The Case Against Court Packing

Published Apr 19, 2021, 10:00 PM

Carrie Severino, is chief counsel and policy director of the Judicial Crisis Network and co-author of Justice on Trial: The Kavanaugh Confirmation and the Future of the Supreme Court, and Ken Starr, author of the new book, Religious Liberty in Crisis: Exercising Your Faith in an Age of Uncertainty. Starr has argued 36 cases before the U.S. Supreme Court, including during his service as U.S. Solicitor General, and today they join to discuss the left’s efforts to pack the court. 

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All right, thanks Scott chatting Happy Monday, Gladia with us right down our toll free number. It's eight hundred and nine for one sewn. You want to be a part of the program. Closing arguments have begun in the Chauvin trial, in the George Floyd case. And you know, the things that I'm hearing, that we're watching, that we're witnessing so called leaders, it's it's beyond scary. I mean what we literally now have. If you look at this year alone, how's this defund the police effort worked out for everybody? We have one hundred cops killed already this year, killed by gunfire in the line of duty. Chicago had a record murder year last year. It's already up thirty three percent from last year. This year. New York City's up fifty eight percent from last year. Another and it went up, it went up dramatically last year. Louisville's up eighty seven percent, murder eight in Minneapolis of sixty four. Then you've got Los Angeles up fifty one percent. You've got all of these. You know, we have the defund effort of the left, which has now become the dismantle and abolish the police departments. How's that going to work out? But people, you have the top people in Congress, the ones that are setting the Green New Deal, Joe Biden, A, Nancy Pelosi, Chucky Schumer agenda. They've gone from defund to now dismantle and abolish. Oh and on top of that, nobel laws for anything, no matter what the crime, You've got all of this now happening. You've got you know what, Portland Police Union building set of blaze. Last week, we had the ice building set of blaze with agents in the building. Last week, riots, vandalism, DC. It was every city, every town, burned the precinct to the ground. Now I assume that at some point this week we're going to get a verdict in this Chauvin trial. I've already expressed my thoughts on nine minutes and twenty nine seconds. I've been very outspoken about it. But at the end of the day, I am glad that there are options that the jury will have here. But even then, people are demanding that they get the maximum, which would be I guess second degree manslaughter in this case or a second degree murder rather excuse me, big distinction. There was over the weekend an activists speaking in Washington, DC at Black Lives Matter Plaza, asking how long before quote people are really ready to get blood on their hands to make change happen. It's called to action. Came during a jail killer cops rally. Voting is not going to bring us this change. Apparently the person's name twenty one year old Raheem b addressing the rally, We've been protesting for a really long time. How much longer can we protest and march in the streets before we're ready, really ready to get blood on their hands, Because one of these days it's gonna have to come to that. Earlier in his speech, he said he was ready to dedicate my life to change. Bringing about the change is not always going to be pretty. It's not always going to be peaceful. I don't condemn who loot, and I support them for looting. I support people who take matters into their own hands. You want you want to set something on fire, go do it. I'm like, this is not going to end well. In New York, where they cut a billion dollars from the New York Police Department, a traffic stop in Brooklyn turned violence Saturday morning. Driver pulled over for running a red light. What did the driver do? It hurls on molotov cocktail at the police officer. Two officers over about eight am after guy runs A red light. Video posted by the NYPD hours later shows the bodycam footage of the stop and the and the moment the accused driver tosses of this liquid onto one of the officers, and then the video ends when the when police said, this guy drives off. A second team of officers in the area spotted the car short distance from the traffic stop, pulled him over again, and police said that he stepped out of his vehicle the second traffic stop and threw a lit molotov cocktail at the cop. Car bounced off, the windshield, shattered in the street, and the guys hops back into his car fled for a second time from police. Moments later, he collided with an unoccupied parked SUV. Officers finally catch up to the guy, removing him from the vehicle, took him into custody. Three other molotov cocktails were covered from inside the driver's vehicle. By the way, we're now gonna have background checks on molotov cocktails. We're gonna have background checks like in the case of the Boston bombing and the Ssarna Brothers. One officer at injuries as a result of this, taken to a nearby hospital. This guy now could face federal weapons of mass destruction charges. I hope he does. But that happened this weekend. You know. I hope the police get but when are we gonna have blood on our hands? Then we got Al Sharpton now, you know, apparently you know is one time crisis director is warning that people will be in the streets no matter which way the Floyd trial verdict goes. Great even if the guy's found guilty, it was still taking to the streets anyway. This guy served as Al Sharpton's crisis director for five years prior to twenty nineteen. Predicting yesterday that they will be angry street demonstrations when the Floyd trial ends, whatever way the verdict goes. Outside of the Barclay Center in Brooklyn, New York, called upon police to give protesters space as they marched through the streets when the verdict happens. With Derek Chauvin, we will not allow the police to stop us from peaceful protesting. I don't have a problem with peaceful protesting. We're gonna be in the streets whatever way in which the verdict goes. Why because we still have a problem with the police in the city. Well, they cut a billion dollars, what's next? Anyway, There's a picture on Twitter apparently Al Sharpton jumping into a private jet so he could fly to stand with the Floyd family. According to his Twitter account, closing arguments are being made. We now have The UK Daily Mail has a report how Minneapolis was transformed now into a fortress. Over the weekend, more than three thousand members of the National Guard have been drafted into the city. Eleven hundred officers from the public safety agencies across the state have also been called up what they're now terming Operations Safety Net. In the early hours of Sunday, two members of the National Guard were injured into drive by shooting. There Throughout the weekend, communities in Minnesota echoed with the sound of hammering as shops and businesses all boarding up their businesses. Some business owners now have hired private security firms the cost of up to three grand a day. It's probably cheap at this point. Then, of course, we have Maxie Waters. Hours after she urges protesters to get confrontational with the police. By the way, we're all the Democrats crying about insurrectionist language anyway, Miranda Divine pointed out in her column today, Waters urged protesters who had attacked the police the previous night that are ready defying the curfew to stay on the street because we're looking for a guilty verdict and if we don't get it, we cannot go away. We've got to get more confrontational. And then, sure enough, within hours of those remarks, two soldiers were injured when someone opened fired on the Minnesota National Guard and Minnesota police and a drive by shooting. National Guard, Minneapolis Police, neighborhood security team fired upon early Sunday morning, and a drive by shooting near Pennsylvania Avenue and Broadway, Minneapolis, and another tweet. The Guard said the shooting took place around four am local time. Like colored suv approached, someone inside fired several shots at a security team providing neighborhood security. When guardsman sustaining an injury from the shattered glass and take it to the hospital. Now Republicans are getting a little angry at this. Maxie Waters is rightly being accused of incitement by Republicans for urging protesters to get more confrontational. He says, Derek Chauvin must be guilty, guilty, guilty, or we take to the streets. Here's Maxie Waters. Not just manslaughter, Oh no, not manslaugh, No, no, no murder. I don't know never in the case degree that as far as I'm concerned, from what happens if we do not go get what you I didn't hear you. What should protesters do? Well, we got to stay on the street. Uh, And we've got to get more I did. We've got to get more confrontational. You've got to make sure that they didn't they know that we need business. You know, for all the years that I would scroll the names on television of all the people shot, all the people shot and killed in Chicago, going back to the Biden Obama years, nobody ever lifted a finger. I didn't even get Linda. I didn't ask for the total. Today, I don't know how many people I wonder got shot in Chicago. I know one person got shot. I know at a McDonald's drive through. A beautiful seven year old girl was killed, shot and killed at a at a McDonald's drive through in Chicago. Then of course, now we want bail reform man charged with attacking. So we had an we have incidences here of targeted Asian American hate crimes in New York City. So you had an undercover Asian American NYPD officer and a guy tried to literally throw this person into the into an oncoming train in the subway. Now facing hate crime charges in that attack, you know, I mean, it's unbelieved that. Thank god the CoP's strong enough to fight back in that particular case. No, it's just unbelievable. All right here, it is twenty six shot, five dead in Chicago. Do you know the names of any of the twenty six people? Does that as you heard the name of the five people shot just the typical weekend under You know they are lightweight prior to that mayor deadfish. You know, Republicans rightly slamming Maxie Waters comments for encouraging riots and violence. This is the same Democratic Party that was all up in arms because Donald Trump said, many of you will peacefully and patriotically let your voices be heard at the well march to the Capitol and let your voices be heard. Now here's the worst part of this case of this, this attack against this police officer, seems to be a rise in these hate crimes anyway. A man charge was trying to shove an Asian undercover police officer under Queen's subway tracks was cut loose without bail Sunday. The judge said, was disgusted in this case because my hands are tied. You know. The guy thirty two years old, Ricardo Hernandez, has twelve prior charges and arrests based with three hate crime charges in an attack trying to kill an officer, which he thought was just a civilian who's basically had occurred at the Long Island City and Train and not that it means anything to anybody anyway. At the arrayment, the Queen's Supreme Court Justice, guy by the name of Lewis Knox, said the state's barer form measures barred him from holding the suspect in jail. The judge said, my hands are tied because of under the new no bail rules, I have absolutely no authority, no power whatsoever to set bail on this defendant for this offense. That's because of you know, great job, Governor Cuomo, by the way, and this is what Democrats want nation why pay attention to this? This is not good. What a sad story. You should see the picture a beautiful young girl seven years old. Police identified the father and his daughter and a McDonald's Do you take your kid through? Every kid loves McDonald's. They usually like that. You know what they called the kid's meal. What is Liam like? Linda happy meal, happy meal, happy happy child meal? Whatever that you get the toy in it and everything. Yeah, we don't really frequent too many fast food restaurants. But yeah, I know because your rigid mom who you know, wants to feed your son Kale. You know he doesn't need cal He just doesn't need McDonald's. He does so he loves McDonald's. Yes, the only thing my son eats French fries. Every kid love does and French fries and he loves. He loves coke or are the orange drink one of the others. I'm not annoying. He does not drink any soda at all. Of course you're awful. You're an awful telling you not to give yourself, not to give your kid McDonalds. Oh yeah, gross, Oh man, I love McDonald's. I can't help myself, all right, Listen and Mark Levin, all right, twenty five till the top of the hour, eight hundred and nine four one, Sean, you want to be a part of the program. Jury instructions coming after closing arguments. Ultimately, in this case, Maxie Waters, Derek Chauvin must be guilty, guilty, guilty, or we take to the streets. And she wants a specific verdict, not one of the three. You know, urging protesters to get confrontational BLM activists protester in DC that you know it's time to now for people are ready to how long before people are ready to get blood on their hands? One years old and I'm ready to dedicate my life to change and to bring about that change. It's not gonna always be pretty, and it's not gonna be peaceful. I don't condemn people who who loot. I support them for looting. I sup put people who who take matters in their own hands. If you want to set someone fire, go do that. Voting is not gonna bring us this, as you can see, y'all. We voted in the new president, Joe Biden. But I told folks straight up, Joe Biden ain't gonna do nothing for us because Joe Biden was in office as the Vice president when the Black Lives Matter movement started. It ain't nothing change. We've been protesting for a really long time. How much longer can we protest in marching the streets before people are really really ready to get blurred on their hands, because one of these days it's gonna have to come to that. Oh look at New York, molotov cocktails throwing a police after a stop. A police stop on a routine traffic stop wasn't routine. At the MPD also nabbed the guy entering the subway. It was an AK forty seven on the Ohio teenager going on. You know, you got to understand all of this now, is this reality Minnesota police sit at Minnesota City Council is moving towards unarmed traffic enforcers after what happened in the Dante Right case where he resisted arrest and the and the police officer in this case at twenty five year veteran pretty stellar record, I'll tase you, I'll taise you, taser, taser, taser, and then oh scheff and shot the guy one time. It was it seems like a strong case to be made there that it was an accidental discharge. This is this is now where we are the party of defunding the police, the party of nobel the now the party of dismantle and abolish the police. You know, how much more, how how much higher is the murder rate's going to have to go before people realize what's going on here. Hundred cops killed already under in the line of duty this year. Chicago has a record murder year last year. They're up thirty three percent from that this year. New York City's up fifty eight percent from a record last year, Louisville up eighty seven percent, Las up fifty one percent, Minneapolis is up sixty four percent. How's this working out for everybody? Then, you've got a gallipole that just came out all these left wing activists with all this incendiary rhetoric demanding a specific outcome. I can only imagine the pressure this jury is feeling till now. They've not been sequestered. Majority of black Americans now, according to a Gallipole from last July, they said they want a police presence in their area to either remain the same or to increase. You know, Rudy Giuliani, forget his politics, murder rate was approaching three thousand murders a year, and they looked at the city, where's most of the crime happening, Wherever the crime was happening, not race base, Where where is it happening. We're the highest incidents of murder and violence taking place, using the majority of NYPD resources, applying it to the areas that most need a greater police presence, instituting stopping frisk, and then that rate has driven, you know, down below three hundred. And then to Bloomberg's credit, I'm not the biggest Bloomberg fan. He followed up on it. Now he regrets it for some reason. I have no idea why. But you know what, this is your modern democratic party with the police. Okay, yeah, we'll get rid of bail, we'll defund, we'll dismantle, will abolish. What's the result of all of this. Then we're gonna try and accumulate hour and perpetuity, will pack the courts, will get rid of the legislative filibuster, will institute HR one, no voter identification, whatsoever? You needed for everything else in life. I can't buy a six pack of beer without it, can't buy a jewel pod for crying out loud without it, and they minimize only buy four packs of jewel pods. Good grief, DC statehood that's up this week. Puerto Rico to follow open borders, amnesty, Biden's cages. The media's silence is deafening. We're ready now for the biggest tax increase in over three decades. Biden using taxpayer dollars to bribe blue states that support him electorally, to support unions that support him, to buy off unions that support him electorally, and the Green New Deal. All the money in the name of emergency COVID relief. It's not draconian shutdowns will keep that going as well. How is it gonna? What are you going? Look? I really am not worried about my life, worry about my kids, not really not worried about my life, worried about people that cannot defend themselves. I can defend myself as best I can, and if at the end I don't win, I don't win. My numbers up, but I'm gonna try to defend myself and I'm pretty good at it. If there are a lot of people that can't defend themselves, what are they gonna do? Look at how the world's change. Donald Trump is gonna be on Hannity tonight nine Eastern for the full hour. Look at what's Look at the change in the territorial ambitions now of China. Look at now the territorial ambitions and the Russians again now threatening Ukraine. Look at the Iranians. What the Iranians are up to is no good. They seem emboldened. Joe Biden now wants to go back to that idiotic Rand deal North Korea. Yeah, I don't think they had the sit I think these countries had a genuine belief that Donald Trump meant it. If he said it, he meant it, and he'd do it, And that Donald Trump was not going to shy away from making a tough call to stop aggression. I think these countries understood that. I don't think they feel the same way about Joe Biden. They studied Joe Biden just like they studied Trump. Trump made them nervous. There was a respect and a fear of Trump that he would do what he says he's gonna do. I'm not sure they see Joe Biden quite the same way. I think they view him as weak and frail. And struggling cognitively. You know, Trump got rid of the of Isis, He got rid of Solomoni Baghdaddy and associates, the al Qaeda leader and Yemen. He did all of that. I think of everything else that he did that, he never got credit for lower drug prices, favored nation status, best economy in the last fifty years, pre COVID record, low unemployment for every demographic in the country. I know so many were so offended by his tweeting. Now we're getting lectured on now it's okay for insurrection as language of Maxie Waters. Nobody says a thing in the democratic side. Everyone was so offended in the mob, in the media big text, so offended by Donald Trump's tweeting, canceled on Twitter, canceled on social media. Just silence him and eliminate him. Don't run stories about zero experience, Hunter's laptop to protect the candidate, Joe Biden hiding in his bunker basement the entire campaign. He's never been a president that was more pro life, pro religious freedom, pro Israel than Donald Trump. We've become energy independent for the first time in seventy five years. He didn't wage a single war in his four years, not one donated his salary. Is Joe donating his He imposed sanctions on Cuba, He imposed sanctions on Maduro, removed economic support for Planned parenthood, unmasked un hypocrisy, pulled us out of this ridiculous Iranian deal, and unmasked the World Health Organization, and got rid of the Paris peace agreements, and then achieved historic peace agreements with Israel and several Middle Eastern countries. And the list continues. But we seem to forget now we've got Joe. By the way, even moderate Democrats are now squirming over this defund the police nonsense. Now there are a lot of states stepping up and saying we're not going to take these changes in our voting laws. We're going to ensure voter ID laws, voter signature verification laws, chain of custody laws, and partisan observers that will be able to observe the same with policing. Rohnda Santa signed a comprehensive anti riot legislation bill. I had him on TV on Friday for that very reason. This is your new modern, extreme, radical Democratic party. Biden has now banned the phrase the illegal alien. You can't use that phrase, even though it's used in the statutory language of almost every law, the term was very calm. Washington Post reported the shift, which also junks the phrase assimilation in favor of integration. I mean the word police are out in full force here. If you enter the country illegally, you're here illegally. You didn't respect our laws or sovereignty. Nor should you get rewarded for lawbreaking, not respecting our laws, sovereignty and borders. It's that, you know, Biden finally called what's happening at the border or crisis. That was a big lift for him. It's a crisis, but he's still letting everybody that crosses the border illegally stay in the country, holding out amnesty something of great worth eight hundred and nine. You know, I'm all for legal immigration, but come in legally, respect our laws, our borders, and our sovereignty. Go through the legal process, and then when you come in, you should have a health check in light of COVID and other things. You should have a security check, and you should be able to prove that you're financially capable of taking care of yourself. Then I don't care where you come from. Welcome to our family. Do it legally. Do it legally. Now he's raising the refugee inflow into the country. Great, well, that's that we have seventeen million Americans needing jobs. Then he's ending all these high paying career jobs in the energy sector. Now everyone's going to be competing. That means wages will be driven lower and lower and lower. By the way, Hunter's book only sold the whopping ten thousand copies. Let me put it this way. That is an unmitigated failure and disaster. I wonder how much you got paid for that book. But that's a disaster. The DOJ targeted Hunter apparently, you know, like last week we learned that, oh the story just before the election about Vladimir Putin targeting in the Middle East American soldiers. Yeah, low probability that ever happened, low probability, unbelievable. Democrats are claiming in their infrastructure build climate action is infrastructure. Ed Markey says, Congresswoman Strickling saying it's affordable housing his infrastructure. You have. Let's see a Lieutenant Governor Mandela Barnes saying police accountability is infrastructure. Congress Person Jones saying that the Supreme Court expansion is infrastructure. They're all lying to you. It's not infrastructure. Were New Deal's infrastructure. It's not infrastructure. You know, paid leave is not infrastructure. Senator Jillibrand neither his childcare, neither his care giving. It's not infrastructure. Pelosi says Dems may need to expand the Supreme Court because of the size of our country. Okay, By the way, if Maxie Waters, if Donald Trump used the rhetoric of Maxine, would they impeach Donald Trump. I think we know the answer to that, because it's all happening. Everything we told you eight hundred nine for one sean. Then we got, of course coronavirus and everything that's happening there. By the way, Bill Maher actually ripped Democrats and the mob and the media's ignorance over the basic COVID nineteen facts. He called it panic porn. Well, now we're not allowed to go to a restaurant and go out even if you've got the vaccine. The santist did the same thing, and I was interviewing him Fouci's Fouci's ended up being so wrong. Now Fouchi's trying to weigh in on guns as a public health issue, like, gee, thanks Anthony Fouci did such such a good job of telling us a year ago, mass don't work. Maybe they'll stop at droplet. But that's about it. They've been wrong on pretty much everything. It's like the forever never ending pandemic. Okay, now everyone either has had COVID and they have antibodies, even at the antibody levels go low used to leve t cell antibodies. Get the vaccine. Everyone gets the vaccine. Now, yeah, you still can't go out. These are incredible times. Then you got fake news CNN apparently Project Veritas confronted Humpty dumpty. Somebody asked Stelter, if the employee in question of fake news and then is still employed, I feel really bad for you. Are you a journalist the correspondent as humpty? Are you able to report anything that's not directly handed down? I report whatever I want. You need to leave. It's very funny, unbelievable. We have a lot at stake. I just want to deputize all of you listening to this program. What happens now matters if you care about twenty twenty two, the four things that every state needs to have and they need to fix it even in the Georgia bill signature verification, voter ID chain of custody, meaning that we watch where the ballots come from and where they every step of the way, and partisan observers should be able to observe the vote count and you should be able to do it that day, that night our two Sean Hannity Show eight hundred and nine for one Sean. You want to be a part of the program. So closing arguments in the case of Officer Chauffin going on now in the George Floyd case, and uh, to me, look, I've given my opinion on what I saw from my vantage point and the nine minute and twenty nine second video that everybody saw, and what happened here and what I believe were mistakes made. And uh, thankfully it's not a matter of the jury only having one option. They have multiple options that they'll be presented and then they'll make the decision, render their decision. I would expect, probably it's not going to happen today, but it should happen this week. And but there are people already stirring up the pot, including and Frank Frankly predictably in her case, Maxie Waters and Chauvin must be found guilty, guilty, guilty, or we take to the streets. Here's what she said, not just no, no, no, agree, But as far as I'm concerned, as from what happens if we do not go get what you just told? Listen to people, I didn't hear you. What should protesters do? Well, we got to stay on the street, and we've got to get more I did. We've got to get more confrontational. We've got to make sure that they did they know that we need business. Where are all of the Democrats that love I haven't heard their favorite word yet. Insurrection, insurrection and insurrection. You know, the history of Maxie Waters is well known. Her incendiary rhetoric. Here's just a small sampling of it. You can't be intimidated, you can't be frightened. As far as I'm concerned, the Tea Party can go straight to hell. I am hoping that we're able to reveal all of this, and my greatest desire is to lead him right into impeachment. Don't see anybody from that cabinet in a restaurant. It is a good miss d at a gasoline station. You get out and you gay a god and you goss back on them, and you tell them then and I will come anymore. I am sitting here listening, watching absorbing, thinking about Ali even though I never met him. And with this kind of inspiration, I will go and take Trump out tonight. Well whatever, he shouldn't be going after anybody. He's the president of the United States of America. He's setting some of us up to be killed. A lot of people will not warn those masks because they're there. Their president didn't wear them and told them that it didn't make any difference or probably dead now, and he's responsible for it. And for those black young men who think somehow they can align themselves with Trump Trump, not only they terribly mistake, mistake good, any of them showing their face. I will never ever forgive that. What should protesters do, Well, we got to stay on the street, and we've got to get more active, We've got to get more confrontational. We've got to make sure that they know that we need business. And Peach Futty five and Peach Funny Fie and Peach Bunty five, and it goes on and on. I could go on for the whole hour anyway, joining us, he just made an announcement, by the way, that he is going to run and challenge the sitting governor, Governor Kemp in Georgia in a primary. Vernon Jones is back with us, sir, welcome back to the program. How are you go find Sean? How are you my friend? I'm good. So there's a lot of rumors about a lot of people. I had been hearing rumors Doug Collins might challenge Kemp, hearing rumors that herschel Walker may make a run for the Senate. What are you hearing? Well, I'll tell you what I'm hearing, and I can tell you what I'm knowing and what I know and here that Vernon Jones has taken on Brian Kemp. Why because Brian Kemp has failed people in state of Georgia. He failed Donald Trump, he failed and caused us to lose to U S senency and by the way, he calls us to lose Major League Baseball. All those Atlanta run a Constitution trying to help him out through his primary because they know he can't beat Stacy and I can. But that's what I know, and I think that's more important than what I'm here, and that's what I know as far as other campaigns, they can take care of themselves. We have to have someone that has proven the test of time. Still with Donald Trump. Donald Trump's his issues, his agenda, his legacy, like I have, and I had it all to lose. I put it all on the field because I believe in Donald Trump and I support him and Brian Kemp cutting ran and not only did he do that, but he allowed himself and Stacey Abrams in the Secretary of State do a back room deal that really manipulated election laws that only the members of the General Assimiate can do. Sew. You know that, and I know that in American people know that. And even when you had a chance to call special session, he failed to do so. And so I'm sorry, go ahead. I think there are four things needed for every state, and I know that other states. I do applaud the improvements. But then you got Joe Biden referring to the new Georgia voting law as Jim Crow two point zero. Now they now the state of Delaware has, let's see, zero days of imperson early voting. Your state of Georgia has seventeen days of imperson early voting. In the state of Georgia, there's a drop box location in every single county and both states require voter ID. I'm not sure why they got rid of the signature verification. I think signature verification, chain of custody, partisan observers being able to observe and picture ID should be the be a part of every law to ensure integrity in elections and competence and election results. Well, Sean, that's the whole thing too, Nobody, most people in Georgia do not have faith in the election process. What happened And let me say this, Yes, the legislature took a step in the right direction, but that was not any legislation put forth by Governor Kemp. That was from the legislative body trying to fix his mask. The fact of it is they did not do anything to get rid of the system. The system that's there now. There's too many questions, unanswered questions. There are too many people who distrust distrust that, and day one when I become governor, you're not going to see a system in place that the American people in Georgians can't believe in. So we're going to deal with that. As far as other things with this governor, you know and I know it. He cow tied to Stacy. He is afraid of Stacy Abrams, and the media knows that Stacy can beat him and I can't. That's what this is coming down to. Forget about the primary, this is the general election. Stacy Abrams is a communist based on with socialism in her, she has Marxism in her. She's caring the left, she's been doing it. I am going to stop that. And you know it's turn You know this. She can't play the race card on me. The Democratic Party can't play the race card on me. I'm gonna call Joe Biden out for as big as he is. Jim Crow too, really, Joe Crow too. And what he's trying to do is repent now because he knows his time is limited. He's trying to repent and trying to make up for the forty seven years that all he did was destroyed black people and black communities in our country with his liberal ways. And so this is a new day. We want people in George with a stamp and fight, fight for election integrity, support the presidents of agenda getting ridy for twenty twenty two and twenty twenty four and Sean. You know and I know it. I bring a different twist. I've always been a lifelong conservative Democrat. I'm pro First Amendment, Second Amendment. I am pro life. That's to be clear about that. No longer can the Democratic Party try to pressure me to vote their way. I'm not going to be cow tied to that. And those who think that I can't be a Democrat change and became a Republican. Then look at two other governments we had here were pretty good damn governors. You had a governor Nathan Neal who's a Democrat became Republican, became governor. You have Sonny Perdue who was a Democrat became Republican and became governor. That both were good governments. I think I'm in good company. Seemed like it takes an ex Democrat with conservative values and not a rhino to stand up for worse writing in the state, some election integrity, to standing up against the liberal mom So you have said the Democratic Party left you. So you've been a lifelong Democrat. Now you're a Republican. A conservative Republican, I would argue, based on by many years of knowing you, and now you're going to challenge a sitting governor and then ultimately, I guess you would hope that you'd win and run against Stacey Abrams. Now, with this latest debaccle is costing the state of Georgia or AE hundred million dollars. So the estimates tell us in terms of business for the people of Georgia. I've got to imagine people are pretty angry at Joe Biden and Stacy Abrams over allowing that false, lying narrative about the new Georgia voting law to go forward. Especially Joe Biden's been in Delaware representing not Stay fifty years and he never liveded a finger to make voting more accessible to the people of Delaware, and this voting law in Georgia is far more accessible to everybody in Georgia. Well, first of all, Sean, we're the leadership from the governor. Why didn't he talk with the business community, talked with cod and said Coca code before you start talking about our Jim Crow law supporting Stacey Abrams. Have you read the bill? And by the way, why are you telling white the employees there that they need to be less white? No, you got it twisted. Then I will also say to Major League baseball. Wait a minute, you want to move, you want to leave here? Why if you want to move to Denver? Denver as a population of nine percent black, and Denver black in Atlanta. So if you're talking about you want to help and support black people, look, I mean to black people, businesses and fame ends and all people white and black. That you heard you? So so KEMP is a day late and one hundred million dollars short, and then I would have walked right on over the Delta Airlines. Wait a minute, mister Delta Airlines, don't you head maasson. Don't you have to have a ID to get on your plane? Don't you? If not, you can't get on the plane. People need IDs to go to the library to check out a book, they need IDs to go to the hospital, the hotels. And it's been mean and it's bigotry. It's the bigotry and in the Democratic Party to say that black people do not have the ability to have an idea and go and vote. It was a lie from the start. It was a sham. But where's the leadership from the governor. The governor should have gone either to New York or had New York to come down here and said, wait a minute, let's have a discussion about this. And by the way, last time I check Major League Baseball and you know this, Sean is based in New York. Now you look at their election laws and compare them to Georgia's. Georgia election laws are follow over more restrictive Georgia. We want to do two things. We want to make it easy for people vote, and we might want to make it hard for others to chief simple plane and point blank and so. But we need a leader, Sean. We need someone won't cut and run the president and look at it. You know, Bryan's been a rhino. Look at what happened this past weekend at a state delegation meetings throughout the county's Republican county conventions. He had about fifteen counties that censored the governor. When have you had a governor since it's about fifteen counties, it's unheard of. I wasn't making valve aster South Georgia this past weekend. I'm running into people's fears. And you know what, they may forgive Brian for what he did, but they're sure not going to forget it. And come next year, Yes, you're gonna see me. I'm gonna be elected governor. You know why because I represent Georgia's values and I represent fighting for Georgia and not only going to change Georgia, We're going to change the entire country. I have the ability, and you know this too, shun my uniqueness. I can grow the party. I can grow to the party with young people. I can grow the party with minorities. President Trump had he had to play in his playbook. He did more to bring more minorities across the line than any Republican presidential candidate has in the past sixty years. He has the right playbook. He understands people, he can feel people, and he's a fighter. And he and I just to like. And that's why I put my country before my party. I didn't leave my party in the party left me. But I am against transgender birol males participating in female sports. Democrats always want to talk about they're protecting women or they support women. No, that's not supporting women. I'm also against like the Democrats are promoting to have children sean children to be injected with hormones and have sex changes. No, why didn't the governor pass two pieces of legislation to stop that, one to stop transgender biro males from being in female sports, to other protecting children from having sex operations. What do they know whether they know, Sean, their children. You have to be eighteen to vote in twenty one to buy a cigarette, and now we're going to do things that can alter child's body as a child. No, And that's why I'm bringing, by the way, school choice. Black people know that their kids are trapped in failing schools because Democratic police. They would rather have their child they have the money to followup child and being a performance school as opposed to a failing school. But Democrats have locked and lied to black people for years. That's why I'm their biggest threat. I'm the Liberals' biggest threat, Sean, because now one cannot shake up Georgia, but we can shake up this country because we're bringing others to this party. We are growing the party. That's why I came to the Grand Old Party, bringing grand new people, grand new ideas, and grand new opportunities. Sean go to Jones for Georgia dot Com. All your listeners, Let's win. Let's win big. Georgia is a national race. There's not a local race anymore. This is a national race. I said in the beginning, John so goes Georgia, so goes this country. Now look what we have, Brian Kemps directly responsible for not only us losing two years senators, but President Trump's election two And what we have now we have Joe Biden, nas Velosi and Church humor. They remind me of the Wizard of Ours. One has no brand, ain't no one has dover, has no heart, no other have no courage and not necessary in their order. And they're being led not by Total and Dorothy, they're being led by the wicked witch of the South, Stacy Abams. We're gonna put a stop on that. Sean Jones for Georgia dot Com. All right, I don't even know what to say, but I can say this. If it was a ticket that had you and hershel Walker on it, I don't see how that ticket loses to be very honest, and it would be transformative. The Republican Party needs to be the party of working men and women, the party of law and order and safety and security in every town, in every city. And they've got to be the party that fixes the unholy alliance between Democrats and teachers unions and allows school choice once and for all, so so our kids. We spend more money per capita on education than any country in the industrialized world with the worst results. Let the Democrats be the party of coastal elites. Republicans need to be the party of working men and women. Vernon Jones, thank you, my friend, come back often. Okay, got a deal at twenty five till the top of the hour, eight hundred and nine four one Sean, you want to be a part of the program. So this is Joe Biden. Just imagine a second that this is Donald Trump. He is with the Prime Minister of Japan, close ally of the United States, and he talks about the winner of the Masters, Hideki Matsayoma as the guy's name, and he just said, well, you know the Japanese boy that wont listen. I know how proud you are of the people of Japan are and uh, you've got a Japanese boy coming over here. And guess what he won the Masters? Do he won the Masters? He won the green jacket, and Matsuyama was the first Japanese player to take home that green jacket at the Masters tournament this week, So let me say congratulations Japan as well on that feat with the woke crowded in America have accepted Donald Trump saying any of these things, I tend to doubt it. I really tend to doubt it. Jim Crow two point zero. Now he keeps saying Delaware zero days of in person voting, seventeen days in Georgia. Both Delaware and Georgia, you both you need voter ID picture ID in both states. No drop boxes in Delaware, but you have drop boxes in Georgia. Nobody seems to care about Joe's history regarding race that we have gone into great specificity in detail. You can't work at a seven eleven or Duncan no nuts unless you have a slight Indian accent. And all these companies and corporations that went along with a big lie. I mean, you think of just the Democratic agenda, what is it packing the courts? By the way, that's coming up now with their commission that they put together on not only defunding the police. Now the strongest leading contingent of Democrats in the House, the squad members saying, oh no, no, we no more police. Barack Obama, We've got to rein we got, We got to create a new vision of what policing actually means. Remove the legislative filibuster. With the reason that they're going so hard at George's because they don't want any voter ID whatsoever. Zero zip DC statehood coming up this week, followed I'm sure by Puerto Rico's statehood. All the open borders amnesty. You know, Oh well, what does that mean? You give something to people of great value in the hopes that they will appreciate it and vote for you in perpetuity. I'm not against immigration, I'm for legal immigration. Biggest tax hike in over three decades. We're gonna call it emergency COVID relief. But it's really just a big blue state all out and a down payment for the New Green Deal draconian shut downs that they still want to continue. You know, no bail, you know, abolish the police, defund the police. I guess more moderate Democrats take the defund position. Um, it's pretty unbelievable here. You know, even though you got your your your vaccination, you still better better keep that mask on anyway and maybe still stay home. What was the point of getting it? It's pretty unbelievable and what's the result. Okay, you have a hundred cops killed. Chicago's murder rate up from last year's record rate of by thirty three percent. This year, New York City murder It's murder rate up fifty eight percent, Louisville up eighty seven percent, Minneapolis up sixty four percent. The Maxine Waters admonition, or there's this verdict, better better come back the way we want. That's what it sounds like to me. Not just manslaughter, oh no, not manslof No, no, no, murder the first degree. That as I'm concerned from what happens if we do not go get you, just as people protesters, I didn't hear you. What happens? What should protesters do? Well, we got to stay on the street, and we've got to get more I did. We've got to get more confrontational. You've got to make sure that they do. They know that we need business. Okay, get more confrontational. What does that mean? You know? Look to me, I've already outlined I won't repeat myself here, my thoughts on the trial that's going on, my thoughts on what happened then the d George Floyd case. We usually tend to be right. There's a problem you have. What juries are. To get a guilty verdict, you need twelve people. If one person disagree, it's over, then you're not. You're not You're not going to get a guilty of Now maybe a hung jury, and you may get another trial. I certainly see under no circumstances an acquittal here. I think the odds of a conviction of one of the three charges, for sure is is likely very, very high. I'd even argue in the high nineties. Um but to tell people that you either get the verdict you want or this is what people need to do. Um, Well, where's the investigation? Where's the talk of insurrection? All right? Eight hundred and ninety four one, Sean, if you want to be a part of the program, Bill is in Georgia. Bill, Hi, how are you? And uh, well, great job Joe Biden and Stacy Abrams have done for your state. I'll tell you that. Don't even get me started on that one. Good talking to Sean. I mean, let's get to you some bad Atlanta in the mid nineties. Yes, sir, well, it's good. It's great to have you back here. Nineteen ninety six was a great year. The Atlanta Journal Constitution hadn't they're great at their year. End of addition, the Olympics came and Sean Hannity left that was not very nice, wasn't. No, It wasn't the reason I told today I was calling about this thing that to Lead calling for no more policing are incarceration. For me, that is really akin to inciting violence or even anarchy if you want to take it that far, because if you don't have police or you don't have incarceration to punish people, you're just gonna have mayhem in the streets. They simply put, and there's not everybody is armed and ready to go and people just be. It would be a mess. And it's it really is inciting violence. That's the thing that it got to be is that you know, everybody's talking about Trump inciting violence when he really didn't in the end and improved it when wasn't done. And you have shut your mouth waters going along this last weekend and this comment from to Lead, it just really runs me. Nobody's standing up to these people. Yeah, look, I mean there are people that are standing up to it, Republicans are, but the media is on their side and with the media on the side of the Democratic Socialist and the radicals. It's it's a great defense for all things madness and crazy. I mean, they will defend the indefensible. Doesn't matter what Joe Biden says or does, doesn't matter how weak and fairly is. It doesn't matter that his policies are failing, doesn't matter that his administration is lying to us continually. They give him a pass. I mean, I don't know about you. I've had many occasions where I get blown over by the wind, haven't you. Well, certainly we need a louder bullhorn. I know that we need louder bullhorn that they've got. We gotta find a way to do it. I'll tell you what the loudest bullhorn is going to be. It's gonna be in November of twenty twenty two, and it's going to be in November of twenty twenty four. That's the bullhorn. Now, in the interim, we need states like Georgie. By the way, Georgia's law could be a little stronger too. Why they got rid of signature verification standards completely, I don't know the original bill had it in there. Certainly wide at a boy politics to go on in Georgia. So they probably won't ever find the answer to that one. Well, they can still fix it. There's still time, and I see Arizona's making moves to make sure we have voter integrity and confidence and results out there. Similarly in Pennsylvania, efforts have started, and efforts have started in both Michigan and Wisconsin. And it needs to happen. And if we don't do it, we you know, don't come crying to me the morning after the night before in November of twenty twenty two and say, well, how do we allow this to happen? Because the first, the first order of business is ensuring the integrity of elections. Moving forward, hopefully we'll get the job done. Talking to you, I'm talking to you, my friend. Thank you. And that's why HR one SR one has to stop. Right as we continue back to our busy phones, don't forget Donald Trump for the hour tonight on Hannity nine Easton on the Fox News Channel. Let's say hi to Andrews in South Carolina. What's up, Andrew? How are you? I'm doing pretty good, Sean, how are you doing? I'm good, sir. What's happening? Well? Uh, Friday. You uh, you had a little segment on um, you know, reforming the police or whatnot in America, And I mean, I am totally for reforming better you know. I guess you say better training for our police officers. I'm not about defunding the police. That's that's a bad idea in my opinion. Um listen, I think it's simple. I think it's more training and non lethal options. Those are my two big That's that's exactly right, and that's why I called um so so listen man. I've heard a lot of people talking about like maybe you change in where the taser is placed and that kind of stuff. And I did a little bit of research probably nine months back whenever some of the stuff started happening, and I think it would be a fantastic idea to just put two rubber bullets in every clip that a cop carries. The first two bullets are rubber bullets. That gives you enough time. If you're properly trained, you have less than a second before you're lethal. But if you have an accidental discharge, like in cases like Potter, you're you're very slim going to kill someone with a rubber bullets. The problem is with that scenario, and and I love the fact that you're thinking through it. Imagine a scenario where somebody high on fenton Al painkillers met that and fhetamine, whatever they're on, is charging at you. Now, the odds are they're not gonna feel pain like most people at that moment, but they're charging at you, and they're gonna be in They're gonna You're gonna be in a physical confrontation in less than a second. You don't have time and under those circumstances now, but that would also probably be a moment where, again, if your life is being threatened, that would justify lethal force. It's hard to predict every scenario. I mean, that's why every case is unique and special and different needs to be judged accordingly. I mean, in the case of this thirteen year old kid, Adam to Ledo, I mean the original the knee, your quick reaction of people, he had his hands up and he got shot anyway, and then you look at the video in real time, and then you slow the video down frame by frame, which we did, and then you see, you know, him turned slightly to the officer with a gun in his hand and then turns drops the weapon. Throws the weapon and then puts his hands up. That officer at less than a second to decide what to do. That off that, there's a reason why that officer has not been charged in that case. You know that, Oh, of course, of course. I mean again, I'm much like you. I don't form an opinion off of a situation until all the facts have been presented, um and and and again. You know, I mean it, it's it's a very unfortunate thing that the young man died. It's a very unfortunate thing that she shots. Horrible. That's a that's a human life, that's a you know, that's a my entire life. I've I've dealt with guns my entire life, and I feel like you know, when it comes down to it, defunding the police is not the answer. And you know, something like this, rubber bullets costs half as much as what a regular round costs in I mean, you know, like you said, seconds matter whenever it comes to to I guess you'd say, uh, fatal situations or whatnot. Um, But I feel as a shooter, two bullets is three tenths of a second if you're in a panic situation. It's on paper would probably work ninety five percent of the time. It's it's not a horrible suggestion, it's something that could be considered, but um, it's it's just well, first of all, you have to have the non lethal projectile whatever it happens to be that would work in a particular weapon. I'm not sure if that specific technology exists yet. I know people that are working on it because a lot of people have gotten in touch with me that are are in the business of building non lethal alternatives for people. But it's it's a smart idea. I listen, I'm I'm open to anything that's going to ultimately save lives and still let cops to their jobs. But you know, they're moving ahead in Minnesota with what I told you they're trying to do last week, and that is a traffic stops. They want to totally disarm police. Now we saw what happened. You know, three officers were shot last week at a routine traffic stop. Then we had the new Mexico tape released last week. Officer routine traffic stop shot and killed and that tape was released last week. So nothing's easy. Thanks Andrew, appreciate it. Eight hundred nine four one sewn. You want to be a part of the program, quick break right back, stay right here for our final news round up and information overload. All right, News round Up, Information Overload hour. Never thought in my lifetime i'd see such radicalism, such double standards. We see it every day. You know, it's perfectly fine insurrectionist language of Maxie Waters from this weekend. I mean, it's it's actually downright scary what they're saying. We got activists now saying and urging the crowd to get blood on their hands if they don't get the verdict that they want. Al Sharpton heading on out to Minnesota. Then of course Maxim Waters, which we are highlighting a little bit in the last program, pretty much inciting, well, you know, some type of activity we'll take to the streets. What does that mean, we'll take to the streets. Pretty unbelievable. This is your new radical extreme democratic socialist party defunding the police. I guess that's not enough now now it's abolished the police. Now they're pushing Nobel nationally. You know, how do Americans pursue happiness if they don't have law and order in safety and security? How is that even possible? You know, then on top of that, let's get rid of the legislative philipbuster. Let's pack the courts while we're at it, an idea that Joe Biden as I told you last week. So that's a bone headed idea. But now more and more Democrats are saying it. Listen. So we are here a coalition beginning this effort to ensure that we restore justice to the Supreme Court. It was a bone had idea. The United States Supreme Court is broken, it is out of balance, and it needs to be fixed. It was a bone had idea. Some people will say we're packing the court. We're not packing it. We're unpacking it. Sending the McConnell and the Republicans packed the court over the last couple of years. It was a bone had idea. It's time to go back to this tradition and have at least thirteen justices. It was a bone had idea. When those seats are failed, we will finally have a court committed to government by the people. It was a bone had idea. It was a terrible, terrible mistake to make, and it put in question for an entire decade the independence of the most significant body, including the Congress. In my view, the most significant body in this country the Supreme Court of the United States of America. A bone had idea, I guess not anyway. Joining us is carry Severino's back with us, chief Council policy director at the Judicial Crisis Network. Also, Ken Starr is back with Let's us his new book out, Religious Liberty in Crisis. And by the way, the Judicial Crisis Network launched a new campaign opposing the Democrats court packing legislation. Let's play that at Roosevelt, corrupted by power, in my view, unveiled his court packing plan. It was a bone had idea. It was a terrible, terrible mistake. I have not been a fan of court tracking, but after one hundred and forty five million in liberal dark money, Joe changed his Two depends on how this turns out. Now he's exploring court packing. But Joe, what are we talking about? It was a bone had idea. It was a terrible terrible mistake, all right, Joining us now, Carrie Savarino, Ken stars with us. Yeah, it is a bonehead idea, but one that I think the fix is kind of in carry. If we're going to be honest here, I think Joe Biden's already made up his mind, and I think he's going to try and use this commission to justify a move from nine Supreme Court justices to thirteen thoughts. Oh yeah, I think you're absolutely right. And you know, when the House members, the Democratic House members, announced this bill, I think that with them kind of forgetting the order of operations that they had had kind of stacked up, they were going to have this commission then say, oh, the commission says we should pack the court, we'll just do what the academics say. But they forgotten. Then they introduced their bill before the commission even had a chance to get going. So it's clear they're not waiting for what these people are saying. They know what they want to do, and for them it's a win win. Either they get this thing, path they pack the court. They have four more justices, and then they're trying to push Briar out as fast as they can, maybe five justices providing on the court who are going to be guaranteed votes for every liberal policy goal ever, or they don't get it done, but they succeed in intimidating the justices into try to towing that line in hopes that they won't push the Democrats into into full fledged court packing. I think that's the other agenda they have going either way. At four, you know, Ken Starr, when you look at all of this in total, and that would be court packing, removing the legislative filibuster HR one, SR one, no voter id anyplace anywhere, widespread mail in voting with no verification whatsoever. This week they've taken up DC statehood Puerto Rico soon to follow open borders, with the prominence of Amnesty, Blue state ballouts, Union baillouts, Green New Deal ballouts, it seems to me that this is the biggest power grab by government we'd have ever seen in history. And you can add to it what I believe is unconstitutional Joe Biden ruling through executive action bypassing a coequal branch of government, that being the legislative branch. It is an exercise in raw power, and so many of the initiatives of the new administration, and now obviously the Congress moving out on court packing HR one, reshaping entirely in a very radical way, the voting laws of the United States, intruding, i think, unconstitutionally into the paraguatives of the States. But let me just say a word on court packing. I'm so glad you played the clip bone had idea. Nothing has in fact changed. One of the things that our listeners should know is that the Supreme Court operates very efficiently. There's no suggestion that there's been a breakdown. There's no suggestion that there's this huge backlog that the judicial business of the United States is not being conducted. It is simply a disagreement with the substantive results of the substance of results, by the way, are often including in the area I just wrote my book on religious liberty. These cases are often decided, not always, but often decided by a supermajority, at times unanimously. So at times what the complaint is about is really our foundational freedoms, our fundamental freedoms enshrined in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, and trying to overturn Supreme Court jurisprudence where there's been an enormous amount of agreement. So it's a very bad idea. And what is really ironic, Sean and Carry, as you know, is there is no mandate in this last election. Look at the United States Senate divided fifty fifty. That strikes me as an even split. It takes Kamala Harris to come back from the border if she's there, to cast a tie breaking vote. This is so far removed from FDR's true mandate and answer to the election nineteen thirty six, and even their president Roosevelt was told no, it's a bone head idea. Okay, So now the question is how how does this get stopped? Carrie? Well, I think we have one route of stopping it, which is thankfully so far Joe Mansion, Christian Cinema, the moderate Democrats, some of the rare breeds that's becoming rarer here. They have said they don't want to do this. Now, God willing, they can stick up, to stand up to the pressure, because, believe me, they're getting a huge amount of pressure from these dark money groups. You spent millions and millions of dollars to get President bid elected. Who are you going to spend millions of dollars to try to influence their vote. So they are saying, at least right now, that they don't want it, they don't want to vote for this. But again, I think that the other big problem here is even if they don't manage to flip those with this huge dark money pressure campaign against those senators. I think the other big problem is they're intimidating the justices. That you've had people saying basically, if you don't want us to pack the court, maybe you should rule in our direction. We've had out and out suggestions that way from people like Senator Whitehouse a couple of years ago in an immigates grief. So this is the other angle, and I think the only solution is for it to be so clear that the American people are this is anathematis much like it was as Ken was talking about for FDR. If it's very clear the people don't want this and it's a political loser, that's the only reason they would stop short of the brink because the only thing they are more worried about than not being able to utterly take over with all of their agenda is to maybe lose an election. So that's what we have to make make clear. Right as we continue with Kerry Severino and Ken's Starr will get to your calls here in a second. Ken's Starr, I would argue that the Roberts Court up to date to this moment, probably we'll go down in history as a court that allowed politics to sway its decision may king starting with the Obamacare, the ACA Act, and when that I've been told now by numerous sources that John Roberts was going to vote to eliminate the law and at the last minute decided against it for political considerations. If this were to happen, wouldn't this undermine that this notion, this belief that the judiciary, a coequal branch of government often called on to resolve differences between the other two coequal branches of government. Wouldn't that then render them a political operation or extension of the Democratic Socialist Party and their agenda things that they would never get accomplished at the ballot box or legislatively, they'll they'll use the courts to do for them. Well, it would certainly erode the reputation for independence of the judiciary, especially the Supreme Court. I mean, that's why the justices have life tenure. That's why John Stevens was able to serve until he was ninety years of age, people on into their eighties. We want, and we've historically said, the independence of the Streme Court is very important, and why so they will be free from these political pressures. So yes, we should all rise up and say, please, Justices, you have something that is invaluable in the American power structure. It is called life tenure. You don't have to face elections reelections. Please use your best judgment, do not vote because of the way political winds are blowing. That's the ideal, and hopefully we will see a restoration of that ideal. But it's a serious problem that there's a perception there, certainly is that some votes are actually influenced strictly by politics and keeping the court out of trouble. But even liberal justices like Stephen Bryer and the ever so love Ruth Pader Ginsburg were against packing the court, would there potentially be a path towards a court challenge that could even ultimately land in the Supreme Court where they themselves would make way in on this this important matter. I don't think so, because oh I'm sorry, go ahead carry Oh no, gay, Yeah, I think you're I think you're going down the same. They have the constitutional authority to do this, right. Yes, absolutely that the size of the court has changed. Originally it was five, so but it's been this way for well over one hundred years and you're so right, and again to hipologize carry Stephen Bryant spoke out against it, and of course not too Charley, long before she passed from this light, Ruth Ginsburg spoke out against it. It just shows thoughtful people should be rising up and saying no, quit trying to ruin the independence of the Surren Court. So it essentially becomes like a third world country that it's simply rubber stamps, like the Venezuelan Supreme Court is simply going to rubber stamp whatever the leaders shop of Javez once, No, that's not our country. Don't try to ruin those country's basic institutions. And you know who I would summon to the Stanza to speaker is the great Frederick Douglas, who had lived in slavery, and yet he said, the American institutions have genius. There's genius behind these institutions, and Supreme Court independence is one of them. Yeah, I don't think there's any doubt about it, all right, Kerrie Severino, thank you, Ken Start, thank you for the update. We really appreciate it. Will continue to follow this very very closely. To me, it's a huge danger all of these efforts to accumulate power and perpetuity. I've never seen a power grab like this in my lifetime, now doing this thirty three years. Thank you both for being with us. Thank you, Sean alex Is in New York. Alex hig you're on the Sean Hannity Show. John, thanks for taking my call. I love your show. I'm calling because this polishtician of a Senator, Chuck Schumer says that President Trump stole two seats on the Supreme Court and now it's up to the Democrats to repair the damage. Sean, I don't get it. If there's no problem with packing the court in order to repair the damage, why did the Democrats not tell us during the campaign that they would do this when they were asked numerous times as to whether they would pack the court or not ato Sean, every child knows that you don't change the rules of the game during the game when it benefits for you and not the other player, because otherwise you're looked at as a cheap, sore loser. And that's what the Democrats are doing. They're changing the rules, they're packing the court because it benefits of them, since then they're the minority and they have the House to send it in the White House. They want to be able to pass through whatever it is they want for the next two years without anybody being able to stop them. We got a bad line. Let me just play for you, Alex in our audience here, Joe Biden asked her in the campaign in twenty twenty on this very issue. In others, listen, Speaking of those other candidates, several of them have proposed major structural reforms to our government and to our democracy. These include abolishing the electoral college, expanding the size of the Supreme Courts, setting term limits for justices, abolishing the legislative filibuster. Which, if any of these do you support? None, because that structural change requires constitutional amendments. It grazes problems that are more damaging than the problem that exist. Oh, I guess Joe's changed now. The squad is in charge. All right, your calls coming up. Don't forget my interview with President Donald J. Trump tonight nine Eastern Hannity on Fox News. And of course we're watching closing arguments today in the Chauvin trial on the George Floyd case. We expect the verdict this week. At some point we'll take a break we'll come back. We'll continue all right, twenty five till the top of the hour, eight hundred ninety four one, Shawn our number. You want to be a part of the program today, Let's say hi to David Is in Maryland. David High, you're on the Sean Hannity Show. Glad you called, sir hey Son. Thanks for taking my call. Yeah, I work in law enforcement. I'm just calling him. Reference the whole defund the police movement, whatever you want to call it. Well, now it's not just it's not just the fund now, it's the fund and abolish, abolish, correct, Right, Yeah, So I'm calling so, uh, you know, some of my buddies that I work with in law enforcement, we've kind of come up with something we thought obviously it would be doomed for failure. But if we want to appease these people, why don't we just have these towns and counties and cities vote on whether they want police or not, because you know, obviously that's doomed for failure. If they vote against police and we pull the police out of those areas, you're obviously going to see crime skyrocket, which is already skyrocketing, and a lot of cities across the US, obviously, especially like cities like Chicago, because you know, you find that some of these a lot of crimes, you know, maybe they don't do it as you know, a really bad crime, and they're not you know, enforcing the laws like they normally would because of just all of this defund movement. And now, like you said, abolish so I don't know, I you know, obviously that would probably sail if they vote, you know, police out of certain areas, and we would show that it would fail. But why don't we have areas that well, it's already failing. Your instincts are right, we have numbers to back them up. Chicago had a record murder rate last year, and it's the murder rate so far this year is even thirty three percent higher than then. New York City the murder rates up fifty eight percent, Louisville's up eighty seven percent, Minneapolis is up sixty four percent. La is up fifty one percent. So it's already happening. We see the negative impact, and I argue that it's impossible for Americans, you know, that are endowed by their creator to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness If you don't live in a city or town with law and order that's safe and secure, there's no way you can pursue happiness. You can't. Oh absolutely, absolutely, a one hundred percent correct. And I just I don't understand what is going through some of these people's heads to say, oh, we don't need to lease, or it's you know, it's too militaristic, or you know, I'm sorry, you know that that's just that's not not the case. We need law and we need law and order. We need law enforcement. You know you can't survive without it. Uh, yep, you speak the truth. Well what do you do? Are you a police officer or yeah, actually, well I work in law enforcement. I work in the actually more in an investigative role now. I used to be in patrol, but I'm actually in State of Virginia's where I work. I'm just visiting family in Maryland. So appreciate the call. Thanks for all you do, David. We We're glad you're out there. Donna's in Chicago. Don you're on the Sean Hannity Show, Happy Monday. Thanks for being will us. Hey, we wanted to speak about the return about macing Wassington, DC, estate, and I was looking at up I believe it was seventeen ninety. Reasonly what happens. Maryland gave up some land to make washingt in DC its own little city, and Congress wanted to make it an independent area of controlled by Congress who wasn't loyal to anyone's state. If people want to move to the school, still again, I think the best ways is re rut the back to Maryland or Virginia. That the theories that gave it up. This way, it's the most efficient way people there can do. Presenators and congressmen they have all the representation, because that's the argument that's been used. The other argument against that, though, I heard someone saying that rading will show the other day, was that well you do would uh you know, the congressman would not do the you know, the minister amount of representation because there have too many people now like he can't control the amount of people in each state and they part of the desert, real water. We take care of that based upon the House representatives and congressman. That's how you have a high, bigger population, you get more congressman, more congressional seats. So that's what I think the best way to do is just do the lame back to Virginia and Maryland and we're done. Want to call it a day, but it's obvious the reason they want to do is because they want to get two more senators. It's transparent. They think they get two Democratic senators and perpetuity out of the deal. But that goes to the heart of all of the power grab that that that that's why they want to pack the courts. Things they can't get done legislatively, they hope judicial activists will do it for them, you know, get rid of the legislative filibuster. Then we can ram everything through and it will be one party rule in America. The same with Puerto Rico statehood. The reason they want hr SR one, and the real reason is they don't want any voter ID whatsoever. They want no signature verification, they want massive mail in voting. How can you ever, You'll never have integrity or confidence in election results again, because they want the ability to run it their way, and we know what their way is. It's pretty transparent. You know. They want to offer illegal immigrants and I'm for legal immigration. I don't care where you come from. I'm for legal immigration, and but I do believe you need to have a background check. I think you need a health check in the day and age of COVID. I think you need to respect our laws, our sovereignty, our borders. I think you need to be able to show that you'll be financially able to take care of yourself while you're here. And once you go through the process and we welcome you into our country, we'll welcome to our family. We're glad you here. If you want to work towards citizenship, we should have. You know, I believe in merit based citizenship myself, kind of like what Australia, New Zealand and other countries like that have, but they don't want any of that. You offer somebody something for free, of great value, and and you know, with the hope is is that, oh you'll you'll give us credit in perpetuity for that. It's all a power grab. Republicans have often wanted illegal immigration because they want cheap labor, and Republicans would appease corporations that want a cheap labor, and Democrats thought that there'd be a natural constituency for you know, people if they offer amnesty, okay, something of great value. It's not. It's I just want if we opened our borders, the entire world would come. We just can't afford it. Every person that Joe is letting into this country illegally and facilitating law breaking right now, well they're not doing background checks, they're not doing health checks. And now we're in the position as taxpayers at a time when we can't afford it to have to provide housing and an education and healthcare and all the costs associated with people that just don't have the money to live right now. And there's not a lot of jobs available. So you know, we could see what the Democrats are doing. I just I just happen to believe. If you don't like the laws as they're currently configured, well there's a process. Write a law, pass a law, have a president signed the law, change the law, build consensus among the people in your district and in the country to go along with what law you prefer. But they'd rather not do it that way, and you could. I mean, you're you're all over there. I love your show. You know, um it's obvious and everything you're saying I'm agreeing with and with it. The state thing, you know, like I say reverted back. I think when a lot of people have to do those do. Something you brought up the other night is you have to call in and make your voice heard other stations. I mean when I call into you, you know we're preaching to the choir I called the liberal radio shop. You'll be surprised, Tom Any liberals are paid to listen to me in the hopes that they can get me canceled. But go ahead, Oh no. I called in and I said, there's no way. I'm from the South side of Chicago. First time I voted the preesting Captain Keyman and voted for me when I was a team pulled a lever and everything in the old days, voted the street Democratic ticket. I called it. I said, there's no way Joe Biden's going to make four years. I truly believe it was some backdoor deally cut and a couple of years he'll back down and give Kamala Harris the non He'll say it was health reasons or whatever. That bet five hundred dollars or worth Rick Hungo. I Wonderfu'll even remember that when it happens. But on the year it was a five hundred dollars bet. But I called in the other night and I made my argument about, you know, just give the state back to Virginia or Maryland. And I got the guy who was working in his place to kind of agree with me and his whole thing as well. You might delute the power of the senator, and I said, no, Walter, you can't. You can't. And how many people to live in the state. People are going to come and go all the time. It's a dynamic, you know. So I think if we're calling get our voice heard and not preaching to the party, but calling to the liberal shows and spread this word other places, get involved in your local they don't want conservative voices heard. You got to understand conservatives now are canceled on Twitter, on Facebook, on Instagram, on YouTube. This whole deep platforming cancel culture is real. Now. What does need to happen is, and I used to use this phrase many years ago, we've got to become the media. And that's when it was just the big three networks. Now you've got you know, look look at what Project Veritas did last week and exposing fake news CNN as a radical socialist, agenda driven propaganda channel. That's what they are. It's the same with ms DNC, it's the same with the three networks, it's the same with major newspapers, it's the same with big tech. And and as as big as you have made this show, meaning you and this audience. I mean, when we're talking about hundreds of millions of people that they reach, now, their power is enormous. That power must now be matched, and there's got to be an ability and new platforms that transcend where conservatives now where we're not wanted, will have options to go to to turn to. And it's not as simple as you think either, especially look at Big Tech for example. You know, we're all for freedom of speech. I wouldn't want to be a part of, though, a forum that allows, you know, overt, clear, obvious, transparent racism and bigot and bigotry of any kind or anti semitism. I wouldn't want to be a part of that platform. Okay, so now you put some very base, moderate standards, and you have moderators that can take certain things down. But it's a very very slippery slope where do you draw the line, And it's just it becomes challenging for people that want to do it and do it right. The technology also is complicated, especially if you can't download the application, the app needed to build out a new forum. I mean, the deck is definitely stacked against us. We saw that though major institutions, institutional forces against conservatives are alive and well, the Democratic Party, the mob, and the media, big tech, those are three of them. Anyway, good call, appreciate it. Eight hundred nine for one, Shawn, our number Missouri. Jim is next, Hi, Jim, how are you? Glad you called? Sir? Hello, Hey Jim, what's going on? Hey, Sean, how are you? I'm good, sir, glad you called. Well, I'll tell you what. I really appreciate that you're taking a call and you and Mark lavand all of you guys are standing up, and I know what you have against you, because law enforcement has the same thing to a large degree against them too. And we are in a very sad state of affairs with our law enforcement and really with our country in terms of what the left and the fascists are doing to pit one another against each other and particularly against law enforcement. You know, Sean, law enforcement on a day to day basis has thousands upon thousands of positive contacts with the citizens in this country. But you don't see that on mainstream media. They love the cherry pick what they perceive may be or may not be a negative incident, and they pounce on it, particularly when involves a person of color. And you know, one of the sad things is is that nobody will talk about the elephant in the room. And you know what that elephant is, Sean, You tell me the elephant in the room is the fact that people, particularly some of these young people, they just don't obey the law. The fact that what is a young person with a gun doing out at one or two o'clock in the morning. Where are their parents? Where's the file? That to me is one of the saddest things that happened in the Toledo case. This young man is thirteen years old. I viewed children. I really do believe every man, woman, and child is a creature of God. The difference with the human experiences. We have a propensity for good and a propensity of evil. But especially young people, they need to be protected by their parents. I don't know about you. When I was raising my kids when they were younger, I was a complete I plead guilty. I was a helicopter parent. I knew where they were every second, every minute, every hour of every day. And when they got cell phones, I jacked their phones and I knew exactly where they were and if they moved, I knew exactly where they were going. And maybe that sounds by the way. They weren't their phones, they were my phones. I gave them phones. I owned the phone, so it was my phone that they were using. Just for those people that would say you're spying on your children, no, it's you can keep track of where they are. Great technology, actually, And you know, it's sad when I hear that a kid is thirteen years old hanging out with a twenty one year old that's already been found guilty of a gun offense charge with a gun offense rather and as gun residue on his fingers, It breaks my heart. I mean, all the talent that this kid was born with will never know what talent that kid had, what potential that child had, and he's gone. And it happens every day. And I've been scrolling the names of kids like Adam Toledo for years on my program saying why don't we know their names? Because what we can't it doesn't become politically charged it's sad, and it's you know, we can we can make it that every city is safe and secure. Learn the lessons of Rudy Giuliani. You may not agree with him politically, Learn what he did to save lives in New York because it worked. 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