Sheep No More - 11.22

Published Nov 23, 2017, 3:57 AM

Sean is off for the Thanksgiving holiday and Jonathan Gilliam ably fills in as he discusses strategies from his new book, "Sheep No More: The Art of Awareness and Attack Survival. Gilliam discusses the five basic principles everyone should know in order to protect themselves. The Sean Hannity Show is live weekdays from 3 pm to 6 pm ET on iHeartRadio and Hannity.com.

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So that's uh, my first visit to the v AH this week and the v A here in New York City. They've done a pretty incredible job, So I want to thank them for all that, for all their help this week. Now, those of you don't know who I am, and uh, I hope that you do. I fill in on Sean Hannity's radio show. You may have heard me on David Webb. You may have heard me on Andrew Wilcow shows. I'm a former Navy seal, Federal Air Marshal, security contractor, and FBI special agent. And I just finished a book. It's actually gonna be out in December twelve. You can get it right now on Amazon. It's called Sheet No More, The Art of Awareness and Attack Survival. You can order. You can pre order that right now. It's better that you pre ordered. If you're driving down the road you never heard of me before, I'm gonna tell you all about this book. But we're gonna I'm gonna have a series of people, UH talk today about awareness because that's ultimately what it's about, the art of awareness and attack survival. What I'm gonna try to do today before you go on your Thanksgiving. Hopefully many of you are driving to your family's houses right now and you're listening to this and you're already out of work. What I'm gonna try ton by to you over the next few hours. Is something that is so important that I want you to I know, you listen to talk radio and everybody listening to stuff, and there's so much going on with whether it's the sex scandals constantly, or whether it is a terrorist attack, or whether it's a church shooting by a craze madman. I'm going to tell you today, We're gonna talk to several different people, and we're gonna go over awareness and how you can actually forward think a lot of these types of attacks, and how you can do your own little target package on your life in different sectors of your life so that you can then identify where these things would possibly happen. So you know, if you're a female and you're a new job, or maybe you're an actress and you work in Hollywood, Yes, there are conservatives that listen to this show that are in Hollywood. We know that. We know that. So if you're listening, you know this is gonna be something that you'll want to stay for the whole three hours so you can understand that literally you can find out and identify where these sexual predators may pop up just by simply targeting yourself from their perspective. And so that's what we're gonna do. We're gonna work heavily today on teaching you this stuff. We'll go over some headlines as well, but I really really want you all to realize that this is possible. And again, as we see all these different, uh, sexual assault cases, like in the case of al Frankin, Listen, let's not mistake this, Okay, that was sexual assault. When you grab a woman who is not wanting to be grabbed and you forcibly kiss her, that is sexual assault. And typically unless you know, well, there's no excuse for it, but you know, you just figured, uh, she's interested and I'm gonna go for it. And this is if this wasn't a date, this was a rehearsal before they went on age. So whether it's Al Franken or anybody else that's in the news talking about sexual assault or talking about unwanted advances, talking about look at Harvey Weinstein and literally physical rape, you have to understand that you can forward think these things if you think you might be in that type of an environment. So let's just talk about this a little bit today. Let's let's talk about and I'm gonna take a ton of calls if you want to call in and tell your story today eight hundred nine four one seven three to six eight hundred nine four one seven three two six. I'm I want you to call in and if you have a story, if it's short enough, I mean, we don't have all the whole hour three hours to tell your story. But I want to hear from you because I want to talk about not just the fact that these things have happened. That's what we talk about in the news. We talk about, this happened to this person, This happened to that person. We talk about North Korea is a problem, we talk about Russia is a problem. We never ever talk about how we forward think these things, and how we prepare ourselves so that we don't have to get into this situation, how we can literally avoid the situation. You know, there's a movie about Churchill that's coming out, and on the commercial there's an incredible quote from him, and I think I can get this right. He said, you don't try to reason with a lion when your head is in the mouth of a lion. Might have said tiger, but it was either line or tiger, and that's the truth. Listen, you don't wait until you're in the environment and hope that you react properly. So, whether we're again, whether we're talking about these weirdos in Hollywood, in Washington, Washington, d C. Whether we talk about craze maniacs around the country or around the world, maybe you're on vacation somewhere else. Whether we're talking about fundamental Islam attacking again and again that's not going away. Whether we're talking even I'll put to you this way, even if you're talking about how people in your job are trying to outmaneuver you for positions, and maybe they're doing some kind of deviant things. I don't want to use the word nefarious. I'm getting I'm being told that I use that word too much. But whether it's nefarious or deviant, you can literally identify these things. It's time for the American people to stop being told that they'll be protected. It's time for the American people to stop accepting the fact that politicians want them to be dependent. It's time for the American people to realize that they can be empowered themselves. You can take care of yourselves. You can watch over yourself. Yes, you can watch over yourself. The way you do that is by understanding who, why, when, where and how you could be attacked. And again, I'm not just talking about physical tax I'm not just talking about sexual attack. I'm not talking about just simply about terrorist attack. I'm talking about all of them. I'm talking about any particular way that somebody can do something to you that is unwanted or in a capacity where they're trying to take something from you. So as we go through this, we're gonna talk in just a little bit. I was gonna hold this, but I've already announced it on social media. Elizabeth Smart is gonna come on at three thirty and talk that alone, folks, that alone is gonna be worth sitting through this show because I watched her special the other night, and if you don't know about her, and I'm gonna go over this again a little bit. You know, when she was fourteen years old, a madman came into her house and took her and for nine months, I believe it was nine months, she was held captive. Yeah, nine months she was held captive by this guy. And uh, a lot of terrible, awful things happened to her, but she was able to keep her mind and keep her wits about her. She knits there were several times where she could have gotten free, but she was not in the right mindset as most people are that this is could actually happen. So I want to talk to her about that, about if she could have changed her mindset, if there's something that she could have done as a young person to prevent this, if she thought it was possible. I remember being in Arkansas and nine years old, nine years old, uh, and being very aware of of the things that we're going on. Often say, you know, it's it's terrible. But children who have um divorced parents are broken family, which I my parents were divorced at a young age. My father died when I was thirteen. That those children see the world in a different way, and so they're actually more prepared. And this is no hit on parents who who do a great job and stay together and who shelter their kids and give and give their kids love and attention. The problem there is that whereas you have a children, it comes from a child that comes from a broken home. They may see the reality of the world and the things the potential of things that can happen. A child that lives in a good home will also have vulnerabilities, and those vulnerabilities could be that they just never ever expect that that could ever happen to them. So I want you to remember these key words. This is in my book Sheep No More, The Art of Awareness and Attack Survival. It's on Amazon right now, you can pre order it. I want you to remember these five key things that we'll talk about all day with all these different people. We're gonna talking about personal level awareness, We're talking about city wide awareness, We're talking about the federal government and the country and awareness. Really it's the lack thereof and how we can get this. But remember these five criticalities, critical areas, critical times, vulnerabilities that can be exploited attackers, avenue of approach, and the overall spectrum of critical of critical assets. Alright, so critical assets, critical areas for those assets, critical times for those assets, the vulnerabilities that can be exploited for all those by the attackers, and the attackers, avenue of approach. I want you to think about all of that as we go through this today. So we're gonna take a break real quick. 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You get off your first order Tommy John dot com slash Hannity twenty percent off. That's Tommy John dot com slash Hannity. This is Jonathan Gilham filling in for Sean Hannity on the Shawn Hannity radio show. You know, he always calls me when he's uh, he's out. I don't know this. This Sean go turkey hunting? Does he do that? He's a New Jersey, he's a New Yorker. I actually I don't know. I don't know why they can go turkey hunting from Arkansas. It's the law. I go back. We have to hunt. So you know, listen, as I started talking earlier there when we started this show, Uh, if you want to call in and talk about you don't have to talk about something that's happened to you, but give your opinion, not just on different types of harassment that have happened or assault that have had happened, or if you've been in a terrorist attack, or if there anything any type of attack, is how did you prepare for that? Were you prepared? Were you not prepared? Um? And I think, UM, I think people are starting to become more aware just by the nature of all the things that tend to happen these days, such as what's going on in washing d C. The different types of sexual harassment. And I think it's very very good that women are starting to come out and and not just feel empowered, but know that the ramifications the more listen. I've often felt and and understood that and said this to people that when you are work in numbers, when you unify and you do things together, the power that you wield is unbelievable. It's greater than any politician, any CEO, any manager will ever have if you face the problems with a unified group. And so as these women start to come out, what's interesting is that it's becoming easier for women to come forward with issues and not expect that something terrible is going to happen to them because they did it. But I do want to say it before I go to the collars real quick. Actually, you know what, We're gonna take a break here in a minute, so let me just do this. Let me say this. I want women out there, if you're listening, I want you to think about this. I came up with this. I talked about it on my own show. I do a show every night called The Experts on Facebook, Live, Twitter, and YouTube at eight pm every night. It's simulcast live. And what I want women to know from a tactical perspective is this, if you don't feel something happens to you, and you don't feel like coming out and telling people that this has happened. Here's what I think that you should the least that you should do, because we've seen here with Roy Moore and with other people coming out thirty forty years later and saying that this happened to them. The court of public opinion is going to be hard pressed to believe that. Sometimes. I'm not saying that that the women aren't aren't telling the truth. I don't know. But what I can tell you is that, in order to protect yourself and your word, if you write down what happened to you in your own legible writing, sign it. If you have a witness, get them to sign it dated. I mean if you have newspaper clippings or something you could put in there as well, that's fine, And then mail it to yourself and that way, and keep it sealed, make it go through the United States Post Office so it has a date and time stamped on it. And so when you get that, you put it in your drawer, and when you feel it's time to come out about this, now you have your own account of what happened from that point in time. And I think that's gonna protect you, and not not just you in your workplace, but in the court of public opinion, because I hate the fact that women get questioned when they come out about this stuff. It also if this was the common thing, it would also protect people that are being accused. Because John the Gillham filled in for Sean Hannity on the Shawn Hannity Radio Show, We're gonna be right back and we're gonna have an incredible interview when we get back. Don't forget go get my book Sheep No More, The Art of Awareness and Attack Survival at Amazon right now, breaking news, straight from the source. This is the Sean Hannity Show. This is Jonathan Gilham. You're good buddy, your Navy steal, former Navy seal, former FBI agent, your resident host for Sirius X and Patriot Channel. And then when Sean needs me to come over here and host for him, I come over and host for him as well. And remember the phone number to calling this eight nine one seven three to six, nine one seven, three to six and the entire show. I'm kind of I've got a book that's coming out December twelve. It's actually available for pre order. It's called sheep no more. The art of a awareness and attack survival, And as I've been telling you about, it's all about trying to divide your sector, your life up into sectors so that you can literally target yourself from an attacker's point of view, and then turn around develop your awareness and your understanding of every single place that you are vulnerable and that vulnerabilities exist, that it can be exploited, and you can also understand the attackers avenue of approach and that will better help you in everyday life and being less paranoid and more aware. And so last week or it was earlier, Yeah, I was last week. I was sitting this past weekend, and uh, I watched the Elizabeth Smart story. I watched she had her her own take on the things, and then they had their movie afterwards. It was absolutely one of the most amazing things I've ever seen. Uh. The first of all, the entire situation that happened, the way the incident occurred, the initial incident, the way it was carried out, the master manipulation by this psychopath of Elizabeth Smart, but also the very fact that as a fourteen year old she was able to sustain her mental capacity and uh, and then talk about it afterwards, and not just talk about it, but talk about what she wishes she could have done better, what she you know, had, what she wasn't prepared for. So I told Lauren, Lauren made the call and we got Elizabeth Smart to come on the show today. So Elizabeth, I can't thank you enough for for coming on here. And I gotta tell you, I I get I'm told all the time, thank you for your service because I was in the military and stuff. But I gotta tell you, thank you for for what you're doing now because of what happened to you. Then. I just can't tell you how many lives you're probably saving and touching by doing what you do. Well. Thanks, Thanks, And you did an incredible job telling your story. And I've also seen your ted talk and UH and you're very poised, which is um I'm telling you, you're amazing. I've seen I've dealt with a lot of people who've been through these things. I guess the question they don't want to start off here is if you could go back. And I know you've talked about this a lot, and you advocate for children and UH and making people aware of young people aware of of how they could uh better themselves and prepare themselves for these types of things. If you could go back at that point, you know, let's say a year before, two years before, at the twelve or thirteen, what do you think you could have done or the school could have done where you go to school, parents could have done or could do that would have prepared you for for this type of potential incident. Looking back, I'm not sure that there's anything that would have prepared me for it or could have prevented what happened. I don't. I can't say for sure, but I do know that UM prevent an education is huge because even if even if I had been through you know, some prevention education and it still happened to me, I would have at least known what my choices were. Because in that moment when I woke up to a man standing above me with the knife at my neck telling me to get up and go with him, I didn't feel like there was a choice to be made. I feel like I did the only thing I could do. And so I think even just having that empowerment of realizing that even in that most dire of situations, I still had a choice, I think that would have been helpful, because I mean, we talk about, you know, fire safety, stranger danger, what to do if you get in an earthquake. We talk about all those kinds of forms of safety. But has anyone ever talked to you about why you should do if someone breaks into your home in the middle of the night and has a knife at your neck. No, and certainly not every circumstance can be covered. Not every scenario can be covered in prevention education, but many of them can. And I agree with you, so I wrote I read this book in One of the reasons where I wanted to have you on here was to get your take on some of this stuff. I think that if we break our lives up into sectors, you can look at some of these different things. One of the one of the things I did is I I look at and this is what I did a lot when I was in the FBI. I ran the Special Events program, So I would look at all the places in New York where there could be a potential attack, and I would look at it from an attacker's point of view. One of the things that I didn't get from your story. You may have said this, I just missed it was how this individual got into the home. So, um, my mom, the excellent cooking that she has, she had actually burnt some potatoes that day. My grandfather had recently passed away and it was the end of the school year, so millions of assignments were do and my family was just sort of trying to regroup as we headed into this summer vacation. And because because of the many things on, my mom had a million things going at once and I am a potatoes hopping to burn. So she opened the window to let it reason. And it was a it was a window. It was fairly high off the ground. I mean, it wasn't just easy jump into the window. It was fairly high off the ground. And it was narrow. It wasn't a big, fat window. And that evening I remember going around the house with my dad locking the doors and closing the windows, and I guess that window just was not closed. It just left a crack open, just to try to continue to get rid of the burnt smell. And that was the window he forced his way in through. And he was aware he had done some work on your house before that, that's correct. He had come to my house once before. Yes, with the sole purpose of finding out where I lived, and and so he was fixated on you before. That was his main goal when he came there was to find out about you. Yes, very interesting. So that's the same thing as as I've talked about with a lot of people. Is that not just this type of psychopathic attacker, um, but pedophiles will slowly work their way into a home and often befriending the family, even even through church or social engagements where they can actually get in touch with the family and uh, and then work their way close to the child. So it may not just be a window, it may be actually a social engagement. Absolutely well. The majority of kidnappings that take place, they're not strangers. There are people that you know, whether it's family or someone within that circle of trust, a friend, community leader, or religious leader. I mean, unfortunately, stranger danger is as great as that is. Your kids might be better off with a stranger rather than the people you know. Not kind of terrible that I just said that, no, but it's but it's the case. I actually have investigated cases of most kidnappings. Uh. I wouldn't say most, but a great vast majority of the kidnappings are domestic kidnappings where uh either in a strange parent sometimes you even have um people that were stepparents will then go back and kidnap these children. It happens all the time, all the time, and that's the scary thing. I mean, I think that's why it's so important that we do have prevention. We do try to approach us from every side, every angle possible, through through home, through church, through school, and and not just think, oh, well, we'll teach them this when they turned ten or when they turned twelve or eight. I think I have to be an ongoing conversation. In fact um, a couple of years ago, I was interviewing two young women who they had both been ranked their freshman year of college, and because one was by a boyfriend and the other one was by a friend, neither one of them knew to call what had happened them to them rape. And that's how we've stuck with me. So my foundation, the Elizabeth Smart Foundation, we've started something called Smart Talks where we are working with universities to come in and have a open, frank conversation about exactly what rape is, what sexual islences, where it can come from, how to effects you, how your body reacts, how your mind reactsing, and hopefully well you can turn to for help. We just had our first one. We had at by U in Utah, and we had about a thousand people show up. And I think that's just I mean, that's right there, proof of how needed this is, how much interest there isn't it. Yeah, And I can't help but say that all these women, the strong women that are coming out and uh, Lauren, the sexual allegations you see on television, whether it be Hollywood or d C, they are they're adding to the strength of women and just people in general to say that you know this has happened to me, or I don't want this to happen. And um, you know I tweeted out to your foundation right after I watched your show that I believe your show, whether it be the movie or the part where you gave an account of what happened. I don't remember which one came on first. I think your account came on after the movie. Um, but that should be shown in school. I think every year people should see you this so that they are aware of the potential of these things. Well, well, thank you, Um, that's extremely kind of you to say so, but it's quite proud of it. But it is very important. I mean, whether it's you know, watching watching my show, or just having these frank, open conversations, because every now and then, you know, there'll be a high profile case that will come to the media and we'll all talk about it for a minute and then and then I'll kind of die away as soon as the next big story comes along, and it just kind of gets forgotten by the by the wayside, And that's not enough. We need to have these ongoing conversations. We can't allow them to forget. I mean, at the at our first smart talk, UM, I just had multiple multiple women come forward to me and disclosed to me how they didn't feel like they could ever be loved again. They were scared to get into relationships again because they felt that they were damaged goods, that what had happened to them with somehow their fault and now they out and moved forward from it. So not only should we be addressing this from a preventative side, but we should also be addressing it from a human side, UM and help people to realize that another person's actions cannot take away your worth as an individual. Because that was That was probably the most heartbreaking thing for me that evening that we had our smart talks. It wasn't me, you know, talking about my story or talking about things that are generally hard to talk about. It was afterwards hearing girls coming up to me saying that that they had been abused and that they couldn't make friends, or that they wanted to have a boyfriend but they were too scared too, or how do you talk about it with a significant other? So um, I think it needs to be approached from all sides. How did you do that? You know? I noticed one thing also in your show was that you didn't appear as a victim. You appear to somebody that had a traumatic thing happened, but you didn't look at it from a victimized standpoint. I found that fascinating. And when you talk about now you're married and you have kids, how um you and you were able to date? How did you keep from going into that victim mindset? Chirst of all, that is my son in the background. That's all right now, he's got plenty of safe don't mind him. Um No. When I was kidnapped, I mean I was very much that little girl who dreamed of meeting or prince Charming and you know, getting married and living happily ever after and having a family and all that entails. I mean, that was very much me before I was kidnapped. And when I was kidnapped, I felt like all of those dreams and hopes for my future had been ripped away, and I remember when I came home, I felt like they'd all been given back. Now, I think, had I been in a culture where arranged marriages were common, or where I don't know, it's not uncommon to have extreme marital apps um in age, I think I think those things probably very much would have affected me. But I came home. I was only fifteen, so I was able to go back. And I mean, you couldn't never truly reclaim everything that's been taken from me once you've been kidnapped and sexually assaulted. But he was much of an extent as I could. I did, and I was able to go through those experiences of you know, holding the boy's hand for the first time, and going on my first date and eventually having my first kiss. And it was almost ten years from the time that I was kidnapped to the time that I actually got married. And so I think that was an important time period for me to grow and mature and experience more parts of life and different relationships until ultimately I was ready to get married. And um, I think that's process. Yeah, And I think that's been true a lot of things. And I've seen how um well, I've just I've come to learn and appreciate and be continually humbled and amazed at just how many people, uh did pray for me and did search for me. And as I was able to heal and grow, I realized that this is something that I can do to say thank you, and not only to say thank you, but something that I feel very strongly about, very passionate about that I want to see change happened because I know how terrible it is to be kidnapped. I know how terrible it is to be sexually assaulted and abused. Listen, Unfortunately, I gotta I gotta cut it there because we have to go to a break. But I will have you back on any show that I'm hosting. And I want to get a copy of my book to you as well, and so I'll be in touch with you. Okay, sounds great, you got it. And so and also I want to tell everybody that You're a book is coming out as well, where there's hope. It comes out in March and they can follow you on face and Instagram and Facebook and in Elizabeth Smart. I can't thank you enough for all you're doing for the young people out there. We appreciate it. Thank you so much. God bless have a great Thanksgiving. This is Jonathan gill And filling in for my good buddy Shawn Handy on the Shawan Handy Radio show. Call in numbers eight hundred nine four one seven three to six eight hundred nine f one Sean, I'm gonna be taking your calls for the next thirty minutes, all right, So I want calls. I want to know. You don't have to tell me your story, but if I want to hear from people, if something happened to you, how what would you have done differently to prepare yourself for this. You don't have to give me your name, and if you you know, I just want to hear some more information. I want everybody else to hear it so we can be more prepared for Thanksgiving. We'll be right back here in just a minute. If you haven't gone out and ordered my show, my book. Go to Amazon and get sheet No More of the Art of Awareness and Attack Survival. And remember I do a show every night eight pm Eastern Standard Time on YouTube, Facebook, and Twitter. It's called The Experts. Right now, you're gonna be experts. Call in. This is Johnathan Gilham building back in for Sean Hannity day before Thanksgiving. And I can't think Sean and Linda and Lauren and Ethan and everybody else. There's like, I don't know fifty people that work back here. It's like a massive, massive organization of people. Two people sitting here right now. Well, yeah, okay, so there's two us. I'm just trying to make it, you know, seem like it's listen, it's a well oiled machine. I'll give you that. They out of all the teams that I've ever worked with, this is the type of place. I know. This sounds like I'm kissing up, but they have me on here anyway, so I don't have to kiss up anymore. It's the type of place where you want to come to work. And so many people that um that work in different environments and entertainment industry or whatever they in news and media, they don't necessarily look forward to come into work. And I think a lot of it starts with Sean. It just works its way down the way that everything is set. If you're a manager and you're out there listening to this, you need to stop for a second and think, why do people not like you? I'm not saying I mean, first of all, you need to find out people don't like you. If you're a manager, probably people are not gonna like you either you're you're a good manager, which there is always gonna be people don't like you, or maybe you should start setting the example. Uh, and and help people want to show up to work. You know, that's listen. I'm kind of getting off the subject here, but but that's the case everywhere I've ever worked. And I've worked in four different federal agencies, one state agency it's UM, and now working in different entertainment. Uh. I keep saying entertainment. It's really news and radio, but it's really entertainment. But so let's I tell you what we're gonna do. I saying we're gonna go to some calls today, and I want to go. I want to start with UM. Let's start with Mark and Lancaster Pennsylvania because not only women. You know, there's all this talk about women who are being sexually assaulted in the UH, in the news, or that these things are going on. We got to realize this can happen to other people. Down in Tampa. There's been seven roman killed by this serial killer, so this can be UH something that happens to men as well. So Mark, you say you were jumped, what exactly happened? Well, sir, good afternoon. I was stationed in the Republic of Korea at the time. I was based out of soul at young So on their on main post, and we didn't have a lump room in all the barracks, so I got put downtown. Had an apartment. So one night I got off working about two am. I've been getting ready for an IG inspection all day, so I've been up since like four in the morning. I was tired walking back to my apartment and all of a sudden, Korean gentleman steps side in front of me asked me from a wallet, and I wasn't going to give it to him, so he tried. He tried, He tried to cordial approach at first. Would you please give me your wallet? I wouldn't. I wouldn't say it was exactly polite. You know, he's pretty right. Straight to the point. I told him basically not only no, but hello, and get out of my way. And then I got hit from behind. So the next thing you know, you know, I was on my face and there's several people there using me for a soccer ball. So this is this is a group of people. Yes, sir, So I was pretty fit, you know. Back then, I business. I was in my early twenties, worked in the motor poole. I could yank a winch off front of one of those five ton trucks. Back then, I was just quite an animal, and all I thought was these guys are gonna kill me for my wallet. So even though I had taken kung food for about a year and a half, I had martial arts training, you know, I worked out in spart all the time. All that went out the window, and all I knew was these guys are gonna try to kill me. So I just went I want animal. I knew I was fighting for my life, so I was able to and I to this day, I couldn't tell you how I got back on my feet, and I just started pulling at him, punching at him. I gave him everything I had. It was this pure animal survival and I got one of their ears and it was It wasn't pretty, I guess from them screaming and yelling because I was wailing on them, they took off, and I think the only reason I survived was because I didn't hold anything back. So let me ask you this mark when so you were in the military. I guess correct, that's where you were there. So thank you for your service first off, And do you do you think that even in the military. I think this is uh, something that people think, because you know, I was in the military as well, that force protection is just going to be something that we automatically know that you're not gonna be put in harm's way. But you know, like you said, you you were put off base. What do you think that you could have done differently? Or let's say you, I mean the military, uh, and inevitably could always done something differently, But what do you think you yourself from a targeting perspective, what could you have done differently? That would be the lesson that you would teach people, not the fact that you fought them off because you know there's actually tell you truth. Um, I'm glad you did, but there's a lot of people who aren't going to be strong enough to fight somebody off. What would you have done differently, um, to actually look at this from a critical standpoint and say this may be a critical area and me going to and from work maybe a critical time. What could you have done differently to maybe avoid that? Well, first and foremost, I would have raised my level of situational awareness. I think I grew complacent even though there was those type of petty crimes that went on all the time. I would say number two, I should have taken probably some different routes back and forth to work. I got into a pattern, I you know, got comfortable. I thought it was okay. Uh. And it's just as soon as that individual stepped in front of me, I should have been aware that there may have been somebody behind me. I just I was tired, I was run down, but I let down my guard and I set up a pattern. And I think that's what the attack. Well, they know, you know people typically is as I've been talking about all day, is that bad guys. It doesn't matter if it's uh, somebody's gonna rob you if it's somebody that's gonna break into your house, whether it's a pedophile or whether it's a you know, you're facing an enemy on the battlefield, or even you know as a seal and an FBI agent. We build target packages. That's what That's what attackers do. If you if you alleviate or get rid of you know, bad guy, good guy, and you say attackers, all attackers will build some sort of a target package. And I can guarantee you that these people knew that where base housing off base housing was and the routes people would take, and they know that people get complacent, and that's how they knew who to look for. They knew, um, you know what days to target you and so once over a lot of times they'll target people around pay day. So yeah, you're absolute right. Complacency is one of the most uh self imposed vulner biggest self imposed vulnerabilities that we have as a human being. You don't see UH antelope on the planes of Africa hanging out with lions and being complacent. They're always on alert. Absolute we listen, We're glad. I'm glad that you made it through that, and thank you for sharing that um and uh and letting people know that you know how important there's complacency issues is. And God bless you and thank you for your service and have a great Thanksgiving. Let's go to Colleen and Wisconsin. Hi, thank you for having me on the show. Interesting conversations. It's sad for my kids been they're older, young adults now, um, but I've always made them quite aware to be responsible, especially my daughter. Not my son's no how to respect women, but my daughter knows how to respect yourself. And I think I'm gonna put some pressure now on women for once, because you're not hearing this enough. I think women need to take response ability of themselves and their bodies. We want to be equal to men, well, to be equal to men. You're you're not going to get it because we're completely two different creatures, two different types of people. And I look in the workplace and I remember in the eighties when I was young, a guy coming up to me, Hey, toot toot, banging his hand on the counter, wanting my attention. And I looked at him firmly and I said, you want service, you will call me miss or ma'am. And he knew right then and there I meant business. I think the sad thing today is with Hollywood what they're depicting women to be and become a really sad my kid, my my daughter, for one, How could she measure up to that? And do I wanted to measure up to that? I mean, do I want her to feel that she gets empowerment bisexual looks and and what she says, or to look perfect. I almost kind of wonder in situations like the ones that are being called upon it now, not all of them. And I'm not talking about the ones that were kids being offended by these sex offenders or by someone like l Franken when someone's asleep. I'm talking about I want that job. I'll do anything to get that job. What are these women doing? I want to hold them accountable to you want to be respectful or get respect to dress respectful, don't be dressing like you're walking in the streets. I mean, we've gotta start holding ourselves accountable as women as well. I mean that's that's important too. I mean I don't like to defame someone. You have to look at all counterparts here. You gotta take it apart and say, Okay, what are we doing if you want to change the culture, We're going to write steps start looking at ourselves. Yes, how are we going to change the culture. It's interesting because on the other shows that have hosted as well, I'm getting more calls. I'm not getting any calls from men saying what you're saying, because quite frankly, I don't think men are going to put themselves out there to be slaughtered if they said that. It's interesting because the calls I've gotten from women, they are saying that more and more that UM not saying that people in the way that they dress that they ask for it, but especially with the case of people in certain career fields where they identify like Harvey Weinstein was known for this, and yet they still allow themselves to be put into that position instead of trying to maneuver that. Why did that woman allow that al Franken to touch her butt or touch her breath for that quotes for that picture? Did they give her empowerment? Like I'm gonna be there's gonna be more pressed out there for me if I do this. I kind of think, Okay, maybe you're in the wrong. Women, you're in the wrong because what you're allowing the wrong and what you're allowing my daughter to think is acceptable, or any young women out there that thinks it's acceptable isn't. Yeah, let me let me let me say. Let me say this though about Leon Tweed. You know, I think she gave ample warnings to al Franken, and then al Franken came on strong the other thing when she was asleep. I don't care if you're comedian or not. That's unacceptable. And that's no excuse that I'm a comedian. You know, I do agree with you that women should um be aware of the positions that they're putting themselves in. I don't know about the dress and all this stuff. I'm not somebody who can judge somebody based on what they're wearing and stuff. And I truly believe that no matter what somebody is wearing, it doesn't matter. If they walk into an area and people are and somebody feels the need to to demean them or have power over them, that has nothing really, the truth is, has nothing to do with what they're wearing. Um, if somebody is going to do that, they're going to be that kind of person that's gonna cat call or hit on or or not. Just ask somebody out, but continuously go after somebody to the point where they have to get, for instance, a restraining order. I mean this is this is that that's the fact is that awareness is key all the way around in all of this. And if we are aware, and you're aware of your surroundings and you think like an attacker, you're going to be able to determine who these people are. Ultimately, that's what's gonna and then you'll know how to act, not just react. This John than Gillum, we're gonna take a break right now, calling numbers eight nine one, seven three to six, eight nine one, Sean, We're gonna come back. Got a good call from russ And in Virginia about churches. I've been waiting to talk about this as well. Don't tune out, stay tuned in. You're gonna learn a lot on today's show. We're getting away a little bit from all these news headlines, but we'll cover some of that as well. And go get my book, Sheep No More, The Art of Awareness and Attack Survival. It's available right now on Amazon for pre order. We'll be right back the Land of the Free because of the prey the Sean and show. Yeah, This is Jonathan Gilding filling in for Sean Hannity, and we're talking today about awareness and with all these different things going on, terrorist attacks, uh, sexual assaults, all these different things, I felt its important, especially before Thanksgiving the holidays, to come on and talk about awareness and real quick because I'm not gonna have very long before another break. Let's go to Russ in Virginia to talk about, um, the church security. Go ahead and Russ, what's your question? Hey j G, how are you doing? I I just wanted to say that, uh, my church is got me doing security for them, and I'm trying to teach those that haven't handled a weapon to also be aware and that it may be one of their final things to do is to pick up that weapon. And I don't want them to be afraid of it. We have several people who carry and uh we're we're having training sessions with the weapons and target practice because if you don't use it, you lose it. You know. Here's here's one thing you're working with them, and I'm just wondering if there's anything else that I can do to uh get them more aware of their surroundings. Absolutely, you know, Russ one of the things I'm limited on time here. One of the things that you can do is you can identify the critical areas where some an attacker could come from, UM, although it could be just inside the church and somebody stands up and does something the other so people need to realize that's the whole congregation needs to realize this. They also your congregation needs to know how they should act. Just simply lying on the ground is not gonna cut it. If somebody comes in there and they start shooting and they're able to get off rounds and then they start to reload or they hide, you know it's time to fight or escape and evade. Of ade means you're gonna go from cover and concealment to cover and consume until you can work your way out of that. The other thing I would really highly recommend is that you all purchase air soft guns UM, similar to the pistols that you all have, and then UH has set up you know, some role players to come in there and have have some role playing scenarios where they can actually draw the weapon and shoot at the person coming in with the air soft gun, and that is huge. You were not gonna believe how big that is when it comes to actually getting the mindset that you're gonna need. The other thing is, you know a good friend of mine owns vets Man Veterans Mannufacturing. That's vets MFG dot com. And he's got back packs that have ballistic shields in them and all kinds of different things. And you can go on there. It's Vet's m f G v t S m f G dot com and you can you can put in this code. You'll get a discount. It's uh j t G ten. But I would recommend that building the awareness and then also practice, because not just target practice, but actually shooting when you're under stress, and you can do that with air soft and actually um and actually have a good outcome. Remember, awareness is the key in all of this. This. John the Guillen will be right back for more on the Sean Hannity Radio Show eight hundred nine for one, seven three to six nine for one. Sean, go get my book Sheep No More The Art of Awareness and Attack Survival, and Amazon will be right back. You don't want to talk to Sean Hannity, check him out on Twitter. You can find him under at Sean Hannity. This is Jonathan gil I'm filling in from my buddy Shawan Hannity on the Shawan Hannity Radio Show. Calling number is eight hundred nine four one seven three to six eight hundred nine for one seawan. For those of you like to spell numbers, I always like to say, that's my little that's my little thing spelling numbers. People spell that. We don't have rotary phones anymore. I don't even know why. Anyway, people like to have options. So here we've been talking all day about UM awareness and how important it is. You know, I'm calm when I talk about it because I deal with this stuff a lot, right, So you're not gonna hear me getting all amped up in these stories and telling this stuff because I've dealt with this stuff. And the FBI when I ran the special events program sounds like like I'm putting on parties. That's not what it was. I was the guy who went around the city and identified areas that could be targeted, and I did operate orders and threat threat assessments for large events they would have a huge draw like the Macy's Day Parade, or small events that may still have a large draw, like when Glenn Beck did his first UM. His first UM, it was like almost like Facebook Live, but it was on the internet. It predated the Blaze, and it was right next to Times Square. So I was constantly evaluating things from an attacker's point of view so that I could identify, um, the critical areas that they would attack, uh, the critical times for those areas, the vulnerabilities that they would exploit in the attackers avenue of approach. And that's what I want you all to continue to concentrate on and what the critical assets are that they will be going after. Right, So if it's a if you are uh, the facilitator in a mall, or you may be looking at the food court as a critical area, and of course there's gonna be certain times in that food court is full, those are critical times. If you work in a high rise building, your air conditioner maybe the the critical asset that they're wanting to attack, um, because they're wanting to maybe somebody wants the day off. I don't know. It's not always that nefarious. But let me just tell you this. The next guest that I have on here, he's joining me now, Mason Wells unbelievable. So you're and you're an author. Uh, Left Standing is the miraculous story of how Mason Will survived. I'm not gonna you're not even gonna believe this when I tell you. The book's called Left Standing. He survived the Boston terrorist attack, Paris terrorist attack, and the Brussels trorist attack. So, first of all, um, I don't know if you want to go into your career field now where you're at. I don't know if you're allowed to do that. Oh yeah, we can, we can go into them. Okay, So you're in the Naval academy, so you've been screening to make sure that you're not with ISIS. Yeah, I submitted my background check if that's how you're asking. Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah. So um, I'm just joking with you there, but I will I will tell you this is pretty interesting that you happened to be at all these places. Now, what particular was it just anddem circumstance that you happen to end up with these things? Where you running the marathon? On one? Were you spectator? I'll go into that. So with with Boston, my mom was actually in the Boston Marathon and me and my dad were heading back towards the finish line, actually trying to find her because she finished the race before we got back there, And we were about fifty to seventy meters away when the first bomb went off in Boston. Um, afterwards, when the attacks and Paris happened, during the Charlie Charlie Hebdo shooting, I was actually in Ruan, and then during the Paris bombings, I was actually Callis. I was outside of Paris at the time. I can't say that being over there left me with a lot of reflections about, um, you know these sorts of events, Why God allows these things to happen, you know what, why do good things bad things happening good to people? Those sorts of questions. And then with Brussels, I was about ten feet away when the first Brussels Airport bomb went off. Wow, that's just listen, there's certain things that you can't say that's a coincidence. I don't think it's a coincidence. I think the fact that you were so close to these Um, hopefully he's doing this too so that you can tell the story about this. Well. Yeah, there's certainly a lot of things that I've learned. And we did screen the building today, right there, we locked it down, actually heightened security. Now as long as you're right next to me, you're fine. Um, But no, it's it's It's definitely left me with a lot of questions. It's most people don't experience one tirist attack, letlo multiple bombings, right, and I I've definitely contemplated what that means for me. Ultimately. This book and what what we what we wrote and what I wrote, UM gave me a chance to to put everything out there and to share my story and to to provide a little bit of hope to people. And that's why I did this in the first place. Let me ask you this. It was their differences in the atmosphere before and after the attack happened. For each place, was there something similar? Yeah, so it's actually interesting. I can look and see the differences as well as the similarities and everything that I've experienced. When I was embossed in the response happened fairly quickly, within one to two minutes. You had a police cars, ambulances, everything sushing to the scene, almost running into people, pedestrians standing still as they tried to We've added these massive groups of people playing the scene. Um. When came to Brussels, though the response was a lot lower. I mean it took me three hours to finally leave that airport in an ambulance to the hospital. So if you can imagine, I'm sitting there with third degree burns, shrapnel, um, you know, a ruptured achilles tendon, wounds to the point where I couldn't even get up and walk, and I'm out there in the colt for about three hours. It was a long it was a long ride, and it certainly left me with lofe time to contemplate. So and where were you during the Paris attack? During the Paris attacks, I was outside of Paris when when they happened, and Paris was the city we were in regularly. I had been in northern Paris the week before the attacks. And um, those those attacks left a lot of the French people as well as us with with questions and people were angry, people were scared, and those reflections are in the book, and that's why I put it in there. So out of I know you were injured in the Brussels attack the airport, But which one would you say affected you the most? Did they all affect you in different ways? Well? Yeah, and I Boston I think definitely shattered some of the innocence that I had about the world. Right. I was sixteen at the time, and I was really confused as to what was going on. Once I realized it was a bomb, Uh, that was that was That was scary for sixteen year old. Um. By the time Brussels came around, I damnit, I just said, there's I mean, I kind of I had accepted and this isn't a good thing, but I kind of accepted the terrorism just happens wherever you go, and that should yeah, well it shouldn't be the new normal, right, it shouldn't be the new normal. And when I got to Brussels actually being severely injured, UM, it made me realize that there is, uh, there's there's definitive good and definitive evil in this world, and the people to perpetrate these acts of violence are evil people, and we can't we can't. We have to stand up to that. Here's something that I want you to take the heart in this because I've still you know, studied this quite a bit and it was part of my field when I was in the FBI. Yes, people, I like to look at at these fundamentalist these Islamic fundamentals. First of all, we have to call them for it is. It's is fundamental Islam. It's not radical Islam. It's the same Islam that is practiced by Mohamed four years ago. So the reality is the people. There's a lot of people that um. I would say the majority of people who actually commit jihad in the name of Islam have are very religious people. They're just following something that or they've been twisted in a way where they go down this evil path. But I have to say, like most people who were part of cults, they may not be evil people, but what they believe in and what they've been led down is an evil thing, and that is scared more scary than an evil person. An evil ideology will literally cloud the judgment of millions of people for over a long period of time, versus an evil person who will do, like in a mass shooting, something very evil for a short period of time, and it's that person. Well, one thing I will say is as as a an ecclesiastical missionary for my church, I was out on the roads talking with people every single day. That's what we did. And I think that the people that did these horrible acts in Europe don't represent uh the feelings of most of the people, uh, the most of the islam or Muslim people that I met uh walking the roads. Um. That being said, we we can't dismiss these acts of violence. It's not okay. Just even I was able to forgive and get past that and move on with hope. And um, you know, I hope most people with that are involved in these attacks can but that doesn't make what they do dismissible dismissable. I mean, we we have to fight this. And you can forgive all you want, doesn't mean that it's going to stop on their part. Yeah, and um, you know the book, let me say that's one thing forgiveness. UM. I hear this a lot in missionaries. I'm Baptist, and so people go down range our call it to they go to other countries, do missions to help out and stuff. We should never do. Two things. You should never say I'll be protected by God, because God's giving you a protection by making you aware. That's the first thing you have to protect yourself. The second thing is you can't say that, Um, I'm going to forgive this person and then turn a blind eye because like I said, earlier today that one of the quotes from Churchill is that you don't try to reason with a with a line or tiger when you have your head in the lines mouth. You know. So, um, but go ahead, Well, yeah, I was just gonna say that. I'm not going to be one to propose what we should do on a government scale or what nation should be doing. But what I can say as individuals is, you know, kind of rooting out that fear in ourselves is essential to continuing continuing our lives. We can't let these things define us. We can't let these things change how we think about travel, how we think about our families. Ultimately, need to find hope and better times to come. And I think there will be a day when the prevalence of these attacks and these mass shootings slows down, and I hope it stops. I hope to stop soon. But until then, I think we just need to have faith on a higher power and do our best as citizens to be decent people and address it where where we can. Now, let me ask you this, I don't disagree with you there that I mean, that's the way we're gonna that's the way you You're not a Victim's why you continue to keep that mentality. People do need to be aware though, that there are people that wake up and their sole goal in life is to do bad things. There those people the people if you had to ask Elizabeth Smartness just a little while ago, um, we're being inundated by utah ins? Is it utah in? So if you if you had to go back, or if you had the chance to go back and educate yourself from the before the first attack up through the third one, what is something that you would have done to make yourself more aware of the potential and the area that was so critical where these things happened. Because one thing about the attacks that you were involved with is that I could identify in my in my career as a targeting expert, I could clearly identify the end of the Boston marathon where they weren't doing sweeps, they were allowing backpacks. I could say that in Brussels, the attack happened at the arrival, not the departure, correct, it happened to check in lines yeah before security. Um so there's yeah, and security is this is um fake uh uh thing that we think once you get past security, you're gonna be safe. But they think anything around security is gonna be safe. It's not necessarily true. But what are the things that you could have done to increase your awareness that people need to realize? Well, I think one thing is realizing when you're in a large group of people and doing your best too if not stay on the edges, just just plan accordingly, right, just being aware of the kinds of people that are around you. Um, if there's a and this goes for for a lot of different things. When we were in France that we had a lot of manifestations, they're pretty much riots and protests and those kind of erupted out of nowhere sometimes, and so essentially just keeping your head on a swivel, trying to stay away from big groups where you can, and um, like like I said, it's it's a it's a it's just a common sense thing. I don't think we should live our lives in fear of these sorts of things. That being said, um, you know, do your best to keep your head on a swivel and also be know how to respond if something like this happens. Um, if you can give help and you're someone that knows basic first aid, then by all means stay and help somebody, But if you have kids with you, if you know, you're not gonna be able to help, get as far away as possible from the scene. When when I was injured in Brussels, actually at the airport, about forty five minutes after the bombs had gone off, someone started shooting. There was actually an active shooter that hardly anyone ever reported. Another another bad guy, Yeah, a man with the glass room cop. They're shooting people, as people put it, and he he says, we started shooting the people that they were there. Military police took him down really fast. But it's that happened forty five minutes after the initial bombings, right, So you know, don't, yeah, don't don't stand there with your cell phone and film what's going on or take pictures. I mean, it's important that some of these things be documented, of course, but you know, if if you can't help or you know that it's not practical for you to help get get aways, get keep get yourself in a safe spot. It's interesting, well, a lot of the stuff that you're pointing out it's not just individual but citywide level thinking. Right, So like in Boston, you know there could have been more screening beforehand. The response afterwards could have been more um of a tactical response in the way of after the initial attack and after they got the second guy, the mayor goes on and tells everybody, we got them. Well, they don't know who else is involved with that, you know. And in Brussels, uh and and both of these attacks overseas, you saw the slow response, which means that they're not they're not prepared for it the authorities. But overall, the main thing that you said there is groups large groups. You know, there needs to be a better way that the cities mitigate these large groups, and the individual can do that by trying to stay out of those large groups. Yeah. And again I'm not gonna I'm not gonna propose anything on like a state or you will though when you graduate from enabling yeah, hopefully a little a little wiser to UM. Ultimately, I think that we can go a long way to to making the all of this better by just being decent people, by being aware of the people around us, by being since here, by by taking the time to to invest in other people's lives. Um. And then if we can root out some of the this anger and this hate. Um, obviously it doesn't make what they did permissible, but rooting out that anger and that hate that starts with us, and I think that's important. I agree with you. My my take on it is I want to be like Peter in the Bible, where you know I'm a rock, but a little bit more of an aggressive edge called violence of action. But listen, I can't thank you enough. Everybody. You need to go out and get this book. Mason wells Uh. The name of the book is Left Standing, unbelievable story. He was in Boston, Paris and Brussels attacks. Thank you very much, my friend. Can't thank you enough. And be safe. Thank you so much for having me, and exit the building quickly. We'll be right back. This Jonathan Gilham filled in for Seawan Hannity, calling numbers nine, one, seven, three to six. Will be right back. Old inspired solutions for m marrying. This is the Sean Hannity Show. M This is Jonathan Yillham building back in from my good buddy Sean Hannity on the Sean Hannity Radio Show. And man, that was interesting. We have had so many interesting people talking today about different types of things that they've been involved with, whether it be abduction, whether it be terrorist attacks, and uh, this is where I'm wanting people to focus and realized that the fact is it can happen to you. You know, everybody always talks about lottery and they say that, um, I'm not gonna play a lottery because I'm never gonna win that. Well, somebody does eventually win the lottery. Your chances are just as good as their's. So the same thing with an attack. If you just keep saying not me, not me, well eventually guess what it might be you. So why don't we We're gonna take a of the break here to just a second. While we're taking a break, go to Amazon and order sheet No More The Art of Awareness and Attack Survival, and then call in eight nine, one, seven, three to six. I'll be taking your calls eventually. I'll get to those. Coming up next is my good buddy Scott you Linger and Dr Shiva ay Dory. I believe it's how you say his name. This is gonna be incredible. We'll be right back. This is Jonathan Gill. I'm filling in for Shawn Hannity on the Shawn Hannity Radio Show on radio stations all throughout the universe. I believe they even have him on other planets and locations throughout the galaxy. I don't know, that's what I've been told. So next, who I'm gonna have coming up now is my good buddy Scott you Linger and Dr Shiva ayodori Um. Scott you Linger is congressional candidate for Pennsylvania's fifth district. He's a former CIA operations officer and co host of the podcast The Station Chief. You can find him on Twitter at the Stage in Chief. And Dr Shiva, as he's called a k. Dr Shiva is Massachusetts US Senate candidate running against Elizabeth Warren. Uh and uh. I can't thank you guys both enough. So Dr Schiva, you know I had you on David Webb Show with me other day and you just said in passing that you you invented email and when you were at M I T. Which is very interesting because Scott Evener used to work for the CIA where they read all our emails. So that's interesting, right, Yeah, the c I was reading them while I was creating it. Yeah, I mean I actually did it, believe it or not, before I came to M I T. When I was a fourteen year old kid in a small medical college in Rutgers University that you guys probably remember the old days, remembered the secretary of the invoked top box folders, remember the old nomadic tubes. I converted that to the electronic form called it email, got the first U S copyright and wrote fifty thousand lines of code before I came to M I T. But that was the first email system. We're not talking about text messaging. Yeah, and Scott, you're running four. I'm sorry, I I said this wrong. Pennsylvania's fifth aint the district. I think I said fifth. It's um the the incumbent, the incombent congressman decided to follow the path of leaking Corker and not seek re election because he's basically blocking the Trump agenda. Yeah, well, let me ask you. So the reason I want to have you guys on together because I know you, Scott. I talked to you Dr Shiva last week or two weeks ago, and you both are not establishment people. You are you are both individuals who are experienced freethinkers, and you have the three big the big three things that make up wisdom, which we have none. And it seems like in Washington, d C. That's knowledge, understanding and experience. And you all are leaders in your field. How do you I guess the question, Scott, I'll start with you when when you go to Washington, d C. And you will you will be there, What do you feel like is gonna be your biggest hurdle because you're gonna be in You're really gonna be in an environment that is not an environment of your peers. Yeah, that's correct, I mean I think, uh, I mean, the job number one is going to be to drink, do my best by the people in my district and and basically fight a lot of the corruption that we see all around in forms of you know, the deep state and um, what's going on now with you know, the ongoing saga of uranium one and uh, you know, fusion, GPS and and things like that. The people are just tired and they want the swamp to be dreamed. You have to start somewhere, So I'd like to start with things like that. And what about you, Dark Shiva. Well, you know, it's interesting in Massachusetts if you look at the facts, Massachusetts was rated the lowest in public integrity, which means the best in corruption. The third highest UH, then the national average and opioid addiction and the worst infrastructure. And if you look at that, that was all brought to you by um, you know, the parties of Elizabeth Warren and that never Trump re Republican Charlie Baker and Mitt Romney and all Harvard graduates, by the way, And what's fascinating is Harvard doesn't pay a single dollar in tax. And one of the things we've been asserting really hard is that Harvard is fundamentally a forty five billion dollar uh fake university pretending to be. Essentially, it's a hedge fund. That's what Harvard really is. It's a fake university which is actually a hedge fund. So and on the flip side, in Massachusetts, for every seventeen skilled job opening, is only one person is skilled. And so what you really have created where these guys have created Massachusetts within the swamp is a lot of educated people, quote unquote educated people who are unskilled to take on the twenty one century. So the biggest thing we want to do is unleashed Votex schools here. We want to ensure that we really start skilling America and really recognize that down the street is where all the nerds are. Thirty three thousand businesses came out of m I T two trillion in revenue for the entire nation in terms of annual revenue being generated. So it's time that everyday working people, blue collar, high tech, blue collar workers, every day people actually run this country. And that's what our campaign is about. So with that being said, that's a great segue into this is that how do normal blue collar people run for office? Is there any way that they can do this and not have to subscribe to the establishment mentality? UM? I think I think that that can be done because, um at this point, because now after we have you know, the game has changed somewhat and there are a lot of organizations out there and a lot of individuals who are who seek to who believe in the message, they believe in the president's agenda, and they're willing to support candidates who are willing to go against the establishment and support that agenda. So it's never gonna be easy, but I think for the first time, you know, uh, in many a year, regular people, citizen politicians and blue collar candidates are going to be able to find sources of funding to basically ensure the will of the people is followed, so go ahead, dark Shiva. One of the things, you know, if you look at historically at many of the major face shifts in American politics has always been technology. You know, Uh Roosevelt, it was radio, Kennedy, it was TV. Uh. You know, I don't really care for Obama, but he used social media Trump Twitter, And the next phase is what we call the use of data, warehousing and big data technologies that really help us do targeting, but make it accessible. What's happened is the two parties, the GOP establishment and the Democrats, do not make the data available to everyday independent candidates. That's how they control the entire process of quote unquote democracy in this country. One of the things we're doing, uh, you know, given that I got the four degrees from m IP, started a bunch of companies, We've created an infrastructure that we're running to uh using our campaign that's innovative technology. Part of what we want to do is we want to make that technology accessible to all independent candidates. It's really going to come down to leveling the playing field. You know, the iPhone has leveled the playing field smartphones, and the the level of the playing field it's going to come through technology enabling everyone with very little money to compete with the big guys, and that's what's gonna get very very exciting. So uh, you know, again, it's financially it's going to be difficult for people to compete because in congressional races, for instance, Scott, those used to be in the hundreds of thousands, and as we saw down in UM, was that in Alabama. I think it was this last year where I got into the into the tens of millions for Georgia. That's right. That Georgia, it extended into the it extended into the millions, that's right. So that UM, I guess in a way it's a good thing that you start getting national attention on on local congressional elections, but perhaps along with national attention, you also get an increased need for funding, right, So that's that's something that UM is going to have to be squared away. But fortunately I found some people who were very supportive of my into the sea, and I think they're going to be continuing to be supportive of a lot of other individuals ready for congress across the country, who are you know, willing to stand up against the establishment and ensure that the will of the people is carried through dr she you know what you talked about Harvard for instance. And you know there's when people think of the deep state now, they're they're familiar with this. Uh, they're hearing, you know about whether it be the d O J or the intelligence communities or even in the d D, all these different agencies. I don't think they realize that the deep state extends past washing in d C into these private intews. Yeah. I mean, if you actually look at the history of the deep state, I call it the military industrial academic complexes triangle UM. President Eisenhower talked about in his Farewell addressed and then Holbright talked about it. He called it actually the military industrial academic complex. Eisenhar called it the military industrial complex. That triangle is based on this notion that they are they're the ones who know better than everyone. Elizabeth Warren's part of that. All the establishment is part of that. What's fascinating is that when you actually look at it, though, for example, innovation or technology, most of the greatest innovations and technology do not come out of the military industrial complex. They come from everyday people. You know, you asked about the invention of email. You know, a fourteen year old boys one who invented the first tving of small farm in Franklin, Idaho. A fourteen year old kid invented email. The narrative that the military industrial academic complex likes to put forward is that they're the ones that own everything, and that's why we should so much feel happy that we're funding war as well as sickness, because that's what they profit from. And you know, when you look at Harvard, it's part of that elite industrial complex. Um, these guys actually do not produce a lot when you really look at what they really learn how to do is to move money around. Elizabeth's Warren's part of that. She tries to fake what I call she's part of the not so obvious establishment that she cares for the everyday poor black person, poor white person, the working people. But fundamentally she exists to make sure those people actually want to change stuff get sucked back into the establishment. And that's what's so insidious. You know, it's easy to understand the existing establishment. People like Elizabeth Warren are the more insidious part that are used to basically entrap people to stick on with the establishment. So let me we only got about a minute and a half left before I gotta take a break. Scott will start with you. It's all fascinating stuff. Fascinated that you guys are saying it is it is, and it's and it's particularly interesting that you know that. And and I agree with um with uh dctor Shiva that that it is it is in Academia is definitely part of that complex. So it's it's rather ironic that in UH that US academia is one of the leading is uh in the vanguard of you know, anti anti free speech, um, the anti free speech impetus that we've been seeing across you know, college campus is not just in Massachusetts but everywhere else, you know. And so ironically they a lot of they o a lot of their sources of funding to the government. But yet at the same time they're they're creating this PC or they're the leaders of this PC environment that's making it difficult for people to you know, basically UM, exercise their First Amendment rights. Right, Yeah, it's very interesting. So let me ask you this real quick, UM about thirty seconds, UH, when we got about forty five seconds, what do you think Scott from awareness standpoint, I'm talking about awareness all day today. What can people do to make themselves more aware of this establishment politics that you have? You've been able to figure it out? What how do you think people can figure this out? Well, I guess I guess it's Unfortunately we've gone down the path where we have to kind of follow the Soviet the old Soviet model. You have to you have to read a lot of disparate sources of information and to basically get to assemble the picture of reality that you should be viewing. You can't rely on any one source of information anymore. So basically the Internet has allowed us now at least we can poke around and access different sources and for information to see what is going on around us. So the old days are over, Dr Shiva real quick, um, can do you think there's going to be more people that are capable of defeating the Elizabeth Warren's coming forward or do you think that's it's going to take a while before you get to that point. Well, you know, in Massachusetts, I'm the only one who actually wants to defeat and capable of defeating. And I put in about one point one million dollars in my own money. But more importantly, we're creating a broad based movement. And I think to your earlier question, the biggest way that people can really understand truth from lies is to look at the central principle that nature operates by. Nature is decentralized. Nature never likes the centralized things. And when you start looking at politics and policies, are they for centralization of power or they for decentralization of power back to the people. It's one of the best ways to start a lens that gives us really the ability to understand truth from lies and the establishment versus of people. Look at how nature operates. Wow, that's it. I'll tell you what I couldn't ask for you better guests. Hey, listen, God bless you guys, and and good luck in your Candida seas and I will always be there to support both of you because you're outside of the box. Scott you Linger, congressional candidate for Pennsylvania's fifteenth district and former CIA operations officer and Dr Shiva Aya Dori a k Dr Shiva from Massachusetts running for US in Canada against Elizabeth Warren. Get her out of there. Thank you, guys, God bless you. Have a great Thanksgiving. You got it, You got it. I'll put your stuff out there when we come back. This is Jonathan gill And filling in for Shawn Handy on the Shawan Hannity Radio Show. Go get my book sheet No More The Art of Awareness and Attack Survival. Follow me on Facebook, go friend me, or like me on on Twitter, and let's get this conversation going. We'll be right back. Good to be back in here day before Thanksgiving. I hope you guys are safe as you drive down the road and you're listening and increasing your awareness. I've it was important to come on here today to get this one shot as people would be driving. I knew a lot of people would be traveling today, um or that's their last day at work and they're coming home, and I couldn't think of a better time before the holidays to really try to train your mind in the reality of what's going on in the world. Is where the threats are there all around you now, But you don't have to be paranoid. You can systematically understand and pick out where the critical areas, the critical times for those areas where the vulnerabilities that could be exploited are and where the attackers avenue of approaches. For instance, you know, mass killings don't usually happen at three am when nobody's around. But you go to an outdoor concert in Las Vegas surrounded by tall buildings where sniper could shoot down. That's an easy, identifiable, critical area, and that time is critical when that's happening. And I think if promoters, if law enforcement think this way, they'll be able actually identify where these things could potentially happen, and then they could go in and actually mitigate these vulnerabilities, such as putting spotters or counter snipers on top of buildings. I don't know why they didn't have that, you know, So we got this is something that we can actually do everyday. People can do this. You don't have to be in the military or a seal, you don't have to be in a law enforcement You can do this yourself. And I know this has sounded a little bit like a uh AN infomercial day, but it's not. Honestly, I wrote this book Sheep No More, The Art of Awareness and Attack Survival, and so that I could get it in the hands of every American because I want the people in this country to be empowered. It's gone too long where we've been dependent, where we've been convinced that law enforcement will be there. They may not be there, but you can identify where the attacks may come from and how to mitigate circumstances. This John than Gillum, I'm gonna come back and take some of your calls, and I got a couple of good little stories to tell you about awareness. So stay tuned, go get Sheet No More The Art of Awareness and Attack Survival on Amazon right now. We'll be right back. This is what's right with America. You're listening to the Sean Hannity Show, but today it's Jonathan Yil. I'm filling in for Sean Hannity, my good friend. I hope he's having a great Thanksgiving week along with Linda. And she's out there somewhere in the uh far west of the East. She's in the ether. But you know what she's like, omni present. She's always here even when she's not here. This is very, very very true. Um, listen, there to a heroes. Uh. Sean and Linda are not just um incredible powerhouses on the in the radio field and in the news field, but there realistically two amazing people that do so much for so many people, and so I'm very thankful that uh I met Sean on the set of his show back in two thousand and thirteen. I'm very grateful and thankful that I got to come over and be a part of this team with Linda and everybody else back there. It just it's just a great place to come and be a part of. So I'm very thankful for that. Now I'm gonna take a couple of calls here real quick, and then i want to talk about a couple of stories about awareness. It's gonna kind of throw you for a little bit of a loop here, because I'm telling you, awareness is one of the biggest, uh most important things that we have lost in this country. We just have lost a complete awareness. Before I even go to the callers, so I do want to say that one of my listeners from my show, some poeople who takes part in the dialogue on the experts. I do that every night eight p m. Eastern Standard Time on Facebook, Twitter and YouTube. And her name is Petya. She is I think I'm saying her name right. And she is from Bulgaria and she was over there when it was a communist nation. Some of the stuff that she has to say is incredible. And like all my other friends that came from communist countries, they see some of the same things going on in this country that they saw over there. And that's because they're aware of this. They're aware of the reality of what UH communism UH can do, They're aware of the characteristics of it, and so they see these things happening. Anyway, I just want to say hello to her son. UH. I think his name is Merrick Wolf and UH and I hope I'm saying your name not right, Merrik is that he wrote a list um of who he would want to have at his uh his birthday party. I leave it was and Uh, I made the list of one of the special guests that he would want to be there, although he did put me at number ten. Thank goodness, I made it at number ten because the list stopped at number ten, so bad. Yeah, I'm right below Mike and and a couple other good guys, I guess though. Thank you very much listening. If I can get to Florida, I will make sure that I get there. And thank you to all my friends and UH and listeners and part of the Constitutional quick reaction for us. That's what the people that follow me and that take part in the dialogue and that stand for the Constitution. They're part of the hashtag c q U RF. So if you're on Twitter or Facebook, always hashtag sk you r F. There's no membership. You believe in the Constitution. You're a part of it. Let's go to uh Burbank, California. Let's go to Rhonda. Hey, how are you, Rhonda? You're there. I'm good. I'm just calling to Alexia. Uh your listeners in a chip. That's I think helped me a lot to overcome being um a victim. And that's just looking at people square in the eye. If you're walking down the road or the sidewalk or the mall or wherever, when someone's passing you look him in the eye, acknowledge that you see them. That deters a large percentage of people from from attacking you. Just just a simple little looking and wave high how you doing? Just anything to uh knock them off their game, because they want to catch you unaware. And if they if they see you looking elsewhere and all around like oh I don't see you, like I'm invisible, they will. You're a perfect victim. You are making yourself a victim. So just let people in the eye. That will stop. And I learned that from the Houston Police Department one time when they came out to give us some safety clues. You know, it's interesting you say that because I was just watching a video I think it was in Miami. There's a girl walking down the sidewalk and she actually has a pistol and she has conceilled weapons carry permitting. She had the pistol in her purse, and there's a guy walking across the street right towards her, but she doesn't make eye contact with him, and she's not, you know, clutching her purse. And he comes up, pulls out his own gun, pistol, whips or and steals her purse. So you know, you have to be aware. It's just because you make you know, a lot of people, especially in New York, they don't want to make eye contact with people. But if you're especially if you're walking down the sidewalk alone. Um, you have that concealed weapon carry permit for a reason, and you should be able to get to it. But before you even do that, you should be able to identify the person as they're approaching you. I don't. I really don't think she she had an idea of what was getting ready to come. Absolutely, I think that. I think the key here is they are looking for a victim. And if you just by looking at them and acknowledging I see you they're you're not making yourself a victim anymore. You've already got the upper hand on them. They like to be It's like they like to text people when they're in a surprise, right, and a lot of women do this. You walk down the street, you'll notice a lot of women looking everywhere, but if the person coming towards them. I don't know why they do that. It's almost a submissive act. I don't understand it. But I look at everybody when I'm walking in right. That's good, that's good. Hey, listen, God bless you, Rhanda, have a great Thanksgiving, and you got it. I'm gonna let's see, I'm gonna take uh, I'll take one more call. I gotta tell a story here real quick. Let's go to Steve and Illinois. Goad Steve, Uh, I'm calling. I want swift justice. My formula formulas stops repeat offenders, which is quite often for the American people. Everything you're talking about sounds well and find sir, But the bottom line that seems never talked about is executing these perpetuators instead of the taxpayer housing and feeding these pieces of garbage. Good examples of Boston bomber. He should be hung on national TV at the very least, but to death in some form or another. Do you not agree? Well, I think Texas sets the standard of way I believe justice should be. Texas doesn't waste time for it is very similar um. When they identify somebody who's done such a heinous act, um, they they take them out. They you know, they no longer a citizen of the United States, They're no longer a citizen of the earth at that point. And but Texas is um, they're quick with their justice. Unfortunately, you know, Steve, you live in Illinois, and people in Boston again very liberal New York, very liberal. Majority of these large metropolis areas around the country are very liberal, uh, and very dependent on the government and on law enforcement. And so they get into a weird mindset of of forgiveness or they're getting a weird mindset of you know, twisted morals and let's not kill this guy, you know, because uh, you know, it's okay to kill a child in the womb and have an abortion, but we don't want to, you know, kill this person that committed this act and literally killed people. So it's it's really were weird, twisted type of mentality that's been drilled into a lot of people's heads. And I really literally think it has a lot to do with the left, and it has a lot to do with the larger cities. You don't see this in the more rural areas in their way of thinking the United States. I totally agree with you, But here's the problem. The United States has been subverted um by what I believe is communists, uh subversives, and they have worked their way into the educational system, into Hollywood. They've worked their way, as we were talking about earlier with Dr Shiva, into the UM, the Ivy League schools, and all the universities. They're definitely in the Democratic Party. I believe they're in the Republican Party as well. And then that's a big problem is that most people are just not aware that communism is still a real thing and that subversion is a real thing. They're just not aware of it and and all this stuff, Steve is just a way to to divide us. Ultimately, thank you very much, you got it, and God bless you have a great Thanksgiving. UM. So real quick before we go to a break here in just a minute, I want to tell everybody this real quick story about awareness. Um off the topic of being attacked. But here is something again in this this book sheep no more of the art of awareness and attack survival. You can actually use the techniques that I each in this book, UH to go far beyond just avoiding an attack or being aware of where your threat is. You can also if you're if you're in a very dangerous job, or if you have certain aspects of your life that may be more dangerous, you can identify those areas by looking the same way of where you're vulnerable. UM, what these critical areas and critical times are. And in the case of my uncle Fred Goodall, who is one of the most amazing preachers, UM and amazing men that God ever created in up in northern Arkansas. And everybody knows and would say this, UM, you know he is an amazing, amazing man who grew up thinking he was a horse. Finally, decided he was human and decided to become a preacher. And he um. They got stories about him thinking he was a horse when he was younger, but he um, he was ray. He and his wife have been looking after his grandson. I think it's his great grandson, Lucas Lucas Goodall. Lucas was eleven or is eleven, and this just happened within this month. My uncle and Lucas were out um cutting down some trees on their property. And uh, my uncle Fred Goodall had taught Lucas at eleven years old, how to use a chainsaw. He bought him a smaller chainsaw so he could practice on this thing again, teaching empowerment to the children, teaching them how to be aware of teaching them that they are capable, fully capable. So he bought him a smaller chainsaw that he could practice on this thing. They go out, they're cutting this tree down, and unfortunately my uncle, he's in his seventies now, still charging her. I think he's starting to believe he's a worse again now in the seventies. Um. The tree collapsed and fell off and fell onto his leg, crushed his leg and he was trapped under this tree. Little Lucas, who's been you know, was trained by my uncle how to use a chainsaw, put his little chainsaw down and grabbed the big chainsaw and cut the tree off of my uncle's leg. Now he didn't stop there because once uh, they got ahold of I don't know the story about how they called for help, but the ambulance could not get down the road because of this tree, I believe is the way I was told this, And so Lucas helped clear the road with the chainsaw. Eleven year old kid went the distance and literally saved my uncle's life. Now, unfortunately, my uncle lost his leg. That's one of the reasons why I went out and got injured. I didn't want him to feel like he was all by himself and this. So now now I'm in a brace, and now they're gonna I think they're gonna put actually a horse leg on where he had his other leg. So little Lucas, I gotta tell you, I salute you. I think that I salute my uncle and my aunt and the way that you all have taught uh this young man to be empowered, and it shows it shows you can start children from a very young age on how to uh not just be respectful, not just be um well behaved, but you can teach them how to be powerful at a very young age by giving them the tools. And in the case of my uncle, he started uh lucas off with a smaller chainsaw, made him aware of the dangers of it, made him aware of the power of a chainsaw and how to use it. And when it came time for him to be tested, it wasn't like my uncle was sitting there saying, Okay, I want you to cut a V not or of V notch in here, and I wanted to push you know, this was he had to do this or my uncle was going to die. And he picked up the big chainsaw and he acted. And that's the whole premise of this whole book that I've written, Sheep no More. The art of awareness and attack survival. Is it ultimately you, your children, your daughters, your sons, your grandsons. In this case, your uncle's, your clergyman, your your your entire congregation in your churches, the people that are in college, even congressmen, congresswomen, senators, even the President United States, Mr. Trump. If you're listening, you can be aware and you can be empowered. And when when this is the case, what's gonna happen in this country is that you're gonna see things start to change. Politicians aren't going to be able to lie to you like they have before, because you're gonna be aware of what reality, what's effective thinking. You're not just gonna give them the tool or the the handouts to say, go save this country, because that's not gonna happen. You're gonna be able to identify areas where on a daily basis, whether it be your home, your commute to work, whether your children are going to school or homeschooled, whether you're going out to eat or go to some type of a music concert in a stadium and arena, or maybe you work in a tall building, maybe you work in them. All you'll be able to identify, and you should be able dentify whether you get this book or you should be able to identify where the threats are, what times these threats are the highest, the vulnerabilities that can be exploited, and the attackers avenue of approach. All this, all this awareness, if the American people start to embrace what they've been given and are thankful for their freedom and realize that, yeah, you you kind of have to earn this, this freedom, You kind of have to earn your place in life. If you start to realize this, and you become aware and empowered, you're gonna see You're gonna be a forced multiplier for a police department, You're gonna be a forced multiplier for your neighbor, You're gonna be a forced multiplier for all the first responders, and in general for the country. So it's time for the country for a citizen to start serving. And the way you do that is by gaining awareness, becoming empowered, and stepping up every day to help each other out. It's John the Gillen. We're gonna come back for the Sean Hannity Radio Show in just a minute. Sheep no More. The Art of Awareing Us An Attack Survival. You can pre order to Amazon right now. We'll be right back breaking news today and tomorrow. Don't miss one day. This is the Sean Hannity Show. This is Jonathan Gilham. Final stretch here. I just want to tell everybody thank you, thank you again for having me on. Have a happy Thanksgiving, and remember, folks, I've been talking about awareness the entire show. It is up to you to be a forced multiplier in this in this country for every body, and go get this book, Sheep No More The Art of Awareness and Attack Survival. I promise you you will not regret it. Give it to everybody. It makes a great Birthday present, Thanksgiving present, Christmas presents, New Year's Just get it. You don't even have to have a reason to buy it. And for a holiday. Just get it. For people that are going away from home, or people that you know that may be in a predicament where they could be an attack. Give it to family, new parents. This needs to be something that gets in the hands of everyone. It's on Amazon right now for preorder Sheep No More The Art of Awareness and Attack Survival, and it will also be available on Kindle and audio book December twelveth. Audio book maybe a little bit later. Well, I'll find that out and put that up. Follow me on Twitter j Gilliam Underscore Sealing on Facebook. Jonathan T. Gilliam, I'll see you guys,

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