mr Lovinger. He stripped of his clearance, he can no longer work, and now we're fighting that on appeal, and meanwhile they are pulling out all the stops to make sure that he doesn't get his due process. It's really outrageous. Let's go into your original article how the Pentagon bank rolled an alleged spy inside the Trump campaign and other sort of tales. Um. Because you you literally right, you know chapter and firsts on this, I want you to explain it in detail. Sure, So back in Mr Lovinger started to notice that Mr Halper and others in this office, we're really getting a very very generous contracts to do what he perceived as very little. Uh. The contracts were kept very close to the vest. They were run by people who were of ardent Obama and Clinton supporters, including one of whom was a vocal anti Trumper, and he started raising issues and saying, look, you know the this is a perception of impropriety. What are these people doing for the money? These are taxpayer funds. Why are we bankrolling to the tune of millions of dollars people to go out and conduct research studies on things like whether or not there's enough coastal elites in the National security bureaucracy. I mean ridiculous, patently ridiculous subject matters that do nothing to inform anybody. And we're being paid hundreds of thousands, if not millions of dollars to perform this work. On top of that, he also said, here's a specific statute of specific federal law that prohibits contractors from being used to conduct foreign relations, which is precisely what he perceived them as doing. And he was completely ignored, completely shut down on multiple levels. Uh, he goes off to the White House and I think they viewed him as a threat there and essentially did whatever they had to do to to yank him back, strip him of his clearance, and shut him up. And you know, Sean, this is a real problem. It's not just Mr Lovinger, It's an epidemic across the government. I have people who I represent in the administration on multiple different levels, very senior folks all the way to lower level folks, and their experience is probably experiencing this problem right and left. It's a tool that the deep state is essentially weaponized. It's the low hanging fruit, if you will, to keep people out of government, to keep the president's appointees out who are going to effectuate his agenda. And it's something that they've been doing over and over. Now the people responsible because you wrote another great column on that the deep state is weaponized the vetting a trumpet appointees, and I know numerous people that have incredible qualifications, and it seems the only strike against them is that they recognize that there are either holdovers from the Obama administration or people that are at odds with the current administration that are inside the important jobs. Oh absolutely, and you know we're d D is the tip of the spear on this. I mean, let's be clear, there are a good half dozen folks at the Department of Defense who are actively out to thwart the president's agenda and who are using this process as the means to do it. But it's also happening in the State Department it's happening at Homeland Security, it's happening in a number of places government wide, and they're they're doing it in very sneaky, very technical ways that that they used to sort of keep people out. And you know, here's another irony to under Brennan. The CIA was one of the worst and remains one of the worst defenders as far as due process. I have people who have literally put their lives on the line for this country who have been frozen out on bogus security clearance concerns, one of whom has been sitting since and is now working to drive through a Chick fil A to make ends meet. So, you know, for him to turn around and whine about essentially him being mistreated is really ironic. Well let me go through because you went through all of this, our friend, Well, I gotta take a break. Ka, I'll ask you. My friend Rowan Scarborough had a great piece on this that we'll get to uh as well. Eight nine for one, Shawn is our toll free telephone number. You want to be a part of the program. And as we continue with Shawn Bigley, and by the way, he represents Adam Lovinger, he's the guy that lost his security clearance after Stefan Helper complained about him. Uh, you know, I read the piece your pieces, and then I also read Rowan Scarborough I've known a long time in respect a lot from the Washington Times, and he's pointing out your client, which, by the way, Pentagon analysts stripped of his security clearance by Obama appointed officials after he complained of questionable government contracts that Stefan Helper had. Now this is what over four hundred dollars which we're talking about. And anyway, Adam Lovinger, your client is a twelve year strategist at the Pentagon's Office of Net Assessment, and he complained to his bosses about these Helper contracts and uh, then they yanked his security clearance. How often has this happened that we don't hear about it? Maybe not a side profile, as say John Brennett. Yeah, it's it's definitely happening on a pretty consistent basis, not so much in the whistleblower retaliation context as it is in the political sphere. In other words, if you are somebody who identifies as a you know, supporter of the president, somebody who maybe the president is selected to fill a specific role. We've seen case after case where there are entrenched bureaucrats, many of them Obama holdovers, at various agencies, who are pulling out all the stops from a security in a vetting standpoint to prevent people from getting in. And I'll give you a couple of examples. We've had some agencies where they have essentially instituted a policy that says, we're not going to give what's called interim clearances anymore to political appointees. We're gonna give them all day long to to career officials, but we're not going to give them to people who the president appoints because we just don't trust them. We've had other agencies that have essentially, a year after somebody has been on boarded and started work, come act and said, you know what, that little minor thing that you self reported, maybe you had a d Y a few years ago, or some other minor thing that we didn't think was the problem when we hired you, Now it's an issue. So now we're going to kick you out to the curb. So it's that kind of behavior that's happening over and over and again, and really the only conclusion that you can draw on a systemic level, is that this is a coordinated effort to essentially prevent the president from effectuating his policy agenda, because as we know, you can't, you can't. You don't have people to execute the policy, you can't execute it. And I think that's precisely what the what the idea is. All right, Seawan Bigley, keep up the good work, will continue to follow the story, and we're going to continue to investigate the investigators and follow the money, which now is becoming more interesting by the day. One Shawn toll Free telephone number, News round Up, Information Overload is next, and then we'll check in with Greg and Sarah straight ahead. Regret essentially accusing the president of treason? Do you do you regret some of the things you have said. I called his behavior treason, which is to betray one's trust and to aiden at the enemy. And I stand very much by that claim. You're the former CIA director accusing the sitting president United States. It's not a private citizen. A lot of people here, the former CIA director accusing the sitting president United States of treason. That's that's monument that's a monumental accusation. Well, I think these are abnormal times, and I think a lot of people have spoken out against what Mr Trump has done, and maybe it's my my warning training as an intelligence professional, I have seen the lights blinking red in terms of what Mr Trump has done and is doing, and is bringing this country down on the global stage, and he's fueling and feeding divisiveness within our country. Donald Trump has badly sullied the reputation of the office of the presidency with his invective, with his constant um disregard. I think for even decency, he is I think the most divisive president we've ever had in the oval office. He is feeding and fueling hatred and animosity and misunderstandings among Americans. I think there's a big question, first of all, in terms of those who are on Mr Trump's National security team, whether they can continue to serve in good conscience an individual who basically betrayed his nation. What Mr Trump did yesterday was to betray the women men of the FBI, the c I, A, N s A, and others. I think he's afraid of the President of Russia. Why well, I think one can speculate as to why that the Russians may have something on him. Personally that they could always roll out and make his life more difficult. Mr Trump continues to have his ignorance of the facts, the willful disregard of them again just to follow through on these campaign promises that really were very flawed. I and so many other former Nascurity officials are speaking out because of the abnormal and aberrant behavior of Mr Trump. This is a very large and painful national kidney Stone relief. We feel his rhetoric is so outrageous, so over the top, so absolutely apt and you know, rooted in insanity and politics. It's so personally divisive. This is a former CIA director, former communist we ever got this position is something we really need to examine and to listen to this rhetoric day in and day out, and this absolutely ridiculous argument that somehow he has a constitutional right to a lifelong actual lifelong access UH as it relates to a security clearance is absolutely false. Now we have gone over in great specificity what the CIA itself even mandates in terms of their rules if he's not acting The only way he gets to keep his clearance if he's acting in a manner consistent with a current CIA employee, which he's not doing. Never mind all of this, it's a patently absurd argument about the First Amendment. A friend, Greg Jared, pointed out the U. S. Supreme Court case Navy v. Egan, where a president has the authority to provoke any clearance with or without a stated reason, and the idea that this is about free speech. No, this guy has more speech than he's ever had in his life. Is more notoriety that he's ever had in his life. He has more platforms than he's ever had in his life to spew his hate, his politics, his vitriol, and he's doing so freely every day. Nobody's stopping him. But to have a security clearance is very, very different. Now we have Greg Jarrett three weeks and running now number one New York Times bestseller his book, which is the Russian Hoax, The Illicit Scheme to clear Hillary Clinton and framed Donald Trump, and Sarah Carter is with us Fox News Investigated reporter and contributor, and Sarah, by the way, is even breaking more news that in the summer, then FBI Director James Comey had been advised that former Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid would be sending him a letter which he did send, asking to investigate allegations that President Trump's campaign had colluded with Russia, according to documents now obtained by Congress, and this was written several days after John Brennan had met with Harry Reid. And by the way, most investigators believe that Brennan privately brief read about the dossier. It's in Gregg's book, by the way, and we'll get to whether or not that had actually happened. Sara, why don't you give us more details and why that would be relevant The timing of the heads up the comby had, well, it was extraordinarily relevant, Shine because it would tell us whether or not Brennan the CIA was working with the FBI during that summer with regard to the dossier. And it seems like it would make common sense because if we think about it in terms of of the dossier, this is a foreign of spy Christopher Steele, who put together these sixteen part memos that compiled the dossier, and it would be extraordinary if the FBI was investigating this without making contact with the CIA. What makes this important is the fact that Brennan had briefed the Gang of Eight that summer and then Reid had called him in for basically a private meeting on August thousand and sixteen, so he met with Read. Two days later, a letter goes to Komy. Now, documents that have been obtained by Congress show that Comy was expecting this letter even before he received it. He goes, so here at Brennan is now talking to Read. This is on August. Two days later. Read gets this letter right, sends this letter to Coomy. Two days after the letter goes to Komy, it gets leaked to the New York Times and on August twenty nine, and then the story comes out. It flushes out even more. This is right before the election where they're accusing Trump and people in his campaign of colluding with Russia. And I think there's a lot of concern among congressional officials. We know that Judicial Watch now has sued for all of the communications between Brennan and Coomy, I mean Brennan and Harry Reid, and they want to know what those connects were, what his connections were with Comey as well, and how this all evolved. Were all these agencies in collusion with each other? Were they involved with the d o J? Was the CIA involved? In the FBI's investigation. And I think that's going to be very telling how far these people were involved in in this alleged Russia Trump collusion case. Well, and then it goes to pushes the date back earlier. And then remember this is the July or the summer of and remember we now believe it all started even before they ended the Clinton investigation. As evidence points out, Greg, you write about this this Brennan Harry Read meeting in your book. I want to go over it specifically. We know that meeting took place, correct, Yes, it's actually on page one of my book. They meet on the Harry Read sends out a letter's James Commy on the seven in an obvious attempt to influence the election. He claims Trump Russia collusion and the purpose SIY did this, Brennan and Read to leak it to the media to h harm President or then Canada Trump in his election bid. And so they it didn't work, only the Washington Post picked up on it. And so then Harry Read doubles down and does it again. He says another letter about a month later, just before the election, to harm Trump. Uh, and once again he alleges Trump Russian collusion, and John Brennan, as I identify in the book, was the instigator. He did more than anyone to propagate and promulgate the Russia hoax. He's the guy who was peddling this false dossier, and James Comey was in on it all along. I tweeted out earlier today that it it is always amusing when Commy weighs in as he did over the weekend about lies and lying people, because this is a guy who surmizes about it in the book, and yet he's the guy who basically conjured out of thin air the Russia hoax all by himself, with some help from John Brennan, James Clapper, Peter Struck, Lisa Page, and others. As I explained in the book, So Brennan is not the kind of person who should ever be close to classified information. The President was correct in making sure that he had his classification revoked, and so to Comey and all of the other people I just named, they should never be anywhere near classified information. You know, look at all the people Sarah call me fired, McKay fired, Struck fired, Page resigns, Rebicki resigns, Baker resigns, uh and and other FBI departures that have taken place that are are under scrutiny at this particular time. Then you got you know, Sally Yates fired Bruce or demoted twice. And then you know, all told, between the FBI and the d o J, twenty five people resign, fired, or demoted over all of this, uh, And then you have you know, the news media still ignores the insanity that has gone on here at the top levels of the FBI and the do o J. I think it's incredible, Sean that this is possibly one of the biggest scandals in modern political history, and the mainstream media and audiences that watch the mainstream media or read the mainstream media are really blinded by what happened because the information is not getting out there. This is so important. It sits on everything our Constitution stands for because it talks about the weaponizing of our intelligence community, our privacy rights, UH, the ability for people within the government to try to unseat a duly elected president. You can't get a story bigger than this. And just to clarify on one thing, because in my story, I did reach out to John Brennan numerous times, and I did get a response, this guy Shapiro, Yes, his former chief of staff. Nick Shapiro responded on behalf of Brennan. This was his former chief of staff at the CIA, and denied any allegation suggesting that he knew about the dossier before December two thousand sixteen. The contents of the dossier. Now, when I pushed on it and said, look, you know I knew about the dossier during that summer. There were rumors all over Washington, d C. That somebody was peddling some kind of information about a report of Trump in Russia. How could I know about it? In the head of the CIA not know about it? And then he went back and said, well, he had heard about its existence, but hadn't seen the contents. Okay, So he didn't bring this up with Harry Reid. Is that what he's claiming. That's what he's claiming. He is claiming that he did. How many days after after he met with Harry Reid, did read send call me the memo or the letter? Abolutely he said that he had asked him to brief him. Reid had asked him per mission to basically put in his letter the contents of the briefing that he gave to the Gang of Eight on Russia, uh and that he had denied Read that that I guess that permission to put the contents of what he had briefed the Gang of Eight on. But Reid had sent the letter anyways, regarding whatever he knew about the dossier, don't we have evidence to that that Brennan was involved in spreading this false dossier information on the media And according to sources, Brennan was actually involved in spreading this dossier and rumors about this dossier. Now, remember this is Washington, d c. And people say a lot of things. That's why I reached out to Brennan personally. Now we have Brennan on the record saying this. But what we don't have is all of the communications which the CIA has denied and they probably will deny on a national security basis to that were requested by Judicial Watch, which would be those communications between Brennan and Read, between Brennan and Homey, between Come and Read. That would be interesting to see as well, because there is a lot of suspicion that when he had that briefing with Read on August that the contents of the dossier were discussed and Comey was well aware that a letter would be coming from Read So it appeared that they all knew what was coming down the pike, and it appeared that they all knew that it was related to this jossier. All right, let me take a break. We'll come back more with Sarah Carter. We'll have full coverage of this tonight and the reasons laid out in specific detail why Brennan does not deserve a security clearance and by the way, neither do all these other fired UH former officials. And as we continue, Gregg Jarrett number one New York Times bestselling author The Russian Hoax, The Illicit Scheme to Claire Hillary Clinton Frame Donald Trump, three weeks in running, now number one on the New York Times list. Sarah Carter, Fox News contributor, investigative reporter. Sarah has a news story. Let me go back to what Brennan knew and did and Greg if so, he's meeting with Harry Reid in late in August, right, we believe, and Harry Reid gets the details. August, what do we know about Director Brennan's briefing that it had taken place just a couple of days prior UH to that. And similarly, what do we know about Brennan using the dossier to disseminate false information. Well, he clearly had the dossier in his possession, he admits when he testified, and this is also in my book. Um, when he testified before Congress, he said he knew of Trump Russia connections and conspiracy inclusion, and he knew that in the summer of two thousand and sixteen. So there's no question that he knew about that. That's documented in my book. It's well sourced, and it's in fact his under oath testimony. So he meets with Harry Reid in late August, and it's no coincidence. It read sends out a letter to James Comey. It was all a con job. They both knew that. On the thirty one of July, Comey had already launched officially by signing papers under the name of Peter Struck, the Trump Russia collusion case, but the media didn't know it. So they were looking for an excuse to let the media know about it, to run with it, to harm Trump in the election and help Hillary Clinton. So Harry Reid leaks his letter alleging Trump Russia collusion the Washington Play. He's never gonna He's never going to tell the truth either, because no, of course not. He has a long and distinguished history of lies. He's one of the most prodigious, prolific liars in all of Congress. Let me give let's Sarah have the last word only because we're running out of time. Both of you will join us on Hannity tonight, but I want to make sure we get Sarah's last words in here. Sarah, Well, I think there's there's very there's a lot of concern here. What you need to find out, Sean, is how deep were the other agencies involved in this investigation into President Trump, What were their actions, what took place between them? What was the information shared between the FBI and c I A. I think that's very important. I think that's very telling, and I think that direction Congress is going to take right now. All right, thank you both of being with us, Sarah, Greg. We'll have more details tonight quick break. Your calls are next. You know, it's amazing. I think we've done a better job on TV. And maybe it's just because you can see it. But the day to day to day to day, issue to issue to issue the fame moral outrage of the day. Whether it's Russia, Russia, Russia, or Paul Manaford or Mrosa, it doesn't matter. I mean, it is literally issue to issue to issue. The one thing they don't do is a report on the biggest abusive power scandal in history. And all these FBI and d o J officials that abused power and we're fired or resigned or were demoted, and there's a ton of them, and then they sit so they're feigning outrage. Now Brennan lost the security clearance. I mean, you watch this guy. He is totally, utterly, completely unhinged. How this man ever became the CIA director is something we've got to ask the question. And all these people, all of a sudden, you get fired, You get to keep your security clearance. The purpose of keeping your clearance, just so you know, is if we ever wanted to, you know, to bring back some people for additional insight into the issues of the day. You lose that privilege. It is not freedom of speech being squashed, as the media's portraying this and that Brennan is a great victim here. He's not. He earned the removal of his security clearance and all these other people did too. Let's let's just remind you how how this media in this country works on any given day. This is a dictatorial exercise of power that should frighten and call on all Republicans to say, Mr President, you cannot do this. You are trying to inhibit the free speech of people who may be in opposition to you. To use this kind of punishment to chill speak is a violation of the First Amendment. I mean, this is a striking move towards authoritarianism. You know, this is what dictators do. They shut down the press, shut down to send they jailed their opponents for in this case, they steal their security clearance. What happened here was a pure authoritarian act from an intemperate president who wanted to punish one of his critics, nothing more, nothing less, threatening him right now, But you know what he said already, right, it doesn't influence something already staying away from from John Len And so doesn't that say that everybody else shut your mouth is basically sort of delegitimizing our system of government. Maybe this is the beginning of a new Satura day night massacre, and one has to wonder whether Mr Trump is feeling the pressure of the Manifort trial. It looks like he may very well have obstructed justice in this particular case. That's why I find it particularly ironic that he seems to be, you know, continuing to try to obstruct and in this case so publicly. They're starting to feel the collusion investigation closing in a little bit more, we're getting Donald Trump's most overt and obstructionist tweets to date. Um, it's not a surprise. 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I don't mind people making money and using their expertise, their background, their experience, uh to to advise companies on what's good right, just etcetera. But you know when you see Comey is getting huge contracts and Mueller is the FBI director and the amount of money is staggering, and then it becomes a bit of an issue to me, and then I think legitimate investigate the investigators follow the money. Questions do need to be asked? Now, the fact is this guy, Paris Denard, was right Philip Mudd at a meltdown, and he kept shifting the issue. Tell me where the US government paid, And we're not talking about that. Paris. Denard was not talking about that. He was rightly pointing out and this new book now highlights it that we had on on Friday, that yeah, there is this this industry that exists for people with security clearances. Listen, a lot of these people that had these security clearances, and this is the secret and in the swampy Washton d C. They have them and they keep them because it's profitable for them after they leave government. Because if you have a security clearance, especially high level security clearances, your contracts and your consulting gift pay you a lot more money because of the access that you have. I hope the President continues to do this, and I hope he adds I'm a Rosa to the list because if she has a clearance, she too, because of her actions, should have it revoked. Well. I don't know if I put am Rosso in the same category of the seventy people sign those letters, but film I imagine you want to react profitable Paris. When I am requested to sit on an advisor board, let me ask you one question, how much do you think I'm paid to do that? At the requestion to the US government at the request of the government. Seconds ten seconds, ten nine, I'll give I'll ask you a question, how much are you paid for your answer the question? Ack and gig for for being a for They have no contract with the US with the government. That's not what he's talking about. When I'm not talking about Zerial, That's be honest. I'm not talking about your role with the federal government. I'm talking about that Sultan and a contractor. The consulting firms that they form and that you all get is because you get more money when having a consultant before having the security class like that doesn't happen. I have zero consulting relationship to with the US government. Zero. Not to didn't say the government notice three times talking about relationship with the government. I'm talking about in the private sector. When you have a security relationships with the private sector that involved my security clearance. Zero. I get zero dollars from consulting companies that deal with US government. Are we clear? Well, I will be clear and saying that everybody in Washington, d C. Knows if you don't want to be honest about it. That's on you, all right. So now maybe Mud doesn't have those, but it's funny that he didn't answer the guy's question. Now we know from this new book that wait a minute, this is an industry that none of us really knew about. That. You know, if I guess if what's his name, coll Me can go work for what Lockheed Martin and makes six million dollars according to this book Compromised, How money in politics drive FBI corruption and Mueller at the time as the FBI Director. I mean, okay, now one of their old friends. I mean, it's so incestuous. That's the problem. That is what's wrong here. Anyway, let's get to our busy. Well, one of the things do we have to tape of Florida Democrats are old and peach friend Alsie Hastings trying to, you know, quote joke about Trump drowning in the Potomac. I will tell you all one joke that I learned from Ari silver Or, whose following is a falling state legislator and is a robot Barry Silva. But are he asked the audience. So the night in falm Beach County, he said, do you know the difference between a crisis and a catastrophe, and no one will tell their hands. So are he answered for us? He says, a crisis is if Donald Trump falls into the Potomac River and can't swell, and he said at a catest if he has anybody says, is that the president drowning in the Potomac? Really getting those lines going there, getting a crowd revd up. No, No, Well, the next thing we're gonna hear is in peach forty five again proclaiming my time in peacht get you know, let's go. Can I say, keep going? Democrats? This is what you want to run on in how many short days do we have? Seventy eight days? If that's what you're gonna run on, good luck to you. We're gonna hit this very hard right after Labor Day. This is the most important mid term in your life. And I'm gonna tell you right now you want all progress to stop, if you want investigations galore, then stay home. If you want the President's agenda literally is stop in its tracks, then stay home. Because that's what the Democrats plan, That's what they will do, and they will try and use that to stop and sty me all the good that we've now seen in the last you know, twenty months or so. All right, Cindy is in Michigan. Cindy, Hi, how are you. We're glad you called. Welcome to the Sean Hannity Show. Hi, Sean, I hope you're well. I am calling today about the term fake news. I think it really is yellow journalism, and it's a language of half truth, innuendos, and outright lies. And I can't imagine how thick President Trump's skin must be to listen to what he must hear all day long. And I just don't think that people have the right who have access to the press, CNN, John Brennan, all these people that they have the right to say or print lies that black and a person's name and cause pain. And I think that's what they do. And I people that support and the what what I was hearing with John Brennan just infuriates me. And I wonder do people just derive pleasure from the pain it might cause somebody else, especially President Trump? And do they listen to it, support it because it's not happening to them? Said, You've got to understand something that's very profound here they hate this president. They think they did everything they could do to stop this president. They never thought this president would win. They did things that were frankly untoward and illegal, and some of them are in legal jeopardy. And look, I I don't know, I've never seen a media so complicit involved in a cover up of monumental proportions. We have the evidence. These people have been fired, these people have resigned, these people have been demoted, and it's all over the place. And in the meantime, then then we're learning that not only did the president his attorney's hand over one point for million separate documents to Muller and his merry band of witch hunters, but then they even allowed the White House Council, which is unprecedented, to talk to this guy for thirty hours. That's it. Case closed. Nobody lets their attorney Clinton, nobody would let their attorney speak to the Special Counsel like this. So now they want to bring the as it him. Why because he may contradict one or two things that that was said by his attorney, the White House Counsel, And they can say, and this is what Rudy was trying to say, The truth is not the truth what he's saying in that statement, and it sounds to the average person like a dumb thing to say. What he's really saying is the people that get to determine if you have two different bits of testimony, it will be the special counsel that decides what is the truth, even if they may be wrong. That's that was the essence of his stay. Maybe an inarticulate a little bit more of I would say special counsel legal jargon, uh that most lawyers would understand. But it's going to be them that decide. And yeah, you can indict a ham sandwich. It's kind of scary. Um. Thank you so much, Cindy Michael and Fort Lauderdale, Florida, w f l A. What's going on? God, God blessed Sean honor to speak to you because you seek the truth. I just wanted to roll the sound about Struck. Who's I think you'll find it directly linked to Brennan. But how does somebody raise four hundred thousand dollars in twenty four hours when Molly Tibbots with National News took three weeks to raise that kind of money. That go fund me page was set up inside the fifty four square mills of insanity surrounded by reality. And somebody is paying that guy off, and and and you'll see that those names are anonymous, and they should be investigated. Who gave him money? And I think people are trying to pay struck off because he knows where everything is buried. I don't know, you mean with the high amount of money that's going into his defense money, I don't know. I'd have to look at the people that are putting it in there. I just assume there are enough Trump painting liberals out there that would pay any amount of money, because remember, their agenda is about destroying Trump. And that's gonna wrap things up to today. All right, we have breaking news tonight. Also Sarah and Greg will join us on the breaking news. Jim Jordan's Alan Dershowitz, why did McGann testify for thirty hours? George Papadopoulos, his wife wants her husband to withdraw the flea And we are watching all the breaking news on every other issue. All right, we got a big show. Tune in tonight, Tell your friends ninety Eastern Hannity, Fox News. We'll see then we'll be back here tomorrow