All right, glad you're with us. Thank you, Scott Shannon toll Free. It's eight hundred and ninety four one, Sean. You want to be a part of this extravagance, and you cannot believe the mishmash that is Joe Biden day. What's seventy five now of him hiding in his basement with only a ten minute reprieve and another disastrous Yeah, I mean, what do you want to call it a performance? Obviously, no fastball, no curveball, nothing. We'll get to that. In the course of the show. We got a lot of updates with a deep State today news we made nobody paid attention to. Apparently unmasking at a spectacular level now has become part of John Dorham's investigation. They have also appointed another federal prosecutor. The DJ's also going to be weighing in with this three judge panel as it relates to Judge Emmett Sullivan's you know, unbelievable in my view, misconduct in the particular case by not dropping the case and then literally inviting every group in the world that has a political agenda to weigh into this. We'll hit that today as well. There are a lot of things angry me today. One the most the more I see this interview, this video rather of what happened in Minneapolis with George Floyd, I get I am. Now I'm almost borderline apoplectic about it. I just if it infuriates me for a lot of different reasons. Now, I'm going to be consistent because I always am, and that is okay. We don't rush to judgment. We believe in due process, process, we believe in the presumption of innocence. But with that said, our eyes show us so much wrong here. It makes my blood boy. Number one, we saw no evidence whatsoever of George Floyd resisting in any way, and let me lay as a foundation. We're talking about the crime they're looking into. Here's about a possible counterfeit twenty dollar bill. That just some context to this here. Now, do I think crimes should be punished, Yes, arrest made, Yes, phone calls made of the cops, Okay. Dan Bongino said it best on TV last night. Once you have somebody that is not resisting in handcuffs, it's over. The fight is over. That's number one. I have spoken a lot about my seven years now in a row training mixed martial arts. It's an eclectic blend of arts. It is crab magaw keempo, Brazilian jiu jitsu, boxing, situational street fighting. We do blade sticks, firearms, a lot of training, a lot of training, a lot of what happens, if this happens, if that happens. And you know, I don't really I'm not into like posting everything that I do on social media because I don't think people give a rip anyway, and I think a lot of it is based in vanity. But I do it for two reasons. Number one, it is a hard work out, great workout. I like to be able to defend myself and having an alternative when you train. And as I have gotten deeper and deeper into the arts, it didn't take long to figure out there are certain very specific strike areas. If your life is being threatened, the most vulnerable part of a human being is their neck. It's just a fact. It's well known. And so we don't see George Floyd resisting arrest. Then we are watching as the minutes tick by the police officer in this case, and again I don't even see that anybody. I've not hurting anybody, say anything contrary even my all my law enforcement friends, Bernie Kerrig last night, Dan Mongino last night, so many others contacting me, they cannot believe what they witnessed here. Because what you have is the officer taking his knee and if you watch, as we pointed out last night, the right foot of the officer, all the weight is on that left knee right into the neck of mister Floyd, which is and his head into the pavement. Now it went on. We never got the exact time and somewhere, but it went on at least six minutes, maybe as high as hey. I keep reading conflicting reports. We weren't even able to totally confirm that. And his arms are behind his back, and he keeps saying over and over again as that there's a huge amount of pressure on this man's neck. When he was saying he can't breathe, he couldn't breathe. And I can tell you I actually trained this morning, and I had long discussions with my sense a sense A Glenn, he's been on the program before, a great guy. And you know there are targeted strikes. For example, if somebody has any knowledge of martial arts, a lot of you know, how you defend yourself, I'll walk away. You can call me any name in the book. I'm gonna walk away. I'm gonna walk away backwards, looking at you until and diffuse any situation because I don't want to use what I've learned because it's that dangerous and you have to be you have to be careful. But if you take one strike, targeted strike to the karated and you can go online and google it, there's videos out there this happening. If you do it, then you'll see a person literally, if it's a good strike, they're gonna drop to their knees. They're gonna drop right down. I was watching one of the videos this morning. Not only did the guy it was a really well trained artist. The strike was perfect, it was one strike, fight was over. The guy literally nailed as carotid. The guy went down. When the guy got up to try and start walking again, it fell down again, then fell down a third time. Because what it does is for that brief second, of that brief second now of that strike, it cuts off all the blood circulation going to one's brain. There are trait holds that are banned by pretty much every police department. You have, choke holds that are banned now by most police departments because they recognize the severity of that kind of treatment. It is such a it is such an egregious error in judgment at it's flabbergasting to me. Is it was full on to me. And again, my eyes aren't deceiving me. This is a human being. He's down there, so I can't breathe. If you know anything, I can't believe that this officer did not understand the severity of this, because it was full on, hardcore pressure and literally pinning this guy's head to the pavement. In all honesty. If you, for example, if I did, say an arm drag into a choke hold, and I got my arm in solid around your neck, and I applied pressure as I've been trained to do, and that pressure would go on corrodotateries on both sides, you would pass out in fifteen seconds. Now I did it today with my sense. I've been feeling good all day. As a result, I said, all right, put me in a holt. I think I made nine seconds and I tapped out because I was going to pass out nine seconds, fifteen seconds, maybe twenty. If you really have a tight hold, it's you're done and in that sense, and then I'm watching this, what the hell are they doing? And the other cops are there, and this is inexplicable to me. They're just standing there and this goes on and on and on and for six solid minutes. The guy's bet he's not resisted begging to get up. When you have an apprehension, Dan Bongino's right, guy's not resisting. Got him, coff, You put him in the back of the car. You know, you sort it out at the station in the terms of Okay, you're being charged with this, it's probably going to get a citation and walk out. I mean, it's unbelievable to me, and it's very frustrating. From the standpoint is it's sort of like, you know, the shock of when Joe Degenivas said on TV night, you know about came and others, they're dirty cops. I flinched because my mom was a prison guard. My my mom, you know, she's kind of a you know, a short woman, you know, elderly. You know, she's in a prison all day and so at times you have to deal with prisoners, but they have very specific techniques. You've got to protect people as well. And in this case, this is a there was never one second of need for this six minutes. It then becomes I there's no surprise if you understand anything about the sensitivity of the neck, why this guy died and if that cop maybe somehow lost perspective in the moment, somebody else should have stepped in and said get him in the car, now, get your foot off his neck. He's not doing anything. And it frustrates me because then the you know, then we have the the predictable. All cops are bad. They're not bad people, the ninety nine percent of them, but there's one percent that would use force such as this. They give every cop a bad name. And we have to be careful that we we don't rush to judgment and think all cops are this way most cops. You know, Look, being a CoP's not an easy job. There's never gonna be in a rest usually where a cop is using any type of force and putting you in handcuffs, and if somebody's resisting, it's gonna look that much worse. But cops don't know when they pull people over if they have a gun. Cops don't know if you have drugs in the car, you know it's you don't know. At any given moment, you really really really need to be in charge and safe and you have to balance all of this and if once, but but the rule is the rule. Once a person is in your control and not resisting, it's over. And the fact that this was allowed to go on, and the fact that it happened in the first place, there is I see no rationale whatsoever that I can manufacture as somebody that always wants to give people the benefit of the doubt because sometimes as circumstances you don't know. I don't believe in trial by videotape. I believe these guys have a right to a fair trial. The tape, to me, though, is devastating, and I watch it and I get angrier every time I do. Because listen, if if you, for exact, if you do a poke of somebody's track, if you, if you're trained, you take you know where your trake is, you feel just below your Adams apple, There's like this little space there you go in you hit that, just poke at it and you target it and you hit it. They're gonna go down. If you put your somebody in a choke hold, a trake hold, the odds of death are high. You know you're going to hurt that person. There might be situations people need to use that, but that's not your first option. That's one of your last options. And you know, Sean, it's something that we were talking about a little bit before, which is that, you know, the whole situation here, everyone who's seen the tape is just as outraged. You know, this should be a memory of being of solidarity of everybody's saying this was wrong. But this is not every cop. And we need to focus on the fact that this guy was turning his life around and it was taken role apparently becoming a very very Christian man turning his life around. But others are using it for divisiveness, and that's not Okay, that's not what this is about. Was a component to this, You're right, I mean, you know what did we watch too? We watched okay, a target store looted, a liquor store looted, fires auto zone. The police chief erranando, you know, saying they didn't have a police presence because they didn't they didn't feel that they could handle it. Well, we gotta get them to help to handle it. Al Sharpton is now headed there. It is so sad to me that life is precious. You know, the President when he says we're one glorious nation under God, where one united American family, He's right, we are. And as a Christian, and I don't talk a lot about my faith, I don't think people want me to proselytize. But as a Christian, we all are created in God's image. All of us are created. And that's a life with that knee on the neck, and that life is now gone, and it didn't have to happen. It's sad and words cannot describe how I feel today. I'm so angry from a lot of different angles. And I know we're gonna say I pray for this guy's family. You know. The sister actually came out and she said, literally, they murdered my brother and the family saw it. But the girlfriend came out and said, but the looters and the rioters do not speak for him. He would not want this. It's brother, I think said that. You know he wants the death penalty. I just it's so unfortunate that. Look, I believe in peaceful protesting. Don't go looting stores, putting stores on fire. We have enough trouble with the economy, jobs lost, and it's it won't do any good. And the people that are the leaders, you've got to be leaders now. Protest all you want, you know, right, you have a right and a righteous anger here, but that part of it has to not happen for everybody's sake. We do have some other aspects of this that we're going to get into. As it relates to George Floyd, and he was unemployed due to coronavirus. He moved to Minneapolis, wanted a fresh start and his life. According to all the accounts that I've read, and we'll find out soon, he was he was hoping for a new life and he has a lot of lifelong friends and lost his job at a bounce as a bouncer with the stay at home order there and uh, you know this was about passing a counterfeit twenty dollar bill. Um. These are these are simple fundamentals you're gonna be in law enforcement. The fundamental is easy. Once somebody's in custody, once they're not resisting, that's it. It's over. It's at that is the end of it. The amount of pressure on the neck, I knowing what I know, I am telling you it is like it is the single dumbest, unnecessary thing I've ever seen. It breaks my heart to see this twenty five nowns at the top of the hour, eight hundred and ninety four one, Sean, if you want to be a part of the program. I'm also angry about a lot of issues involving Corona. It's frustrating beyond words. Um So this goes on. What was the total time? I've seen it written up every way in sideways and no definitive time to I see six minutes, I see up to eight minutes. What was the total time, Linda, do you know it was nine minutes? All right? It was nine minutes with nine minutes. Nobody can survive that. That's a death sentence. This is and this is hard to listen to. And we played it a lot last night and I again, the more I look at this, the angrier I get. I didn't you know, I'm so wrapped up in a lot of other coverage. I didn't see it till late yesterday and I looked at it. I said, you gotta be kidding me, And then I kept looking at it and looking at it. Here is George Floyd if you have kids in the car, you may want to lower the volume. Here's him scream I mean I can't breathe here now, I'm just telling you as somebody, that is a real He couldn't breathe. He wasn't resisting. That is a death sentence right there. It is so frustrating. Um. We we mentioned that what he had done after coronavirus, he moved from Houston into Minneapolis. He wanted to get a fresh start in his life. By all accounts, all the people. You know, he'd lost his job when the Minnesota governor issued a stay at home order and you know it was Employeed grocery store called the police after he allegedly tried to pass a counterfeit twenty dollars bill. I mean it must have been on the surface. I don't recall ever, if you've ever given somebody a hundred, if they usually take out this marker, and you know, I mean, maybe it was just such a bad counterfeit. I don't know, I don't know it it's twenty dollars. That's another thing. Where is the context in things here? Then we got the other video which showed that even when they were walking him before the choking incident happened here, and the knee on the neck incident happened. He was not resisting arrest in any way, shape, manner, or form. He wasn't. Missy is in West Virginia. Missy, you're on the Sean Hannity Show. Son, Thanks for taking my call. I wanted to make a couple of points, if you'll let me. First off, I was a cop for twenty years. Watching that video on your show last night, I had to turn my back and listen to you because it disturbed me. A couple of things that really bother me is if this was over a counterfeit bill. The jurisdiction that I worked for, we couldn't arrest somebody for a counterfeit bill. We would take the evidence, take their name, and call the Feds. The FEDS handled counterfeit bills. We didn't have the right to arrest somebody for that. That's the first problem. Number two, I would think that if you're passing phony bills that look, that's obviously a crime, and in a way you're stealing from the merchant that you're handing it to, and and it's fraud, etc. I would think you would have the right to do that. I don't even think that's an issue here. The police were called if he if he broke the law. We don't even know if that part is true. Yet again, I want everybody presumed innocent. But I just I can't get through I can't get past this tape, Missy, I can't right. The second point that I wanted to make, if you'd let me, is I would like people to take a step back because this did not happen because of race. That is a key component in it. That's a hot spot for people. But when this goes to court, for twenty years of testifying in court, race has never been brought up in any court testimony that I've ever taken place in. I know that's hard for people to handle because he is a black man. He did have his throat stepped on by a white man. But please take a second and look at step back from it for a second. This did not happen because he's a black man. This happened because of a poor choice by one or maybe the three other officers that were standing there. We don't know, because again we don't know what happened on the other side of the car. We don't know why he wasn't immediately put in the car. That I don't know. I don't want to pass judgment on that. What I saw it disturbed me. He broke every law and rule of training. You do not ever leave anyone on their stomach because of positional asphyxia. You support somebody's head even when they're on their side, because your head weighs eight pounds and you could cut off your karate just by leaning your head. I've supported many a prisoner who we put on their side, who were under the influence of drugs, or who were injured, or that we had to wrestle. The first thing that we do after they're in cuffs, everybody would get him on a side, get him up. You don't leave anybody in that position. And the last thing, you never put any force on anybody's neck. That's disturbing. That man did not have to die. But please, people come back from a place of peace. The facts need to come out. Please don't make this black and white. Not all cops are bad. I was not a bad cop. I was a good cop. You sound like you sound like a well trained work professional. And I pray for his family because they didn't deserve this. No, they didn't this didn't have this, this was so this didn't have to happen. That's a sad part. But you people like you, Missy, obviously you are a seasoned pro and you know every aspect of this and everything I know about law enforcement, it's the same thing that you do. Anyway, we appreciate your call. Thanks for all you do twenty years on the job. We appreciate it. And you know, as far as the racial component that in reporting in some of this, I don't know anybody that has come out to defend this, not a single person, you know. The President tweeted, I have asked, at my request, the FBI and Department of Justice already well into an investigation as to the very sad and tragic at the Minnesota of George Floyd. I have asked for this investigation to be expedited, and greatly appreciate all the work done by local law enforcement. My heart goes out to George's family and friends, and justice will be served. Presidented that early also, and anyway, back to our phones, Let's say we have Brandon in Atlanta, WSB. Brandon, how are you my old home down south? I was talking to Neil Borts recently. He sends his regards from his sports bus. Anyway, what's going on, So we'd love for you to come back. We could probably offer you a large pay. And by the way, I'm not going to come and ruin the state that and force or vote for people that supported the policies that ruined this state. I mean they ruined it. But anyway, go ahead, sir. Well, I'm a real estate appraiser for a living stuff. You ever do, decide to come back here to let me know, I'll find he's the best deal possible. But I've got three cops in the family. One of them I sat when and taught last night is the section chief of the US Marshall's Office in the Georgia Division here. He's a quiet guy, and he looked me dead mine and said, ninety five percent of most people will show you that they're going to run or they're going to fight at immediate confrontation. He said, if they do not fight you, they probably are not going to very small chance. He's I've been on the job of twenty five years, he said, I've been in Columbia, been in lots of countries, kicking indoors, gang bangers. You name it Serving Warrens. For some of the nastiest people. He said, they either go down or they fight straight off the river. He said, this guy right here, if you'd just put him in a car, it wouldn't have been a problem. He showed no aggressiveness, He did not show that he wanted to fight. He said, there should have it. If they were so scared of him, they should have shackled his legs and put him in the backseat of the car. What they did makes no sense to anybody. I mean, this guy was a tactical training instructor with the Marshall's Office, and he said, his mind's blown. He said, I don't understand what I saw and what I saw him doing. Andina was going to join us later, and Bernie Kerrick was on the TV show Laws. I'll saying the same thing. Bertie was the head of New York State Prisons and the police chief in New York City. Never this never happens, You never do this. This is and for the amount of time and the amount of pressure on that guy's neck, it was a death sentence. As Sean, before I let you go, I have one question, Yes, sir, When they got rid of the Nixon tapes. That tells me that everything in the White House is recorded, this supposed meeting with Comey and Yates and all these people. Why can't we just pull the tape out and play it for what it is and find out what was said, and let the tape speak for itself. My understanding is the those days are long gone, and for good reason. A president that needs he, any president, needs the ability to talk confidentially about issues and throw ideas around, and he needs to do it in confidence or else. Nobody's ever going to give a president good advice if they think they're being recorded. Never Anyway, I appreciate you called my best, all my friends in Atlanta, matt Twin Cities, Minnesota. How are you, sir? Glad you called? Good marketing? Are good afternoons shown? Thanks for taking my call. Thank you. You're a police officer. He up in the Twin Cities. You're not for Minneapolis. But this is a horrible, just absolutely devastating thing that happened. But he and I don't have any insight, but something that happens in law enforcement circles occasionally when someone resists arrest and there's a struggle and they're possibly under the influence of drugs or something like that. They later die of what they called excited delirium. And I don't know if you're familiar with it at all, but it's probably the neck. The pressure on the neck probably didn't kill him because he was already in a lot of distress. And Matt, Matt, I have to passionately disagree with you. You know, google m martial arts strikes of to the karaatea to see if that. I don't know if anything will come up by sense. They showed me some videos today. Oh and if you if you target listen, to be honest, he could have died in fifteen seconds there, maybe less. I mean, the amount of force on this man's neck. Now you're talking about, okay, if it might have this delirium thing, but I think you're trying to thread a needle. You can't thread here because now think about it. Does your training allow you to go for somebody's neck or you train just the opposite, like Missy just said, just a neck restraint, not a karated at all, correct and and only only to the extent necessary. In fact, this went on this long is just inexplicable. It absolutely is. Yep, and again I don't have any insight, but I look, maybe maybe you're right. I have no idea. It's the use of force. I've never seen anything like this. I agree, I agree, but this excited delirium thing does happen. I have heard of it. I understand, but I'm telling you, I you know, I did this. We haven't done this in a long time, but um with my martial arts instructor today since Glenn and I'd like, all right, you know we'd started. I started doing arm drags into a chokehold, and after I did my pride. You know when we immediately once you once you feel that you've got both karateds with your arm around and a real choke hold. And again a trake hold is a different hole. At that point in time, you know you'll he'll tap. I said, all right, hold it for a few seconds. Let me see how long I can go. And I tapped out at like nine seconds maybe eight, because I was and I felt bad the rest of the day until like came on the Bradio program. Because it literally cuts the blood to your brain. Now we do it as part of our training, so you know what it feels like. We even do pain days. So because you're not going to be in a situation where you can fight to defend yourself successfully unless you can take pain and can take a hit. So we purposely take hits. I know it sounds a little nuts, but it's part of the training and I buy into it. I love the arts. I want to get better at it. Even though I'm an older person, I still do it. It's great exercise. John and Tampa, Florida. John, thank you for calling What's on your Mind w FLA. Thanks Sean, I finally once think you're wrong. We don't know what happened in between the two p A video. The cops did not just get him to the other side of a sub and decided to throw him on the ground. Something happened. As far as the death. The video does look damning, but we don't have an autopsy yet. I will give this cop the benefit of the doubt until we have an autopsy. There's one moment in that video where that cop where he put his hand and says he looks exhausted. That was a big man. When he looked at him off the ground to walk around the sub, he towered over this small Okay, now, now slow down, a second. All right, let's say it's the eight minute mark. He had full on pressure on the guy's neck for that period of time, pushing his neck, pushing his knee into his neck, and his face into the pavement. There's nothing that you're gonna say here that's gonna convince me, John, that is that is excessive force at a level I've never seen. Sean, we don't have the restive videoble you say this. The guy was. He was not a threat to any officer in that moment. You pull, you pick him up, he's cuffed, you put him in the car. You don't keep your your especially the neck. I am telling you, remember, Eric, I remember, and everybody was saying it was a chokehold. It wasn't actually technically, and I explained that part was a headlocked. If I'm talking, I'm breathing correct, Yes and no. I mean that may sound stue. What happens if, for example, well my sense put me in a chokehold today and he literally then put supplies. Well, it's seven years of training. I'm not saying that I'm the most knowledgeable man. I'm just somebody. I'm a student of the arts, and I'm just telling you when he put me in a chokehold and and he got me, meaning he has both karates and he applies pressure, I will I'm telling you I'm out in fifteen seconds. Out hold. Every cop has and every cop has to know that. It's a tragic loss in that how you look at it, when he stopped speaking, they should have been needed immediately checked his pulse and done more. It was you can't. You're missing my whole point. I am telling you that pressure on that neck, nobody can survive that. It's impossible. You cannot put that type of pressure on the neck like that period he's saying he can't breathe to the extent he's losing all blood flow to his brain. He couldn't breathe, and there's a certain panic that arises out of that. All right, Well more on the other side, now, a lot of news on the coronavirus front. We'll get back to this in our news round of information overload hour and much more as we continue, all right, our two Sean Hannity's Show eight hundred and nine four one. Sean, you want to be a part of this extravagant We do have so much other news that we're not getting to here today. The battle over social media, Now, this is an interesting battle, uh, for a lot of different reasons because there's certain well, Number one, the guy that Twitter has, I mean, this is just ridiculous of rabid Trumpeter, their head of site integrity, the guy in charge of this referred to the President's team in the White House as actual Nazis in the White House. Really, Uh, you gotta jack at Jack at Twitter seriously, the head of your site of integrity. Uh. So that's problematic in a lot of different ways. The President now talking about an executive order. There is a real significant issue that is involved here because of the fact of how these different you know, the characterization and this gets into a much deeper argument or debate that we'll have later on how they character arise a site like Twitter matters because some if in other words, liability laws kick in if they're gonna start editing content. And now the Attorney General will look into that. Joe Biden has had more more flubs in the last twenty four hours. It is unbelievable. We'll try and get to that today. But the latest on the coronavirus opening the country opening safely, our medical a team means doctor Oz is back. How are you, sir, I'm doing very very well. Let me start before if I may. I'm sure, like all of us, you have you seen the video of this, this death of this guy George Floyd in Minneapolis. I saw it. It's horrible, horrible, Sam, sure that most of the country has. You know, we've become friends. You know. I'm into martial arts training, and I'm not saying I'm an expert. I've been doing it seven years and Frank, I am a student. I just like it. I train with it. It's a good workout and one of the things that as we practice situational self defense, will do, for example, an arm drag into a choke hold, and we do it on each other. And if I have the right hold and I do it properly and I put pressure, I'm literally cutting off the blood supply to both carodid arteries. When a trad hold, obviously that that is infinitely more dangerous, and I think every police department has banned that. Separate and apart the pressure that this officer is putting on his neck for almost for eight minutes or longer, straight into straight into the pavement, full on it looks like full on force. To me, no neck can survive. Doctor oz from from just my limited knowledge, is not being a doctor. When we when we train, we know that that's a targeted strike. If I strike somebody's carodo artery and a targeted strike and I hit it right, that person's going down to their knees. How dangerous. So many ways, so many ways. First off, within three seconds of truly including the caradons, the pistone pass out. That's why if you're skipping heartbeats, we get nervous if your heart rate drops below twenty because that means that you're going to start having syncope, which is fainting episodes. In this case, he obviously wasn't completely obstructing him initially because the poor man was crying out for help and just you know, asking saying he can't breathe. But what I just don't understand is apparently he lost consciousness, which is a very dangerous phenomenon because the arteries inside the neck could have been injured. He certainly could have been blocking the blood supplied to the brain even if you didn't destroy the artery, and you can be blocking the trachea, so no air can move or all of those scenarios, but then the man loses consciousness. I just don't understand what the point of continue means. A pot pressure there, he was not moving and when the paramedic came and I didn't see this video, but I've read reports on it, apparently checked the pulse and they quickly put him on a stretcher. I'm curious if he had a pulse then they declared him dead at the hospital, but you know, he may have. He made us come to the scene. I mean, I want to see this autopsy. I think we all deserve to have an honest assessment of what injuries happened to his neck. But the video of speech for itself, and police officers are trained in this and as you know, but Dan Bongino is going to join us later said, once somebody is not resisting and they're cuffed, it's over. The fight is over. The battle is over, and you're the professional, and you put them in the back of the car and if they need medical attention, they get medical attention. I tweeted out yesterday a series of tweets, and that is the things that we have learned. I'm going to read them off real quick. What we learned right and wrong, and it's very simple stuff. The experts, the models, the doctors were all wrong. China lied. We need to start manufacturing our own medical equipment and medicines at home. We learned we got to protect older Americans like they did in Florida and Texas and elsewhere, and if we don't protect them like New York, New Jersey, Sylvania, Michigan, it will be an unmitigated disaster. We learned travel bands, quarantines are smart, nod xenophobic. We learned that medical supply chains, food supply chains that never closed, were perfectly the people wore masks, and I talk about that example to you often. We learned that, you know, We learned who all the heroes are. Doctors like yourself, nurses, janitors, and hospitals. The manufacturers of our medical equipment kept New York alive, the entire food chain up to the grocery store clerks and the guys that stock the shelves. We learned that we can we can mobilize like no other country, the fastest largest medical mobilization in history. And you know, so these are solid lessons. How do we apply all that to reopening? Well, let me if I can't add one or two more. When you look at hospitals like mine, who are able to keep COVID boards, people places where people had COVID nineteen separate people who didn't have COVID nineteen and did not have crossover. And there was a beautiful article written from a Toguandhi up in Boston on this topic, and it served as cribs of all medical professionals learned, which is, wear a mask, keeps six feet away if you can't wear a mask, or vice versa, and then make sure you wash your hands. Those simple tactics dramatically change how these viruses move around hospitals. They will also change how they move around shopping malls and stadiums and places of worship. So the key steps that we need to take are going to include those three. And if we do that, and that's the main price we pay to be able to open our country up. I think most of us are patriotic and up and kind and up to each other because wearing the mask protects the person across from you, not you as much to do those things. And I know that there's people arguing back and forth, and I don't want this to be a politicized debate about masks. It's just a simple observation that in a hospital this works. So if it works in the most dangerous place possible, it's probably going to work in less dangerous places. Pretty well. We just had data overnight to suggesting that mass in general reduced the effectiveness by about fifty percent. Imagine changing how this virus behaves to more like you know, the classic flu. It would give us a lot of comfort. As he opened the country, I think that you know, you're you're obviously on top of this, but we learned a lot, and we learned some lessons the hard way. I don't think people purposely made decisions, you know. The one thing as all the projections and all the models and all the advice changed. And you know that I respect doctor Fauci. He's been wrong a lot on this. Now he's saying there may not be a second wave, and then he's saying we may not have to wear masks. I'm like, you know, can we please. It's frustrating to me, and it's frustrating to people that want to get back to work and get back to their normal life. It's frustrating everybody. But I tell you, the limited amount of insight that we had about these kinds of phenomenon was shocking. I mean, we sort of had data from the Second World War and how far soldiers who had strepped through coughed, and how far they bacteria went when they coughed. We had observations of school children with infectious disease, and we strapolated that to billions of people. We just didn't have much I'll take the biggest example was I thought, so. I think most doctors thought that the virus particle itself infected us, and so a mask would not work that well because the mask can't block a virus particle. It turns out, from what I can understand, it's mostly virus within a globule of spit, right, A little bit of is gesticulated material that leaves your amount. That means a droplet has to pass into your nose, not the virus itself. Well, a mask can stop a droplet bok go of coming out and going in. So now you begin to think, okay, common sense would dictate this would be an important thing for me to do. And I keep fielding questions about those signs of topics. But once you understand the principle, it makes sense. I'm impressed at how much we have learned so quickly, but it's disappointing how little we knew at the time. And now I think it gave lots of people the wrong information. And the modeling you spoke about, which has really been an embarrassment in many ways because the modeling speaks more the MODELU and what really happened and people people need big decisions based on these models, and they turned out to be not nearly as accurate as they at least they didn't. They projected themselves pretended to be more accurate than they ended up being, and that has hurt us a lot, you know. All Right, So now we're at this point where, by the way, did you see the information on Sweden? They went They had a less intrusive model, which they called the Hurting model, And in the beginning, I know, I stayed away from even talking about it because it didn't look like that was going to work to me, just my gut, not because anybody that did report on it wasn't reporting truth. I just had I had my suspicions. Turns out their death rate is now the highest. They have a high death rate, but if you ask the two things. Ire on to point out, first, we really should all be rooting for these different countries who are trying things, because what if it worked. I mean, they went and did something different from us. They're paying a price for it. But I wanted took people to try things if they thought it was going to work with their people, and they're different than we are to get it to work. But here's the most profound thing that leadership them of their health system is said, and he was very sanguine about. He said, listen, you might not like what we're doing, but you're eventually going to do what we're doing because when you open, you're basically like us. So if you open your state up and you limit the number of people in a restaurant, you have people to wear masks and you ask them socially distance, you're basically doing sweet. You're just doing it without the shutdown and without the lessons learned that we achieved by shutting down. So I think everyone is happy we shut down and got some of those important messages clear and everyone understands what we need to do. But now we basically are moving towards as Swedish models because we're doing what they're already doing. They're just a couple of months ahead of us because they never shut down. What about and I guess there's a risk in everyday life had we not had the travel bands, the numerous ones, the first one after ten days after the first identified case, if we didn't have the quarantine, if we didn't do the shutdown, I mean, I know it's an estimate, but in my mind, exponentially, I mean, millions more potential lives who are at risk here are hundreds of thousands minimum. Am I wrong? I think you're right. I think we were way behind when we started. And even the one week difference in when Stage shutdown compared to when New York shutdown made a huge difference to those spaces. And I think part of the reason California wasn't hurts badly. And they are many factors. They are not quickly, they're not as dasty, pot you know, populated, you know, but they weren't as overwhelmed with foreigner, foreign folks carrying virus. But part of it was they stopped before the virus they progressed that much, whereas in New York, you and I are both year it really having already exploded by the time we shut down, and if we had made some of the other moves, it would have been even worse. So I mean, I'm a glass half empty guy. I was horrible. We lost one hundred thousand American lives, but another hand, it could have been many, many Moore, and some of the things we did were very difficult to imagine happening even in February, and yet brave leadership at every level let it progress. The question now is where does the grave leadership take us? Now? Are we willing to open? How much are we willing to tolerate. I don't think we're going to extinguish this virus. It's going to continue. They're going to be more people dying. They're going to be these brush fires that begin to expand and get start to scare out individual states. So we've got to develop some strategies to how to keep the states open, or at least figure out what parts of what states to shut down if they get into trouble. Let me ask you about a vaccine. Now, we keep hearing there are a lot in the pipeline. I've heard over twenty now separate real paths to a vaccine. But then on the other side of that there, I know they're going to be people that don't trust the vaccine. I know people that don't want to vaccinate their own kids. I personally believe in medical science and vaccines and the science behind it. I don't know if it's one hundred percent perfect, but that's my personal choice. I like to let people make their own choices. But what about a vaccine? How soon do you think we might be able to get one? I think one of at least one or two of these vaccines that you mentioned will be functional by early part of twenty twenty one. I'm hoping that they're dedicated because you won't have enough initially to the sixest people, the people, most vulnerable people, nursing homes, folks with multiple risk factors, diabetics, hypertensives, obese folks, and then slowed through as the population. But to your point, between a third and a half of the US population, depending on the surveys you look at, say they're not going to get the vaccine the day, which is again, I'm a physician, you know I've seen what happens when people aren't vaccinated. I personally would prefer people get a vaccine. I get a Vactionally, I didn't get a flu shout of there, and by the way, so do I and people people will saying to me, Hannity, Yeah, you keep saying I need to wear a man's No, don't worry. I'm not telling what people want to do. But if wearing a mask gets me to that baseball and football game, you know how I feel about that because I say it ten times a day. But doctor roj' been so generous as always with your time and expertise. We appreciate it. All right, let's get to a phone call here. Let's say hi to Lloyd Houston, Texas. Hey Lloyd, how are you glad you called? Sir? Hey Sean, how are you, sir? I'm good? What's going on? We got a minute? In ten seconds, It's all yours. I'll be quick. I'm an older white gentleman, and I agree totally what what you're talking about. I do not agree with the rioting and the also what the media is doing to help format that rioting. That has to stop. I mean, you know, do you think of now now innocent people other innocent people? Uh? And again the president is very clear he's moving towards an expedited justice acting immediately, and all of that is happening. The officers are fired. We're gonna have an investigation, and I would suspect that these guys are going to be brought at least the guy doing this, probably others brought up on charges. Um. You know, we have a we also have evidence here and you know, but hurting businesses that are already struggling, putting other people's lives at risk, that is not an answer. You want to peacefully protest, Peacefully protest, don't hurt other people in the process. Let justice. It's sometimes, as we know in Lakomi, the cave case way too slow, but it will happen. Going to accelerate our big infrastructure programs. We have the Empire Station project, which is building a new Penn station, which is long overdue. That Penn station has been torturing people for too long. Let's now accelerate the Empire pen project while the ridership is low and when we need the jobs. Accelerating La Guardia Airport, which is in the be the first new airport in this nation in twenty five years. Traffic is low, passenger volume is lower. Let's accelerate that construction now, and let's do things that we've been talking about for a long time, but we've never actually pulled the trigger on a US Just listening to this, how out of touch is the governor of New York. Let's accelerate, let's rebuild all a Penn station. But those that don't even know what Penn station is in New York. Okay, it's the underground system that includes subways and trains. They go to New York, Long Island, et cetera, New Jersey, the subways they go everywhere. You're gonna accelerate. You don't have the money to accelerate that. The Second Avenue subway that they've been trying to do for what was what has it been thirty years? Probably longer, right, forty years, that they never get done. Now they're gonna ask Red State citizens to pay for their dream wish list. Everything's free, let's redo. Loguardia Airport. LaGuardia is always under construction. It is the worst airport pretty much in the entire country. And it's always under construction. If I can't remember a time it has been under construction, I mean, and you get nothing in terms of anything from the State of New York. Well maybe they should have thought about these things. What did the mayor and his wife, what did they spend nine hundred million, one billion, almost one million dollars on her Get Healthy program? And nobody knows where the money is that Charlie McCrae, the Blasio's wife, and however they have never been held accountable. Okay, then you've got Cuomo spent seven hundred and fifty million New York tax dollars literally on a solar project in upstate New York. It failed, it's mothballed, that got bought out by somebody. Six hundred million dollars on a micro chip company that didn't go well either, ninety million on a light bulb, this all new Green deal crap. And now he's saying that what the people that live in states that elect responsible legislators and senators and governors that balance their budgets, fund their pensions, live within their means, have better infrastructure, better maintained than all of New York, and all the money that they get from taxes from taxpayers in New York. On the top of the New York City, they have their own set of taxes, you know. Now you got Comrade de Blasio wants what he wants, a nine billion dollar check. It ain't happening, say, isn't coronavirus related? And on top of it all, nobody in New York can even think of a way to open up New York safely. They have no plan. It's just a hodgepodge mix of everything, you know, throwing up against the wall. And you see this all over the place, all these democratic governors. The Commonwealth governor North remember him. We'll deliver the baby, and then we'll make sure the babies comfortable. Then we'll let the mother decide in consultation with their doctor, what we're gonna let the baby liver die. I mean that lunatic. He's not wearing a mask, telling everybody in the Commonwealth of Virginia to wear a mask. You got the Democratic New Mexico governor violating the coronavirus order kept a business open, Why so she could buy jewelry. Oh. The Michigan governor, now we know her husband, Oh it was only a joke, makes a phone call because he wants to get his boat in the water. People in Michigan they can't even cut their lawn. And then we find out that the governor governor shut down. Whitmer said about her husband that he went to their second home to rake leaves in the northern part of the state, and he came back right after he raked the leaves. But when she ordered the opening in some of these more rural areas of Michigan, she said to people, now, don't rush up there and overwhelm the area. Well, why did her husband go up there? And it's it's insane, you know, it is unbelievable. I've never seen anything like this, you know. And another thing to be angry about, CDC suggesting coronavirus fatality rate higher than the flu but eight times lower than the models and the estimates from the experts that you know, originally were projecting two and a half million dead Americas. You know, you have the great doctor Fauci. I have respect for doctor Fauci. He's dedicated his life to saving lives. But he's he hasn't been it anywhere close to perfect in this. You know, Earl in mid March saying you don't need to wear masks. Now he's saying you have to wear a mask. Then he changed his too, and now he's back to you know, well, the second wave now of COVID may never happen, and mask wearing is symbolic respectful, Okay, it would be my term, but you do what you want. But they don't know what the hell they're talking about. Now. A lot of it is because China lied. A lot of it is people made, you know, the best guests they have. This is you know, this is this is art as much as science. Sometimes when you're in the early stages of this, you gotta go with your gut here or there. The best person with the best gut ended up being Donald Trump. Travel band quarantines, subsequent travel bands. They were impeaching him at the time. You know, the media, sensationalism, what they told the public that would happen and didn't happen, and reality. Now, look, I'm pro life. I believe every life is a gift from God, and I want everybody healthy. And hopefully we're going to learn the lessons that I outline yesterday on the show, because if we look at the states that we're successful, we can learn from Governor de Santis, we can learn from Governor Abbott and even Governor Camp who I was critical of early on. I thought the tattoo parlor idea opening up, and the nail salon was a little nuts. So I was wrong on the nail salon. I still don't know about the tattoo thing. Why do I know them? Maybe they maybe they can cut out an area where the guy's just reaching under the plexiglass and do that. I have no idea. I wouldn't recommend getting a tattooed. Now. Wait, and I don't want to put people out of work. If you can figure out how to do it safely, I was gonna say, well, send Linda, She'll go get a tattoo for everybody. Oh my god, never, never, No, you don't you want to hear the mean side of me as a dad. My dad would kill me if I did that. I just told my kids, I just you know, burn it off. Oh yeah, I'm like, no, that's not happening. Oh all right, let's get to our And by the way, the debacle New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Michigan literally the single dumbest decisions in this entire pandemic. And then in New York it gets worse because the governor sneaks into a budget bill legal protections so that hospitals and nursing homes that donated a million bucks to him in twenty eighteen. They can't get sued as a result of what happened here. Well, putting COVID nineteen patients in the nursing homes was a bad idea from the get go. All right, let's go to jim Is in Illinois. Jim, Hi, how are you glad you called? Sir Sean. I'm just thought this governor Clomos absolutely culpable for the death of those people that he sent to these nursing homes and the nursing home people, the innocent citizens that we're living there, thinking that they're gonna, you had some normal life in their final days. And then this guy sends this you know, uh, he's just so and then he's so full of it. He's full of crap, trying to blame the president who who's done everything, been over backwards to enable these to give these governors, including him, every tool available, and he bypasses that system and sends it instead of sending him to the facilities provide by our president, he sends them to these nursing homes by his mandate. It was no one else. Oh yeah, no, no, First, he's blaming the nursing homes. I mean, there's a whole pattern of excuses here. He lashed out at the nursing homes. It's all about money. I'm like what. And then he said, you're responsible for your own PPE I'm like It took my breath away, because this is a guy that demanded everything from the federal government because he didn't listen to his own health task force. And they had no ventilators in the city or in the state, and they had two separate studies saying you're gonna need them, and they didn't get them. But Trump made it work. He got it done for them. Man, the facilities, built the hospitals, you know, gave all the ppee equipment. I mean, the biggest, largest, fastest medical mobilization in the history of mankind. And thank god, these manufacturers didn't shut down, and the food supply chains didn't shut down. On New York completely would have died. It's unbelievable. I'm so angry about it. I can't words, can't describe it, and it is beyond any comprehension I have. That was the one constant that always made sense the elderly, those with underlying conditions, those with compromise of immune systems are going to be the most vulnerable. They were last word, Jim, Yeah, I know, and I'm right there with you, Shun. And I don't know who's gonna hold him accountable. He needs to be held accountable. These people cannot keep sliding and getting and just passing the buck off to somebody somebody else for political gain and not having any consequences for their for the murder. It's especially murdered. What he did unbelievable, It's it's unreal. Then you got this situation. I can't even watch this video anymore. It upsets me so much that I cannot believe that this went on for between six and eight minutes. It is full forced knee head to the pavement, no resisting, handcuffed. It's over. It was over when it started. Put him in the back of the car. Somebody stand up and say stop. Unbelievable. I don't get it. It drives me nuts, all, you know, frustrating. All right, let's go to Jim and Utah. Jim, how are you? Thanks on veterans and hand radio greetings and so highlights. Oh you're you're great. The President's great Kayley is amazing. So highlights. Wife is a nurse. And by the way, wait you know that you're a great The President's great Kayley is amazing. Okay, keep going. So you want to hear a little factoid about Kaylee mcinanti. Lay it on me, brother. She once interned on my TV show, Your show's amazing. How's that? Well that worked for you a little late, but okay, a little late, shaking things up a little late on no recovery. So anyways, real quick. So wife say, registered urs in southern Utah, does home care and hospice, assisted living and some work for the state. Her sister is at a hospital administrator in southern Utah for the big one of the big hospitals, the HMO down there. Asking my wife in the beginning of March, when should I panic? When should I worry? When should I get nervous? I'll let you know. I'll let you know. I'll let you know. March or April, same thing, may same thing. Her sister's going nuts. Well, it's to shrink wrap the kids, shrink wrap the daring kids, shrink wrap the parents house. The bureaucracy at the big HM is I'm like the sky is falling in. What do you do? And my life sister, he says at the fourth town us from the models are pretty much what seeing broadcasts is what's occurring as make it are crazy. So it's just it just goes to show you that even everybody's under the banner of the CDC and the organization in the States that man as information is just flying back and forth, and it's one side of the other. One person in or assistant living facility that you worked for part time, ever had any symptoms one of the nurses test the positive kicked or loose for two weeks, but should have never been shut down. Of course, we're out in the rural areas all it's a bit busier. Look, I'm just giving you my anecdotal information about you know, I think we learned a lot. One of the things we learned is those that never closed the food supply chain, medical supply chain, you know, all the way through the guy stock in the shelves. They all wore masks and they didn't get it. And at least where I live, every store I've been to, I've been doing a number of them. It's not just one. I go to a number of stores. I've been trying, you know, I mean I don't I'm trying to spend money everywhere. Actually, I'm buying more food. I'm putting weight back on because I'm buying too much food from you know, my favorite restaurants, because I know these guys are suffering, they're dying, and they're like family to me. I think I only go to a few places and I love these guys. All right, thank you for a good call, Jim. We wish you the best in Utah. We have about ninety seconds. Hell, let's give it to Paul and Oklahoma. Paul, Hi, how are you glad you called? Good afternoon, mister Hannity, Good afternoon, sir. I think we need to ditch these masks. I think that we wake up from the time that every morning when we wake up and we go we go out and face the world, that we have risk that we take safely to do everything. I mean, I would have to just stay at home, all right. So you're saying nobody, you don't want any want to have masks on, or you choose yourself. I'm not saying that. Why do you think doctors wear them in operating rooms? Why do you think painters when they spray, they use masks. And I made that mistake once when I was a house painter and a car paint I used to paint. I painted a truck with imaran My lungs burned forever because I didn't have the proper respirator. Why do people wear masks can aspirate things. But I mean we can go through we can go through our entire lives scared of our own shadows. I'm not listen. I'll tell you I'm not wearing it about me. I would rather I personally, I am not afraid of this virus for myself at all. I'm not. I'm not trying but but but I do have contact with other people that have underlying conditions. As I've been saying, I'm gonna wear it because it's it's a short period of time we're talking about, and it's temporary, and I'm doing it for moms and dads, grandmas and grandpa's that would be susceptible if I contracted it and gave it to them, and I'd be asymptomatic for five days. From the time I was born, when I drew my first first breath, this world has tried to kill me, and I'm sure it's tried to do the same to every human being on earth. We can't. We're got it. We've got ourselves in a situation right now. We don't get people back to work. We're not gonna have to worry about it anymore. I'm all. But I'm telling you, in New York the grocery store, the guys that stocked the shelves wore the mass and none of them and none of the cashiers got sick either. They worked all right. I gotta run. Appreciate your thoughts though, Thanks for being with us. Paul eight hundred nine four one, Sean told free number. When we come back. The latest out of Minnesota, the tragedy that never should have happened, George Floyd straight a hud. Stay right here for our final news round up and information overload. So in an effort to try and cure this disease, I am stating exactly what everyone else has witnessed, and that is racism. UM. Today is a sad day for Minneapolis. It's a sad day for America. UM, it's a sad day for the world. I want to remind all of the people that are in the streets protesting. You have every absolute right to be angry, to be upset, to be mad, to express your anger. However, you have no right to perpetrate violence and harm on the very communities that you say that you are standing up for. We need peace and calm in our streets, and I am begging you for that. All right, news round up information, overload our some of the sounds of protesters, and of course some of the looting and writing that took place last night. That was the City Council Vice President Andrea Jenkins urging Minneapolis residents not to perpetuate violence. We have some updates on the story. Al Sharpton apparently is headed to Minneapolis, he said. He said today in Minneapolis, he'll meet with local clergy activists, lead a prayer vigil at the site where George Floyd was killed Eric Gardner's Mamela company Sharpton as they go there. The Minneapolis mayor wants the governor to call the national hard to quell the riots. We know that there is you know, temperature is very very hot. I've gone over this in great detail. Did it last night? Did it earlier? In the program? There seemed to be zero resisting of any arrest, and once somebody is handcuffed, and once they're not resisting, you put them in the back of the car. And there seems no justifiable reason whatsoever to put the knee on the neck of mister Floyd like this or anywhere between six and eight minutes. Basic one oh one training in any police academy. You know that the neck and chokes, in particular in this case, a knee literally pinning the neck down into the pavement is extraordinarily dangerous for ten seconds, never mind six minutes, and it ended up in the death of George Floyd. A lot of anger justifiable from my vantage point watching this, I know we don't rush to judgment. We always give a presumption of innocence. There's nothing in this videotape that shows that any proper procedures by any trained police officers were followed here, and people look at it. This guy is saying, I can't breathe again and again, and now they've all been fired. The four officers on the scene there, and there is an imminent movement towards a potential arrest in this case. For sure. The President I've been reading his statement has gone out there. He has ordered the DOJ the FBI to investigate George Floyd's death at my request. The FBI Department of Justice are already well into an investigation as to the very sad, tragic death in Minnesota of George Floyd called it a very very sad situation when he was going on his trip to see the launch that was then well didn't take off of SpaceX and the rocket ship. The President, you know, also has been very clear they want to expedite this as quickly as possible. Anyway, here to discuss this, we have Joe Collins is with us. He's a Navy veteran. He's a Republican congressional candidate for the California forty third district, that is Maxie Waters District. Dan Bongino is back with US, former Secret Service officer, Fox News contributor, has his own podcast and has also on the NYPD for a time. Joe, let's look at this from a standpoint and your take on it. We've all seen this video re racked and re racked over and over again, and I, for the life of me, cannot understand why somebody did not step in and say stop once the person is not resisting in the person's coffed, it's over and he and I didn't see any resistance on top of that, Yes, I absolutely had to be first. I want to say thanks for having me on your show. And I will say this, the excessive use of police force in this situation is utterly disgusting to me. But this is something that we see in the black community all the time, and I think, you know, I'm very disappointed in the people that are also writing right now. But one question we have to ask ourselves is when are when does our so called black leaders going to stand up and fight for the rights of Black America right because you see this over and over and over again, and these are these are things that are prevalent in our communities, and these are things that should be fall forward by our black leaders. Our Maxine Waters is in our in our and our Colent Bookers and Kamala Harris and these people do absolutely nothing for us. So it disgusted me to see these things happen over and over and over again. And unfortunately, at the we're at a point where you know, the writing is not going to solve anything. You know, some more senseless murders is not going to solve any thing, you know, trying to you know, go against the police force is not going to solve anything. We have to start taking it up on ourselves to create legislation that is going to stop things like this from happening on a regular basis. But I am utterly disgusted by what I've seen on the video. Dan Bunge. You know, you've been trained by the Secret Service, You've been trained by NYPD. They have some of the best training facilities in the country. Although they have incidents. You know, again, it's not the ninety nine percent of officers that protect and serve their communities, and that always needs to be pointed out because doing that job as an extraordinarily dangerous one. But you're also you're trained in mixed martial arts like I am, and we talk about it for hours on end, and you and I both know that if you go for somebody's track, if you hit their karated, if they're the amount of pressure that was put on this man's neck, George Floyd's neck is enormous for that period of time is a death sentence. We know just from our training it is that dangerous. Oh yeah, and I'm glad you started. I really hope that this doesn't grossly stereotype the overwhelming majority of men and women in law enforcement who I've worked with, who do a terrific job. Having said that, this individual is not one of those people. You know, just for a moment, I remember doing a Fox and Friends appearings. I was talking to Ainsley one morning and it was a tragic story about a cop killing himself. She said, Dan, tell the audience how dangerous of a job this is, and I said, well, you know, it's interesting, Ainsley. I get a text twice a year from friends of mine in the NYTD about a guy I went through with the academy, worked with or something who died. I said, can you imagine being in the radio profession or TV and getting a text twice a year that one of your colleagues was killed in the line of duty or someone you knew. So the overwhelming majority of cops that they would do great work. Again, this guy was not one of them. I get it. There probably is going to be a lot of information that comes out, and Sean, that'll be critical for telling the whole story, but it is not necessary anymore to tell the use of force story at that acute moment of time. And what I mean by that is this, we need to know what happened, for George's, for mister Lloyd's family, for everyone. The public needs to know what happens to start to finish. But the video is crystal clear. There is no that this is not opaque. The man had a knee on his neck for nine minutes. When I by the way, it wasn't just on It wasn't just on his day. His neck was pinned down to the pavement. And he's and he's keeps for repeating, I'll play it again. He keeps for repeating, I can't breathe. He's not a threat to anybody in that moment, and from what I could see, looked handcuffed Sean and the Golden Rule. I remember when I got out of the ATA, a couple of the more skilled police officers who've been around a while I worked in East New York Brooklyn was a dangerous everybody. I was a young kid is in my twenties. What does anybody know in their twenties? You know, I mean, really, what do you know in your early twenties? And I remember the saying to me, listen that stuff in the Academy's terrific. Keep it in the back of your toolbox. But here's the reality. Don't ever forget this is what they told me. Don't ever forget the hardened fish. I said this on your show last night. Here's the rule. When the guy or the woman is in cuffs and the resistance stops, the fight is over. End of story. It doesn't matter if you just arrested a stherial pedophile, if you arrested Charlie Manson. It doesn't matter when the cuffs are on end and there because people can still spit on you, kick you, and the resistance stuff. The fight is overman, watch the video. You've done this, John, You've been on the ground. You know what this is. I said last night, and I'll tell you again. Watch. The officer's right foot is on the neck. The right foot is light. Why do I know it's light because he's moving his toes. That's called the neon belly position. And the right foot is light meant stuff means the left leg is. It means all his weight was on the guy's neck. You can see it in the video. Really disturbing stuff, you know, Joe Collins, I understand the justifiable anger here. We just heard from the vice president of the city council. I understand there's going to be more protesting tonight. I never quite understand everybody should. I feel the outrage everybody feels. We all feel it peaceful protesting for justice, Okay, that that is our American right to do so. But when you see the videos and people see looting television and clothes and looting a liquor store, I saw, how does any of that help anything? It absolutely doesn't. It doesn't. And that just shows the peered lack of leadership and that community, that peered lack of leadership in that city. And I can tell you how I know. We've been organizing protests all across South Los Angeles whenever they did that unconstitutional shutdown. We have yet had any violence that at our rally, you know, regardless of whatever the situation is. So we need strong leaders to stand up and show these people if you're going to protest, this is the way you do it. But the looting, the stealing, the violence that's occurring after this, it's own call for. And I'm very disappointed in the leadership in that in that city and this he was a Christian man you know, he was a Christian man who was trying to get his life back together. And I heard I heard a significant other say or earlier today that this is not what he would want. He wouldn't want people out here looting, He wouldn't want people out here committing violence. He wants grace, He wants people to to sit and think about what's going on in our country today. I mean, and I put blame on Joe Biden as well, because he is pushing this rhetoric that you have to be black and in order to vote for him, and you not if you if you're with the president, and all these things that people are saying that even even the whole you know, it's racism. I want to percent highly doubt that this has anything to do with some sort of racism. So I'm disappointed in the majority's mainstream media that is pushing it that that narrative, as well as well as Black Lives Matter. I mean, these people should utterly, utterly be disappointed in themselves for the way they're conducting themselves. This is this is un American. All Right, we're gonna take a break, we'll come back more. Joe Collins, Dan Bugino We'll have more of this on Hannity tonight, nine Eastern one. We come out on the air. Uh. It is expected there will be more more protesting tonight. I hope it's peaceful. UH So that'll that'll happen tonight as we continue, Sean Hannity Show, eight hundred and ninety four one. Sean, you want to be a part of the program. We continue our coverage what is a tragic, tragic situation in Minneapolis, Uh, with Dan Bongino and Joe Collins, who's by the way, running against Maxie Waters in this upcoming election in one hundred and fifty nine days. Um. You know, I look at the bigger, broader picture here, and you know I've said this many years ago, Dan that I think cameras in cop cars, with audio cameras on cops, and now people with videos on the everywhere, it's going to be good to hold people accountable for their actions. Cops should want it for their own safety and protection. And you know what, we're getting more justice now as a result. You know, Sean, it's interesting you say, I know you have a family in law enforce, and me having been in law enforce, all my friends are cops, they told me after some initial reluctance when this first became widespread over a decade ago. The cops, actually, a lot of the cops I took, actually like this now because one, it weeds out the bad apples and true, like you said, it actually protects them because a lot of sometimes there are obviously false charges made both ways, and the police officers who do the right thing, they don't mind this check on them at all. And obviously again with this incident, Sean, I mean, I just can't encourage people strongly enough put all the politics aside. I know we live in a really there is a human issue. Yeah, just imagine it was your kid. Just imagine that for a se Joe Collins last word, and if you'd be horrified, We're gonna be watching your race closely. In one hundred and fifty nine days, you get the final fifteen seconds. All right, I'm gonna tell people this. We need to stand up as leaders. Then we need to show our community how leaders are supposed to act. If you are a representative, we need you to actually do your job. We need you to represent We're at a time where you know, we have to let our Christian values depict who we are, you know, and I am ready to lead. I'm ready to lead the forty third district. I'm ready to leave this country all right. I'm going to leave it there. Thank you both of being well us. When we come back on the other side, you're calls the eight hundred and nine four one Sean well Folk coverage tonight, we expect protests nineties certain on the Fox News channel. I know that our community is in trauma and that they are trying to find ways to heal. From the very beginning, I wanted to make sure and ensure and we will continue to do that to those who are wanting to express their First Amendment rights and go through this healing process that they will absolutely have that from me. And that is a guarantee as your Chief. But that being said, even prior to mister Floyd's death, we have had a community that has been in trauma for quite some time. And what I cannot allow, is chief, is for others to compound that trauma. And so if individuals, as occurred last night, our committing behavior in acts which are criminal and which are looting our businesses, as CONCI Vice president Jenkins had mentioned, are so vital to the health and vitality of our community. If they're looting those stores, if they're robbing people of essential needs and services for themselves, their families, and certainly in this pandemic, their loved ones. If they are setting buildings and structures on fire, which are harming the safety of our elderly in our youth, I cannot allow that. As chief, right that is the Minneapolis Police chief. His name is Police Chief Arandando. And by the way, you know, he was responding to the fact that there were no police presence at the locations during an evening in view. He said, our main priority for our officers there our safety and those who are out there. But he said went on, as you know, a target store, a liquor store, an auto zone store, we're all overcome by looters. And he said, our main priority for our officers is the safety of those that are out there, and that this cannot continue. And I would urge anybody if you want to protest, protest, protest peacefully. You know it was there was a moment last night Mike Toban on the ground for the Fox News Channel on our show last night where he was interviewing a guy that and then I'm a big concealed carry guy. I'm a big Second Amendment guy, had a gun in his hip. He was a former serviceman, passionate, understood the issues here, and UM it just when people see that, it ratchets up the heat in an environment like that for everybody. And UM I just I just hope that if people are gonna go out tonight and they're gonna protest, I hope they do it peacefully. It's clear from where the President's point of view is. The President has been very very clear on this. He's not changed his position. He's expediting. You got the d o J, you got the FBI. The President was very clear he wants this investigated. He sent his thoughts, his prayers to the family of mister Floyd, and he's now saying that the FBI is going to have an investigation, the DOJ, Department of Justice is going to have an investigation. Civil Rights Division will be involved, and based on the firings and based on what's happening, I would assume that that will happen probably in pretty short order. I think that I don't see any rational justification for what we witnessed on that video. And Dan Bongino. I think sent it best, and that is that you know, he was taught in the academy. All the people that I know that are in law enforcement. Once somebody stops resisting that not involved in resisting arrest in any way. Once they're handcuffed, that fight is over, and the adults in the room always have to be the police officers. But even that said, I didn't see any resisting of arrest whatsoever. You know, and then you think of well, what was this all about. It's about a twenty dollars what they believed to be a twenty dollar bill that was forged. You know, where is context perspective here? I'm not justifying crime. Criminals must be prosecuted if he was guilty, Okay, it did not rise to a level that we witnessed on this camera at all. Period. End of sentence. All right, let's go to our busy phones here. Let's say hi to Tanya. She's in North Carolina. Tanya, Hi, you're on the Sean Hannity Show. Hey there, how are you. It's so great to get through and talk to you. I'm good. I love you all so much. Thank you. You're making our day. What's going on? Nothing much. I just wanted to call in comment on all the things you while we're talking about regarding the riots and stuff. I think it's I think it's awful what happened to that poor man. My heart goes out to the family in that. And when I see the video, it fills me with disgust. It's almost like a smirk or something on his face. It just sets me on fire because the man was pleading and he should have stopped. And I was listening to Dan Bongino a little bit ago and the stuff that he was saying, and it just demand was subdued. He submitted. I mean no he did. There was there was no need for any more use of any physical force at that moment. And it went on and on and on for minutes. Exactly he should. I mean, it's no horrible to watch. Horrible it is, and it gives other cops, you know, as Dan was saying previously, a bad name in that because they're not all bad, obviously, but it does it just it just infuriates me. It was just it was horrible. It should have never happened. It should have never got that far, no way, shape or form. I was reading about the Feller's history and stuff. He was a good man. He was he was doing right, he was getting his life together. He was a godly manner. And it's just it's just really sad, and I just feel so sorry for everyone and the looting and stuff. That's not going to solve anything, obviously, because they're kind of shooting themselves in the foot because stuff just got opened and you know, going about life again. But it's just very unfortunate, very important. It's sad, and you know what, you know, the President would end his rallies with we are one great American family. You know, we are one people. You know we are, and there's got to be We've been talking a lot about this now for three plus years. Equal justice under the law, equal application of our laws. Absolutely it is, and you know, and it just it fries me because I know cops. I can't tell you after the show last night, how many cops got in touch with me and said, thanks for saying it because it needed to be said, and that this guy is giving us a bad name. Comey Struck, McCabe, page, the whole bunch of them. They gave the FBI a really bad name. You know. I tell the story that when Joe Degeneva, you know, one night on the show, use the term I flinched dirty cops. Now we know a lot had gone on by that point, but I still flinched because, you know, you want to believe that the officers, all of them, can be trusted, that we give them, we empower them to protect and serve. You know, they are the line of defense for any community in law and order. It's a hard job they've got. And then people see videos like this, and there are some people will say, well, these are all cops. It's not all cops. Thank god. We wouldn't survive as a society if this was all cops. And the damage that is done is real, which is why in the FBI case, I'm like, Director Ray, where are you in this particular case? They look these things usually take a long time, very quickly, they looked at it. There's no justification. He's fired, and the guys that will with him fired, And I have to ask what were they thinking? You know, where were they The one guy was standing right there. I'm like, why didn't you say, oh, back off, let's put him in the car. I can't understand it. It is and knowing the neck areas as well as I know it, and train in self defense and situational self defense in particular, and a variety eclectic blend of arts. You just you only go for a neck if you want to really hurt somebody. You've got to be so careful around a neck. Now, for example, a headlock is different than a chokehold. You can start getting technical, et cetera. This is full on body weight force right on the man's neck with his head pinned to the pavement. And it is like, in all honesty, how mister Floyd survived that long is a miracle. Why nobody stop this? I cannot understand it. It's a human life, a human being, a fellow American. I don't get it. He's not There's there's no reason for this to have happened, none, whatsoever. None. Somebody should have interviewing somebody something, somebody should have done something. This should not have happened, never, never should have happened. It shouldn't have got that far. There's no it's just it's just really really really blows me away. You know, just standing time, Let's let's come together, you know, I know everybody, you know, I mean, this country is very divided politically. Let's we cannot, but we can still remember one thing. We're all Americans. We're all in this together. And I think Dan Bongino's point too about you know, hey, what if it's your kid that you're looking at in that video? Okay, taste closed, you know, checkmate, it's over. Nobody wants that to happen now, human This is a fellow human being. Anyway, Thank you, Tan, you appreciate it. Memphis, Tennessee. Rod is next Rod. How are you glad you called? No? Well, Man, thanks for having first time. Thank you. Sure you call if you don't mind. Man, I'd like to say in the twenty sixteen election, Man, I was actually talked out of voting for Dum's Trump. And I'm an African American. I'm twenty nine years old from Missus and I was also someone you know, I want you to show me what you're gonna do. So C and N started cutting off his interviews, cutting off his speeches, and I started watching Fox News for the first time my life, and I have come to the conclusion you have the only channel that tells the truth on TV and lo and behold, I'm listening to your radio stations. I'm listening to Mark Levin and I've never been more educated in my life about politics from Democrat Party. And I just want to say thanks well. Rod. First of all, thank you because you give all of us, you know, Rush, me, Mark, everybody, and you give us this honor, this microphone. You know, I I have, I have the greatest team in radio on TV. Everybody works so hard, and I'll tell you what our goal is. You know, we we dig deep and we try to get to the truth. We you know, it's amazing to me that there's wide open space in media today and all it is is for truth telling. And it's amazing that I watch it's like a group think psychosis that has taken over everybody in the media, print media. You know, these fake news cable channels that are nothing but liberal talk shows and opinion shows all day long, every second minute, hour of the day, hating Donald Trump. They miss the biggest abuse of power corruption scandal in history. Uh, they go with hoaxes and conspiracy theories, and they don't apologize after they got it wrong. Can you imagine the well they think? And I'm a Democrat, so I feel like they're making my people stupid, Like what is going on here? Like, no, you don't sound like a Democrat anymore. What did you think of Biden's recent comments? And by the way, he's had even more comments, But what do you think of his recent comments when he was on Charlotte Main Show. I really, you know, I want to offended. I'm gonna one of these cupcakes to get offended. I'm a college football coach. You know, I'm pretty silf guy. But also, where where do the coach? If you if you don't mind telling us, I coached a small college and UM in West Virginia. You know, it's kind of hard to speak out these days, especially if you're black, So like, I don't say anything on social media get the left of persecute you. And I've never seen this in my life, so I don't. I don't really speak out about things like the politics online or over there. You know one thing I also gonna say to you. You know, a good coach, good teacher, a good minister, anybody is worth their weight in gold. You know, you have no idea the impact you can have on young men in this case, I assume playing football and helping them grow into adulthood. There are so many traps you know, in society that they can fall into and ruin their lives, Drugs being the obvious one, alcoholism being another one. Uh. You know, these young kids having you know, kids out of wedlock and you know literally literally puts puts makes everything hard because you know, maybe they didn't get the they need to be guided, they need to be taught, They need examples, They need people like you that can motivate them to be their better selves. I had I had a coach, this n as Nick Owens. He's from my school. He was he's an older he's an older white guy. And you know, I was always a curious guy, kind of old school and I always like to sit around old gentleman learning lives him and he was acute of the guy that kind of took me under his wing. But I always believe to myself and shunning every every goal I've set for myselvezens I was sixteen, I've achieved so far, played college football to Vision one, coaching college football. I don't have any kids, haven't had any criminal history and anything, and just churching the drink, so you know, and I had some one to help me stay out of the but I always believe to myself. Yeah, look, everybody can use a guiding hand or hand up. UM good solid example, living a good life, being a good examples as best you can be, knowing that we're all flawed creatures. But listen, it was really nice to meet you, Rod. I'm glad you called. God bless you. I hope your team has a great season. I hope you get to play this season. I think you will be able to. I think Robert Kraft was clear the NFL is on track to open up on time this uh, this fall, which we're all looking forward to. And uh, I wish you all the best. Okay, sir, all right, man, appreciate you. All right, appreciate you, sir. All right. That's gonna wrap things up for today. We'll be monitoring tonight the events whatever unfolds in Minneapolis. I hope it's peaceful protesting, but we'll be we'll be on the ground. We'll be monitoring Dan Mongino, Eraldo, Bernie Carrick. Also, we have an investigator report. Lawrence Jones talks to family members that lost loved ones in New York nursing homes and they're they're more than teed off. Mark Cuban is back tonight, also Senator Cotton and much more. Ninety Eastern Hannity on Fox the latest news all across the board. We'll see you tonight and back here tomorrow. Thanks for being Willis