All right, glad you with us. We are expecting it should be happening any minute now. A decision on the issue of charges in the shooting in Atlanta Rayshard Brooks case. We'll go to that when that announcement takes place. Man, I tell you this. I talking to a friend of mine today and it's like, um, this year has been rough. It's been rough on everybody. The worst pandemic YEP since nineteen seventeen and nineteen eighteen. I never you know then we had to all in horror the country watch what happened to George Floyd can't happen. President laid out his reforms as we told you yesterday. You know the amazing thing about that is, you know, those are all things that Joe Biden and Barack Obama could have done. They did nothing. They didn't do any of these changes. Now everyone's telling President Trump what to do and how he needs to do it. Did they forget Cambridge and Baltimore and Ferguson Missouri? Because it seems like they all did forget it all. There's a rasp muse and poll that should make every American pause and be sad. Frankly, that was released yesterday, thirty four percent of likely US voters think that the US will experience a second civil war sometime in the next five years, and that includes on nine percent of say it's very likely we are the United States of America. Do we want to remain the United States of America? Because I do believe it's the greatest country God ever gave man. You know, we have the ability to right wrongs, correct injustices. Why I wrote my book Live Free or Die, with the history of why we become the greatest wealth producing nation on the face of the earth, and what is at stake when you compare the Democrats twenty twenty Agenda, New Green Deal madness, everything's free madness, everything's government run madness, get rid of and eliminate all the you know, the lifeblood the economy, oil and gas and coal gone forever. Okay, they're nuts versus capitalism and liberty and risk and reward and ingenuity of the American mind. You know. Put it in this context. I said from the very beginning of the COVID breakout that I have a lot of faith in our medical scientists and researchers and medical professionals, and every indication is and there was an article about this today. We'll get an update actually on this today from doctor Oz. Bill O'Reilly also joins us today. I mean the ability to break down the sequence of coronavirus never happened this fast. They did it weeks like six weeks, and now there are that they believe it the latest that they might be able to. Now Operation warp speed is what it's called to deliver three hundred million doses of a vaccine for any American that wants one. By the way, testing I can tell you you can go anywhere and get a test. In New York and pretty much every place I've gone too, there's no line ever, you know, maybe have to wait ten minutes. That's it. You go in, you actually register yourself, You put in your insurance information blah blah blah, and you know email address or phone number, they send you over your results, text back to you whatever. But anyway, the officials now saying that fourteen promising candidates for a vaccine. Originally it was one hundred. They've no sort of weeded it down to the fourteen best already in clinical trials, and they're gonna now get it further down to about the seven most promising candidates. All successful vaccines will be approved by the FDA, and I'm hearing it might even be sooner than January when that number is available. That's American ingenuity. That's what freedom gives you. We have, Comrade the Blasio, I mean, I can't understand this. Now there's a pushback about the president and the rally, and every Democrat criticized, and the president he's having a rally in Oklahoma. You know they're gonna have temperature checks everybody. If you want to go to the rally, we'll have to wear a mask and still nearly a million people, and you have to sign a waiver that you understand that there is a risk. It's been some resurgence in about nineteen states. We'll talk to doctor Oz about it. I go through anecdotally what I always say as well, every store I went to, my grocery store, in particular, my rite Aid, my pharmacy, they never closed, They never shut down. The medical professionals, those making all the ppe equipment in the world, they kept working. They never shut down. They kept New York and all of these states, New Jersey and Pennsylvania, every state that was struggling alive and fed, and farmers and packers and drivers, truck drivers, and the kids that stock the shelves, and the cashiers that would check you out. I like the fast one to do it myself. I just do it faster, and I don't mind packing my own bags. I prefer to do it anyway. It's all good. And then you got the hypocrisy. There's been no talk of COVID during all of these protests. Many peaceful people, but unfortunately the anarchists are there. The troublemakers are there, the rioters. They go out and riot and looting and arson, and eight hundred cops hurt, bottles, bricks, rocks, molotov cocktails. Number dead, eight hundred injured, one guy in Vegas now paralyzed. But all of a sudden, now Trump is having a rally. Now we're going to talk about COVID. I guess the simple answer is is just to say that it's not a rally, it's a protest. Then they should have no problem with the president going to Oklahoma on Saturday. Comrade de Blasio's out there every day. Sometimes he'd got caught without his mask on, you know, driving to places he need not even drive, just to take little walks and going late into this whole thing with going to his gym, and he says that it's inappropriate for kids to use playgrounds and reminds the virus fight. This is the guy that's let anarch even rule the streets in New York every night. Nobody listens to him ever on his curfew. I mean, it's madness all over the place, and him and Cuomo, they're still fighting each other. You can't even make it up. What's going on in the city of the state of New York. Now, there's been a lot of talk about, well, what should the president do as it relates to I guess they've negotiated it down that they're gonna only put up concrete barriers instead of the walls that I thought were bad walls. Apparently it's okay to build walls if you're in the autonomous free love Zone chops or chatz or whatever you're calling it at any given moment, or you know, the spaghetti pot luck zone. Funniest thing I ran on TV last night is yea fake news CNN. Their reporters are calling it. It's like a street festival and the people there here. The reporters say it's not a street festival, correcting them right in the air, the people that are in the autonomy zone, the free love zone. Then you have the same thing with conspiracy tv MSDNC. They say the same stupid thing, they get corrected live on television. No, it's not this is a festival. And so now we have you know, it seems like the mayor's just aiding and abetting. How long is it gonna go on? Well, it could be the summer of love. Well, there are residents that live in there, there are businesses in there, and they're doing nothing to help restore law and order, and they're enabling and helping the anarchists take over city blocks, and they're doing it basically with the seal of approval of the governor and of the mayor. Well, then that raises the question. The President every day has been going out saying I am ready at a moment's notice to give you the help you need to restore order. Now my advice is, well, the people of Washington State, you voted for this, just like the people in New York. I look, I didn't vote for democratic rule all these years. I live here because of my job. I'm hoping to move one day soon and get out of here. Stop paying, you know, the massive amount of taxes. And I don't even think the Governor of New York, based on previous comments he's made about conservatives, basically said you're not a New Yorker. Okay, I'll take him at his word. I can live in a place with better weather, lower taxes, cheaper housing. And I think having spoken with my staff and radio and TV, they all love the idea. We've all learned teleworking works not that hard. So and I think that's all gonna be a game changer. So but the president, now, okay, he's offering help. They're supposed to ask him for the help. He's begging them, and he's offering the help. Illinois. Same thing, all the violence in Chicago. Nobody's fixed over the years, you know, keep saying I'm here to help whatever you need. Tell me what you need. Just like during Corona, he built hospitals, he manned the hospitals, he sent all the ventilators, all the ppe. I've given you a little laundry list. We have good news on the economy. I love the news yesterday. Perhaps that what we've been talking about, what we wanted was the v shape recovery. I'm seeing numbers that are really blowing me away. Retail sales month of May. I didn't think we'd see this kind of number any I didn't even know it would be this large till maybe August, after we got the July numbers, hoping that by then everything would be open up. And you know, it's very slow still. In a lot of states. They're gonna be hot spots. It's not if it's when they're happening. We're dealing with them better. We're going to have you know, there's going to be little waves. We're dealing with them better. We're learning if you protect the most vulnerable and the elderly. Is a new study out of Great Britain as it relates to what is a steroid? Not your typical story more in the line, I guess pregnic Zone. It's not pregnic Zonne though, but he'll tell us all about it. That once you're in a state of respiratory unrest because of COVID nineteen, that you know they're saving a third more lives. So we're coming up which better treatments. They think they have, the vaccine, All these things are going to happen. Great news in terms of the jobs that were created, two and a half million. They thought projected we lose what nine million, They're only off by eleven and a half million in their projections. Just like all the models and projections how many would get coronavirus. It does bring into a fine focus the president's instincts on quarantines and the travel band ten days after the first known case. Anyway, when you get retail sales month of May rising nearly eighteen percent, Wow, that's amazing. Two and a half million jobs created in May, that's amazing. That is great for everybody in this country. So in one hundred and thirty nine days, this will all factor in, you know. And then I watched Joe, and I watched Barack, and I watch all the Democrats, and all they do is hate Trump, as they've always done. And you know, they all had an opportunity. You know what you know, Look, Ferguson happened under the watch of Barack and Joe. What did they do? Nothing? It's Cambridge nothing, other incidents nothing, they did nothing. What did they do to improve police community relations? Nothing? I mean, Chicago was in the news a lot in the eight years that Barack and Joe or the leaders of government, they barely mentioned it. You know, did they improve relations after the riots and Ferguson or Baltimore, Maryland, any of these They didn't do anything. They rushed to judgment, and they often villified the police, which, by the way, has to stop. What's happening in this this widespread, unending, unfair vilification of police officers. That's not gonna end. Well, already eight hundred, they're injured, some are dead, and some will be paralyzed for the rest of their lives. You can't do you can't demonize a group of people because of the actions of a few. And I'm consistent in this point of view. I said it about the FBI and the deep state. Most people that are cops, they don't get paid a lot. It's a hard, hard job. It's a risky job. You're putting your life on your line on the line. And what happens, by the way, when you need the help, what are you gonna call. You're gonna you're gonna call the autonomous zone of Summer of Love street festival, carnival like atmosphere protesters to come help here. That's not gonna work. You know, we need the police now. I like the improvements we're making. Joe and Rock did nothing to make those changes. They had the same issues when they were in office. You know, over four thousand people killed in Chicago alone. What did they do there? Nothing? Tens of thousands of others shot nothing. This is a peaceful zone. This is part of the deep seated protests and rage around police brutality sent to which it has been peaceful since Monday, after more than a week of classes between the demonstrators and the police. Now you've seen essentially almost like a street festival type atmosphere, street festival type festbappes, you know, with a very festival with a very intentional purpose. It is not a street festival. It is not a street festival. Do not say that. Shame on you for saying that what you're seeing in front of me is a peaceful situation. In fact, it sort of looks like a street festival. Is this an area that has been I mean, the president makes it sound like this is an area that has been taken over and is being ruled by you know, somebody, and you know it is being ruled by by you know, by I don't know how we would describe them, everybody, everybody. How long do you think Seattle and those few blocks looks like this? I don't know. We could have a summer of love. Tell that to the police who was supposed to be in that precinct though. But I understand your sentiment, Mayor. We don't have to sacrifice public safety for First Amendment rights. Both can exist, and we'll make sure that both exists in Seattle. This is in public safety. This is the taking over of your city. I mean, unbelievable. I guess yesterday, I guess it was the mayor of Olympia, Washington. It wasn't her talking about her house and how frightening it is. Look, I'm just going to tell you something. They're aiding and abetting this. Now. I think there's a trap. Now. Constitutionally we have been over the Insurrection Act eighteen o seven. Now does the Insurrection Act give the president the authority to send military troops or guardsmen? You know, you could even send in other law enforcement agents. He's the problem is Washington State doesn't want it, Nor does this nutty mayor want it. Neither does Chicago want it. Neither does Comrade de Blasio or Governor Cuomo want it now. If it gets to a point where the President has to act as all of the constitutional authority to do so. If a city or state refuses to take actions that are necessary to defend the life and property of their residence, then he said, I will deploy the US military and solve the problem for them. He doesn't want to do that. He has the ability to do that. The Attorney General acknowledges that he has the ability to do that. It can be invoked. If there's insurrection against state law and a state government requires federal assistance to restore order, he can do all of that. It can be invoked. Now, let's all hope and pray that moment never comes, because when it comes, we'll know when the moment is all right, the case of Raychard Brooks in Atlanta we have. Now we're gonna go to Paul Howard, the Fulton County, Georgia DA announcing the charges. Before we started today, I wanted to acknowledge missus Miller, who is the husband of Rashard Brooks. She is here today with her attorney, and after we make our presentation, she is going to make some remarks or mister Stewart. We also have with us today three witnesses from West Memphis, Tennessee, and they are here with their lawyer, Sean Williams, and we are also going to ask mister Williams to address you as well. So we have decided to issue warrants in this case to day. I have with me copies of the warrants and after my presentation, we will let you know how you can get copies of the warrants to date. So the question is asked, why were we able to charge this case now? So I want to explain that we have already had an opportunity to speak with three of the witnesses in this case, and those are the three witnesses who were from West Memphis, Tennessee. We have had an opportunity to conduct interviews with seven other witnesses other than the three witnesses from Tennessee. We've also had an opportunity to view let's see if you can turn it on? Gets ye? So Tracy, that's fine. So we have had an opportunity to review eight video tapes to Atlanta body cam tapes to Atlanta police. We have also had an opportunity to review a windy surveillance tape. We have also viewed three citizens cell phone videos. With many of the videos, we had the opportunity to enhance the videos so that we could get a better look. The other thing that we have had an opportunity to do is to view some of the physical evidence. The Chevrolet Trailblazer was a vehicle that was in the line at Wendy's on the night of this incident and it received a shot from Officer Roth's gun. We've had an opportunity, along with the GBI now to view that trailblazer. My office has had an opportunity to inspect the crime scene. We have conducted a canvas of the area. We started our investigation at about one fifteen am on Saturday morning, and we have been working on this case around the clock since that time. Because of the next line, we have spent some time examining the taser evidence in this case. We've actually examined and possessed the two tasers that were used. We have also had an opportunity to examine the taser logs that are prepared as the tasers are used, and we have also consulted with a taser expert from the company that manufactures the tasers. We received a preliminary medical autopsy, we've received a preliminary ballistics report, and in reaching our conclusions today, we have worked with both the Georgia Bureau of Investigation as well as the Atlanta Police Department. This will be the fourth time that we have asked that arrest warrants or issued in a case before an indictment. This list the other three cases that we were involved with where an a rest warrant was issued prior to indictment. Unfortunately, this marks the fortieth prosecution of police officers from misconduct here in our county, and this is the ninth time that we've prosecuted a homicide case committed by a police officer. Eight of those cases involved black males, and one of those cases involved a black female. So in reaching our decision, there were some considerations that we considered important and one of the things that we noted from our evaluation was that mister Brooks on the night of this incident was calm, He was cordial and really displayed a cooper prative nature. Secondly, even though mister Brooks was slightly impaired, his demeanor during this incident was almost jovial. Also, we noted that he received many instructions from the Atlanta officers and he was asked many questions. Some of the questions he was asked repeatedly, but for forty one minutes in seventeen seconds, he followed every instruction, he answered the questions. The fourth thing we noted is that mister Brooks was never informed that he was under arrest for driving under the influence, and this is a requirement of the Atlanta Police Department. When one is charged with the DUI. The Atlanta Police Department's own procedures required that that person is informed immediately that they are under arrest. And then he was and then he was grabbed from the rear by Officer Roth, who made an attempt to physically restrain him. After the forty one minute and seventeen second discussion, we concluded and considered it as one of our important considerations that mister Brooks never presented himself as a threat. At the very beginning, he was peacefully sleeping in his car. After he was awakened by the officer, he was cooperative and he was directed to move his car to another location. He calmly moved his car. Mister Brooks was asked whether or not he had a weapon, He indicated that he did not. Without any resistance. He passed his driver's license to the officers, and the officers then asked mister Brooks whether or not he would consent to a pat down a body search, and mister Brooks allowed them to search him, and the search yielded no weapon. We found that it was of interest that when the officers patted mister Brooks down they noticed there was a bulge in his pants. They did not pull that item out of his pocket. They took mister Brookes's word that that bulge represented a number of dollar bills. But mister Brooks never displayed any aggressive behavior during the seventy forty one minutes in seventeen seconds. Now, this is another important consideration that we discovered as we evaluated this case. Once mister Brooks was shot, there is in Atlanta policy that requires that the officers have to provide timely medical attention to mister Brooks already anyone who is injured. But after mister Brooks was shot, for some period of two minutes and twelve seconds, there was no medical attention applied to mister Brooks. But when we examined the video tape and in our discussions with witnesses, what we discovered is during the two minutes and twelve seconds that Officer Roff actually kicked mister Brooks while he laid on the ground while he was there fighting for his life. Secondly, from the videotape, we were able to see that the other officer, Officer Broslan, actually stood on mister Brooks's shoulders while he was there struggling for his life. We were able to conclude that, based on the way that these officers conducted themselves while mister Brooks was lying there, that the demeanor of the officers immediately after the shooting did not reflect any fear or danger of mister Brooks, but their actions really reflected other kinds of emotions. So as we are drawing our legal conclusion in this case, we were led by the two foundational cases in this matter, one being Tennessee versus Garner, and what that case points out is when an officer is pursuing a fleeing suspect, that the officer may not use force to prevent escape unless the officer has probable cause to believe that the suspect poses an immediate threat of death or of serious physical injury to that officer. The next foundational case that we use in our analysis is Graham versus Connor, which says that this test is based upon that of a reasonable officer on the scene and not the individual officer, but a reasonable officer on the scene. We've concluded at the time mister Brooks was shot that he did not pose an immediate threat of death, our serious physical injury to the officer, our officers. If you would get the photograph, the thetation, that's good here, all right, par stations along the Sean Hannity Show Network, We're gonna stay with our coverage here. And if you're listening uh to specifically the DA of Fulton County, Georgia, Paul Howard Junior talking about the case of this region shooting a Raychard Brooks. Let's go back to this bitness. Photograph illustrates is the point that Officer A Raw at this point were aspiring matagor and this is missus Brooks who was firing matagor as well, but I don't knew if you can see it clearly the prongs of the table the teager we're actually fired above Officer Ross head might also look at the position of officers Row in mister Brooks that they are here next to this red automobile. If we look at the next photograph Tramp, than if we look at the next photograph, we'll see that the positions of both parties they've changed. Mister Brooks has now moved away from hi original position, and we estimate the distances probably about twelve feet and Officer Roth has moved about ten feet from the position in what is our exhibit number one. This second video or second still shows the very instance that the shot was fired into the back of mister Brooks, and we have also calculated the distance and the distance that they are part of that time was eighteen feet three inches at the time that this shot was fired. So based upon that information, we have concluded that mister Brooks was running away at the time that the shot was fired. Mister Brooks was shot twice the back. One of the shots was a center shot to the back that penetrated his heart, and it was done by a nine millimeter block. Now, one of the things that we also relied upon in our conclusion is something that is called under the law, or referred to as an excited utterance, and that's when someone makes an immediate statement and because it is made without the ability to consult with counsel or to think about it, under the law of an excited utterance is considered as highly reliable. And at the time that the shot was fired, the utterance made by Officer Roff was I got it. That was a statement that was made at that time. We also noted that Officer Roff was firing a taser at mister Brooks. The City of Atlanta SOPs in fact prohibit officers from firing tasers at someone who is running away. So the City of Atlanta says, you cannot even fire a taser at someone who is running away. So you certainly can't fire a gun, a handgun at someone who is running away. So, in addition to our findings, as many of you all already know, that the Atlanta mayor, Mayor Keisha Bottoms and the Police Department concluded that Officer Roth's actions were excessive and in violation of APD's SOPD. As an SOP I believe it's four point one point one, and after their analysis that the actions were excessive, Officer Roth was fired. We have also concluded that Roth was aware that the taser in Brooks's possession, that it was fired twice, and once it's fired twice, it presented no danger to him. Are there any other persons? Now, we have had something quite remarkable to happen, and it involves the testimony of the other officer, Devin Brosden. Because Officer Brosden has now become a state's witness, he has decided to testify on behalf of the state in this case. What he has said to us, that is, within a matter of days, he plans to make a statement regarding the culpability of Officer Roth, but he indicated that he is not psychological willing to give that statement to date. Officer Brosdon, however, has admitted that he was in fact standing on mister Brooks's body immediately after the shooting. So these are the charges that we have had fili day signed by one of our superior court judges. These are the eleven charges against Officer Roth. The first charge is felony murder. This is a death that is as a result of an underlying felony, and in this case, the underlying felony is aggravating the salt with a deadly weapon, and the possible sentences for a felony murder conviction would be life, life with our parole or the death penalty. Now he's also charged by in the rest warrant with aggivated assault with a deadly weapon, and this is an account charging him for the shooting of mister Brooks, and the possible sentence for aggivated assault is one of the twenty years. The second or the third aggivated assault account is for the shooting towards our in the direction of mister Melvin Evans. Mister Evans was the person who was seated in the car. We have the picture of mister Hope and if you would point out this automobile is the place that mister Evans and his two companions were driving and the shot was fired, and I believe we've also got a photo of the shot that ended up in the vehicle. Thank you. Gotta standing up. And so with count um four, uh with at who was in I think a little difficulty there. As soon as we get the audio back, uh, if you're just joining us, Uh wow, just unfolding really and in live time before our eyes here and that was Paul. All right, we have the audio back. Paul Howard, Junior, Pulton County DA towards or in the direction of Michael Perkins. Mister Perkins seated in the rear of this same vehicle at that time. There's a charge for criminal damage for shooting into that vehicle. Also, Officer Roff is also Officer Roff is charged with seven violations of office. Each one of those carries a one to five sentence. These are violations of his oath of office for the City of Atlanta, arresting mister Brooks for the d UI without immediately informing him of the arrests, shooting a taser at mister Brooks while he was running away, which again is a violation. All right, uh wow, if you're just joining us, a lot to go through here. That's Paul Howard, Junior, Fulton County, Georgia District Attorney saying a lot there. The second officer, not the one that fired the shot, apparently is turned state witness. There are eleven specific charges in this case, and starting with felony murder, aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, possible life sentence for Officer Rolf. All right, glad you with us, Howard too, Sean Hannity Show, We start with the breaking news. Now there's a question and answer period. The DA of Fulton County in Georgia, Paul Howard, has now announced these charging officer Garrett Rolf that is the officer in this Wendy's parking lot shooting that took place with eleven counts including felony murder, aggravated assault, criminal damage to property, violations of his oath. Officer Devon Bronson is being charged with aggravated assault and two violations of his oath of office. The DA said they were able to interview several witnesses to the shooting, as well as eight videos that recorded the incident, including the surveillance, the bodycams, personal cell phones of people that were there a witnesses. He said that they have examined the tasers stun guns used. I never had an answer to this question to shoot once or twice. That was resolved, that shot twice. He talked also about the officers failing to render aid, which by law they need to do as quickly as possible, and it took two minutes and twelve seconds. He talked a lot about the original time lapse in this forty one minute, seventeen seconds and That was a point that I made in my analysis of this is that up until the moment when the officers tried to cuff in this particular case, Raychard Brooks, everything was fine. Everyone's seeing professional, courteous. It was even a rapport established. In the case of officer the second officer, Devon Bronson, he had said, I'm sorry to hear about your mother's death. We just got to do this. Make it's make sure it's okay for you to drive. Then as that moment everything changed. There's a lot of other, you know, other issues involved in this. We're gonna get to our legal panel here in just a second, but the two minutes twelve seconds. He also I had not heard this by anybody before the DA, claiming that the one the officer involved in the actual shooter shooting incident, Officer rolf had actually kicked mister Brooks as he was on the ground. Officer Bronson said he stood on mister Brooks's shoulder. Not sure exactly what that is, but you gotta understand here, when we're talking about the charges eleven total, and that they're charging him for felony murdered, that could be a life. That could be life if you talk about the second charge, aggravated assault in that particular charge, now you're talking about one. I'm sorry, you're literally now one to twenty years. That's aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, criminal damage to property, violation of oath. Now the biggest I think the most interesting development to me in this is that the second officer, Devin Bronson, apparently has turned to state witness says he will make a statement on the culpability of Officer Rolf who was the actual actually involved in the shooting, did admit that he stood on his shoulder after the shooting. I'm sure there's video of that and anyway here to break down this from a legal point of view, we bring in David Shoon's Civil Liberties Attorney board member. By the way, Alabama Civil Liberties Union former board member Leo Terrell, civil rights attorney is with us Vince Ellison, conservative columnist, lecturer, author of the book They Iron Triangle. Leo, I'm gonna start with you today. A lot of times in these cases, you know, we have what we call overcharging, right, I think that And it was an interesting post on Twitter by by Jonathan Turley, a friend of mine said and talking about this specific case and what he was saying, the new evidence is important and any abuse following the shooting could be a basis for different charges. He talks about Tennessee v. Gardner. You know, would would would focus on the actual shooting itself, and you have a wide variety of charges here, and that Gardners would be focused on the shooting, not the abuse following the shooting. But now that the other officer is a state witness that will testify against Rolf, that's Bronson against Wolf, I agree with him, that could be a game changer. Under the case law in the area, it would otherwise be a lot tougher for the prosecution. Now there will be a jury of twelve people that will ultimately now make these decisions. And in other cases we've seen and we've witnessed this over the years, Leo, and if you overcharge, you take a great risk in doing so. What are your thoughts, Well, Sean, you did a great summary of this and I got twenty five years of police miss conduct cases and I'll tell you right now very clearly, first of all, overcharging, no question about it. Tennessee Gardner is in play. Is the case that basically concerns what was in Rows state of mind. The other officer can't tell the jury what was in Rows state of mind when he fired those shots. Let's also remember that mister Brooks, when he was running, he was a flee seller himself, and that's gonna be played because he assaulted those officers, took the officers stun gun and start running. So he is a flee feller. Not like the situation we have in the Floyd case. This case is totally separate. So there's a lot of facts of the district attorney did not talk about, and of course he did not make any reference or any statements as to what was in officers rows state of mind because he doesn't know what I'm saying. Well, he did try to say. He tried to imply with his immediate what they call utterance when he said, apparently on tape, I got him. You don't know. I don't know how you interpret that word I got him other than meaning that he aimed and he shot and he didn't miss or something like that. I mean, you can interpret it a million ways. In my view, you're rate that statement I got him. He's that after he failed. Down Again, we're talking about what led up to him firing that weapon. What did he see? What did he see or did he fear? For example, that he thought that he was going to be shot with the stun gun, that he was going to be overpowered, and this guy was going to take his his gut weapon from him. There is a variety of different factors. Let me sum up by saying that this is a jury fact question overcharge. I think they weigh overcharged selling the murdered. That meant that basically the officer was committee felony as he was pursuing him with his gun and shot it regardless. There's one other interesting thing that he said. Under Georgia law, you're not allowed to fire a taser at anyone running away. Well, there might be a mitigating circumstance, that being that he turned around and I believe from what I saw, fired the taser in the direction of the officer. He made another statement that Officer Rolf was aware that the taser had been fired twice. I've been waiting to hear how many times that taser could be fired again. There will be a defense and a defense attorney that is going to challenge all of that. Let me let me follow up. I saved that you have had a lot of experts on your show, a lot of police experts who are going to justify this officer's conduct. And let me tell you right now, Georgia state law is one thing. But that US Supreme Court case that you keep mentionedy the listeners should know Tennessee versus Gardner and Graham versus Connor. Those cases control everything. Shote bomb line, tough case. Either he will overcharge. And let's not forget the DA is up for reelection. Let's go to David Shoon, your defense attorney. This is what you do. How do you look at the case, the charges, and everything else in between. Yeah, I suppose I agree and disagree with some of what mister Treille said. First of all, the Cousti charge felony murder, the officer's state of mind is not directly relevant. That is what they One advantage the government has is they don't have to prove malice under Georgia law. The statue read sixty and five to one s person commits defensive felony murder. A commission of a felony causes the death of another without irrespective of malice. I think it's an overcharge because it shouldn't have been charged a felony murder. They had to struggle at first. The felony murder has to be an assault was committed something like that. The key here it's a self defense case from the defense standpoint, and the bad facts though for that is that he was shot in the back. A taser can be considered a deadly weapon. If he fired the taser the officer, and the officer convinces the jury he feared for his life, then the officer could win Tennessee versus. Gardner says, you can't just shoot a fleeing felon. You have to believe that he was posed an immocent, imminent danger to yourself or to a third. Okay, based on the tape as you see it. From a legal perspective, again, you're a defense attorney, a civil rights attorney like Leo. When the when, when in fact they turned and shot the taser? Does that then make the standard? In other words, this is a legal question, does that legally warrant turn in? It can turn in a matter of seconds if he's facing him, and that's when the cops shoots. The cop has a lot better case Once he turned. The forensic shows he shot him in the back. He was running away. Apparently we don't know that yet. A different forensic law says you're not allowed to fire a taser and anyone running away. That's yeah, that's the law, by the way, around the country, there are a number of cases it say, as long as the person did no longer posed and spend his threat, you can't even fire a taser at him. It sounds counterintuitive, but that's the law. I had a case in Alabama in which guy was running away and the cop understood the law to be because he had committed a felony, he could shoot him. He shot him and killed him. That cop ended up becoming our best witness because that was a mistaken policy. The jurisdiction hadn't changed it after Tennessee versus Gardner Vince Ellison. I know you're not an attorney by background. We have a lot of horrific things that we've been watching going around the country. Universally, everyone's condemned what happened to George Floyd. Very different case here, still sad and tragic, and he just you know, if you go all that time, forty one minutes and seventeen seconds, and everyone was professional courteous, respectful, and it's so sad all of it to me. Well, those two, the two lawyers who have gave great, great analysis. Here's the political analysis. Those officers didn't have a chance. They saw the mob in that last and they were going to charge them no matter what. That is the political landscape the guy got But let me, let me, let me play Devil's advocate. I'm playing it on both sides now, okay, But he got shot twice in the back. Is it if you're not allowed to fire a taser at anyone running away, the guy turns back and shoots it, they're gonna have to prove that he knew that it had been fired twice. I didn't know whether it had one or two shots at that moment. Is that? Does that meet the legal standard? In other words? In other words, that you believe there's a real threat of physical injury. Well, for my law enforcement experience, you know, I was a corressonal officer. I think I've done I don't think officers should have to take any type of punishment. I think he chose to turn around and shoot at the officer. The officer, whatever his mind, will have to testify as that. But politically, it did not matter what happened. Those officers are going to go down. That ain't the biggest game changers. The other officers, attorney, state witnesses, announced by the DA, by the prosecutor. I'll tell you, I'll tell you what I'm troubled by that. First of all, I said, Ellison is absolutely right. But I'll tell you what I'm troubled by. The prosecutor here went well beyond what he's entitled to do under the rules of ethics, both the American Bar Association Standards for the prosecution and George's rules of ethics. He cannot align himself exclusively with the victim, throw the cop under the or any any defendant under the bus, and then host a press conference for a great lawyer. Yeah, I mean that was all right. Stay on that point, David Leo Terrell, David shown Vince Ellison. More on the other side, Bill O'Reilly. Today we are one hundred and thirty nine days out of an election. We'll get to that doctor oz on whether or not it's a second wave of COVID, And as we roll along eight hundred and nine four one, Sean, you want to be a part of the program, Bill O'Reilly at the bottom of the hour. Yeah, we still do have an election in one hundred and thirty nine days. We'll get us take on that. Also, we'll check in with doctor Oz, the rise, COVID, protest rallies and everything in between. But the Fulton County District Attorney Paul Howard announcing that the officer in the Atlanta shooting at the Wendy's Park a lot now has well been charged with many separate issues, including felony murder aggravated assault. Could be a life or even a death penalty case. Anyway, all right, we don't have a lot of time, David. The point you were making on this, and I don't want to get Leo's take. Yeah, the point I was making is the prosecutor went way overboard today in holding this press conference and hosting a victim's lawyer. He has to be neutral. The public depends on it, The integrity system depends on it. These two experts have told you like it is. Mister Ellison is right. Politically, it's a tough political climate. Mister Terrell is an expert in police misconduct. He knows about people running away. He demanded an investigation nineteen ninet nine in the Mitchell case for that. So he's calling it straight for you, but the prosecutor's got to be neutral. What's tough in this case is it's tough to beat forensics in the back. Is a tough, tough way to go with self defense. And you've got his fellow officer turning state's witness in this case. Leo, I agree with thanks David from the comments, and I agree. Look, this was this was a performance. He was arguing. The district attorney was arguing his case before the public. He argues his case in the court of law, and that today was well beyond just laying out the facts, what I think is also very important. That gives a defense attorney now and opportunity. If I'm a defense attorney, I'm loving it. But I'm just saying from an ethical standpoint, as David point out, totally inappropriate. Totally inappropriate. And I guarantee you this case is going to take place six seven months down the line after the elections, totally political motivated in this climate overcharge. Vince Sellison thoughts, yeah, man, they they're allowing mob rule to dictate justice. And you found the brave people in times like these We've seen the old Westerns where lynch mob comes to a jail to take a guy and hang him, and the sheriff stands here by yourself with one gun and back them all up. We don't have that anymore these people, look, you know, but ultimately this is where it goes. Vince. You you gotta convince a jury of twelve beyond a reasonable doubt. Leo David, the lawyers you agree that's a high standard, right, Oh, yes, okay, you want all you needs one? All right? So with that in mind, Vince, you know this this will play out. Justice will be the process are The process is the punishment. They filed these men, they slanted their names, they destroyed their reputation, and so the process is gonna be a grueling one. And they're gonna put thisiness between this and what happened. And they were afraid of the mob playing this something. They know what they do is wrong, but they're cowards and they've been doing this for years in these democratics. I think you're talking to sort of a political argument. I'm looking at the legal side. It is gonna be what it's gonna be. It's gonna be twelve people on a jury that decide. All right, Vince, thank you, David, thank you, Leo, Thank you Leo, and t V tonight. Thank you. Now, getting back to your first question, which was, what about months or so or two or three ago when people were saying, you don't really need to wear a mask. Well, the reason for that is that we were concerned the public health community and many people were saying this, were concerned that it was at a time when personal protective equipment, including the N ninety five masks and the surgical masks, were in very short supply, and we wanted to make sure that the people, namely the healthcare workers who are brave enough to put themselves in a harm way to take care of people who you know, were infected with the coronavirus and the danger of them getting infected, We did not want them to be without the equipment that they needed, all right, Well, not everybody had to have an N ninety five mask. Look, I use this one anecdote over and over and over and over again. Had a conversation with a woman at my local grocery store, and I see the same guys in the shelves, same cashiers every week, and in my particular grocery store, my particular pharmacy, nobody ever got COVID. Everybody wore a mask. I didn't see many people within ninety five masks on. I saw a couple, but not many. So I'm at face shields even but nobody in either store got it now, doctor Fauci. And it's not a criticism. This was evolving. We were all led to We've got over everybody's timeline. The worst decision made by the four governors in New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, and Michigan, and that was they didn't protect the vulnerable. So I'm not blaming doctor Fauci. But you know, and I know some of you are upset that I say, just wear the masks, let's open, let's open safely. And I get it. Maybe I certainly have a different perspective, but it worked, And that anecdote for me is very powerful because at the epicenter of this virus, the guys that were in the stores, seeing the most amount of people every day never got it, not one, and they all wore masks, most wore gloves. So for me, I like to learn from the things that worked and we did well and adjust and change the things that we did wrong. Now with that said, you know, nobody was talking about COVID nineteen at all on the left when the protests which still are going on and a city blocks now taken over, and even some of the politicians. We're out there marching with no social distancing at all, and not everybody at a mask during these protests. But now that Donald Trump is going to have a rally in Oklahoma this weekend, now we're back to talking about how it can't be safe. So my humble suggestion is the President just needs to call it a protest and then I guess they'll be fine with it. But by the way, everybody will have a mask on at the rally. Probably the president will not because he will be completely social socially distant. Anyway, here to weigh in and update us, they're now about nineteen states. I always said it's if not when. I'm sorry, it's when not if that we're going to have hot spots. We've seen them and we've dealt with a number of them very successfully. We bring back our medical a team that conan only one thing, doctor, sir, how are you so I'm doing well? You know, it's interesting we look at the expectations we've all crafted. And just to follow up on what you were saying, the Swedish Minister of Health and the folks who crafted their program to keep the country open always made one really poignant point and there's nothing you can say about it except they're right, which is, yes, we didn't shut down. The rest of the world's mostly shut down. We get the difference, and our country is okay, we're doing. Your country's okay with what you're doing. But one day you're going to have to open. And when you do open, you're basically can be using our model, the Swedish model. So now we're the Swedish model. We're opening up many parts of the country. You're pretty wide open, but we've got to deal with it. The way Sweden dealt with them, how did they get through this without a catastrophe. They doubled down on social distancing, wearing masks. People just acted responsibly and calmly towards each other. Day. By the way, also had a problem in the nursing homes you mentioned the four states that really got hit hard. That's when are we just cannot compromise. I went to a nursing home in New Jersey which is what my home is. A friend of mine actually runs a couple and I wanted to see what it looks like, what are the real issues, and he and all the people may the nursing one was lit. Was livid that for a while they had been forced and up more important to other facilities that really worked up to escape because they didn't know how to actually deal with COVID nineteen. Were forced to take COVID nineteen patients and that led you half to deaths in New Jersey, New York. Being from in nursing homes, you know, I gotta sing your praises, and I know you don't like when I do this, but I'm going to be mean into it anyway. So a close friend of my sisters, a woman that happens to be in her fifties as kids, she had COVID really bad. She was on a ventilator for over six weeks maybe I think six and a half. At one point she had a track put in. I mean it was it was touch and go for a long period. And doctor Oz checked in regularly with the doctors that were working on the case her case, offering advice, suggestions, help, assistance, anything you could do. And she's now home, she's got rehab to go through. You know a lot of a lot of difficulties if you're in a hospital bed nearly two months like that. Um, but you're a rock star and I know many other cases where you did the same. And when I said you aren't sleeping during this you aren't sleeping during this time. Thank you for that keeping Sean Hannity hours because a lot of a lot of the effort was almost giving pep talks to the caregivers because it's it is emotionally incredibly draining when you're desperately trying to financers and there's no textbook. In fact, the reason that I'm so happy today is because of this dex metho zone study that came out of the UK. And just for everyone who I have missed it, this an important deal. Next methods is a simple steroid. It's not the kind you used to build muscles. It's the one we use for allergies and inflammation and lupus by the way, just like hydrog ychloroquine. And they found that they could use it in people who were already having trouble breathing. So you don't use it early in the case the way you make other medications. This is designed for people who already on oxygen, in which case they cut depths by a fifth, or if you had a ventilator, in which as you know, Sean had a very high mortality, especially early on. They cut depths in UK by a third if they gave a simple, easy, inexpensive, accessible drug, and so it's not the standard or care. Twenty four hours later in the UK, most American centers were already experimenting with it. We were trying to give it to patients like our mutual friend and others, just trying to buy time to the bodies of the overreaction to the virus could be mitigated. But this gives us, and other advances like this give us a little bit more breathing room because for the vast majority of people who get sick and don't have risk factors like obesity and hypertension, iabtes the kinds of things that we'd make them called vulnerable for the CDC. But if you're not vulnerable, you don't get them into the hospital. Ninety five percent of hospital admissions are vulnerable. Eighty percent of people who die over the age of sixty five. The average death age is eighty. So we know who's at list, keep them out of the way, protect them, and you can copy swedeen, which is what we're doing now, and and do reasonably well not perfect good data vaccine, but you know, we can get through this if we do that. You know, we've had all these protests going on now for a couple of weeks. We do have states now that are seeing hotspots come up, nineteen or twenty of them. Numbers are not like what happened at the peak of all of this by any stretch, you know, but we're seeing this happen. What will the protests, you know, what will the aftermath of that likely teach us or show us? And not just the protest, then the other the bad part of it which led to rioting are saluting and all other behavior. But there was no social distancing. There were many without masks. And you know, what are we going to learn from all of this? And what do you make of this increase of incidents in some states? Well, you know that nineteen states, as you mentioned, have an increase, but seven have a sixty percent or greater increase over the past week. That's a meaningful things. Just focus on those seven and four of those have increased hospitalization. So that's where the rule issues are. I mean, there's no question. I don't think you can argue that the protests are going to result in more cases. Hopefully they're younger people, so they don't pay a significant price generally, and hopefully because they are outdoors, the virus get spread around, so if they were wearing a mask, it reduces a chance of them having a problem. Outdoor activities are much less problematic because you don't have a small, unventilated room where one person who's got virus coming out of their mouth spreads to everybody else. However, just to be concrete about it, Mary de Blasio today says we're not going to for sure open up New York City to the next stage on Monday, even though we're supposed to, if you know, the numbers are perfect in terms of following guidelines, because he's worried that because of the protests, you might see the increase cases. So even if it doesn't actually do anything, the fact that our leadership is considering it as as a factor that may impact whether we open or not, it's a problem in New Jersey. I mean, I went out with my son to play tennis yesterday, and the parks are still closed, and I'm sort of stunned and thinking about me how it's not possible. I don't understand. There's no defensible medical reason. I don't think to keep a park closed. So in a beautiful June afternoon, kids can't go out and play, except that you're trying to do things just in case something bad is about to hit. And that's where I feel that, even though you know we should be equal across the board, we may be paying a price already, even if we don't see a spike, you know. I look, all of that is true, but again we go to the most vulnerable population, those who have compromised immune systems underlying health conditions. Older people certainly more than younger people. That is pretty much health steady, so that they really have to take the extra precautions. And one of the reasons I know I haven't made much progress on this, but I guess maybe with the President's rally that has taken place, they had almost a million people want to go to this thing, and I think that's room for a couple hundred thousand, so it's gonna be a lot of people. But all the people will be asked to have masks. Everybody's going to go through a temperature check. These are things that you and I discussed about opening stadiums. Everyone's saying, Okay, you know the risk, you're accepting the risks, and you have to abide by the guidelines they're putting out there. What are your thoughts? Well, I don't I don't think it's wise to get people to expose themselves to potential infected individuals. You know, certainly be outdoors to the best you can, to stay with everybody else. And for sure, if you're one of the folks who has a risk factor that makes you vulnerable, if you overweight, if you're hypertensive, if you're diabetic, you've got chronic lung issues, you should not attend the rally because God forbid, someone that you walk by, and it's not necessarily the person that needs you're standing next to. It could be someone you know getting into the portal tip wherever this place the thing is going to be held, could invect you and you might have to be getting infection there, but you're not going to know it. Here's the question, Sean. Five days later, you wake up and you got a little sore throat. I mean, you have COVID nineteen or not. Right, You're gonna be in your mind thinking maybe I have COVID nineteen. Now you're destroying quality of life for people and getting folks panicked, and when it they're appropriately socially distancing, they don't. The thing that gives you the most peace of mind is I do everything I can, and I'm out as bad as you are. I mentioned I was a nursing home. I went to the Cash Valley and Utah last week with a percentative that meat processing facility where they had, you know, hundreds of people who got infect That's what I understand what the issues are. So but I'm really careful. So when I get up in the morning with a sore throat, I'm not thinking COVID nineteen. I'm thinking I got a sore throat. And I think these are subtle issues. But why introduced risk? But you don't need to that's the big question. No, I think you look, you're given everybody good advice, do you see it? But potential for outdoor stadiums to open and baseball and football? And what are your feelings on the NFL? I know the US Open said they're gonna play, but there'll be nobody at the US Open. Well, I have a studio audience, as you know, of a couple hundred people, and I'm not going to be allowed to have audience members there. And I actually don't want to have audience members. I sent them home way before the city shut down for fear that. Imagine a fan of mine traveling all the way from wherever they came in the country to be in my audience and then I get sick. I mean, I think I had the opportunity to at least signal what I thought was appropriate for them to keep my people who are closest to me safe, And I think that's what most teams are going to be thinking. Do I want my fans worried that they don't actually get sick worried about this and they have a question I'm asking myself, was how impactful is it? When I talk to folks to own stadiums, and I've been called by different leagues, they say, you know, if I can put half the people in the stadium, does that really help me? They don't make the same kind of noise. It's probably not going to even be a half it's expensive to open up. I really get that much out of it. Or should it just be smart and to safe and make sure no one gets sick. We're not. We're talking about holding our breath for maybe six months. We are gonna have vaccines by the beginning part of twenty twenty one, and we should play our teams, play our events. A lot of the revenue for the leagues, and everyone knows comes from TV, radio and other venues. At least it's something that gives us all joy to watch our favorite players performed well. Then it becomes a math equation for the league's though, because they count on that money too. They'd be able to play the pay the players, and it gets complicated, and that's why the Major League Baseballs are fighting. But is that again? I'm just thinking long term. They know they're masically baseballs one hundred, one hundred and twenty thirty years old. I'm thinking that if they could just play and do this for kindness of the country and not have to worry about the distraction of this whether someone got sick. What happens the first time someone goes home and says, you know, I got COVID nineteen from the game you can't prove he's right, camp proves wrong. Yeah, we're stocking, all right, Quick break more with doctor Oz, our medical A team. Next, quick break right back. We'll continue, all right, as we continue with our medical A team and doctor Oz. Uh boy, it's been a rough ride. I'll tell you. It's you know, it's it's just one thing after another. It seems keep just keeps, you know, hitting. It's hard, but we'll get through it. We're Americans. We have the best medical scientists and researcher. Yeah, real quick, because I gotta go. I got bits between the new medications, overall increased care, and the vaccine, we are ahead of this. We don't have that much further to go, and I don't think we're gonna have to shut down again with what we're doing now. If we all behave ourselves, it's all right. That's good news, all right, doctor Oz, thanks so much for being with us. Eight hundred and nine four one sean, all right, simple man, Leonard Skinner. They can only be one thing, and that thing means all things Bill O'Reilly and all things bill O'Reilly or at bill O'Reilly dot com. Let me ask you a question. The world This has not been an easy here, mister O'Reilly. That's a simple observation from a fellow simple man. And I'm serious. I mean, look, we've had the worst pandemic since nineteen seventeen and eighteen as a country that's been rough. Then obviously what happened to mister Floyd never should have happened. That's been rough. The aftermath of that, you know, they're genuine universal outrage. I don't know anybody except crazy keyboard warriors in their basement and their underwear, you know, saying otherwise. And on top of that, then you got the lawlessness, and then the looters and the rioters. Eight hundred plus cops now injured, couple have died, one paralyzed for life. We understand in Vegas burning down police precincts, taking over city blocks in Seattle, and we have an election in one hundred and thirty nine days. Um, So, as you know, we're both simple man. Now, I'm glad I could get burned you by the way over to the show. I just why did I open myself up? I am so imla now that why did I do this? Me? So my simple question is why isn't anybody trying to solve the problem, the problem of injustice or income inequality. Why isn't anyone trying to solve that. Burning down a Wendy's. Is that solve it? I don't think so. So let me give you a real simple man scenario, something that happened this week. You know Brad Pitt, right, I don't know, and I don't know him personally. I know him as the actor I know, you know a lot of brilliant in that Tarantino Hollywood movie. So Jennifer Anderson is his former white you know our friends. So each of them announces through their PR people who they pay an enormous amount of money, that they're going to donate a million dollars each to an antique cop organization, an anti police organization. Okay, and I say to myself, what are you doing? If you're going to donate a million dollars, why don't you donate it to my Brother's Keeper, a mentoring organization that I worked with President Obama on? Why not give it to Best Friends Foundation, another mentoring organization in DC, or as I did yesterday Hannity, donate to Nassau County Big Brothers and Big Sisters in a mentoring capacity. I'll, by the way, I'll match your donation. Excellent, excellent. And I like big brothers and big sisters. I've never been a part of that organizations. I had to say. I had three kids and I stayed with them their whole into adulthood. But but it's a big donation, hanniy So, I mean, you know, pretty fast on the trigger there, But I'm holding you to it. But Mike, but you're getting my point. Why wouldn't you do good the money two organizations that are lifting people out of poverty and out of hatred into a system where they can have a terrific life like you have and I have, and Coland Powell has, and Ben Carson has and Barack Obama has. So, by the way, the only one thing that I gotta say is every simple guy you know drops the name of a former president and says, oh, yeah, well, I work with President Obama on this charity. Maybe I'm not as simple after all, Bill never happened to me. But Obama and I had common ground on this on this issue. What hating, Hannity, I know, I got it. I believe that I am a simple man, and I'm a former high school teacher, and I know that mentoring poor children with lousy parents or non existent parents is the only way to get these kids in a position seed And therefore any group that does this, Brad Pitt and Jennifer Aniston, you want to support, You don't want to support people who hate the police. The pills are good, look, I say, and I am watching. Now. It's to these police officers, all eight hundred thousand of them, to demonize them the way they're being demonized. It's not got to end. It's wrong, Bill over eight hundred cops now, a number of dead, eight hundred hurt, bottles, rocks, bricks, molotov cocktails, precincts burned to the ground, and precincts taken over by anarchists. Now, you know, here's the position that the president is in Illinois, New York, all these all these blue states that run into the ground for decades now and neglected by Democratic governors and mayors. They don't get the job done. Same thing. You know this The mayor the governor in Washington are just pathetic. I mean, this is oh no, it's it's like the Summer of Love. The autonomous zone, the chad zone, the chop zone, the spaghetti pot, lug zone, a festive atmosphere. You know, they all use the same words, and it's not that way. And there are business owners in there that are not being protected, and there are you know, there's a police precinct being run by the anarchists that took it over and chase the cops out, won't let them back in. And I guess they're negotiating they give back part of the city, but keep this part of the city. Okay, So we're watching all of this unfold. The president keeps offering help, they can keep saying no. Now, I think that for the president there is a bit of a trap because if the president goes in and God forbid, something happens in the process of taking back law and order, which they should do in the state level. President's offering all the help they want, and something happened. Trump did that, and so unless it gets to that moment, and we'll know in that moment comes My attitude is let Washington deal with Washington's problems. Let's Seattle deal with Seattle's problems. That they elected these guys, let them fix it. Well, I had a simple solution last night. I'm Bill O'Reilly dot com that I think Donald Trump should consider, and that is to send about one hundred US marshals to Seattle to guarantee that anyone trapped in this anarchy zone has the ability to get out and in when they want it. Well, can I just answer that one point? Are they You're not army, they're marshals. Every person apparently that wants to leave, come and go. If you're a resident there, that that that freedom does still exist. Although you notice they built a wall. I thought walls were bad. Then you need basically know that we really don't know the pressure and the intimidation. Well, we have reporters and spies in there. I have Ammy Harrowitz in there for a spy in there for a day, all right, But there's nothing wrong with sending US marshalls a federal president to observe the situation. You don't want to wake U, you don't want a Ruby Ridge, I don't want any of that. But I think that President Trump has got to run and he can start this in August. I wouldn't do it now. You don't want to inflame now, but he's got to run on Is this the kind of country you want? And then show pictures of Seattle. Here's the problem. Let's let's say all hell breaks loose. Bill. By the way, we've seen all hell break loose in recent days, and it's not pretty. And let's say that they throw rocks, bottles, bricks at Molotov cocktails. Then the hundred is going to become a thousand to two thousand, and there's no way that's ever gonna end. It's never gonna look good. The optics will be terrible, and then you got the possibility of a worst case scenario. Now it may come to that, but from my perspective, that's the that's the governor of Washington's job, in the mayor's job. The President keeps offering the help. He says, I'll help you, you can run it. I'll give you the backup, the support that you need when you're ready. They don't want any help, Bill, And they elected these guys. I guess that's what they want out in liberal land, La La land. Out there, they want, you know, anarchists to take over city streets. I have considered your point of view, and you rejected on TV and radio. I know I did. I'm not I'm not mocking you. I thought that it a lot. Yeah. I think the American people at this point are looking for leadership. I think if the President got on and said I'm gonna send in hundred marshals to make sure that anyone who feels threatened or anybody's rights who are being violated in the anarchy zone have to support, I think that would do them a lot of good. You don't go in with tanks or gas or anything like that. You just create a presence that shows leadership. And that's what I will. I'm not where you are. Probably that is probably going to happen next. If I had to give my best guess, I don't have any insider information. I think that is sober thought, well thought out. And but you have another problem though, and that is the mayor doesn't want them. The governor doesn't want them, the anarchists don't. Well, I got it. Now here's the all right. So the bottles get thrown, the Molotov cocktails get thrown, the bricks and rocks get thrown. It's gonna be. You can't send a hundred guys in without you know, five thousand behind them. If anybody does that, them as withdraw. All right. Video is taken of course, Um, they don't confront. They just withdraw and then the people. And it's in a country. See who the anarchists really are. Look based on all of the reporting, I'm like you, I'm paying very close attention the residents. Now we have one resident, Shelby Telcott at the at the Daily Caller interviewed a business owner. You're not too happy, and I would imagine that there's probably legal liability for the city and for the state, and that will work itself out through the courts. I think there's going to come a moment for your idea. I'm not quite there yet. It's well thought out. I appreciate it, but it also is predicated on one assumption. I think that you think that the people in the zone will allow it. I have a feeling that it has the potential to be a lit fuse. Do you know the city of Seattle, Yeah, I know, you've been there, of course, I have been there many time. Okay, so the six block area that they are occupying does comprise some residences and a lot of businesses. All right. My contention is that many, perhaps most, who are trapped there, don't want to be trapped there, correct, But they were allowed to get in and out. And I'm only giving you straight reporting that I have. And if we're in your neighborhood or my neighborhood, had any we wouldn't be putting it. We wouldn't be putting up with it. Putting up with it. I only can say, we wouldn't be living in Seattle, Bill, we wouldn't be welcome in Seattle. And by the way, we're not really welcome in New York either. Well, New York is another. I mean, what happened in Saint Patrick's Cathedral. I don't know how much time we have, but the district Attorney cy Vans, not prosecuting the people who desecrated the cathedral, said that is probably the worst thing I've ever seen. All Right, let's reverse to us real quick, because we don't have a lot of time. Let's say that the people that took over and are running the autonomous Zone or some conservative or radical right wing group as they call it, these are left wingers. What if it was that, what would happen now, Well, Insley would have the National guarding there exactly exactly. Well, everybody knows that. Everybody knows who Insley is. I mean, that's what I mean that in this next election, people's got to choose what kind of country you want. It's really stark. Now, you may not like Trump, but do you want Insley? Is that what you want? You know what I do in this book, and I'm going to send you an early copy, special Father's Day first edition, specially bound copies. Hannity dot Com. Bill, I'll give you yours for free. I give the history of how this great country is founded. I give a history of radicalism in this country. I give the complete twenty twenty democratic agenda. I go through socialism and their history of failure. I go through what is at stake between what they want on the left and what the radical party they've become, and all of Donald Trump's views and successes that he's had in his first term. I google through the the hoax that they put us through with Russia, the phony impeachment, trying to literally undo an election. And I go through, and that's why it's lived Free or die America in the world on the brink, Bill, this is this is not for me a game. I believe this tipping point. You promised that I could interview you about this book. You remember that I do very I don't know, as I drinking that day and I don't remember I really know, of course. Down all right, but I'm telling you Bill one hundred and thirty nine days, Bill, this great Republic is hanging in the balance. The choice cannot be anymore clear. I've said that and passed elections. It's nothing compared to this one. All right, Bill O'Reilly dot com. Thank you, Bill O'Riley. We'll continue. Kiss words are meaningless. He is lying to you, He is lying to himself. He is lying to the American people in Congress and the next President of the United States need to stand up to the billions and billions of dollars in Silicon Valley and hold these people, hold these billionaires accountable for their lies and for their undermining of American democracy. All right, News Roundup and Information Overload Hour, Joseph Scarborough going nuts against Mark Zuckerberg and Google and all the interesting details that have emerged surrounding this whole issue, and report that in fact, Google maybe financially blacklisting zero heads the Federalist site. Google to ban ads on the Federalist after NBC News raises concerns about the George Floyd protest well works for NBC News. They're looking to they're they're looking for them to basically censor content that they don't like or agree with. It's plenty of things I read about me every single day, Linda, A lot of stuff about me. I don't particularly like a lot of it's lying, but definitely don't agree with it. If you look. The bar is what the bar is? You know, Congress shall make no law as it relates to freedom of speech. Now we have libel laws, by the way, I like to see where the suit ultimately goes with our friend Lynn would probably you know him and Charles Harder by far, you know, standouts in terms of libel law Malice Times v. Sullivan Landmark case, which is, you know, it's a very high bar. If you're a public figure, they can pretty much say anything they want about you, just the way it is now. So it's interesting that it's NBC News, you know, apparently pushing according to foxnews dot Com article that they're pushing and now facing intense backlash for influencing Google to punish these two conservative news sites. Now we can also go through all the conspiracy theories of fake news CNN, right, we could do that and we can go through all the wrong reporting on Russia. You know what about those lies that damage this country immeasurable damage. Look what they put this country through. They ever admit they're wrong. No, Look at what they did to one kid, Nicolas Sandman. And they're paying that case. Because Nicolas sam Man, he's not a public figure, the bar is much lower. The lies that were told about this kid, the smears and the slander, all of that involved. I mean, it is like unbelievable anyway, So it's it's interesting now we dealt with this a long time. Well, it wasn't that long ago. It was May twenty eighth, I guess we dealt with it. And about a month ago and the President signed an executive order and he had Bill Barr, the Attorney General, in there. And as it relates to the executive order, fighting back against Silicon Valley with the President and censorship of conservatives, this is something now conservatives have had to deal with for a very long period of time. This is something conservatives deal with all the time as a matter of fact. And you know, on top of everything else, every single word we utter is being recorded in the hopes that one day that you know, some conservative will say one thing they don't like, they don't agree with, and instead of just letting the general public go out there and make their own decisions because people, I can't force people to listen. I want you to listen. I'm gonna try and do the best show I can every day, so you'll listen. I'm gonna put on the best TV show I possibly can so you will listen and watch. But I can't make anybody. You know, that's freedom. You have the freedom to choose. We have more choices now than ever. Netflix, You've got Hulu, you got Amazon, Prime, Prime Video, you got it all, Prime Movie, Prime Prime, this, that and everything. And you have all the social media content providers as well. YouTube. If you have a smart TV, you want to watch something on YouTube, you put it on your TV. It's that's simple. But there is a very important legal component to this, and that is the Communications Decency Act, and the Order interprets that key provision as not providing special protections for Silicon Valley titans like Facebook and Twitter and Google and the rest of them that are engaged in censorship. If you're just a pure content provider, you are protected in terms of libel. If in fact, somebody were to say something offensive that could in fact be interpreted as libel. In other words, you have that protection by your government. They have that protection. Now, if you're going to become an editor and then editorially, then then then every all bets are off at that point. You know what, if you're not going to be a pure content provider and let people post freely, well then and if you don't become an editor, okay, you won't have the liability. Once you become an editor, well then that liability that you have, the protections are gone. And by the way, this first happened with Twitter when they took the unprecedented, unprecedented steps of fact checking the president's tweets and now they're deleting this conservative emails account, and it goes on and on and on. You had a Twitter employee linking to the platform the fact checking came from where the Washington Post they hate the president, fake news, CNN, they hate the president. You know. So you know, I actually put this on TV and on radio. I tweeted it out to at Jack or we said on air, at Jack, that's your fact checker, the Washington Post, fake news, CNN? Does that? Are they people that should have a voice in deciding how to target a president's Twitter page. Well, now you're no longer just a content provider because you're deciding what's on there. There's a lot of stuff I don't like that I see about me on social media. Guess what, too bad. I believe in freedom. I believe in freedom of speech, liberty, and people say lies about me too. Not much I can do about it now when people are warned and people are given the truth. New York Toilet Paper Times is the case in point. There's going to be a landmark case, Sarah Palin. Remember the whole thing targeted districts and what they said at the time. Yeah, that hopefully we'll go to trial, and I want to see what where that turns out. I am paying very close attention to all of that. So if you're going to take the role of fact checking, then you also take on the liability and the responsibility. And you may not want to use fake news CNN and MSDNC in the New York Toilet Paper Times and Washington Posts as your fact checkers because they have agendas. At Jack should know this. We met at Jack dude. You ever, by the way, talk to him, Linda, Ah, he seems to be unavailable, you know though, so your connection is over. I wouldn't say that it's over. I would just say that we're going through an interesting phase in our relationship. But it's But remember NBC now, and this is what I have. But Joe Scarborough is asking here is for them to censor speech he doesn't like. Now, to me, it's a little bit of a joke. I have nothing against Joe Scarborough. He can say whatever he wants. It's not the point. But if you're gonna edit people's opinions, you no longer get the liability protection that I've been talking about here, the Decency Act protection, the Communications Decency Act protection, because now you're an editor. Now you are deciding you're not just a content provider, or you're not just a place where you allow people to speak freely. You're editing that speech. Okay, that means that's a whole different ballgame, and the liability is real by the way, I eviscerate, Oh it Live free or die, Linda, that whole chapter. I think it's what chapter seven. The medium mob enemy of the people, they hate Trump media mob. That's chapter seven. I eviscerate them. I can't wait for August fourth. We're gonna get out on the road to again as well. We're gonna have some fun with this. But more importantly, you know what, the mob deserves everything I'm going to I do throw at them because they are so irresponsible, they're so reckless. They tell so many lies, they smear so many people. There's such such an agenda driven. It's a fourth estate, and they abuse their power, frankly, with no accountability, no responsibility. You know what, you know, good thing, Nicolas Sandman. I can't wait to see this kid become a billionaire. And that's what's gonna happen. But they won't disclose how much of we out a private settlement. That's fine, to agree to a private settlement. You're gonna pay through the nose. Great good for Nicholas Sandman. He deserved it. He deserves so much better. And by the way, Father's Day is this Sunday. If you want to get a specially bound first edition copy Live for Your Die America and the world on the brink, Live for Your America dies in Latin for Dad, print out a beautiful gift certificate. He gets gets it first. Week delivery and especially bound edition first edition copy Hannity dot com for that Amazon dot com if you just want to order it early and get a good discount. All right, let's go to our phones here. Let's say hi to Cheryl and Virginia. Cheryl, Hi, how are you glad you called? Hi? Sean? How are you so good to talk to you? It's good to talk to you. What's going on? Thank you? Yes? My first question is why is in the Seattle FBI getting involved shutting down CHAZ when they've got armed BLM and ANTIFA members there blocking entrance into their zone. And second, can the citizens of Seattle sue the mayor and other city officials for obstructing access and emergency services to that area? I absolutely if I was a homeowner, was a store owner, and my business was under siege and with reckless disregard for the law, they did not uphold the oaths of their office and their responsibility to the citizenry. I absolutely see a case there where they are financially, legally liable and responsible. I'd loved and by the way, that's going to happen. And by the way, the taxpayers of Washington, taxpayers in Seattle Yeah, they're going to be the ones that end up paying whatever the settlement is. And depending on how much insurance they have, we'll see what that all comes down to. How would you feel if it was your business, right, I'd sue I would too. I can't blame people FBI And what about FBI involvement? Can they not get involved? Yes, the President has full constitutional authority to go in under the Insurrection Act of eighteen oh seven. He can go in, he can clean it up, and he can get it done. But you know what, I don't think he should. I mean, the president keeps offering, Hell, it's the governor's job. It's the mayor's job. The mayor's eating and inventing these the anarchists. The mayor's saying something that's not true, that it's one big street festival, that it is a summer of love, and in the autonomous chop Zone, chaz whatever they want to call it, on any given day, in spaghetti pot luck dinners. And you know what, it's funny because fake news CNN, M conspiracy tv MSDNC reporting inside the autonomy autonomous zone, and while they're inside there, they're saying, oh no, it's like a festival atmosphere using the same words as they always do. Then no originality whatsoever. It's one big liberal socialist talking point. And while they're saying it, the people inside the zone and say, no, it's not this isn't a festival. It's hilarious. They're getting beaten down, you know, right on live television. I showed some of that last night. It's hilarious actually. Anyway, thanks Cheryl, Yeah, appreciate it. Say hi to Scott in New Jersey. Scott, you're on the Sean Hannity Show. Hey, Sean, how you doing a quick question? I was watching the TV this morning and I'm one of your competitors channels. They were talking to the CEO of General Motors Corporation and she was talking about basically creating all these inclusivity and diversity boards and all this stuff. Right, And a lot of these companies are coming out and saying this, right, so civil rights movement happened almost sixty years ago, right, shouldn't the boards and the CEO is the executives like they're taking a reactive approach, is what it sounds like. Shouldn't they be stripping and cleaning all these boards out and all these CEOs that are taking a reactive approach because these solutions and these problems should have been solved twenty or thirty years ago. So like that's my big question, Like what are they going to do about that? And how are these executives taking such a reactive approach? Is something that should have been in their bylaws and corporate policies years ago. Look, every corporation, it's easy for us, I would argue, you know, to say they should be focused on this, this, this, and this. I don't care what the business is. You're usually everybody I know in business gulfs water, if that makes sense. I'm gulden Water every day, all days, a fire hose in my throat, put you know, trying to get all the information, news, information shows together, and you know, you just don't usually have the time to get to a lot of these other things. And you know, I've been blessed because I've hired so many good people around me, and that makes a big difference. And I always let everybody do their job. I'm not a micromanager type of boss. And you know, but in the end, when sometimes problems, you know, or once they're illuminated, once they've become a problem, then you have to give the attention that is due to it. What should people be more proactive at times on a lot of issues? Absolutely, quality controls, safety issues, personnel matters. All of this stuff has to be dealt with. It's complicated, and you have all the government regulations, and you have all the accounting and taxation that you got to deal with in any business. It's you know, I'm not disagreeing. You got to focus on people too, and the people that work for you and your customer, and do it simultaneously, and do it under that an environment which is also more competitive in a lot of industries than ever before. It's it's it's not an easy answer, but we can get it right. You always want to become more perfect. That's how I love a more perfect union for example. All right, that's gonna wrap things up for today. We've got a lot of news to cover. By the way, the President will be on tonight on Hannity nine Eastern on the Fox News Channel. President Trump saying absolutely Kaepernick, if he can play in the NFL, should be playing in the NFL. That surprised people will have the charges in the Atlanta case. Lindsay Graham, Dan Bongino, Horaldo, Leo and Larry and President Trump also all coming up Hannity exclusively tonight nine Eastern Box News see you tonight back here tomorrow, As always say, DVR, thanks for being with us,