The Sean Hannity ShowThis "Best of Hannity" sits down with former Vice President Mike Pence to discuss Middle East peace and his thoughts on just how dangerous China is to US sovereignty.
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Right our two Sean Hannity Show told free It's eight hundred and ninety four to one, Shawn. If you want to be a part of the program, joining us now. Former Vice president a friend of the program, Mike Pence is back with us, sir. How are you?
I'm great, Sean, great to be back on. Thanks.
We appreciate it. As always. You know I've been spending a lot of time talking about two issues, and I really want to go into depth on these two issues with you if I can. I'm looking at the economy. It's a mess. We have given up the fight on energy independence and we're now even importing energy oil from from Venezuela, which is insane to me. We see what's happening where you know, people can't afford to putting enough food on their table. Seventy percent of Americans are suffering because of Biden economic and energy policies. And then I'm watching an holy alliance emerge right before my eyes. I call it a new access of evil, and that is Russia, China and Iran. And they're picking off some of our former allies like Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Egypt and others were discovering they're picking sides, and they're picking China to be the dominant force or superpower in the world. And we have a president missing in action. So I'll throw it out there, we get started. Whichever topic you want to start with is fine with me. But I've never been this afraid from my country as I am right now.
Well, Sean, look, this country's in a lot of trouble, and it's because President Joe Biden has weakened America at home and abroad. But not surprisingly you put your finger on just what I was talking about. I gave a speech at an energy conference a couple of days ago in California at the Nixon Library, and we talked about the economy, we talked about foreign policy. We began with the Biden administration's war on energy, literally from day one, shutting down the Keystone and Dakota Pipeline, shutting down the Alaska National Wildlife Region, I mean, suppressing additional leases and exploration not only caused gasoline prices to go through the roof, but as you know, it reversed all the progress we made under the Trump Pens administration, where we became a net exporter of energy, we achieved energy independence for the first time in seventy years. Everything proceeded out of that. The gusher of spending in Washington, DC lit off inflation. But I mean to tell you, the fact that President Biden had to go hat in hand overseas to Saudi Arabia and Opek to beg them to pump more oil and they turned him down just shows you what happens when you have week leadership at home, when you have policies that are hamstringing American energy in the American economy, it weakens us not only not only here, not only harming families and the budgets, but it weakens America's place in the world. But it just I'm not surprised you started right where it all begins. That speech I gave is up on YouTube now about the central issue here is the war on energy, and it's one of the reasons in the next year and a half, we've got to win. We've got to win the Senate, we've got to win wider margins in the House, and we've got to get back to energy independence and have a new Republican president that will lead us back to where we were in the Trump Pens years.
Do you agree with my analysis that China has created this alliance with Russia and Iran the new access of evil? And do you agree with my analysis that the Saudis have chosen sides now and they've decided to bet on China being the world's loan superpower. And immediately after China broke it a deal between the Saudis and ran And now that they're doing it with Syria. What an opek do? They responded by cutting down production by a million three barrels a day. Was that were those directions coming straight from China?
To me?
It looks like it.
Well, I think.
Look, I'd say this very respectfully. I think you might be given China too much credit. They're just operating in a vacuum of American leadership.
But aren't they aren't they trying to fill that void? That's what I'm asking, Well.
Thousand percent right. But what I'm saying is is what's changed under the Biden administration is we were leading on the world stage for all. Remember all the talk in twenty sixteen that America knew isolationism and America was going to pull in the shutters. No, that isn't what America first meant. America first meant that we were going to engage the world, But we were going to engage the world in a way to put America's interest in American workers and Americans security first. But engaging the wider Arab world, supporting Israel as never before actually resulted in the first peace agreement in twenty five years in the Abraham of course, But since this administration came in and started begging Iran to come back to the table, and the Ran nuclear deal capitulated long before the first shot was fired in Ukraine. They capitulated to Russia on nord Stream two. They've been projecting weakness on the world stage, most notably the disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan. It's a vacuum of American leadership. And you're absolutely right that, whether it's the recent deal that China negotiated between Iran and Saudi Arabia, China is attempting to step forward and fill that void that was once filled with strong American leadership.
And these are number one, number two, and number three geopolitical foes. And I really believe that Joe Biden has sent abdicated his role as the leader of the free world and frankly the sole superpower of the world. And I think China's trying to fill it. I think a lot of it is related to energy. You know, economically, think about this. Is it not good for American national security to be energy independent? Is it not good to create high paying career jobs in the energy sector. Is it not good that America has you know, it's a lifeblood of the world's economy, and America has cheap energy. Would it not be good if we became energy dominant and we have all these customers, allies of ours in Western and Europe, and provide them with all of their energy needs. We'd be an energy rich nation, wouldn't we.
Well, it's it's it's not good for everybody except environmental extremes. Long for these, regardless of the impact on the United States and on working families. And and that's just the hard fact. Your millions of listeners know that.
I mean that.
I know the Biden administration tried to blame high gas prices last year on the war in Ukraine, but gasoline prices were up fifty percent before the Russian invasion in Ukraine even began. So this is a result not of the war in Ukraine, but the war on energy. And the American people.
See through it.
It's like this latest thing with the EPA and the Biden administration announcing their new regulations about trying to drive the American people into electric cars. As I said, I was in California, you got Gavin Newsom out there that this administration has praised because he essentially wants to end the sale of gasoline powered cars by twenty thirty in California. And you know who the big winner is on that Schina. I don't have to tell you, Sean, but it's China. China makes most of the batteries that go in these electric vehicles, and so this administry is driving forward. They're driving us into these sets new, more expensive vehicles when you instead of letting the American people choose to drive what they want to try. The big winner, of course, it's not only radical environmentalists.
But China.
Let me ask you about the twenty twenty election in this sense, and I believe elections are about the future. But we're learning a lot. We now know that Mike Burrell gave testimony that in fact, it was Tony Blinken, the Secretary of State, that initiated that letter of fifty one former Intel officials that before the election in twenty twenty, saying that the Hunter Biden laptop had all the markings of foreign interference and it didn't look credible to any of them. Fifty one top former Intel people, Tony Blincoln led that effort. They had no evidence at all whatsoever to back that up. We now know, oh that the laptop was very real, and that the FBI had it in their possession in December of twenty nineteen. You know, is that a kind of election in appearance.
Well, look in my recent memoir, as you know, I said that the suppression of the Hunter laptop story by major arteries of the legacy media and by big tech, and now we know this collaboration of former intelligence officials. It was a disgrace that that information was denied to the American people. And it would be a year and a half later that these major arteries of the media said, oh, oh, by the way, the Hunter laptop was real, and therefore all the information that made it into the public domain exclusively through the New York Post was true, and the American people deserve to know that going into the election.
But here's the where it gets worse, though, because they quick break more with former Vice President Mike Pence. On the other side, is the former vice president thinking of running for president? Wilask him, Great Hannity tonight, nine eastern on Fox. Hope you'll join us, all right, we continue with former Vice President Mike Pence's with us today. The FBI had a copy in December twenty nineteen, but they also knew that Rudy Giuliani, who was the President's attorney at the time, had a copy and that it would likely leak. But we now have since learned that in the months and leading up to the twenty twenty election, that FBI officials were meeting weekly with big tech companies and warning them that they may be targeted for misinformation campaigns, And one person in particular, testifying in a case in Missouri under then Attorney General Eric Schmidt now Senator Schmidt, literally said Joel Roth is his name? The former integrity site had at Twitter that in fact, they warned that the misinformation might be about Joe Biden or Hunter Biden. Now the FBI had the laptop. How long would it take the FBI to authenticate that. I don't think very long.
Well, it would. It would have taken them less time than for Joe Biden to ask Hunter, did you leave your laptop at the pawnshop?
Exactly.
In fact, the fact that Joe Biden in the national debate cites a letter by some fifty former intelligence officials who now we know all of them that have gone public have said, we had no access to any information about it. We just we signed a letter believing it sounded like.
But Tony Blinken led up the efforts and did Tony Blinkin get rewarded by being secretary as they well.
Thank you and thanks for what you did on television last night in branches to the country. Look, I have great confidence in our Republican majority that they're going to put daylight on this thing. But it's I just I'm I have to tell you one of the great one of the greatest injustices in American politics that Joe Biden was standing at the podium, standing at the podium in that presidential debate, uh and he recited a letter saying that it was the laptop story was likely Russian disinformation. When Sean, why wouldn't you just ask your son?
By the way, I have that I have that moment, we were running out of time. So not only I'll play it, but you're one hundred percent right in what you're saying. I can't let you go and not talk about your future. By the way, I want people to know something about Mike Pence. You know, there was a couple of negative news stories about me. I won't get into the details at all, but anyway, you're the vice president of the United States, and you pick up a phone and you call me and you say, I'm just thinking about your praying for you, and I hope you're okay, and I I was shocked at your level of kindness. It meant a lot to me.
Thank you well.
You mean a lot to our family, You mean a lot to an awful lot of people. Shots God bless you well. Appreciate so much, very kind.
Let's talk about your future. I know you're thinking about it a run potentially for the presidency. That would mean you would be running against your former partner. Where are you in that process?
Well, you know, we're getting a lot of encouragement from around the country. I'll be back in Iowa tomorrow for a Faith in Freedom gathering. I'll be in Georgia speaking at a wonderful church in one of your favorite cities in the country, back in Atlanta. Then we're going to continue to travel and listen and learn, and I just I'll end where I began this conversation. I think the country's in a lot of trouble, and I think the American people long to get back to the policies that we were advancing under the Trump Pens administration, and we're going to continue to work out as a family exactly what role we'd play in that. But I promise when the time comes that we're ready to make some announcement, I'll make it. I'll make it right on Sean Hannity's show.
Well, we appreciate it, We really do. The four years of your administration with President Trump were amazing for this country, and we need to get back to that. We need peace through strength. We need a president that is respected worldwide. We need an economy that lifts people up, and we need energy independence desperately, and we need our borders under control. They're not all of this is happening, and it's never been this bad to me.
Well, we did it before, and I know the American people can do it again. And just couldn't be more grateful for your voice.
All Right, Former Vice President Mike Pence, we appreciate you being with us. Eight hundred and ninety four one, Shawn our number. You want to be a part of the program, Your calls comments coming up straight ahead. You are listening to the best of the Sean Hannity Show. Yeah, Joseph, Independence and liberty every weekday, right, here on the Sean Hannity Show. I gotta admit there's a certain amount of kind of joy. It's to me, it's amusing. It's not overly funny, but being in this business, it's kind of amusing. Fake news CNN is in a state of utter, complete chaos, this pandemonium that is broken out there because of this Trump town hall and the fact that they allowed Donald Trump to be on the air, by the way, which gave them the highest ratings, not Fox rate like ratings, but gave them the highest ratings they'd seen in a long long time. And then after the show, then the every single left wing you know, so called journalist that is really a talk show host they just lie about it was out there just just saying everything they could say about Donald Trump anyway. But they did have one person on there that was defending President Trump and ending freedom of speech and defriending defending what a town hall should be, and that was Congressman Byron Donald's of the great State of Florida. Uh, here's him fighting back against you know, it's like ten on one.
First of all, town halls are for the voters, not for the press, not for the person who's the moderator Caitlyn spent more time interjecting her own viewpoints or her own views on a situation. Those are actually, now, are you well, are you guys not going to interject your hand here?
Do I get a chance to speak if you're Those were fasts.
The town hall is for the president to speak to the voters of New Hampshire, not for this back and forth in the Tredia.
Who Well, obviously they think it's their job to sit there and fact check every single thing. However, there were issues involving the twenty twenty election. For example, states that had laws that said partisan observers get to watch the vote count up close and personal. Uh, those laws, there was no accommodations made for those laws, so they ignored them. The constitution in the state of Pennsylvania, the Commonwealth there is very clear about voting by mail. They get very very few and very restrictive reasons why people can vote by by mail. Now, the legislature got cute and rather than go through the arduous task of a constitutional amendment, they decided to pass legislation. But that would have had any court with any reason taking it up, that would be deemed unconstitutional. That's Constitution. One on one, I had similar issues. You had Supreme Court decision. You had the Chief Justice in Wisconsin with a stinging rebuke of three four case about how the laws of Wisconsin will be in you know, absolutely ignored in that state. Now we have more recently information about the FBI putting their cinder blocks on the scales by by telling big tech companies that they're likely going to be victims of misinformation campaigns. And according to yol Roth, the form Integrity site had at Twitter, he said, yeah, these misinformation campaign might be about Joe and Hunter Biden. Why is the FBI meeting and pre bunking any story involving Joe and Hunter Biden in the months leading up to the twenty twenty election, meeting weekly with big tech companies. That doesn't make any sense. Then we learned that the fifty one former Intel officials were being apparently recruited by active CIA officials to sign on to that document that everybody knew was false. Well no, but well actually that nobody knew anything about and they just signed on to it because they wanted to give quote Trump, I'm sorry, Biden a talking point against Trump. So there are issues that need to be addressed, if we care about integrity and our elections, if we want confidence in our results. Some things that other people said, I thought it was a little nutty, And if I wasn't making that argument, that means I didn't agree with it, and nobody proved it to me. But those are the arguments I made then and I stand by today anyway. Byron Donald's from Florida's here with us, How are you, sir?
Doing good? Sean? Thanks for having me on.
But there is a broad, sweeping generalization about like these were the perfect elections in twenty twenty. I mentioned the things that stand out to me. Do you agree with my point of view on those issues?
No? I do. I agree with you completely. I think you're right. And you know, when I was doing the post panel town hall stuff at CNN and I brought up Mark Elias suing and all these different jurisdictions to get election procedures changed, nobody combat at what I said. You know, Anderson Cooper didn't say anything. Van Jones didn't say anything. David Axelrod didn't say anything. They just wanted to go back and talk about how, oh well, it wasn't stolen, but it wasn't stolen. And I think if you go back and look at twenty twenty, you have Democrat operatives suing in these jurisdictions to change procedures. And then the thing that in my view is the greatest incin contribution in the history of politics is the FBI working in my view, with the DNC to get the Hunter Biden laptop story completely removed from the body politic right in the heat of an election like that in of itself is interference with an election, and you know, you know, to go take it way back at twenty sixteen, the Democrats are still fuming saying Russia involved themselves in our election. Well, let me be very clear to everybody, Russia can't hold a candle to what the FBI did with this, with this, this, this letter and their information going to the social media companies in twenty twenty.
Or the fact they are the misinformation Russian paid for. Hillary Clinton paid for Russian disinformation dossier that ended up being false but was used as the bulk of information for four PIZA applications. That's a big deal to me, I would think to you as well.
It is. And I think where we go now, going into twenty four is I think, you know, the RNC. You know obviously I think Donald Trump's going to be our nominee. So the Trump campaign and everybody's got to be on high alert because these guys will pull any trick, they will cut any corner to try to win an election. And because it's about power, Shawn, you know that I know that it's about them trying to ban gas stoves and now ban power plans that don't meet some stupid emission standard that came out of nowhere. And it is all this stuff that is actually terrible for the American people. But we're gonna be alert and we're gonna be on guard because we just want to make sure we have a fair and open election. Let the people decide it, not pundits and not these shadow groups who might be inside the FBI and other parts of our country.
Look as far as I'm concerned, and there were people, for example, in a meeting I believe on the second of January I have on tape I can played for you, but I played it yesterday. I won't waste that everybody's time. But you have Donald Trump himself, you have his chief of staff at the time, Mark meadows. You have Chris Miller then acting the Secretary of Defense and his chief of staff, and then in the Inspects to General report, they quote General Millie was in the room that Donald Trump was willing to authorize the National Guard troops to be called up. So we've litigated January sixth to death. They didn't call up the troops. Nobody brought up those points. But that's what they want to talk about, a fake new CNN. I think elections should be about the future. I think we have the worst economy we've had in my adult lifetime right now, and it's getting worse. I look at this new access of evil with China, Russia, Iran and scares the hell out of me. I see our allies pulling back from US and pulling away from US, and they seem to be betting that China's going to win world dominance over the United States. That concerns me and should concern everybody else. But they're the ones that bring up these topics and then they want to go liar liar pants on fire because they disagree with them.
Well, one quick thing to fact check Kaitlyn Collins and the CNN Nancy Pelosi or not Nancy Pelosi, the Speaker of the House, is in charge of security at the Capitol Police. They report to the Speaker's office. So what she said in the town hall saying that, oh, Nancy Pelosi's not in charge of security is a lie. She was in charge of security. Do they report to the speaker. That's what happens now. Kevin McCarthy's down in charge of capital security. Those are the facts. But going to what's happening.
Byron too, I'll add one other person to this list, and that's the former Capitol Police chief Chief Son who's on this program. And he was begging for guard troops in the days leading up to and the day of January sixth. They wouldn't give it to them, give it to him. And then we learned that our intelligence had picked up on the possibility that there were going to be agitators in that crowd with plans to do something like what happened that day, and they didn't act on that intelligence. That was reported by Lester Holt on NBC News of all places.
No, that's absolutely correct. It was testified in Oversight Committee that there was an intelligence report that went from FBI to the Capitol Police and so when members of the Oversight Committee Republicans wanted to have the Capitol Police testify to that fact, Nancy Pelosi never allowed them to testify. And then when that fact came out, the Oversight Committee investigations were stopped, and then Nancy Pelosi started her crazy January sixth one sided committee. Those are the facts, that's what happened. And so I think it's important in that vein to understand, now we're looking at this White House, we have massive amounts of migrants at our southern border. I saw a video the other day that now they're scrambling to throw up the border wall fence that they let sit on the ground for two years, all the material that they stopped construction. Now they're down there trying to throw it up at the last minute. I guess walls work, Shawn. When you really need one, you put a wall up.
That's why they built one at the Biden one of the many Biden compounds.
Right, you got that, right, And so you have that. Our economy obviously is a mess, this debt ceiling debacle, where you know, you have a president who's just not even talking to anybody, not engaged, but he wants to blame everybody else. No, we're not taking that bait. Republicans were committed to this country being better. We have plans and ideas and strategies to do to make it better, to get it back on track. But we're gonna have to go get a new president because this guy is a dumpster fire. That's over at sixteen hundred right now.
By the way, I don't even think he knows today's Friday. I say it every day because he doesn't know. Quick break will come back more with Florida Republican Byron Donalds is with US eight hundred and ninety four one, Shawn a number. We'll get to your calls coming up straight ahead. We continue with Congressman Byron Donalds of the Great State of Florida. You know a lot of people have been watching, as I've been watching you emerge as a very strong leader within the Republican caucus. Do you have any other future political plans for yourself?
I don't know.
I have no frigid idea. I have no idea at all.
I can't.
By the way, I know that's an honest answer.
Yeah it is. Well, you can't game plan politics. When I ran for Congress, you know, I told my voters that I was going to make sure we were taking the message of conservatism everywhere, because that's what we're going to need to do if we're going to win the day, you know. So that's the job on' man, That's what I want to do, you know. I know people talk about other things coming up, but we'll see what happens when it gets there. Right now, I'm just doing my job, you know, trying to make sure that at least in the House, we're holding the line that we're putting out strong conservative policy, which is what House Republicans have been doing under the leadership of Kevin McCarthy. And we're just going to go get the job done. What happens in the future and I'll leave that, I'll leave that to the funual.
You pass this border bill, which was not easy to pass. You passed the no Stock Trading Bill, which I liked a lot. I thought that was very smart. But more importantly, you passed the bill to raise the debt ceiling, and it simply will will send spending back to twenty twenty two levels, which is very reasonable of my view. We've got, you know, just a couple of weeks away now eighteen nineteen days away from this debt ceiling default date that Anna Yellen has given us of June one. And I guess I don't know why Joe Biden stayed away from Kevin McCarthy for ninety seven days, but he did. Kevin was begging to meet with him. I'm pretty much on a daily basis, he said no. So I don't know what the White House is thinking, because I don't believe with the small majority that you have in the House that Kevin McCarthy's going to be able to go back to the Republicans in the House and say we're going to offer these changes that the Democrats want. Are you all going to sign on to it? I don't think he's going to get a majority to do that, do you.
No, I don't, and I don't think that at all. And I think the key thing in what you said is our proposal is actually a modest proposal. We think that just going back to pre COVID spending levels makes sense. And so that twenty two spending cap is to talk about. I'm gonna get a little into the weeds for the listeners. What it really does. It keeps defense at the twenty three level with a little bit of a kicker for defense, because looking at what's going on around the globe, our military has to be ready. But it also pushes all the agency stuff back to twenty nineteen. And the reason you do that is because back in twenty nineteen, you know, it's not like we were you know, it's not like we were pikers out here. We were still spending money, but not the crazy plus ups that Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi did with these agencies. So you got to get that back. It helps us get to a sustainable playing field long term. So we view it as a modest proposal, and you were able to get House Republicans on board with doing this in order to say we're going to raise the dead ceiling and then find further ways to continue to get the nation's fiscal house in order. While we were doing this for ninety seven days, like one hundred days now working together, and.
By the way, I talked to a lot of people during that time. This was a heavy heavy lift to get all you guys on the same page.
Yes, it was a heavy lift. While we're doing that, Joe Biden is I don't know what he was doing taking a nap, eat an ice cream. I don't know what this guy was doing the Senate. And let me say real quick, Chuck Schumer, those guys were doing nothing over in the Senate. So they need to get to work. They need to come up with a plan and the strategy that we saw him they can pass the Senate. Because I'll tell you this, as much as Joe Biden said he wants a clean debt ceiling, there are no votes in the Senate. They don't have the votes in the Senate for a clean debt ceiling. So I think the next step is the Senate needs to pass a plan and then we sit down and talk over what we can agree to that.
But the Senate's not going to be able to pass the plan because you got forty four Republican senators I think maybe one Democrat Joe Manchin. They're saying they support the House bill.
Well, I mean, I mean John says.
At that point, the default then lies with Joe Biden. That's all I have to say. And he shouldn't have sat on his ass for ninety seven days and did nothing.
Totally agree and to that last point, Joe Biden could have passed the debt ceiling in the Omibus bill last Christmas Eve. He could have done that when Nancy Pelosi was still Speaker. They didn't want to. They wanted to set up a political fight. They wanted to put our treasury markets in a lurch and in chaos. Joe Biden wanted to create a crisis around this. I mean it's surprised.
Well, be careful what you wish for, because things are bad enough. This will only accelerate the coming recession that he caused. I do wish I had more time. Congressman Byron Donald's Florida. We love having you. Thank you, sir, you were great this week. God bless you for going into over to fake news CNN was the only time I heard common sense in a while there, So thank you. Thanks Sean eight hundred and ninety four one. Seawn our number if you want to be a part of the program this Friday.
