Reaction From Donald Trump Jr. Interview - 7.12

Published Jul 13, 2017, 1:00 AM

Sean sat down last night on 'Hannity' with Donald Trump Jr. and the reaction today has been astounding. Just how far is the media going to destroy the Trump administration? Hear excerpts from the interview along with reaction from Jay Sekulow and others. The Sean Hannity Show is live weekdays from 3 pm to 6 pm ET on iHeartRadio and Hannity.com.

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So glad you are with us, and uh right down one Sean at Sean Hannity on Twitter, the let not your Heart be troubled Twitter Army Brigade if you want to be a part of the program. Um, It's very interesting some of the developments that we have now going on. There is the single greatest examples of media bias and disinformation and propaganda and and distortion and outright lying by the Democratic Party and by your anti Trump, destroyed Trump media then we've ever seen before. And a lot of this goes into the Uranian one deal, where there is real Russia collusion. A lot of it goes into this whole issue of the Ukraine and they've had far more, we have far more evidence of collusion. Frankly, it's incontrovertible where the Ukrainians working with the Hillary Clinton campaign and the d n C, with real meetings taken place, real information passed on, real real collusion that occurred, and and and it had an impact on the race. Something after eleven months of black helicopter conspiracy theories you don't have with the media narrative about Russia Trump Trump, Russia collusion, Russia Trump and collusion. Then you got the whole Christopher Steel issue, and that's the Russian dossier, the hookers you're in. By the way, who even the guy paid for some of these interviews? Do you know that that dossier was bought and paid for? And I'll explain that in a second, or the fact if it's so bad for governments to be imp to trying to influence elections. Now, by the way, the United States has done it in past years. They've done in Latin American elections and other elections. Chilla. You can go through the whole list of countries that we've tried to have a positive impact, usually trying to push more democratic rule for and freedom and liberty for people. And probably the intentions were were the greatest, but it creates a lot of resentment. Let's be honest, if we're trying to influence other people's elections. We don't like it when people are influencing arts. But the Ukraine, did Obama set up this whole victory fifteen campaign to defeat our ally, our friend, one of our closest allies Israel and Prime Minister b G b B Benjamin Netanyahoo, all of Anna Hampon, you know. And you know, I don't blame the president today because the presidents now picked up on it. And now the news media, you know, they're always so behind us. It's very entertaining to watch at times. But but now that we have pointed out the truth about the Ukrainian issue and and real collusion with that, real evidence and real proof and real meetings and real information passed on and real dissemination of false information by a foreign government. Well, now all of a sudden it's coming to life. And now all of a sudden, the Democrats are gonna have as many questions as everybody else, just like I pointed out to you, the boomerang effect, as I call it, And all the pushing, all the pushing, all the pushing is now resulted in what. Okay, Now, I would argue, James Comey is in a heap of legal problems. James Comey wanted his special counsel appointed, so he leaks information. Turns out the information, some of it was classified. That's a violation of the Espionage Act and a violation of the Records Act. Because if it's classified information, violation eighteen US Code seven ninety three, If it's violation the Records Act, eighteen US Code, what six forty one or three or whatever the number is. So Donald Trump tweets out today, The President tweets out today, why aren't the same standards placed on Democrats? Look what Hillary Clinton may have gotten away with disgraceful. Now what is he referring to? Specifically, he's referring to what we've been telling you about? What have we been telling you about? All the polit go January eleven, this year, headline Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire. It's sad that when you think of the thousands and thousands and thousands of hours of cable news time and network news time that was given to a story that still has no evidence of collusion none. Well, what about the Donald Trump junior email Kennedy. Okay, Donald Trump Junior was told that they might have information, and he took the meeting, and he said, in retrospect as being pre Russia, I wouldn't have taken the meeting, whether you believe him or not. Okay, the woman, the lawyer from Russia that he met that was only allowed into the country, and and Charles Grassley wants an answer to this, Well, that woman corroborates everything Donald Trump says. The only thing he disagrees with was the extent to which he claims he was pushing her for the information. That that's a posally was was predicated on on the meetings. She only wanted to talk about adoption. And by the way, should we talk about why Obama let her in or the the many pictures apparently that are existing out there her Democrats. But we now know the Ukrainians. Okay, well, Hannity, there are friends, you know. Let me let me play as we get this started. As before I tell you the story. Let's start with Brian Williams and Andrea Mitchell. Now, this is spectacularly stunning, considering it's their network over at NBC News or did anyone see Joe Scarburrow. It is so cringe inducing. Oh, it's so the monkey song that he played on Stephen Colbert and with his probably Miek is telling him to puff up his hair. It's so embarrassing. I'm like almost embarrassed for him. It's so bad. He needs a haircut desk at least. And he's like, what a fifty five year old wanna be rock star? It's it's humiliating, Joe, and your music sucks. It's so bad the monkeys I called the monkey song? Did you see the Monkey song last night? So funny. He's Andrea Mitchell, O'Brien Wills. They work at the Conspiracy Network, thousands of hours of Trump Russia collusion. They're unaware of how the Ukrainians help the d n C and Hillary Clinton. Listen to this, Andrew mitchell I said earlier, no public events for three days on the president's calendar. He leaves tonight for Paris for Bastill Day celebrations. But we've heard from the President again three minutes ago on Twitter. I'm hoping you can help me decipher this. Why aren't the same standards placed on the Democrats? Period? Look what Hillary Clinton may have gotten away with disgraceful. You want to take a whack at that. Um trying to figure it out myself. Earlier he called it a witch hunt, so he's still on the fake news or what the Democrats are doing that combo. Perhaps this is a reference to email, since his son voluntarily tweeted out a whole email chain. Nobody was forcing him to do that other than the questions that were raised by the New York Times, and they said that they were about to reveal them themselves. So uh, he voluntarily released his email. So perhaps it's an email reference. But it's hard to figure out what this is about. Let the record show Andrew Mitchell is always game for a challenge, though sometimes the material leaves us with more questions than answers. These people are so ignorant it's spectacular to me how dumb they are, and especially I guess the only news they watch is their own network. They're believing their own bs, their own propaganda, their own conspiracy theories. What the President Brian and Andrew was referring to and Jake Tapper, I don't have time to play it now, he said, Well, the Ukrainians helping Hillary is unimportant because she law. That is the dumbest argument I've ever heard. If an outside anty, what's the whole collusion story about? Did an outside government try and influence the American election? Did they clue? Did they organize? Okay, let's go to the Politico. The whole seven team page story will put up on Hannity dot com. Did you put it up yet? No? Okay? And the headline is Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire. Kiev officials are scrambling after the election. They bet on the wrong horse to make amends with the president elect after quietly working to boost Clinton. Wasn't so quiet? It starts out Donald Trump wasn't the only presidential candidate whose campaign was boosted eye officials from a former Soviet block country. Well, there's no evidence of any collusion, and with this Russian lay there's still no evidence of any collusion, any information passed back and forth. Then it goes on. Ukrainian government officials tried to help Hillary Clinton undermine Trump by publicly they did things. Oh, they were colluding. Hang on, We'll get to that. By publicly undermining Trump and questioning his fitness for office. They also, meaning the Ukrainians, disseminated documents implicating a top aid in corruption and suggested they were investigating the matter. After the election, they backed away and quote from the Politico, they helped Clinton's allies research damaging information on Trump and his adviser. Wait a minute, are Ukrainian American operative? Oh? Who's consulting during the election for the Democratic National Committee? There actually was a meeting and then she met with top officials at the Ukrainian embassy in Washington. Where is this treason? If if we're gonna talk to tims, this is, how is this different? Except they got information, they got assistance. It's the evidence is right here. There was collusion. Anyway, it goes on. But they met in the f and in the embassy, the d n C woman and the Ukrainians to expose ties between Trump and Maniport and Russia. The Ukrainian efforts had an impact on the race. Okay, helping manaforts resignation. That's the campaign manager. They advanced the narrative that Trump's campaign was deeply connected to Russia, but they were far less concerted or centrally directed. Blah blah blah blah blah. Now here's the thing. The political investigation found Ukrainian government involvement. But here's the strain, diplomatic protocol dictating governments for frayne from engaging in one another's elections. Then it goes on to say the Ukrainian antipathy or hatred for Trump's team and their alignment with Clinton's team. And they go back to explain that it goes back to and then the woman that worked for the d n C, Alexander Chalupa. Oh, she's the Donald Trump junior in this case, except she got information, and she had worked in the Clinton White House, and she was a paid d n C staffer made four and twelve thousand dollars. Anyway, she occasionally now listen to this. She shared her findings from the d n C and with the with the Ukrainian government, with officials from the d n C and the Clinton campaign. Ding Ding ding ding ding. Hello, tick tick tick TikTok. You know what that means. Collusion. It actually happened. It occurred in the same election, in the same campaign. And it's not the only example. And I'll give you the others when we get back one. Shawn Hey with optimism once again on the rise in America. The working people of this country are more important than ever. Well, now they have a podcast that celebrates them and tells their stories. On the Job from Hired to Retired. Also new podcasts from our friends that Express Employment Professionals that digs into the lives of men and women at work and explores their journeys as they fight to make the American dream of reality. On the Job takes the listener through the ups and downs of making a living in America. I'll check out the new podcast On the Job from Hired to Retired on I Heart Radio, iTunes or wherever you download your favorite podcasts, or just go to Express pros dot com slash podcast for more information. Why why are you all in there making me? What is the name of the stupid song of Scarborough monkey house? Are you going from the Colbert Show last night? I mean sucking up by the way he left the Republican Party. Okay, I have to play if a tree, if a tree falls in the forest, does anybody care? Does anybody hear it? Alright, go play a little of it? All right? It's so stupid. What is he sixty years old? And what's what the dopey hair? And that's no Hawaii insurance? What does he think? He's Johnny Rotten the monkey House for me and Nicol God, let's talk about mc happens when you get engaged and you work at monkeys. Isn't there a certain cringe? It's too funny. He takes away all the cringe and some funny monkey house. Oh baby, oh baby, time to swing and shout. Wow, he sounds like the monk yet oh uh, all right, I can't take it. To put it. You gotta just get into the bridge, just to forget the bridge whatever you call. You know, the guy claims. I saw in an article he claimed he wrote like six hundred or eight hundred or however, been sane number of songs. How did just make it into the second release from his his stupid album? I mean the first one was the anti Trump's creed song that he wrote. And this is the best we've got. Did you see the hair what I mean, did Mika tell him that, like that looks good or something? I have the same haircut. I don't know. I'm looking at him and his haircut. Yeah. Will you stop? Now? Will you stop? I am not responsible for every crazy thing you say on the show. You not, I really am not. I'm not really because I don't even have control of your microphone, which I need to get control up. I don't even know what to say. I'm watching, you know when somebody else monkey house? Okay, if you're fifty, what is he? Five six? All right? Stop put it on. I can't take it. Put it off. You're never too old to dream. I mean, what is it? This like a fantasy you know? Did he go to like rock and roll fantasy camp and and think that you know, he he can hire a bunch of backup singers to make them sound not it was, and by the way, so Coolberran would do him. It was pretty funny. He goes, by the way, this is where Elvis Presley and the Beatles play. Joe, you're not Elvis and you're not the Beatles. Man. We'll continue. Let's start with the emails. Let's start with the first email. First of all, let's talk about who is Rob gold Stuff. Rob Golson him as a talent manager for M and our Glove, who's a Russian singer, performed that Miss Universe and later performed at uh uh the w g C Championship golf course, the tournament that we held at d Row. All right, so I need no I met him through that, through the golf course. I wasn't even at the Miss Universe pageant, but I met him through out there, so I had a casual relationship with him. Okay, So he sends you this email, we'll put it back up on the screen and give you a chance to look at. This is the one that says the Crown Prosecutor of Russia met with his father, meeting Emmon's father and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with documents information that could incriminate Hillary Clinton, etcetera. Obviously highly sensitive information but as part of Russia and its government supportive Mr Trump. Uh. And then they asked the best way to handle this This email comes in. What are you thinking? Honestly, my takeaway when all of this was going on is that someone has information on our opponent. You know, things are going a million miles an hour. You know what it's like to be on a campaign. We just won Indiana, know, but we're talking about a contested convention. Things are going a million miles an hour again, and hey, wait a minute, I've heard about all these things, but maybe this is something I should hear him out. Okay, when you read the parts about the Russian government or Russia supporting your father, did that will put off any sirens in your head? Honestly, I don't know. I mean I think this was again just basic information that was going to be possibly there. I didn't know these guys well enough to understand that if this talent manager from this universe, you know, had this kind of thing. So I wanted to hear him out and play it out and see what happens. But you know, people are trying to reach out to you all the time with us all right twenty four till the top of the hour. That was part of my exclusive interview last night with Donald Trump Jr. You know, I was telling Linda, I actually said it on the air last night. I don't I'm a talk show host. I I get to maybe five percent of what I bring into this program every day. I mean I should just take a picture of of the studio. I've got one to three, I got five computers in front of me. We have two television sets in front of me. And no, I'm of course I'm not watching MBC. No, Fox and Fox Business and Fox Business and Fox That's what I watched. And yeah, occasionally we a lot to c span of something's going on. But I mean I try and stay away from well who put on CNN? Somebody put on CNN in my studio at long story short, it's there's a lot of room here and in my studio when I do the show to lay my papers out, and I have piles based on topics and that's how I do it, with a lot of research at them and a lot of notes on the side. You know, things that that crossed my mind as I'm preparing the show every day. And I'd never run out of things to say. Ever, I was out of questions for Donald Trump Jr. Lass not I've just done, had nothing else to ask him. And it's I know that the left is never gonna believe him. And this was okay, you read what it said. His story corroborated by the lawyer who was brought into the country by Obama after she was denied access to the country. And I've got a picture, where was it, I guess Gateway pundit of her with a prominent Obama democrat and one has to ask, Okay, well, why is she here? Well, it's obvious. I think she was advancing the whole issue of the the the act wi allow adoptions, the mcginsky ak to allow adoptions of Russian children. Okay, that's important to them. You know, there's a pull out today, fake news, democratic media. It was a great moment with Alison cameraon. I like Allison Camerarada. She you know, used to work at the Fox News channel, and he does the morning show over now at CNN, and but I watch I watch Fox in Front. That's the show I watch in the morning. And I did today watch the networks because they spend twenty minutes on my interview, which is hilarious. I love the fact that they didn't cover is the ten minute monologue I did at the beginning of the program beating the crap out of them over Ukraine, over Victory fifteen, over the dossier and Christopher Steel and and all of these issues that they ignore, and if they cared about real crimes, they would be talking about, oh okay, Hillary Clinton's crimes, and they would be talking about, you know, a whole bunch of issues. They'd be talking about James come and the Espionage Act and James Comey and and the Records Act and Hillary Clinton and the Iranium one deal and mishandling and destroying classified information and a dred weeks and twenty six days seven times out of the two previous administrations. And they'd be talking about Loretta Lynch and the tarmac and it's a matter, not an investigation, and Sarah Carter's report that she had put the kabash on any possible Hillary indictment. I'm predicting all of this is now going to come back into play now, whether the media likes it or not. I am going to stay on all of these issues, and my goal is to make sure everybody understands what Obama tried to do to Prime Minister net Yahoo and imp act his election and get him defeated. I'm gonna try and let everybody in America know about this. M I six former m I six intelligence officer in Great Britain and what he did, and I'll get to that in a second. And I want and the dossier about Hooker's urinating in a bed in a rich carthon in Moscow and now he was paying people for this. I want everybody to know the intimate details of the Ukrainian story. And I'm gonna point out that everything that the Democrats are actually saying about Trump and Russia and collusion with no evidence after all of these months, is totally applicable to what Democrats have done. And I think that's something we're uniquely qualified to do, and we're gonna start tonight on Hannity on the Fox News Channel. But putting this aside, fake news media, they're spend spending virtually every single broadcast hour lying in propagandizing you over this Trump Russia non scandal. And a new poll by The Huffing the Post News shows that Russia Gate is barely on the radar screen of of the people in this country. They don't give a rip. They've heard it at nauseum. And except for the few million people that like Rachel Maddow and her bizarre black helicopter theories and tinfoil had conspiracy theories, nobody else cares. Only nine percent of Americans ranked Trump's relationship with Russia as one of the issues most important to them. Say healthcare is among their top issues. Name the economy is one of their top issues, and behind healthcare in the economy rate immigration is their top concern. Well, those are the three things I keep saying they need to get done in Congress before the end of this year. They're so lazy and disgustingly ineffective. So that's what the people seem to care about. You have a leaked email? Aaron Klein wrote this story leaked email from Hillary team presidential campaign, previously published by Wiki Leaks, may take on a new significance because it relates to the key issues brought up in the media reports about Donald Trump Jr. And meeting with the Russian lawyer. But anyway and correspondent which is not yet received media attention and remains. You can look on the Wiki League's archives. We find out that Jesse le Rich, who's a Clinton campaign foreign policy spokesman member of the campaign's rapid Response communication team, writes that the campaign killed a Bloomberg story attempting a link Clinton's opposition to the anti Russian legislation known as the mcnick Mcnitsky Act. That's the adoption one to a speech that Bill Clinton delivered in Moscow for five grand. It isn't that nice. Isn't that nice? Anybody in the media gonna pick up on that, by the way, Um, So let me just go back to what really is the difference here and back. So we have this d n C operative who worked in the Clinton White House, paid by the d n C, who now did collude with the Ukrainians. That the Ukrainians were up to their eyeballs in digging up and disseminating false information on Donald Trump in the campaign and literally doing research for the d n C and the Clinton campaign, and all of this is now chronicled. That they publicly questioned Trump's fitness for office. They disseminated documents implicating some of of Trump's team, suggesting that they were doing the investigation for the Clinton campaign. You have a meeting that took place at the Ukrainian embassy in Washington. She was consulting for the d n C at the time, and the Ukrainian government in the involvement in this race. Is is almost overwhelming and incontrovertible and how the d n C operative that's being paid by the d n C, quote, would share her findings with officials from the d n C and the Clinton campaign. Los Angela chollop a lady. Okay, so that actually took place. I can't believe it. How many of you know? I tweeted this out yesterday, that wiki leaks and leaked information. I don't like wiki leaks. Okay, excuse me. They've never been proven wrong in eleven years. That shows Hillary Clinton's campaign discussed the private, off the record meeting with the Chinese ambassador. Oh was that the clue too? Should we be investigating put her putting under oaths? Should we accuse you know, all of these same people of the very things they're they're saying about Donald Trump Jr. Do you realize all of the double standard? It's nauseating on so many different levels. On top of it, any attorney, including let's say, Jonathan Turley and and Alan Dershowitz, Greg Jarrett, my colleague at Fox who's gonna join us late, he did a great job on this all telling the same story. Oh excuse me. Uh yeah, there's no collusion and it's not a crime none whatsoever. You know, it is a huge double standard, and it's not the only double standard, and there's so many other cases of of of the Democrats acting this way, but it doesn't seem to matter to anybody in the news media because they've got an agenda and they're passing their agenda no matter what. The Russian lawyer who torpedoed Trump Junior met with Obama officials. Does anybody care about that she seated in the front row directly behind the former ambassador mcpaul at the House Foreign Affairs Committee, that that picture is in existence, Dershowitz, nothing illegal and Trump Junior meeting with a Russian lawyer. On the Russian lawyer's Facebook page, he puts in all the things that she's been interested in, and why did she get the exemption? It's another big issue. And you know, what did Hillary know about Russian interference? It's another question we have yet to get answered in all of this by anybody that has any knowledge of anything, because it's all one big propaganda, misinformation, lying conspiracy. It's a It's has been and continues to be a witch hunt. It's the only way to describe it. What else can you possibly call this? You know, there's is there anything in any way that we're looking at here that you know, I'll give you an example, I mean Tim Kane suggesting, well that's treason. Well, the chalupa commit treason meeting with the Ukrainians and then disseminating that information to the d n C. It's preposterous that Donald Trump Jr. Did US isn't at war with Russian and then not at war with the Ukraine. Even if the president's son received information from Russia, it's not treason as the statutory law defines it, and as the Constitution defines it. I's guilty of collusion. There's no such crime relating to political campaigns. The only thing that they can cite, and I noticed they tried this little trick on TV this morning, is that they try to cite a federal election campaign Act as a means of well that you know, no campaign can solicit and or receive foreign donations. It's prohibited. Is if that's a criminal statute, which it is not. His information a thing of value. One could attempt to make the argument, but you know it hasn't been interpreted that way. It's never been interpreted that way, and election laws are rarely if ever subject of criminal prosecution and the vast majority of the cases or civil civil violations resulting and define it at best, which is all they could probably hope for here. You know, it's um, these are amazing times we're living in. I can tell you that they really are amazing times. And I don't know if this is going to change anytime soon. I just think this goes on forever and ever and ever and ever and ever. I just don't see when the Democrats stopping any of this. You know, there was a great piece out by my good friend Rowan Scarborough and Rohan Scarborough rites for the Washington Times, and I just thought he was dead on accurate as he he usually is. And you know, he's talking about Washington Times Peace where he goes on to explain the difference how Democrats intentionally used disinformation from Russia to attack the Trump campaign. In this case, he's talking about the dossier that was put out there, and the disinformation came in the form of all of that from the dossier. It's a phony dossier and it was paid for in part by this Christopher old guy who was the former intelligence agent in Great Britain. And how Steele makes clear that has unproven charges came almost exclusively from sources linked to the Kremlin and Vladimir Putin, and he identified his sources as senior Russian Foreign ministry figures and a top level Russian intelligence officer, and the same Democrats who have condemned Russia's election interference via you know, applying fake news and hacking email servers. In other words, his public evidence of collusion between the Democrats and Russian disinformation, because if anyone conluded with the Russian it was the Democrats. Why is that because well, of course this goes back to the Fusion GPS story, and the entire Tassier sho never have been made public, and Fusion GPS, a Democratic front group, was responsible for all of it. Nine four one, Shaun is a number. You want to be a part of the program, All right when we come back, Sarah Carter, Greg Jarrett j Secular all coming up in an next hour, the news round Up, Information Overload, Well more of my exclusive inter of you with Don Trump Jr. And your calls. Eight nine for one, Sean, Glad you're with us. Let's go into the meeting, all right, So you need a Trump Tower, Yes, Okay, The meeting was described earlier today on the Today Show. Did she described accurately? But I think fairly accurately. I mean I was a little taken back by her saying, you know, talking about me pressing for the information. But as you can see from the emails, the pretext of the meeting was, hey, we have information. And there was you know, some small high I don't even remember what it was. It just was sort of nonsensical, uh in and garbled, and then quickly went onto, uh, you know, a story about Russian adoption and how we could possibly help. And really that's what we shut it down, which is, wait a second, what does this have to do with you the well, I've never even heard of it before, you know, that day, Uh, you know, I think it became pretty apparent to you know, Jared and Paul, who I think Jared left after a few minutes. Paul got yeah, yeah, you were remember that we were all there. I was basically sitting there listening as a courtesy to my acquaintance who had set up the meeting, and uh, you know, in his own words, you can hear what he said. Uh. And you played it earlier about it, I mean, you apologized to me walking out of the meeting basically for wasting my time. Well, and he did say at the end of your statement today you did point out as goals Stone said today, the entire meeting was the most in nane nonsense I've ever heard, and actually, you know, agitated by it. And he called it, he called it, apologized to you know that guy. It wasn't really follow up because there's nothing there to follow up. As we were walking out, he said, listen, I'm sorry for that, but I think what happened he's sort of goose stuff. He built up. There was some puffery to the email, perhaps to get the meeting, to make it happen, and you know, in the end there was probably some bait and switch about what it was really supposedly about, and so, uh, you know, there is nothing there, all right. That was more of my exclusive interview with Donald Trump Jr. And what has become a media hysterical. Yeah, it's unbelievable the double standard that exists, especially as it relates to what we now know about the Ukrainian it's to sabotage Donald Trump in the last election, and how they work with the d n C and with Hillary Clinton's campaign at a pretty high level, trying to not only get damaging information and to investigative work for them, but also a meeting that took place in a Ukrainian American operative who works for and consulted with the d n C actually meeting top officials at the Ukrainian embassy, all in an effort to expose ties between Trump and his campaign and Russia. And you know, we now have evidence of Ukrainian government involvement trying to impact the election, and there's been little to no coverage but for the Politico and a few other places about what actually went on here and how deep this was and how the d n C paid this woman, Alexander Cholupa, who worked in the Clinton White House and was working for the d n C as a time at the time men on making foreigner and twelve thousand dollars over a period of years. But she occasionally was sharing all of her find is with the Ukrainian government with d n C officials and Clinton campaign officials and said that you know, when it came to the Trump campaign, I felt there was a Russian connection, and she was working with them almost on a daily basis, and she's meeting with the Ukraine's ambassador to the US, among other things. And as she claims and tried to downplay all of these relationships and meetings, they in fact took place. You hear very little to nothing about it. Anyway. Our to Sean Hannity Show, eight nine one. Seawan is a number. Sarah Carter is a senior editor at Circle dot com. Greg Jarrett is a Fox News legal analysts attorney who has been all over all of these issues. Welcome both of you back to the program. All right, let me start with the I guess the first legal question. I'll throw it to you Greg Jarrett. Um, you watched I hope you watched Don Junior last night. And is there anything at all, in any way, shape, matter of form, legally that he has to worry about? Absolutely nothing. He acquitted himself nicely. You asked all the right questions, he responded appropriately. As the treason, that's preposterous. We're not at war with Russia, so that's just a silly accusation by Senator Tim Cain and some others. As for collusion, there is no such a crime of collusion and a political campaign. It's only antitrust law. There is uh sort of a tangential law that says you can't conspire with somebody else to obstruct a government function, i e. An election. But when you read the statute that requires deceit and dishonesty, simply receiving information doesn't constitute those two things, so that doesn't apply. And finally, the Federal Election Campaign Act. You know, foreigners are not allowed to donate to campaigns, but providing information specifically under the law is not a donation. It's called a personal service. And in fact, foreign nationals are allowed to volunteer their personal services to a campaigns. They do it all the time. It's interesting you bring all this up because I was watching some of the morning shows this morning and they all opened with my interview with Donald Trump Jr. And it was hard to watch j Seculo on CBS, NBC and ABC at the same time. I tried, but it wasn't possible. And and I was as I was watching a lot of this, they were trying to cite or suggest the way they cited the FBC Campaign Act Graig, you know, soliciting receiving foreign donations prohibited. They tried to make it sound like it's a criminal act, and it's not a criminal code issue, now, it's not. Look, campaign election laws are rarely the subject of criminal prosecutions only when it involves things like money laundering in embezzlement. So the vast majority of cases you're just as you point out, Sean civil violations resulting in fines. But again both Trump Junior and the Russian lawyer agree no information related to the presidential campaign was ever conveyed, and so that makes that statute totally inapplicable. All right, now, let's go Sarah if we can to this whole issue with the Ukrainians, the d n C, the Killary Clinton campaign, and I think one of the main things that we've got to focus on here is that all of the work, research and meetings that went on by this d n C operative was being paid by the d n C and her sharing her findings with the d n C and the Clinton campaign. It sounds far more extensive, or far more extensive case of collusion directly related to the Clinton campaign and the d n C to defeat Donald Trump and impact our elections than any information we have to date about the conspiracy theories we've now heard for eleven months. It was Sean, Yeah, you have a point there. I mean, this is what we're looking at. We have seen what Don Jr. Has brought for it. He put all of his emails out there from this, and I think that in itself is a point. If you think about this, there was no information gained on his part to do anything. I mean, so then that kind of excludes the Russian government because why would the Russian government try to create this big scenario to give Don JR. Information. I think it was more of a bait and switch. I mean she kind of went, you know, he was kind of set up to go here what information he was going to get on Hillary? But it was it was a thing that she was lobbying for. She came in. I think that's a big question. How did she get into the country. What was this you know, special parole she received, and who gave it to her? I think that's a question that's going to answer a lot of things. Uh So we thought answers, it's gonna answer a lot of our questions. And when you look at Ukraine and in and of itself, I mean the d n C was looking for information on President Trump going to the Ukrainians, going to Ukrainian government officials. We saw what Chalupa did. She was looking for this information, she was going to bring it back, you know, to the d n C. So if you if you look at both sides, there's far more evidence that d n C was working and trying to get information from foreign government to you know, as as their oppo research and to go after Trump. I think if you look at both ends, if you're looking at both sides of this, there's no real collusion anywhere. People were just looking for information to go against their opponent. And I haven't spoken to anyone yet who said that, including Dr Richard Paynter, who is not a fan of President Trump, but you know he's been out there saying it that this does not appear in any way, shape or form to be a collusion. What are your thoughts on the Ukrainian issue, Greg Jarrett, Well, it's hypocrisy at its worst among the media. They pay no attention to the fact that Alexander Chelupa used the Ukrainian embassy reportedly to gather dirt on the Trump campaign. Where's the outrage, where's the equivalency? Doesn't exist? And that the underscores the media bias against President Trump. The unabashed scorn and visceral hatred they have for the president and the you know, empathy for Hillary Rodham Clinton UM. And they have largely ignored the story that was first broken more than two years ago the New York Times about how cash flowed to the Clinton Foundation after Hillary Clinton UM led the way for the uranium, you know, the uranium one Russian deal, a quid pro quo, if ever there was one, and that to me smacks of a crime. And yet you know, nobody seems to pay any attention to that. I actually feel, Sarah, along with you and Greg and occasionally John Solomon, I mean, we're not going to put him in this group UM and and Jay Sekulo that were like voices in the wilderness here. It's so evident, so transparent. It's the evidence is so incontrovertible, because Greg is pointing out in the in the uranium one deal, a hundred million dollars back plus million dollars kicked back by the principles involved in that deal, and giving a waiver one of nine. But giving a waiver, you know, to allow Vladimir Putin to have as much as access to our uranium is insanity to me and and well, Sean, it is. I mean, there's a lot of questions that people are still asking about this. I mean that the deal went through, it was passed, it was it was approved, but there's still a number of questions surrounding how the deal was approved, what was going on on the back side the I mean, the increase in speaking fees that went to uh former President Bill Clinton when he went to Russia after that deal was already struck. And there's a lot of questions. People within the FBI have similar questions that we're working on these investigations. They were concerned about the fact that none of this came forward, and and you're right, there was no special prosecutor, no special investigation into anything that had to do with Hillary Clinton, despite the fact that a number of questions hadn't been answered, and a number of people were very very concerned within law enforcement. So I think and just because you know, John and I have brought out these stories, but remember Politico also brought out the story on Alexandra Chalupa. I mean, they were the ones that first reported that that brought that forward. But you're right, very few people and very few media outlets pick that up. And even discussed it. All. Right, let's take a break. We'll come back more with Sarah Carter, senior editor Circa dot Com, Greg Jarrett, my friend and colleague at the Fox News Channel legal analyst. Right as we continue, Sarah Carter, Senior editor Circa dot Com, Greg Jarrett, my friend colleague from the Fox News Channel. And one of the things we're trying to point out here, who was this woman chill Oupa, because you know, a lot of people don't know who she is now. She was paid by the d n C. She was a consultant for them. She worked in the Clinton White House, and she was sharing these findings as she met with people at the Ukrainian Embassy in Washington with the campaign. Clearly the the Ukrainian government was trying to help Hillary, not Donald Trump, and this story is barely covered. Um, you have talked a lout about this woman in in the past, and you seem to know a lot about a Sarah Carter. Well, she's a Ukrainian American. I don't know. I know as much as I know about um. I've never met with Alexandra Chalupa. But she's a Ukrainian American and she was working as a consultant for the Democratic National Committee, and that's what we know. And so she she was really pushing and advocating for the Ukrainians. And remember, at this point in time, Ukraine was really looking for a partner, somebody to kind of push against Russia's breach of what they felt were there, you know, their borders, their livelihood, their solidarity, and they thought that they could find that in Hillary Clinton. So you know, it was a big advantage for them. You know, people talk about Russia having this great advantage in Trump. There was no real big advantage for Russia because, in all honesty, Vladimir Putin really didn't know how Trump was going to play out, especially in foreign policy. It was a guessing game for him. I mean, he knew what he knew about Hillary Clinton, but he didn't know a lot about Trump. One thing is for sure, though, The Ukrainians felt that they could rely on Hillary to supply them with military aid and financial aid in Ukraine. So that is why they were pushing so hard for her. And you know, it wasn't just her, there were other counsels involved, different groups, think tanks. I mean, there was real collusion here. I mean, there's no other way to put there was real evidence of collusion, and yet we barely know about the American people haven't heard about it because of the media bias. What about these other issues, Greg Jarrett, We only have about a minute left, you know, the V fifteen group using State Department dollars, Obama's effort to unseat Prime Minister net and Yahoo or Christopher Stile, the former intelligence officer from Great Britain, and the phony dossier that was discredited and who was paying him and why did James Comey want to pay the guy and put him on the payroll and the Iranium one deal, all these issues of outside influence barely ever talked about in the mainstream media. How are they similar to what is being alleged with no evidence in the Trump Russia collusion insanity. Yeah, they're totally similar. And except for the Iranium one deal, which looks to me like a crime. Um, all of these other things are not specifically prohibited by law, and maybe someday they will be, but they're not. And look, one has to understand that we try to interfere with foreign elections all the time and uh, and of course foreign governments are forever trying to influence our elections. The key here is that on election day, no ballots were changed, um, no machines were hacked and uh, and the voting wasn't unduly influenced on election day. You know, his information passed between individuals and Cup for Cup of course all the time the time. All Right, I gotta wake up and grow up. We're gonna have both of you on Hannity tonight ten eastern on the Fox News Channel New King Rich as well, and we're gonna talk about and lay out all of the duplicity and the double standard in the media and in certainly in Washington and elsewhere. Thank you both, Sarah Carter and Greg Jarrett. Eight one sewn you want to be a part of the program when we come back. We have the Chief Council for the American Center for Law Injustice and the Council to the President, Jay Seculo. He will respond to the Donald Trump Junior interview last night. We'll talk to him about this double standard with Ukraine and V fifteen and all these other issues, and we'll get to your calls and our news round up information overload hour straight ahead. Right as we continue, let's play more from last night and don Jr. And answering questions about you know, whether or not he can't help if somebody sends him an email, and I'd never put a country in jeopardy and no follow ups with the Russian lawyer. Let's play that tape. Let's start with the emails. Let's start with the first email. First of all, let's talk about who is Rob Goldstone. Rob Goldstone is a talent manager for IM and our glove, who's a Russian singer. Performed at Miss Universe and later performed at a the w g C Championship golf course, the tournament that we held at d Row. All right, so they need no I met him through that, through the golf course. I wasn't even at the Miss Universe pageant, but I met him through out there, so I had a casual relationship with him. Okay, so he sends you this email, We'll put it back up on the screen and give you a chance to look at this are the one that says the Crown Prosecutor of Russia met with his father, meeting Emmon's father and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with documents information that could incriminate Hillary Clinton. Etcetera. Obviously highly sensitive information, but as part of Russia and its government supportive Mr Trump. Uh. And then they asked the best way to handle this this email comes in? What are you thinking? Honestly, my takeaway when all of this was going on is that someone has information on our opponent. Things are going a million miles an hour. You know what it's like to be on a campaign. We just won Indiana, but we're talking about a contested convention. Things are going a million miles an hour again, and hey, wait a minute, I've heard about all these things, but maybe this is something I should hear him out. Okay, when you read the parts about the Russian government or Russia supporting your father, did that will put off any sirens in your head? Honestly? I don't know. I mean I think this was again just basic information that was going to be possibly there. I didn't know these guys well enough to understand that if this talent manager from this universe, you know, had this kind of thing. So I wanted to hear him out and play it out and see what happens. But you know, people are trying to reach out to you you all the time. With us, let me ask a hypothetical, and I hate hypothetical questions, but I think it's relevant in this case. If the meeting resulted in information that you felt in any way was the illegal or compromising or collusion, to use the media's term, I said it earlier a percent, I would bring it of the proper authority. So there's nothing that I would do to ever endanger in this country. I think the reason we fought so hard, uh, during this campaign, whether it was my father and the work that he put into it, whether it was the rest of our family and the efforts that we put into it, and you know those efforts well, because we do anything for this country. So we're never gonna put that in jeopardy this as far as you know, or all the emails that exist on this case, and you don't you don't think there's any other one. Do not think there's anything else. We've scared it thoroughly just to be sure, but there isn't anything else there, all right. Uh. And there was no follow up. I think this is important. No follow up with any of them was such a nothing, there was no reason to follow up. There was a waste of time, all right. Joining us now the chief Council for the American Center for Law and Justice, Jay Sekulo, and also Council of the President UM. Overall, your reaction to the interview with Don Junior last night or more importantly, and you were on right afterwards the issue of legality, and then we'll get into the whole double standard issue. So well, first of all, I thought, I thought you did a great job and asking the really tough and comprehensive questions and left nothing left unturned in that regard. That's number one. Number two, I thought Donald Trump Juniors responses were excellent. He acknowledged areas where he would do things differently looking back, but he also pointed out that this was in the in the moment of a campaign, in the middle of a presidential campaign. Uh. The question that you know some of the meeting followed up with later and you have handled and asked about you know, why didn't you talk to your father about this, meaning to talk him about what meeting The meeting can produce any results on anything, So you know, when you have they've had, you can't imagine how many of these they had in the course of the campaign. So I think, look, I think he handled himself well I thought his statements were were well received, and unlike Hillary Clinton, who deleted thirty three thousand emails, he put all of his out there. Well, I mean, and it's not that's that It's not a small distinction here. Now, the president one of the things I've been focused on pretty heavily today. The presidents weeted out today why aren't the same standards placed on Democrats? And look what Hillary may have gotten away with. And he's referring to the Ukrainian government and d n C officials collaborating in the Ukrainian government putting out disinformation, doing research and meetings that took place at the Ukrainian embassy and all the information passed on the Hillary claims campaign and the d n C. You know, it's so interesting about that. So I did a lot of interviews this morning on this topic for the a repre counsel for the President and were so interesting. Of one of the interviews, uh, the host said, well, when I brought up the Ukrainian situation, goes, well, that was different because that was the Ukraine and this is Russia, as if a different legal standard would apply. But you know, what has been fascinating to watch over the last twenty four hours. It's the near uniformity of lawyers that have said there's no illegality here. I give it. Jonathan Turley, I know, our colleague Greg Jared wrote about it. Alan Dershowitz wrote about it's nothing illegal in any of this. Uh yeah, I mean even even Jeff Tuban yesterday said, oh, I don't know, could you look at some kind of BC thing? Well that he did. Then he said, well, that would be a real stretch. He said that as he was on air. Well, it was funny because I was watching you on the morning shows. By the way, it's very hard to watch you on CBS, ABC and NBC at the end are at the same time. What do you mean You're sorry? I have no how did you pull that off? So because you're my friend, you know, huh? I was. It was very early morning for me and Jay. You were on all three major networks at the same time. It's impossible. No. I what happened was I literally taped them at six six fifteen. I was Live with George Stephanopolis. The others were just taping moments before. Unfortunately, um, we had a gracious host at ABC that allowed me to do it all out of there, so I which I appreciate it. Um, well, they kind of do that. I mean, to be perfectly honest, it's a very common practice when they you know, when you're the hottest interview in the country and they really are competitive, and you were the hottest interview in the country. And well, let me ask you this then, Senator Grassley, I think rightly. So he wants to know why the Obama administration and granted this Russian lawyer an immigration waiver number one, you know, and and special permission to be in the United States. Why is that. We'll go figure that out. I mean, you know, how in the world did this happen that this individual has got a waiver after being denied And what you're gonna see in the days ahead. I suspect is that Majinski act, which was what her real purpose and meaning was, but that she was shopping that all over Washington, d C. So, but when we said, we actually have pictures of her with Democrats, don't we I'm hearing I'm I'm hearing from friends of mine in the media that there are or that there are videos of this, and that there's uh, you know, I haven't seeing them, but there's a lot of people talking about that. Here's what it means to me. So you had to meet that ended up being about nothing for all pretense and offense to get the meeting. And at the end of the day, as the lawyer, what I have to look at is the legal issues surrounding it. And there's as nursh Witz has said, as earlier said as Stuben reluctantly a minute, but did and others, well, we've got we got a picture Jim hoffed over a Gateway pundit and I don't know if this is true. I haven't independently verified it, but I'm just reporting when he says, you know, he told she told them BC that she was not with the Kremlin, And as Don Jr. Pointed out, Okay, yeah, she did legal work in Russian back in two thousand and two, as I guess, as a prosecutor or some such thing. But I mean that's hardly recent. And then number three, and she confirmed her meeting and corroborated everything that Donald Trump said and that nothing was passed on. I mean, now in the case of the Ukraine, we have just the opposite. Yeah, So you know, it's interesting case. They pointed that out I mean, all of the networks I was on this morning ran the interview that they did I whoever did it with the lawyer Natalia in Moscow where she said, no, wasn't a Russian UH government employee, I did not give information about the campaign. Don't know where that kind of came from. And she said it. And I pointed that back to the media, saying a wait, wait a minute, you're playing this on your networks, saying this, so you know, why, why did Why is this so complicated to figure out what happened? It's not so. I think what we've had sewn is look, in the heat of a campaign, meetings take place. The double standard on the Ukrainian situation is incomprehensible that anybody that looks at it for five minutes. By the way, that was as you pointed up, that was a peace in Politico in January. But by the way, information was exchanged. A meeting at the Ukrainian embassy did take place. The information was passed onto the Clinton campaign and the d n C. Now I had a I had a host. It was Chris Coleman. I'm almost sure it was Chris that I was on somebody day, But I think it was Chris who said, well, that's different because that's the Ukraine and this is Russia. And there was here, of course, you know, here there was no information that passed hands. There there was so but this idea that somehow they can make the law fitting facts and create law that doesn't exist. But again, you know, I think the uniformity of today is this that there was no illegality. I think Donald Trump Jr. Explained himself well yesterday with an honest you ask probing questions, you asked real questions. He gave answers, and I think, you know, the media still wants to talk about it. That's fine. What the reality is the president is handling a lot of other things that you know. I mean, there's a lot of other things going on in the world. I think he at least to night to go to France. So I mean there's there's a lot of things happening right now, and I am very pleased with where we are legally and how the situation unfolded. Yesterday. I thought, for um, Donald Trump Jr. He did the right thing by getting the emails out. How is it all right? Then answer the how is it possible if if influencing elections is so god awful horrible that I think I might be the only person in the country that points out the victory fifteen campaign where Obama even used taxpayer dollars through the State Department to help unseat Benjamin net Yahoo, let's trying and influence a foreign election or you know, a foreign national Christopher Steele and his ridiculous Assia or the Uranium one deal kick back, a real Russia collusion story. I mean, why is it that in the Ukrainian issue? I am trying to understand for the life of me, except that everybody in the media and everybody, and that is a Democrat in Washington has gone stark, raving, insane and mad and they have only one fixation, and that's to take out the president of any by any means necessary at this point, with as much collateral damage. And if it means Ivanka last week and Donald Trump Jr. This week, I guess Eric is the week after they've already you know, traumatized as a eleven year old son with the severed head. I mean, when does it ever end? Well? I mean, here's the thing. I think the American people have a majority American people who had enough, they want the president of govern they want issues to be addressed. We're on the threshold of the healthcare bill. You got McConnell making the Senate stay in session. I mean, you know you and I know that it's not getting a lot of converage. But having the Senate stay here in of Washington, d C. In August, let me tell you whether they don't want to be in August in Washington, d C. So, I mean, there's a lot of things moving, and I think you're gonna see TAXI for him come right after that. But I mean, at the end of the day, this is you know, today a lot of the focus of the media has been franquently on the FBI designate Chris Ray, who did it so far when i've seen, did a very good job of answering the questions. I think we'll have an easy confirmation and he'll get some some stability back into the FBI, and I think that's gonna be do very well for the country. So a lot of other things are happening as all this goes on. All right, Jay, stay right there, we'll take a quick break. We'll come back more with Jase Secular, Chief Council American Center for Law and Justice Council to the President, and your calls coming up in our news round of information overload. Also as we continue, all right, we continue, j Secular Chief Council, American Center for Law and Justice Council to the President. Rowan Scarborough has a great piece in the Washington Times from from Tuesday, and he says, well, the main dream news media hunts for evidence of Trump and Russia collusion. The public record shows the Democrats have willfully used Moscow disinformation to influence the presidential election against Donald Trump and attack his administration. And then he points out the disinformation coming from this Russian fed dossier written by and by the way, he even paid for some of this phony information by the former British intelligence agent Christopher Steele, and and that's the one that contains these ridiculous charges of of hookers and murinating in beds, and the and the ritz in Moscow, etcetera. But anyway, and then he points out that some Democrats have have widely circulated the discredited information and that he says Mr Steele was paid for by the Democratic funded opposition research firm Fusion GPS with money from a Hillary Clinton backer and Fusion GPS distributed the dossier among Democrats and journalists, and the information fell into the hands of the FBI and then called me wanted to hire this guy, crying out loud. So the same Democrats condemning the Russian election interference, and you know they're advancing all this fake news, phony news themselves. Well, and here's the thing. I mean, I don't think we've even seen the tip of the iceberg on the Fusion GPS matter. I really don't. And then of course you've got the whole relationship between Fusion GPS and the Russian lawyer. Again, another another link in the in the chain here. So there's a lot more to see on this. I think what what we're seeing developed is that this was a you know, look at the end of the day, I go back to the legal issue, and there's not one. So, but there is a fundamental issue here with regard to this entire Special Council matter, and I think it's important to point us out. We know one thing for sure, James Comy leaked the information. That information was a private a series of private conversations he had, but the President of the United States, he put it on his government computer in his government car and as I said, took it out of his government desk, took it home with him. And then when he got terminated and he distributed this government memo to his friend at the Columbia Law School. The government's taking the position now that that impact was not his personal property as he asserted. He called it recollection recorded. They said, no, it's government property. So he got James Colemany sending out government property violation of the criminal We know that, okay, that's number one. Number two. He did it, he said, under oath for the sole purposes obtaining a special counsel. All right, the council was appointed based on what evidence that was illegally leaked. Let's say one last thing on the SEAWAN. There's a privilege that you have when you walk into your entity FBI with the President of STACE is called an executive privilege. And James called me evidently been think two seconds about reaching that, And I think that's important for people to understand. He didn't think he did this his conversations with the president that covered under executive prosident he went and leaked it to the press. Who does he think he's kidding here? Unbelievable times. We're living in Jay Seculo. I don't know how you did three morning shows at seven am and you're still on your feet. That means you got up at five and you did Hannity late last night. So God bless you. You sleep about as much as I do. All Right, I appreciate it. One Shawn toll free telephone number if you want to be a part of the program. Stay right here for our final news round up and information overload in the final hour of the Shawn Hannity Show. Let me go back to what Tim Kane said. Uh, well, if it is what you said, you're in a specially you know, we'd want it released later in the summer. I think that's unusual for a campaign to want research. And I'll get to the Ukrainian issue, which I think has been under reported, especially in light of this coverage. But like I said, I think we had more important things to worry about. I wasn't sure of the credibility of any of this stuff at the time I'm sitting there. Indiana had just probably happened. You know, I'm worried about hearing a contested convention. Contested convention, so you know, we're gonna fight. This is the first time we've ever done any of this. This is you know, I'm still away in the learning curve on all of this, So it wasn't that urgent to me if I'm saying, hey, it can wait till the end of summer. But yeah, obviously want to hear the information. I mean, that's what we do in business. If there's information out there, you want it and then you make what you do with it. If there was something that came from it that was shady, if it was a danger to national security, I would obviously bring it right to someone. But I didn't know what anything was. It was nothing, and therefore there's nothing to be able to actually talk about. The whole contact took How long? How long was the meeting twenty minutes or so? About twenty minutes um and Jared left after five or time, yes, like she said, And Paul Manaport was on his on his time the whole time. Pretty pretty much. It wasn't like I said, It was not pretty apparent that this was not what we were in there talking about. Lot of people are gonna want to know this about your father. Did you tell your father anything about this? It was such a nothing. There was nothing to tell. I mean, I wouldn't have even remembered it until you start scouring through the stuff. It was. It was literally just a waste in twenty minutes, which was a shame. Let me ask a hypothetical, and I hate hypothetical questions, but I think it's relevant in this case. If the meeting resulted in information that you felt in any way, was he illegal or compromising or collusion to use the media's term, I said it earlier percent I would bring it to the proper authority. So there's nothing that I would do to ever endanger this country. I think the reason we fought so hard during this campaign, whether it was my father and the work that he put into it, whether it was the rest of our family and the efforts that we put into it. And you know those efforts well, because we do anything for this country. So we're never gonna put that in jeopardy this as far as you know, or all the emails that exist on this case, and you don't you don't think there's any other one. I think there's anything else. We've scoured it thoroughly just to be sure. Uh, there isn't anything else. There uh, and there was no follow up. I think this is important. No follow up with any of them. There was no reason to follow up. There was a waste of time. All right, news roundup and information overload. Our Shawn Hannity Show told free our telephone numbers eight hundred nine one Seawan. And that was from my interview with Donald Trump Junior last night about a twenty minute meeting when somebody had never met before, didn't know who it was except the email that said, well they may have information on Hillary and it may come from Russia. Okay, Well, let's go back to what we have been talking about. And that is a huge double standard. And I go back to the political report. You know, when you print out the political report, it is seventeen pages. We're gonna it's all up on Hannity dot com. You can take a look at the whole report. The headline, Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfires, key of officials scrambling to make amends with the President elect after working to boost Clinton. What what is the whole issue amount as it relates to Russia Trump collusion. Well, it's all about an outside influence, outside country trying to influence the American people and assist the presidential campaign in election. And as the political pointed out, nobody but for this show. And now people in the White House finally have picked up what we have been discussing. You know, most Americans don't know. And this is far more severe, It had far more consequences. There were real meetings that took place, real information that was passed on, and real efforts by a real government to unseat or prevent Donald Trump from ever becoming president and assist Hillary Clinton. There was real collusion here, and it goes on. Donald Trump was was not the only presidential candidate whos campaign was boosted by officials of a former Soviet bloc country. We don't know that Donald Trump's campaign was boosted in any way, shape, matter of form, because there's never been any evidence of it. And those emails don't prove a thing except that Donald Trump Jr. Was willing to listen if they had information about Hillary Clinton. That's it. That's all they've got. After eleven months of NonStop lying, NonStop conspiracy theories, Well, that goes on. In this case. Ukrainian government officials did try to help Hillary Clinton undermine Trump. They publicly in other words, they did things we know the government did things. They publicly questioned his fitness for office. They also disseminated documents implicating Trump aids and corruption, suggested that they were doing investigations for the Clinton campaign, only to back away after the election. They bet on the wrong horse. And they, by the way, and it goes on in the political they helped Clinton's allies research damaging information on Trump and his advisors. So, in other words, they did these things, things that have been alleged about Donald Trump and his campaign that were never proven. And the emails with Donald Jr. Proved nothing except that he was willing to listen if they had information. And everybody from the lawyer from Russia, who, of course the Obama administration gave a waiver to come into the country. Everyone forget it's that little detail. They got nothing. She says it. Don Jr. Says it, Jared Kushner says it. And Paul Manafort apparently was on his BlackBerry the whole time or his iPhone the whole time. Then it goes on in the politico. Ukrainian American Operative consulting for the d n C met with top officials in the Ukrainian Embassy. Where's Tim Kaine on this one? Where all the Democrats say, Oh, you gotta put this person under oath because this is actual, real meetings, collusion and information passed on. Anyway, the d n C member met with top officials in the Ukrainian embassy in Washington in an effort to expose ties between Trump and Manaford and Russia. According to people with knowledge of the situation, I think they all need to be put under oath now. And the Ukrainian efforts had an impact in the race, big difference. There's no evidence of any impact that Russia had in this race period end of sentence. In advancing the narrative at Trump's campaign was deeply connected to Ukraine's foe to the east, Russia, but they were are less concerted or centrally directed than then Russia's alleged hacking and dissemination of democratic emails. Goosever, by the way, put out a point that they think that at least in the case of the wiki leaks the d n C emails. At this point they reported, I don't know if it's true yet, but there are reports out there that this was all done domestically there's never been any proof or any evidence. And the one person that knows the truth, Julian Assange, said no, it was never Russia that passed on those emails to wiki leaks, and it was no state that passed it on to wiki leaks anyway. Um Russia's effort was you know, they claim it was personally directed by Vladimir Putin. The only one that we know that gave Vladimir Putin something they wanted was Hillary and that was or up to of America's uranium. And of course over a hundred million dollars goes back to the Clinton Foundation. It's called bribery. Anyway. Here to discuss and debate news round Up Information Overload is Ron Christie, former special assistant the President Bush columnists for Sidewire, Emily Shyer is of the Week and Emily, welcome back to the program. How are you? How are you? So? Tell me what part of collusion didn't exist with the Clinton campaign, the d n C in the UK, and the Ukrainian government. So your reference to the political report is a pretty wide mischaracterization because there is zero eminence. Was a top down Ukrainian Stop for a second. You can't say it's a mischaracterization of the article. When I'm reading verbatim, I read verbatim a top down, remotely equivalent affair to what top and I'll read directly. A Ukrainian American operative who was consulting for the d n C met with top officials in the Ukrainian embassy in an effort to expose ties between Trump as campaign manager and Russia. The Ukrainian efforts had an impact in the race, it goes on to say, and then more importantly, it goes further on to say that information was passed onto the d n C and to the Clinton campaign. Tell me how that's not collusion and not describing actually what our top uous intelligence officials say Russia did, which is that the best infraation we have available is that Vladimir Prudent, from a top down approach, personally directed intelligence agencies to expose information to hack the d n C and the Clinton campaign. Okay, let me. I will play our top intelligence officials all saying there's no evidence of collusion. Would you like me to play it for you. I'm sorry, I am actually not trying to be lib confused about what you're trying. You just got done saying that our top intelligence officials have been saying that in fact, all these things happen and is there's evidence of collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia. What I'm saying is that we have top intelligence officials, including from James Clapper, who is nominated first first major posts. I may add by Georgia Bush saying that is from Russia. Quote. I don't think we've ever encountered a more aggressive or a direct campaign and interedare in our election. James Clapper, James, now you're listen. Now, what you're doing is you're mixing issues together here, James Clapper. James Clapper has said that there was no evidence of collusion between the Trump Russian campaign. And then we have here we know Ukrainian Americans and this d NC operative work with the Ukrainian government for the very purpose of getting information which they got disseminating false information trying to elect Hillary Clinton. What we have is a case, this report focused on one Ukrainian American, one person who spoke to d C Committee operative for crying out loud ron Christie, Good afternoon, Sean. You know, the hypocrisy here is just frightening. This whole case is designed by those on the left to try to take down the President United States on this trumped up, no pun intended notion that the campaign of the President of the United States colluded with the Russians. The only reason they came out with this narrative, Shaun, as you and I both know so well, is to cover for the fact that Hillary Clinton lost in an embarrassing defeat and they had to have some sort of excuse to explain how could she have lost? Oh, the Russians did it. But in this case, it's clear d NC operative goes to the Ukrainian embassy, meets with officials in an embassy of a foreign government, which directly, in my view, was an effort to try to undermine the election of Donald Trump. Plane and simple. It's like it's an open and shut case. There's no ambiguity here. Now the question, Ron Christie begins, Okay, we've heard eleven months only about one issue. So my question is, why isn't the media, Why are in all these Democratic senators and congressmen, Why aren't they demanding the same thing they're demanding of the Trump campaign, Jane and people associated with Trump when there's far more evidence as a matter of fact in controvertible evidence of collusion. Well, the democratic uh democratic establishment in the media, in my view, are one and the same, and they've never tried to take one of theirs out. And they loathe the President. They loathe the fact that he uses Twitter to speak directly over them, to speak to the American people and to articulate his message, and that doesn't play well with the establishment down here in Washington, Seawan. They want to take him out because he doesn't play by their rules in the manner that they want him to act. And after eleven months, after countless investigations, they still have absolutely nothing. And to look at people like Tim Kine Center from Virginia and Adam Schiff and some of these other people who are seeing treason and crimes were committed. Either they've never read the Constitution or they have no notion of criminal law. My favorite and the most brilliant law. I had one at Georgetown GW Brothers, Jonathan Turley. But I know that you've had on your program, and he's a left winger. It says there's nothing there. They have to move on, and they can't move on because they've got nothing else. Sean, We'll take a break, will come back more with Ron Christie and Emily Shier. Will get to your calls as well. Last half hour of the program. Shaun is on number right. As we continue, Emily Shier and Ron Christie News Round Up, Information Overload Our You know, I don't even know what to say when I'm reading directly verbatim from the political article and politicals investigation, all this evidence of the Ukrainian government, their involvement in this election, their meetings with d n C officials, their dissemination of false information, their attempt to influence the American people in electillery and not Donald Trump. And you don't you don't see any need to look into this at all when it's far more, far more. It's such an example of more collusion than anything that's even been alleged with Donald Trump. And I just, you know what I find all the sickening in terms of the political nature of all of this. Why why can't you just be intellectually honest and say, yeah, they okay, at the very least they both did it. But I don't see the Trump did anything that's been proven. Emily. I mean, first of all, I'd like to point out your accusing the media, and yet it was political, which has often been accused as either mainstream, which by default means left as the ones reported on it. It is not that this issue was ignored. It was reported out. Okay, but but you don't get Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia. You don't get Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine. You get it one story, one narrative, one conspiracy theory with no evidence. Now we've got evidence here. You just said, okay, that was in January. How many thousands of hours have been spent on Trump and Russia with no evidence? Because there's much more evidence that it was directed from a top down Russian government official. What's the evidence? Tell Ron Christie what the evidence is? What is the evidence? Can person who sell to a few people in the embassy as opposed to the damning amounts of information and comperation from our intelligence agencies that Russia played an active role in helping Trump win? Wait a minute, intelligence? True? I mean you know, let me play literally answer the following question whether there were improper contexts between the Trump campaign and Russian officials. We did not include any evidence in our report, and I say our that's n s a FBI and CIA with my office and Director nur Intelligence that had anything that had any reflection of collusion between members of the Trump campaign and the Russians. And I can't play at all because we run out of time. But Ron Christie, Clapper said it, call me said it. Admir Rodgers said it. Brennan said. Obama said that the Russians had no bearing on the electoral integrity of our elections. So the notion that this was stolen, that there was collusion is a false, made up media narrative. There's not a ton of evidence out there. There's no evidence out there, not one. Can't name one official within the Russian government who met with anybody from the campaign to do anything to affect the election. It's just a made up democratic fantasy. Unbelievable, unbelievable. And the American people, you know what you see the double standard. It can't be any more flagrant than what it is now. It's just pathetic. They're so dishonest, they're so ideological, they're so morally bankrupt and corrupt. It's disgusted that to eight nine for one Shawn Tolfrey telephone number. Ron Christie, thank you, Emily Shyer, thank you. We'll take a break. When we come back, wide open telephones will get to your calls, your comments, You're intuitive, insight it and whatever else is on your mind. Next alright till the top of the hour, one sewn you want to be a part of the program. Alright, as promised, Let's get to our busy telephones we have. Bob is in Mount Pleasant. I believe in new joy Z. What's happening, Bob, Welcome to the all new A M seven ten w O R. What's going on? A good afternoon, miss for Hannony. This is an absolute, absolute honor to be speaking to to a gentleman of your stature. Bottom line is I want to commend you on on two fronts. The first front is the way you brought back against the media, against the left wing idiots for lack of a better term that came after you and try to jeopardize the Sean Hannity Show. And now I I got to thank the audience and and all of you that supported me and supported you know, the groups like you know, Media Equalizer came to my defriends and so many and really the people this program did and and honestly, this is this hasn't been the first time. It was probably the hardest, but it won't be the last time. There's a real effort to silence conservative voices. And you know, if people don't help me, I can't win. I really can't tip tip of the caps or tip of the cap. And when you do, uh speak to Mr Cyclo if he's listening. Watched his rounds early this morning. Did a fantastic job. I was I was talking to the Springer previously. And you know, from an optics standpoint, and I'm sure you would agree, and Junior would agree, it doesn't look good. But that's, you know what, big deal, rookie mistake. Chalk it up. Bottom line is a from a legal standpoint, you hear constitutional attorneys like Jonathan Turley going on fake news channel says no crime has been committed various other constitutions, no crime has been committed. So let's just get that off the table. The bottom line is this, Mr Hannity, and you can get the word out there. Trump needs a seasoned veteran in that White House. And and and the name that comes to mind certainly is is your buddy Gingrich. Okay, but I like him on the outside. I like him going to the ABC, the NBC, the the other news outlets to get that point across. It just as important on the outside as he would be in the inside. But I want a seasoned veteran in there. What would that be assigning ranks previous to another position? Possibly, But you know what a season veterans somebody with tenure A name I'm gonna throw out there is an Okay, I've seen him on the airwaves, does a does a fine job. A guy that has served in a multitude of administration that can write the ship. Because the leaks are coming from within. And now are they Obama's holdovers? Who knows? But you know, I hate to speculate, but I think they're coming from somebody that is close to Trump. And I'll let you cross the teas and top the eyes. Let me just say this, Listen, I'm not I don't I'm not there at the White House. You know, you read about in fighting and leaking and and there's way too much of it from my perspective. And I've actually told people when I talked to them that it's got to stop. The infighting has got to stop. The leaking has got to stop. The focus has got to be on fulfilling the promises the President made to the American people and advancing his agenda. That's why, all right, Mitch McConnell says they're gonna delay their little vacation. Fine, it's a good start, but it's no good if they don't get the job done. So until less than until they actually fulfill the promises. I'm skeptical. I'm not that confident now on the issue of bringing other people, and I actually do agree with you. I think new would be the perfect legislative liaison to move the agenda forward. And with all due respect to Paul ryany and and MINJ. McConnell, they're not getting the job done to my satisfaction or any Conservative that I know satisfaction. So these guys need to get their asking gear and get moving and have a sense of urgency to serve the country. By the way, their own futures are contingent on them doing this, because you can't not get healthcare done after you promised it since twenty ten and ran on it and then expect to get elected in twenty team when you have the House to senate in the White House. So if they want to be stupid and pay a political price. Then good, don't get it done, be lazy, you know, be against the president. Do whatever you're gonna do. Now. The only other thing that I'll say on this issue is maybe Mike Huckabee needs to help on the communications front. I mean, these are things that they could do from the outside and organize because they're just seasoned professionals. I I prefer those that have the kind of experience that that somebody like New King Rich played, you know. So we'll see anyway, eight Shaun is on number. Let's get back to our phones. All right, Let's go to Don in Los Angeles, California. K E, I B. What's up? Don? How are you? I'm glad you called, sir, Thank you, love you, Sean love the show. I'm a huge fan of j secular, you know, but boy, I really disagree on a lot of this Trump stuff. The only way we can really hit back at the Democrats, and it should be easy because everything they say against Trump reflects right back on them. If they like investigations, great, let's investigate Hillary. Let's investigate the leakers. Let by the way, you you sound more like James Earl Jones than anybody else that's ever called this program it. Now, I'm not the first person to tell you that, am I No that? How many people have told you it's uncanny? To me? Gosh, I hear it quite a lot. Yeah. I actually talked to a guy that gave him his first He said, he goes. I cast him for his first TV job. The second job, he had a roll the next thing you're starting in the whole damn thing. So I've been hearing it for a while. I mean, I clearly missed my calling in life. But well, I'm gonna tell you something. James Earl Jones has the best set of pipes I've ever heard one of them. Maybe I'm a ti leengitimate son. I don't know. I'm on that side of the family. They don't talk about well stop all right now listen, I would say this to you. Yeah, And I've heard a lot of liberals may well, the Ukrainians our friend, not our enemy. Wait a minute, which is they're not our friend if they're trying to pick winners and loses in our election? Wait a minute, Hang on a second. If they're helping Hillary Clinton and they're undermining Trump and they're doing research for the Clinton campaign and the d n C, and they're putting out false stories on one presidential candidate. They are trying to undermine our election process just as much as the Russians quote allegedly tried. And I have not seen the evidence that has been proven yet. Okay, Well, the answer to that is they're what they're saying about Trump is because they know about his connection with Man of Fourth and with the president they kicked out of Ukraine. There are ella you know. It's we try to influence elections. We've been doing it ever since the Cold War, to promote democracy. In most cases, not in Obama's case against Israel that's wrong too. But for us, they have equity. We have to have clean hands. And there's no question. But wait a minute. The whole thing is collusion to defeat Hillary. That's what the whole phony, blackness, helicopter not for me, okay, But but I'm only saying you it doesn't matter friend or foe. If you're trying to influence America's doesn't matter friend. Well it's okay. If if the Ukraine just because they're friendly to us or trying to influence our elections, wrong, I disagree. Tries to influence our elections. We try to influence this, we try to influence that. But you're you're acting. I'm saying that. No. But if if we're taking the position that influencing or impacting or trying to impact act American elections, and in the case of the Ukrainians are disseminating false information to the American people, that's a nice way of saying they're lying. Well, how do you know it's false, Because we know it's false. We know the information that they've tuned out from Trump. Yet all I've heard is how much he wants to get along with him because of his business. Well, all we heard from from the Clinton campaign was we're gonna have a Russian reset. And Hillary gave of our uranium to that idiot exactly. And that's wrong. But you know what they say the same thing you say. They say that's not illegal. It's wrong, but it's not illegal. The Iranian dealist. You can't give me one bit of You can't give me any evidence of Russian collusion with the Trump campaign. I'll give you all the time you need. Go I haven't seen. Well, sure, Well, let's let the Well, first of all, let's let the election play out as far as collusion, collusion, what's your definition of collusion? Give me any accept give me, give me no prudent our enemy, don don you're slow down. I'm asking you a specific question, because I just gave repeatedly on this program today, specific evidence of the Ukrainians colluding with the d n C, A paid d n C staffer, information passed on in the Clinton campaign of the DNC. Give me an example. Everything I've heard from Trump. The only thing I can go by this what I get on the media. I'm not in the FBI, I'm not an investigator. All I know is all I hear from him is apologizing, saying this dumb idea about how we should cooperate with Putin. That's like the police cooperating with the mafia for the cybersecurity. That's insane, you know, I you know, It's like, I'm not an investor. Let's let the investigation. But the bottom line is, I can give you evidence that is corroborated, confirmed, and incontrovertible that the Ukrainians tried to influence, lie to the American people, and propagandize them. But you can't give me any evidence. After eleven long months of NonStop conspiracy theories of Trump Russia collusion. You know you sound like let me play Jake Tapper and Brian Williams and Andrea Mitchell all unaware. In the case of Mitchell and Williams that the Ukrainians are helping Hillary Clinton or Jake tappero it doesn't matter because she lost, is it does if they're trying to manipulate us. Andrew mitchell I said earlier, no public events for three days on the president's calendar. He leaves tonight for Paris for Bastille Day celebrations. But we've heard from the president again three minutes ago on Twitter. I'm hoping you can help me decipher this. Why aren't the same standards placed on the Democrats? Period? Look what Hillary Clinton may have gotten away with disgraceful. You want to take a whack at that. Um trying to figure it out myself. Earlier he called it a witch hunt. So he's still on the fake news or what the Democrats are doing that combo. Perhaps this is a reference to email, since his son voluntarily tweeted out the whole email chain. Nobody was forcing him to do that. Other than the questions that were raised by the New York Times, and they said that they were about to reveal them themselves. So uh, he voluntarily released his emails. So perhaps it's an email reference. But it's hard to figure out what this is about. You know, if we're gonna do this, what about the Ukrainian government and Alexandra Chalupa Chalupa who was a Clinton aide? Who was she was? She was a consultant of the Democratic National Committee. Well okay, but she was the liason. She was the liaison with the Ukrainian government given information. But it doesn't matter if we're talking it does It doesn't matter because the Chalupa thing is is nothing like this. But if we're talking about US Code five thirty one, which is what they're saying, that they that Alan got something of a value, you get the Clinton Ukrainians offering information about what Paul Manafort did in Ukraine is not the same thing as that. All that does matter, doesn't it? But Trump is president, he's the one with the finger on the button. He's the commander. Okay, give me, give me an example of any collusion. What do you call what's your definition? Come on, don to give me an example. Give me an example. Give me an example, with the Trump pain colluded with the Russians and the Russians did anything? What did they do that? Now, we know that the Russians tried to influence the election, but it's no different than what they've done in testimony from our intelligence officials said they've done it in past elections, they did it in this election, and they'll do it in future elections since the Soviet Union exists. Okay, but the Ukrainians are doing the same thing and we have evidence of it. Well, what do you call this? What do you I mean? What is your definition of collusion? Collusion is did did the Trump campaign collude with Russia? For example? On the email league to wiki leaks, We have no evidence that took place except that Julian Assans, the one guy that knows, told me multiple times, no, it wasn't Russia. Oh great, okay, fine, so Julian Assange is our guy now, grel Juliet, Well, hang on, Julian Assanji and Wiki Leaks hasn't been wrong in eleven years. You can't name one time they've ever gotten their facts wrong because it doesn't exist. They've never been proven wrong. I'm not that big of a fan of Julius. It doesn't matter. It's a fact. They've never been proven wrong. Okay, So what what would it What is your definition of collusion? What would it take for you do that? Okay, I'll give you an example. What the Ukrainians did by meeting with the paid d n C staffer and putting out false information and doing research op research on Trump the way the Ukrainians did in this campaign, that's collusion with the d n C and with with the Hillary campaign. That's collusion. Then go along against that, investigate that too. If that's wrong, put her in jail. But guess what they might be in the in the same cell with Trump? How about that? Okay? But done? The only difference between my argument and yours is you don't have any facts to back up what you're saying. Well, I'm not an investigator, I'm not them. But then if you don't know, wait a minute, If you don't know, don I love you. But if you don't know the truth, then stop speculating. Here the Ukrainian you know, remember the political story Ukrainian sabotage of Trump backfired. You know, I've got the article, I've gone through it in all of its detail, he of officials scrambling to make amends with the president of act after working to boost Hillary Clinton. And it's on my website. Go look at Hannity dot com. The whole articles up there, all seventeen pages of it. Did you say russ our enemy? Putents our enemy. I don't trust Vladimir Putin as far as I could throw him. Okay, is he our enemy? Yes? Or no? You asked me a question. Okay, I think Vladimir Putin is an enemy of the United States. I think yes. I believe he is out for his own interests. I love you, man, but okay, we agree on that. That's progress, all right. James Earl Jones calling in on the Sean Hannity. You know you sound like James right. Can I ask you a question? You need to make money with those voice How old are you if you don't mind me asking? Oh, I'm way over twenty one. I remember when the Dodgers came to l A. Okay, you can still make money with that voice. Go out and make money to look for a big voiceover company and see if you can't make money. Good deal. I'll be your stunt double. I don't you don't sound like me. I wish I sounded as good as you. I'll be your voice double. Oh my god, alright, my friend, God bless you. Why am I so frustrated? I feel like I'm It's so hard to argue with people in the love sometimes he is such a nice guy. What a set of pipes. Wow, it's like Scott shann Annity's me Channons sounding great. Shannon, No, you gotta get to the issue. You got you and Lynda arguing way too much. Hannity Tonight, ten Eastern, Fox News Channel. All Right, all that the left is saying about Trump Russia collusion, Donald Jr. Guess what it applies to Ukraine? It applies to Obama meddling in his Israel's elections. It applies to Chris Steele and the phony dossier. Well of all the details. Tonight, ten Eastern, Hannity, Fox News. We got new Gingridge tonight. Kelley and Conway will join us tonight, Greg jareded Haraldo Rivera ten Eastern. Don't miss it, Hannity, Fox. Thanks for being with us. Back here tomorrow,

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