Inspector General Keeps FBI In Check - October 4th, Hour 2

Published Oct 4, 2021, 10:01 PM

Jason Chaffetz, Fox News Contributor and Distinguished Fellow at the Government Accountability Institute discuss the new IG report. 

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Day number fifty one. Do you want an hour two Sean Hannity Show, toll free, It's eight hundred and ninety four one, Sean, you want to be a part of the program. One of the things that has frustrated me, Where's Dorham? Where's Dorham? Now, just before the statute of limitations were to end, he did arrestless guy Susman. We've spent a lot of time on it. Now we know that he's going deeper into what are the origins of this conspiracy theory? You know, which when you get to the bottom of what has happened here, it is the single most corruption corrupt abuse of power scandal ever. Now, when I talk about the FBI and the CIA and the intelligence community, I'm only talking about one percent, not the ninety nine percent everybody forgets. Inspector General Michael Harrowitz did a comprehensive report that vindicated all of our reporting of almost three years about this phony Trump rush, a collusion narrative. Now he's going from Susman, he's looking where the money flows. The money literally came from Hillary Clinton and then the DNC that she was controlling at the time funnel to Perkins Cooey Perkins Cooeye. They then fund Fusion GPS, an opresearch firm. OP research firm used Christopher Steele and anyway as a basis of the dossier. Then they use a phony attack against Carter Page, who we now know to be a CIA operative, which makes it even more intriguing. You couldn't make this up and write a novel about this, But they use it as a backdoor into all things candidate Donald Trump and his world, and then Transition Team Trump in his world and President Donald Trump and all of it. Even to quote Andrew McCabe, there's no fis a warrant without the dirty Russian dossier that we now know to be totally and completely debunked, which even they knew was debunked. Even Christopher Steele finally admitted it was debunked. His main source admitted it was debunked, interviewed by the FBI, But they kept using it as the foundation for their applications to backdoorspy on a president of the United States. And it was one presidential candidate's dirty tricks. And it gets worse every day. And now we find out with this new report, an updated report from Inspector General Horowitz that the FBI adopted its procedures, known as the Wood Procedures in two thousand and one following concerns raised by the FISA Court. By the way, I want to have a FISA court because there are a lot of hostile regimes and bad actors in the world. But it's got to be based on verifiable information. The top of a FIS application says verified. James Comey signed three of them, and it was unverifiable because the information he relied on was false. He's not been held accountable. McCabe's not been held accountable. Very few people held accountable. If you're a Conservative or a Republican, you spit on the sidewalk or your jaywalk, you're gonna get ten years in jail. Anyway. So these FISA applications, you know, now we're finding out. In December of twenty nineteen, the Office of Inspector General examined the FISA applications targeting a US person other aspects of FBI's Crossfire Hurricane investigation, identifying significant errors or omissions in all four FISA applications they used to spy on Donald Trump and Carter Page of victim. In all of this finding that the FBI personnel had failed to meet the FBI's scrupulously accurate standard and other requirements of what's known as the Wood Procedures, and the Office of Inspector General initiated the audit to determine whether the significant errors found in the December twenty nineteen OIG report or indicative of a more widespread problem with compliance. Turns out, yeah, it's really bad, and it now shows how abusive the that again, the upper echelance, the few, not the many, not the majority, have been in terms of abusing power, which is corrupt. And remember this is like lawlessness on a level with a power connected to it that is extraordinarily dangerous to the country. Jason Chaffitz has done a great job with this, a deep dive. He's a Fox News contributor. Also now he's with the Government Accountability Institute as a distinguished fellow. Look, you and I have gone over the Inspector General report, the original report. There were numerous referrals in that report. Nobody followed up. Why has it taken John Durham this long to just begin to get to the low hanging fruit that existed in the IG report. More than a thousand pages Sean and more than a dozen people that were referred over there evidence handed to John Durham. I have no idea why it's taking him so long. But what also scares me is this latest report. It you know, it came out late last week and so it got you know, kind of just blown over because there was so much other news. But think about this. They did a sampling of twenty nine FISA applications over a four year period. One hundred percent of them, one hundred percent of those applications had either unsupported, inaccurate, or omitted information in this one hundred percent, And this is the justification that they get used to go to a court because it's a secret chord. It's a one way court. There's only the prosecutor that gets to go in there and say, hey, we need this, we need this warrant based on this information. And yet the Inspector General found one hundred percent of the random cases that they took where it had either unsupported, inaccurate or omitted information. I mean you're talking about now, I've got a seriously considered and I said this back when we were covering this almost every day. I've got to ask myself whether or not the violations are so severe that we'd have to give up an important tool and combatting hostile regimes, enemy nations, hostile organizations, because I don't trust that it's going to be handled correctly. They've not adopted measures that would ensure that integrity is put back in the system. Well, and where's the chord on this? I mean, name any other instance where you go to the judicial branch and you lie, cheat omit, give inaccurate information and there aren't repercussions. How comes Justice Roberts, who ultimately has the control. It's his responsibility. This fis the court. If you look at the food chain, the fis the courts ultimately ends up reporting him. How come he isn't in their demanding people that why aren't there some people going to jail? I guarantee if they incarcerat a couple of these people, there would be some changes. These agents would think a long and hard and make sure they they got all the tea's crossed and all the eyes dotted, and all the information is there. But nothing happens. It's the same story every time I talked to you about this stuff, and it's infuriated, it's infuriating, and it's it should be easily fixed. I mean the standard it's on. I've never seen a FIS application, but I've had it confirmed by everybody that is that the word says verified. In other words, you're presenting to the FISA Court judge, you're right, appointed by Chief Justice Roberts. You're now telling the court it's something that you are, as a law enforcement official, saying is verified. Yeah. John Ratcliffe, for instance, a former member Congress, a director of National Intelligence, He's been through these and it is in a classified setting, but it's not anything classified to say what the generic report that you fill out says. At the very top you as signed. You sign your name verifying that it is verifiable and that the information is there. But it should shows how sloppy and inadequate it is that has done there. Sean, when I was in Congress, I was on the Judiciary Committee. I was on the Crime subcommittee. When we were trying to have hearings about this, I asked our chairman if I could go to one of these hearings, could I attend one of these? Could we talk to one of the judges, And every time it was no, you don't have the proper security. Clarence, I was just a member of Congress. I was just the chairman of the Overseight Committee. Well, who does have clarance to go do that? And we better darnwell changed this. We better listen to the Inspector General, because we give these people special spying power and one hundred percent of the time of the random sample they've had bad, bogus information. You know, let me play for you how high the standard is. Now. What's ironic about what I'm about to play is Rod Rosenstein signed the final the fourth FISA application and again, now we know the information was based there was no FISA warrant. If there, they didn't have the Clinton and paid for dirty Russian dassier. Okay, knowing that, listen to what Rod Rosenstein said. The way we operate in the Department of Justice, if we're going to accuse somebody of wrongdoing, we have to have admissible evidence and credible witnesses. We need to prepare to prove our case in court, and we have to fix our signature to the charging document. That's something that not everybody appreciates. Now there's a lot of talk about FISA applications and many people that I see talking about. It seem not to recognize what a FIES application. FIES application is actually a warrant, just like a search warrant. In order to get a FISA search warrant, you need an affidavit signed by a career federal law enforcement officer who swears that the information in the affidavit is true and correct to the best of his knowledge and belief. And that's the way we operate. And if it's wrong sometimes it is. If you find out there's anything incorrect in there, that person is going to face consequences. That person is going to face consequences. Now, part of the law all add to the that because nobody faced consequences. Part of the law also says that if you discover at any point that information you verified, that you told the court is true and you turn it turns out it's not true, and you know that you have an obligation to go back to the court and correct that. Yeah, and I don't see any evidence of that happening. You know, if you go back to what James coming when we were going through rate at the heart of the election and supposedly Comey's investigation of Hillary Clinton was closed, he actually did send me, as the chairman of the Oversight Committee, a letter a few days before at the end of the election saying, well, actually we are still looking at this, and you know, the whole thing just kind of blew up there. So in terms of Congress, comey did that at least once. But I see no evidence of that happening. And again, Sean, where are the courts? And how come the Congress and it's controlled by Democrats. It's Jerry Nadler, you know, in the House, a representative. Why aren't they holding like emergency meetings and hearings done? This is this is really bad stuff. Let me change topics because I mean, you've been really on target the whole time. There's only been a small group of us that have understood and fully and accurately reported everything that happened. And I'm hoping more vindication comes. I have no idea why John Dorma has taken so long and whether or not he gets to the low hanging fruit of Michael Horowitz. I have no idea because there were referrals made in his original report. Let me ask you about politics and the future of the Republican Party. We see that the Democratic Party now is in turboil. We've got probably will be a defining election in terms of the future of this country in November of next year. And this is the question. So the Democrats are in disarray. They're now a radical, extreme socialist party. You see that. How much the money is they want to spend the policies they've adopted, you know, the disaster at the border, the disaster giving up energy and dependence, inflation out of control, higher taxes, more regulation, the disaster of abandoning Americans in Afghanistan. Okay, my question is this. The Republican Party seems to have the more Rhino wing, the Liz Cheney wing of the party and Kinsinger wing of the party. And then it's America first, make America great again, to make conservatism is simple. Which side wins this battle, Well, it better be the Mago side of that equation, because making America great standing for the policies that were put forth by the Trump administration are winning. They were winning for the country. They resonate with the American people. And you know, I really hope when you kind of bump into a rhino or somebody says, oh, well, I didn't like his tweets. Oh really guess what you got in return for that. I really hope that they're challenged and said, well, which part of the policy of Donald Trump did you not like? Because as soon as you start talking about policy, they can't name anything. I mean, there are going to be some to maybe disagree with one or two things, but I doubt it. I'm telling you, Donald Trump hit it out of the park in terms of policy. He got rid of the excessive regulation, cut taxes, strengthened the border, foreign policy with a safe four years that we had under Donald Trump, the economy was zooming. I mean, we were doing everything right. So for those rhinos out there, Okay, what policy do you disagree with? Because you're pretty much gonna end up making a democratic argument and that's a losing argument at this point. Yeah, well it's a losing argument on a lot of fronts. Those mean tweets don't seem so bad now that the media was getting all worked up on every day. I think I'd take mean tweet tweets over abandoning Americans in Afghanistan. Yeah, this country, I really do. I worry about it. I look at at immigration at law and order right here at home is just right on my forefront. But every teams, like every hour, the head swivels and you just think, are you kidding me? Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, AOC, this is what they got, Bernie Sanders. Come on. If Republicans can't win in this atmosphere and those ab horrent policies, socialist policies, we're in more trouble than I thought. All right, Jason Chafitz, we always love having you on. Eight hundred nine four one. Shaun is a number. You want to be a part of the program. When we come back, We're gonna get to your phone calls. Eight hundred and nine four one Shaun is a number you want to be a part of the show. All right, twenty five till the top of the hour, eight hundred nine four one, sean if you want to be a part of the program. So what's up with Kimmel taking these shots at me last week? Linda? Did you see my tweets over the weekend? Sure? Did? They were very subtle, really having a hard time. I didn't know. I don't think think just to my own Twitter account. So I gotta get permission. I've got a got to go through five people to get a tweet out and I just don't have time for it or that much interest in it. But I'm not gonna take crap from him. No, definitely not. So you know, I said, all right, if you if you want to reignite the fight, I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna win. I just don't fight to lose. It must be nice to know that, you know, you just live in his mind all day long, rent free apparently. I mean, and I could care less about Kimmel. You know, you know it's kicking ass in late nine television. It's not Foulon and it's not Colbert and it's not Kimmel. You know who's kicking ass. It's Greg Gutfeld over on the Fox News Challenge's got to listen to shows. He's a very funny guy, and he's doing really, really well, and he's going up against these shows and he's beating him a lot of nights. How cool is that? I think anybody that beats all of these liberals, I mean, it's okay in my book, you know. Look, and I don't even care as long as they're funny. Like John Stewart used to kick the crap out of me. But I always thought he was funny. Funny, funny if you're funny, but then it's funny. These guys are not funny, So it's not enjoyable. It's just not And even if it's at my expense, I'm like, just be fun be funny something. Sean Hernerdy thought he was was really desperate and needed to go after Joe Biden, and he claimed that when he showed up at the congressional baseball game he got booed. By the way he did get booed at the congressional baseball game, pathetic, you know, I said, if you want to talk about serious issues, how do you feel about him abandoning Americans behind enemy lines? Jimmy, how do you feel about begging Opak for for them to produce more energy because he gave up the energy independency inherited? How do you feel about open borders with a high rate of COVID positivity in the middle of a pandemic, Jimmy, you know, how do you feel about inflation? I mean, okay, you want to get serious, let's talk. Yeah, but can't you know that? And this is the thing. If this was Donald Trump, all of these shows tonight would air the following. First, we're gonna play the F Joe Biden Chance all across America this weekend and a lot of football games, etc. And first let's start there. Oh now, let's go to Talladega NASCAR. Yeah, Telladegat a little message for Joe too. Oh my god, it's such an unbelievable moment. Brandon. You also told me you can hear the chance from the crowd. Let's go, Brandon. Brandon, you told me you were going to kind of hang back those from two stages and just watch and learn what you learn to help you there in those closing laps. Oh my god, it was learning how line didn't stay to one and everything shifted top to bottom so much. I don't know. Maybe it's me I am hard of hearing, but I didn't hear Let's go, Brandon, and I heard F Joe Biden again. Maybe I'm making it up. No, I mean, I think the funniest part about the whole thing. I mean, first of all, I saw this this morning and I was crying, laughing, crying. I'm like, are we really trying to pretend like we're not hearing the words coming out of their mouth? There's a thousand. Let's go, Brandon, I'm like, I don't know, let's go. I definitely didn't hear anything about Brandy three years in radio, and I mean, you're deaf. I'm going on deaf. And it was clear as a bellt to me. Let me tell you, it was very clear. I knew exactly what they were saying. Do you know how many interviews I've been doing because of the twenty fifth anniversary of Fox? Can you believe I'm the longest running primetime cable news hosts on the air? I can't believe you'll be the longest in history. By the way, if I make it, there's no guarantee I'll make it, but you're gonna try it. You're gonna be I'll make it. I think you'll make it. You got a lot of spirit, a lot of fighting. There's a lot to talk about. You know, the world's on fo I'll tell you this, if I didn't transform my life nine now, starting my ninth year of martial mixed martial arts, if I didn't transform my life, I don't think. I don't. I don't. I just I would be in bad shape by now. I do agree with you that a healthier lifestyle has definitely helped the rigorous requirements of the last presidency. What's happening in our world now? I mean it is a non stop, twenty four to seven job, without question. And I'm giving these interviews when people are like, well, we'll tell us about your life. What's your you know, what do you like to do for fun? I'm like, work, what do you do? I said? I live like a marine dur in the week. You know, I get up, I work out for a night and a half. Now I'm I'm eating better than ever. You'd be very proud of have a salad every day. I'm now eating vegetables with every meal, very very What vegetables are you eating? Let's let's quant what kind of vegetables we try. I don't know why, but I like fresh cut string beans. Look a lot. That's like the only vegetable I don't like. Okay, and spinach that's good has to be chopped. I can't. I can't eat anything that looks like a leaf from tree. Shocking, but fresh and uh, peas and and then mixed vegetables. All right, pretty cool, not bad for you? Every Now the true wait wait, wait, wait, we're not doing yet. How much salt, highest quality meats you'd be happy to know, free range chickens, you know, nor hom no hormones or any of that crop. Okay, and and but but only four to six ounces of meat at any given meal. That's it. So back to the original question, portions a day, How much salt are you having? None? Ton? Oh? A ton? Yeah? And oh and I drink a lot of califlower non dairy gluten free soup. Wait, you drink a lot of you know? How do you have the audascy to rip Linda for stuff that she eats the green pie suit, nasty stuff? Who drinks Cauliflower's not the skull? It looks like clam chowder. No, no, no, you don't. Don't. Don't trying defend this that your stuff is straight and nasty and everybody knows it. Now I'm telling you it's really good and bone marrow and collie flower, that this is what you're doing with yourself. He can't taste because it's covered and salt. Yeah, it definitely gets blanketed with a nice sheet assault. But an all series is how how has it been going with all the interviews or people being creeps or has it been good you know. I mean, there's the predictable crap, but I mean everyone mostly has been pretty nice. The New York Post, I think it was like the nicest article I ever had yesterday. Well, you know you had twenty five years share at radio as well. Right, we didn't celebrate that either, because you don't like to do that because it's right before nine eleven. But yeah, five years as well. You see, you just gave away something. I don't talk about this show Syndicated on September tenth, two thousand and one. Now I've been on radio thirty three years, and I just cannot make I just can't talk about it. I know it's really sad, but I honestly, and I said this to you, you know, you know, for for the audience's purposes, you know, close friends and colleagues and family, like we all put together a video for Sean. It wasn't public, and we gave it to him, and he said to me, he's like, this is really nice, but I just can't even celebrate because it's before such a tragic day of all of our lives, all Americans quite frankly the world. I would I just for me personally, I find it highly inappropriate. I know you always say it's inappropriate, but can't but I don't. I just it's not in me to do it. If I may for a moment, I will say this is this show has been dedicated to, you know, our men and women who give their lives so that we have the freedom to talk the way that we do. And you have always paid homage to those who pay the ultimate sacrifice. We've always remembered nine to eleven. And you have done everything you can with this microphone to give back, to give people a voice. So there is something to be said for the fact that you know, this has been a way of saying thank you over twenty five years, and that's saying listen, I feel like I've had a life that is not deserved. But there are two things. I always make the point that and I feel like I'm being interviewed by you. Now, good grief. I would never do that to you, Okay. So I've always made the point that I don't think fame is healthy. I never saw fame that's not. But I don't know what happened. I get behind a radio microphone, the light goes on and like it just comes flying out of me. I can't really explain what happened. But this is my passion. This is what I love. You know, I would get up and do the exact same thing every day, except I'm blessed to be able to do it and share it with this great audience, now larger than it's ever been. You know, we're approaching six hundred and seventy or seventy five radio stations now we're at that, we're approaching seven hundred, and I mean, I just never thought i'd be this blessed. And now twenty five years on Fox, and sometime next year will be the longest running primetime cable show in history. And I don't know whether I should laugh or cry. I think it's your hair. It's quiz, you got good hair. It's clearly what it is. You know how pissed off I was last night. They're running in the special about the twenty five years of Fox, and it's I have a rule, do not show me from back in day one? Why why do you have this rule? I kiss it. I just cringe if if if you cringe, but will cringe. I get humiliated. I want to hide in a hole somewhere. I don't know. I think it's kind of neat. I think it's nostalgic. I like it anyway, Oh God, anyway, step and Florida. What's up, Steve. We should be with you. How are you? John? Very well? Thanks, thanks for having thanks for taking a call, Thank you for calling, sir. Listen to show quite a bit, and just like you were just saying, now your approach of seven our stations, you have a lot to sway with your audience. And I couldn't get hard numbers. They talked like maybe fourteen fifteen maid and radio listeners every week. There's a lot of people. It's very hard to measure it accurately anymore, because you got a hundred, you know, like there are certain unrated platforms like satellite radio. Then every station has their own website, and then I have Hannity dot Com, then I have podcasting, then you have the stations. I mean, so it gets hard, but we know it's grown by leaps and bounds, and and we do enough anecdotal We get enough anecdotal information that you know that I'm very blessed and I never forget that you make this show possible everyone that listens to the show. I can't do it without you you could fire me at any point. I hope you don't not get a fire yet. My point is, just like you were just saying, you know, you have a large audience, and you swing a pretty big bat with your audience. I got that question. Go ahead, what's a question? Oh, I'll go let me ask. Do you think our country will be better off if everyone who was able physically able or to get a vaccine shot? I think it's got to be. I'm not in that position. I spent a lot of time in an interview today explaining this to somebody today. I never went to medical school. I'm not a doctor. Okay, everybody, everyone listening, Everybody in this country has their very own unique medical history that I don't know a thing about. Everybody has their own current medical condition that I don't know a thing about. We've lost seven hundred thousand Americans here this and that's why I say, please take this seriously. Please research. I'm not talking about starting your own virology lab and breaking down the sequence of the virus and the genomes within the virus. I'm talking about learning about every aspect of this virus that you can learn about. The varying vaccines, the mRNA technology. We had the creator of it on the program not that long ago, versus say the Johnson and Johnson learn about therapeutics. If you have a breakthrough case, or you're unvaccinated and you get a posit COVID test, take it seriously, immediately call your doctor. And you have to do this in consultation with a professional. I'm not qualified to give that information out, Steve. I you know, for example, I know unvaccinated people that are older that got within twenty four hours monoclonal lantibodies and they're fine. I have a friend that had a breakthrough case fully vaccinated monoclonal antibodies did great. We don't talk enough about that either. But what you're really asking me is why don't I believe in one size fits all medicine. I just don't. And then then you might follow up and ask me, well, Hannity, what about those people. I don't agree with doctor Fauci who says that Americans should give up their individual freedom for the greater good of society. I believe in the idea of freedom, that's it. I believe in science. I believe in the science of vaccination. But you've got to be I'm giving you the answers to follow the best path, but it's ultimately your decision with your doctor, not Sean Hannity's decision. Sean, I totally agree with you all the way through. And the reason I'm calling is because over time you've done a good job of promoting the vaccines. I think for people that are able, I believe you do, and I commend you for it. Listen, even the people, the doctors we've had on I can't eat Rand Paul, for example, it's not getting vaccinated because he believes he has natural immunity. You know, he had said, definitely, if you have a pre existing condition, if you have comorbidities, compromised immune system, get the vaccine, he says, I highly recommend it. So did the creator of the m RNA virus. I was a little surprised that he made other exceptions. I was surprised by his answer on that. But you know, I put plon that I agree and disagree with, and I put people on that give you information. But then again, you take the information you have to look at your unique medical history and condition and talk to your doctor about it. But I really do I've seen the worst of this thing, Steve, It's bad. I've seen people that have survived ventilators, and I know people that died on ventilators, and I don't want any of that to happen to any of you. Please be smart. That's my advice. Okay, at this point, I think a lot of people know someone up close and personal that had most every giarn. It's terrible. And by the way, I was the first Conservative that said I don't really mind wearing a mask. It ended up being a blessing in my life. I got anonymity, a little an anonymity back in my life. But you know, but the real reason was I didn't want to make anybody sick. I feel terrible if I didn't know I had something, I was asymptomatic. If it turns out I have it and I'd have to call somebody and they got something from me, I feel terrible. Quick freak. We'll come back more of your calls eight hundred and nine for one sean on number. You want to be a part of the program, and we've got Mike Pence, Kaylee mckinany, John Andreasic. Where do you see the video we've done with him for tonight on Hannity nuking Rich much more. Please say your DVR, we'll continue

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