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I remember for a long time I had two hundred dollars an old Stone bank in Warren, Rhode Island. That's all I had. That was it. It's been all my money on college. Didn't have anymore, and I was living paycheck to paycheck. So the sooner this gets done, they get their money, They pay their mortgages, their rents, there car payments, and get their groceries and everything else. That they need to tweet in between. You know, Democrats, though they've got they bear a huge responsibility in this. They all supported this policy when Barack Obama was president. Barack Obama sounded like Donald Trump, so did Chucky Schumer, so did Hillary Clinton, and so did Joe Biden, and so did all these other hypocrites out there. And so the real reason they're not going along with this is because Donald Trump will get the job done. It's sort of like all the Republicans when they voted to repeal them replace Obamacare, knowing it's never gonna be law. You know, those show votes, as we called them at the time. It's the same thing here. Those were all show votes by Democrats to act like they really supported border security. But now that it means something, they're not going anywhere near it, and nor did they want in any way, shape, matter or form, any political success of the president. You know, one other thing I do know, and I do understand. By the way, is this on all right? Could we pull out all the plugs and turn that away from me? You're kidding me. I had no idea. It's here unbelievable. Anyway, All the Democrats in the media are saying that it's a horrible, horrible, and it's it's so inconvenient and so unnecessary, and it creates anxiety for so many people. I think that's going to be handled in pretty short order for those that are furloughed. But all the men and women in ICE, all the border patrol agents think about this. It all need to find new careers if the Democratic Party had their way, because before the twenty eighteen midterms, they wanted to abolish and some today Acasio Cortez wants to abolish ICE and the things that are being said. You know when they say manufactured crisis, Okay, that's a great term. When you watch and I hope you will watch tonight, Hannity, well you're gonna meet families that lost loved ones that were killed by illegal immigrants, including the police officer, a police officers seeing out in California. And you're gonna meet the parents of Pierce Corkrant they lost their twenty two year old son in Knoxville, Tennessee. And you're gonna meet other parents. You know, I don't think it's a manufactured crisis in their lives. You know, we found an interesting statistic because and maybe I'm just thinking the numbers that we have been given were about three hundred overdose deaths a week, when as it relates to heroin h there is a Center for Disease Control study that shows it's well well over nine hundred a week in terms of opioid heroin deaths that take place. Ninety percent of that, of course coming across our southern border, which is a big deal. How many of you saw Jim Acosta. I mean, it's the greatest moment in the history of television. Jim acostas in McCallum, Texas, and this is you know, it takes us tweet tweets it out. I guess he's standing next to a barrier wall, you know, and he goes, I'm here the wall. That's right, and there's nothing wrong. It's all fine. There's nobody here. And here are some of the steel slats that the President's been talking about right here, as you can see, yes, you can't see through these slats to the other side of the US Mexico border. But as we're walking along here, we're not seeing any kind of imminent danger. There are no migrants trying to rush toward this fence. Here in the McCallan, Texas area. As a matter of fact, there are some other businesses behind me along this highway. There's a gas station, burger king, and so on. But no sign of the now emergency that president who has been talking about. As a matter of fact, it's pretty tranquil down here is seeing it. I mean the president. The President literally tweeted out a cost that that's our point. If you build the barrier, you're not going to have the trouble. Now, there is a report out now that says a new migrant caravan, larger than the first one, is now forming in Honduras yet again and plans to leave next week. Now where we are in all of this is the Trump administration is going to make a decision at some point. How is it that they're going to approach getting the money? And there's different schools of thought. Lindsey Graham says the President should declare a national emergency now there is the precedence for it. There will be a court fight that would ensue. The likelihood of judge shopping would be real. They would probably send it out to you know, California, Oregon and guarantee that they get a liberal judge and it gets the appeal would go to the ninth Circuit and then it would make of itself. Although you can't expedite all of that, and it could be done faster than people think could work its way through the courts in a shorter period of time. You know, I can tell you seeing this everywhere here. You know we have Long Island has a massive MS third teen problem, and many of the members of this game MS thirteen oh Long Island are illegal immigrants. Fox had a report that there was three suspects arrested following a bat and knife attack outside of a Burger King restaurant and by the way, a pretty well known area in New York on Long Island that I used to live. Anyway, goes on to say that two of the three were previously held by Homeland Security but were ordered released by federal judges. That's why judge ships matter anyway. One of them is twenty year old Nobel A Montize Zuniga, and you have Romone Aravola Lopez nineteen and another one, Oscar Canalius Molina, seventeen, facing second degree assault charges related to a brawl outside of a Burger King in Huntington Station has all happened Wednesday of this week. All three entered the US illegally as unaccompanied miners. Well, it's not clear what the groups were fighting out. One thing is clear. Everyone arrested are confirmed members of MS thirteen. According to the Suffolk County Police Commissioner, all three defendants were previously confirmed MS thirteen gang members. And it goes on to say that thereafter they were detained by the US Department of Homeland Securities, Immigration, Customs, and Enforcement, and then they were released from custody by a federal District County court judge. By the way, why don't we ever give out the names of these judges that put us in harm's way all the time they're in the country illegally. It was just sort of like the idiocy of catch and release. Yeah, come back and come to court in about a month and a half. Your court date is two months from now. Oh, nobody shows up. Why would they anyway, It goes on to say that these agents had wanted to travel to New York live with their mother, blah blah blah, and you know it's and this is hours before the President traveled to the southern border yesterday, where I was I think for the fourteenth time. Most of these people I know in my business, media, TV, radio, they don't ever go to the border. They've not seen the things that I have had the opportunity to see. Where we were in McCallum, Texas yesterday, and I've been all the way from the Rio Grand all across the border to San Diego. But you can walk across. On one side is Mexico. The other side, if you make it across, that's the United States. You could. And it's so shallow you can walk across it. And if you can't do it in a minute or less, that means you're really slow. You could have a cane and walk across in about a minute. I mean, blad that mister Marathon you know runner over there probably do it in twenty seconds, you know. Newsday had a report out today. In twenty seventeen, Long Island, New York, nearly forty percent of all homicides committed by MS thirteen gang members forty percent. Twenty seventeen, MS thirteen was responsible for fifty percent of homicides in Nassau count which is the county I was born in where I lived a big part of my life. Suffolk County twenty seven percent. Eight of the fifteen homicides in Nassau County believed to be victims of MS thirteen violence. And it's gotten to the point that they even at the Long Island Railroad, they're just shutting down crossings because that's where some of the gang members hang out. We wantn't you arrest them? Maybe that would solve the problem. Anyway, the Democratic wall is beginning to crack. I don't have a strong feeling either way. I know the President has the statutory legitimacy to declare a national emergency. That's not even in question, and he certainly has, as commander in chief, the constitutional authority to do this, and it's just a matter of which way he decides to go. Now, the administration is now laying the groundwork to declare a national emergency to build the wall. Fox News had reported that the President set those wheel in motion to fund alternatives or finding alternative ways to fund the wall. That means Nancy and Chuck can go pound sand and the White House has directed the Army Corps of Engineers to look at possible ways of funding the Border of Security. Sarah Sanders told Fox News last night as ongoing partial federal government shutdown over money for the border wall is less than two days away from becoming the longest in our nation's history. By the way, good things happened when New Gingrich had to shut down and fight with Bill Clinton. Anyway, the White House has directed the Corps of Engineers to examine the February twenty eighteen Emergencies Supplemental Budget, which included disaster relief of California, Florida, Texas, Puerto Rico, among other states, to see what unsped funds could then be used to use for the border wall. Apparently have thirteen point nine billion dollars available. If you're gonna do it, let's get the whole thing done, and let's do it right. The numbers I found from the CDC are interesting because we had been sighting three hundred deaths in America a week as the number, but the Center for Disease Control CDC dot gov has different numbers about drug overdose deaths, and from nineteen ninety nine to twenty seventeen, more than seven hundred thousand people have died from a drug overdose. Seven hundred thousand, around sixty eight percent of the more than seventy thousand, two hundred drug overdose deaths in twenty seventeen involved in opioid. You know, look at states like New Hampshire and Maine, in Ohio and Michigan and midwestern states. They are really I mean, it's like a death of day in some of these states and some of these towns. There was one report that per capita there was a city in Ohio prescribed opioids meaning like oxycotton is like six hundred per person. And then when they can't get the pills anymore, then they go by heroin, and that heroin, more now than ever before, is being laced with fentenyl and Fentnol's guaranteed to kill you anyway. They said, on average, one hundred and thirty Americans die every day, according to the CDC from an opioid overdose. That's a lot of Americans. And the crime statistics that we have last year, we have them available twenty sixteen. Illegal immigrants accounted for thirteen percent of all non immigration related federal sentences in fiscal year twenty sixteen. But yet they're three point five percent of the population. I mean, these numbers are staggering, So Lindsay Graham is calling for the President to declare a national emergency and just build the wall. We'll get to that. Support on Capitol Hill to do this with the Republicans is building as well. Eighty eight percent of Americans disagree with Chuck and Nancy and they do think there is a crisis our border. Even the New York Times legal experts are saying that Trump can use Pentagon funds to build the wall. Wall Street Journal says the Pentagon has thirteen billion also available to build the wall, and the Pentagon saying that they're ready to help Trump build the wall. So it's all set in motion. We have the National Emergencies Act of nineteen seventy six that allows the president, and it's been used many times before to trigger emergency powers conferred on him by Congress. This is a Congressional Act that deferred so as a statutory authority as well as the constitutional authority. And it will get to all of this and a much much more. Eight hundred nine one sean toll free telephone number. We have a special edition of Hannity Tonight, Manufacture Crisis Really A way do you meet the families that lost loved ones? Because of illegal immigrants. And I'd love to see Nancy and Chuck sit down with them and tell them to their face it's a manufactured crisis. All these idiotic news reporters are so called newspeople that have been towing the Democratic Party talking point. Maybe they'll look them in the eye. Oh sorry, you lost your son. This is just a manufactured crisis. It's cold, it is heartless, and it is rooted in nothing but politics. There's no truth to what they say. All you have to do is open your eyes. One thing that is not political, it's smoking. That's about people, and there are thirty four million Americans. Now that's smoke, But for many there's not been a clear alternative. Jewel for me, has been a game changer. I watch people all the time, they go outside in the middle of the freezing winner just to have their smoke. You don't have to do that anymore because of Jewel. Now people don't have to worry about the smell on your hands. Jewel was specifically designed by smokers, forced smokers to be a satisfying alternative. It's a clean technology. Jewel has no ash, no odor, no mess. 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When the shutdown happened Bill Clinton and new Ingrich, we actually got a lot of good things done in the end of that one. Anyway, The President says he'll sign a bill giving federal workers back pay when the down is over. That's breaking news. He said he's not going to declare the national emergency right now, and the President made those comments just moments ago. Yeah, the messages that I appreciate their service to the country. They are incredible people for federal employees that we're talking about, But many of them agree with what I'm saying and what the people in this room who are experts are saying. They don't want to see people killed because we can't do a simple border structure, and I appreciate their incredible support we have. Yesterday, I was watching this morning and reading this morning that so many people are saying the President is doing what's right, and even though it's affecting us short term temporarily. As you know, a bill was just passed which I will sign in Congress making sure that everybody's going to be paid immediately upon when this is over. But I just really appreciate the fact that they have handled it so incredibly well, and many of them agree with what we're doing. We have no choice. Steve, go ahead, twenty four hours ago, you probably going to declare a nationally so I said I could do it, but well, I'll tell you why. It's the easy way out. But Congress should do this. This is too simple, it's too basic, and Congress should do this if they can't do it, If at some point they just can't do it, this is a fifteen minute meeting. If they can't do it, I will declare a national emergency. I have the absolute right to do it. It says as clear as you can now what will happen. I'll be sued, it will be brought to the Ninth Circuit, and maybe even though the wording is unambiguous, just like we're the travel ban, It'll be appealed to the Ninth Circuit and we'll probably lose there too, and then hopefully we'll win in the Supreme Court. But that's what happens. You can take the most perfectly word a document, as we have in this case, and they'll always bring it to the Ninth Circuit and then you never know what's going to come out of the Ninth Circuit, and you never know what's going to come out on appeal. But fortunately we have a Supreme Court that's treated us very fairly. So I'd rather not do it because this is something that Congress should easily do. This is something that the Democrats should do, and I don't want to give an easy way out of something as simple as this. Not only simple, it's easy, and it's going to sue pure. You know, we have a country that is under siege. You could actually you know a lot of people don't like the word invasion. We have a country that's being invaded by criminals and by drugs, and we're going to stop it. So I want the Democrats to come back to Washington and vote. Thank you very much, All right. That's the President being very adamant with reporters and saying, well, if I have to, I'll do it, but it's gonna take the buddy's pushing the Democrats to do their job. The very same policies they supported for years, they say, but now that it means something, It's just like Republicans voting for repeal and replace. They're all four at sixty five times when it doesn't mean anything and it's never gonna pass. Then they got an opportunity when it would have passed. Oh I'm not sure now, or in twenty fifteen when you get seven Republicans in the Senate that vote for a straight up repeal of Obamacare, but they knew it was never gonna matter because Obama is never going to sign that, so they can vote for it. Then they can go back to the districts and tell people or their states and I voted to repeal Obamacare. So many of these politicians are so phony. You know. One thing you gotta like with this president is that he likes to fight for the promises he made and he's doing it. And I was there yesterday with him and did the interview. We'll air some of that interview coming up later in the program today. But and I'm listening all these border patrol leaders in this particular sector right where the Rio grand is and it's just a hop, skip at a jump, and you're in America with no barrier whatsoever. And I'm talking to these border patrol agents. I literally did the interview with the President standing up in front of literally mounds of drugs that they had confiscated this week. I told you, I've been to those drug warehouses. It's unbelievable. Now, this is an interesting fact found by ABC of old people. They actually did some work they found. According to the Federal Register, fifty eight national emergencies have been declared since the National Emergencies Act of nineteen seventy six, which allows a president to trigger the emergency powers conferred on them by Congress. And it's been in place now in various forms for more than like one hundred and fifty years. But anyway, fifty eight national emergencies have been declared since the National Emergency Act, the latest act. But we've had this going back, you know, before Lincoln was president, for crying out well, and thirty one of them are still in operation today. Continued today they're annually renewed and they're still in effect. You know, national emergency with respect to Iran, Well, that was Jimmy Carter when he was president. We can go back that far. Somebody used a lot of this was Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton used it on a number of occasions. George W. Bush did it on a number of occasions. Barack Obama did it, and a number of occasions, including I think one with Columbia because of the trafficking of drugs into the country. So there's no doubt about the statutory right of the president to do so or the constitutional right to do so. He's the commander in chief. First role as commander in chief is to protect the homeland. And I don't care what term you want to use, but people that keep entering our country illegally, that are pulling on our infrastructure in terms of our healthcare and our education and our criminal justice system. The four hundred and seventy court cases that have been set precedence as it relates to the nineteen seventy six Act, so the president can use those legal tools available available to him. And it's not a legislady he's saying, okay, with all the drugs coming into the country with all the human trafficking involved, with all the deaths that have taken place, and you're going to meet many of these angel moms and adds tonight. You know, if you watch Tannity tonight and you see these parents that lost their kids and they tell their stories, ask yourself, does that sound like a manufactured crisis to you? Or if you believe the you know, the Centers for Disease Controlled number nine hundred opioid deaths a week a week, or you believe the Department of Homeland Security three hundred one thing that is happening. We're beginning to see the Democrats are beginning to get nervous, and some Democratic lawmakers are beginning to crack on their opposition to the wall, and apparently it's getting a little difficult in caucus sessions. One Democrat calling Peterson in Minnesota Democrats says he got sixty seven calls supporting the wall, five against. They are concerned about the trade situation, but from what I can tell, they're still hanging with the president. Today. We got sixty seven calls from building the wall and five agains. Challenge to me, like he's still pretty popular. Two O two, two, two, four thirty one twenty one. If you want to call you a member of Congress, you want to call your senator, you gonna let them know how you feel about all of this. You know all the polls that have come out. There's another new poll that chows the American people do, in fact, believe there is a crisis at the border. Morning Console poll seventy nine percent of voters believe there is a crisis and a problem at our southern border. Well, I mean, how could you not think so? You know, I don't know anybody that has not been impacted by addiction. I mean in some way. I mean, you know a neighbor that's addicted. You have a friend whose son or daughters addicted. You have a friend whose husband or wife is addicted. You have a close family member that's addicted. Everybody's dealing with us, and these drugs are flooding into the country. You know, the human trapp picking. You hear these stories about young women from Central America, young women from Mexico trafficked up to the United States for to be prostitutes, ruining and destroying the lives of these young women, absolutely destroying them. Pat Buchanon thinks the president should just declare the national emergency. New Gingrich says he should wait, and the newt had the longest shutdown ever that's about to be broken. One thing that keeps coming up is, you know the media is claiming, well, I thought you said Mexico was gonna pay for the wall. And I played this before because when he was then candidate Donald Trump, I asked him specifically. I said, well, you don't think that he's gonna Mexico is gonna write a check. Do you think Mexico is gonna actually hand over the funds so you can build the wall? And he said no, not at all. Now they're saying they're not gonna pay for it. They will pay for the world. We're gonna build the world. We're gonna pay for the wall. We're going to stop businesses from leaving our country, and we are. They are being and they are being drained out of our country, our jobs, our money, our base, and our factories. We are we're going to stop it. You don't expect he's going to write a check. But what you're saying is that they will have to make concession. There's many different ways. So in other words, you don't expect Mexico to, says frump. Here's a check for tens not feasible. It wouldn't look good. So you think the deals that you make were more than compensate for the wall, even if we tax him. We may tax him, Look, it doesn't make any difference. Look we lose a tremendous amount of money, or do we have a trade deficit with Mexico fifty eight billion dollars year? People don't know that the wall's going to cost ten billion dollars. All right, so there you go. But the meeting keeps saying, well, where's Mexico paying for the wall? Well, he just did a new trade deal with Mexico. That's better for the American people. There you go, more profits. There's your wall. You know, it's interesting that Dailey Caller picked up on something. I thought it was pretty funny. If walls don't work, how come Democrats built a wall to protect their convention center in twenty sixteen? And I know because I've been to all these presidential you know, these conventions, the Democratic Party conventions. There is another thing. You can't get into the Democratic Party convention unless you have a picture id Democrats don't want picture IDs when you're voting, but if you want to get into their convention, you better have a pictured id or else you're not gonna get in anyway. Protesters against the Democratic Party's nomination of Hillary Clinton were met with tall fencing around the perimeter of Wells Fargo Center in Philadelphia during July of twenty sixteen. Many of the protesters who gathered outside of the barrier were supported by were supporters of independent Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders. Some Democrats felt like they were cheated. They were and seeing the extensive security constructed by the DNC, they don't want to hear what we have to say, and that's why we are out here daily. Oh it's interesting, you'd even picturized d's to get in. You got to walk around defence, and you have to go through security, and if your last name is Hannity, it takes twice as long. They don't like to let me into those conventions, but unfortunately they don't have any choice. We see what's happening with our media. I mean, you have one station saying this morning that CNN called them the station's KUSI and CNN fake News called their newsroom asking if one of their reporters could give them a local view on the debate surrounding the border wall and the government shutdown, and they offered. Dan Plan too has reported dozens of times from the border, including one story from twenty sixteen that was retweeted by former Speaker of the House Knew king Rich and posted on the Drudge Report. We believe CNN declined a report from KUSI because we informed them that most border patrol agents we've spoken to tell us the barrier does in fact work. That's another thing. Why didn't Chuck and Nancy get on Air Force one yesterday and go travel with the president. I've been down on the border fourteen times. It's not a single border agent I've met in all that time, and I met a lot of them. They're all great guys. They're all are willing to put their lives on the line for us, and they all say, yeah, when we build the wall, yeah, we basically eliminate all illegal immigration from that point. Puma County is one great example. They went from five miles of all the sixty four miles and guess what, ninety seven percent drop anyway, So we'll see what happens, but it looks like the President's going to hold out, let the Democrats do their job. If they don't, he has the option of the National Emergency, which clearly he is going to use if he has to, not his first choice. We'll see what happens. Hey, listen, So Kamala Harris, who's going to run for the Democrats? They're all trying to outdo themselves with the highest tax rate, which is not going to serve them well anyway. Carl Anderson twenty sixteen, leader of the Knights of Columbus. She starts asking questions of this guy, and were you are aware that the Knights of Columbus opposed a woman's right to choose when you join the organization? Were you are aware that they opposed marriage equality? What does that have to is a Catholic group? Were you were aware that it's an all male group? Yes? So stop holding the American people hostage. M stop manufacturing a crisis. This president just used the backdrop of the Oval Office to manufacture a crisis. This is a manufacturing crisis. No crisis exists, and anyone making the argument is most likely guilty of fear mongering and willfully misleading the American people. Locals will tell him on the border, even conservatives, is that there isn't a national security crisis. The notion that we have a crisis there security crisis is absolute nonsense. This is a manufactured crisis, and a crisis that manufactured by the Trump administration. This artificial crisis of the president isn't going to justify his appropriating money for a wall that Congress is unwilling to give. Is there a crisis at the border of the President said there's a humanitarian crisis at the border, is there absolutely not. We have a challenge, oh our humanitarian issues or challenges for us. The big scam of the whole address is that there's a crisis. There's not a crisis. Some question if there is a crisis at all, as the President has claimed, there is not a crisis at the border. It's a manufactured crisis for the president to get a political when the crisis can have, as we see now a very elastic definition. And he's determined to convince you there is a crisis at the border, even though an intelligence official tell sin and quote, no one is saying is a crisis except them. If you ever doubted in any way, by the way, our two Sean Hannity's show Gladial with Us are told for you telephone numbers eight hundred and nine for one Sean if you want to be a part of the program. If you ever had any doubt whatsoever that the Democratic Party is in complete alignment agreement with and to use a phrase in collusion with the media in this country, this is the greatest example. They all they couldn't even come up with a second word. They all use the same word, manufactured crisis. Now tonight on Hannity on the Fox News Channel, You're gonna meet a lot of moms and dads that lost their kids to illegal immigrants that killed them. You want to tell those parents that this is a manufactured crisis, or any of the three hundred families that get news that a loved one is now dead from a heroin overdose. Of the heroine coming into this country, coming across the southern border is outrageous and of course, a very different story back in twenty thirteen, where the Democrats sounded more like Donald Trump than Donald Trump sounds like Donald Trump. But because this would be his success getting something done, they can't allow that, which now leads us to the possibility that the president will have to declare a national emergency, get Pentagon funds, and get the wall up one way or the other. New King Ridge is with us, former Speaker of the House, how are you. I'm doing well, and I think what you're doing tonight is what the president should do for the whole country. I think they should invite every family who has lost a loved one to an illegal immigrant to come to Washington, to the White House, have a meeting, and then go Uplin Capitol Hill and confront directly these people who claim that the death of their loved one is manufacturing. I think nothing would shrink the Democratic Party faster than to confront the families who have a legitimate personal experience that the country's not secure and that in fact Americans have been killed, they have been raped, they have been robbed in some cases, they have been tortured by MS thirteen gang members, all of these people who are here illegally. Well, I mean, this is the point. Why do you think that they've taken on this tact that somehow and just look at the last two weeks. I mean, one of the families we're going to have on We're going to have a member of officers things families going to be on the show tonight, and another family mom and dad. On December twenty ninth last year. You know, just a few weeks ago, they lost their son, Pierce Corkrane. He was hit by an illegal immigrant that was apparently on drugs or drinking and driving on the wrong side of the road. He's dead. You know. Democrats thought it was a crisis when there was family separation, which had happened in the previous two administrations. They thought it was a crisis when our border patrol was be impelled with rocks and bottles, and to defend themselves they used tear gas. The media was screaming that quote, our ice officials are gassing children. They thought that was a crisis. Well, this is permanent separation. These are mothers and fathers that don't ever get to see their kids again. Well, look, I think there a couple of things going on. First of all, a large part of the Democratic Party cares more about the fate and people who are not legally here than they care about Americans. Will then, let's just be honest, they're bias. If you're an American citizen, why should they worry about you? You're not their constituency. You're not who they're emotionally attached to. They're more concerned about the treatment of a six year old or a nine year old at the border than they are about the death of an American from an illegal immigrance. And I think that's just a deep bias of the Democratic Party that has grown stronger over the last thirty years. I think second, you have a lot of Democrats who are for open borders. The new governor of California who represents sort of a California Crazy ideology. It's called for not just a sanctuary state, but for California do the sanctuary state with free medical care for everyone, specifically including illegal eleigrants. So Governor Newsom is going to make California the magnets of the world. If you know, if you need medical care, go to California, give it to you for free. Although also you can go to New York City and I would I would like to remind everybody that, yeah, Gavin Newsom has promised free healthcare for everybody, including illegal immigrants. If you need healthcare, you know, all you really need is to get in your car or jump on an airplane and go out. Gavin Newsom said, it's going to be free, so why not do it? And I think, but I think it's the same open borders, you know, after all, wise, why should we think being American is special? And I think it's a deep, deep behavior now, almost an illness. And the Democratic Party and then the other part of the Democratic Party, of course, just hates Trump and that they don't want Trump to have a victory under any circumstance. And so you end up with a sort of a bitter end opposition, as when the President said to Speaker Pelosi, if we will reopen the government and that do everything you want, could we in the next thirty days solve the problem with the boarder And she said no, And then he said, well, that's why are in me? Why are we meeting? I'm out of here? And he was right. I mean, if their attitude is that there is nothing they're going to do that fits the commanders He's interests now, I will say, I believe it will be a mistake for him to use his executive power. I think this is an important moment in history, and I wrote my newsletter about this today. He should focus on winning this the country. I'm seeing Democrat after Democrat begin to weaken, and if he stays at it, you're president going to see Hio Democrats split that in fact, they're going to be able to pass them. Well, here's what's happening that the same media that backs up the Democrats with the manufactured crisis line, the same media now is is talking about this poor family has to sell their welding equipment, and this family is making cheesecakes just so they could pay their rent and they're selling the cheesecakes to neighbors door to door. And you know it is and I feel sorry I've listened. At one point in my life I lived, you know, pretty darn I was paycheck to paycheck for many years actually in my adult life. I know it's not fun when you don't have a lot of money and savings. And for a lot of these families, they don't have that money and it is inconvenient they will get all of the money back in time. But this is what's being played up in the media. But they don't put on the parents that lost their kids, and they only want to push the one side of the argument. But also, if you feel sympathy for government employees who are not going to be paid for several weeks, although as you pointed out, the Senate already passed to go and the guarantees they will get all the money when when this is over, they'll get paid to the the back pay. But if you feel sympathy, call Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi. I mean, let's be clear about this. It's in their power for a relatively small amount of money out of the total federal budget. It's in their power to work out in agreement with the commander in chief and have the government reopened tomorrow. So you know, this is not a one sided thing, and I think that we have to have the courage to santough. I noticed that there's a great story out today that CNN was trying to find a local station in San Diego that would reconfirm its bias that walls don't matter, and they couldn't find one because all the states local stations in San Diego were saying, of course they matter, and they had a ninety something reduction. And then yet another station and yet another station that actually tried to paint the president alter his look to make it more orange. I mean, this fair media, and you know I've never seen it this to this extent whereds this obvious and this transparent. But when they came out and we were kind of watching the SNL opening skit with Nancy and Chuck and it was a really bad open and I'm sitting there watching this train wreck, and they both used the word manufactured crisis, and that then was picked up by everybody in the in the media. I've never seen the alliance this tight where it is the same verbiage, it is the same phrase, the exact same arguments, They're the same, They're the same people. Supposed to be clear, the news media is the Democratic Party that sound like we were a quick kidding ourselves. They're not the news media. There the liberal propaganda alarm of the Democratic Plarty. I mean the New York side, the CBS News or CNN. They don't exist as news organizations their propaganda instruments. Let me ask you this. You all right, so you want the president to stay strong and keep the government shutdown, the partial government shutdown, which represents about twenty five percent of the workforce for the government. All right, then all these stories furloughed, pain, misery, it's all going to be put on Donald Trump's lap, which is their emotional appeal, ignoring the families that are permanently separated and lost loved ones because of illegal immigration. So but the point is, the President seems to be laying the groundwork to declare a national emergency. Why would you why would you not go along with that strategy when it is according to every legal expert that matters that I've consulted, they all agree it's a slam dunk. Many Democrats agree it's a slam dunk. Okay, it's a slam dunk. You could have done it three months ago. And my question is really simple. We now have a genuine crisis of government. We have a vision between the new Democratic House in the presidented States. And the truth is that the truck's humor now is just you know, he's detail on Nancy Pelosi's machine. He's trying. He's tiding along behind Pelosi when she's leading away. Sooner or later, the President's going to have to wun a collision with the Democratic House. The sooner he does it, the better. If he side steps this fight right now and is clever and uses you know, a nice legal device, we're still going from right back to a collision. If on the other hand, he can raise the anti enough that marginal Democrats to win and say I can't take the heat. We're going to have to solve this. At some point. He will force the Democrats to start to learn that a president of the United States who has the power of the Viso ken in facts, imposed very substantial costs on a left wing radical House of Representatives. But I think for him to be clever right now, and he be legally able to do it, I just think that in the long term government of the United States, it's not a good solution, and we'll lead the Democratic House to cut the budget of whatever institution he gets money out of. All right, stay right there, that's their answer. We continue. Former Speaker of the House, new King Rich is with us eight hundred and nine for one seawn. If you want to be a part of the program. Jay Secular, the President's attorney, is going to check in with us today about the legality of declaring a national emergency and we'll talk to a Texas representatives. Yeah, it's an op ed in the Federalists about the need for the border wall. I was there yesterday. You can walk across the Rio Grand It'll take you a minute. One minute, you can walk right across and you'll barely get your sneakers wet in some areas. Right as we continue with the former Speaker of the House, New King Rich, you're urging the president to just stand strong. I think Mitch McConnell's hanging in there pretty strong. I know that I've interviewed Lindsey Graham and Kevin McCarthy. The House is strong, but I can see maybe a few Senators Lisa Murkowski, met Romney among them, you know, start peeling away. And I'm sure the Democrats are working very hard on that part so well. First, first of all, McConnell has said he won't bring up a bill the president's not going to sign. So as long as McConnell keeps his word, and he's up for re election in two twenty, and he knows that the most popular person in the Republican Party is President Donald Trump. So one, the Senate is a blocking place to start with. Two, the president's got the power of a veto. Now, to to override a presidential veto of this issue is impossible. You couldn't do it in the House, you couldn't do it in the Senate. It takes two thirds plus one. They'll never get that margin. So the president's a musician to try to teach the country a lesson, which is on this issue, the Congress has to negotiate and the Democrats have to learn to negotiate. And that's why I'm very skeptical of sidestepping this fleet. I think they need to turn up the heat. They need to make have you have you talked to the president about this? Have you told the President that no? You justly. I only realized today how real this is getting. And I'm going to call him and talk to them about it, because I do think it would be a mistake to go down that road. I think you should call him. I think I think he's winning, and I think that he needs to recognize and when people like you are a big part of this. As the country looks at families who have had people killed by illegal immigrants, the whole manufactured line looks cynical and sick, and I think people begin to realize that these are people who are really pretty despicable to describe the killing of Americans as something which is manufactured, when in fact is the tragic loss of life. All Right, New King Ridge, former Speaker of the House. Thanks for being one of us eight hundred nine for one Seawan toll free telephone number was down in Texas yesterday at the Rio Grand. When we come back, Representative Chip Roy from Texas, you put an op ed in the Federalists about the need for the order wall immigration reform. Remember I sat through a security briefing down in Texas. Six hundred and forty two thousand Texans victims of crime in a seven year period. Well, we'll play that tape when we get back. Criminal as have been responsible about six hundred and forty two thousand offensive criminal offenses. You look up there in the top less sexual assault, there's close to eight thousand victims, six hundred and forty two thousand crimes two Texas. In Texas along yes, over two hundred thousand individuals criminal hands, creed reflective day, they were committed over six hundred and forty two thousand crimes. That's the cause of no security. This is the first president to come down here to stop in here in five years. I came down here in November twenty thirteen. During twenty fourteen we had the humanitarian crisis with undercompany children. I didn't have anybody from the White House come down here and show the support for the men and women the Board Patrols, CVP and DHS. Having the President come down here means an awful lot to argue. You hear the media, You hear the Democrats. They called us a manufactured crisis. Okay, what's your answer to that. So in twenty fourteen, we apprehended two hundred fifty six thousand people. We're on pace to apprehend over two hundred thousand people. Just yesterday I apprehended one hundred and thirty three people from different countries other than Central America and Mexico. Where from Pakistan, India, Romania, China, on and on and on. This isn't a magdive. Was yesterday just in this sector alone, four hundred and fifty people were apprehended total. We continue to see increases. We're averaging about six hundred and twenty a day, all right, that is ahead of the sector. Mister Ortiz that I met yesterday, him and all these guys, I got a lot of time before the President came. I spoke with a lot of ICE members and Border Patrol agents and people from all sorts of law enforcement. And this is their reality. And there I am literally among the Rio Grand in McCallum, Texas, and the water is not that deep. You could walk across and it would take you less than a minute. If you're an athlete like Blair, you could probably do it about thirty seconds. That's all it takes. And then you walk right up. There's nothing to stop you. You walk from Mexico into the United States. Nobody's there, nobody to stop you. If you had the barrier put up, well, then that would then be the we'd at least be able to detect you there and be trying to climb the barrier, pushed down the bear whatever you're trying to do. Well, that gives a law enforcement time to do their job, which is what all these guys were saying. This helps them do their job. And when they tried it in Yuma, when they tried it in San Diego, Yuma went from five miles of fencing of sixty four miles of fencing. Well, then illegal crossings dropped ninety seven percent. Anyway, Congressman Chip Roy of Texas is here. He had written an opbed in the Federalists about the need for the border wall and immigration reform. This is the reality of all these border states. The first bit of tape you heard was when I was down there with a security briefing with Governor Rick Perry at the time, and in a seven year period, six hundred and forty two thousand crimes were committed against Texans alone, including homicides and including as you heard, sexual assaults. Sean, thanks for having me on. I'm delighted that you were down at the border. I'm delighted that you were gone down before the Governor Perry. I used to work for Governor Perry, worked for Senator Cruz and Senator Cornyn. So a lot of the guys that you've seen down there in the border who know what's going on, those of us from Texas know that this crisis is real. It's been real for a long time. And the problem is we've got Democrats who want to play politics when we're trying to make sure that we're saving the lives of American citizens. You're in danger, like Jared Fargas, who was murdered last summer by an illegal immigrant by somebody who has captured, release, captured, released, and now his beautiful mother Laurie no longer has her son because of an illegal immigrant who took his life, and the little girls who's you know and I know today are going to get snatched up the cartels and thrown into the sex trafficking trade because we refuse to do our basic job as a sovereign nation and secure our border. And this is not new. Tom Cobram was on the floor of the Senate a decade ago talking about rape trees because of how bad it was along the border, and it's only gotten worse as we've empowered the cartels. And the President is right, and I'm glad that he's focused like a laser on building fencing, securing the border, and doing the things we need to do to get it right. The border patrol agents down there, like my friend Brandon and Hector Garza and the guys down there that are doing the hard work. They're wonderful people and they need the resources they need to do their jobs. So I'm glad you're shining a light on this. Why why do you think the Democrats that supported this in two thousand and six and two thousand and thirteen many of the same people and now against it, vehemently against them? What do you things happen? This is pure politics. This is pure blind hatred directed toward the president of United States, without regard to their duty as congress congressman and congresswoman representing their districts and representing this country. To secure the border. They're baring their head in the sand. And frankly, let's be fair, there's been a bit of a bipartisan bearing the head in the sand over the last ten years and ignoring the crisis of the border. You've pointed that out over the years, and I'm just glad now that we seem to have a unified party behind a president who's willing to stand up and do the right thing, and we're winning, Sean. I mean, we're seeing spamburger down in Richmond, and we're seeing some of our Democrat colleagues start to talk about how hard it is going back to their district and the folks saying, hey, we want to get this border secure. I've got border patrol agents calling me and they're worried about their pay, and I understand that. And they're telling me, look, stand strong and keep fighting to secure the border because it's time to fix it. And I'm glad the president's doing it. Does it matter if the president keeps the government shut down and fights this till the end that way, or if he declares the national emergency and that probably takes it into the courts. Does it matter to you which way he does it? Well, I personally think he ought to just keep holding the line. We ought to come together as a Congress and we ought to put pressure on Democrats to do this straight forwardly and fund the necessary border security that we need. We're talking about two hundred and thirty four miles of fencing, We're talking about immigration judges, we're talking about technology, we're talking about a humanitarian relief. This is money that we ought to spend and we ought to make the Democrats have to stand up and vote on it and do it. If the President has to go down the road of emergency declaration, we'll cross that bridge when we get there. I think that it is an emergency. I think that Democrats have authorized defense in the past. But I'd rather that we just keep doing the saying focus and doing our job, and the President ought to do that and draw attention to all of this, and so we know the longer we do this, the more people will pay attention and understand how dangerous Fentel is, how dangerous the cartels are, and that we shouldn't have the situation where a border troll agent is down there at eleven o'clock at night, alone with no radio signal, no cell signal, the cartels of operational control of the border, and he's sitting there knowing that he could be an endangered and he could do nothing to actually stop what's happening. We need to change that right now, and it's our duty to do it well. I think it could be done, and be done expeditiously and then put a lot Americans to work in the meantime. And I don't care if it's a wall, I don't care if it's you know, high tech fencing. I just we just need the barrier. I don't know if you've been to the Rio Grand area a lot, but you have. You been there many times. Whether I was working for Governor Perry, whether I was working for Senator Cruz, and then I was the first assistant Attorney General of the State of Texas. We litigated DAPPA in the courts and wanted to circuit. I've been down there meeting with Border Patrol and was last down there in August, and I'm actually going to go back down week after next, and those guys are on the front line. And if you go down there and you meet with border patrol as you have, you see what's actually happening, and you see how broken it is, and you I gotta tell all those guys are frustrated because they want to do their job, but it becomes an impossibility in terms of doing that job when you have all these obstacles and they're not giving you the help that they're asking for. And with the proven track record, Yuma is an exam ample. Also San Diego as an example. Parts of Texas have been an example. Where we built the wall, they stopped coming, no question, you know, and I know that in San Diego in the late nineteen eighties, before they put the triple layer fencing up along that fifty mile stretch, there were over six hundred thousand arrest a year. That numbers down to thirty thousand arrest. Fencing works. Is it perfect? No, no, No measure is going to be perfect. But fencing slows the tide allows us to focus the resources where we need to. You can still use border patrol agents, cameras, focus on points of entry and get operational control of the border. That's all we're asking for. That's what the border patrol agents want, and that's what Texans want. I can tell you on the front line it was a number one issue in my district in Texas twenty one. Lamar Smith has been a Stollard on immigration before me and happy to try to carry on his legacy and work with the President and try to get this done the right way. If your colleagues in the House, and you know, when you talk to them, obviously, Republicans seem united. Do you see any wobbling at all among Republicans or are they willing? You know, especially you're hearing every you know story about every furloughed employee who will they'll all get their back pay. I know it's inconvenient. I feel bad for them that it's inconvenient, but they'll all get back pay and the money that they would otherwise have had. Um. Do you think that which pressure is going to give in here? In your view? Well, what I'm seeing is a whole lot of pressure on Democrats to actually do their job to secure the border. Republicans seem united. They're saying the course, uh, they recognize how important it is to get this done right. I believe that we're going to continue to win this battle if we if we just take to the American people and why it matters, and you're exactly right. We're going to pay employees. I've deferred my pay until until we pay the employees and the border fill agents and others who are going about pay. And we should, but we should do it the right way. We should do it methodically. We should do our job. We should secure the border and uh and then take care of those that that we're relying on that pay when we get through it. So, um, we just how to stay the course. If we do so, we'll win this. But we can't back away. I mean, this is it. I mean, this is the future of our kids. They didn't even have the fentanyl in the room yesterday because they were worried it was too dangerous to have around on display when they have to display of other narcotics and heroin and other stuff because it's such a dangerous drug. Hey, listen, three if you take a grain of salt or a grain of sand and put three of them, they can kill a two hundred and fifty pound guy in seconds. Unbelievable. Yeah, all right, I got it's extraordinary. All right, thank you, Congressman. Congressman Chip Roy of Texas. Up close and personal. He sees what's going on. Quick break, we'll come back. We'll continue wide open phones as well as we get into our final hour Free for All. We'll be joined by Jay Sekulo. We'll talk about the legality of building the border fence and the judge shopping that inevitably would happen if the President declares a state of emergency. Hey, let's get to take some of our busy calls here at the top of the hour. Jay Secular, he is the chief counsel for the American Center for Law Injustice, counsel to the President. He'll weigh in on the legality of and the right which I've gone through in great detail in the course of the program today. If the President decides to declare a national emergency on this, let's say hi to Mike. Mike's in Ohio. Mike, how are you glad you called? I'd love to talking to you. Sean. I'll be real quick. I am the only compassive conservative left in my family, so I negotiate with my liberal brother and sister all the time. So I came up with an idea. I know it's crazy, but I think they would agree to. Good is what if we gave the Democrats the Kinsburg replacement with either Garland or somebody else that they would pick for Trump to get all his border wall. The number one slow down there as far as we know, she just had an operation, and you know we all should pray for her health and hope she's able to recover. Number one. Number two, you know, making deals where you hand out. We'll give the Democrats the Supreme Court. No, that's what elections are about. That was a big part of the election. And if the Democrats don't want to do their job, look, you're gonna meet all these angel moms and dads and families tonight that lost their loved ones. If they want to say that this is a manufactured crisis, and look the American people in the eye or the inconvenience of being furloughed and not getting your check today, I do have sympathy for people that have bills to pay and Democrats they bear a big part of the responsibility. They won't even show up and negotiate. President has invited everybody, he took his vacation away. He stood in Washington. Anti Pelosi was in Hawaii. I guess Maxie Waters was having fun and somewhere I don't know where, but you know, they have to come to the table. And if they're just gonna say no and obstruct, no and obstruct, and we keep seeing the drugs pouring into this country, the human trafficking element, and we see people dying at the hands of people that weren't vetted that come into this country. You know, let's have that debate. And if it takes a while, it's going to take a while. Let's go to Bob in Vegas. Bob, how are you glad you called? Either? Sean? I trained for the law enforcement before living and I'm furloughed and tomorrow missed my first paycheck. And I think there's blame to go around for both Democrats and Republicans. But what's most important to me is why sites doing this Trump? I believe once to save American lives. All the stats he puts out, DHS puts out, you know, the border patrol agents you've seen put out is true. I know that, and it will save lives. And I think the Democrats know it will save lives too, because they proved the border wall already, but now they won't. Why is that because they want to spike Trump. So it's Trump to me wants saved lives. They want to spike Trump even if it costs innocent American lives, and I have an issue with that. Well, let me first, I can sympathize as somebody who for years of my early adult life live paycheck to baycheck and had no money in the bank, or two hundred dollars in the bank, you know, at the Old Stone Bank in Warren, Rhode Island. So I fully completely sympathize and understand with those furloughed employees. The good news is both Republicans and Democrats are saying that they will get all this back pay. It represents about eight hundred thousand people, about twenty five percent of the federal workforce. I know it's inconvenient, I know it's hard. I know it's difficult, But it's even worse when you have hundreds of Americans dying every week because of the ninety percent of heroin coming across the border, or or those illegal immigrants that are killing our fellow Americans. And you'll meet them tonight on Hannity. We're bringing these families in they'll tell you their story about permanent separation. Democrats got all worked up about oh, well, the kids are being separated from mom and dad. We have permanent separation in these cases. But all right, Bob, thanks for what you do. I do hope you get your check soon. I hope the Democrats do what they said they we're going to do five years ago, not doing it now because they don't want to help Donald Trump. We'll continue coming up next our final news round up and information overload. Our the laws one hundred percent on my side. So if we can't make a deal with Congress, and we should be able to make a deal with Congress. If you look Democrats in Congress, especially the new ones coming in and starting to say, wait a minute, we can't win this battle with Trump because of the fact that it's just common sense. How can we say that a wall doesn't work? They show on helicopters empty fields. Are people just running through and you put a wall they can't run through? What are the options though? If you declare a national emergency. The Pentagon also has the funds available that they would be able to help support the building of the wall. If we don't make a deal with Congress, which we should be able to really just common sense and there's some compromise needed. And look, they know that the walls were all right. That was part of my interview with the President from Texas at the Rio Grand yesterday. McCallum, Texas is where the interview took place, and the President saying that if Nancy and Chuck, if they refuse to do their job and support the things that they themselves supported passionately in just recent years, and they just want to stop the progress, how many more Americans have to die? How many more Americans are we gonna see angel moms and dad. You're gonna meet some of them on Hannitay tonight at nine. Is this a manufactured crisis in their life? Or that ninety percent of heroin that comes into this country comes across our southern border. You know, I actually found another statistic because we've had been saying and the Department of Homeland Security had put out that three hundred Americans every week die because of a heroin overdose. According to the CDC dot gov about drug overdoses, from nineteen ninety nine to twenty seventeen, seven hundred thousand people have died from drug overdoses sixty eight percent or more of than the seventy thousand, two hundred drug overdose deaths in twenty seventeen involved an opioid. On average, they're claiming one hundred and thirty Americans die every day from an opioid overdose. That's nine hundred plus a week, more than three hundred. Anyway, joining us, now, let's talk about the legality. If the President does decide to go this route and declare a national emergency or bring in the Pentagon or the Army Corps of Engineers, does he have the legal authority to do so? Will it be challenged? Jay Seculars with US chief counsel for the American Center for Law and Justice, also counsel to the President. How are you, sir, I'm doing great, John, all right, So let's go. If the President decides to go this route, I see every I don't see any legal obstacle. Even Democrats are acknowledging some of them at least, that the president has the authority to do this. If you want to go to the specific law that you know we can go to. We can mention this specific law in this particular case because he has a right to do it. So look, the president has both statutorially has the right to do it, and that is Congress created National Emergencies Act, so he has that. But he also has the authority under the Constitution of the United States as president, So he has both constitutional authority and statutory authority. That is legislation that was passed authorizing actions in the event of what is deemed by the president to be a national emergency. Now, by the way, some people are trying to complate this with an active war. That's not what it's about. It's not about an act of war. It's a national emergency for instant. President Clinton in nineteen ninety five issued a national emergency declaration because of drug cartels coming and dealing with the heroin epidemic, and he issued the Colombian drug cartels. He issued a national directive on that national emergency declaration so that he could take specific action. You mentioned the funding of this, and as you said, the for instance, the Army Corps of Engineers has at at least five billion dollars in discretionary funds for what's actually they actually have approximately thirteen point nine billion available from congressionally approved moneys from February twenty eighteen, and the Supplemental Spending Bill that's in addition to the five billion dollars they have under the Discretionary Act for civil expenditures. So it's not as Look, this has never been about the money. What is this about. Those that are opposing the president on this do not want the president to have a win. Look what he's offered. He's offered to negotiate. They don't want to negotiate. He has talked about comprehensive immigration reform. They don't want to talk about comprehensive immigration reform. He's talked about. You know the thing with Jim Acosta yesterday had seen and he goes to the water. He says, I'm at the border. I'm at the wall. There's a steel slotted fence here, like the president wants. Nothing's happening with common tranquill exactly precisely right, because there's protection. So I think the look from a legal standpoint, it's very clear that the president has the authority. Now you asked an interview with the president, the question about what will happen, so will they challenge it? And the answer to that is, of course they'll challenge it. The next question is what happens ultimately, Well, let me slow you down here. They're going to challenge it, and they'll follow the typical left wing route, which is to go judge shopping, and that means the lawsuit will likely happen in Oregon or California. Yeah, so they'll go to the Southern District of California, they'll go to Hawaii, they'll go to Oregon. Like you said, they'll go to the Ninth Circuit. So you'll lose at the District court, you'll lose at the Court of Appeals, and you win at the Supreme Court, as we did with the case involving the travel restrictions that were imposed on the six targeted countries. Well, if it's a national emergency, can there be an expedited process, because how long is that going to take what you just described? I think actually, I mean I know that. My perspective on it is this, this is a question of law, not a question of fact, So it should move very rapidly through that. I think you could you could see this happen in months. And here's the real legal question. This is what people need to understand. What is the legal question here? The legal question is not whether whether the president deems there to be a national emergency. That's his decision as president. So the legal question is, can a judge, and this is what really would happen, Can a judge say I don't think there's an emergency, I being the Court the judge. Thus the president doesn't have the authority to act. And I think that's an overwhelming majority of the Supreme Court saying a judge cannot impose his authority over the presidents, especially as it relates to both constitutional and specific statute porty construction. Where the statute says the president has an authority, a judge cannot say, well, my view is the president got that wrong. So statutory on that issue. So the president constitutionally and statutorially has the ability to do this. Correct, And you're referring to the National Emergencies Act of seventy six, right, right, exactly correct. I explain Now, constitutionally, he's the commander in chief. Now, if Americans are being killed in part because of vulnerability on our southern border, wouldn't he wouldn't that be part of his job as commander in chief to protect the southern border, And that would then also allow and free up the military not only to provide funds, but to also be down on the border and protecting the border. No, that's exactly correct. So if you look at the overall authority of the president as commander in chief, it is very clear that it encompasses those kind of situations. So that's why I say, you both have a statutory right and a constitutional right. Now, the fact is that you may not even have to get to that because the statute is so clear. But clearly the constitutional right is inherent in the presidence authority as president of the United States, and a judge cannot impose his view of what the determination is over the presidents. Does the judge get to make the determination of what's a national emergency? Or does the president? And the statute says the president, and the constitution says the president. Well, it's not going to start stop liberal activist judges if it's a national emergency that the president declares. Why couldn't why wouldn't this go straight to the Supreme Court? Isn't there a path that they could date the original jurisdiction? So there's not original jurisdiction in that situation. But do you know how many items of law give the president the authority in the time of a national emergency existing on the books over four hundred and seventy provisions of federal law. So this is a well established right that a president has. So that's why I think it would move very quickly through the courts. So that would mean that there would be an obligation at the lower courts, going to the Ninth Circuit, going then to the Supreme Court. Because it's in this category of a national emergency, they have a duty and obligation where they can't sit on it for a year before they decide the case. I think that's exactly correct. And there's another issue here too, and that is not just the issue of the judge imposing his view or her view of what the law whether there's a national emergency or not. It's again, it's not an you know, people are conflating this in the national emergency means it's like an act to war. That's not what it means. The national emergency is defined differently. And when President Clinton did it for a drug cartels out of Columbia, what's the If it was good in nineteen ninety five, it would be good now. I mean no question that the president has there's precedent not only in the law, but in fact on this. And when I say in fact, what I'm meaning is other presidents have exercised this authority in similar situations. So this is not unprecedented. We had new King Ridge on earlier Newts position is that the president's had a much better political position to keep the shutdown going and let and I said to them, well, if you watch every single other cable network except for Hannity on Fox, what you're hearing is are the difficulties. And I'm sure it is difficult for some of these furloughed employees. For them, they've got to pay their rent, they got to pay their mortgage, they got to pay for their cars. All of that money will eventually make its way back into their bank accounts. But it has inconvenienced them and worried them at a pretty high level. But he thinks it is a much better way to go than to declare the national emergency. Well, I mean, here here's the look, that's a political question, and I respect a New English Former Speakers judgment on that. I think, Look, the president has the authority to do this. Does that get the people back to work? That's all. You know. By the way, if he declares the national emergency, does it mean that the that you've reached this impass now and the government's funded. It doesn't mean that now the president can say we will now move forward on that because I've taken action since Congress would not. But that would be a decision that the president would make, and you know the political consequences of this. Look, I'm sympathetic for the people that have been furloughed. I mean, who wouldn't be You have to know, and I want them all to get look where it came from. That's a good point. But you know in a situation where you got a Democratic party that that just five years ago was sounding just like Donald Trump, and that means Biden and Obama and Clinton and Schumer and all of them. And play those tapes over and over again. And then to take this stand here and to be so insulting when the President offers a meeting to solve the problem with the vice president, they send their aids or when Nancy Pelosi flippantly says, I'll give you a dollar, they were not serious about ever solving the issue. Is it just that they don't want Donald Trump to get the job done that they obviously couldn't get done. Yeah, no question about Look, I mean, if you look at this historically, and I have, every time there's been a real discussion of immigration reform Sean under a Republican, the Democrats have blocked it. Let's remember what George Bush tried to do, right, what Ronald Reagan tried to do others. So here's what the President puts out in the last few days. We could get comprehensive immigration reform. The last thing they want is comprehensive immigration reform done under the watch of Donald Trump. I mean, let's be realistic, because let's talk about the money we're dealing with here. Five billion dollars is less than one tenth of one percent of our budget. Less then one tenth of one percent of our budget. Twenty five billion dollars doesn't even reach like I think, it's point four percent of one percent. Point four of one percent lay a half a little more than half a percent of our budget. So this is not about the money. This has become an ideological battle between the left and the right, between the Republicans and the Democrats, ever you want to describe it. Over not the money, but a philosophical issue. If they don't want this president to have this win, well that's sad because in the meantime, well you saw what has happened in just the last two weeks with officers sing who, by the way, will be on Hannity tonight and here's Corkrane. His mom and dad will be on the program tonight. We're going to meet other angel moms and dads and they'll tell their story and I bet they have some strong words and thoughts about the whole concept and the whole idea that this is a manufactured crisis because it's not. Continue with Jay Sekulo, Chief council of American Center for Law and Justice, also counsel to the President. All Right, so the president now is his hand in a sense, he's got to make a decision. And what I'm hearing from my sources on Capitol Hill is the President's going to give them a deadline. Maybe it's up to the State of the Union address, maybe it's two weeks, three weeks, whatever, and if Congress fails to act, then he will declare the state of emergency, which you know, haven't been down there thirteen times, Jay, and having seen the drugs, the poorest porters, gang members arrested in front of me, and also talking over the years to many of these angel moms and dads. Let me tell you, every American should watch Hannity tonight and then decide for yourself if this is a manufactured crisis as they say. But how long would it take getting through the courts? If you're assuming they go to California, assuming they go to the Ninth Circuit, how long till it gets its way to the Supreme Court. I think it can move rapidly. I mean I think they the government can ask for expedited review at every step. In other words, don't just wait for when he gets to the Supreme Court. Expedited review at the district court, expedited review at the Night Circuit Court of Appeals. I mean I've done cases where it's gone from you know, the district court to the Supreme Court in two months, in eight weeks, so it can happen. I mean I've had cases where I've taken a stay up to the Supreme Court from a decision in the day, right, So there is there are ways to move the case forward. But you do know they'll judge shop it. Oh, absolutely. I mean you gotta wonder if maybe it would be better if the Republicans they filed the suit in a more friendly venue first. Let them do it well, I mean, they're they're going to file a lawsuit as soon as the president, if the President takes action, they are going to file a lawsuit, and that lawsuit will be filed in a sympathetic jurisdiction, which means someplace probably in California. And in that case, and in that scenario, what I think will happen is we're going to have to just aggressively move for a review. And so you just got to get it up You got to get it upstairs, so the Supreme Court as quick as you can. Yeah, and how long would an expedited review normally take. I think you could do an X. I mean, an expedited review properly played, could be done in in a couple of months. It could be pretty quick, and it quickly even go quicker if they It depends on I think if we get to actual real judges that aren't judicial activists, I can't see this losing in the Supreme Court. Jay Seculo, Chief Council American Center for Law Injustice also Counsel to the President. Thank you Jay for being with us. Eight hundred nine for one Sean told free telephone number. We'll get to your calls when we get back. As we continue, all right, twenty five now till the top of the hour, eight hundred nine for one Sean if you want to be a part of the program. So this yesterday was what my I'm trying to remember. We're trying to go back and at least twelve thirteen fourteen trips to the border. I'd been to McCallum, Texas before. I've been to the Rio Grand many times. I've been out there with some of these guys with gunships, you know. I remember one instance, and this was the we were there before Governor Perry got there one year, and you'd see people on the other side. I mean I probably could reach them throwing a baseball. I mean it's not that it's you know, you'll walk across in some areas where it's not deep at all, you can walk across and be in the United States from Mexico in about one minute or less and anyway. So, but also we saw people there that were armed, obviously dangerous on the other side of the border. And we had when I was with Governor Perry and El Salvadorian family crossed and we got people. As they pointed out yesterday in the briefing with the President, you know, they're catching people from forty countries, you know, Bangladesh, the Middle East, all over the world. People get to Mexico, go to the southern border and that is the one area that probably the easiest area to cross. And anyway, so we went over all this with the President what his plans are. And let me play this exclusive in view that I had yesterday with the President at the border in McCallum, Texas. Thank you, real Graham. Behind us, these are the guys on the front line. You're giving them encouraging messages. Right behind them is five hundred pounds of drugs that they have captured from this river. That's right. They are incredible people. We've just spent some time together and we had a whole group at a meeting we also had that was just covered on your network and other networks, and it's incredible the job they do and we really appreciate it. That's right. They have a tremendous amount of drugs that they just captured. Right behind us, and that's what they do. And if we had a barrier, a steel barrier, a concrete barricle, whatever you want, it wouldn't have we wouldn't have the problem. I have some shots that will show in this people can walk across the river and or take them about it one a minute and a half, two minutes, that's all. And if there is no barrier, all those drugs get in. If these guys can't carry every second, every inch of of you the two thousand miles, that's right, they have easy access into the United States. We've built a lot of wall. We've renovated tremendous amount of wall with money that we've already gotten, and we're continuing that. But now we really just want to get it going and finish it up, and we're going to build the new wall. And it's common sense. It really is when you think of it, whether you're into the world of law enforcement, like these incredible folks behind us that understand the wall so easily. I mean, we would make their jobs so much better, and they could also go to other areas because we have the wall, you don't need so many people. We would probably pay for that many times in one year. If you think about just many times. So it's not a money thing, it's a political thing. They look at the twenty twenty race and they're not feeling too good about it. They'll do whatever they can to win. I have tapes of maybe twenty Democrats. They all use the same phraise manufactured crisis. Interestingly, they're best friends in the media. They're all using the same word, manufactured crisis. So we have drug cartels, we have gangs that we're dealing with, nine of America's heroin crossing our southern border. And then of course we've had homicides, and we've had sexual assaults, one hundred thousand violent assaults. What do you say to that talking point the media and the Democrats are using, this is manufactured. Well, you know, I watched last night. I saw in your show last night actually where you had anchor after anchors using the exact same word. It's manufactured, MANUSI sounds like they're in collusion, A little collusion. That's the real collusion. Okay, that's the real collusion. You take a look, because they all use the exact same term, I mean literally the exact same two words. But they had manufactured. I said, where did they come up with that it's a manufactured crasis. No, it's a manufactured sound bite because it was just a sound bite. But virtually every you know, I call it the fake news. I'm sure you haven't heard, because you're not fake news. Actually you're real news. And there is some of that. No, there is some of that around fortunately, and these are great people. These are patriotic people that do it correctly. But you know, when I hear that term manufactured and you see every sing group using it, it's very sad. We lose three hundred Americans a week of the heroine comes into the country, but in the last two weeks we lost officers sing in California. Then Pierce Cochrane I had his parents on the shoulders, said that I don't know how you recover after losing a child killed by illegal immigrants. I've met and I've interviewed so many angel moms and dads too. Are they going to say that to them the people that lost their loved ones, their sons, their daughters, their parents, or you know, many of the people that aren't getting their check, they get it, they're going to get it soon. But many of the people they're with us one hundred percent. They want us to win this battle. These people want us to win. Everybody wants us to win this battle. It's common sense. Death is pouring through. We have crime and death, and it's not just at the border. They get through the border, but then they go all they filter into the country, and you have MS thirteen gangs in different places like Los Angeles, and you have gangs all over Long Island, which we're knock in the hell out. But there should be no reason for us to have to do this. They shouldn't be allowed in and if we had the barrier, they wouldn't be able to get in. Okay. So the point everybody that I have met and spoken to, they all say, tell the president if you see them, hold the line. Now, you said earlier today that it's likely that you're very likely going to declare a national emergency. How soon would that happen? Now, if we don't make a deal with Congress, most likely I will do that, I would actually say I would. I can't imagine any reason why not, because I'm allowed to do it. The laws one hundred percent on my side. So if we can't make a deal with Congress, so we should be able to make a deal with Congress. If you look Democrats in Congress, especially the new ones coming in and starting to say, wait a minute, we can't win this battle with Trump because of the fact that it's just common sense. How can we say that a wall doesn't work? They show one helicopters, empty fields. Are people just running through and you put a wall they can't run through? What are the options though? If you declare a national emergency. The Pentagon also has the funds available that they would be able to help support the building of the wall if we don't make a deal with Congress, which we should be able to. Really just common sense and there's some compromise needed. And look, they know that the walls work. You know what works a wheel and a wall. It stays. They call it a medieval thing. Well, you know, I'm looking at all these very expensive cars all over here, loaded up with machine guns, and every single one of them has wheels. It's a wheel is an old thing and a wall is an old thing. There are two things they work. They work. A wall would be so effective, it would solve so many killings and so much death and drugs and human trafficking. Would they tape up women on their face, They tape them up and they put them in the back of a car or a van and they drive right through our border. I guess the next most important question is when you do that, would you expect they're going to go judge shopping, They go to the Ninth Circuit, they go to California to start the process. Is there are your attorney's telling you there's an expedited way perhaps to the Supreme Court, and they are saying there possibly is, and hopefully we wouldn't even have to go through. Is very clear. I mean, we have the absolute right to declare a national emergency and this is security stuff. This is a national emergency. If you look at what's happening, and you just heard the statement they came in last week or this week from Pakistan and different people they got them. Do you see, Sarah Cardinal Leslin have people from Bangladesh and they come in through the southern border because it's really considered the space into the place where they can get in and we want to close it up. These people have done the greatest job. It's hard work and it could be a lot easier, and it would be virtually one hundred percent effective. And Nancy and Chuck know that. But it's politics. It's about the twenty twenty campaign. It's about running for president. That's what they're doing. They're already doing it. It's a shame. We got to put the country first. When you see you, when you see the same Democrats, Hillary or Mama, Biden, Schumer all supporting this, you know in two thousand and six, twenty thirteen, right, they're not supporting it now? Is it because you're the president? They don't want you to get a wind. Shouldn't the wind be about the country being saved or more secure? They know what I'm saying is one hundred percent right. And it's not only us, it's everybody saying it. These people say it, everybody says it. If you don't have a barrier, whether it's a steel barrier or a concrete wall, substantial and strong, you're never going to solve this problem. You're never going to solve it. And I don't need this. Look, I could have done something a lot easier. I could have enjoyed myself. I haven't left the White House because I'm waiting for them to come over in a long time. You know that I stayed home for Christmas. I stayed at the White House for New Year's and I think it tweeted Christmas Eve all alone? Where's Chuck and Nancy? My family? I told them stay in Florida and enjoy yourselves. But the fact is I want to be in Washington. I mean, I consider it very very important. Last question, timeline, before you think you have to go the route and declare a national emergency, well, I think we're going to see what happens over the next few days. They should do it immediately. Look, we're not going anywhere. We're not changing mind because there's nothing to change your mind. But the wall works. It's not a question like, well maybe it won't work. It'll work one hundred percent. Now we're adding onto that equipment to find drugs that are hidden in cars. I mean there's incredible equipment. We're adding sensors, we're adding drones. But what we need is we need the barrier. If we don't have a barrier, if we don't have a steel or concrete barrier, we're all wasting a lot of time and lives will be saved. I know you're you're thinking about the furloughed employees. You support them, getting all their back pay one hundred percent. I support them tremendously. But I also support families like the sing family and others, others by the hundreds and by the thousands that have lost somebody because our policies are so bad, and especially at the southern border. They've lost and they've had people so badly hurt. But they've lost them, they've lost their lives, they've lost they've lost their heart out of the family. I support those families, the Angel moms, you know the interviews very well, and so do I. I I support them too. Does it mean a lot to you guys that the President's down here, yes? Or absolutely? And as he describing the situation accurately, and if you get the wall, the drugs will stop. You can stop the cartels, human trafficking, drug trafficking, the gangs. Yes, it will help. It will improve refect by what percent. Like the chief said, the majority of our traffic is u is usually coming through areas that don't have a wall, just like this. Five hundred and fifteen pounds a dope, mister President, thanks for taking time, Thank you very much. Thank you guys for what you do too. Thank you. We appreciate it, all right, now tonight on Hannity, we're gonna have angel mom's, dad's families. They're gonna tell the stories exclusively to us. I wonder what they think of the Democrats and the media saying that this is a manufactured crisis. And literally you could fill a stadium. There are so many people family members that have lost loved ones and it's sad that they don't seem to care even a wit about them by saying, it's kind of insulting. That's that's the manufactured crisis. That's my son or daughter. What do you mean a manufactured crisis? Or if you lost a kid to heroin? Where the heroin come from? Well, nine out of ten times it's coming from Mexico. Right, This whole United talkie point among Democrats and their cohorts and the liberal hate Trump media of Oh, this is not a crisis. It's a manufactured crisis. Manufactured crisis. Really, let me play this for you and then we'll tell you what we have on Hannity tonight. President Trump must stuff holding American people hostage. Might stop manufacturing a crisis. To manufacture a crisis, this is a manufacturing crisis. No crisis exists, and anyone making the argument is most likely guilty of fear mongering and willfully misleading the American people. Locals will tell him on the border, even conservatives, is that there isn't a national security crisis. The notion that we have a crisis, their security crisis is absolute nonsense because it is a manufactured crisis, and a crisis that manufactured by the Trump administration. This artificial crisis of the president isn't going to justify his appropriating money for a wall that Congress is unwilling to give. Is there a crisis at the border of the president said there's a humanitarian crisis that the border is there? Absolutely not. We have a challenge, oh our humanitarian issues or challenges for us. The big scam of the whole address was that there's a crisis. There's not a crisis, folks. The president has manufactured one heck of a political crisis for himself. Donald Trump is manufacturing a national security crisis. You will hear them say, is that this is a manufactured crisis. It's not a national security crisis. It remains a Seinfeld shutdown, all about all about nothing. What happens when there is a real crisis, when there is a real emergency. Does he take to the airways, Do we give him the yearways? Do we believe him? Some question if there is a crisis at all, as the President has claimed, there is not a crisis at the border. It's a manufactured crisis for the president to get a political when the crisis can have, as we see now, a very elastic definition, and he's determined to convince you there is a crisis at the border, even though an intelligence official tell sin and quote. No one is saying this is a crisis except them. The way he was killed, what my family is going through right now, I do not want any other family, law enforcement person to go through that. Whatever it takes to minimize put a stop to it. My family fully supports it. I want them to go to work, be safe, come home to their family safely. And I always, every day I was, you know, scared that I would lose my son. Never in my wildest dream that I am very imagined my son dying at a family outing a criminal illegal alien that killed him. Well, we're going to be interviewing parents, family member of those that have been killed by illegal immigrants, angel moms and dads. I wonder what they think of the media and politicians saying it's a manufactured crisis. Well of all of that, don't miss it tonight nine Eastern Hannity, Fox News. Have a great weekend. We'll see it at night at nine. Back here on Monday,