Tennessee Wants A Wall - November 17th, Hour 2

Published Nov 17, 2021, 11:01 PM

 Senator Marsha Blackburn, of Tennessee, is here to talk about her questioning of Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas for his failure to secure the southern border and provide answers to Tennesseans.

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All right, our two Sean Hannity Show. If it's simple man, that means it's all things. Bill O'Reilly dot com and he joins us. Now, mister O'Reilly, how are you, sir? I'm is he just like you? I'm not okay in a country I know you're down in. I'm down in the Florida for the Patriot Awards. I'm honored to be here and the whole team is here and we're all ready to have a good time and honor people that deserve to be honored. I'm getting an award, right, No, you're not. I'm not. No, why would you think you're getting an award? Who's I'm a patriot? Okay? All right, we're talking about patriots that go above and beyond a line of Dude, why does everything I have to go back to you? That's not that makes your life complicated? All right? Let me go to the Rittenhouse thing, and I want to go specifically at this idiot prosecutor in this case. I don't know how much of this that you watch. I don't know if you saw the moment where Binger literally picks up an AR fifteen. He has his finger on the trigger and he aims the rifle in the courtroom at people in the courtroom. Then he goes even further, using an image from Patrick Swayze's nineteen eighty nine film Roadhouse. Then you're getting lectures, Oh, everybody needs to take a beating at some time, and Kyle Rittenhouse was too cowardly to use his fists. Now I'm listening to this that I'm thinking, you're really desperate, if that's what you're saying. But with that said, we're in day two, and of course we are awaiting a verdict, and I do not believe the prosecution made their case. I think by the law of Wisconsin, Kyle Rittenhouse was within his rights to defend himself. As evidence by him running away, by him having a loaded weapon pointed at him, and somebody grabbing the barrel of a gun. You have videotape evidence, you have eyewitness testimony, your thoughts. Look, this is not a difficult case to find out if this man intentionally committed murder Rittenhouse. He clearly did not, and there isn't anybody who's honest that would say he did. But when you have these political cases, and you know that's what this is, the media comes on in They want Kyle Rittenhouse to be convicted, they want his life to be ruined. They don't care about events leading up to what happened. They don't care that Rittenhouse himself might have been killed by the guy who pointed a gun in his face. They don't care. It's all about progressive race politics, and that's the country in which we live. I'll never get credit, but I was in Atlanta when Richard Jewell, the Atlanta Journal Constitution comes out with an addition that says fits the profile of the lone bomber because he lives with his mother. And I was the only person that said, because he lives with his mother doesn't mean a thing. It doesn't mean he's a terrorist. It turned out I was right. It also turned out Richard Jewell was listening to me say those words, and I got the first interview with Richard Jewel at the time. Now, if you go to Duke Lacrosse, if you go to Ferguson, Missouri, if you go to Treyvon and George Zimmerman, if you go to UVA, if you go to Freddie Graham Baltimore, if you go to the Cambridge Police Bill, and then you can add on top of that the Russia collusion hoax. Every single time the media does not allow due process. I'll add Justice Kavanaugh and Justice Claire Thomas to the list. They don't allow the presumption of innocence. They create an expectation of a result that's never going to come when the actual evidence comes out, and I end up being right because I actually don't make a determination until I meet with the families, for example in the Ducal cross case, or have sources on the ground in Ferguson telling me we have more eyewitnesses that will corroborate the story of Darren Wilson. They don't do their job. Bill, It's it's not an accident that I always end up being right and you always end up being right. We do our homework. The tragedy of all this in you know, just putting the loss of life aside. Of course, that's tragic, is that many Americans still believe in the justice system, and the justice system has collapsed, and particularly in big cities across the country where you can hurt people. I mean a guy in New York City, you know the story. A guy stabs one cop, hits another cop in the head with a safe and the judge lets him out with nobil. I mean, think back ten years ago, that could never have happened. Never, And I didn't see outside of the New York Post a lot of outrage from the local media in New York because they're scared. They don't want to be pillard on the tweeting, and they don't want to be singled out, and they want to play it safe. But when you have a criminal justice system that's basically collapsed in a nation of three hundred and thirty five million people, that's dangerous for all of us. What do you make How much pressure do you believe this jury is feeling because there are people outside the courtroom, outside the court house, I should say, where the deliberations are ongoing. If Kenosha don't get it, shut it down. They know what happened in the past, they know the unrest that happened in their city. How much pressure do you think this jury feels? And more importantly, do you believe this can influence the jury in their decision making? Well, the last line of defense is the jury, and we saw that collapse in the O. J. Simpson case. So if a guilty plea comes back, I'm not going to be one hundred percent shock because people are subject to pressure from the people they live here, and there is a hardcore cadre run by Black Lives Matter in Kenosha that wants Kyle Riten now is to be convicted. So that's a reality now. Whether or not the jury will stand up to that and just say no, the evidence is beyond any reasonable doubt, He's not guilty. I just don't know because of the Simpson case. And I'm that, But don't you think the Simpson case was a little unique inasmuch as I would argue that was a case of jury nullification. No, it was a race play, but it would but that would be that would that by definition is jury nullification. But when I was out there reporting on it, by the way, word of the day, jury nullification. I'm just teasing bell impression. You know, you're very impressive linguistic. I'm just there. I'm just learning from the best Bell, thank you. When I was there reporting on Simpson, I had the opportunity to ask the jurors after they acquitted Simpson, what was the one piece of hard evidence that you used to make your decision. They couldn't do it, And I don't think to this day any of the jurors on the Simpson trial have articulated why they let Simpson go when the evidence was overwhelming. I agree the evidence was overwhelming, but there was one huge mistake, and I did not think that the prosecution did a particularly good job in that case, and I do believe the attorneys for O. J. Simpson did a better job. And the moment when he put on the glove and if it don't don't fit, you must acquit that moment was very profound and that was a mistake. Now it turns out, apparently according to analysis afterwards, that you know, gloves have a tendency to shrink if they're wet or whatever. But that moment was pretty profound, and I think gave an opening for the not guilty plead. Now do I think he was guilty as hell? Yeah. I think he's still out there on the golf course looking for the killers right now. So what we have in America is a jury system driven primarily by emotion, and there's a lot of emotion in Kenosha, and those people there, they're afraid, they are afraid. I don't believe they're gonna convict written. How so I think in the end they'll acquit him, but I know they're afraid. And let's look at the three cases. Immediately, when the lead star witness for the prosecution admits he pointed a loaded gun at Kyle Rittenhouse before Kyle Rittenhouse shot him, Okay, we can put that charge aside. Then you've got an example. And I was kind of shocked that the judge allowed this provocation lifeline to be thrown out to the prosecution in the last moments of this case. Here that in other words, you lose the right to self defense if you provoked the incident in the first place. Now you regain the right to self defense if, in fact, you try to remove yourself from the situation. When we see the video and then couple that with the eyewitness testimony of Kyle Rittenhouse running away from a group of people what looked like a mob to me, and then they actually get him on the ground, and you have that still store shot of this guy with his foot ready to pound it right into his face into the pavement, which could cause seriously serious bodily harm or death. That defines that that that is by definition a right to self defense moment. And in the third case, you got this guy holding onto the barrel of Kyle Rittenhouse's gun. That too would represent a not guilty verdict, because again it's self defense, as the laws written in Wisconsin. Well, let's hope that the jury um puts emotion aside and summons the courage to do what everybody has seen. I think if you took a pull tomorrow, among all Americans who are following this case, eight would say not guilty. I think you're probably right. I think that's an accurate number. Now, the question is what happened if a not guilty verdict across the board comes in. You see people gathering outside the courtroom. You see agitators ready to agitate, people with political agendas. We had five hundred and thirty what four or five riots in the summer of twenty twenty. Interesting, we don't have a congressional committee for that. We don't get lectures on the constitution and the rule of law from Liz Cheney. There's not a single commission or committee investigating. We lost dozens of Americans, thousands of cops who are injured. Bill, how come we only how come Washington? It only cares about the one riot which we condemned and not all the riots that took place in the summer of twenty twenty. They feared the Washington Post, in the New York Times, and the corporate network news for us, they fear those people. Now we're in trouble in this country unity because you have a collapsing justice system where in cities like New York and Chicago, in LA and San Francisco, people can hurt you and nothing will happen to them. Nope, you have then anarchy and there is no move that I can see of from the Justice Department. And you ask what will happen? The National Guard is there, and that of course is big. And I don't think the National Guard are going to step aside to allow law's behavior. I think they'll clamp it down hard. All right, quick break, we'll come back. We'll continue more with Bill O'Reilly All things o'reiley Bill O'Reilly dot com from Florida. It's the Sean Hannity Show. All right, we continue with Bill O'Reilly all things o'reiley at Bill O'Reilly dot com. What do you think of the It's been what since the last time somebody was actually brought into court over a contempt of Congress charge was nineteen eighty three. People like Henry Kissinger, who we both know, Janet Reno, Harriet Myers, Josh Poulton, Eric Holder, Lois Lerner, Brian Pagliano, Bill Barr, Chad Wolf, they were all also held in contempt of Congress. It doesn't matter what your feelings about Steve Bannon, aar. Why do we have a selective justice system, a dual justice system That doesn't sound like equal justice and equal application of our laws to me? It's not with mister Bannon. He goaded the congressional committee. All he had to do was walk in and take the fifth. He didn't want to do that. He wanted to make a display of defiance. Now, the only guy that you referred to is G. Gordon Liddy, the Watergate burglar, who did the same thing. He basically said, I'm not answering any questions, I'm not coming before your stupid committee, and I don't care what you do to me, and he served time. Other than that, in our lifetime, there hasn't been anybody charged with a federal crime of contempt of Congress and actually arrested and arraigned. So is it political? Sure? Shouldn't even be January sixth, investigation in the House. Why are we bothering you want an investigation? Appoint a special counsel from the Justice Department, go on in and do it that way. Why are you doing a partisan investigation in the House? What built? It's a they have a predetermined now come you know it. I know it. Everybody listening to us now knows it. That's why they kicked off Jim Jordan and Jim Banks. By the way, I want to give a quick plug. I think I'm gonna make it to your Tampa show. You're doing four shows around the country with President Trump. I'm trying to work out my schedule and because the show is an Orlando, so I will give you directed. You know, you're such a jackass. I'm trying to be nice. And by the way, and I know you've sold over thirty some one thousand tickets, but there are some tickets available. They're very big venues. And it's just going to be you and Trump, and it's going to be about the history of as presidency and the impact of it. And uh, we'll see what happens. And I hope, all right, we'll produce us in Orlando on why why I get paid to do things like that. Bill, I don't do those things, but we have money. We've told with thirty thousand tickets. That's true. You do backstage and I freeze. Just bring the Tito's vodka anyway, Bill O'Reilly all things O'Reilly. If you're interested in seeing the president President Trump and Bill, just go to Bill O'Reilly dot com. Thank you, sir, ladies and gentlemen, we like to take a second to hear the immortal Bob Grant's thoughts about the world today. Hey, ladies and gentlemen, it's sick and it's getting sicker. Now back to the Sean Hannity show Man, It's sick and it's getting sicker. Eight hundred nine one, Sean, you want to be a part of the program? Went down in Florida. It seems like I think I had originally been planned. I don't want to say who, but I was very honored to be asked to give one of the Patriot Awards to somebody that I really admire. I'll tell you tomorrow who it was. I don't know if they know, if they're getting it. That's the problem. So I don't want to break, can't they watch. We can tell people to want Yeah they can. But you know, I will be live doing Hannity because of what's going on in Wisconsin, so I'll probably miss most of it. And my son and his friends are coming down here, which will be pretty cool. Why are you smiling? I listen. I love when your families around. I think it's a wonderful thing. You know, I rarely talk about them, but it's fun. It's fun to see you guys together. And he's a growing up now. I've known him since he was about it. Thank God. The Maury grows up, the better it gets from my life. Yes, he's a hard working capitalist. He's doing great. I'm proud of him. But I say that with my fingers crossed. I think you got everything crossed. Actually every every No, Look, he's a great kid. I'm very blessed. But um, anyway, so he's I don't He's gonna have to decide to watch Dad, which he can do every night anyway, or watch the awards. I think he'll just the awards. Well, I think he's gonna be in there, so I'll probably watch the awards. Yeah, I think. So it's gonna be super fun. Are you going by the way, I don't know. Am I going? I don't know. You're welcomed up. I'm wearing my uniform jeans, a blue shirt and a jacket. Yeah, my uniform. No, hell no, Why I'm not wearing a tie anytime I'm mad at the studio? I don't wear a tie? Is that right? I don't I wear a tie literally for sixty one minutes on any given day. Do you know the maximum? Do you know how to tie a tie? I tie my own tie every night. I do. Do you make a windsor or a regular? A regular? Okay? I'm just asking. Oh my god, I don't know all the answers. All right, anyway, we're on jury verdict Watch eight or nine four one. Shaun as a number. You want to be a part of the program. Brad is in South Carolina, Brad High. How are you glad you called? Sir? Thank you, sirs. Mine comment is, I want to hope the boy comes out in sad and that's what he is. He's a kid. I got a couple of questions. You know who's really at fault to this is the law enforcement in that town. I'm a twenty two year law enforcement veteran, and US Marine Corps veteran. And I'm telling you that stuff would have never went down into county where our sheriff is now, Spartmer County. We wouldn't have put up with that Sparkmer County, wouldn't. You're talking about the initial rioting that took place in Kenosha, correct, Yeah. I see police vehicles there and people pushing trash kids down the street. That would have never flew. And two, my other point is I can't believe a seventeen year old kid would even go down there, whether he was asked, how did anything felt like he could have made a difference and taken a take a don't I don't disagree with you on this point. Now maybe yet all the altruistic motives in the world, but when you know Adam Schiff is about to hit the fan, I don't think you should be there or put yourself in a position knowing what we had known in the summer of twenty twenty, in the five and thirty some odd riots that Liz Cheney and the rest of the Committee of January six don't seem to care about, when we lost dozens of people and thousands of cops injured, bricks, rocks, bottles, molotov cocktails and worse. So well, first, thank you for serving your country. Simplify, thanks for your service in law enforcement. But with that said, we don't. We're now at a point where most cops in most cities don't feel that they have the backing to do their job. How do I know because I have a lot of friends that a policemen and policewomen, and my family is in law enforcement, and they feel that it's open season on them. You have seen all the videos you have seen cops literally confronted by anarchists, you know, bust burning their cars, assaulting cops, throwing fluids all over them, buckets of water even and getting away with all of it. You know, with all the talk about all the people involved in January sixth, Okay, I don't support rioting. If you don't obey the law, you should there should be a punishment. But the punishment should also be applied to the people that were rioting and looting and involved in arson and taking over city blocks and burning down police precincts. We should have equal application of the law in those cases. And nobody wants to talk about that. The only reason we talk about one riot and not all the riots. Is because the one riot they want to talk about they feel they can bludgeon Donald Trump one more time. That's what Liz Cheney's motivation is. Otherwise Liz would be leading the effort to form a committee to look into the five hundred and thirty five riots. So to me, you know, this is a predetermined outcome sham committee, and it's not worth the paper it's going to end up being printed on. They already wrote it right. The second point is did his parents know that he was going down there? I think so. I interviewed his mom. She was a lovely lady, and her answer was that this is who this kid is, that he genuinely has a calling, a desire to help people. I don't doubt that at all. Apparently he did help some people in each instance, though, you know, for whatever reason he's there, Whether it was a good decision or a bad decision, that's irrelevant to the case. What's relevant is within the law of Wisconsin, did he fear for his life? Did he fear that he was facing serious, significant bodily harm. I would argue a pointed, loaded gun at your head would fit that definition. I would argue that when you're being chased by a mob and you're on the ground and you're about to have your face kicked into the pavement, you're at risk of serious bodily harm or even death. I would argue, if somebody grabs the barrel of your gun and you have to defend yourself, knowing that if he gets the gun, they likely would turn it on you, it fits the definition of the law based in Wisconsin. So on the law, it doesn't matter why he was there. It doesn't matter whether it was a good decision or a bad decision. After midnight, after two am, there's not a lot of good that's going to be happening wherever you happen to be, and it's better off if you're home in your bed, safe and sound. But you know, young kids, they don't They just don't think the same way as mature adults. Unfortunately, now this kid is his whole life is hanging in the hands of this jury, and we'll see what happens. Juries are notoriously difficult to predict what they're gonna do. There's enormous political pressure in Kenosha outside of that courthouse that I'm sure the jury is keenly aware of but if they follow the law, he should be found not guilty on every charge in my view. Appreciate the call, Thanks for being with us. Eight hundred that was bred in South Carolina, Iowa. We have Tony's standing by Tony. Hi. How are you glad you called? Sir? Great Hannity, Thanks for taking the call. And I'm following us both too little nervous, you know, if they if they con victim, I just think it's gonna embolden more and more rioters. You know, those are the ones that, sure there was a certain percentage that we're out there to just even though they were breaking a curfew, they were out there to protest. But it's those well, frankly, the ones, the kind of people that got shot are the ones who are emboldened by you know, this this protection to where, oh, if there's not going to be anybody out there with guns because of this verdict, everyone, you know, the law followers are going to be too scared to come out with now. I think people have been emboldened. No, very few people have ever been held accountable for the five hundred and thirty five riots that killed dozens of Americans injured thousands of cops and caused billions and billions of dollars in financial losses for many businesses. Either they were robbed and there was looting, or they were burned to the ground. Their businesses were burned to the ground, and nobody seems to care to hold those people accountable, even though in many of those instances we have videotaped evidence. Look, this has been a pet peeve of mine for a long time. Ferguson Missouri. We had people on video committing crimes. Why we didn't track each and every one of them down is a mistake because you are emboldening people. You're telling people you can get away with it, You're not gonna face consequences. The same thing when it happened in Baltimore, Maryland. That was the pretty gray case. And the couple in Missouri that stood their ground on their porch while MS was being stormed, well, well, and apparently they went down. They're in Kenosha now too. I don't know why they're there, but they apparently want to. They feel so strongly about the case that they feel compelled to go there. Anyway, good call, I appreciate it. Eight hundred nine one. Shawn is on a number you want to be a part of the program. Sharon is in Houston, Texas on KTRH. What's up, Sharon, How are you glad you called? Hi? Sean, Thank you, thank you. I wanted to say that I can remember the day when when Rittenhouse would have been considered a patriot and a hero in the community because he was there to help a community effort of a team of people that were cleaning up from previous riots and burnings and lootings. They were they were just doing a community project. And we cannot let this criminal element that has developed take over our culture and society like this. We have to we can't let them make us afraid so that we stay inside our houses and we don't come out, and we don't defend ourselves. And I believe that he's standing for all law abouting citizens were the right to defend ourselves, and I'm praying for him. Look, do I think this kid probably went there, as stated for altruistic reasons? Yeah? I kind of got that feeling that he's sincere. Do I think it was a wise decision? I don't, because knowing what we know, having seen riot, having covered one riot after another, riot after another riot. You just don't need to be there in those moments. I have, for example, those a couple of friends of mine that were in Washington around January fifth and six, and I advised them all to stay away from any trouble, and they all did. They didn't listen right away, but they all eventually listened. Um, because I know what can happen. I follow these stories, I report on these stories. I know with a natural outcome of these incidents, I know what this is headed. It's not a lot of good coming out of it. Anyway, I appreciate the call. All right, quick break, We'll come back eight hundred nine one, Sean, if you want to be a part of the program. MORERIR calls coming up straight ahead as we continue. We're in Florida today for the Patriot Awards for Fox News, but we will be live nine Eastern watching the events unfolding. Kenosha Stephen is in South Carolina. Stephen, Hi, how are you glad you called? Hey? Sean, thanks for taking McCall and I just wanted to get off on a tangent a little bit about to make a point about the current illegitimate administrations handling of the vaccine mandate for healthcare workers regarding the China virus was calling only behalf of my wife, who has been a state employee for the healthcare system here for twenty five years. She will be losing her job in two weeks because she thinks the vaccine is basically a hipibolation. If you forced me to show you, I ask you personal question that you don't do not have to answer. Did your wife ever get COVID? No? No, we've we've following all the mask rules and standing no listen even people to follow the mask rules. These breakthrough cases are real. A friend of mine's kid that fully vaccinated got COVID yesterday. It's they're a hotspots all over New York again. Um, look, I'm not as I've been saying. There's nothing I'm gonna say or foul she's gonna say, or the CDC is gonna say, or the NIH is gonna say, or you know, the blubbering idiot Biden is ever gonna say that's gonna convince you. So the she sounds like she's made up her mind. I pray she doesn't get this. I strongly urge you to stay in contact with her doctor. I don't know if you know what monoclonal antibodies are, whether you're vaccinated or unvaccinated. If she ever gets a positive test, you immediately need to contact your doctor. I have found anecdotally that it has worked for many people, but that's gonna be up to you. But I will say this for people like your wife, in the worst moments of this pandemic, went into a basically a work environment that was a COVID Petrie dish and we're diving on ovid hand grenades every day. They were the heroes, and now we're firing the heroes, the nurses, the hospital workers. And to me, that's unconscionable. Would your wife accept a test to get tested if that was made available as a choice for her. I only got about ten seconds here. I'm just saying, which, that's not a choice. It's basically just a violation of the chant Amendment. There's not a choice. You either get baxed or proved that your vibe. If she had the choice, would she accept it? Yes, But that's not an obtrept sir. Well, it's sad to me, and that's why I've been trying to get people to back off the mandate and at least thread the needles so people won't lose their income, their benefits, and their pensions. Eight hundred nine one saw on our number you want to be a part of the program will continue

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