Alabama Senate candidate Roy Moore is under fire for alleged sexual misconduct with a minor. The Washington Post broke this story, one that Moore and his campaign vehemently deny and call "fake news." "I'm asking the question, because we all hate anybody who would abuse a woman," began Hannity, "How do we ever get to the truth?" Sean spends the show digging into this story and other allegations flying around... The Sean Hannity Show is live weekdays from 3 pm to 6 pm ET on iHeartRadio and Hannity.com.
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Just go to my pillow dot com or call eight hundred zero nine zero promo Code Hannity to take advantage of Mike special two for one offer my pillow dot Com promo Code Hannity. That was a collective freak out on the anniversary of Donald Trump winning and becoming the forty fifth president of the United States. I'm literally about I'm not kidding. I literally yes, a collective liberal freaking They need therapy dogs, they need cocoa, they need play dough, they need coloring books, they need crayons, they need padded rooms. Apparently because the freak out has continued for an entire year. Anyway, glad you're with a Shawan Hannity Show eight nine for one. Shawn told free telephone number you want to be a part of the program. We have an investigative report today, uh Sarah Carter Victoria Tunsing. We're not letting go. We're only getting started on the dossier. We have a lot of new information we're gonna pass on and of course Uranium one as now the client, the inform and for the FBI soon now going before Congress. We'll get to all of that today. Steve Scalise, the Republican Party, uh whip is gonna join us today. It looks like the senator is about to bail out on on corporate tax cuts, which means that is the death of the Republican Party. I'll get to all of that, all right. So I got a heads up this morning that something was coming, and sure enough it showed up on Breitbart first and then the Washington Post. Second, I'm looking at the Drudge Report. Now Alabama rocked Judge Moore hit with sex accusations. That is the headline. And first the Bright Bart came out with after endorsing Democrat in Alabama. Now, this guy Bassos is the guy that owns the Washington Post. He also owns Amazon dot Com. Anybody who's used Amazon, so he's a really wealthy guy. Bought the Washington Post. Um, the Washington Post hates anything Republican, anything conservative. They hate anything. I mean, they did what a nine week investigation, investigative report on me, and it made the front page. I never saw the actual thing, but I was told it made the front page. It was a top, fold, bottom or whatever of the Washington Post. One day. They went back to when I was twenty years old, thirty years ago, into my in my twenties and into my first radio show. I'm like okay, trying to take Sean Hannity down. Why else with the Washington Post spend that much time, effort, and money on a dope talk show host. Sorry, it's just a fact. Because they don't like my opinions, they wanted to dig up dirt. And by the way, that's not the first attempt. I think Bloomberg spent six or seven weeks doing the same thing. You know, we've had phony headlines by fake CNN about me. I mean, it's it's just these unbelievable times. Now, I predicted, if you remember during the r V, Weinstein ish and now Weinstein is now getting sex therapy. Weinstein also may be indicted in New York for rape because of a sting operation that had happened way back in the day. He didn't deny the charges. Same with Kevin Spacey's. I think they're at the same sex rehab facility, okay, which is unbelievable to me. I've always thought sex rehab and I know the supposedly I guess they separate the men and the women, but they're often in the same facility. Why do I think that's a bad idea? You know, it's just I just think it's a bad idea anyway. So here we are a long drawn out career. Judge Moore has been in the public eye for forty years. Judge Moore has been in a heated primary down in Alabama going on for forever. Are we first endorsed? By the way, you may remember Moe Brooks have no mo Brooks forever and Moe Brooks used to fill in on my radio show when I lived in Huntsville, Alabama. Anyway, So the alleged incidents here rudge, Judge Moore denies them happened nearly forty years thirty eight years ago. He's seventy years old. These allegations are from when he was thirty two years old, and the allegations, all of which he denies strongly denies, alleged an incident that took place between nineteen seventies seven and nineteen eighty two. Now, these allegations, he says, are completely false and desperate political attack by the National Democratic Party. In the Washington Post, More said in a statement, and separately, More said, uh in another statement, this garbage is the very definition of fake news and intentionally its intentional defamation campaign pointed out the More has been married for nearly thirty three years and has four children five grandchildren. And it was noted that More has served in public office in the past. No such allegations had been made. He's been in public service now nearly forty years. And when he said, if any of these allegations were true, they surely would have been made public long before. This has been one of the hotly contested races of the year. Now here's how the allegations go. According to the Post, that they claim when he was thirty two years old, More was that he attempted to court three women and dated them. One claims he engaged in sexual conduct while she was below the age of consent fourteen years of age. In case you're interested, the current age of consent in Alabama is sixteen UM. Now, Breitbart didn't give the names of the women, but the Washington Post interestingly did, And the claim is that in early nineteen seventy nine, he was a thirty two year old assistant d A struck up a conversation with this this I won't give her last name is Corfman when she was fourteen and Uh, anyway, you offered to watch the girl while her mother went inside for a custody. Hearing said, Oh, you don't have to go in there with the I'll stay here with her. According to the mother, her mother's is seventy one years old. I thought, well, how nice of him wanting to take care of my little girl. Anyway, more chatted with the girl, The Washington Post rites, and asked for her phone number. Anyway, Then, they report days later, she says he picked her up around the corner from the house in Gadsden, Alabama, drove about thirty minutes to his home in the woods, told her how pretty she was, and he kissed her, and there was a second visit. She says that he took off her shirt and removed his clothes. He touched her over her brawn or underpants, and she says, guided her hand to touch him over his underwear. She said, quote, I wanted it over with. I wanted out, She remembers, thinking, please get this over with. Whatever this is, just get it over she said. And then she says she asked more to take her home, and he did. That's the extent of what they explained happened in this particular case. Now to of this young This woman's childhood friends say she told them at the time she was seeing an older man. One of the two friends identified the man as More. Well, says her daughter. This is the mother told her about the encounter more than a decade later, as More was becoming more prominent as a local judge in Alabama and aside from Corfman, the Washington Post goes on, three other women interviewed by The Washington Post in recent weeks say More pursued them when they were between the ages of sixteen and eighteen and he was in his early thirties. Episodes they said they found flattering at the time, but troubling as they got older. None of the women say that More forced them. Let me read this. None of the women say More forced them into any sort of relationship or sexual conduct, he says. One woman says she was fourteen working as a santor's helper and Gadston Mall when More first approached her, and sixteen when he asked her on dates, which her mother forbade. And then Debbie West and Gibson says she was seven and team when More spoke to her high school class Civics class asked her out on what was the first of several dates that did not progress beyond kissing. Another woman says she was eighteen a cheerleader when Moore began taking her on dates, including bottles of Mattuse rose wine the legal drinking ages nineteen. She was eighteen. Of the four women, the youngest at the time is this woman Corfman, who says she who says who was the only one who says she had sexual contact with more that went beyond kissing. She says they did not have sexual intercourse. Then you go to more statement. These allegations are completely false. A desperate political attack by the National Democratic Party in the Washington Post on this campaign. Either way, the Post supported the Democratic his opposition in this campaign. The Post, as a matter of fact, you know, was dead set against them. Anyway, Now this woman anyway, none of the women donated the campaign said it's true. It's the garbage. It's garbage, the very definition of fake news. None of the women donated a Moor's campaign, etcetera, etcetera. Anyway, she works as a customer service representative at a payday loan business, and she says she voted Republican in the past, including Donald Trump. She says she thought in fronting more personally for years almost came forward publicly during his first campaign for the Supreme Court in two thousand. Decided against that her two children still in school, three divorces, messy financial history might undermine her credibility. There's no one here that doesn't know that I'm not an angel, she said, referring to her hometown of Gadsden, Alabama. She described her story consistently in six interviews with The Post. The Post confirmed that her mother attended a hearing at that time, and they looked at divorce records. Moore's office was down the hall from the courtroom. Now Neither Corpman or any of the other women sought out the Post. While reporting a story in Alabama about supporters of Moore's campaign, a Post reporter heard that more allegedly had sought relationships with teenage girls. After After the ensuing three weeks, two reporters contacted and interviewed all four women, etcetera, etcetera. I have prayed over this at the on and on. Now here's where we are, thirty eight years later, not talking about intercourse that I think in the case of the other two women, you're talking about dating beyond the age of consent, only kissing apparently involved. So now the question is, you know, did this happen when he was thirty two. He's now seventy years old. And when you look at all of what we're now seeing, like, for example, there's another story in the New York Times today that Louis c k the comedian, is now crossed the line into sexual misconduct. They've got five women there. Then you've got since Weinstein broke, look at what we have found out, you know, look at all the allegations. Ben Affleck two accusers, and you got Roy Price, it was the director interestingly of Bezos Amazon Studios, and he has an accuser. Oliver Stone as one accuser. You've got Bob Weinstein, the brother has an accuser. You've got John Besh who was a chef, I guess the famous chef. He had multiple accusers. James Toback at least two thirty eight accusers, is attended the documentary Night Will Fall. Then you've got you know, people George Herbert Walker Bush was accused four times when when he was in his wheelchair. And then you've got Terry Richardson multiple people, Kevin Spacey multiple people, and Ben Affleck multiple people. Jerry Pivet, multiple people, Dustin Hoffman, multiple people, you know, Brett Ratner multiple people at Westwick multiple people, Steven Segal multiple people. How do we ever ever figure out the truth that I mean I'm being I'm asking because we all hate anybody that would abuse any woman because it's so offensive. How do you ascertain he said? She said? And how do you do it forty years later? Does some people do this because they want money for political reasons? Do some people do it because they've been so traumatized they couldn't speak earlier? We'll examine a lot of this today. I got a lot of news to get to eight nine for one, Sean, And you know how I love hearing great American success stories and sharing them all with you. Well, our favorite T shirt, underwear sock company, Tommy John, Well that's one of them now. Tom Patterson grew up in a small town in South Dakota. After college, he had a successful career. He was selling medical devices on the West Coast, but he quickly became fed up with the ways undershirt kept coming untalked. 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Chicago comedy duo I won't mention it anyway, they landed a gig, a chance to perform at the US Comedy Arts Festival Aspen, Colorado. Louis c. K invites him to hang out in his hotel room for a nightcap after the late night show. Quote the New York Times rights they didn't think twice the bars were closed. They wanted to celebrate. It goes on. He was a comedian, they admired, and it goes on the women would be together anyway long thing. As soon as they sat down in the room, still wrapped in their winner jackets and hats, he asked if he could take out his beep, and then he proceeds needed to do it, take all his clothes off, get completely naked, and start masturbating, and then it goes on for their Another person called Louis c K to invite him to one of her shows. During the phone conversation, she could hear him doing the same as they spoke. Another comedian woman said that while she was appearing with Louis c K on a television pilot, he asked if he could do it in front of her. She declined. Now, after years of these rumors about him doing this in front of associates, women are now coming forward to describe what they experienced. I this is a This is a very hard topic because for a lot of reasons, I can understand women that don't speak. I find it repugnant anybody that abuses a woman this way, absolutely repugnant. But I also know that there are ten commandments. One of them is thou shalting bare false witness human beings break the other nine. Some of these instances I am certain are true. Some of them I suspect may be false. How do you ascertain the difference, especially if you're going back nearly forty years thirty eight years in the case of the more, Judge Moore? Is it politically motivated? You know? Why do people wait in this case thirty eight years? Is it about money? In some cases? Is it? These are interesting times? Anyway, We'll get your thoughts on all of this. So much other news will get to next. We'll debate that later in the program. Katie Hopkins, Graldo and Jonathan Gillham. Alright to the top of that. Does anybody remember a frequent guest on this program. He's on Hannity the TV show all the time. He's a dear friend of mine. Love him to death. You work for Coca colas, a top executive, Godfather's Pizza. You know, incredible resume. You know if I say that, if I say these words, you know who I'm talking about, and that would be Herman Kaine. Herman Kaine. All of a sudden is is rising in the polls. Remember Herman Kaine rising in the polls dramatically, and then all of a sudden, all these allegations, a flurry of allegations start coming out against Herman Kaine. And he even said, unlike Donald Trump, I could not afford to go out there and defend myself. And he had gone on shows, made the Niles and he gets out of the race. Think about this. Ever since he's been out of the race, not a peep, not a word. I don't know whether or not what the Washington Post is reporting thirty eight years ago, up to forty years ago with Roy Morris, true, I don't know, and I don't think anybody knows except the people that are involved in the people that make allegations. Now, it's interesting because I do think people make allegations years later. I think that you know, people could be so disgusting, so crude, so absolutely offensive. There are harassers, there are dark, evil people. I'm the one that keeps saying there's evil in this world. There's plenty of evil in the world, and I believe that these stories sometimes are true. Like for example, I'll give you an example, Bill Clinton, I interviewed all of those women. I believed them all, but I believed them when I looked them in the eye, and you know, a cumulatively, you begin to put a picture together. And then I think, after Monica Lewinsky came out, everybody says, Okay, now I see what Hannity saw on him. I can't judge on I can't. I don't have X ray vision. I can't just see into somebody's heart, their mind, their soul, what's going on inside them. I don't understand this. This there's apparent sickness that these people have, some of them. It is as a father knowing that there are predators out there like this, it scares the hell out of me of a daughter, as a as a brother, and you know, I just just has a tremendous respect for people. I don't understand the behavior. I can't. You know, if Louis c k did these things, I'm like, what the hell is wrong with him? It's something really wrong. But I also, you know, when I think about, let's just stay on the Herman can for a minute, I note new Herman came so well. I never believed it instinctively, and then look what happens it went away. Now what's fascinating is now we've got politicians weighing in on all of this, and it's interesting who is weighing in. Mitch McConnell would spend a fortune trying to defeat Judge Roy Moore. If it's true, you've got to get out of the race. John McCain is now just called for Roy Moore to withdraw, whether or not the allegations are true. Okay, so now you've got the swamp, you got the sewer, you got the establishment. They hate Roy Moore, Roy more to them as another Ted Cruz, another Mike Lee, somebody they can control Rampaul. They can't control those guys. The last thing they need is another one of them that actually pleasing the promises they make, etcetera. You know it is funny too, because you know Democrats never called them. Bill Clinton has stepped down after he was you know, after all the stuff that happened with him, none never, not one time. So there's politics and all of this. Then you have false allegations that are made, and you know, how do you determine it's he said, she you're looking at me puzzled, whilere you looking at me with that. Look, no, I just I'm listening to you. And I think it's a very very dark and and sad place that we've come to because allegations are being waged and in the court of public opinion, you know, people are guilty until they're proven innocent. And it's very very sad. And I think it's very sad for victims because there are real victims out there that want to tell the truth and maybe they're afraid to do it. And then there are people who use the word victim as leverage in a way to get things. And I think it's really a scary time. There are fualse allegations made. You know, I can tell you another thing that is a common practice. People make an allegation, for example, big corporations, big corporations, they make a business decision. Alright, if I pay two hundred thousand dollars, this goes away. Okay, you're out of here, we're done with you. It's all over, even though they don't believe it happened. But then they're gonna have somebody that comes in and says, okay, this is gonna be the cost of litigating nous and the person the other the accusers attorney is gonna work pro bono and that means for free. And they're going to see this to the ends of the earth unless they can get out. And blah blah blah blah. That happens too, and other people just do do some people do it for political reasons. How do you possibly tell no the truth? Except okay, so the two other girls were older in this case. He was apparently like thirty two, and he dated one girl was eighteen, one girl was seventeen. They never said he did. There was no sexual there was kissing involved. And then they're saying this one encounter with the fortun and consensual, that's true. Um, And there's you know, I just I don't know how you find out the truth. But then I remember Ray Donovan, How do I get my good name back? So we all find any allegation of abuse of women repugnant all of us and unacceptable. But you know, it's interesting. When Hillary Clinton was being hung out to dry, as the Democrats would like to describe it, we gave her, you know, endless amounts of time to explain herself, whether it was Benghazi, whether it was the email server, whether it was her defending her husband and blaming the women in the horrible name she called those women, even though they settled with those women. You know, these women came out and they spoke about it, and and they were completely chastised by the media and they were called every name in the book. But now because it's another and yeah, you can say that this is ridiculous that you know, we're bringing up the discussion of party already, but we do. We have the establishment in the Democrats that want to bury somebody because he's not willing to fall in line and because of the fact that he thinks of things that in their eyes are extreme. And it's very it's very difficult to bring this up right now, But unfortunately, I think it's important we have to talk about it because Bill and Hillary were granted every so much rope so much leeway to explain their side. Roy Moore Woppo puts it on the front page. It's done. You know, Wappo is not so innocent here either. You know, Bezos has his hands dirty with Roy Price. He's he had to resign, he had to take his leave of absence. I like to see how many days that was on the cover of wapp Why would John McCain. Now, remember that they were so against Roy Moore and his primary Why would he not give Judge more the presumption of innocence before being proven guilty. I mean, he's look in the case of Kevin Spacey, they're basically admitting it. In the case of Weinstein, they're basically admitting it. But then there are other people that say, no, that didn't happen. Do they deserve the presumption of innocence? Does an allegation in the court of public opinion then renders somebody unelectable? You know that Herman Kaine had to pull out, and Judge Moore has already said that this is untrue. We're waiting for more information from him. His office has released his statement, but he has already said that it is untrue. But unfortunately, again we go back to this, you know, lamestream media, who wants to run with the headline that brings down someone who is a concert's also you know, and you look at Hollywood they joked and won't play this later in the program today, but they joked so much at Off everybody knew Weinstein was up to no good. They all knew it. And then uh, then remember the love of Rome, when Polanski escaped justice and was on the lamb and is still on the lamb and living in France a good life, and he gets an Academy award at the allegation was he raped a thirteen year old and and fed her with with booze and quay ludes and raped her repeatedly, and he hasn't come back for justice. He got a massive standing ovation when he got an oscar goes to Roman Polanski, but he is, there's Hollywood, there's their vote of confidence. They sound very outrage. Didn't he apologize at some point if I am I mistaken that Polanski at some point acknowledge that it had happened or something. I don't remember. I don't want to say for sure. All Right, we're gonna get to your calls on it. By the way, I just read this in UM. It was in the Washington Post and on CNBC dot com. But the Senate tax plan revealed today apparently now is going to delay the phase into the corporate tax cut from thirty five they first. The Washington Post first reported of the delay until citing four people briefed on the planning. Okay, I'm just saying right now, one year from now, your Republicans, if that's your plan, goodbye, You're done. You will be finished. You are gonna get slaughtered at the ballot box. You're literally it's in your hands. It's in all of your hands, your future. How interestingly, the Washington Post had a story about yesterday about Paul Ryan where with Trump, he said, we already made the choice. He was all with my friend Brian Kilmead and asked if Ryan, if the GOP you know, to choose between Bush style Republican policies and Trump. Ryan didn't equivocate. We already made the choice where we're Trump. I don't particularly like the House Bill. It's great on the corporate side, it's great on the repatriation side. The President already did everything he could do with and he's still doing more with, you know, getting rid of Obama air regulations and energy independence. That's all great for the forgotten men and women in this country that need jobs and need to get out of poverty and off of food stamps. But the fact that they have abandoned Reagan conservative supply side across the board tax cuts, and they're increasing taxes because they don't want to be blamed for tax cuts for the rich when anybody that pays federal income taxes by definition, is pretty rich. The only reason I'll support the bills because it does give some large chance of some significant economic growth. But if you're gonna do it, do it right. Cut the top, cut every rate. Well, what about revenues. Well, hopefully the economy grows at a clip of four or four and a half five percent GDP every year and then you'll grow your way out and if you'd have some spending. They didn't cut one thing, not a single dollar. Are they cutting this? This is a shadow of what Republicans once stood for. Bench McConnell. Seriously not. It's unbelievable. All right, Melanie is in California High Melanie, how are you? I'm actually seating right now. I'm so mad at the establishment. Republicans right now in the response to this is driving me nuts. They they it smells exactly like September or October last year when they were so willing to throw the president under the bus just because of unsusubstantiated allegations. They don't know. We don't know what Roy Moore has done. Nobody knows at this point. So why he's said he's now seventy years old. This allegedly happened when he was thirty two. It's ridiculous. It's I mean, even if so, let's even film that maybe there's some veracity to this. Why one month before the election, when they don't even know, are they so quick to throw him under the bus and put Doug Jones into the place, into the Senate. It's ridiculous, I think by the quick, quick, quick response by McConnell and McCain told speaks volumes to me Bill in Southampton, Thank you, Melanie. What's up? Bill? Listening to w R the all new w R seventh Ton of New York. Hey, Sean, thanks for taking more quote so on a broader sense. I just like your previous call. I'm out here of myself feeling violated by the damn Republican establishment. Every single day. We gave them the power and we are getting nothing in return from these guys. I'm sick of the mistreatment and I'm sick of being dismissed by them all the time. Whether it goes whether it's the new tax bill or whether it's Obamacare, it's the same story, and they're not supporting our president. We voted them in and they're not giving us anything. Twenty nineteen is a that is a formula for electoral disaster, and it won't be Trump's fault that they lose. All Right, we'll squeeze in Derek and Florida. Thank you, Bill, what's up, Derek, oh Solan, Thanks for having me on UM. I could not have said it any better than you about Herman Kane. But I guess that's why you're the talk host that I'm calling you. You're nice, but listen, I mean, not a word Herman Kinge gets out of the race. You never heard a word again, not a word. I'm gonna tell you something. There are women that make legitimate allegations. There are women that are victims. They are a horrible, dark, evil people in this world. If if we can find them, they deserve every bit of of whatever the law could throw with them. I don't know how you thread a needle between that and people that maybe do it for politics, do it for money. I don't know. I want the truth, That's what I'm looking for. I think the But I don't know how you go back forty years and get to the truth. I don't know. We'll have more on this with uraldo with Jonathan Gillum. We also have Steve Scalise today, we have Sarah Carter, Victoria Tunsing and they'll globby one. Katie Hopkins all check it in. Hey. You know, Twitter reaction to this more issue is pretty phenomenal, um, and you have people saying that, UM, a lot of different things here, But when McCain runs out, even if you're innocent, you should step aside? Would you? Will you tell me you're telling me? Just before we came on, no, I was just saying that, you know, since McConnell's so eager to bury Roy Moore, maybe we should return the favor and say, when he's proven innocent, maybe Mr McConnell can step down as the leader. Uh, why would McCain say, Jess McCain can go with McCain for a thirty eight year alec gation you don't even give the presumption of innocence. I thought that was fundamental to our society, you know. And then the bigger question, how do you ever ascertain the truth if a thirty eight year old allegation like this is made? The Senate releasing our belt today and from what we parted, it might be drastically different from what you guys said put out over here, either a phase in or things out of the corporate tax rate, not full repeal. The state tax. They will fully repeal tall even though you talked about the importance of that compromise, Um, is that going to be problematic for resolving also a democratic aid? Overheard you joking with Mr McConnell about going to conference. Are you guys seriously going to I think put the political hack aside. Uh, we are going to conference. And that's the point I've been making it. We're going to conference. Uh, that wasn't a joke. That wasn't the person. I don't even know who which which heck did that? Uh, But you know, if you were there, it's we're going to conference. Why we're going to conference because we're doing this the right way. We're doing this regular order. And yes, the Senate bill is going to be different than the House bill because you know what, that's the legislative process. But what's encouraging and all of this is, just as we discussed at the front end of this process, we have a framework that we established with the White House and the Senate, and these bills are being written withinside that framework. But the House will pass its bill, the senter will pass its bill, and then we will get together and reconcile the differences, which is the legislative process, and that's how this process will continue. One of those analysis that you say that in the out years, these families, more of these families will see a tax increase. Um that primarily you talk about the sunsets, right, talk about why are you chosen to do those suntimes. Why when so many of the things on the corporate and business side are permanent. Why not will make some of those things to keep the It's a good question. You see both. You see uh, the expension provision sunset, so you see business provisions sun set, and you see some individual provision sunset. But in our bill um the primary presivisions, the big provisions like the rates and the child tax credit, those things are made permanent. Why because certainty is really important for economic growth. And that's why we believe if you sunset the wrong provisions, you will actually do damage to economic growth and forward planning. But what we also learned from the economic standpoint of the things that are sunset are done in a way that they won't damage economic growth. They will actually encourage economic growth. And also it's just to be conformed with the rules. We have Senate budget rules that we have to be mindful of, and we want to make sure that when we pass the bill out of the House that that bill um adheres to the Senate rules so that we can use the reconciliation tool that we need to use to pass tax reform. So those sunsets are things that are done to make sure that this bill conforms to the rules. We don't personally like in the House, but we need to follow if we want to make sure that it's privileged. I mean, there is this explication that Kyra's black later takes sending those I believe that as well. Alright, Hour to Sean handed the show eight nine one, Shawn tell free telephone number. You want to be a part of the program. I'll get back to this issue of Judge Moore in just a minute. And also we have Haralder of Vera, Jonathan Gillham, the Gobby one, Katie Hopkins. We have the latest on uranium one and the latest on the dossier issue. Uh two bits of information. Republicans in the Congress took a pair of steps today to drive their tax reform bill, and you have a key committee now proved the tax package after some last minute changes, while Republican senators uh made public their details. The downside of what the senator is doing here is that you know, they're now talking about a delay in the implementation of the lower corporate tax rate until well. Doesn't help anybody out. And as I've been saying, I think on the corporate side, it's great. Corporate tax from a thirty rate, that's fantastic. Repatriation multi trillion multinational trillions of dollars parked overseas, bring it. That's great. But the President has done on his own in terms of getting rid of burden some big government regulations Obama ror regulations has been great. His moves on pushing the country towards energy independence, old things he didn't need Congress to do. That's great. But if the Senate is gonna wait till they're gonna get slaughtered one year from now. Anyway, joining us is Steve Scalise and he is the Republican Party whip. Uh. Why are you laughing? Was something I said, funny, how are you? It's just good to be back with you. Sean how are you You say that, but you're gritting, You're you're gritting your teeth. There's Hannity again. All right, Well, first of all, how are you feeling. I mean, you know, we watched in horror the day that you were shot on that practice field preparing for the congressional baseball game that you have for charity, and I know it was not an easy go for you. And the last time I spoke with you, still struggling. How are you doing? Yeah, doing really good, Seawan. And you know, obviously back then on June fourteen, so you know, there were a few times that day where I almost didn't make it, and uh, you know, luckily had a great team of surgeons. I had great Elae officers, Capitol Police and the Alexandre police officers who literally ran to the fire, ran to the gunman and and ultimately took him down, and uh, you know, and all of us lived, and you know, and we're lucky. And you prayed for so many people prayed for me in my family, and I just want to thank you for that because those prayers really lifted me up. And I'm doing well. I had physical therapy today. We're working on trying to walk again without crutches. So, you know, I can walk with crutches, but you know, can't walk without them yet, so we're working on that. What is your what is your play baseball again? What is your prognosis long term? Are you gonna get full functioning back? Well, they tell me that I will be able to walk without crutches, you know, and hopefully that's coming up in the next few months. But whether or not I can run again and you know, play the sports I played before is an open question because I've got some real nerve damage and especially on my left foot. So uh, you know, that's that what we're trying to work on. But you know, even if that doesn't come back, Um, I'm lucky to be alive. I've got my family and well I know how to prepare. Listen, you know I have spies everywhere. I had heard you had gotten within the first twenty four hours like a dozen or more blood transfusions. Is that true? Yeah. When I came in to the emergency room by helicopter from the baseball field, they said I had a zero blood pressure, which, as you can imagine, that means you're kind of dead. A lot of people don't make it out from that and I lost almost all of my blood. They had to do a massive transfusion, and you know, there were a lot of blood draws after. Even Vice President Pence gave blood for for those blood draws, and I appreciate all of the help there, but uh, you know, it was it was. I would have given you my blood, but your body probably would have rejected it. But you know, uh no, I always take more. In all seriousness, Thank God you're okay. And that day, I will say this, the Capitol Police were there for you because of your position. And I never saw such bravery in my life. And as somebody that is I'm well versed in the use of firearms. Going up against a rifle at a distance, walking into an open field with a pistol, the sitting ducks, You're done. It's that the odds of them surviving that are limited. If the guy is a good shot, halfway decent shot. Yeah, he had a semi automatic rifle seven sixty two caliber. That's when I was shot with massive bullet does a lot of damage. And both of them were shot. Both David Baley and Crystal grind are my two Capitol Police Security Detail officers, were shot while shooting at the shooter, and they never gave up. In fact, they went towards him, which but the hero was in bravery. I mean they're incredibly well trained, but police officers every day risk their lives for people and it goes unnoticed. That's why we all niced. How are they doing? By the way, how are they with their injuries? I saw him today? In fact, Capitol Police gave the Medal of Honor to UH to both Crystal and David, as well as the three Alexandria Police officers who were involved in the shooting and taking down the shooter. And Crystal um she she had her left ankle really blown out, that the bullet went through her left ankles, a lot of bone damage and she's now off of her she had a boot on for a while. She's using one cru now so she's down to one crutch. She's looking really good. She was able to walk a little bit without a crutch. David Bailey is he's back in the run in shape. I mean he is raring to go. Just an incredible guy and a great spirit and uh, you know he's he's back again. We gave each other hugs this morning. It's great to see them every time I get that opportunity. All right, let me ask you about this tax bill, and uh, look, I love the corporate side, as I said, but at the end of the day, the top rate is going to stay the same. To me, that is an abandonment of Reagan conservative supply side across the board tax cuts. You know, I I believe that all the things you're doing, we're gonna help grow the economy and help the forgotten men and women that mattered in this election. But on the other side of it, I'm I'm worried that Republicans are just too fearful that they're gonna be blamed for tax cuts for the rich when pay nearly all the taxes. So by definition, well, first on, every every income bracket does better under our bill. And somebody making thirty thousand a year is going to do really well under this bill. Somebody making thirty million dollars is going to also do well because we cut taxes across the board. Even if you look at the thirty nine six percent rate, people will be paying that percentage on less of their income because we move more of their income into the lower brackets, especially the twenty percent rate. In the twelve percent rate. So just think about this. The first ninety thousand dollars of your income will be taxed at twelve percent now, which is UH an incredibly low rate for for most families. And the first twenty four thousand dollars we double the personal exemption, so the standard deduction, So your first four thousand is not going to be taxed, and everybody across the board gets attacked cut plus the corporate side, as you mentioned in our bill in the House, Kevin Brady just passed out of his committee tax rate down from thirty five, highest in the industrialized world. That's immediate. We wanted to make an immediate because we want to get that economic impact and bring jobs back to America. And we do that. Something else we do we completely repeal the death tax, Shawn. That's something that you know, everybody knew. I've heard that six years away, though you're not going to do it right away. It phases out, so each year it gets we increase the amount that is exempt from the death tax until it finally completely goes away. And I like the idea, but anytime you get you know, we always get the spending, UH, we always get the tax increase, and we never get the spending cuts and we always get you know, the bulk of these cuts are immediate. For families, your your lower income tax brackets, those are immediate. The corporate tax cuts are immediate. So there you're gonna get a lot of benefit there. But also if you look at the phase out, part of that is done because look, I mean, we had targets we had to hit, and you don't want to increase the deficit. This is going to bring in a lot of new economic activity. So you know, let's let's see how this works. It's gonna work really well from the estimates we're getting already. H You're seeing reports at average families will get over more in their pockets, and you're gonna see wage growth, something we haven't seen in a long time, Shawn, because economy was going so slow because of the batt Obama policies and the crazy regulations. Of course, President Trump has finally reversed a lot of that. You're seeing slow increase now in economic quotes actually pretty sign Why why why not? And across the board cut the top one percent for example, they pay, or the top ten percent pay the taxes bottom why not go on all of the rates. And for example, you know you're gonna keep the top rate where it is, but then you're gonna take away exemptions like you know, state and local taxes. I got a ten percent income tax in the State of New York, three percent city tax State of New York. Um, I can deduct that now, but that's gonna be gone. So even I have the same rate and less deductions, and it means I pay more. By the way, it's not about me. I'm just asking, you know, specifically, why wouldn't we go back to the Reagan philosophy of supply side conservative tax cuts across the board. Well, first, these rates are a lot lower than they were under President Reagan and President you can finally confront at tax or film. Reagan was down. He was down if you went from seventy top marginal rate and is is yours? Right? But if you look at what we're doing. Number one, there are rules that say you can't you can't cut taxes more than one point five trillion dollars in this because of this bill actually reconciliation and compliant. Yeah, because of bucket budget reconciliation. You need to make sure that the bill can actually get to President Trump's task, so you you can cut one point five trillion in taxes, which we do. And if you look at where we focused at, President Trump really wanted to focus this on middle class tax relief, and so that's what we did. Everybody's going to get a tax cut. Millionaires still will have have less of their income tax, so you know, everybody's going to benefit from this. We repeal the alternative minimum tax, by the way, something else that hits a lot of upper middle income folks in a very unfair way that goes away under this bill. So you know when you look at the whole thing, and you'll be able to there's be a calculator coming out real soon where you're gonna be able to look at your personal situation, and I think you're going to find most people will see that they will pay less in taxes under this plan, and you get economic growth. I'm sick and tired of seeing companies move jobs overseas just because our tax rates so high. Those jobs will now start coming back. And we've heard listen, listen, I'm supporting the bill in the House. What if the Senate waits, What if the Senate says that is a that is political suicide to me. Well, ultimately both sides are gonna have to come to an agreement. You can see where we are in the house. Do you agree with me? Is dumb? Well, I want to see us make these make these immediate. You can, by the way, you can say it. It's true, it's dumb because that doesn't help the men and women that are in poverty and food stamps and out of the labor force and grow the economy. Why wait, And by the way, one of the things we've talked to President Trump about. President Trump really wants to after we get these tax cuts in place and you see job growth, Uh, you're gonna need more workers. We need to confront some of these other problems in our society, like a runaway well the program, and so we're gonna have real welfare reform that President Trump wants to embark upon. Let's get people back to work, Welfare to work worked when it was done, President Obama got in a lot of those laws. Let's put those back in place to help people get into the middle class and become part of the American dream. All right, Steve school Head, Well, I was so glad you're you're doing better and we wish you a full complete recovery. Uh, please go to Mitch McConnell's office and tell him I said, it's dumb and he's gonna get a lot of people fired if he does that. Anyway, I gotta go pass through the house. That's where my focusing. I gotta I'm really behind. Let me, I gotta break and we wish you the best. So we really do. By the way, I apologize to my stations along the Cox Radio network right now. One of the reasons I think, and I learned this in Atlanta, that I end up being right in the media ends up being wrong so often. I learned this lesson in Atlanta. Richard Jewel a j C. He fits the profile of the lone bomber. He lives with his mother, and everybody began to talk about the hero that turned into the villain that might have been response. Turns out he was innocent and I was. I didn't know that day was listening to my radio show. Gave me one of the first interviews after came out. He was innocent. You know, look at all these cases vetting Obama. The media wouldn't do it. I did, and vetting him I knew he was a radical ideologue who would govern as a radical. He did. The media not thinking Trump would win. They were caught up in their narrative. They were wrong. Ferguson Missouri, hands up, don't shoot. They were wrong. Duke Lacrosse. They were wrong. In the case of Ferguson Missouri. They were wrong. Trayvon Martin, Martin, George Zimmerman, they were wrong. Look at Obama himself, a lawyer, was wrong on Cambridge, wrong on Ferguson, wrong on on Baltimore, wrong on Trayvon Martin, George Zimmerman. I actually believe in the presumption of innocence, still be improven guilty the media now in the court of public opinion, there's app thirty eight years later, you got a million Republicans now say, oh, Judge Moore, if he did that, he gotta go. John McCain, even if you're innocent, you gotta go. Even if you didn't do what, you gotta go. They're all establishment figures. You see a pattern here, We'll continue. Congratulations. You five ladies no longer have to pretend to be attracted to Harvey Weinstein. Do you count? Harvey Weinstein is a course Harvey. Harvey Weinstein is a as a. I don't know whether he's in some kind of organized crime now, but he used to be like some kind of junior mob kind of guy, right was He was like in the mob auxiliary. That's what they tell me. He will coerce you to do with it. So and so Harvey said, I'll tell you what go on and then then talk about your movies. That what Harvey said. And in return, what will Harvey do for you? Nothing. I'm not afraid of anyone in show business. I turned down intercourse with Harvey Weinstein on no less than three occasions. Alright, that music can only mean one thing. Twenty five Now to the top of the one Shawn toll free telephone number. We'll get to Katie Hopkins. The gotta be one in just a second here, all right. So here's what has come out today, first broken by right bart dot com and because they knew that this Washington Post piece was coming out, and their headline is after endorsing the Democrat in Alabama, Bazos Washington Post, you know, Basos owns the Washington Post. For those of you don't know, plans to hit Roy Moore with allegations of inappropriate relations with teenagers. Judge claims it's a smear campaign. I'll go back and I'll give you the specifics of of all of this, But anyway, goes on and the Washington Post headline as women said, woman says Roy Moore initiated sexual encounter when she was fourteen and he was thirty two. Just a shy of forty years ago. Forty years ago, anyway, and it goes on to tell the story about how nine War, who is now the Republican nominee in Alabama for the U. S. Senate seat, was a thirty two year old assistant district attorney, struck up a conversation with a girl and her mother offered to watch the girl while her mother went inside for a child custody hearing. And he said, oh, you don't want to go in there and hear all that. I'll just stay out here with her, he said. Anyway, So the mother says, well, I thought, how nice for him to want to take care of my little girl. Now alone more chatted with the girl, they go on to say, as for her phone number. Days later, he picked her up around the corner from her house in Gadsden, Alabama, drove for about thirty minutes to his home in the woods, told her how pretty she was, and kissed her. On a second visit, she says he took her shirt and her pants and removed his clothes. He touched her brawn underpants and guided her hand to touch him all over his underwear. Remember we're going back thirty eight Almot forty years ago, and I wanted over with, I wanted out, She remembers, thinking, please just get this over with, whatever this is, just get it over now to parent. Friends of this childhood. Childhood friends said that she told them at the time that she was seeing an older man, and one says that she identified the man as as Judge Moore. Anyway, goes on to say that her daughter told her about the encounter more than a decade later, when More was becoming a more prominent as a local judge. Now. They then go on to talk about other people, and they talk about specific allegations that one was a seventeen years old More spoke to her high school civics class, asked her out on the first several dates that did not go beyond the progress of kissing all right. Then another girl says she was eighteen years old, a cheerleader when Moore began taking her on dates, including you know, bottles of Mattuse rose wine. The legal age was one year older, nineteen in Alabama. Of the four woman women, the youngest was the woman that's making this sexual allegation and accusation. And then it goes on. Roy Moore says this, these allegations are completely false and are desperate political attack by the National Democratic Party. In the Washington Post on this campaign, more is now seventy This allegedly happened when Moore was thirty two years old, and then he goes on to say that the campaign said in a subsequent statement that this garbage is the very definition of fake news. All right, Now, as we came into this segment, we were playing all of these people in Hollywood that knew of Weinstein's reputation. Now all of this is now, it's sort of like a cascading impact. We've talked about the casting couch, We've talked about you know, young girls want to get into modeling or music or the TV industry. And I said that, and I said, this is only the beginning. And how right I was Since that, let's see you have Jeff Bezos of Amazon Studio head the guy that worked for him, Roy Price, victim was a TV producer, Kevin Spacey, all the allegations we've heard about him. Had the National Enquirer picked up all over the country yesterday that Charlie Sheen had in fact rape for or Haim, who later committed suicide. Then you've got Ben Afflack. Ben Afflack in his particular case to specific allegations against him, and there were allegations against Dustin Hoffman that go back to and you've got Jeremy Piven. Then you've got the case of Roman Polanski. And because I just wondered everyone knew about Weinstein that didn't care. Roman Polanski was accused of plying a thirteen year old girl with alcohol and quayludes and raping her. Listen to this, The oscar goes to Roman Polanski head this and that was the reaction when the guy that has been living abroad and avoiding justice in America got his Academy award. That's Hollywood's reactions used of a thirteen year old girl. Anyway, here's some really you know, fascinating questions. How do you know if it's true? How do we what what's true? What's not true? How do you ascertain the truth? What happens when it's thirty eight years later? It's a serious topic. And because if it's true and people act like this, it's disgusting, it's despicable, it's criminal if people, you know some people do people lie? Now, we do have ten commandments. One of the commandments is thou shalt not bear false witness. We know human beings break with regularity the other nine commandments. Did they break this one? I mean it's something to think about. Why is it so bad? Because you can ruin somebody's reputation with an allegation. Katie Hopkins is with us of the Daily Mail across the Pond. I mean, you're always outspoken. How do you tell? How do we how are we the American people, to ascertain what is true and not true? It's starting to be an impossible question, isn't it? That doesn't have an answer? But what I would say is that women, and I am loosely a woman, women have never been so disappointing. The idea to me that someone comes out, what is it thirty eight years later allegedly and it's suddenly remembering how terribly traumatized she was. If she was stood right next to me now, I would be saying to her, that's not good enough. You've taken this many years to remember how upset you used to be. That is not good enough. You are disappointing as a woman. I can't believe in an era where you know, I watched the pussy marches after Trump's inauguration, marching through the street, how strong women were, all their banners about how strong they are, how their bits and bobs are made of steel. We are so tough. If you're that tough, women, then why aren't you at some point standing up for yourself. We've got British politicians here. But listen, I love you. I'm going to tell you what people are going to say to you. Feminist in particular, Are you blaming the victim? Are you doubting the victim? That's what people are going to say. Yeah, And immediately when people say, oh my god, you're victim blaming your victim, blame me. Immediately. You're supposed to lie down, quake in your boots, like when people throw the term racist about, you know, at me for no reason. You're supposed to lie down and go No, of course I'm not victim blaming. Well guess what, actually, yes, I am. At this point, I am pointing the finger straight at Let's just pick this one woman that's been talking about with roy More allegedly. You know, I am pointing my finger at her, and I'm staying to that woman. You disgusted me. You spent thirty eight years thinking about this before you said anything. Now you decide to speak. You disgusted me because what you're doing, woman, is you're making it so that every other woman like me who likes working with men, who's happy just cracking on next to men, who actually finds men rather better to work for than women, because the sisterhood doesn't exist. You're making women poison to work for. If I was you know, if I was employing someone, now, would I employ a woman, especially if I was a man. No, I would not. And women like this do women like me a massive disservice. I am sick, and I'm sick of all of the Hollywood coming out and you know, screaming about Weinstein after the event you took his oscar. Let me just let me just take the other side of this for a second. You know, what listen, If any woman is abused, there is a violation, it's I think it's violence more than it is you know, when people say, I don't want to get into definitions here, but here there are predator people out there, there are evil people. And maybe for years there was a stigma associated with telling the truth. And maybe you know what, maybe people now feel emboldened because some women have told the truth. But then also, you know, are there false allegations and when it's he said, she said, or whatever, how do you tell the difference? You know what I mean? I mean because I I actually in all these cases, I'm sure some of these women are telling the truth. But how do we determine who are and who aren't? And in an age where we cannot, we have to I think, maybe get to a point where we cannot determine initially who's telling the truth, who isn't, who's been you know, deceived, who's being manipulated by the Democrats or otherwise, What we, I think need to do, and what we perhaps can do is agree that due process has to be followed so that people are innocent and less proven guilty. And what we've just had in the UK, in the last twenty four hours, because we're seeing exactly the same pattern happening over here as you have there. We've just had an MP. He was hauled in. He's a Welsh MP hauled in. He was told about the nature of allegations against him, which were unwarranted no sorry, unwanted attention or groping. He wasn't told what they specifically were. And within twelve hours that man was dead because he has a wife and two children, and he killed himself because of the shame and the pressure and not knowing what the charges were. And yet he was already seen as guilty before he'd even had chance to defend himself. And that's what concerns me is We're going to see more people lose their lives, I think, because this sort of thing is so all pervasive, and we can't tell who's lying and who isn't, and the mob just decides that people are guilty as soon as they hear an allegation made. I think that's a terrifying thing. I gotta take a break. We'll come back. The Gobby one Katie Hopkins is right as we continue. Katie Hopkins is with us, the Gobby one from the Daily mail. Is it more credible when there's a series of people making allegations like, for example, as I read the Washington Post piece, you know, one girl was seventeen, one girl was eighteen. Neither said that there was anything other than him asking them out on dates and kissing them. That's as far as it went in those cases. So I think they included that to make it make the original allegation from nearly forty years ago bigger. And I think there's no doubt that the Washington Post has an agenda. One has to ask why didn't this come out during a primary campaign. Judge Moore has been one of the most controversial figures in Alabama four years years. Of course, of course he was on our news here in the UK, you know, with them portraying him in exactly the same way last night. Very biased across our media. The portrayal of Roy more very biased in terms of what he's going to bring, that he's an extreme version of Trump. You know, that's the messaging that's being played out on this side of the Atlantic. I don't think it makes it any more credible when you get multiple stories coming out about the same person. I think credibility for me is women that report things within a week, two weeks, a month, and when they found the time and effort and energy and support to report something, that's credibility for me. If you reported the instant when do not give any do not give any it's not going to but you do not give any credence to the idea that this is such a horrific act of evil violence and so traumatizes people that they live in fear, They live in fear of you know, a how they don't want people to know this horrible thing happened to them, so they bottle it up, they keep it up inside, and then fear that they're not going to be believed, fear that they're going to be blamed, fear, you know. I mean, I think there's legitimate reasons why and personal reasons why. Women Wait. I hear you, Suan, and you're kind, and you're I want to get to truth, and sometimes well, okay, but I think we spend too much time talking about you know, these women feel this, or these women feel you know, ashamed, these women feel this. You know, speaking as someone who's played the system, Sean, I am you know, my moral bar, as we both know, is very low. I have exchanged at times my youth, when I was younger, my whatever I had back then, I exchanged that for power. Sometimes women make exchanges winningly. Now you might go back and try and make that the man's fault. You know, I've worked in multiple offices where very old, unattractive men are dating the most attractive women in the marketing department, and that actually is a willing exchange between those two individuals. I think the idea that we somehow it's always men praying on women. Women are very calculating, women are very determined about what they want, and women are not weak. This idea that we're all massive victims. I think that's what I find so offensive about this. This is setting women back decades because it makes us sound like we can't stand up for ourselves. We've got politicians here, we managed to get our defense. Our secretary of Defense, Michael Fallon, has left his job in the cabinet because he touched someone's knee. If that's me, I'd be getting my other knee and kneeing him right where the sun don't shine and saying, do that again, and I'll who that again. You know, women are It's just it's desperate to me that women are portraying themselves as victims, as weak, as defenseless, as vulnerable, and I just am sick of it. And I understand your your client point, which is that there are real victims out there, But then you know what, Sean, what really annoys me all these feminists. They never have one word to say about the victims of Muslim grooming gangs because it's not politically correct to talk about that. So it seems that some victims matter more than others, and that partly is fueling my anger at these women who look for sympathy. Now thirty forty years later, Alright, I'm going to have this so um. I honestly, I honestly think that this is just the beginning of what's gonna be a cascading impact. And uh, we're gonna have to try and sort this out and get to truth. That's that's my goal in all of this. Katie. We always love having you on. Thank you for being with us. Eight D eight hundred nine for one, Shawn told free telephone number. You want to be a part of the program, News Round Up, Information Overload Hour coming up. At the top of the hour. We'll get back into this. Jonathan Gillam, Haraldo Rivera, we have the latest on what's happening with the dossier and Uranium one. Sarah Carter, Victoria Tunsing straight ahead. Congratulations, You five ladies no longer have to pretend to be attracted to Harvey Weinstein. For young I'm looking to Hollywood to hear of your own free will, as someone course you into being here. Count Harvey Weinstein is a course, you know, Harvey Harry Weinstein is as I don't know whether he's in some kind of organized crime now, but he used to be like some kind of junior mob kind of guy. Right. He was like in the mob auxiliary, that's what they tell me. And now he's like a big powerful film guy. Right. Yes, I do all my movies for Harvey Weinstein, that's me or Max, and I'm lucky to do them there. But he will coerce you to do with and so and so. Harvey said, I'll tell you what go on and then talk about your movies. That what Harvey said. And in return, what will Harvey do for you? Nothing? Really? Well, what's wrong with that equation? I'm not afraid of anyone in show business. I turned down intercourse with Harvey Weinstein on no less than three occasions. They askar goes to Roman Polanski hanness, all right, news round up, information overload our Shawn Hannity show. All right, So what you heard there was all these Hollywood superstars acknowledging they all knew the reputation of Harvey Weinstein and and what he would do with women in the casting couch. It was all confirmed. And then Roman Philanski had been on the lamb and been on the run and avoiding justice for all these years. Uh, this is a guy that had raped a thirteen year old girl after giving her alcohol and kayludes. Now why am I bringing this up all today's news. We were just discussing with Katie Hopkins. The gobby one is that in fact, Judge Roy Moore, the Republican candidate down in Alabama when he was thirty two years old forty years nearly forty years ago, that he had a sexual encounter, initiated a sexual encounter with a girl fourteen, and then he kissed one girl seventeen and one girl eighteen. That's all that was on those two cases. And then when you look at all the other alligator, Harvey Weinstein you got, you know, Kevin Spacey, Charlie Sheen, Ben Affleck, Dustin Hoffman, all these people. It's like one after another. How do you know and ascertain the truth? Anyway? News Round Up, Information Overload, horldo rivera Fox News legal analysts and host of what is the name of your show? HAROLDO at Large? Hold bards But I don't haven't had that show on it in a while, I know, but I always By the way, welcome back from Cleveland. You it's rare to have you in studio. Jonathan Gillham is the host of the Experts, author of the upcoming book Sheep No More. Welcome both of you. Let me start with you there forty years ago, we didn't hear about this in the primary um all these it's like a cascade now of all these allegations made from decades ago and decades ago, and if it happened as a as a father, as a brother. You know, I lost my mother years ago. Who who loves and respects women as you do, and as Jonathan does. You know, you hear these things and you're like, what's true? How do we ascertain what the truth is? I think the biggest part of the problem showing is that we have two standards. One is for everything else murder, bank, robbery, terrorism, whatever it is. We have one standard of proof and and recollection and credibility. And then, because of a lot of forces that are both scidal and and uh, politically correct, we have a whole different rule for sexual encounters. Now. I don't know Judge Moore, I don't know what he did with this young this girl of thirteen fourteen years old in nineteen seventy nine, forty years ago, but I know that she's been married three times since she has uh you know, she's working in a loan sharks office now, she says, you know, my My point is we suspend this belief because it is politically correct to believe every single allegation now being made. And by the look of it, Shoan all of his Republican colleagues are deserting him. They are buying the story hook line and sink. But there's politics that Mitch McConnell said, if it's true, you've got to get out of the miss McConnell hated him from day one. Mitch McConnell poured millions of establishment dollars against him and lost let me bring Jonathan in here. What you know, Look, if you care about women, you say, well, I gotta pay attention, you gotta listen to it. Do you need a pattern of behavior if it's is there statute of limitations? You know? But then again, what about women that have been trial so traumatized that they didn't have the strength to say something, but now they do? Right? Well, you know again we're the things that you that Werelda was just bringing up there for a second, um about the statue of limitations. We were also talking before we came into the studio was the age of consent. And with uh, I don't know about this fourteen year old girl, um, but with the other women that were saying that things happened, the age of consent is sixteen years old. So we're not even really looking at a legal issue with these other people that came forward and said things. But ultimately, you know, a lot of the times when women have sexual assault against them when they're younger, um, or things happen inappropriately when they're younger, they're gonna have certain behaviors that are gonna be characteristics of these types of things. And I'm gonna be the first person to say that if I don't care who the person is, what side of the aisle theron, if they've done something inappropriate and it's proven, Um, then I'm not gonna stand in the way of any of these people being condemned for what they've done. What I have a problem with though. Oh by the way, I forgot to mention once the comedian Louis c K. You know, five women say he crossed the line into the sexual misconduct. Louis c K also made jokes about pedophilia, and uh got some heat about that. But the thing is, sean um, is that when we when we look at the way that these things come up at these um you know, these times when there's an election process, when something's going on, it just so happens to be at that point in time. And for me, a lot of these concusers lose credibility when that happens, oh definitely. And the process of how quickly they want to condemn the other side wants to condemn it also just breaks down the credibility. I think two things. This should be a reasonable statute of limitations in society's mind. Maybe a decade, let's give you ten years, which is well more than most crimes, and there has to be some contemporaneous corroboration. Did you did you write a note? Do you have a text? Do you have an email? Did you did you tell you a girl? Did you tell your mother? Did you write it in your diary? You certainly had that. I mean something otherwise I have. I don't care about Roy Moore. He's obviously his politics are not my politics. But I think that in terms of essential fairness, if this really does torpedo his nomination for the United States Senate seat, as I think it is going to, then I think that that is uh, this is the kind of essential unfairness that's going to I think blunt this new movement to rute out sex harassment and so forth. I think it's gonna get worse. I think this is a cascading I look at all the names, you know, look at she and accused of raping Corey Haim. Here's the other problem with this is that I don't doubt for a second that there are truths and a lot of these accusations. I mean, what we just heard was chilling in that intro with Gwyneth Paltrow talking. But the other problem that you're facing here is the same thing that is widespread across college campuses and in the military, which is where people don't sexually assault somebody, where there isn't a sexual rape or something, and somebody makes an accusation, it's almost guilty until proven innocent in a lot of cases. And in politics. Uh, it's this is I said this earlier to Katie Hopkins. We have ten commandments in the Bible, right, we know human beings break nine out of the ten all the time. Fact. Now, the other one that I'm addressing here is thou shalt not bear false witness. That is one of the big ten. Why would it be one of the big ten to me? Because an allegation that is false, bearing false witness against thy neighbor can be so devastating Just the allegation alone can ruin somebody's life. And I think the court of public opinion is Wow. Now we're all talking about Roy Moore. Now let's look at it from both sides. What if he didn't do it and what if he did do it? For all the well, I think that how can you ever determine the truth or falseness of this allegation when it's four decades old? When everybody involved has been through so many different changes. I think sex harassment stinks. I think that predators in the workplace or wherever do so if their extreme peril. Look at what happen. You think people do it for a paycheck. Sometimes there has to be someone out there who's calling the human resources hotline motivated by something other than the desire to seek justice. It's sad because but those few women that that may have ulterior motives, then it hurts the women that are legitimate victims of what is I think, you know, heinous treatment of women. And this is a hard part about a statue of limitations, is that heinous act like um, sexual assault on somebody. You were saying, we were talking again that there's no statue limitation enforcible rate, enforcible rape. But again even and with a forcible rape, um, if it happened forty fifty years ago, or they're saying it happened forty years ago, it's very difficult to prove that. And somebody can just say that the person's career will be ruined and it may never come about anything in the court of law, you know, uh, I agree, And and and convictions are extremely rare. But if you look at that Scago case, remember the Kennedy cousin in Connecticut, that case twenty years later, no physical evidence whatsoever, and they got a conviction. So it is possible, unlikely, but possible. There is no civil remedy. They can't sue them. They know that. In other words, this woman can't be motivated by a paycheck from Roy Moore because there's no civil right to sue that has lapsed long ago. The Bill Cosby and of those cases, they're also bore barred by either the civil uh sessual limitations or the criminal or both uh and and Cosby. I predict there will be no convictions. I predict that all of everything you've heard of Bill Cosby, it will end up with him. Think it's true. I do think when I mean, there's so many women that have come out. I I know for a fact that that his reputation was such that when you talk to agents about Bill Cosby, they used to say that if you opened for Bill Cosby, the opening act, you opened for Bill Cosby. In other words, he sexually abused or had a sexual relationship with almost everyone he worked with. So I believe that he had a very sour reputation. Roy Moore, I don't know his reputation, but i'll tell you right now, he's he's wrecked. There's no way that the Republican Party can or will allow someone who allegedly molested the public is Look at the case of the Access Hollywood tape. There are a lot of us thinking that maybe it for Donald Trump. It was an October surprise. I thought I thought it was. I was, I was among them. But another one when when it's nearly it's thirty eight years ago, when Alannia said it was locker room banter, every guy listening, the vast majority, said oh, yeah, okay, I get it now and then and then when? And so what was an egregious allegation of obboxious flip and comment by the candidate at that time, But by his wife's intervention, she she mitigated it and brought it down to a level that people in my generation could relate to. Oh yeah, locker room. Yeah, you're saying your old schools and yeah, but you've changed. I mean, oh my god, have I changed? But you know, you have to remember what the sixties and seventies were, Like, I gotta break here, I got a. We'll have more on this on Hannity tonight at nine. Jonathan, thank you. We're all the great to have you back. Bro. Why not fish single? I gotta figure every starlet in Hollywood wanted at least you know what I'm saying. Did you did you ever get to experience the I'm gonna say the mugul aspect, I mean, do a little coke. You don't hang out with you know, I don't know. Julie could be a job something You've never got any of that, Howard, as you know only too well. It doesn't work that way. It doesn't really. I'll tell you who it works that way for. It works the way for the actors producers. Girl knows that that that that if she's a competent actress, she could get on your good side. You could make her a star over the night. Don't tell me it doesn't. I wish. I wish. The movies are too expensive, the risks are too great. It doesn't happen that you can't walk into the room, pull your fans off and say okay, John Frankenheimer, you know, the great director told us stories about his day in the movies. This this is we were we were born too late, because I've read about the great moguls, like the Louis B. Mayer's those guys, those guys, Yeah, these guys, I assume. But these guys, this this, this round, nothing really really, I hate to disappoint a few famous directors. I've asked them the same director, directors different, because directors can make the decision. But I I know a couple of famous directors. I mean, I'm not gonna embarrass them, talk talk them off here. And they tell me, actually that they never really got laid that much's really nothing. Well maybe that's an honorable thing too, I mean, you know, because really, I mean, you should women be able to get into the movie business without all that Hell no, of course, not only that, but they do you mean, you know, and you have women like Meryl Streep and Julia Roberts who are deeply committed to excellent causes, and Charlie's around. I mean, all these incredibly beautiful women, the great beauties. But they're so bloody intelligent and brilliant. You sit down with a girl like that, you don't want to do stupid. You want to just talk to them and say, be in my movie please, Yes, that I was kind of aggressive for I need to know a person an I think. Please, I swear, I won't just sit at me done embarrassing me in the hotel here all the time? Sit there, please one minute, please. I don't want to do something. I don't want it. I want you know, you just listen to this depravity. And you know the fact that everybody in Hollywood knew about Harvey Weinstein. Every they joked about, laughed about it. You know, in the case of Roman Polanski, years later he admitted he was this. But then when he gets an Academy award, avidity drugged a thirteen year old, got her drunk, and raped her. Repeatedly, Oh I'm sorry, he says. She was a victim of mine and then a victim of the press, and he has run from justice. In Hollywood applauded that like quick break, right back will continue. I learned about the dossier a few days ago. Okay, how how is that possible? I mean, well, because you hire a lawyer, and we we hire lawyers all the time who hire the third party vendors to do their work. There are a lot of questions about this Russian dossier and their evidence that has come out that the d n C helped fund it, because you know that was happening, and were you surprised to hear? I asked one question on November fourth, and I was told that I did not need to know, and so no, I did not know because I did not control my money. Explain you know campaigns. So the line item is called legal, the line item is called research. The line on them. What if you asked me today, because I had a list of all of the DNC consultants, do I see fusion GPS? No? Uh. But if you asked me, was this a question that came up during my tenures chair? It did on November four? Do you think it's wrong? Do you think it's a bad precedent to do legal research for opposition I was not involved in the contract and I don't know publican. I did not. I did megan Um. I was not involved in the hiring of this firm. I did not know about the existence of this contract. But in terms of opposition research, people go after things that I must tell you in America, they go after dirt. When they go after dirt. You saw what Trump Junior did, But no, I did not. I did not go after it. But just gets wrong to go to Russia to ask for opposition. Reason, don't you asking me about the dossier and how it was compiled. I don't know how it was compiled. I don't know who went after Mega. Now let me tell you what we found. Although we did not find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of classified information, there is evidence that they were extremely careless in their handling a very sensitive, highly classified information. For example, seven email chains concerned matters that were classified at the top secret Special Access Program at the time they were sent and received. Those chains involved Secretary Clinton both sending emails about those matters and receiving emails about those same matters. There is evidence to support a conclusion that any reasonable person in Secretary Clinton's position, or in the position of those with whom she was corresponding about those matters, should have known an unclassified system was no place for that conversation. All right, as we continue the very latest, of course, fusion GPS, the comments I don't know who did, I have no I have no idea, I have no idea who paid for the phony Russian dossier with propaganda lies Russian bought and paid for by Hillary Clinton the d n C that she was controlling, but nobody else knew and nobody had any idea whatsoever at all at any point at any time. And then of course James Comey blatantly misrepresenting other criminal statutes as it relates to well, extremely careless, even though he had gross negligence as the standard before he changed it. Sarah Carter investigative journalist, and she's been in the forefront of all of these stories. And also Victoria Tuntsing is back with us. He's a partner at the Jenneva and Tuntsing, and of course she is also representing the FBI informant in the Iranium one case. Welcome both of you back to the program. Let me begin with you, Sarah, what is your reaction with Donna brue Zilla has been saying in the last few days, Well, this is incredible. I mean, you look at John A. Brazil. I mean, I think that the book is very explicit. I mean, I know she's tried to hold back on some of her own statements that she actually put out in her book. But one of the things time that I am stunned by and this is um, maybe I'm not so much done. Is that? Remember in the beginning they kept trying to say even when don Junr had met and remember he didn't reach out to this tale in vesselment Skaya, this attorney, this Russian lawyer, somebody had said hey, there's somebody that has information for you. It's opposition research. And they said, well this you know, when that finally came out, when it finally came out that he had met with her, they said, well, this is an opposition research, this is collusion. And now all of a sudden they're caught, they're cut. They had paid the Russians, basically, the DFC and the Hillary campaign had paid Christopher Stiel. Here's that money to pay members of the FSB. We know that Christopher Stiel used current members of the FSB, which is the Russian secret Agency Clintestine Agency, and he also paid for her at this agent. And now all the sudden it's opposition research. Well, I mean, but they also in Victoria they lied for a year. They said, I don't we don't know, we don't know, we don't know. And it's only because of investigation pressure from Sarah John Solomon, pressure on on my show and pressure from people like you that finally now people had to admit. She has had to admit, oh yeah, we funded that. But it's not collusion in this case, even though it's bought and paid for by Hillary and the DNC that she's running now. In this case, it's only opposition and research that turned out to be nothing but salacious lies that were regurgitated and repeated in an effort, just like she stole the primary and rigged the primary. To use Donna Brazil's words, she was trying to influence the American people in the general election, and as the fix was in with James Comey, as the exonerates are before an investigation, as the fix was in on the tarmac when Loretta mitt Lynch meets with Bill Clinton, you know, a lot of fixes is in the Clinton world, so huge in GPS is an orphan. I'm really sad to say. And if the Republicans in Congress we're doing their job, and I hope they do. I hope they know and just haven't told us yet. But it cries out Sean for a special counsel. This, this should be gotten to the bottom of immediately, because this is criminal activity afoot collusion, and I know I haven't found that crime yet, but this is um misuse of campaign funding. By the way, I'm a lawyer, and I can tell you I wouldn't have made those expenditures for millions of dollars if I don't make expenditures over a thousand dollars without conferring with my client and telling my client exactly what it's going for exactly. All right, where are we? I think this is all now coming to a head. And what's fascinating if you really pay attention, because there are a lot of lies told since Donna Brazil came out, and actually the intercept Glenn Greenwald actually had four specific lies that he picked up on, which really became the narrative. The talking point. One, the Clinton d n C agreement cited by Brazil only applied to the general election, not the primary. That's a lie. Sanders signed the same agreement with the d n C that Clinton did. Oh, that's a lie. Brazil stupidly thought she could unilaterally remove Clinton as the nominee. That's a lie. Evidence has emerged proving that the content of Wiki League's documents and emails were doctored. Sorry that's a lie to Sarah, Yes, I mean it's it appears to be one lie after another. Briton the doctor are starting to connect people are there's evidence surfacing that needs to be investigated. Let me just go back to Fusion GPS because this is so important. We know that next week Conston is supposed to be testified. You're gonna promove his subpoena next week on Tuesday when he goes to testify before the House panel. And they're older, and that's totally separate from the documents that they're still seeking. The bank records that apparently will show that Fusion PS possibly has journalists on their payroll and other people on their payroll, and we need to know who those people were. Another thing that service that is completely concerning is this connection to this Russian lawyer. This has come back to haunt them because Natalia Belaya, we know, met with Glenn Simpson before she even went to meet with Don j Here. This is this is part of this pattern of behavior. We also know that they were involved in possibly and allegedly lobbying against the Magnitski Act, which punished Russian That was basically they were working for the Kremlin. So when you look at all of these dots, you've got to say to yourself, who was colluding with you? If you're looking at evidence flat on its face, it looked like the Democrats had money, more connection to the Kremlin and to the Russian fusion GPS than anyone at all had in the truck campaign. And this is what to be investigated on victorious, right, a special counsel. I have been talking to people. I was up on the hill today. This is something that they are discussing. They think that it's imperative that there be a special counsel to investigate this, not only this, but uranium one and many other issues. And we also, you know, shy, it's like we almost forgot about annasking, right. No, it's almost like there's so many stories out there that we can't even remember what has been done. Just in this past year. There is still an ongoing investigation into the Weeks leaks that came out that were completely illegal and the enmasking of Americans, which is a huge violation of Fourth Amendment rights. And we know right now that this is something not only that the Senate Intelligence Committee is looking into that the House Intelligence Committee, and they are not backting down from this. There's a long and hard investigation, and I believe there's also an investigation ongoing in the d o J. Now we still have to formally confirm that, but according to sources that I've spoken with, there's a number of investigations only on right now, both in the intellige I don't want to end. Well, that go ahead, Victoria. No, I'm concerned because Susian Gps, as a lawyer, came out and said, well, finally we've reached an agreement with with the House, and we we get to preserve our privileges. And I'm very concerned about that. First of all, there's a crime fraud exception for a privilege. If the people are participating, if the lawyers and the and the participants are in a in a crime, you can't assert the privilege. It's gone. So why are they getting their privileges preserved? All right, stay right there, We'll take a break. We'll come back more with Sarah Carter, investigative journalists, and Victoria Tunsing is the attorney for the FBI informant in the Uranium one case. The House of cards is crumbling right as we continue. Sarah Carter and Victoria Tunsing and we're talking about the d o J. One of the things I think, Victoria I have found so frustrating in all of this is we've heard Russia Trump, Russia, Russia collusion, collusion. Now we know Hillary paid for phony, sallacious Russian propaganda and lies during the campaign, but she doesn't call that she lied for a year. And then now, oh, that's not collusion. That is just ap research that came directly from Russia and Russian operatives that she paid for. And you know, I'm I'm watching the Department of Justice. I see that Comey got what he wanted. He got a special counsel by leaking through his friends of the New York Times. And you've got Uranium one, You've got the email server scandal, You've got literally you know, Robb, they robbed the primary. And why anyone would ever give up of our uranium when in fact we have to import uranium made no sense. And I see no special counsel here. That frustrates me. Well, I'm very frustrated. Sarah and I have been calling for this first for several weeks, ever since the Uranian one stories came out, with Sarah and John Solomon, I'll tell you what. This latest information about Usian GPS meeting with the Russian lawyer before and after the meeting with Donald Trump, of course makes all of us consider whether it was a setup. But this is set up so that they because I if I recall the somebody knew about this meeting, and people knew to ask for any emails regarding this meeting. So it was it was like it was out there, in other words, sort of deep state leakersh type of thing, right, and and and it. But isn't it odd, Victoria that that that that Fusion GPS meets with the Russian lawyer ahead of time before meeting Don Jr. And meets after Don Junior. Doesn't that sound like a set up to you? Sounds like a set up to me, I'm That's what I'm saying. It sounds like a set up. And then they linked it to get get it out there, to make fast the meeting. That was the quote unquote collusion, which is not a crime, Which is not even a crime. Good point. What is the latest with the uranium one, Sarah? Because it to me, you know, the more I learned about it, the more you see, it never made sense to give away one percent of America's uranium. But what's even more nonsensical to me is that we know Robert Mueller, then FBI director, and O nine and are colder than the head of the Department of Justice as the attorney general. They knew about bribery, extortion, kickbacks, money laundering, and racketeering, and the Vladimir Putin was trying to get into the uranium market and they did nothing. They allowed that deal to go through. Anyway, how is that possible, Well, they allowed a deal to go through that Vladimir Putin was adamant about. I mean, he had been adamant about attaining uranium globally, I mean and penetrating the US market I mean for years, holding the way back in the when he was in Kazakhstan with the uranium mining there. So that is something that is incredible. Not only are we talking about the same players right Tony, we're talking about Mulla, Rod Rosenstein by Andrew McKay. These are all the same people that were actually aware of this corruption within the Russian uranium industry, within their nuclear arm within their nuclear agencies, and they said nothing. So where do you go from here? I mean, I think and I know and I know that Victoria will agree with me on this. This is chess. What at the tip of the mountain here, that's the top of the mountain. There is so much more information that are going to be made public. There is so much more information that apparently is going to be classified and be dealt with in a classified setting. That's going to reveal a lot more answers. And at this point in time, we're calling the mountain top special counsel. Last question for Victoria, and I gotta run. Will your client the evidence that he has, the documents, his own experience with as an FBI informant, the emails, the tape recordings. Will this blow this case wide open in your opinion? Well, John, I think the case is blown wide open right now. There's a question. I agree. And all the quote was, you know, was Clinton's pocket. He's just going to put He's going to put meat on it and say here, here it is. It's a solid cake. Well, it's stunned the American people. Well, if if you're not stunned by the sale of Uranian, it's it's unbelievable. All right, Thank you both. You guys are doing an incredible job. All right, Hannity, Tonight, nine Eastern, you do not want to miss. We have two important monologues tonight, Number one allegations and Judge more hit with sexual accusations from thirty eight years ago. We'll have the details, we'll have all the commentary, examine every angle of it. Also, I have a special message for Senator Mitch McConnell and the Senate tonight in Congress tonight that if they don't get their act together, well you'll have to tune in at nine. That's all coming up, Hannity, Fox News. Thanks for being with us, See you tonight at nine. Back here tomorrow. Thanks for being with us.