Carrie Severino, Chief Counsel and Policy Director, Judicial Crisis Network and Meghan McCaleb, went to high school with Brett Kavanaugh and they remain good friends to this day 30 years later, they talk about the upcoming hearing coming this Thursday 9/27/18. Earlier today, Severino released the following statement: “Senate Republicans must not allow unsubstantiated and discredited allegations from over three decades ago to destroy the life and reputation of a good man. Countless people from every phase of Brett Kavanaugh's life have testified that he is a good man of the highest character and integrity. Chuck Schumer vowed to oppose Kavanaugh with everything he's got, and apparently that took the form of character assassination. This has all of the ingredients of a smear campaign on steroids. Senate Republicans should stand up to these unsubstantiated and discredited allegations and move forward with a vote to confirm Kavanaugh." The Sean Hannity Show is on weekdays from 3 pm to 6 pm ET on iHeartRadio and Hannity.com.
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Been in New York at the United Nations moments ago, making this comment about the situation in Washington with Rod Rosenstein. On Thursday, when I get back from all of these meetings, and we'll be meeting at the White House and we will be the germanating, Uh, what's going on? We want to have transparency, we want to have openness, and I look forward to meeting with Rod at that time. What you do with what We're gonna have a meeting on Thursday. Want to get back right now. Today we're meeting with a lot of great people, including President Moon and where over the next couple of days. As you know, we're meeting with many countries tomorrow giving a big speech. But I'll be back on Thursday. And when I get back, we're gonna have a meeting. I spoke with Rod today and then we're gonna have a meeting on Thursday. Want to get back to the Whitehouse. I want to say the the country, the United States, as President Moon pointed out when we first met, the United States is doing better economically than we've ever done before. The numbers are outstanding. New numbers will be released that I think we'll just continue this forward March and I think we have tremendous potential of the side. I'm very excited about our new trade agreement. And this is a brand new agreement. This is not an old one rewritten. This is the brand new agreement, and I'm very excited about that for the United States. And I really believe it's good for both countries. But the the numbers that we're doing in the United States, whether it be unemployment numbers or whether it be employment numbers, we have right now this moment more people working in the United States than ever before in our history. That's some number mine, right and and you know it's it's a number that people did not expect to see. It's a number that nobody thought would happen. Certainly within two years. We're not even up to two years of the administration. So we have more people working in the United States today that we've ever had. Our unemployment numbers are among the best they've ever had. For African American, it's the lowest we've ever had, were Asian American. For Hispanics, the lowest we've ever had. And we're out of that. And on top of that, we have many companies moving back into the United States. In most cases it's back they left and now they're coming back. They all want to be with the action. And so I appreciate your kind words. But our economy is the envy right now of the world, with the fastest growing economy in the world. Think of it as large as we are with the fastest growing economy in the world, up ten billion dollars. So we're very proud of that, Thank you very much. All right, that was the president. He is at the u N And that was the irony I know. Axios had written today the Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein had verbally offered to resign in discussions with the White House Chief of Staff, General Kelly According to a source close to Rosenstein. Anyway, it was a media build up all day that culminated in the president say no, we're actually meeting. Thursday. Sarah Sanders had put out a statement about out this, saying that at the request of the Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, he and President Trump had an extended conversation to discuss the recent news stories, that of course being the New York Times story that in a conversation with notes taken by Andrew McCabe well, who's a known liar, and also Lisa Page that in fact, he had talked about, oh, do you want me to record the president? You want me to in other words, when he goes to the White House to show chaos and then we can invoke the amendment. Rod Rosenstein is denying it anyway, because the President is at the United Nations General Assembly, which is awful. If you live in New York City or work in New York City, it means your life is a living hell and just hoping that maybe the United Nations finds another home one of these days, someplace beautiful on well they're actually on the water, sorry, but anyway, So Rod rosen Stein is going to meet with the President on Thursday when he returns to Washington. I have a lot more on all of the drama, on the coverage that has gone on. Uh, if you have not been following the news today, Uh, there is a lot to get to as it relates to Judge Kavanaugh, which is where we begin. By the way, I want to give a quick update to our stations across the Sean Hannity Show Network. We expect the President is gonna be holding a press conference in about thirty three minutes from now three forty five Eastern time Pacific, and when that happens, we will be covering it most likely in its entirety. Uh. We also have Sarah and Greg on the program today. People that know Judge Kavanaugh will also be joining us later in the program today. So we have a lot of ground to cover. Uh. In the course of the day, we have a another woman that has come forward and I'm gonna get to the specifics of that case. But let me first take you back to Friday night, and there was a ten pm deadline. If you were with us all last week, we were reporting the back and forth the raising of the bar almost on a daily basis by a pretty liberal activist attorney of Professor Ford. That's neither here nor there at the moment, but somebody who didn't believe Paula Jones nor did she think Paula Jones had a case, And I'll get back to that, and somebody who had defended al Frankin, which only means the Professor Ford's attorney is not consistent on this particular issue and happens to be a pretty solid left wing activist, having donated lots of money to democratic causes and and campaigns. But that again, is her attorney, that's not her um. So Friday night, the deadline was at ten o'clock. Are you going to come next week or not? At the last minute, it was about nine forty Friday night. I know it was during Hannity my TV show. Word came in that they wanted another day, another twenty four hours. Remember there had been the attorney for Professor Ford at first of yeah, no, she's willing to testify in public under oath, glad to do it. And then it became an issue, Okay, when are we gonna do it? And then it became an issue, well, we can't have people that disagree with the accusations, in other words, talking to my client. And then it became but just a series of this back and forth. I don't even think they finally have agreed now completely to Thursday. So who knows what's gonna happen by Thursday. So that happened Friday. By all accounts, it's been set the when you look at all of the witnesses. Now we're talking about Professor Ford's case here to support the allegation that she was sexually assaulted by Brett Kavanaugh. This is going back to our high school days. Although she didn't remember the location, she didn't remember the year, and all of the details that we went through last week, and the fact that Diane Feinstein held onto this letter. She knew back in July that Professor Ford made this allegation because she had a letter from Professor Ford. Only today did she share that letter with Charles Grassley and her Republican colleagues on the Senate Judiciary Committee. All the time she met alone with Judge Kavanaugh, she never once brought the issue up with him. All the times they they had these public hearings, not one time, and they all knew it. Did any Democrat bring up the issue of Professor Ford, which raises a lot of questions about how they have politicized this from the get go. Now in the interim, we know this that all of the witnesses that have been cited by Christine Ford to support her allegation that when they were in high school together don't exactly know the year. They think it's about two. And she had made this claim that she was in a bathing suit and had other clothes on top of and she was she felt she was assaulted by but then I guess a junior at the time, Judge Kavanaugh. But since that time, the Senate Judiciary Committee, who I think has been handling this, they've they have done the right thing. Anybody that has rushed to judgment here is playing politics. Now you can believe an allegation if you want to that's up to everybody's everybody's prerogative here. I I have had too many experiences in my life where I have not rushed to judgment and have been proven right when the media and many others are wrong. One high profile case, with the Duke Lacrosse case, I actually did my reporting, my investigative work by going to meet with the families of the accused. At the time, in the case of trade On Martin and George Zimmerman, everybody thought that case was a slam dunk. The President weighed in politically as well. He rushed to judgment in that case, President Obama at the time. And then we have the case and I actually did investigated work. Then I went and interviewed George Zimmerman. And another high profile case was Ferguson, Missouri. Another high profile case was Freddie Gray in Baltimore, and everybody rushes to judgment. After I had done my due diligence, I said, none of these cops are going to ever be convicted. In the case of Freddy Gray. Never everybody thought that officer Darren Wilson was going to be indicted and convicted. It was the eyewitnesses in the neighborhood one after another that backed up the story of Officer Darren Wilson, although his career ended as a result of it. So there's always a rush to judgment that I refused to get involved in. I learned this deeply when I lived in Atlanta. It was the Olympic Park bombing, and everybody thought. The Atlanta Journal Constitution comes out with he fits the profile of a lone bomber, their proof he lives with his mother, and I didn't know it at the time. Richard Jewell was listening to me on the air that day, and I was probably the only one in the media there at the time that said, that doesn't mean he's a killer, doesn't mean he's a bomber. And he ended up telling me long after that ended and gave me an interview then on Hannity and Combs, one of his first that he appreciated one person stood up for him and just gave the presumption of innocence as the media went wild. Same things happening here. When people say I believe it, they've made up their minds, and by making up their minds, they're not believing in due process. They had not believing in a fundamental core of our justice, sister, and which is the presumption of innocence. Now we know the Senate Judiciary Committee, which rightly has been accommodating to every request Professor Ford and her attorney has made, although they're not going to allow Judge Kavanaugh to go first and Professor Ford second because he has the right to respond to her allegations. Anyway, every witness, and I'll get to this when we get back, cited by Professor Ford herself to support her allegation that she was assaulted by Brett Kavanaugh, has now given their accounts to the Senate Judiciary Committee. All four contradict Professor Ford's version of events. Now we're gonna get into this, this new allegation that is being made. I've read this piece and highlighted this piece by Jane Mayer and Ronan Pharaoh, and i gotta tell you something, there is a lot of problems with this new allegation. A lot. Judge Kavanaugh has now responded, I will not be intimidated, and everybody should have this fundamental belief. There are so many that don't, but only at convenient times. Because when Keith Ellison, the number two guy at the d n C is accused by his girlfriend of physical and emotional abuse on a fairly regular basis interesting that none of these people that are rushing to judgment on Judge Kavanaugh have had a word, not a peep about Keith Ellison, and many of them were big lovers of all things Clinton. So the outrage you're hearing and seeing is so often has a a selective moral outrage with a political taink to it all, because if they cared about the issue, they'd be consistent with only a kite, a house key, and wet hempstring. Benjamin Franklin captured lightning in a bottle over two d and sixty years later, with a little resourcefulness, ingenuity, and grit, we're not only capturing energy from the sun and wind, we're storing it, ensuring Americans have the energy they need whenever they need it. Learn more about the nation's leader and energy storage at next Era energy dot com. So those that are Russian to judgment, I believe her, they've already made up their minds. Republicans have been responsible trying to accommodate. The president has been trying to accommodate changing varying, you know, demands etcetera, days, etcetera. Okay, that all happen. But in the case of an update released by the Senate Judiciary Committee that have taken seriously as they should, Professor Ford's allegations against Judge Kavanaugh. They learned the identities of all four individuals that Professor Ford claim we're at the party where the alleged abuse took place. The Committee reached out to every one of them and asked for the opportunity to have a confidential interview, and all four of them, all of them denied knowledge of any party matching Professor Ford's description. And the committee noted Dr Fords is the only first hand witness not to provide a statement or interview to the committee. And we'll see if she in fact wants to give her story on Thursday. Now, when we come back, we're gonna get to this second accuser in the New Yorker and Kavanaugh's letter and statement. I will not be intimidated. That's next, al right, so much to get to today. We haven't even touched the Rod Rosenstein drama that has been on holding all day. Will get to that, we have Judge Kavanaugh's letter, will get to that. I will not be intimidated. I also asked that, well, I'll tell you about Diane Feinstein in a minute. We'll get to that. Let let me again go back to Friday. We need to set this up properly. So the Senate Judiciary Committee is big getting all these ever changing request I'm not showing up. I'm showing up. I'm gonna show up only under these conditions, these conditions, etcetera. And they have tried to be extraordinarily accommodating, and I think for the right reasons, considering the severity of Professor Ford's allegation. Now she said to testify on Thursday. Okay, now that's step one. Now in the interim, the in spite of Diane Finstein never handing over the July letter from Professor Ford until today, never came out till today, all these opportunities, public hearings, private meetings, The Democrat rats have all been in on this. They've all known about this letter and they hit it from the Republicans, and even since it has become public, they would not hand over the letter until earlier today. Now, all of the witnesses cited by Professor Ford to support her allegation that she was sexually assaulted by Brett Kavanov. Now, given their accounts they've been working to the Senate Judiciary Committee. All four contradict Professor Ford's version of events, and so in an update that was released yesterday, the Senate Judiciary Committee said it was investigating Dr Ford's allegations against Judge Kavanaugh for the last week and it has now learned the identities of the four individuals that Dr Ford claim we're at the party where the alleged abuse took place. For individuals that Professor Ford claimed attending the party were Judge Kavanaugh, Mark Judge He's the one that came out first and also had alcohol problems at the time, uh and had said, I guess in a book or something he had written that he had blacked out a lot at that time when he was heavily abusing alcohol, Patrick Smith, and a woman by the name of Miss Leland h Ingram Kaiser. Now the Committee reached out to each person or an opportunity to conduct a confidential interview. All four of them, Mr Judge, Mr Smith, Miss Kaiser all deny having knowledge of any party matching Dr Ford's description, which obviously would bolster Mr Kavanaugha's denials. Now the Center has to make a decision here and one of their one of the things they're gonna have to factor in, and I'll get to the second woman that broke late last night is the entirety of this man's life. They're going to have to anybody that is fair minded will be willing to give this man due process, the presumption of innocence. Uh and as as much as the Democrats, and it's it's ironic Diane Feinstein is now demanding rastly postponed the hearings. Well, Diane Feinstein set the timeline to this by not releasing the information and not bringing it up until the last minute. She set the timeline here the you know, and then you've got Avanadi on the just It's sort of like a sideshow to me. I know, I have evidence, I have people, and he tries to now insert himself into everything. But we even have the woman that came forward to New York Magazine on Sunday with acclaim that Brett Kavanaugh exposed himself too hard during a drunken party at yale Um, telling Ronan Pharaoh and Jane Mayer of The New Yorker that she was no longer sure that her allegation is true. This is just break as well. On National Review Online, Jane Mayer said today that Debora Ramirez, who accused Brett Kavanaugh of sexually harassing her, told her New Yorker colleague Ronan Pharaoh that she couldn't be sure of the Supreme Court nominees guilt confronted with a New York Times report indicating they had spent all week last week apparently researching this, expressing doubts about Kavanaugh's guilt in this particular the second allegation. Mayor said Ramirez shared those doubts before they published their bombshell report on Sunday. To ron In, she said she wasn't absolutely certain. She needed to make certain before she was going to say anything publicly. She remembered the specifics, the graphics specifics, and tried to remember for sure who that man was, who was in her face. There were no eyewitness accounts in this story. Several of Kavanaugh's friends and roommates from his time at Yale, some of whom were said to have been in the room, released statements denying that ever took place. I mean, The New York Times interviewed several dozen people for the entire week last week in an attempt to and this is in the time story that I'm not making. This is from them trying to corroborate Ms. Ramirez his story, and they could find no one with firsthand knowledge, no one. Ms Ramirez herself contacted former Yale classmates, asking them if they were called the incident, and told some of them that she could not be certain Mr Kavanaugh was the one who exposed himself. Well, I mean, why are we now at this point. I've read the New Yorker piece carefully numerous times, and the New Yorker has not confirmed with any other eyewitnesses that Kavanaugh was even present at the party. From their own words, her memories contained quote gaps because she had been drinking heavily and was inebriated at the time of the alleged incident. It wasn't until she had been well gone through the issue, let me put it that way, for six days that Ramirez said she felt confident enough of her recollections to say she remembers Kavanaugh had exposed himself at a drunken dormitory party. I mean six days now, she acknowledges. She quickly became quote her words. She quickly became inebriated at the party, she acknowledged quote she was on the floor foggy, slurring her words. Ramirez acknowledged there were significant gaps in her memories of the evening. The alleged eyewitnesses all deny it. The first one said, One of the male classmates who Ramirez said egged on Kavanaugh, denied any memory of the party. I don't think Brett would flash himself to Debbi or anyone else for that matter. The second said. The other male classmate Ramiro said was involved in the incident said, I have zero recollection of this. Her college best friend even denied it by saying, this is a woman I was best friends with. We shared intimate details of our lives, and I was never told this story by her or by anyone else. It never came up. I didn't see it. I never heard of it happening. And by the way, other contemporaries deny it as well. In a statement, two of those male students who Ramiras alleged were involved in the incident. You know, the wife of the third male student said she said was involved. Three other classmates they give the names disputed. Ramirez his account of events. Quote. We were the people closest to Brett Kavanaugh during his first year at Yale. He was a roommate to some of us. We spent a great deal of time with him, including in the dorm where this incident allegedly took place. Some of us were also friends with Debbie Ramirez during and after her time at Yale. We can say with confidence that if this incident Debbie alleged has ever occurred, we would have seen or heard about it, and we did not. The behavior she describes would be completely out of character for Brett Kavanaugh. In addition, some of us knew Debbi long after Yale. She never described this incident until Brett's Supreme Court nomination was pending. Editors from The New Yorker contacted some of us because we are the people who would know the truth, and we told them we never saw or heard about this. Now Kavanaugh also personally has denied it. This alleged event from thirty five years ago did not happen. The people who knew me then know that this did not happen and have said so. This is a smear, plain and simple. I look forward to testifying on Thursday about the truth and defending my good name and my reputation and character and integrity that I have spent a lifetime building against these last minute allegations. Now we we have to look at these words that are actually in everything I'm reading here, was in the New Yorker piece. Everything. Now the question is, I mean, I can't believe I'm even saying. I mean the New York Times, the people that printed the anonymous piece on Trump, they interviewed several dozen people. They couldn't find a single person to corroborate the story of Ms. Ramirez and then her own gaps in memory, and I was inebriated early on, and so on and so forth. But by the way, you know, everybody in college drinks too much. Let's be honest here, most people do. I'm not holding this in any way against miss Ramirez. She too deserves to have her story heard. But at some point there's got to be some evidence, corroboration and more than what the New Yorker holds a standard. It's here now. I know that they've done some decent work grown in Pharaoh with the Weinstein case. Weinstein case, and um, I think that was the right thing to do. But I'm looking directly at the verbatim quotes here now, Judge Kavanaugh. And by the way, we're expecting the President at some point is going to speak and give a press conference. When that happens, we'll we'll bring it to you. When I testified in front of the Senate three weeks ago, I explained my belief that fair process is a foundational is foundational to justice and to our democracy. And I want to stop by saying this. You know, one of the reasons I always have pause in these cases. I learned it as I was mentioning in the last half hour in the Richard Jewel case that had a profound impact on my life and career because my gun instinct at the time when the a j C. I was on the air at the time, broke the story. Remember, originally he was the hero, Richard Jewel. He since has passed away and then all of a sud And by the way, I think it ruined his life. I think it just destroyed him. And I was on the air and I'm reading it. He fits the profile. And by the way, profiling is used by law enforcement. You know, it's a tool, is what it is, Just like um, it's a tool lie detector test, but they're not fool proof, and otherwise we would be you know up. But you can't mechanically perfect that, or at least we haven't. One of the reasons. Everybody has a right to be skeptical. And we see it now every four years, and I've got all the tape to play. I won't do it now because I don't have time. Republicans are racist, it comes up. Republicans don't want to even have the wrong agenda for African Americans. I don't want to count you in the census or elect Republicans. Black churches are gonna burn. And it's like my father was killed all over again. When George Bush rightly supported the death penalty fora and the James Bird case, an innocent man dragged to his death by a bunch of racist non human beings and then misogynist and and Mitt Romney and binders, Mitt Romney cut a kid's hair. Remember that came up. And Republicans are racist, sexist, misogynistic, homophobic, xenophobic is homophobic. They want dirty air and water. Well, they drink the water and they breathe the air, but they just don't agree with environmental extremists. That's why that accusation is made that Republicans want children to die. That you're gonna get every election year a grandma getting thrown over a cliff by a Republican or Paul Ryan lookalike. There is a history of doing that every election sees by the Democrats. I have a chronicled I have it down pat I warn everybody it's gonna happen. And just like in the case when Neil Gorst's when that opening occurred, or that when Anthony Kennedy retired, what did I do. I pulled out the Bork statements by Ted Kennedy. I pulled out Clarence Thomas and what happened to him and every This is what Democrats do. Sadly, that's their playbook for elections and Supreme Court nominees. They didn't have to wait for July to the last minute. They did that. Now these stories are I believe every person has a right to be heard here, but there are false allegations made. When I stood almost alone against the news media that wanted to convict kids, as it relates to the Duke Lacrosse case, I did my own investigative work, just like we did with Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin, just like we did in Ferguson, just like we vetted Obama, just like Freddie Gray, just like the Cambridge police acted stupidly. And I'm just urged. I'm not asking you to take a position. Just believe in due process. Just believe in the presumption of innocence. Here, yes, let these women, let them be heard, Give them every courtesy, every accommodation you can. Then a vote needs to happen because everything that is mentioned here by these two women is overwhelmingly contradicted by now hundreds of other people that have known Kavanaugh from high school, through college, through law school, through the Bush administration, through female law Kirk's law clerks, through the people that he works with on the court. Now, I'm gonna get to his letter when we get back. We'll follow the President uh and his press conference. We also have Sarah and Gregg coming up, and of course all the Rod Rosenstein's rama we haven't even gotten to yet. We got a lot to get to, a right glad you with us um, what is a huge, busy breaking news day. We're expecting the president to give a press conferences at the U Win today. He'll be speaking tomorrow and obviously we'll have some of those highlights as well. UM, I want to get back to Brett Cavanaugh, and then we're gonna get into the Rod Rosenstein issue, which I haven't even had time to touch today because of all the breaking news that has occurred. Uh. By the way, the White House will meet with Rod Rosenstein on Thursday, and so much drama today and so much false reporting today, and uh, anyway, it doesn't surprise me. Let me. Um, So this is the letter that Brett Kavanaugh and I just went over both cases, including the New Yorker bomb that dropped last night, but the New Yorker didn't confirm with other eyewitnesses that Kavanaugh was even president at the party. Her memories contained gaps. She admits she was inebriated very quickly and and had been drinking pretty heavily at the time of the alleged incident. Um, it wasn't until well she had to go through the issue for six days before she could settle on what had happened thirty four years ago. And um, it was then at that point she felt confident enough in her recollections to say that she remembers Kavanaugh had exposed himself at a party when he was a freshman at Yale. She acknowledged herself that she had significant gaps in her memories that evening. The alleged I witnesses all denied it. The first one said. One of the male classmates who Ramirez said egged on Kavanaugh denied any memory of the party. I don't think Brett would flash himself to Debbi or anybody for that matter, others said other classmates. Ramirez h that said Ramires was involved in the incident commented, we don't have any recollection of that. Her best friend in college even said. This is a woman I was best friends with. We shared intimate details of our lives. I was never told this story by her or by anybody else. Never came up. I didn't see it. I never heard of it happening. Other contemporaries denied, as well, statement of two of those male classmates who Ramirez alleged were involved in the incident. The wife of the third male student she said was involved in. Three other classmates disputed ramirez his account of events. We were people closest to Brett Kavanaugh during his first year at Yale. He was a roommate to some of us we went, and we spent a great deal of time with him, including in the dorm where this incident allegedly took place. Some of us who were also friends with Debbie Ramirez during hurt, during and after her time at Yale, we can say with confidence that if the incident Debbie alleges ever occurred, we would have seen or heard about it, and we did not, and the behavior she describes would be completely out of character for Brett Kavanaugh. In addition, some of us knew Debbie long after Yale, and she never described this incident until Brett's Supreme Court nomination was pending. Editors from The New Yorker contacted some of us because we were the people who would know the truth, and we told them we never saw or heard about any of this, and Kavanaugh, of course, has denied it. I think one of the more interesting aspects of this is The New York Times had said that they've been investigating all of this for a week, and they had interviewed several dozen people over the past week in an attempt to corroborate her story and could find no one with firsthand knowledge. Mrs Ramirez herself contacted former Yell classmates asking if they were called the incident, and told some of them that she could not be certain. Ms Kavanaugh. Mr Kavanaugh was one of the one who exposed himself. I mean, this is not there. There's too much here that you you have to ask yourself. And this is where the history of the Democratic Party comes in and the handling of Professor Ford's case comes in, and all of the people that were supposedly there have now spoken out and spoken out loudly. The Senate Judiciary rightly took it seriously, contacted all the witnesses cited by professor Ford. They all contradicted her account. Anyway. So Brett Kavanaugh, who will be on Martha McCallum show tonight. We'll have some of those highlights on Hannity tonight. You know, he sent a letter to Charles Grassley, the chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, and Diane Feinstein, the ranking Remember Diane Feinstein's handling him. All of this has been atrocious, just absolutely fundamentally atrocious. Even she at one point, So I have no idea how any of this is true. You know, the inconsistency by Democrats, it should cause everyone to pause. We played you the ad that is running in in Ohio Jared Brown, I mean a horrible court allegations by his wife. Then we have Corey Booker writing about groping a high school friend as they fumbled upon a bed, and and he's admitting such behavior. You know, Booker, you know facing cript. Where are the Democrats criticism of the of these two individuals here? You know? He writes in the nineteen nineties, while a student at Stanford New Year's Eve four, he was fifteen, he groped a female for his breast after the two of them had kiss with the top gun slogan ringing in my head. I slowly reached for her breast, he writes of that night, after having my hand pushed away once I reached my mark. Those are his words. The point of Booker's column was how at that moment in his work on the issue after it changed him and his views on women and consent an assault. It was a wake up call, he said, I will never be the same, well shared. Brown walks the Hall of Congress and soda shared. So does Corey Booker. Fifteen at the time when I testified, Brick Cavanaugh writes before the Senate three weeks ago, I explained my belief that a fair process is foundational to justice and to our democracy at a At that time, I sat before the Senate Judiciary Committee for more than thirty one hours and answered questions under I then answered more questions at a confidential session the following week. I responded to more than twelve written questions, more than have been submitted to all previous Supreme Court nominees combined. Think about that only after the exhaustive process was complete that I learned for the news media about a thirty six year old allegation from high school that had been asserted months earlier and withheld from me throughout the entire hearing process. First, it was an anonymous allegation that I had categorically and unequivocally denied. Soon after the accuser was identified, I repeated my denial on the record and made clear that I wished to appear before the committee. I then repeated my denials to committee investigators. Under criminal penalties for false statements. All of the witnesses identified by Dr Ford as being president the party she describes are on the record to the committee saying they have no recollection of any such party happening. I asked to testify before the Committee again under oath, as soon as possible, so that both Dr Ford and I could both be heard. I thank Chairman grass Lely for scheduling that hearing for Thursday. Last night, another false and uncorroborated accusation from thirty five years ago was published. Once again. Those allegations have uh. Those alleged to have been witnesses to the event deny it ever happened. There is now a frenzy to come up with something, anything, that will block this process and a vote on my confirmation from a curry. These are smears, pure and simple, and they debase our public discourse. But they are also a threat to any man or woman who wishes to serve our country. Such grotesque and obvious character assassination, if allowed to succeed, will dissuade competent and good people of all political persuasion from service persuasions. As I told the Committee during my hearing, a federal judge must be independent, not swayed by public or political pressure. This is the kind of judge I will always be, will not be intimidated into withdrawing from this process. The coordinated effort to destroy my good name will not drive me out. Vile threats of violence against my family will not drive me out. The last minute character assassination will not succeed. I have devoted my career to serving the public and the cause of justice, and particularly to promoting equality and dignity of women. Women from every phase of my life have come forward to attest to my character, and I am grateful to them. I owe to them and to my family to defend my integrity and my name. I look forward to answering questions from the Senate on Thursday. That's Brett Kavanaugh's response. The Senate Judiciary con tact at all the witnesses that I told you, I am Feinstein demanding grassly postponed the hearing. Of course, why did she hold it from because this is the you know, this is their plan. What she did in this particular case by withholding all of this is disgraceful because anybody that is being accused of something this serious needs an opportunity to be able to respond. I'm gonna tell you another thing. You know, this is why the presumption of of innocence is so important. This is why I've spent a lot of time on this program in the in the thirty years since I started in radio, learned a lot of lessons along the way. So I mentioned my I've been at odds with the news media and often usually proven right time after time. I learned that lesson in the Richard Jewel case that's back in. I learned that. You know, we learned a lot during the Obama years. I learned when Obama was running, nobody was gonna vet him. The only time he ever got asked, ever, the one time he got asked about Arizon Dorn, it was because I fed the question to George Stephanopolis. And then you have the issue of Trey von Martin, George Zimmerman and the media, and then President Obama's rushed to judgment, the rush to judgment as it relates to the Cambridge police, the rudged rushed to judgment in the Ferguson case, the rudged rushed to judgment in the Baltimore Freddie Gray case. Media has been wrong and others have been wrong repeatedly because they rushed to judgment and they don't give the presumption of innocence. So we're watching this all very very closely. But I will tell you anyone that says they know does not know. And you have to look at the entirety the dramatic, I mean, when you look at the dramatic, inconsistent, look at Brett Kavanaugh's life over four decades and the so many people who have spoken to his character he's a gentleman, etcetera, etcetera, you know, and then the double standard. There's a reason, you know, when I say that every two to four years they bring a racist, sex at, homophobic, xenophobic, misogynistic, uh islamophobic, dirty air water Republicans want, you know, killed children, throw granny over the cliff. You know what it's like to call somebody racist if they're not sexist, if they're not Mitt Romney had binders of women's resumes. He wanted to hire the women. You know, if somebody you know, accuses you of of this type of allegation, which is so serious and severe, they've got to have evidence something. There's a reason our system is designed the way it is, and yet this happens. It's a playbook. Sadly, That's why there is a reasonable skepticism of anybody based on a history of these tactics by Democrats. Anyway, eight nine one, Shawn to free telephone number when the President speaks. President apparently the president's about the sign of free trade agreement with South Korea. If he answers any other questions, we'll go to that. He's at the u N today speaking tomorrow. We have Greg and Sarah. We're gonna get finally to the Rod Rosenstein issue in a minute. And as we were all along Sean Hannity Show, eight one Shawn is our number. Mitch McConnell, the Senate majority leader, has waited. I want to make it perfectly clear. Brett Cavanaugh will receive a vote. Kavanaugh to crying the smears and his letter to the committee is not going to be intimidated into withdrawing. Both Brett Kavanaugh and his wife Will Pierre Martha McCallum show seven o'clock on the Fox News Channel tonight. We'll have a follow up to that, uh as well. And just a lot happening with all of this, A lot happening. I've read the New Yorker story many times now, all the quotes and excerpts from the New Yorker that raised serious questions about this second allegation. One other note, it appears that Judge Kavanaugh has his calendar from two he does never never listed a party as the one the accused of describes. By the way, you have to be a nerd to have your serious that is serious nerd. Um, I mean, man, I don't. I've never kept a diary of my life. I don't even keep diary. A calendar. You don't keep a calendar. I don't keep a calendar now, and I missed meetings because of it. As you're very good at that. Um. I just other people have to remind me, Oh, you got an interview in five minutes? Did you call on ten minutes? Forgot? I'm hall now. Um. By the way, Professor Ford also hired along with this liberal activist attorney, Andy McCabe's attorney. That's interesting. I know what the strategy is Washington Post. By the way, UM, well, I want to get into this right now. I want to hold that for a reason, Senate Democrats investing investigating the new allegation. You know what it is. Even in the New Yorker piece, they're admitting, they're actually admitting, like the Democrats are now calling people you know, Um, that's a really dangerous strategy. Oh maybe you have something to say about him. I know this has happened in my life at least thirty times. Media calls everyone that's ever worked for me randomly, all right, Sarah Gregg, Rod rosen Stein, and that drama when we get back, and if the President speaks, we'll take it. Coming up light now till the top of the hour. Toll free telephone numbers eight D nine one Shaw Shawn knows you want to join us. Uh. Two people that know Judge Kavanaugh will be joining us in a little bit. Uh. One actually has known him his entire life for the most part. Um. We had a meeting Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein meeting with Chief of Staff John Kelly on Friday afternoon after the blockbuster New York Times Bombshells story which had the Deputy Attorney General the one that also recommended the firing and James come and the guy that signed the last and final FISA warrant application as it relates to Carter Page, the renewal application. Anyway, after that meeting, Rosenstein put out another strongly worded statement denying the story and the two men. By the way, the subject of the meeting was all of that The two men also had discussions over the weekend in which the subject of Rod Rosenstein possibly resigning came up, according to a source familiar with the talks, and then there was a lot of drama had to be leaked by some in Rosenstein's camp. In my opinion, when he was he's going to the White House fully expected to be fired. I said Friday night, I think this is a trap for the president. In other words, if he fires Rod Rosenstein, they were gonna make this the Friday Night massacre. And I am very concerned at anybody that works for the Department of Justice. And I have been very critical of Rod Rosenstein in particular because he has been conflicted from the very beginning. He would be witnessed. Number one, as it relates to was this a case of obstruction when the President fired James Comey? By the way, Rod Rosenstein had recommended the firing, even though we all know Article two gives the president full and complete authority over the executive branch under which the Department of Justice falls. President, for example, could just demand a particular investigation. President can, if he chooses, demand something be stopped. President has not done any of these things at this particular point in time, he also appointed Robert Mueller, so there's a conflict there. Now Rod Rosenstein is claiming that, oh, I'll wear a blanking wire, wear a blanking wire. Is that we want me to do? You want me to want me to tap the president go into his office and then will invoke the amendment? It just these are you can't even these unparalleled times we're living in. He never should have been involved in any of this from the get go. Now the president also, we've been waiting on the release of the unredacted materials and the declassification of the Gang of Eight materials, the three oh two's, which are the notes, interviews and contemporaneous notes in particular Bruce Or and Chris to for Steel, and of course the pages ten through twelve and seventeen through thirty four, the infamous pages regarding the final FISA warrant application. Lindsey Graham this weekend, I've been saying the FBI and the d o J are waging a bureaucratic coup against Donald Trump, which I agree with. And UM anyway, joining us now with the latest on all of this, we have investigative reporter Sarah Carter, also a Fox News contributor, and we have Greg Jarrett, author of the number one New York Times bestseller of the Russia Hoax, Russian Hoax. Welcome both of you to the program. Uh, Sarah, let's start with all the drama that was going on today and what happened over the weekend, and what happened Friday, and what we expect is going to happen on Thursday, and the President meets with Rob Rosenstein. Well, everybody I've talked to, even on background and said, this is just such an extraordinary situation. We've never seen anything quite like this, you know, in modern political history, and today's events were you know, Sean, Uh, nonetheless the same. I mean, it was back and forth. Everybody was on the edge of their seat. Of course. Uh. There are a lot of people that believe as you do, as I do as well, that the lead came from the Department of Justice that Rosenstein was expecting to be fired, uh when he went into the White House today. And then of course I got a statement from Sarah Sanders later, like everyone else did, that the President and Rosenstein would be meeting on Thursday, UM to extend their conversation about the recent news stories. UM and you know, the president's right now at the UN General Assembly, so he's got you know, full schedule ahead of him for the day, so he's kind of putting everything aside until Thursday. What we do know is this is that there's been concerned from the very beginning about Rod Rosenstein his involvement in signing off on the third Application renewal, the fourth and final FISA of of Carter Page. He was also the same man who wrote the letter, actually a very well written letter about why James Comey failed at his job as the director, the former director of the FBI, and handed that over to the president, and that was part of the impetus of why the President decided to let go of James Comey. Although we know the President now has said, you know, I wish you would have done it on day one. I mean I think that if Hillary Clinton had been elected, she would have done it on day one. The Democrats were screaming mad at Comey about how he handled everything. A lot of them wanted him fired. Uh, it wasn't until the President actually did that that then they came back was like, oh, it's obstruction of justice. Well, how could it be obstruction if Rod Rosenstein himself is involved in it, and you're right, he's either the first witness and eyewitness or a co conspirator. I mean, the guy can't oversee the special counsel. I think on Thursday, and what I'm hearing from people, I mean, the president is obviously it's going to be up to the President to make his own determination and decision. From the people I've talked to, there's no doubt in a lot of people's minds that this was what Rod Rosenstein had said, that the New York Times are to goal was accurate, that he wasn't just joking around. Um. I think that it was very unexpected when the story dropped the next day, because remember it was Rob Rosenstein ran over to the White House in a panic basically that the President had declassified all those documents, and so not only did he go over there, but there was pressure from some other countries apparently to not let these documents go public and to turn him over to the Inspector General. And then the very next day, you know, the New York Times, which have been working on the story for two months, it finally gets out. And what it appears according to the sources that I've spoken with, is that McCabe knows he's going down. He's facing a grand jury, and now at this point in time, he's basically like, I'm not going down alone. I'm not going down the sinking ship by myself. I'm going to take the other rots with me. And he's lashing back. Let me go to Greg Jerick. Greg your take on all of us. But Rosenstein is a very minimum should be relieved of his job overseeing the Special Council case. UH Congress in the Inspector General should investigate these allegations that Rosenstein solicited people to secretly record the president and recruited cabinet members to depose Trump under the twenty five Amendment. So Rosenstein needs to be removed from the Special Council case. Should have happened a long time ago, because he has multiple conflicts of interests. As you point out, Sean, he's a fact witness in the case. Regulations say you cannot be a prosecutor and a witness all rolled into one. And of course he signed the FISA warrant to renew the spine on the Trump campaign associate Carter Page, so he cannot be in charge of an investigation involving his own underlying decisions. You know, there are serious questions as to why Rosenstein chose Bob Muller, who interviewed to be FBI Director of the day before he took the job as special counsel. Was the president uh not advised of this? He was not. Why didn't Rosenstein tell the president that? Why didn't Mueller tell the president that those are glaring conflicts of interest? And you know, in point of fact, under the law, there should never have been a special counsel. There has to be a conflict of interest. None was stated, Sessions had recused himself. Where's the conflict. Second of all, there has to be an identified crime. None was stated in the authorization order. And finally, a special counsel and the regulations is only permitted in criminal cases. This was never a criminal case. It was a counterintelligence probe. So there should never have been a special counsel. And this tells me that Rosenstein is part of this effort to frame Trump for things he didn't do. But that's what's now falling apart. That's what is you know, layer by layer, the onion has now been appealed here and what we now see is that the highest levels of our Department of Justice are FBI, and we know the names now struck in Page and McCabe and and Comey and a Justice Yates and or and and or being a conduit for Christopher Steele. At the bottom of it all is the Hillary bought and paid for dossier put together by a foreign national, Christopher Steele, and then literally disseminated and spread like total propaganda, unconfirmed, unverified, uncorroborated lies before the campaign and then used literally through a media leak strategy that we now know exists for the very purpose of helping to set up a special counsel that couple with James Comey's leak actions. And when Lisa Page says there was no evidence nine months into this of any Trump Russia collusion of any kind, it seems that it was all one big setup. Yeah, it was a hoax. And this is just more evidence of a cesspool of corruption of the Department of Justice and the FBI. These top officials, you just name many of them. They sought to sabotage the president with false claims, to drive him from office, to undo the election results. These are people who were sworn to uphold the law and yet Sean, they manipulated it for their own partisan purposes. That you know, there needs to be a serious and legitimate investigation by a real prosecutor with a presentment to a grand jury for consideration of criminal charges against the people that you just identified at the FBI and the Department of Justice. How does somebody, ever, even in a joking fashion, ever suggest that, well, do you want me to wear a wire and and mount an effort to invoke the twenty fifth Amendment. You just don't do that, Sean, You just that's not that's not the behavior. In fact, that's not his normal behavior of her. According to people that I've that I've spoken to, he's a pretty serious guy, Rod Rosenstein, but he also has a vicious temper that has been reported to me by by numerous people. Absolutely in a vicious temper. I mean, he would have to actually talk to the president. But we're also remember he's just one of others. He wasn't the only one. It wasn't just him, and you know, uh, Lisa Page and the others who were in that meeting. Apparently according to the Times, and we know this from the anonymous op ed at the Times published which I think they published based on the fact that they were already working on this story. There are other people in the administration that we're in cahoots with Rod Rosenstein. So as Greg, as Greg said, there needs to be a full fledged investigation. This is really literally an extension of what we're seeing as a silent coup or a white coup to overthrow, to remove a president, a duly elected president of the United it States. And this is why they've tried to corner President Trump saying, oh, well, even if you know this information to be true, even if it's proven true, you can't get rid of Rod Rosenstein because now all of a sudden, we're going to come at you tooth and nail and hold you accountable and say that this is obstruction. No, this is a president of the United States, and under Article too, he has every authority to remove someone who is a danger to his presidency if he so chooses, and for any reason. So there needs to be an investigation. Well, I I just I think the president and the New York Post pointed this out in an editorial today. Greg is in a terrible position because the media that has been pushing a phony, fake, false narrative for two years they would pounce on the legitimate firing of Rosenstein as a means of turning this into Friday night massacre, the equivalent of a Saturday night massacre and Watergate, because they've been using those and now these forever. But yet the guy clearly deserves to be fired. Now it is Jeff Sessions Department of Justice, and here we're back to the same old question. Where's Jeff? Why? Why is Jeff not involved? Why is it Jeff not interviewing Rod Rosenstein? Why is Jeff not This is his department. He would have the authority to fire the Deputy Attorney General. He absolutely would. He should exercise at minimum, And your instincts are right. This would be the Friday night massacre as opposed to the Saturday night massacre or whatever night it takes place. That's the media would howl with their hair on fire. And so the way to handle this, it seems to me, is for Sessions to ask Rosenstein to recuse himself temporarily pending UH an investigation by Congress or the Inspector General or both. Uh, You're not firing him, You're simply removing him pending results of an investigation. And I think that's the way to go. And there's there's plenty of reasons for that removal, recusal temporarily because of the multiple conflicts of interest that Rosenstein has and and given the New York Times story, and I you know, it does appear to be true. I don't believe for a moment he was being sarcastic in The New York Times stands by uh their sort. They adamantly stand up an interesting the New York Times. Of all people they held back, they said they reached out to dozens of people in the second allegation against Judge Cavanaugh. They couldn't find a single person in a week that would corroborate what this woman is saying from Yale. But stay right there. We'll continue more with Greg Jarrett and Sarah Carter. Albert barks America is a land of which women would be forced into back alley abortions. Blacks would said that segregated lunch countess rogue police could break down citizens, doores and midnight raids, and school children could not be taught about evolution right as an artist would be censured at the whim of government. Neil Borsach, who I did not support as a Supreme Court justice. He's joined two of the most conservative justices Clarence Thomas and Alito on the Court to take the position that the entire injunction should have been lifted. This is like the three horsemen of the Apocalypse, and they're waiting for the fourth one to come along. So it is vital that Judge Roberts answer a wide range of questions openly, honestly, and fully in the coming months. The burden is on a nominee to the Supreme Court to prove that he is worthy, not on the Senate to prove that he is unworthy. The most important reason I will oppose Judge Alito is that I have no confidence he will serve as a real check on the abuse of presidential power that we see so prevalent prevalent today in America. Debate on Friday, Elis was asked if he's confident there won't be any more allegations against him. Take a listen. You know, I don't know what somebody might cook up, but I can tell you that there is absolutely nobody that I'm aware of who's who has any sort of through who's threatening or suggesting or as who've ever made a prior accusation. He's running for Attorney General of Minnesota. Wouldn't the concern about Kavanaugh and Professor Ford be more credible if Democrats were also condemning similar charges against Democrats in their midst including Congressman Allison. I've been very clear that I made no excuses for anybody who engages in this kind of behavior, and as far as Keith Ellison, these allegations need to be investigated and appropriate action taken. Meanwhile, we have, within the next week or so, we have before us a nominee that is under a cloud. There's not even a modicum of investigation, and so we are left with basically he said. She said, all right, there's a lot to absorb in all of that news round up in Information Overload hour here on the Sean Hannity Show eight one, Shawn, if you want to be a part of the program, there's a couple of things. One, look, let's start with the first allegation by Professor Ford and every single witness that she cited to support her allegation that she was sexually assaulted by Brett Cavanaugh, they've now given their accounts to the Senate Judiciary Committee, all of them have contradicted Professor Ford's version of events. In an update released on Sunday, the Senate Judiciary Committee said it had been investigating Dr Ford's allegations against brit Cavanaugh for the past week, and they have now learned the identities of the four other individuals that Ford claim was at the party where the alleged abuse took place. Remember, now we finally got the copy late today. But this is only Diane Feinstein has held onto this now since July, and only today did they release the original letter that Professor Ford sent to Diane Feinstein. And Diane fine Stein had numerous opportunities when she met with Judge Kavanaugh alone, and of course during the Senate Judiciary Committee hearings never once raised this issue, not one time. Now the four individuals in the case of Professor Ford claimed that she claimed of attendant of the party we Judge Kavanaugh, uh Mark, Judge Patrick Smith, uh miss leland Ingram Kaiser, according to the Committee. Now, the committee rightly, in my opinion, they've got to do their due diligence. They've got to take allegations like this seriously. They have now had the opportunity to conduct a confidential interview with all of them and Mr Judge, Mr Smith, Ms. Kaiser all deny having knowledge of any party matching what Professor Ford described, which, of course bolsters Professor Kavanaugh's denials. Again, that's what thirty six seven years ago. And the committee noted that Dr Ford is the only first hand witness to provide a statement or to do the interview with the committee, and they're gonna, we expect that that's gonna happen on Thursday, and it's Sunday update. The Judiciary Committee said have tried to interview a fifth person, a former schoolmate of Fords, who was not at the party, but claimed on social media that the incident did happen, and that particular woman deleted her Facebook posts after the committee staff asked to speak with her, and she told National Public Radio that she really had no idea whether the alleged incident had happened. So they're doing everything right and responsible and have offered Professor Ford every consideration. Now we go to late last night and Joan Mayord, and we'll get into her history with Clarence Thomas in in a few minutes. But if you read this article closely, and Rowan Rowan wasn't it. Ronan Pharaoh is the guy, by the way, to his credit, that broke the Weinstein story. But the New Yorker, they too, had never confirmed with any eyewitness that Kavanaugh was president at the party. She says in the interview that they've had for The New York that her memories contained gaps because she had been drinking at the time of the alleged incident. It wasn't until she had been you know, literally, it took six days for Ramiras that she said she felt confident enough that of her recollections to say that she does finally remember Kavanaugh had exposed himself at a drunken dormitory party. She acknowledges she quickly became inebriated at that party, that she was on the floor, foggy, slurring her words. These are her own words here, not mine. Ramiros acknowledged that there were significant gap gaps in her memories of the evening the alleged I witnesses to it deny it. The first one said, quote one of the male classmates who Ramirez said egged on Kavanaugh denied any memory of the party. I don't think Brett would flash himself to Debbie or anyone else for that matter. The second alleged eye witness said the other male classmates Ramiro said was involved in the incident said, I have zero recollection of anything like this. Our college best friend has said. This is a woman that I was best friends with. We shared intimate details of our lives, and I was never told the story by her or by anyone else. That never came up. I didn't see it. I never heard it happening. And even the New York Times, after a week of investigations, they couldn't run with the story because they couldn't get a single person to corroborate it anyway. Um and Kavanaugh now denies it all right, as we continue our top story today, and of course all the drama with Rod Rosenstein earlier carries Severino's with US Chief Council Policy Director Judicial Crisis Network meganum Caleb is also with us. She went to high school with Brett Cavanaugh. They remained very good friends to this day. And thank you both for being with us. I appreciate you being here. Let me go to you, Megan, you know you and about at least a hundred other people have gone on the record and just said, this is not the person we knew then in high school or college, or law school, or anyone that's work with him, and any professional capacity at the Bush administration female law clerks that he's had that actually the contradiction is is dramatic, that he was the total gentleman. What do you make all of this? No, I it is so frustrating. I really don't even know what to make of it. I mean, I have to tell you, of all those guys, and I knew all of them when we all hung out a lot, he was the most responsible one of the bunch. I can just tell you that. And it's it's so frustrating to me that this is coming out and that everyone she said that was at the party all said that it didn't happen, or they weren't there, or they don't remember. And I just don't don't understand how it keeps. It's still it's still in the news constantly until let's just wait until Thursday and let him respond. Also, I'd like to add, how can we haven't heard anything for any character witnesses of Chrissie blasi Fort from high school, none of her guy friends, none of her girlfriends. We've heard nothing, and I think speaks volumes as well. You know, the people, and this is the thing. I mean, there's such a long intervening period of time here and you get to look at one's the entirety of one's life. I'll be listen, Megan, I'll be very honest with you. I I have no idea. Now, I went to an all boys high school. But maybe there's like three people that would say something nice about me. I don't know. I I just you know, at that point in my life, I was an incorrigible, rebellious jerk, and I just I but for everyone to say this is the nicest guy, the most responsible guy, and everybody's consistent with that, that raises a lot of questions your thoughts carry. I absolutely agree, and I think that's part of the reason we're seeing these even these new, even less well robinted, more discredited allegations coming out because the Democrats could see that this story about Dr Ford was becoming less and less plausible by the day. Every day it was a new person. We found another person who has claiming at the party. He said he nothing happened, she said nothing happened. And then you know, Judge Kavanaugh actually has contemporaneous calendar, So they went back and looked and said, Okay, what was he even doing that summer. Yeah, it's very difficult, of course, because her allegations are so vague, because you can't say, you know, it happened on July fourth weekend. We don't know when she was during the summer, but he was gone much of that summer. He has other parties listed on there nothing that correlates to the party, the type party, in the location with the people that she describes. So it's just one more nail in the coffin to what was already an increasingly implausible claim. So now I think then they're just taking it to a new level of more outrageous, um, more ridiculous claims. And this, this most recent one, I think takes the cake because it is you know, she even originally talked to The New Yorker and said at the time she wasn't sure it was him. It took her six days in consultation with her lawyer, who who is a active Democrat, provided I the Democrats who were trying to gin up some story to get to the point where she could be convinced to say yes, maybe I do. I do think it was him. I mean that this is not the hallmarks of a trustworthy witness, especially when you add in that again, everyone she said was at this event, denies that it happened, denies that Judge Kavanaugh had anything to do with it. So, um, this is, you know, a real, real character smear, and it's just looking uglier and uglier. I think a lot of people on the right are just getting absolutely set up seeing these the way that our our whole judicial system, our Senate confirmation system, is getting dragged into the mud here because this is this is a horribly disrespectful way to treat a nominee, and the senators aren't even respecting a job. At Senator Rono as if you played her clips, she said, I wish they'd do some investigating. The Senate Judiciary, to me, has literally been doing investigations all week. They're supposed to be bipartisan, but the Senate Democrats are too busy getting in front of camera's demanding an investigation to actually do an investigation. They had the Opera Treaty to ask having off questions and to submit questions to all of these witnesses who have now submitted testimony that under penalty of felony, they swear is correct. Um. The Democrats are just too busy show voting to actually do the investigation they're asking for it. That's shameful. The fact that this was held since July. This is the one of the reasons I think people have to be skeptical. And and also the history of what they did to Robert Borke and the lies and the smearing and the slander of Ted Kennedy and others back at the time, and and this last minute it's out of the same playbook. I keep telling people that every four years, every two years election years, Republicans a racist, sexiss homophobic, xenophobecause, homophobic misogynists. They want dirty air water, they want to kill children, and they want to throw granny over the cliff. And we got Paul Ryan look alike in an ad throwing Grandma over the cliff. And it's the same thing with Supreme Court nominations. It is last minute, Oh my god, oh my god, these allegations, and then they begin to do the investigating and there's no corroboration here. And then there's an entire other story that has emerged right as we continue carry Severino. She is the chief Council Policy Director Judicial Crisis Network. Megam Caleb is with us. She went to high school with Brett Kavanaugh. Um, you know most kids in high school, I mean, this is kind of my generation, and I guess my life was a little bit of an anomaly. I was the youngest of four kids, and at twelve years of age, I was washing dishes in a restaurant every Friday, Saturday, Sunday and not coming home till three in the morning, four in the morning. And I was tending bar in my junior and senior year some nights. I'd even do it during the week and then come home. But it seems like, you know, we've that this guy was very different in every respect. He was just very responsible and treated everybody with respect. And that's why these allegations just seemed so out of left field. I mean, let me tell you, there are a lot of people that I knew in high school that were pretty wild and crazy that I would not be standing and Brett is definitely worth standing up for. You know, It's interesting to say I was a little incorrigible, but I actually was working. I I was obsessed with working as a kid, so I didn't really have the time to be incorrigible. Although I don't think it's the best environment to be a bartender at seventeen. Personally, if my own kids wanted to do it, the ends, who would be hell no, uh, you're not following in your dad's footsteps. But I think more importantly carry I think this topic. I think the Republicans actually have handled this in the right manner. They have taken it seriously. They have sought in all the witnesses that that could have been around at the time that would know anything. They've talked to everybody. I think they've been very accommodating to Professor Ford and offering that she could do this in person, she could do it under oath, she could do it um publicly, privately, they'll come to her, and all those other things about that, Absolutely it's exceptional. I mean, when you look at how Senator Grassley has treated her versus Senator Feinstein Satinstein, it neither said this is incredible and and and stuck it in a final roar or said this could play out really well in September. Maybe we'll just put it on hold until then. Treating her like a political chit and not actually like a real human being. So it's it's on the contrary, Chairman Grassley within twenty four hours of hearing the allegations and hearing her in her in her lawyer was it was very ending at the time, we want to have a hearing, and the Democrats were saying we need a public hearing. So he he did exactly what they said. He put it on the calendar and the committee let me, let me pick this up on the other side, we have another quick break here, we'll come back. I'm gonna hold you guys a few minutes over until the final half hour of the program today. Carry Severino and Megan mcleb I believe Megan's on Hannity tonight and Carry two as well nine instn on the Fox News channel. They're supposed to be an interview. Will will be covering that with the Kavanaughs, both Brett cavan and his wife. That's on Hannity nine Eastern on Fox. Quick break right back, and your calls coming up in the next half hour straight ahead until the top of the hour. We're gonna get to your calls in just a minute. Where he carried over Carrie Saravino, who is the Chief Council Policy Director Judicial Crisis Network. Megan mcayleb went to high school with Brett Kavanaugh. They remain good friends. Um, did you remain friends with him throughout high school, college, law school, into adulthood when he worked for the Bush administration through his time now being a judge? I think what eleven years now, I did? I We were friends through high school and through college, and then he moved away clerk, you know, was in California, and but we always remained friends. Tell us about how this is impacting his family. I remember, sadly his daughters during the confirmation and before the Senate Judiciary Committee or the hearings that they had, that his daughters had to be escorted out of the room with all the antics that were going on there, and of course Democrats turning it into a circus. But more than that, the people in the gallery were just atrocious, and they took those poor little girls out of the room. I felt bad for them. How are they holding up? You know, I think it's been really really hard for the family. You know, the kids are young, but you you know, I'm sure they care. Stories and and Brett Nashley have had to talk to them about it, and that's that's a hard thing to do for your fifth grader and your seventh grader. And it's also been difficult for their friends. You know, a lot of their guy friends. The schools have been ripped apart, their characters and ripped apart. It's been really difficult, and I just don't think the Senudiciary Committee took that into consideration in any way. And for Dr four too, I know it's torn her party family apart. But you also you also knew people that dated him. I did in high school and in college. Yeah, I did, And he always was a really decent, honorable guy always, I mean never ever did I ever hear anything like us. What did you make of his statement today defined I will not be intimidated. I was really pleased to see that, because it can. I'm sure it does get very frustrating when it starts affecting your family and your young dollarvers and and you know, you get death direction and all that sort of thing. But he you know, I believe in him, and he believes him health and does they are not true and he is being stared speared, and I I'm so happy that he will not be intimidated from this process because it's too important. What does this go from here, Kerry, I mean, now you've got I guess that guy Avnada who represents Stormy Daniels saying I've got people too. Oh my goodness. I mean, well, look, he's another candidate trying to get some of the piece of the action here. Um. But his look, if his allegations are credible, he'll bring some evidence to the Judiciary Committee. But he has certainly not done so yet despite the fact that they've reached out, maybe even raised out to him. We're making, you know, crazy allegations via tweet, so they're they're really trying to do their due diligence. Um. But I think we're gonna have the hearing on Thursday. UM. I'm looking for hopefully, you know, hopefully she shows my understanding if she hasn't even finally fully agreed to it, because she's making so many unreasonable demands of the committee. Um. But I hope we'll get a chance to hear this. I know Judge Kapana was looking forward to clearing his name because you know, to to go back to last exchange. I think this is what they're trying to do is a pattern of intimidation and bullying. They want people to say, you know what, I would love to serve my country, but I don't want to be have a character assassination go on. All of these people, none of them are believers in the presumption of innocence. It's actually shocking to me. I mean, Mia Pharaoh, the mom of Ronan, whatever his name is, the guy that broke the story Ronan Pharaoh. UM actually tweeted out, Oh, Clarence Thomas says he should resign. I mean, this is how far they want to go back to one now. It's um. It's becoming a crazy environment guilt by accusation and the fact that so few people, even United States senators, don't believe in a process. The people that are being judicious here are conservatives and even the Republicans. They're saying, let's listen to what she has to say. UM. Anyway, yeah, and by the way that they and the same people that are so outraged here, they don't show any out age over Keith Ellison, none whatsoever, never said a word about and only when they got pressed now after the fact, long after the fact. Oh yeah, yeah, maybe we should investigate him too. That was their answer. Um, I really appreciate you both being with us, Uh, Megan mikaeleb thank you. Carrie Severino, thank you. We'll have all of this tonight and a breakdown. I promise you won't get anywhere else in the media. Uh. Let's get to our busy telephones here in the meantime, as we check in with Richard Is in Kansas, Richard High, how are you glad you called um fine? I was deplorable. I just was recently promoted to drag um. By the way, what that means, for those that don't know, is that's Joe Biden uh saying that Trump's supporters of the dregs of society. Yeah, and I'm one of the people, millions of people. One of the reasons that I and millions of other people voted so the president was based on what he said about Supreme Court nominees. And if this thing goes belly up, because Grassley and the rest of them can't grow a spine, I quite frankly don't see why I should bother voting period. I really believe that have Republicans Again, if if the facts as they are known today, remain the same, and they don't confirm Judge Kavanaugh. Again, all the people named in the case, the Senate Judiciary Committee has contacted, all the quote witnesses cited by Professor Ford. They've all contradicted her story, all of them. None of them agree with her account of events. Then all the other issues that I brought up with the New Yorker, this this other last minute issue that's brought up, And I'm just guessing now based on Avanati wanting to be in the news every five seconds, it will be another one before Thursday, just to keep the momentum and create the impression. Listen, if Kavanaugh is not going to be intimidated by this, and his family is standing by him, and facts don't change and Republicans don't back him, that at that point I think that it is uh problematic for the mid terms for the Republicans. I don't think they'll be able to get anybody to go out for them. What's the point? At that point, I think there's only one way to stop this. It would require a rule change in the future. If somebody makes it what would be a tortious or criminal accusation, it should immediately be removed. From the committee and put in front of a judge in a court with all of the rules of evidence and cross examination UH in place. That's the only thing that will stop this business about uncooperated last minute allegations. I appreciate the call, Richard. Thank you. Aaron is in Raleigh in North Carolina on the Sean Hannity Show. Aaron, how are you were? Glad you called? I'm great. Thanks. How are you, Sean? I'm good, Thank you good. I'm calling. And I have a comment about the information that Dr Ford brought forth in her letter. I just found it um interesting that she the discrepancy that she um couldn't remember where she was the evening of the alleged incident, how she got there, how she got home, but she was quick to name the Montgomery County or the county of Montgomery County in her letter. And I just thought that was interesting. Got me thinking, I'm from that area. I grew up in that area. I graduated in nine and I lived in the same town as she did. And I know that the parties that those that we had our kids had back then could happen in Maryland, but could also happen in Washington, d C. Or Northern Virginia. Those private schools draw kids from all around the DC metropolitan area, so it's funny that she mentions, you know, Montgomery County specifically, although not any clue were in Montgomery County. And um, I looked into a little bit and saw the Statute of Limitations does not expire in Montgomery County, Maryland. However, if she wasn't d C or Northern Virginia, they would have expired. So I'm wondering if she's trying to hold herself to be able to turn this if something goes criminal with it, she has some sort of case to hold onto. Yeah, listen, I tend to agree with you. Um, I don't know. I think it's very problematic that all four people, and again we've been trying to be fair as we can be here. The Senate Judiciary Committee talked to all the quote people that were at this party cited by Professor Ford. They all contradicted her account. And I know that I don't even it's very very hard to understand how everybody else sees it a different way, and and the passion by which everybody from high school to today thirty six years universally says this guy is not that guy. That's nearly four decades of one's life, that person after person after person is discussing here, and then the people at the time saying that wasn't him. Then either all of this needs to be taken into account by the Senate Judiciary Committee and by the Senate. And it's gonna be very interesting, you know, for all these Democrats to rush to judgment, for all these people, to deny due process, for all these people to say I believe her, for all these people then to say, Ooh, I just can't vote for him based on this, but there's no corroboration of any kind going back thirties, six seven years, whatever it is. I think it then becomes problematic for the Democrats and who they are. And the reason for skepticism more than any other is their history of Borking, the slander of Robert Bork, the treatment of Clarence Thomas, et cetera. Anyway, Aaron, thank you, Hannah. Next Tennessee, how's our friend Marcia Blackburn doing down there? We really need that seat badly. And uh, I hope everyone goes out in Tennessee to vote for Marcia. Well, I hope so too. They're going to have a they're going to have a debate to our evening on the local news on CBS. Okay, I don't know who's monitoring the debate, but they'll have one. Brettison is a former governor and he served very well, I think, and he's very credible when he talks. But he's old, and there are there are rumors that Chuck Schumer talked to him into running, so who knows. I wouldn't vote for him. I'll vote for Marcia Bickburne. But it's going to be here's what the people. Here's the one thing I'd say to the people of Tennessee. And I love Tennessee. I got my radio career start on ninety miles south of Nashville in Athens, Alabama, Huntsville, Alabama. Who is Marcia blackburn going to be voting with on most occasions? It's and who is her Democratic former governor going to be voting with? On most occasions? He's going to be with the Democrats. And yes he would be. He's a Democrat, so he would be voting for them. However, I think he was a decent governor. Or. I had just moved to Tennessee, from Michigan at that time, so I'm really not that familiar, but I've never heard a lot of grumbling grumbling about him. But I have two points to make today. First of all, I'm so happy the second accuser has come forth because she is so far out that it kind of accaps the credibility from anything that has happened, and it kind of shows it up for what it is. It's part of a smear campaign, and I think it's it's easier to understand that with seeing her lack of credibility that's even worse than forwards. The second thing is that these sanctimonious members of Congress who are having so much to say about Kavanagh on simply an allegation, are the same people that have a slush fund in Congress to cover their sex, their sexual allegations, to keep them from being exposed. And I think since that's a fund that's paid by the taxpayers, the taxpayers have a right to know who has been ead off. I think you're making a great point, and I'm gonna tell you what your great point is. And there's some fourteen million dollars that we hear that has been spent to make to have these settlement agreements with people, Hannah, and if they want to make settlements. And by the way, I know companies sometimes make settlements that nobody was even guilty, but that it's more cost effective not to I understand the whole process behind it, and it's just by the time they finished litigating and and the smearing and the reputation and going on defense anyway. So people make decisions for all sorts of reasons. But if you want to make that decision and you want to get involved in in paying somebody that needs to come out of your pocket, not our pocket, I agree with you. And if we paid for it, we have a right to know who got paid and why. I agree with you. If they had to be exposed to the public. A lot of them are running amounts so strongly today would have less to say complaming someone else. Listen. I I think you raised a good point. I think we need that information. I'd rather have it sooner rather than later. Uh. And I think there's probably a lot of nervous congressmen and women and senators out there that, um, honestly, I just agree with you. I think if if you're gonna ask the taxpayers to pay off your settlements. Sorry, we have a right to know and that's a uh, Hannah, I thank you for the call. Eight nine one, Shawn, I have a minute left. Uh, let's go to Jared is in Boulder City, Nevada. What's going on? Jared? We were there in Vegas last week? What's going on? Real quick? Hey? Did you? Did you have as much fun as we did? It was really good to see you there. I had a great time. We had the best time. The only problem was the day after I had to work all day and I didn't I didn't get home till late. I got home. As a matter of fact, the sun was up when I landed. Well, we love you here in Las Vegas, sewn, and we really appreciate you coming to visit. It was a great mind, a great pleasure which on your mind. You got thirty seconds really quick with uh. With regards account and on and how the Democrats are acting, playing these dirty games. I really got to ask the democrats, the modern democrats out there, is this really how they want their elected representatives acting? Because I think we should hold them to a higher standard than the way they're acting right now. I think we've got two as well. I think we gotta hold everybody to a higher standards. These are very trying, difficult times. Anyway, good call, Appreciate it all right, Hannity Tonight, nine Eastern on the Fox News Channel, the latest on the Judge Kavanaugh issue involving a second accuser, but that story seems to be falling apart based on the accuser's own words. We'll get to details the mainstream media ignores, also the presidents at the u N. 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