Sean Reacts to Cohen's Deal and Manafort Jury Verdict - 8.21

Published Aug 21, 2018, 11:39 PM

Gregg Jarrett and attorney Joe DiGenova join Sean and react to today’s breaking news involving both Michael Cohen and Paul Manafort

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Breaking news now here, Sean Hannity, all right, we got all sorts of news all over the place. Gladual with us any press conferences that occur as it relates to UH. Michael Cohen's plea with the federal prosecutors in the Southern District of New York. He has pled guilty to eight specific issues. UH. The same with Paul Manafort. Has been found guilty in his trial of eight of the eighteen charges against him in the Manapoort case, five specific tax fraud charges, five specific tax years, false reports, guilty on one charge of hiding a foreign bank account, and guilty on two counts of bank fraud. I assume that's all related UH to applications for loans. I believe that he didn't even receive UH. In the case of Manafort, will stay there for a second. We do know that Judge Ellis will decide what his sentence happens to be. We do know in the in the case of of Michael Own that he is facing a particularly long period of time in jail, anywhere between three and five years. Joining us now is former prosecutor himself, as Joe de Geneva, David Shown and Greg jareded stay with us as well. Joe will bring you into all of this. Eight of eighteen, and Michael Cohen leads guilty and makes a deal with the prosecutors in the Southern District of New York. Your reaction, well, I think if you're Bob Mueller, you're pleased with a verdict which has eight guilty verdicts in it. Um, that's why they charged so many to give the jury choices. And while some people may think this is bad news from all of etcetera, etcetera, it isn't. He got a conviction. He got a conviction in something totally unrelated to collusion, So in that sense it is a defeat. But this is this is pretty ugly stuff. I feel very sorry for Manaphort. I think the way he's been treated has been horrific. And uh, I just think that this is an ugly place to be. But um, it is a win for Muller, as much as I hate to say it. But um, it's not perfect. And of course, most importantly, it has nothing to do with collusion. One of let me go to the one thing that I know everybody in the media seems to be focused on that and count seven and eight in the Michael Cone case, he says he violated campaign UH laws at the direction of the candidate now for example, and count eight as it relates to Stormy Daniels, Count seven as it relates to Karen McDougall. Uh. I know he's on record. There's a number of places where he has said at a number of people, he said a two vanity fairs. But one source Cohen said that Trump did not know that he paid off Stormy Daniels. Uh and for his own reasons, he said the payment was made with no expectation of getting reimbursed. UH. Now on the issue in the media sayingle this implicates the president. How credible if somebody said one thing before and saying one thing now in a plea deal, how incredible is the conflicting statements in that case? Well, obviously, when you know are you lying now? Are you were you lying then? And the issue is, payments made with the knowledge of the candidate are not necessarily illegal per se. So it's going to require some additional proof and and evidence about what this all means. And uh those charges are usually handled civilly, but in this case they have not been. And so this this needs to be fleshed out. Yeah, what's your take on that specific issue, David Comb. Absolutely, it's going to be, you know, the sexy issue the media plays up. Um. That's why this deal will build as a no cooperition deal. This is colent payment to them. I put this is what I said before. You have to follow the police call it me by putting the president internets are trying to this is his cooperation. That's what they wanted. Here's the great ironing. The only campaign related charge so far to date is brought by the Southern District of New York. Well, it was it was fat and fairness though this was Muller feeding it to them. That's right, that's right. But that's the There was absolutely no highlights again, no need for Mueller or the appointment of the special counsel, the abuse of that appointment and the waste of it. But look, this is going to be the issue that plays out. By the way, I thought that was the easiest charge to defend the idea, as j Jennevan just said, usually hand about their electing commission, putting that aside, the idea that Mr Trump paid these people solely or even primarily to uh to affect the election. Unfortunately, there is a history, um, you know, illicit affairs and that sort of thing, not just with this. Didn't this hall get taken a court in the case in the case of John Edwards is not similar. Of course, it happens day after day with elected officials and other people, and the payment to those people to stop further embarrassment is a is how business has done, frankly among many lawyers in that business, and to this great set effect him, by the way of the so called victim now here tries to tie it the campaign. You're right, he's on record staying otherwise. And let me ask about that, on record saying otherwise. Even his attorney, David Schwartz, was on fake News CNN March and said that the president did not know about the hush agreement Cohn pushed with Stormy Daniels uh and the agreement that he made in October. Quote, the President was not aware of the agreement. What is your reaction to that? Is Greg Jarity there, yeah, um, well, I this will be a question of fact. The president's position has been quite clear. He didn't know about it, um, and he relied on his personal attorney to handle all matters regarding nondisclosure agreements, which are as common as the grass is green. And whether or not that's a campaign violation, Uh, it will be a question of fact. And you know Cohen has uh he diminished credibility now because of his guilty fleet to crimes. So uh, you know I wouldn't trust Michael Cohen over the president at any point in time. Well, let me ask big pictures. So in this case, it's Michael Cohen, it's it's mostly tax on bank issues. Uh, Joe Degeneva in the case of Michael Flinn, it's lying to the FBI, in case of Papadopolis, it's lying to the FBI in the case of Manafort. If we look at the specific verdicts again, ten cases whether he had a hung jury that couldn't decide, but five specific tax years where he filed false income tax reports, one charge of hiding a foreign bank account, to guilty counts of bank fraud. You know what I'm not hearing here, anything about Russia, anything about collusion, anything about the campaign or Donald Trump really except that there's a conflicting statements as it relates to whether he knew about what Michael Cohen did or didn't know, and Michael Kona said both things on that particular issue, I don't think there's any doubt that this has nothing to do with the original reason this entire investigation was set up, which is Russian collusion. So that's that's obviously clear. As far as the the accounts with regard to the campaign contributions, that's a question that's going to have to be resolved by the prosecutors about whether or not they believe. Right, guys, hang in there. I sorry, we're gonna keep you guys for the rest of the hour. We have Paul Manafort attorney and hard fought deliberations. He is evaluating all of his options at this point. Thank you everyone. That was a statement from Manafort's attorney. Sorry that was I didn't even get to hear most of it. But what's your reaction to Let's go back to the big picture here. No Russia, no collusion, no Trump, no campaign. And I know everybody thinks, well, all right, these are all people. Would any of these people be in any trouble at all if if they didn't bring up a special counsel to investigate so called Russian collusion? Joe de Genlevan so they had the answer to that is no. Uh. In fact, in the case of Mantaport, the original tax case against him was declined by the Tax Division of the Justice Department. They said there wasn't enough evidence. It just goes to show that when you throw resources at something where the prosecutor has only one case and one thing to do, that they can they can find anything on anybody at any time. That is the misery for Mr Manafort to know that he had originally been told by the Justice Department a couple of years ago that there was nothing to this, and then Mueller decided to resurrect it, investigated to death with millions of dollars, and he found something. Let me ask something that this goes to the heart of Gregg's book. I mean Hillary Clinton. I don't think there's a greater more obvious case of obstruction with her subpoena emails deleted and acid washed and bleach pit and devices busted up and sim cards were moved. Uh. They wrote an exoneration before investigation. We do have a we do have a lot of corruption. All right, hang on, like you hate to do this to you, but we now have I guess this is outside of New York. I think it's the prosecutors of the defense. You know. Let's listen in let's move over to that press conference now of New York, how split screen day attorney for the United States in this matter. New York Prosecutles Sweeney, Assistant Director in charge of the New York Field Office of the FBI, and James Robnett, who is the Supervisory Agent charge of the New York Office of the i R S. Also with me are the prosecutors from the United States Attorney's Office in the Southern District of New York who prosecuted the Cohen matter. I'm gonna have a brief statement and we'll not be taking any questions today. As you heard, Michael Golan pled guilty to eight felony charges. Five of those dealt with tax evasion for the years two thousand and twelve through two thousand and sixteen, and which he failed to report approximately four point one million dollars in recorded income. Approximately two point five of that money was from interest payments from a personal loan that he failed to report. Approximately one point three million dollars of that money was from the operation of his taxi medallion business. Approximately one hundred thousand dollars of that money was from brokerage commissions, and over two hundred thousand dollars was from consulting fees. That's over four point three million dollars over five year period, which translates into a loss to the United States Treasury of approximately one point three million dollars. In addition, in counts six, Mr Cohen played guilty to making false statements to a financial institution in connection with an application for a home equity line of credit. In that application, he failed to disclose more than fourteen million dollars in debt that he had, and as a result of that concealment, he obtained that five thousand dollar line of credit, which he would not have been entitled to had he been candid and honest. In addition, Mr Cohen hell of guilty to to campaign finance charges, one for causing an unlawful corporate contribution and a second one for personally making an excessive personal contribution, both for the purpose of influencing the two thousand and sixteen election. In addition, what he did was he worked to pay money to silence two women who had information that he believed would be detrimental to the two thousand and sixteen campaign and to the candidate and the campaign. In addition, Mr Cohen sought reimbursement for that money by submitting in for in voices to the candidates company which were untrue and false. They indicated the reimbursement was for services rendered for the year two thousand and seventeen, when in fact those invoices were a sham. He provided no legal services for the year two thousand and seventeen, and it was simply a means to obtain reimbursement for the unlawful campaign contribution. A couple of points I'd like to make first, these are very serious charges and reflect a pattern of lies and dishonesty over an extended period of time. They are significant in their own rights. They are particularly significant when done by a lawyer, a lawyer who through training and tradition, understands the prosecutor in the Southern District of New York talking about the Michael Cone case, We're gonna, uh, We're not going to our first break. We're gonna continue to hold this and then we'll continue with Joe j Jenneva, Joe de Jenneva, Greg Jarrett and David Choon straight ahead understands what it means to be a lawyer, to engage in honest and fair dealing and adherence to the law. Mr Cohen disregarded that training, disregarded that tradition, and decided that he was above the law, and for that he was going to pay a very very serious price. With respect to the campaign finance violations, the campaign finance laws are designed to prevent the use of illegal money in elections, and they maintain the integrity of those elections. Mr Cohen made guilty, please, UM for those campaign violations, and those are core violations and what he did was uh he he these Please remind us that it is illegal for corporations to make contributions UM two candidates. UH. And it is illegal to make contributions in excess of the amount that Congress set for individuals. That is a strong message today, and we will not be uh. We will not fear of prosecuting additional corp corporation finding campaign finance cases. Lastly, and perhaps most importantly, this case, UH is unique in many ways, just witness the gathering of all of you here today, and in other ways it's unique as well. But in the really important ways this case is not unlike many cases that my office, the United States Attorney's Office, brings that the entire Department of Justice springs, and that the law enforcement agencies do as well, including the FBI and the I r S. This case has more in common with all those cases because they all share the same message, and that message is that the rule of law applies, and that for law enforcement, all of whom are gathered here, it is it is our commitment that we will pursue and vindicate UH those who UH who choose to break the law, and vindicate the majority of people who live law a body lives UM, who allow honest and fair dealing and live lies of lawful behavior. UM. The messages that we are here, Prosecutors are here, law enforcement is here, the Department of Justice is here, the law enforcement agencies here. We are a nation of laws, and the essence of this case is about is justice and that is an equal playing field for all UH persons in the eyes of the law. And that is a lesson that Mr Cohen learned today, and it is a very harsh one for him. Thank you very much. You're talking about I'm sorry one other thing. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'd also like to introduce sorry my my fault. I really want to thank uh uh Mr Sweeney UH and James Robnett of the FBI and the I R. S UH and the agents who work for them. We do many many cases with them, and their determination and their fair dealing and their vigor with which they sue their cases is really inspirational to the prosecutors in my office. I cannot express the gratitude for the hard work that they did in this case. And that is Assistant United States Attorneys Andrea Griswold and Nick Russ and Rachel Maymon and Tom McKay, as well as at Discant, the Deputy Chief of the Public Corruption Unit, and Russell Capone, the Chief of the Public Corruption Unit. For all of these people, I could go on and on about their many virtues and talents, but the one important thing is they all are satisfied was simply being known as public servants, prosecutors and law enforcement agents who are doing their job. Thank you very much. All right, let's get reaction now. That was the prosecutor in the Michael Cone case, Joe de Jenifer, will start with you. Your reaction, well, uh, this creates a number of rather complicated problems for the President and other people around him. Uh. They are claiming that Michael Cohen told them that these payments, which they say, we're illegal camp corporate campaign contributions, were made with the knowledge of the payment of the of the candidate. Now we're gonna assume that candidate has got to be Donald Trump. Now he can have knowledge that the payments were being made, but he doesn't necessarily know that they were illegal campaign corporate corporate payments. So it leaves a lot to the imagination. But clearly this has opened a very serious door. Um, and if I read correctly what they are, let me read from let me read from Vanity Fair. Michael Cohen says Trump did not know that he paid off Daniels and for his own reason. Cohen says he made the payment with no expectation of ever getting reimbursed. I mean, and there are numerous cases where he's told that to people. What does that mean exactly? So they're going to have to think they're going to have to deal with the questions of Mr. Cohen's credibility on all of these things directly related to any of these payments. So obviously, UH, this matter has uh has has very many edges to it. Let me get Greg Jarrett's take on that. Well, under the Federal Campaign Election Act, it's very unique. It requires what most statutes don't require, and that's knowledge that you're violating the Federal Campaign Election Act. And Trump's position is that took Cohen acted all on his own, that there was some general at one point it was it was Michael Cohen's position. Yes, I'm that's what I'm at. It's Michael Cohen's position that that he acted all on his own. It's also the president's position that he acted all on his own. So you can't impute knowledge to somebody who's not a party to it. H So that would be principally the president's defense of any accusation that he was involved in directing and coordinating this. Let me get David Shon's take on it. Showed the Jenneva accurately said, a lot of this is going to come down to credibility. I think the prosecutor gave you a head start today. Prosecutors words lead prosecutors words. Michael Cohen has a pattern of lies and dishonesty over a significant period of time. That's the government position. When any trial would be vouching for Michael Cohen. Um Gregg is right about the intent required. And again you know as sin as well start, the irony is with many business people, and there's a history of paying for silence for to avoid embarrassment. Um, that in itself is a reason, a legitimate business reason. Well, that's the whole case of John Edwards as I understood it, that's right, has nothing to do with campaign finance. Had the idea of here, you know, Cohen submitted to what he says are false invoices to the Trump organization. Do you think the Trump organization gets one or two invoices a year? Do you think there are a lot? Do you think the president okay, is every one of them? Uh? Do you think the president thought his election would turn on whether the public believed he was faithful at all times in his marriage or had an affair with Stormy Daniels or Karen mcdougalll hard to believe. With the American people have voted on one way or the other. What about what the what the prosecutor said here about about Michael Cohen having lied over this long period of time. Joe, Well, that of course underscores the credibility problem that Michael Cohen is going to have, and it may be that it also may give some pause to the prosecutors themselves about his usefulness to them as a witness. It is quite clear that they had labeled him a liar uh, and they didn't hesitate to do so. Indeed, they were quite quite blunt about it. So in terms of him being a witness in anything, again, it remains to be seen, you know, as we as we go through all of this, though I keep going back to one fundamental thing. Uh. This was supposed to be about Trump Russia collusion. Now we're dealing in each case with either line to the FBI Flynn, Papadopoulos or Cohn and Manafort. And again ten ten of the eighteen charges they couldn't decide on and we had a hung jury on ten of them. But it all comes down to bank bank fraud, some type of tax issue fraud. Uh. And in the case of two of the counts with Coneh, payments that he made and again in interviews he had said that he made on his own devices about telling the president uh. And then false reimbursement that he made to the so I guess the campaign or to the Trump organization. So to me, I keep going back to fundamentally, how did we get from one thing to this? And would any of this have happened? Greg, that's your last shot. But we're gonna let you go. We're gonna keep Joe and Andy McCarthy joins us. Well, it just shows you the two tiered system of justice. Hillary Clinton engages in rampant acts of corruption and illegality, uh and gets a free pass. 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The case of Michael Kohne uh similar you know, statutes eight specific counts of aiding personal income taxes, making an unlawful corporate campaign contribution, false statement to a financial institution, and excessive campaign contribution. Uh, etcetera, etcetera. He's facing, you know, anyway between I guess three to five specific year years in jail as they've gone through all of that today, we haven't gotten any word on whether or not anything else has happened. But anyway, Uh, tax evasion, bank fraud, making, unlawful corporate contribution, making illegal campaign finance contribution. Uh. And he told prosecutors that he made the contribution at the direction of the candidate, which everyone is focused on. And there are numerous cases and we have pulled up a couple of them where Michael Cohen has directly been quoted as saying that Donald Trump did not know that he paid off In the case of count eight Stormy Daniels, Uh and for his own reasons, con said he made a payment with no expectation of getting reimbursed. And Uh. Anyway, Andy McCarthy knows the law as well as anybody, and he served in the prestigious Southern District of New York. How many years were there I know you worked on the First Trade Center bombing and the Blind Shade case, and you an amazing prosecutor. And this is one of the toughest districts as it relates to UH, federal prosecution in the country. Yeah, close to twenty years sean amazing. Yeah. The thing with the Cone case, UH, just so we can go lawyer on everyone here is there's a difference between a direction to pay the money and the filing of whatever campaign finance disclosures are available. And as I understand it, in his guilty plea elocution, what Cohen says, as he was directed by the candidate to pay the money, that doesn't implicate the crime here is not paying the money. The crime here is not making the required campaign finance disclosure. Now I'm sure they could argue that it was implicit that there would be no disclosure, because that's why you make the payment in the first place. But the important thing is there is a difference between a direction to make a payment and a direction not to file a required campaign disclosure. And I didn't hear anything that in what's been reported or what he said in his elocution that the president directed him to violate the campaign finance laws. Well, that that is a you know, this is why you're so good at what you do. I never would have picked that up myself, to be very blunt. And and this is where a lot of nuances in this. The prosecutor I don't know if you know him, the one that gave the press conference. His name escapes me at the moment, but I mean it was very eloquent and explaining what this case was about. But he also talked about a pattern of dishonesty that has gone on for years, and false reimbursement and so on and so forth, and things that he filed and statements. And when I go to the issue of Michael Cohen had said previously, is that an issue? Do you see this in any way as an issue for the president? Well, I at the moment, I think the political ramifications of this the worst of the presidents and the legal ones, because what happened here. If you're regarding someone as a cooperating witness on what you would usually do is throw the book at him. You wouldn't be talking about three to five years in prison. So what they've done here is they've treated this as a straight up plea, not a Cooperation agreement. They probably don't regard him as a potentially good cooperator because he's made so many statements all over the map that he's not the kind of guy you would want to put on the stand. So I think what he has said in court today is politically damaging. So the president, there's no question about that. But as far as legally is concerned, I don't think they see this guy as someone they want to build a case on. And I think Muller has already decided that he doesn't help on collusion with Russia, which is why the Southern District got the case in the first place. Well, let me then ask this. I mean, if we're looking at this and it's tunnel. I thought this was all supposed to be about Russia and Trump and campaign and collusion with Russia to influence the campaign. And you know, I can go through, you know, all the cases where Clinton charities had to refile their tax returns and because errors or the fact by the way, the president arrived in West Virginia, he's gonna he's speaking. Well, we'll run that in a minute. But Al Sharpton didn't at a four point five million dollar tax bill. He didn't pay. And Tim Geitner, remember the tax chief, Tim Geitner, he regretted mistakes with taxes. But Okay, I understand the law is the law, and I have said this to everybody I know for years. Pay your taxes. So if I look at Michael Cohn and Paul Manafort, this are the lessons that I get. Don't lie in when making a an application for a loan to a bank, don't lie, pay your taxes, and in the case of Flynn and Papadopolis, don't lie to the FBI. And if we're gonna add the one other issue we're talking about count seven and eight with Michael Cohne, don't make contributions, uh that that to a campaign and then try and put it off through false reimbursements to silence a woman, etcetera, etcetera. With the what the prosecutor in the case said, if I sum it up, that I sum it up pretty well. Yeah. And the only thing I would add to that is the issue I think that we're going to have to look at hard and discuss over the next days and weeks is whether there's been a change in the way they enforced the campaign finance laws. So in two thousand and eight. To take this example, the Obama administration commits over two million dollars worth of campaign finance violations and is permitted by the Eric Holder led Obama Justice Department to settle that with a fine to the SEC. I think it was a three thousand dollar fine or so, if I'm if I'm remembering right. So in other words, that was a major violation that was not handled as a selony. And now you know, suddenly it looks like we're we're changing course and treating this as a felony. I don't want to I'm not trying to excuse unlawful behavior, but I do think that it's important to look into whether the government is handling these matters consistently or not well. I mean, I think a lot of that goes to one of the arguments I have been making. I mean, you know my arguments as well as anybody, and I believe that you don't make it write an exoneration before you interview seventeen key people. In the case of Hillary, I don't think I've ever seen a bigger case, clear cut case of obstruction than what she did with with subpoena emails and her hard drive with bleach bid and busting up devices with hammers and removing SIM cards and and I do believe what happened to the FIS accord on four separate applications was a fraud and lies to a judge. I don't I wouldn't add that to the list. Don't do that stuff either. I don't think you'd recommend me doing it if you're my attorney. Um uh. And and she's got a way with it. And then we've got, you know, the issues involving the Espionage Act. And then we've got all these fired FBI and d o J people. I mean, twenty five people have either been fired, demoted, or resigned. The top people, I mean from from Comey to McCabe, destruct to Page and on, Sally Yates and Bruce or and everybody in between. I mean, it seems like we don't have any movement about everyone. I don't see any indictments about Lyon defies the court judges. Isn't that bad? No, not at the moment now where you understand that there's two different investigations of this going on at the Justice Department. Will have to see how that turns out. But I think there's a profound case that there has been or have been, two different standards of justice depending on who it is who's violating the laws. I'm not casting as versions at my old office. I think very highly the people there. Jeff Berman, who I think is the U. S attorney that you were referring to earlier. Is President Trump's appointee there? Now he was he was refused from this. Oh okay, was it Rob Kuzami then? But it was somebody yes, yes, yeah, because Rob Kuzami was my partner or one of my partners on the blind cases. It seems very smart, very efficient. They gave a you know, totally professional press conference. Let me play for you, Andy, if I might. This is the President arriving in West Virginia reacting to both cases. Were sad about that it doesn't involve me, but I still feel, you know, it's a very sad thing that happened. This has nothing to do with Russian collusion. Just started as Russian collusion. This has absolutely nothing to do There's a witch hunt and it's a disgrace, but this has nothing to do what they started out looking for Russians involved in our campaign. There were done. I feel very badly for bull MANA for it again. He worked for Bob Dole, he worked for Ronald Reagan, he worked for many many people. And uh, it's the way it ends up. And it was not the original mission, believe me it was. It was something very much different. So had nothing to do with Russian collusion. We continue the way. Thank you very much. Right, that was the president's full statement. Uh, Andy, I want to just ask you, I mean, it is true. This is how do you go from Russia collusion and the and the charges are Flynn and Papadopoulos line to the FBI you have tax and and bank fraud in the case of both Maniford and Cohn, and to campaign finance violations? How do we get there? Yeah? Well, Sean, I think that this goes to what we discussed last night with Professor Dershowitz on your show, which is, um, would these guys have been in the crosshairs of prosecutors had they not been connected to the Trump campaign. It's hard to believe that they would have. Uh. It's a standard practice by prosecutors who think that somebody has the uh the evidence that they need to advance an investigation, that you squeeze that person to try to get cooperation. You and I might have a slight disagreement on this, but but I understand the process go ahead. Yet, what what I was gonna say is if if let's say Mula actually takes his mandate seriously and views it that what he needs to do is get to the bottom and answer all the questions about Rusha's interference in the election. Forget about President Trump for a second. Manaford is a guy who has longstanding connections to Kremlin connected people. It may well be that the reason that the squeeze is being put on Manafort is Muller regards him as important in terms of what Russia's intentions are, not necessarily necessarily on the president. Well, that goes to Judge Ellis, who says they're gonna put the screws to Manafort, make him singer composed for the purpose of prosecuting or impeaching Trump. Okay, well so far. Uh Manafort, who, by the way, I had talked to him after all this started, and he said to me, I don't have anything to say. Those are exact words to me. So I'm gonna make the same point that I've made before. Man a Fort was not in Trump world for a long time. It's not like he's a longstanding confident of the president, right, he worked for him for a certain period short period of time during the campaign and for six months, maybe it's seven months now, Mueller has had access to Rick Gates, who is Manafort's longtime partner, and I have to think anything that uh Manafort would have known about Russian collusion, Gates would have known. And yet since Gates got to get out of jail free car. Yeah, but but what has happened to Muller's investigations since then? He's returned two indictments against Russians that don't have a hint of any complicity by the Trump campaign, and they're quietly forming these cases out. So I think, you know, I don't really I think that this is really at this point, it's all about obstruction. I don't think that that that Mueller sees a collusion case here. I just don't, well an obstruction. I mean, you know, it's just after Papadoppolos and Flynn, why would anybody ever talk to Muller or any FBI guy. I'm a guy, My mom was a prison guard, my dad was a family core probation guy. And I, you know, to two members of my extended family made the FBI. That was they were deity. You know. The rest were New York City cops and they were deity to me. But you know, um, and then when you know, you watch a case like this, I have FBI, I say, and don't ever talk to the FBI. And I'm like, what do you mean, don't talk to them? My inclination is, of course I talked to them. Yeah, but Sean, people don't. People in these physicians don't talk to the FBI and the prosecutors because they want to. They talk to him because they take it's the least ad alternative they have. Well, but I mean, if you're gonna get like, for example, if Don McGann spensins thirty hours with Mueller, and let's say Trump does go in and talk to him, which would be a bad idea, But if he did, what if he contradicts one, two, or three things? And then isn't it the prosecutor that decides what we believe McGann. We don't believe Trump. We hate Trump. Yeah, Well that's it's it's that's additional reason why Trump shouldn't go in there. I must tell you shown in twenty years as a prosecutor, I never got to interview the main subject of any investigations, lawyer, let alone interview him for thirty crazy right, Well, but it goes to show that he doesn't need President Trump in order to finish his work. It's a great point. Let me go back to the case you mentioned in two thousand and eight. Obama's election campaign didn't properly report two million dollars in last minute donations to the Juggernaut, and I'm reading from Reuters that swept him into the White House. But that was the only violation found in the FEC's audit of Obama's seven seventy eight million dollars campaign. Al Right, two million dollars in the case of Cohen we're talking about. And by the way, they paid a fine. It was a record at the time, some three hundred and uh what did I have here ahead in front of me three d some thousand dollars, three thousand dollars the biggest fine at the time of one of the top five um in the case of ConA. Isn't that just like what less than three hundred thousand, not two million? Is that equal justice? Yeah? Well, that's and you know who's the other one who comes up here, Sean Danish to SUSA who I think his campaign violation was like fifteen thousand dollars and they charged him with felony. I mean, that's why people look at this stuff and they say, do we really have one standard of justice in this country? Well, I think on all the other issues that we have pointed out, nothing has happened. Uh, And that this was supposed to be about Russia in the beginning, and this is what we end up with with line to the FBI. 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And the New York Times reports that it does not include any cooperation of any kind, that it would include let's see, oh like manaphort, tax issues, tax fraud, paying fraud, and maybe a campaign finance violation, which Michael's on the record is saying that he did on his own, and I know that people have contradicted that, but that's what he's on record as having said. But it's funny as you watch the New York Times, they're they're holding out hope that Cone will cooperate with Muller, and I'm like, but they're not biased abusively so at all, because around two this afternoon, that's when they the news first broke that Cone had reached the deal with the Southern District of New York and federal prosecutors, and they immediately raced to the conclusion that he was ready to cooperate. I can't imagine what was going through their heads. And then finally, at long last, somebody was ready to incriminate President Trump in crimes that would end as presidency. In the collective media, it's like a collective orgasm of the news media in this country. You know that you could almost hear the screams of omnipotent ecstasy from them. But by three PM they had the report that the Cone deal did not include cooperation. And I don't think I've seen so many sad faces since November eight into the morning of November nine, and they're particularly crest falling over The New York Times Maggie Haberman reporting, Hey, don't worry, Michael Khan can still decide to cooperate with Muller at a later dake. And the plea agreement does not call for Mr. Kha co operate with federal prosecutors in Manhattan, but it does not preclude him from providing information to the Special Counsel Robert Mueller, who's examining the Trump campaign's possible involvement in Russian interference in the tween campaign. There's gonna be any cooperation they would decide now. And let me be very very clear about this, because this is not a small issue here, because if you're watching very closely here, if, for example, if they give a range of three to five years, if if they've written him off as a cooperator, you're never gonna leave a cooperator open a big reduction in in time and say three to five years. And that's what we have actually been hearing and what is being reported. NBC is reporting a possible jail time three to six years. And probably if they made a deal, that would include every bit of it. But if he already has made a deal and it doesn't include cooperation. That's a big that that is not a small deal, as much as the New York Times might be upset about it. The other big breaking news is this question that came from the jury and the Mantaphor trial. They have now gone what this is there fifth day of deliberation. It's unbelievable. And the question is if we can't come to consensus on a single count, what does that mean for the final verdict. We're gonna get into the rest of that as we continue. Greg Jared joins us, author of Three Weeks in a Row running now the New York Times number one best seller, The Russian Hoax, The Illicit Scheme to clar Hillary Clinton frame Donald Trump. David Shown is a civil liberties criminal defense attorney. Sidney Powell is, of course an attorney. She wrote the best selling book License to Lie, exposing corruption in the Department of Justice, and senior policy adviser for America. First, welcome all of you. Let's get a general consensus both on Cone and the Manaphor question. We'll start with you Gray, considering you do have the current number one New York Times bestseller in the country. Well, the Manafort trial is interesting. The juries note today was ambiguous. Um, it could mean they've reached agreement on all but one count, but it could also mean they haven't reached an agreement on any of the charges. Now, if it's the latter, then obviously there's a hung jury, and this would certainly be a victory for the reasonable doubt defense mounted by Manaforts lawyers. So we'll just have to wait and see how this unfolds. As for the Cohen plea, UM, it appears that most of the charges against him involved tax in bank fraud inflating his assets to get a twenty million dollar loan UM as to the charge of campaign finance violation. Uh if as you stated in your intro, Wait, and I'm just told that another note, by the way, has been sent by the Manafort jury to Judge Ellis. I'll know momentarily what that is. That's interesting, but go ahead. I'm sorry to interrupt you. Greg. Well, if it relates to so called hush money, which was you know, essentially be quiet, go away, sign a nondisclosure agreement. UM, the payment establishes it as a thing of value, and so it technically would be a violation of campaign finance. But it appears as though Cohen has stated repeatedly he did this on his own, so that doesn't necessarily implicate Donald Trump. One thing you know is for sure none of this has anything to do with Trump Russia collusion. You know, but I mentioned earlier, you got Papadoppolo's line of the FBI, You got, okay, General Flynn line to the FBI. If we're gonna go down the list, Manafort, you know, old tax and and bank fraud issues, nothing to do with Russia collusion, the campaign or Donald Trump now tax and bank issues as it relates to Michael Cohen and maybe the campaign issues that relates to, you know, him paying what he said was on his own, making his own decision to pay Stormy Daniels his campaign violation. What does your take on all of this, David Shoon? Very interesting breaking because obviously so we don't really know to make of it yet. I'll be interested to hear with new Manafort. Note is I think to decipher all afternoon, whether they be there's one account that they can't agree on and they've agreed on all of the others, or they can't agree on even a single count. I tend to think, quite frankly, that it's the former, especially if the judge's instruction included that he would provide a partial verdict form, potentially that would tend to indicate it. They may have made agreement on all of the counts except one. I just don't know on the cold thing. I think my biggest concern now is I want to hear what the factual predicate is in the plea colloque. And they may play it close to the vest, but when he appears before the judge and his play is actual change the plea is guilty plea, the judge is gonna want a factual predicate to satisfy that. Often the prosecutor just reads it, defendant agrees, or the defendant actually says it. On the camp in finance violation, you know, this may be where they got cute. They say he's not cooperating. But if he tries to put the president into that in his plea colloquy on the campaign finance thing, that's going to be very interesting. And of course you were right what you said earlier on that it doesn't it's not presented as a cooperation deal, or they wouldn't say three to five years. That's an obvious across a cross examination. But but but he cannot decide to cooperate later after the deal is all done. Yeah, that's gonna happen. I mean, it's so ridiculous and it's such an obvious bias that they have. But let me go through the big picture question. As we're waiting for specifics, I have been told, I am confirmed now that in fact, there there has been a note sent to the juror. And but but I'm looking very very closely. Yeah, Jory has sent another note to the judge. Could it be possibly, Sydney, they've reached a verdict. It could be here, It could be them telling him they've tried longer and they cannot reach a verdict. I missed what you said. Linda was talking in my ear, which makes it impossible for me to hear two people. I'm sorry, Sydney, go ahead, it's all right. It means that they have tried as hard as they can and they have not reached a verdict and deemed themselves unable to do. So let me go over this question. This question is fascinating. I watched all the comments all day, and I can see both sides of it. If we cannot come to a consensus on a single count. What does that mean for the final verdict? Now? Can you interpret that as they've already decided on seventeen counts and we have one left, or does this we can't kind of consensus on any count a single count? Which would you say, Greg, Jared, I but a pessimist, irish and me says no, no, no, they got seventeen guilty verticts. You know you always think were his case scenario. Well, I think the point that David Shone was making is a valid one. If the president, excuse me, if the if the judge has said that he is willing to deliver a partial verdict, that does suggest that unanimity has been reached either way. It could be unanimous, not guilty, unanimous guilty, but on some of the charges they have reached in agreement. That would be the suggestion here. So we'll have to wait and see. There was a tweet that went out by Peter Doocey today was a great kid. I mean I say that because I'm friends with his father, Steve Doocy, but he's an incredible reply order that that he spoke to a source that was inside the court room and saw the note from the jury firsthand, and that they saw the word any crossed out before single. Now that that to me is is pretty amazing. So I mean, if that's the case, then that would mean the other interpretation, which would be the best possible case Doug David shown for for Paul Montoford and his legal ty right. I mean, it's very hard to pass the words. He also might have said any could go either way. One could make the case that he should have said they should have said any of the count if they really meant they were hung on all of the counts. So I don't know. Look, we're gonna find out soon. We're just guessing. I thought that once we heard this and if it meant just one count was tearing them apart, that we would get a verdict this afternoon. Frankly, either the guy would yield or if there's one holdout or um, you know, would go the other way. But uh, I don't know. I felt we were gonna have a verdict today. Well, I don't know. What there's no is that they sent the judge and we're waiting for that detail to come out. The judge did remind the attorneys today in a lot of detail need to I need not to say anything that's coercive to the jury. He told the jury to carefully reconsider and re examine all the evidence in the case. He said, if the jury sends a message that they can't get to unanimous on all counts, I will ask considering asking the jury where they stand, meaning he will ask if they have come to unanimous decision on some counts. And then we get the whole issue of Sawyer instructions and an Alan charge as it relates to this specific case. Um, and some were complaining in the media that he had already asked for the Alan charge is an instruction given by the court to a deadlocked jury. And people were complaining, well, they didn't say they were deadlocked in a way, they might have been saying that and encourage the jury to continue deliberating. And and the US versus Sawyer case. You you were all familiar with it. What does your take on that did he give those instructions seemingly earlier? Greg, you know, it doesn't appear he did. Um. If he did it, it certainly was a watered down version of it. I mean, the the Alan charges UH normally issued UH in in fairly UH specific language that follows the Alan decisions called a dynamite charge. It essentially means go back and try harder. But there's other language in which the judge encourages the jurors to try to reach some consensus or compromise. We're gonna We're gonna tell our stations along the Shawan Hannity Show Network are seventy five amazing affiliates that we're gonna go to a little earlier break here and the hopes that we're going to get to the bottom of this in the meantime, because I suspect we might be going commercial free afterwards. By the way, now is a good time to get a Liberty Safe. I personally have eight of them, and I bought them long before they were ever an advertiser. Liberty has put all of their Franklin and fat Boy safes on sale now through August. 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We expect any minute now to find out what that note to the judge and the amount of four cases all about. As we speak Michael Kona's and court. He's surrendered to the FBI and has made a plea deal. All coming up. All right, we just have this breaking news. Uh. The jury note said they have reads a verdict on eight of the eighteen counts in the Mantophor case. They cannot reach a verdict on the other ten counts. Wow. Reaction Greg Jarrett, Well, I think this is very good News for the defense. They mounted this reasonable doubt defense. They didn't call a case in earnest with witnesses. Rather, they attempted to pick apart the credibility of the witnesses and evidence through cross examination of the prosecution's case, and to some extent at least is too ten of them. Um, it appears that they, you know, succeeded. Uh, but you know, a verdict on eight of eighteen. We're sort of presuming that those are guilty verdicts, but they may not be. I mean, it's altogether possible. Although if I were a betting man, I wouldn't say so, but it's possible. It could be unanimous verdicts of not guilty. I would if I had to bet, I'd say guilty. But I mean tenor to the eighteen. It's just to me, it's an unmitigated disaster for Mueller. I mean. And and maybe there was one little tax issue or that or bank issue that they said, you know what, he didn't do this right, and we find them guilty on that, but nothing else. Let me get Sydney's reaction to the Sydney Well, it could be that they started with the ones they thought were the easiest and and got some not guilty agreements because some of the counts were absolutely ridiculous, such as charging him for a false loan statement when he didn't even get the loan. That's a good what a great point. That's why I love you. You're so you know, why not state the obvious good point? Uh? David? What's your reaction? Well, I mean the the again, and I hate to predict because it's impossibly prediculated your is going to do until we've heard from them, but it could well be. I mean, what would make sense you I suppose to be the bank fraud related count There are there are nine of them, I think, instead of eight. Sure you're not Irish like I am. There are because I'm a pessimist. I just assume the worst at all times. I am too in a worst case scenario person. But I mean that's that's a bundle that you could see a jury might focus on because they're of like kind in the sense the bank fraud charges. Um. But yeah, I mean it, Sydney makes a great case of a great point. He didn't get the loan. Yeah, well, but it's you know, the intent that's unfortunately, Um, the government works both on the intent to get the loan and and the fault finally fault documents reportedly and unintended loss for sentencing purposes. That's where they sort of get you coming and going. But um, look, you know, we we don't know exactly what it is yet. We don't know if it's guilty or not guilty, as Gregor said, and uh, I think we just have to wait and see. Unfortunately, look, there are a lot of implication for all of this stuff. Did they re try those accounts? Is the judge satisfy with homes and does he take a partial verdict? You know, well he said earlier today he would all right, um, stay right there, We're gonna come back. We'll continue, Uh, eight counts. They have a verdict in the Mantaphor case, no decision on the ten counts, and Michael Cohen has surrendered to the FBI, and we expect a plea dealp entered at this hour more when we continue, all right, glad you whether Sean Hannity Show eight nine one, Sean, we have two simultaneous stories we are following at this hour. Well, Michael kna is in court. He has made a plea deal with the Southern District of New York. It has estimated that it's going to be anywhere between three and five years bank fraud charges and tax fraud charges and maybe a campaign finance violation thrown in there as well. Again, he's also according to The New York Times, they believe the deal would mean he is a non cooperating witness in this case. The manner for judge is about to interview each juror individually. The jury is now said, in this case it is deadlocked on ten of the eighteen counts, and they have found a verdict for eight of the eighteen counts. Now, that is pretty fascinating. We continue with Greg Jarrett. He now is the number one book in the country according to the New York Times. Uh, it's a number one best seller. It's called The Russian Hoax, The Ilicit Scheme to Claire Hillary Clinton and frame Donald Trump. David shoone civil liberties attorney Sydney Powell attorney of the incredible book Licensed to Lie, exposing corruption at the Department of Justice. She's also a senior policy adviser for America. UH first and UM, well, anyway, let me go through what just happened again? We go back to earlier today and the judge got a note from the jury, uh, which was very mysterious to me. I think we now know the answer. If we cannot come to con census on a single count, what does that mean for the final verdict. Well, now that we know that they only found a verdict on eight of the charges and they're deadlocked on ten of them, we now know that there were probably a lot of them. Now it's it's really hard to read a jury. Paul Manaford has found guilty on at least one count. We are now told, according to breaking news and other news about Michael Cohen, he's pleading guilty. As it relates to hang on, I'm looking at what this one count that they are saying here. Okay, the most it could be is seven other counts, and it looks like the jury is deadlocked on They've declared hi mistrial on ten. They now have declared a mistrial on the other ten counts. Now we're getting I guess the jury is reading the verdict on the other other councils before that happens, he's going to interview each dur before he makes a determination. Okay, he's interviewing each joor. How do we know then, why is CNN reporting that the's guilty on at least one count I guess that was part of its Well, we don't know if fake news. You know, we have people actually listening. We have the light in the load a little bit here, Son, I don't care any way you spend this, Greg Jarrett, I mean, this is a disaster for Robert Mueller. Here it is weight guilty filing false individual income tax returns, hundred thousand dollar fine, end or up to three years in prison. Um, this is now literally all right, that's so all right? Guilty filing a false individual tax return. That's a money thing. It seems on one cast we look at all of this. They didn't take Rick Gates testimony at all, and it looks like the juror uh, the judge in this case, ellis point it being very hard in the prosecution in this case and not allowing them to go into full hyperbole mode as it relates to Ostrich Coats, et cetera. I don't know, Greg, if it's guilty on one all right now, it just came and he's guilty on eight counts in the proa trial hung jury on on ten other what's your reaction, Well, that was our suspicion. This underscores just how unscrupulous and over zealous Bob Muller and his team of assembled partisans were. They overcharged this case. Uh And as a consequence, they did not get a verdict on ten of the charges. They did get a verdict on eight of the eighteen total charges. So I would agree with you that this is a an embarrassment and a disaster for Robert Mueller and only serves to demonstrate. Right now, five of the five counts were false tax returns. There were five separate counts, so it's really okay, so that's five of the eight I'm assuming that's right, right, Yes, all right, So failure to report bank accounts of four counts. Loans from Citizens Bank is three counts. So if I'm the guess, they probably went to the loans from It seems like you'd see the loans and tax returns. That's all it seems to be. David shown Well, I don't know. I mean, it would make sense now that the package comes one through Fox. The false extra turns could be the failures file and foreign bank accounts. Remember there was a question that came during it, whether there was a report requirement and whether report had been it had been reported already. If it's really the way it goes, I think right, it's a repudiation of Gates and the prosecution theory. Just the juice here was on the bank fraud charges. That's where the forfeitures triggered. And that's the question of did it man of four and were just Gates? It was done? Well? It is? It raises a question that we've all talked about in detailed, the Sammy the Bull issue. Oh, he kills nineteen people, but he testifies against what John Gotti and then he is forgiven all of that. He gets to get out of jail free. Card Rick Gates gets a get out of jail free card. Yeah. Well, the five Just to be clear with our audience, the false tax returns guiltier. It's five s if it counts, so I would assume that's at least five of the eight. So it's basically okay, he filed false tax returns for five years. Now, by the way, what does that have to do with Russia? Anybody want to venture a guess, Well, and I'll tell you what it should have been an I R s audit resulting in a civil penalty as well as back taxes. That's how cases of uh, you know, tax for all, tax evasion or normally hand handled. But Bob Muller decided he was gonna throw everything at Paul Maniford to, as the judge pointed out, squeeze him to implicate Donald Trump, which hasn't happened. Well, I have stories here. Uh, let's go back. This is ABC News reporting Treasury Secretary nominee Tim Geitner sent on Wednesday, he made careless mistakes when he didn't pay all of his taxes while working at the International Monetary Fund and apologize for senators for adding to their burden when the economy is in the midst of a severe recession. They were careless mistakes. Then I have another article here says al Sharpton's four point five million dollar tax bill. And then of course we had the Clinton Foundation. They had to re audit their taxes and start paying as well. It seems to me, so you've got five cases a tax fraud. What does this say about manaforts Trump Russia collusion. That's what I guess. I'm looking at Sydney. It says absolutely nothing, because there was no Trump Russia collusion. What it does say is that we have a horrible double standard in this country, and that the fact is that Paul Manafort hadn't spent three months trying to help Donald Trump when the presidency, he would not have been prosecuted. Let me interrupt you. Five guilty, five tax fraud charges, one charge of hiding foreign bank accounts. Guilty on two counts of bank fraud. Oh, nothing about Russia. I'm sorry, Sydney. Go ahead. He would not have been prosecuted for any of this had he not tried to help President Trump win the presidency. And that's the only reason he's been prosecuted. The Department of Justice had already passed on any prosecution of him during the Obama administration. So Mueller just got these charges out, dusted him off, pumped him up, and ran him to try to get him to testify against President Trump. You know, well, that's what Judge Ella said. David Shona put the screws to maniforts or he sings or composes. He never sang, He never composed for the purposes of prosecuting or uh impeaching Donald Trump. So here we are five tax fraud charges, five returns, five years in a row, one charge of hiding a foreign bank account and guilty on two counts of bank fraud and his embezzling, tax cheating, lying partner gets off scott free and to get out of jail free card. That's a great system. Right, you will hear before the trial and now the prosecutors greg Andre said you will never hear Russia Trump three this case out with the conviction even one. He was here closing the circle. Michael probably guilty. Now there's nothing that's whoever to do with it. Very interesting sort of pope. The jury picked on counts to convict on and by on the foreign bank reporting everybody else out there. The government offered a program. They weren't sending people to prison these kinds of things. It was a way to work it out. I've had many of these cases. Uh, pay a penalty and with the amnesty protment was offered foreign wide. So it's bogus, this prosecution, but you know it is what it is not. Yeah, well let me ask this. So you got Michael Khan tax it's the same thing tax bang fraud, mana fort tax bang fraud. You got Flynn Lyne to the FBI, Papadoppola, same thing, and and all of this has one commonality, and that is they're connected to Donald Trump. This was supposed to be about Russian collusion. Now I know that this is big news on fake news CNN and and MSNBC, and I'm looking at it and I'm watching. Okay, but they also failed on ten specific counts, Greg Jarrett. And nothing here has to do with Russia. Nothing. Nothing has to do with the campaign nothing. Nothing has to do with Donald Trump. Nothing has to do with Russia. Nothing. And my question is how do we look at this as a system of justice that is fair. Now, keep in mind this Hillary Clinton had an exoneration written before an investigation. Hillary has the single biggest slam dunk obstruction of justice case in history. Hillary Clinton, we know violated the Espionage Act. We know that Hillary Clinton bought and paid for through funneled money through a law firm to an op research firm, hiring a foreign national who put together Russian lines that he doesn't even believe in. It was used to manipulate and lie to the American people in the lead up to an election, then used on four separate occasions and application US to get a PIS warrant on a Trump campaign associate. They like to four separate PISA judges and committed a fraud on four separate PISA courts. I don't see anybody in these cases, uh, indicted in any case in my book, because you've just outlined it quite nicely chapters one through twelve. Um, and Sydney is right that this is a glaring unfair double standard. There, you know, are two or three different systems of justice, and one of them is, if you're Hillary Clinton, you can engage in all manner of criminality and get away with it. Um. They you know, they cleared her before they even interviewed her in sixteen others in the case. Uh. And as I point out in my book, they you know, I've interviewed so many different federal prosecutors and former FBI top officials and they'll say they've never heard of such a thing. But this was James Cumming and his confederate who decided they wanted to clear a path for Hillary Clinton to become president because Donald Trump threatened to drain the swamp and they were the swamp and didn't want to be drained. In there and let me ask about that. Well, Uh, let me ask about one other thing. What does it say about the other ten charges that they couldn't come to a verdict on. It shows that they overcharged the case. Uh, which underscores how over zealous and unprincipled and unscrupulous that Mueller's team is. Uh. These are people who cannot be trusted to be fair and the average American, how's the average American? Well, let me give you some other breaking news as we speak here. Uh, so we have the news. Uh. Michael Cohen got very emotional as the judge discussed the possible sentence. And in the federal court, as we've been reporting all day, that they had made a deal with the Southern District of New York, played guilty to federal charges stemming from hush payments to women who claimed to have had affairs with the president bent under investigation. Saw da da da. Cohen was shaking his head, appeared to be holding back emotions as the judge judge reviews the possible sentence. Cohen faces a likely prison term of forty six to sixty three months. The judge said Cohen was charged with eight specific counts evading personal income taxes, making an unlawful corporate campaign contribution, making a false statement to a financial institution, making an excessive campaign contribution in October of t um and okay, that it's all the same. Where is the Russia here, David, where is it? There's no Russia whatsoever. Again that we have to keep our eye on the plea book we for this campaign finance business. What did he say? Is he going back on what he said earlier? You know, the tansiential issue, the effect on the civil cami meaningless. But you know, now Abanati certainly will argue that there was an illegal contract from the start there or you know, he wins the case, and of course Abanati hears to be the presumptive Democratic Party candidate for presidents, the Abanati Daniels ticket to um. Yeah, exactly. Alright, stay right there. We're gonna take an early break here more expecting press conferences a lot in the final hour of the program today, uh and eight nine one, Shawn. We'll also be joined by Joe Dejeneva. He's always interesting. That's coming up in the next hour, and Andy McCarthy is gonna be checking in as well in the next hour. So we'll get a lot more in terms of perspective. Andy worked for the Southern District of New York, just like really Rudy Julianni did. Probably one of the most respected in the entire country. Anyway, So we'll we'll get you more information. Eight counts as it relates to Manafort. Eight counts, uh, as it relates to Cohn and we have ten counts. The jury deadlocked, no decision as it relates to the Paul Maniphor case, which I think speaks volumes. By the way, No Russia, no collusion, no Trump, no campaign. Alright. Eight one, Sean, I want to remind you about the best cup of coffee you will ever have in your life. 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