The Case for Donald Trump - 1.4

Published Jan 5, 2017, 2:24 AM

Sean is joined by former Reagan associate political director Jeff Lord and author of the book, "What America Needs: The Case for Trump" and Leslie Marshall, host of the Leslie Marshall Show to discuss the continued pushback against President-elect Trump. California lawmakers are already preparing for a legal brawl with the Trump administration and they’ve got President Obama’s former top attorney in their corner. The Sean Hannity Show is live Monday through Friday from 3pm - 6pm ET on iHeart Radio and Hannity.com.

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Let's make America sick again. Republicans are about to be in power, and they want the elderly to die, to be sick and die and get cancer and have heart attacks and never get to a doctor. It's all beginning now. The lefties, the snowflakes out there, are now beginning to urge Obama to declare martial law and nullify the election. I'm not making this up. Over that the group change dot org, you've got disgruntled snowflakes. They're signing a petition urging Obama to declare martial law use it to prevent Donald Trump from taking the oath of office. The petition reads, until we know fully if the presidential election has been tampered with by the Russians, our country is under a serious security risk, and to appoint a special nonpartisan commission to discover whether or not President elect Donald Trump and Vice President elect Mike Pence had knowledge about any and all Russian interference. It has become extremely apparent the President elect Donald Trump must be stopped from taking the presidential oath of office until a full investigation is underway. Martial law is the imposition of the highest ranking military officer as the military governor or as the head of the government, thus removing all power from the previous executive, legislative, judicial branches of government. And that's where the snowflakes are today. You know, part of this is really what are you laughing about? No, we remember I was worried that snowflake may mean something else, and that I'm probably just ignorant about what snowflake means. Now we know what the snowflakes are. These looney lefties. Rosie O'Donnell, she of all people calling Trump unstable. You got this singer in England, Rebecca Ferguson, saying that she'll play the Trump inauguration if she can sing a song about lynching. Wow, the Democratic Party is now building a war room to battle Trump. Bruce Springsteen, poor little Brucey, by the way, I love how Brucey and John bon Jovi, by the way, I'm over, you know, living on a prayer. I mean it's kind of old now, very eighties, you know. Uh. Well, I saw a bunch of drunk people on New Year's Eve. They played that song and to go and they're just making total fools for themselves singing that song. I was loving so hard. Oh, you'd be proud of me. My second year in a row. I got behind the bar and I was tending bar on New Year's Eve. People were shocked. And I did it at a place that I know where I was vacationing anyway. So poor Bruce Springsteen who doesn't want to pay taxes like bon Jovi, so he owns a farm in New Jersey, just like bon Jovi owns a farm in New Jersey. I love liberal hypocrites. You know, they're willing to take taxes from everybody else, but they don't want to pay themselves. What a bunch of phonies. Hey Bruce, why don't your pony up some money and stop saying you live on a farm because you just I could see there's Bruce Springsteen. He's out there, you know, on his tractor doing a little farming and out in New Jersey. How much farming goes on in New Jersey? Not much? What is he? What is he? What is he farming tomatoes in the summertime? He has three tomato plants. I had a tomato plant this year. Worked out great, and Granny Janny take care of it. I didn't. I bought it and just left it alone. And she felt sorry for the plant because I didn't pay an attention to it. Oh, it's so funny anyway. Bruce Springstey is afraid of Trump. I feel discussed before, A never known fear before I felt I I. He says he's scared of Trump. I felt discussed before, but never fear. Poor Brucey, Poor Brucey's feeling fearful. Maybe I need to call Brucey up and tell him. Buck him up a little bit. Brucey, You're gonna be fine. Relax. Then you've got Sally Field and other people rallying to urge Congress do vigorously opposed Trump, stand up for the US. Dear members of Congresser, members of Congress, you're members of county? Are members of Congress? On that? Flabbergast? Furious, concerned for my children, I'm worried for everyone. The majority of Americans, regardless of who they voted for, did not vote for racism, for sexism, or for xenophobia. And yet Donald Trump won. And since he won, hey, crimes are rising. Women have been attacked in his name, people of color attacked in his name. You represent us in Congress. You are our last line of defense. So here's what we ask of our elected officials. No, here's what we demand. To the extent that Trump pursues racist, sexist, anti immigrant, anti worker, anti Muslim, anti Semitic, anti environmental policies, we demand that you vigorously oppose him. We demand that you block nominees who threatened the rights of women, the LGBT community, people of color, immigrants, and the poor. And we want you to know that we are with you. As long as you do that stuff. We won't remain silent. We won't remain silent. We won't remain silent. Will work harder to mobilize our votes and our communities. But we need you, and we expect you to have our backs to protect our civil liberties and to use your congressional powers to obstruct, to obstruct, obstruct anything, anything that violates our core values m diverse Americans. You know, we've sucked it up here for eight years. Sixteen days to go. This is a long sixteen days. He can't get out of town fast enough. He has the most atrocious economic and foreign policy record of any president in history. You know what, just relax, all you snowflakes. Everything is going to be fine. You have an msnbcer painting Trump as a danger to the First Amendment. Um use me, it's actually just the opposite. This guy believes in Twitter and Facebook and talking all the time. He loves the First Amendment. You have liberal groups coordinating against Jeff Sessions. They don't want him to be Attorney General, so they'll start with their phony. He's a racist crap Whoopie Goldberg. Trump's private security will turn into stormtroopers. Here comes the Nazis. Charlie Shean tweets, well, he wants God to take Donald Trump next. Isn't that nice of Charlie Sheen? Such a good guy? John Harwood, he did host the debate. If I recall, white fear is partly responsible for democratic losses under Obama. In other words, you're all racist. You have one of the rockets on the Trump inauguration gig My castmates feel forced to perform for this monster. Chelsea Handlers shames white women Trump supporters, then calls on women to unify. That's a nice message. Let's see you cannot eat here Hawaii cafe Ryle's residents with a ban on Trump voters. Michael Moore shares five ways to resist if your head is still spinning from Trump's win Chucky Schumer will work with Trump only if he moves completely in our direction. Oh, that's gonna happen. And then all the celebrities who won't perform. John Legend, Legend won't perform, actually met him? Remember I met him? And what's his wife's name? You know? I met him a Super Bowl one year, like Hannity like Legend, Like, what's up, dude? That's how that conversation went. Who else? I don't even know these people? Oh, the Dixie Chicks manager is not gonna play. Oh that's a real Adam Lambert's not gonna play. Uh, Ice A Ray? Who's that? I don't even know what she is? Who's Idina Menzel? Do you know who these people are? Frozen? Eric McCormick, you know that is? I don't mean, I don't even know who these people are, and they're acting like it's a big deal. All right, But let me just reiterate something that I said yesterday, because this is really important. You can't just vote and go away. Now. We can laugh at these voices today, but let me tell you what the strategy is. The strategy is day in, day out, night in, night out, every single day they are going to try to chip away and destroy Donald Trump as a person. They're going to try to destroy his credibility. They're going to claim every every great fear is about to unfold on the American people, ignoring what the last eight years have really been. Like, I mean, the funny thing is Obama's record is atrocious. It's been atrocious. One of the reasons Hillary lost was because the Democrats have ruined pretty much everything related to the economy and foreign policy. And for Obama, you know, he there's what's gonna happen. Let me give you the bottom line here. Because the president didn't believe in the constitution, because the president ruled by executive fiat, because the president sought to bypass Congress. Well, it's gonna be simple to undo much of the damage that he's done. And it's gonna be done with the stroke of a pen. I mean, in the first you know, from what I understand is it's gonna be ninety minutes the inaugural parade, which, by the way, you know, it's nice, pomp, circumstance, all that sort of thing. I guess it's really nice, But at the end of the day, you want the next president to get in there and start getting some things done. And one of the things I'd like to see is I'd like to see Trump get to work. So the Democrats are out there because one of the first things they're gonna do after he repeals all these unconstitutional executive orders is then they're gonna go forward with Obamacare. Apparently Representative Gohmert or friend, he pointed out that Speaker Ryan promised the Hasturt rule. Other words, if they don't have a majority of Republicans are not going to vote on it. He promised no amnest any, promised no trade deals. All right, So the schedule is Congress now is going to focus early and quickly on healthcare, and they may even have this done and completed before Trump takes the oath of office. And if they do, that's a pretty good thing. Now. Earlier today there was a meeting on Capitol Hill House GOP members. The Vice President elect Mike Pence was speaking to the room. He was accompanied by Kelly Anne by Ryan's previous Steve Miller Rick Dearborn. Anyway, Penn's got multiple standing ovations. Then he then he called on members of Congress to give one a speaker Ryan, I guess just being gracious, and then Penn said the most important thing I want to hear out of him and Donald Trump, which is we need to be in the promise keeping business from this day forward. And that's really a way of a nice way of saying, you guys that made all these promises appealing replacing Obamacare and only gave the Republican Party and and those that voted for you show votes and wouldn't use your constitutional power of the purse. It's basically saying to them, get a spine and don't go wobbly on us. And this is your opportunity to fix it. Not only is it their opportunity, it's their obligation. There's a very specific agenda that I voted for in this election. I want the corporate tax rate down to Ryan wants at at twenty. It's currently at thirty five. It's one of the highest in the industrialized world. I'd like to see it as one of the lowest. I'd like to see all those burdens and regulations wiped away with a stroke of a pen. I'd like to see seven brackets become three. I'd like to see the middle class get a tax cut. I'd like to see the vetting of refugees begin. I want to see the wall begin to go up. I want to see Obamacare repealed. I want to see health savings accounts. You know, I'm reading today that they can't come to consensus on how to replace Obamacare. Well, the answers, the free market, portability, pre existing conditions, you know, job to job, take it, be able to compete across state lines. This is not complicated. I want to see this country become energy independent in four years. I want to see education go back to the States. I want to see that America's committed to not allowing people that our national intelligence agencies all warn us they're gonna infiltrate the refugee population in the country. This is not hard. Yes, they do need to be in the promise keeping business from this day forward. And when they said in elect US we'll stop unconstitutional executive amnesty, well Trump is actually going to do these things. How do I know, because I've asked him and he's told me he's going to do these things. So if he gets that done now, Chuck Schumer says, under no conditions, is Donald Trump gonna get a Supreme Court nominee passed? Well, good, luck with that, Chuck, because you're in a minority, and if you try to prevent and close up the Senate and shut it down, that blame is gonna be on your head. And finally you'll have to deal with what Republicans have been fearing for the last eight years. So my I would believe the Supreme Court nominee is going to be a solid originalist, strict constructionist. I would believe the Wall bill is gonna be passed. We're gonna build the wall. I would believe very quickly they will repeal Obamacare. And the reason Obama is racing up to Capitol Hill and and begging Senate, begging House and Senate Democrats, you know, to block Obamacare replacement plans, is because after you wipe away his executive orders, after you repeal and replace Obamacare, it's almost as if he's not been there for eight years. There is no legacy for Obama yet but for or the ten trillion dollars in debt he gave us and the judges that have lifetime appointments. Otherwise he's basically done nothing. Now, I have statistics on Obamacare that I'll share with you, and you know the numbers are not good. You didn't keep your plans, you didn't keep your doctor. Making America sick again might be a nice little focus group saying and bumper sticker by the Democrats, But we all know that it sucks. We all know we're paying a fortune more. We all know that their promises were never kept. You really can't do any worse. We all know United and Etton and all these big companies said sea because they can't make money. Because you had a Ponzi scheme where the healthy and the young were funding the health care for the rich, the elderly, and the disabled. That system was never gonna work. One. Shawn is on number. Just be listen. You better be ready for a fight this year. I'm fighting this year. I'm telling everybody right now that every single good program that's worth fighting for, I'm all in. If I disagree, I'm all out here. Get a little more. This is a great follow up thy Florida Georgia line. Did you ever hear the song Holy, so good, so good? They're getting better and better and better and better. This is dig your roots, you know, put it up a little bit seats in the house. When that closed my eyes, I can stay here and say the same thing. I'm gonna tell my kids, gotta gig down, and Tres just live get a little more. They just get better and better and better. And I still just you know. And it's funny because you hear all these new bands now they're trying to copy f gl. It's sort of like I do my TV show, whatever I do the next night. Oh that's I'll take Kennedy's guest. It's happened for twenty one years. That's why I can't make announcements to what we're doing on this program, because you've got these copycats that are lazy and don't have an original thought in their head. Well I digress anyway. Um, So Obama is scared to death because he knows what's coming. It's gonna be like he was never there, except we still have his ten trillion dollars in debt, we still have the bad judges that he made, the appointments that he made. But after that, nothing is going to exist. He has no legacy. I mean that's a problem. I mean, he's touting his legacy. He's out there, he's hitting Twitter now to celebrate his legacy. And he started the new year by dusting off his Twitter account, which he doesn't use a whole lot, sending off a series of messages about his accomplishments as president. As we look ourhead to the future, I wanted to take a moment to look back on the remarkable progress that you made possible these past eight years, he wrote. And then he needed to share some charts, one showing the end of the financial crisis. We acted on a global scale to save the one planet we've got. He actually said that, Oh my, oh boy, now I have the real statistics. But it's really a pathetic thing to watch him, I think, deep down in his heart, which is why he went to talk to the Democrats today. I think you you need to start referring to the new GOP health plan. Is trump Care? Why? Because he knows that Obamacare has done and he's trying to save it because he has no legacy. You know, they they're out there saying Valerie Jarrett's claiming it's a scandal free administration. It's as honest as if you like your doctor and you like your plan, and you're gonna save on average per family a year. The truth the matter is, you can't just make stuff up. That's one thing that you learn as president of United States, you get called into account. And what about that that great stimulus heist doubles ready? Wasn't those shovel ready? Well, that didn't work out too well? Or Operation Fast and Furious. They claim they had no scandals. Okay, what about Eric Holder held in contempt of Congress? Remember that whoopsie daisy. Then you got spying on journalists, remember that little scandal. Remember the I R S scandal targeting conservative groups. Remember Benghazi and all the lies, Hillary Clinton's secret server, the Pigford scandal, which is the you know that's a landmark lawsuit from the Bill Clinton era, but a program meant to compensate minority farmers, uh and anybody. But apparently that was mishandled. Then you got the n S A spying scandal, and you got the bow Berg Doll scandal. Then you got the Iran Nuclear Deal ransom payment scandal. Then you got the g S A scandal, When you got the v A deathless scandal. Then you got the so Lingder scandal. Then you got the Secret Service Gone wild scandal. Although I don't really blame them too much, I know to any of these guys are good guys, and they put their life on the line for their country, and on a day off, if they feel like having a little bit of you know, something to drink, good for them. They deserve it. Um let's see. So they claim it was scandal free. They have been riddled with scandals. And now the president pretty much is having a temper tantrum and doing everything he can possibly do to make Donald Trump's life miserable and upend the you know, for him to go in and start saying, don't support the new president because it's going to impact the one piece of legislation that that did not did not meet one single promise that he made, which was Obamacare. He did spend a ton of money on vacations. We know it was, you know, he'd he loved to spend exorbitantly frequent vacations. He spent a hundred million dollars, it's estimated, on vacations, lifestyles other Richard famous Matha's Vineyard, beautiful Matha's Vineyard, and of course the entire island is mesmer eyes by by Barack Obama's appearance. And then it'll be jetting off to beautiful Hawaii where he'll be spending an enormously extravagant two weeks at somebody's compound that's giving it to him. It's that, you know, it's at least Donald true. The funny thing about Donald Trump, the White House is gonna be a step down. I've been inside of Trump Tower, I've been inside his residence and it's, uh, it's pretty extravagant. I gotta I actually said to him one day, I said, you're actually allowed to sit in these things? Can you sit in the chair these? You know, you feel like you're going to your grandmother's house and you can't sit in the chairs. And Grandma tries to protect the furniture with that stupid plastic crap that is so uncomfortable you don't even want to sit in it. I mean, what's the point of having furniture if you can't sit in the stupid thing? And I'm looking at you know, you're drinking a cup of coffee in his house and I'm thinking, holy crap, if I spill on this carpet, I'm dead. I've worked the rest of my life to pay for the ore pit. And they got these extravagantly painted, hand painted ceilings and everything's gold, even the bathroom toilet is gold. It's true. I went to I went to the bathroom when I was there. I really did, I swear to God. Uh, it's pretty funny. So it's a big step down for him. He's probably you know, the funny thing is he'll probably want to use Trump Jet one instead of air Force one because it's more configured the way he likes it. He's got a gold shower in it, and he's got his bed. Well, they got a bet an air Force one too, but he's gonna need, obviously the technological advances of of air Force one. But he's not gonna like it. He's gonna be comparing it to his own plane. It's hilarious. But you know, one of the things that I love about Trump is the guy works. I've talked to him at Sunday night, at midnight, and he's working, and he's all he wants to do is talk about the country. Even every single day I had contact with you know, I'm always trying to get information. I'm always working. Even want him off. Every single day of his vacation, he worked every single day. He was meeting with people. Every he didn't take a day off. He played, He played golf, once with Tiger Woods. How do you say no to playing with tiger woods. I'd love to play with tiger woods. Well, there would be a waste of his time. The way I hit the ball, all right, Hang on, tiger, how do I get it to go? It either goes left or right. Never, it tends to go right more than left. Didn't have more of a slice than a hook. Like everything else in my life, it goes right. So it's it's gonna be like he never existed? Why are you Why is everybody laughing? Why are you laughing so hard at me today? Which I liked a lot better than when I left for vacation, and you were so cranky towards me when I was leaving. Oh, you're making me change the schedule. You're working on a Friday. You told me you're gonna be off. You want to go back into the history or can't we just move forward? You're saying wacky stuff today. What what did I say that? Are you talking about gold? It's very different, it's very different. Oh, you guys are cracking me up. Well, in case you're interested, if they're saying that this is gonna be Trump Care, Well, here's the good part. On average, the average American family since Obama became president is paying more per year. If you look at an average twenty seven year old, they have an individual mandate penalty of oh, let's see, it's a five over the years. And if you look at the different states and what they're paying, well, the average premiums are increasing this year seventeen depends largely where you live. Premiums in twenty I'm sorry, thirty one states are going up by double digits, even though on average we're now paying fifty more than what Obama became president, and he's now lobby against this. You know, you look at some of these states, so how much Arizona hundred and sixty percent increase, Oklahoma increase, Tennessee six percent increase, Minnesota increase, Alabama, Pennsylvania, Nebraska, you know some of California's at seven percent. They already steal all your money in California anyway, so it doesn't matter. Um and all these other states that are highly tax like New York sixteen point six percent, we're already paying a fortune into this anyway. You pay a ten percent state tax. But if you want to look at Obama now with this congressional Democrats. They failed to save his healthcare law. They've ignored the most harmful effects where people. Why do all these companies get out of it? Because they can't make money the way it was designed. They can't provide the coverage as it was promised. That's why people lost their doctors, lost their plans. Even Chuck Schumer admitted Obamacare was a mistake and that it wasn't the change that Americans wanted. Obamacare premiums this year alone and going up dramatically all across the country after you've already paid more than you're paying back in two thousand and nine. Now that that's this is this is ridiculous. You know, make America sick again. America's sick and tired of paying these rates. You know what, the best premium you can get if you're young, get a catastrophic plan. That's what you need to get. Get with a fairly high deductible, maybe five thousand, maybe ten thousand. This way, you don't run to the hospital if you're young and you're stub your toe. But if God forbid, you get cancer, you have a heart attack, you're in a bad accident, well then you get full care after you pay your deductible. If you're an older person, you probably have Medicare, some type of of premium or Medicaid premium that you have to pay some supplemental insurance. It's relatively inexpensive. It's not that bad. There is growing skepticism. We'll get into this with new gingridg in the next hour over the Russian hack claims. Finally, after my interview with Julian Ossang, we only aired half of it and we don't have time to air the other half tonight. Maybe I'll air it over the weekend. Anyway, the press picked up on a point that I was making, and that is that China hacked over twenty three million Americans and our government in and Obama never said a word about it. Well, now we have Josh Ernest, chief propagandists. Well he's out there. It's, you know, making the same claims. Russia did it, Russia did it, Russia did it, but there's no evidence of it. As a matter of fact. Is Investor's Business Daily points out a growing body of evidence is out there suggesting that Obama and the administration and Hillary and their claim that Russia hack the election is nothing more than a politically politically motivated hoax. Let me interpret that a lie. Let me interpret that propaganda anyway. They chronicled the rising tide of skepticism. Later in the program. We have some cyber experts on with us, and they'll they'll give us their best take on it. But Obama's decision to expel Russian diplomats, why didn't he do it to the Chinese? And he didn't because it didn't advance a political agenda. Well, now the headline on Drudge even as we speak today is what uh that Obama is sending forces to the Russian border? What is he gonna have a showdown in his final sixteen days against Vladimir Putin? He's gonna lose. Vladimir Putin has already made him look like a fool multiple times during his presidency. I know that the Prime Minister of Israel can't wait to get rid of him, and I know the rest of the world can't wait to get rid of them. For all the talk about you know, this is a guy that gets a Nobel Peace Prize on day one. You know, you name one part of the world that's better off since Obama has been president. It's not Benghazi, it's not Libya, it's not North Africa, it's not a rack, it's not Syrious, it's not Afghanistan. It's not China. There's no reset, it's not North Korea, and it's not Chinese. The Chinese anyway, kind of easy. A court gives Trump finals say in Obama's anti fracking lawsuit of federal court has just decided President Trump will have the last word on Obama's anti fracking lawsuit. Federal court wednesday delayed oral arguments in an appeal by the Obama administration to reinstate fracking rules on federal lands that a lower court had voided before they went into effect. The decision by the Denver based ten Circuit Court of Appeals to push back arguments to January sevent from January seventeenth to March twentie means the Trump administer gration will manage the federal government's appeal case. Goodbye, see you later done. Seattle officials are using taxpayer funds to organize an inauguration protest? Do they really think this is gonna work? These snowflakes really think they're gonna have an impact? By the way, Hillary email hacker Goosefer he now says, just like Julian Assang, it wasn't the Russians, you know, anyway. Speaking from a prison thirty seven miles away on the latest diplomatic dust up between the US and Russia, Marcel Lazar told Fox News that he doubts Obama's administration and Hillary's accounts and allegations that Moscow directed cyber attacks against democratic groups. In this guy is known as Goosefer. He described the administration's allegation of Russian cyber attacks during the elections as part of a fake cyber war. And there is real cyber war and it is happening. Well, that doesn't matter. Obama urges Democrats to block Obamacare replacements. That's so funny. The first big fight of this new Congress will be over healthcare. Republicans are plotting and soon we'll be executing a full care, full scale assault on the three pillars that support the American health care system, the Affordable Care Act, Medicare, and Medicaid. The Republican plan to cut healthcare wouldn't make America great again. It would make America sick again and lead to chaos. Instead of affordable care, Republicans would create chaos in the health care system because they're stuck between a rock and a hard place. They have no idea what to put in place of the Affordable Care Act. For years they've talked about repeal, but for five years now they have had nothing to put in its place. Now the Republicans say repeal and replace. The only thing that has going for it is alliteration. They have no replacement plan. They have no replacement plan because they just they can't they can't agree, they don't have the votes for a replacement plan. So to repeal and then delay as an act of cowardice. That means we don't really know what we're doing, and it recognizes it recognizes that, uh the consequences to them of just straight out repeal without some replacement. So we have a values debate on our hands it, but it's very personal in the lives of the American people. This is part of an initiative that is part of the Ryan budget that says we're going to voucherize Medicare, We're going to block grant Medicaid. So this has a tremendous assault on the health and the health security and the financial security that goes with what the Affordable Care Act has done for the America in people, and so make America sick again? Is that what the Republicans want to do? I certainly hope not hopefully we can work together to find a path to address some of the concerns they may have, but not to undermine this pillar of economic and health security to the American people. It stands right there with Social Security, which they want to undermine, Medicare and Medicaid which they want to undermine. Affordable Care Act. So the President asked us, are you ready? You have the fight in you? He didn't need to ask us that question. I don't think repeal Affordable Care Act that's a problem. Lifetime limits, that's a problem. If you're a senior, you know Medicaid. Almost half of Medicaid is about long term health care. Do you want grandma living in the guest room? You you repeal the Affordable Care Act? Doom and gloom the Obama agenda in three hours because he didn't want to go through Congress. Seventy of what he has done will be gone with the stroke of a pen. Then Obamacare will be gone with the stroke of a pen. After a couple of days debate and Obama death desperately trying to cling to whatever legacy he thinks he might have. Went to Congress today a rare visit floated the idea that Democrats start referring to the GOP's new healthcare plan as Trump Care. The president urged fellow Democrats to not rescue Republicans by helping them pass replacement measures. According to sources in the room, I think about this. Once you overturn all the executive orders, because the president didn't really believe in the constitution separation of powers and coequal branches of government. That just means the next president can done do all undo all the damage with a stroke of a pen. There might be as many as three thousand or more executive orders repealed and rescinded. There's gonna be. They've now cut back the inaugural parade ninety minutes. They're cutting back on the number of inaugural balls that Donald Trump will attend. He says he wants to get to work. It doesn't feel like doing all of the nonsense anyway. Simple basic statistics and facts. Millions of Americans lost their plans, millions of Americans lost their doctors. The average American family since two thousand and nine when Obama became president, is paying four thousand one dollars more in insurance per year. In other words, we didn't save on average dollars a year per family in spite of all of those increases in the last eight years. This year alone, the average increase around the country for premiums is up thirty five totent, in some states well over a hundred percent increases. So, yes, the Republicans are going to repeal. Republicans are going to despite all the harmful effects Etna United UH Blue Cross Blue Shield in some states, all the all the disastrous impacts of the health law. Now they want to say, you broke it, you own it. Well, there's nothing. It's already broken. It's been destroyed. And under Obamacare, this year alone, every American is seeing double digit increases in their premiums. They can't afford it. They were not promised this. Obama repeatedly promised healthcare policies and costs would go down and go down dramatically, and that service would improve and improve dramatically. So the President went to meet with House and Senate Democrats. Today they want to block repeal efforts because it's the only thing left to what is called a legacy. Otherwise it's like he was never there. Even Chuck Schumer said in fourteen admitted Obamacare is a mistake and it wasn't the change Americans wanted anyway. The headline is Obamacare ten higher prices, fewer choices. Premiums are rising by more than twenty double digits in almost every state for Obamacare plans that literally are providing less services than ever before. Premiums for the mid level Silver plans are increasing by an average of That comes on top of the seven point five pc increased last year. Bronze level plan Front plans are up some odd percent as well this year that was on top of last year. Premiums for the two highest level plans, well, they're up by twenty two and fiftent respectively, on top of the plans that they had last year that went up dramatically. So you only have a handful of people eight point four million Americans according to Obama's own Department of Health and Human Services, in maybe even higher. The President said handful of people would take a hit from the healthy insurance premium increases. Well, no one ends up being almost everybody anyway. Joining us to discuss and debate all of this is our good friend Jeffrey Lord. Jeff suffers over at the Clinton News Network, and he wrote the best selling book What America Needs, The Case for Trump. Leslie Marshall to host of The Leslie Marshall Show, a Fox News contributor, Leslie, will you admit that the promises that were made over and over again, keep your doctor, keep your plans, save money never came to fruition? I will admit a few things. One no, no, no, no, no no no, Sean. I will admit that the President didn't realize that the and the Democrats did not realize that the insurance companies did what they will do with a Trump Care plan as well, by the way, will increase premiums because they will do exactly what they've always done, and prior to Obamacare, the increased periments at a much higher rate than we're seeing them being increase now, which is they change plans all the time. They change plans that have doctors within them, and then change plans have doctors about them. So I would agree that the President was wrong when he said, if you want to keep you doctor, you can, just like Kelly and Conway's claimed today that no one will lose their healthcare is also incorrect. Well, I think in the interim that's going to be true, but it's not going to be a top down, government run healthcare system which Obamacare finish. You have a terminal illness, you may not make it. And you know for that interim, well, you know, Republicans want old people to die, right, Republicans want dirty air, dirty water, and they want old people to die. So money are you to think that, Sean that Jeffrey, are you trying I'm older, aready told the future? It already there's trying to scare old people. Go for Donald Trump's suicide path exactly. Anyway, you know, the bottom line is it didn't work. All the big insurers got out of it. People have no options whatsoever. They were funneled into the government system, and which I predicted at the time would happen. And I've got to imagine the free market, competition and portability, and you can also preserve pre existing conditions for people as part of the new bill. I think would be a smart thing to do. But at the end of the day, you can't make it any worse than it is. Jeffrey, I mean, I mean things like portability, being able if you live in Pennsylvania and you you see a plan in California, that's the tract of being able to buy across state lines. Those things are important, Sean, I can tell you. During the election, yes, I now have something of a recognizable face. I was stopped all the time by people. And your number one plane was Obamacare. And a lot of Trump supporters want to keep their plan. You know that. I've Trump supporters stopping me at the airport, Leslie, Leslie, I'm telling you. I'll give you an example. One guy stopped me. He'd had a stroke from which he'd recovered. He had to deal with Obamacare. He was furious, he was living and what would he have done with telling me about it? And he was voting for Donald Trump? What would he have done without insurance? Well, but but that's Leslie, he'd probably had I assume he had insurance before this. I mean, you took insurance away from millions and millions and millions of people. You have tarraft was not for the people who insured the people that didn't have insurance because they have pre existing conditions, because they couldn't afford Leslie. I'll say, now, what I said at the time, and what I heard John say, if you want to find the system that gives insurance to people who don't have it, do that, but don't wreck the rest of the system for the people who are perfectly happy. But you know this part of the wreckage not only to health which lacked prevention and quader emergency rooms and led to so many hospitals closing and a deficit of healthcare professionals versus the number of people coming into those e r s. There just isn't the volume to treat the volume coming into people who are sick. That's what we're going to see happen if there's no replacement plan in place, if there's no transition, and you're gonna have affordable Care Act Leslie. We have tried it your way, We've done it the President's way. And I can tell you when I when I saw the front page headline and the Harrisburg Patriot News before the election a couple of weeks before the election, that premium increases had sword. I think the headline was, but it varied. It was much more than that. I think depending on where you were in the situation of what kind of plan you had. I mean people were infuriated. I mean, how blame them, But look at the look Puffordable Care Act and the percentages of those premiums and those increases. We need to do that to be fair and factual. Well but but leslie on, I'm just telling you the political result of what the president did resulted in Hillary Clinton's defeat that I don't know. I don't agree with you. I agree there's a lot of reasons she was defeated, and I don't think that the Affordable Care Act was the main thing, based on not only the exit polls and now people don't like to believe in holes, but it was a lot more than that. Jeffrey African Americans in US people stayed home, she didn't visit. I mean the blue collar are ages and ages and ages. Government run health care systems. I mean, that is the role of government. If you want to talk about the role of government infant structure, I mean, good lord. The Republican platform of eighteen fifty six was advocating the federal government play a role in building canals and roads. That's fine, but healthcare. This does not work to have in Washington. You're telling me in the middle of Pennsylvania, what my health care plan has got to be and what's acceptable and what's not does not work periods. So you're telling us Medicare does not work, Medicare is in debt, Medicare will collapse if they don't fix it. I don't. I don't. Maybe first of all, I don't agree. I don't agree. And quite frankly, it doesn't matter just going se mients of our population or senior citizens who are going to get screwed with this repeal. And also if there is any kind of as a hatchet taken as Republicans having the pastor threatened to to to medicare, well, Leslie, all I'm telling you is we had the election. This played a key role in this election, and as Sean Well knows and and hammered these Republicans over and over and over again, when they had the opportunity to do something about it by using the powers of the person in the House, they didn't do it. That's one of the reasons Donald Trump is the president elected not you know, one of these other seventeen Republican candidates could be music you played that Doom and Gloom theme music that you played that was played by Republicans for years and over fifty attempts to repeal the Affordable Care Act, one could say, bordering an obsession, Well, leslie, we're just I mean, it's been done. It's been done. The President got his way, and as I recall correct, at least can we agree on this? You are we can we on this. We can at least get you know, you know, be able to sleep in the same room, or we're marry Here here's the bottom line is I love these sex analogies in the middle of a healthcare debase people by both sides. Do you agree with me on that? Let me let me end this by saying, this Obamacare, every promise was never fulfilled. Every healthcare provider is bailing out. It's collapsing of its own weight. This year alone, we have double digit increases. We were promised to say, keep our doctors, our care and save on average a year. It didn't happen. We can't that did. Excuse me? None of the major promises were kept. None. Zero. You tell that to the person that waited online like our vets forever to get crappy inferior care. That's not what they signed up for. That's not what they were promised. And we gotta run. It's gone anyway, the Obama legacy. The only thing we're stuck with is his debt and is horrible judicial appointments. The president elects be quoting Julian Assage, Mr speak, I'm not gonna get into the last thing I'm gonna do is start commenting in every little tweeter or Facebook post um. That is just not what I do with the president elect or when he's president. I think he has not received his Russia briefing yet. I believe that schedule for Friday, so hopefully he'll he'll get up to speed on on what you know has been happening and what Russia has or has not done, and he'll be better informed on that. Then let me ask you what your opinion is of Julian Assage. I really have none other than I think the guy is a sycophant for Russia. He um leaks, he steals data and um and compromises national security, and he's wanted on a rape chart. Yeah right, And I think he's in her house arrestor he's he's isn't in the Ecuadorian embassy. Yes, it was like the last four years. Yeah, yeah, what they didn't say, by the way, and it came up with the interview was well, actually the women have not been pursuing the case, that it's the government, and that Sweden wouldn't talk to us songs for five years now. I don't know what happened. Of course, I want justice if there's any sort of or type of assault, but I also know historically false charges are often made, especially against people that expose political corruption in particular, It's not unusual. So I have an open mind, just like I didn't know Richard Jewel case, just like I did in the Ferguson case, just like I did in the Freddie Gray case, just like I did in the Trayvon Martin case. And in every instance I was right there, and the Duke Cross case another one. I happen to have a pretty good track record of being right when so many others rush to judgment in our wrong. Anyway, eight nine one, Shawn, is a toe free number. We're gonna get to your calls here in a second. But first joining us to weigh in on that comment and much much more is former Speaker of the House new Kingbridgements to Speaker, how are you and what do you think about the assungs fascinating by the way, Uh, the interview that you had the last night, and I get it will be a little bit more of it yet tonight. UH. And I thought it was very aggressive on your part to you know, work it out, talk your way into the Ecuadorian embassy. UH, fly to London and do really the only in depth interview I know of with the song. I found him, and I was asked by a number of people, and then I actually had a poll at the end of the program for people to go on Facebook and Twitter. Overwhelmingly, if I had to guess, believed a songe over Obama and Clinton. Does that surprise you? I think it's a comment on how much um Obama and Clinton and their team have devalued honesty in the US government. I um the song very sophisticated. Guy this morning who UH was sitting with his wife watching the TV news and the has some comment about the CIA. UH, and they both said, Sponge just boarded out. Don't believe them now. It's a sad commentary when the president states is so politicized intelligence that neither the Director of National Intelligence nor are considered believable anymore. And yet that's exactly what we are, because that's what Obama has done. The thirteen page report authored by the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security, did you see it at a huge disclaimer? Did you see that they offered no specific evidence that Russia was involved. Isn't it a little bit odd to you that last year, well two years ago, that twenty three million separate and attacks by the Chinese government and Obama never said a word, never threw out a single diplomat, And he only brought up this narrative after the election, after the recount didn't work. And I have to agree with a sang And it's something I've been saying. I think you've been saying, is this seems to be an attempt to delegitimize Donald Trump's victory. Well, you know the I think that's the entire purpose of this exercise. Um, it is almost pathetic to watch Obama bouncing around desperately in the post election period. I think he believed the pollsters just as Hillary did. I think he was confident that his legacy was going to be protected by Hillary's election. I think he's still in a state of shock, in a state of denial, and I think that the Left is desperate to find an explanation for their defeat that isn't them. And so if they can run around and say the Russians did it, the Russians didn't, they somehow think that makes them look better than if they ending up saying that that. You know, the American people looked at it, and the Senator Cirrus. Yet yet the truth is, and you know it, and the country knows it. They were fired because the country was tired of them. Well, I know it, you know it, and I think you're a thousand percent right. Let me move on. I'd be negligent if I didn't get to the Republicans in the battle on healthcare, which is now beginning. A couple of points in order. Representative Gomert of Houston said that Peaka Ryan promised the haste rule, no amnesty, and no trade deals. What are your thoughts and uh, do you have confidence that the speaker is going to work with the Trump agenda? What you call Trump is um Well, it's anythink Paul Ryan has moved within that framework and has begun to modify activities in the House, just as Mitch McConnell's begun to modify thinking in the Senate. I mean, you know, Trumper is a fact. He's going to be president. He's gonna have the full weight of the White House. He's going to have enormous capacity with it, with his power between Twitter and Facebook and everything else he does. Um, you know, you you now have you move from the bully Polper to the bully social media, and uh, he is going to be a constant presence. I think. Uh, that doesn't mean they're always going to agree, nor should they. You know that the funding fathers set up a division of authority between the executive and legislative branch for very deliberate reasons to protect exceed them and then and then I operate that way. And on the other hand, I would say that you're not going to get any ambassy. Remember you're not a totally different environment because now instead of having to worry about the Obama Veto, now you have a Trump Vito, and Trump's not going to be run over by the Congress. And furthermore, having a Republican House and Senate. I don't I think they're mostly going to do things he will be comfortable with. You know, I did like Kelly and Conway, Ryan's previous Uh, Stephen Miller, Richard Dearborn, Rick Dearborn, and Mike Pence, the Vice President elect, all went to Capitol Hill today and they he got a standing ovation on multiple occasions, and Penn stated, we need to be in the promise keeping business from this day forward. I was really glad to hear that, because that's not only an antidote for the country to keep the promises they made on the campaign trail, but it's also good politics when you're able to go when you're up for re election, you get to say, well, I told you I do this, and I did this. I promised this, we did this, and that was something of course that was well. That was the key to how we kept the House for the first time since because in the election we could go around and say, here's the contract with America, here are the votes we promised. We did exactly what we said we would do, and people gave us a lot of credibility. Even if they disagreed sometimes with the details, they really appreciated the fact that we're keeping our word. I think Trump is going to have the same effect, and I think it's going to start with his Supreme Court nominee. It's going to start with his cabinet, and it's going to start with all the various executive orders that he was since in the first two or three days of the new administrations. Well, what do you make of Obama? Because look, I think that because Obama basically ruled by executive fiat, Donald Trump can wipe out seventy of everything Obama did with the stroke of a pen in the first few hours of being president. Now they're moving forward with their healthcare bill, which is to repeal Obamacare. Democrats think they're lever and they came up with a slogan that says make America Sick again. Republicans are not united on what the replacement plan ought to be. To me, it's obvious it ought to be healthcare savings accounts. And Chuck Schumer has vowed that he will do everything in his power to obstruct Donald Trump making a Supreme Court appointment. How how would you advise them to go forward? Meaning the Trump team. First of all, I'd advise m okay, but talk about talk about leading with your chin. You know why don't you? Jost I told him of this morning. You remind me of Charlie Halleck, who was the old Republican leader back in the sixties under John F. Kennedy, and that how I basically went around yelling no, no, no, Well, that kept the Republican Party in the minority for a generation. I mean, if if, if this becomes the anti Trump scream though and stop everything Democrats, they're just gonna get killed in the two thousand and eighteen elections. Well, I think it's clear they're moving forward with a repeal and replace. So I nna care what should it be replaced with? Donald Trump's promise was health savings accounts, Well, their health ins accounts will be a piece of it. Returning dramatically greater flexibility to states for Medicaid will be a piece of it. Uh, Strengthening the relationship between doctors and patients will be a piece of it. I mean, I've tried to tell people, having worked on health issues since ninety four, it's not it's not going to be a get it all done in ninety days and then you can relax. Health is one out of every five dollars in the American economy. It is life and death for every single American, and it has huge institutions that are dedicated to different aspects of health. You're going to deal with it every month of the eight years of the Trump administration. It's just a fact. And I think you have to get into sort of understanding that that will fix some pieces. This one will fix some more pieces next month. Some of the things we fixed won't stay fixed. I won't have to go back and rethink them. Uh. But that's the way this is going to evolve. But the core of it's going to be more decentralization, more choice for individuals, more focused on the patient doctor relationship, dramatically faster, ability to get new science and new technology to help people not be trapped by bureaucracy, and much more honestly about costs. Uh. You know, the left would love to destroy the insurance industry and be able to go straight to a Canadian or British style government run system. I think can certainly have to have the opposite view. We want a healthy system and which is honest about economics, which gives everybody an incentive to do the right things. And we want competition and competition between hospitals. We want information about different choices you have as a patient, and we want information out there about what your range of choices are in health insurance, including health savings accounts, which were many people, will be far and away the best possible answer in the long run. Well, the mantra of the Democrats is making them America sick again, and you break it, you own it. But on the other hand, you've got other Democrats now in the Senate, in particular, if the Democrats go really obstruction as they're going to pay a price, they have far more seats up for grabs and swing states as the Republicans, which means it's likely that if things go well in the next two years, that Republicans could increase their majority in the U. S. Senate. But Chuck Schumer's pointing out that if you you need sixty votes for culture in the U. S. Senate, Republicans have fifty two Senate members, they're in the majority. If they try to block any attempt of Donald Trump to put forward to Supreme Court nominee, you only need fifty one votes to get the nominee passed. How does that play out in your view? Well, for me, first of all, I don't think that it's gonna be very plausible that they're going to be able to block any effort to get the Senate vote on one on the person that that President Elect Trump sends up as his Supreme Court nominee. And I think your points a really key one. There are ten senators, ten Democrats up for re election in states good Donald Trump carried. Now, how do they go home and explain that they're gonna obstruct the brand new administration that their state voted for without paying a very substantial price among their own citizens and being put in a position more candidly they might get defeated just because they look like the I think that's a very real part of this. Well, and then they're the same people that have been claiming forever that in fact that the Republicans are obstructionists. That would make them obstructionists. You know what is a guy like Joe Manchin gonna do? What is? Uh? The misiotution has already been very strongly outspoken about this whole strategy, and as a huge language I won't repeat on a radio show to describe how stupid he thought they were in adopting this kind of strategy. Clare McCaskill, she wants to get re elected. I think people are gonna be watching very closely in Missouri how she's acting um. One of the things that I think is most difficult is any transition. If you remember, I think Obama and I looked at it very cynically, but maybe you can look at it from another point of view and say he was very clever to spread out the negative impacts of Obamacare. But on average, the average family has seen their premiums go up in the last eight years, and we're seeing increases of a hundred percent in some states this year, double digits in every state around the country this year, and a lack of choices as at New United and other big healthcare providers about bailed out of this. How do you make the transition once you repeal the bill, Well, I think you're gonna have to find some some methods of subsidizing people so that they make the transition. But you don't want to do You don't want to force people who currently have health insurance to to lose it because then you do have a really big problem, and you don't want to be the party to kick people off health insurance. And so I think they've got to find some transition rules. You've got to find some ways and candidate. This in part means you got to sit down with the insurance companies. You have to sit down with the doctors and hospitals and understand all the different moving parts. I mean there are I think something like a third of the counties in rural America now only have one insurance company left in the individual market. I mean that that is very unhealthy because you have no competition. And so did that. It designed some some new approaches and some new rules to get people back in the game and to make it profitable for people to go out and to serve their communities. And this is just again, if if you're a liberal Democrat, these words sound terrible because it actually implies somebody might make a profit. But if you believe in the free market and you believe in how it works, you know that you've got to have some opportunity for people to have a better future. But they just won't go do the work. All right, We'll have a lot more, a lot will develop between now and the time we get on air tonight at ten eastern on the Fox News Channel. Former Speaker of the House New King Rad's these this first hundred days, two hundred days is going to be some of the most riveting and fascinating times in our country's history. It's gonna be it's gonna be fun to watch it and be a part of it. Uh forward, Yeah, me too, all right, thank you, Mr Speaker, Talk to you soon. The US government is accusing Wiki Leaks of having received these materials from Russia, and you say it's false, it did not come from Russia. And the President of the United States is advancing the narrative. Is the President of the United States lying to the American people? Well, he's acting like a lawyer. If you look at most of his statements, he doesn't say that. He doesn't say Wiki Leaks obtained its information from Russia, worked with Russia, just trying to influence Yes, so he and you also note that he doesn't say, ah, I from the statements that I've read, he doesn't say that Russia was trying to influence the election for Donald Trump. Our publications had wide uptake by the American people. They're all true. Um, but that's not the allegation that is being presented by the Obama White House. So why is such a dramatic response. Well, the reason it's obvious they're trying to delegitimize Trump administration as it goes into the White House. They're going to try. They are trying to say that UH President elect Trump UH is not a legitimate US And I ask you this. Have you ever talked to Vladimir Putin? Have you ever talked to any of his surrogates? Have you ever talked to Donald Trump any of his surrogates? No, not one. There was some report that you might have talked to somebody who was not associated with the campaign, Roger Stone, No, that's false. I think where this roger Stone claim is coming from is ah. There's a radio guy on w b A I, which is a mutual friend who was who wanted to come and see me to see if I would set up a radio show on w b A I. But he didn't. He did come to London, but he didn't meet with me. We published, as part of our policy of full disclosure, not interfering with the material, we published the UH several Podester emails, which shows Podesta responding to a few email Now how did they respond? But for tess the game about that his password was the word password. His own staff said, this email that you've received, this is totally legitimate. So this is something a fourteen year old kid a fourteen year old kid could have hacked based on the test of that way relations to computer security and Hillary Clinton's security for the Secretary of State emails. If you read closely FBI reports and the emails that we released related to Hillary Clinton, you'll see whom Aberdeen had access to them. A variety of technicians at this very small I T company had access to them now shipped through the poster in a laptop. She had over a dozen different devices keyed in to have access to them, her iPad, etcetera. She made almost no attempt to keep them secure from states. Now, what's she trying to keep them secure from the Republicans? So probably, But in terms of all right news roundup and information overload, our Sean Hannity show gladual with us are told free number is one, Shawn if you want to be a part of the program. Tremendous response to the Julian Assange interview. The sad part is we only ran about half of it during the full hour of last night's show. We're gonna air a little bit more of it tonight. But there's so many issues going on in Washington, including the Obamacare battle and some weak Republicans that we we've got to delve into. As I warned you yesterday, this is gonna be a daily fight that is non stop. But as it relates to the issue of hacking, the one thing that did not surprise me the overwhelming number of people we did at the end of the program last night that believe Julian Assange over Obama and Hillary Clinton and the government. It was massive. It was overwhelming. And I can't think of a question those that aired or didn't air, that I could have asked him when I finished the interview, And there's usually one or two things I wish I would have asked. That's not the case, because he was very generous with his time. Now here's an Investor's Business Daily story out today that there's a growing body of evidence suggesting that the Obama administration's claim that Russia hacked the election maybe nothing more than a politically motivated hoax. In other words, we keep hearing about fake news. This is fake news when it comes from the government. It actually is defined another way. It's called propaganda, it's called lying, it's called manipulating the public. Anyway. Investor's Business Daily, they actually chronicled the rising tide of skepticism that is being voiced by cybersecurity experts who are not on the Obama administration's payroll. It would also expla playing the mysterious reluctance and resistance of the Obama administration to hand over to Congress, which by the way, they have an oversight role, that is their duty, that is their constitutional role, to hand over the evidence that they say they have that that resulted in thirty five diplomats and all the other sanctions now being used against Russia. And if they're doing this just for political purposes, creating an international crisis for such without any real evidence, well that tells you just how just blatantly politically motivated they are in every capacity, and it now borders on danger. Anyway, So last week even I told you about the Department of Homeland Security and the FBI their joint report that supposedly tied the Russian government into the release of the hacked Democratic National Committee documents, but they didn't provide any such evidence, and they put a massive disclaimer in the beginning of that document if you took the time to actually read it, and it's simply listed tools that are used to carry out the attack. And then assert that Russia must have been the ones who use them without any evidence and an acknowledgement that they may be wrong, and it is being cited as gospel truth now by so many people. Thirteen pages offering tips how to prevent future cyber attacks. Well, we've known for ten years about Wiki leaks, We've known for ten years about Julian Assange, we've known about Chelsea Manning, We've known about you know, all these other people out there. And at this point one asked to ask what is really going on here? Joining us is Brigadier General l Ben Meyers with us, the co founder of CSI GOV. I'm sorry, Eli ben Meyer, Uh, co founder of PSI GOV, a leading cybersecurity advisory and he is formally second in command of Israel's military intelligence. That means he knows his stuff. Also, our friend Luke Chung is back with us. He's the president of f m S and both of you welcome back to the program. Uh, Eli ben Meyer. I'll start with you, sir General, tell us what you think happened here? Well, for so, hello and thank you for having me. Um as you of course know as well as a has a letter revolutionary a way of looking at this cyber threat and cyber realm. About five years ago the Israeli Prime Minister decided to establish centralize the agency and actually established the National Cyber Agency. And from there we are in a long process of establishing the methods, the methodology and other aspects of how do you protect a nation. So when you look at it in this specific event that you were speaking about, I think that the important thing is uh, not one attack or the other, because there doesn't attacks every day or some of the number is more than a million every day, But how do you defend? And here the this this re revolutionary is really way of you adjusting analistic strategic approach and not just you know, starving one attack after another. Because what happened and if you look at it in the whole world, everybody is protecting from yesterday's attack? Is there anything go ahead? The right way is to how do you defend from tomorrow's attacks? And if that would be the case, we wouldn't be speaking about was there an attack? Who was responsible for that? But how were we successful of defending and uh making sure that that won't happen and would it wouldn't happen in the past and won't happen in the future as well. Let me ask you, Luke chung Um, if you go back just to there was over twenty three million. I mean, that's a lot of hacking done by the Chinese, a data breach by them, twenty one million, three million people at personal you know, information stolen, including the government. It was so far reaching and not a word, not a peep, not a sentence from the Obama administration about the biggest hack in history. So that tells me the fact that well after their recount didn't work, that this became politically motivated on their part. That's why they're reluctant to hand over to Congress whatever evidence they may or may not have. Well, thank you very much for having me back on the show, shun Um. You know, I don't have the details specifically on those cases. You know, we have the issue with the O m B and the security breach there of him government employees, which then you know, our counterparts around the world were able to look at that and look at the people who worked at the embassy and could figure out which ones weren't on the list and knew that they were spies, right, So that was a huge security breach for the country if they if they had evidence that Russia did this, and you heard Julian Hassan say unequivocally absolutely not, did you get any of this information, you know, from the Russians. Wouldn't it be something that would be relatively easy to prove? It's it's very hard to prove the footprints that are the trails that one leaves when one is doing these. I mean they could go either way. One could have footprints that the indicate that the culprits, or one could fake out and put footprints that blame somebody else. Um, who really did it? You know Junior Sange's comments plus a great interview by the way, Um, you know, he was very careful to not claim that the source was Russian. He just said his source wasn't and he wouldn't push that further. So, you know, I think he's being very careful with the word choices that he makes to hide where his from. But but listen, in defense of him, I mean, Wiki League's success is predicated on the secrecy and the privacy of the sources that he has. Otherwise, Wiki Leaks doesn't exist because nobody would trust them to get the information that he puts out out, and especially when you're dealing with delicate, delicate private government secrets, and in the case of Podesta emails or d n C emails, you know, whoever that source is would probably be in grave danger. Absolutely. I mean we you know, we saw that with Manning, We saw that with Snowden, Um and the data that they exposed, which which was government property as opposed to you know, the stuff that's held by political parties. Um. Uh, yeah, No, I I don't question his need to keep his sources secret. I would just point out that his word choice was. Let me ask you both this question because look, ten years ago, you mentioned Snowdon, you mentioned uh, Julian Assange, we talked about wiki leagues. Um, we have the Manning case. We have all of these instances where we know we we are being attacked in terms of all these cyber attacks are happening. We know this is going on, but we have not fixed it. Is it something that we can fix and secure not only for the government, which is our top priority, but for individuals general? What do you think? Yeah, fully agree with you. And it also relates to the It's a great interview that you had yesterday it's another example of a phenomenal that is, you know, it's an ongoing war, it's already here. It's not something that we is in the future. But still because it's such a complicated practice, how do you defend, especially big systems like federal government and state nation governments, so that the solution is either not to do anything or going through technologies. As you can see, uh, there's a lot of people all over the place that are buying a lot of nice technology, wasting tens of hundreds of millions of dollars. But actually the way to defend and and this is actually the point you are raising as well, is not by looking at from the tactical perspective of you know, buying this technology of that, but having the strategedy planning. And if you go back to what was discussing your interview yesterday, the first question is what is the enemy in the cyber world? And what we learned in Israel that the definition of enemy is different than what we used to know. And you know, those conventional wars, it's not tanked to that airplane. It's different types of enemies and other storigies. And you have to look at that and then have a relevant intelligence that is relevant for cyber it's something else than what we used to do until before. And by that you can have a whole pad. I always say, and maybe that will suppurize it that if you want to protect the forest, you cannot. It's not enough just to have every tree surrounded by offense. If you do that, the fast will still not to be protected. You have to start from protecting the whole forest and then go three by three. This is the case in big corporate, especially in government. You have to look on the government understand who are you enemies in the cyber realm. They're different than those that you used to have to do different ways to gather information, and then you can also defend, and then you can also buye technology. And there are also two different you know, problems that people face. I mean, it's one thing when someone steals your car because they broke into it. It's another thing when someone steals your car because you left the keys in the ignition. And in this case, you know, it's my understanding for us was caught in a fishing expedition where he gave away his user name and password. So once somebody has that, the computer doesn't know whether that's really a legitimate person or a criminal on the keyboard they logged in, no problem. Now they're into everything. All right. I really appreciate your expertise. Thank you both for your insight. It's profound. All right, when we come back, we'll get to your calls one Shawn. Also, Katherine Herridge has a report about the back and forth and some efforts made by Obama to release all remaining detainees at git MO. That more as we continue, are free for all our A million dollars building a soccer field. Okay, a soccer field for our prisoners that happened to be in Guantanamo. Okay, I don't like that. What do you need a million dollars to level out the surface? Let him play if they have to play at all. Okay, what do you need to spend a million dollars? A million dollars on a soccer field? How do you spend a million dollars during the soccer field? You have a level piece of land, Throw them a ball. Let them play soccer if they have to play at all. Why why they even? Why are they playing soccer? Is my question. I watched President Obama talking about GITMO, right gwintanam obey, which by the way, which, by the way, we are keeping open? Which way are keeping open? And we're gonna load it up with some bad dudes. Believe me, we're gonna load it up. But here's the thing I didn't understand. I heard this, but I didn't understand it. We spend forty million dollars a month on maintaining this place. To think of it, forty million dollars a month. I think we have what do we have left in there, like a hundred people or something. So we're spending forty million dollars. I would guarantee you that I could do it for a tiny, tiny f I don't mean like thirty nine. I mean like five, maybe three, maybe like peanuts. Alright, So we have a track record of about of GITMO detainees heading back to the battlefield, and it may be much higher. That's a fact we've been able to ascertain over the years, and and others that have been recaptured, etcetera. Anyway, before the president leaves, what is he there now? Another sixteen days? Sixteen more days. One of the things we're expecting is more transfers at a GIPMO uh to be announced by the president as he's leaving office on January, after President elect Donald Trump tweeted warning against it. Quote, I would expect that this point additional transfer to be announced before January twenty, said Josh Ernest. And then of course there was talk about him maybe even giving Gitmo back to Cuba if he could possibly do so, just like he might in the minute between you know, shift in Congress make a recess appointment of the Supreme Court, which is not going to happen, and nobody apparently is talking about it anyway. Here to weigh in on the very latest is Fox News chief intelligence correspondent, a good friend from the Fox News channel, Katherine Herridge. So what do we know about these efforts made by the president to release all these remaining detainees at GITMO and and what percentage do you have of those that have been released that have gone back into the battlefield. Well, thanks for having me, Sean. So the number of detainees left at the military base is fifty nine and the administration is indicated that they want to transfer out as many as nineteen more men before January. And I'm sure your listeners are wondering, why is it that they can transfer these men out when the Bush administration could not, and there hasn't been a change in the intelligence what's known about these men. What's really changed is that this White House has been able to have been willing to accept more risk in doing IS transfers because they've wanted to close the facility. And as one example, in twelve, they transferred out a guy who had been a cooke for Osama bin Laden Ibrahim El Cozy. He was sent back to Africa, but he is now the public face of the al Qada affiliate and Yemen. This was the group that was behind the attempted bombing of a US passenger jet in two thousand and nine over Detroit. So when these guys go back, their high risk of returning to the battlefield. And based on the decade I've covered this issue, you see them going back to very high profile positions within al Qaida or even isis Well, it's pretty amazing that he'd want to do this. It was talk over the Christmas vacation that the President was considering some type of land transfer back to Cuba, but there were legal questions surrounding the possibility of that. They're legal questions, and I would say that what he has been able to do is reduced the number at geit MO to sort of the lowest possible count, because to break it down again, you've got about eleven or twelve people who are in the military system already, including the five nine eleven suspects who fifteen years later have still not been tried for that crime. But because they're in the military legal system, they're kind of untouchable if you will, Like they can't transfer them to another country and it's hard to bring them to the United States. Then you have nineteen forever prisoners. These are people who are bad, bad enough that they just can't transfer them out, but not enough evidence to prosecute them. Then again this other nineteen that could move out. But again I would emphasize to your listeners, what's really changed has been the willingness of the White House to accept the risk that's involved in transferring these men out. And my experience is that when they do re engage with terrorism, they end up in very high profile positions and almost get MOO becomes like a badge of honor for them. It kind of makes some Jahadi rock stars in some way, and they go back to the battlefield and they can and they go back to their jihadi ways. Did you see the piece I think it was on sixty minutes about how there is a terrorist re education camp in Saudi Arabia for these guys and maybe years ago, right, yeah, And you know what's amazing about it is they get to swim in the pool. Just like, how much did we spend on that soccer field for the GITMO detainees? What do we spend hadn't you know, I hadn't thought about that soccer field. That was a story that we broke here at Fox back in like ten or twenties, um twelve. You know, they're kind of two views on the soccer field. One view on the soccer field is that it keeps them engaged. And when they're engaged, it makes it easier for our men and women who are serving there is guards to do their jobs. You know, they're not as many. Listen. I want to make it easy for them to do their job, but it's also easy to just lock them up. I totally, I totally get that, and I know you're going to appreciate this little detail. You know, that soccer field, the price of it was just under the threshold that required congressional approval. Right, what a shocker. That is just like everything else Obama does. Right. Well, anyway, that was a pretty fascinating, uh story, and it was a story that really resonated with people. You know, we did a story Sean about the medical care there and this is I don't say this distri blame our men and women who served there because their job is to give them the best possible medical care, and believe me, they are. And what we found is that the ratio of doctors and nurses to detainees was almost one to one. I mean, that is such a difference compared to what people get in the v A. I mean, you know, that's such a great comparison. I mean, we have veterans dying because of built in you know, a built literally built in corruption and a bureaucracy that rewards those that are putting our veterans on separate lists, and then when they actually get the care that they requested a year prior, then they say, oh, you only way to three days and then they get their bigness. So disgusting, and that's such a great comparison. You know, they're starting to call me on the channel to go on TV. I want to stay, but I just want to say, Bay, congratulations on your Juliana sanch interview, because you know, there's no substitute for speaking to people in person and getting them on the record, and that's what you did, and that really drove the news cycle today. I really appreciate it, and you do good work every day. Thank you so much. I'll talk to you soon, sure, of course. Katherine Harridge over the Fox News Channel, good friend, great reporter. All right, let's get to our busy phones. We'll start with Joe and Florida. Joe, Hi, how are you glad you called? Sir? Hey? How you doing? Sean? Look, I'm a U. S. Navy veteran and uh, by the way, thank you for what you do. Thank you for all you've done for your country. Well it's just a small part. I would say. I could say the same thing about you. I mean, you're you're on the front lines to it. Just we were. We were a different uniforms um But what I wanted to say was that um I was stationing Gantanomo. Bay I was a guard and um I was there and I saw those five guys that we traded out for bird Doll, which um, just absolutely I was abhorred by the decision. Um. And by the way, didn't they didn't they get to pick the most vicious and vile and committed ge honest, the leaders themselves, they were able to pick those people. Yes, Um, they were a part of what we nicknamed a lot of these guys. Um, and they were part of what we called the dirty thirty. And um they I mean you say dirty and for us it sounds like, you know, we got our hands dirty, like you need to wash him. Though. These guys were absolutely filthy and the things that they did and what they were known for was atrocious and you could see that and we sensed it being there on the blocks having to deal with these guys. And Uh. The other thing I wanted to say about the comment from the lady prior when she was talking about UM something about the soccer field and how it was a way for them to what did she say, like communicate with them and kind of um gets involved and for me it was a big mistakes. Soccer field provided relief for people, so the jihadis needed stress. Oh and by the way, we give them their the diet of their choice, we give them prayer rugs. We give them korans so they can continue to misinterpret gihad and infidels and Holy war and be reminded not to take Christians and Jews for friends. It was, it was a sad it was. It's a sad thing to hear that Obama wants to release more because we're just releasing more people that are going to go back to the fight and we've already seen that before. It's it's one of those things. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result. We put those guys in there. Some of them may not deserve to be there, but the vast majority of them do. And I was there and a lot of my friends as well. The numbers are in. We've been releasing them now for a long period of time, and many of them just go right back to the battlefield to try and kill more Americans and more other innocent you know, Western Europeans. I mean, that's what they keep doing, them and fellow Muslims for that matter. And it's a mistake and we're gonna soon learn the repercussions of that, if we haven't already. So when you were there, did you feel like we were catering to these people that were they have On a scale of one to ten, Let's say that, um, the four seasons and the rich Carlton is like a top hotel and they get a and they get a ten. A motel six is like and I've been I've stayed in all of these, or holiday in or what's that a courtyard Marriott. That's where I spend all my weekends with my kids. So let's say there are five or six where's gip mo? In that scale? They're living better than I do on these weekends at these stupid tennis tournaments. Good grief, Well, I can't say a lot because I I did you know, Well, they get to play soccer, they get they get the food that they want to eat. They can have the food that they want. They have the Korean, like you said, which we weren't allowed to touch. In fact, if you looked at it wrong, they would start a riot, and often they did. But I knew of one Djay that got a full cheesecake. I never got that. Well, why did he get a full cheesecake because he wanted to get fat or what? Because apparently he had quote unquote information that was vital to national security. I can't confirm her tonight, So we gave him a full cheesecake. I mean, I guess, how about how about we get the information and water board the guy. That's how I'd get forget the cheesecake. Ie, oh my god. Really they don't allow us to be a part of those decision making processes. But anyway, and by the way, you you weren't allowed to touch their koran, right, you weren't allowed to interrupt their prayer services there. I was not allowed to do anything to that koran. We were allowed to search anything in their cells, and we did often every day, and you couldn't touch the koran. Could not touch was the Koran. And in fact, if there was an even an allegation that we did touch it, there would be a riot, and not just on the block, but sometimes often in the whole camp. Unbelievable. You can't you can't even make this up. And this is why Trump keeps saying we're a stupid country. You're describing a stupid treat. Anyway, Well, thank you again, Sean. You're a great American. It's a privilege and honor to be on the show. Well, thank you for what you did. You know, God bless you. You were with the worst of the worst evil you got. You got to look evil in the eye. That's a pretty amazing life experience. Sad but difficult, but pretty amazing. Mike and Cincinnati KRC. Mike, you're a great American. God bless you, God bless America. This is Billy Cunningham. What can I do for you? That was a good impression show. I'm very good. I've met Bill a couple of times here. Hey, um, I was listening to yesterday and I just wanted to disagree with one thing, and you were mentioning that Trump. I think you were saying that he's going to have a very difficult time pushing through all his programs, and I just wanted to tell you I don't think so at all, and a lot of us don't. The more the liberal media and the guys like Schumer and all the and all the other politicians on the left, all of Hillary's Toady's are squirming and fighting and saying all this stuff, the more they're digging themselves in. None of us believe it, And the more they say it, the more we want Trump to just push stuff through and people. A lot of my liberal friends are us to lean a little liberal myself. I'm sick and tired of the lies and the bs that they've been unloading on us. And on top of all of that, they're stupid. Hillary made it so easy in Podesta for anybody to hack that we all now know that they were not serious people. It was all just a big joke. And we're praying to God that you keep pushing. Let me tell you what, let me let me give you a promise and a pledge. And I told you last year what my promise was that we're going to give access to every candidate. We did, that we're gonna go on the road with them. We did. We went to so many different cities, that so many different town halls, and then I supported Donald Trump proudly because that was the choice of the American people. And I'm glad we won. And I'm gonna tell you what the battle is this year. They're going to try to undermine and and betray and destroy him. Ultimately, they want to chip away day after day after day at his credibility. They've already started making America sick again. Either. Yeah, sure, that's what the Republicans want to do. They want to make America sick again. No, the Democrats, they made the health care system, they broke the whole thing. And now we're gonna try and put it back together in a way that works for everybody. But get ready, you better, you better gear up, because we're gonna need your help as this fight ensues all year long. I'm telling you right now, it's not gonna be fun every day anyway. Appreciate the call. Eight one Sean

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